Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire/Archive 8

Immigration into Leeds
An IP has commented at Talk:History of Leeds on the fact that immigration isn't mentioned, and with the rich culture of carnival, synagogues, Irish club, etc it does seem surprising that we don't seem to have anything about the centuries of immigration into Leeds. There are plenty of WP:RS though perhaps mostly print rather than online: looking at the Thoresby Society Index under "I" for Irish showed another publication about Italians in Leeds, just as a sample. I'm away from my Leeds bookshelf at the moment but I'm sure there's scope to add a section, or a new article, or a historical expansion to Demography of Leeds. (If, on the other hand, this information is already in the encyclopedia, then it needs more links to make it visible - nothing in the "Leeds" template suggests where to find it, and History of Leeds could use a short section with a main link.) Pam  D  09:20, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Couple of pages from Fraser's History of Modern Leeds for a start. Pam  D  09:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


 * @PamD: Leeds Museums had a placement person who created a draft of something similar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Leeds_Immigration - their placement has stopped now, and I've not a had a chance to do anything with the draft, but if anyone wanted to use & change it that would fine!

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
Hi. The The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:WPSCHOOLS
You are invited to join the discussion at WT:WPSCHOOLS. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:58, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Monthly collaboration suggestion: Lendal Tower
I created the article on Lendal Tower about a year ago and think it has the potential to become a higher quality article than it is now (start-class). The sources I’ve already referenced contain a lot more information and if other editors read these they'll probably find things worth adding that I’ve missed (particularly to do with the architecture as I'm not great with the terminology and technical stuff), also they may be able to make improvements relating to grammar and Manual of Style guidelines. EdwardUK (talk) 00:49, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion, I will use for May as I have already got the April ones selected. Though there does not appear to be much activity on some of the selected articles, may be the members are not active or are doing other things. Keith D (talk) 14:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Notable People (Richmond, North Yorkshire)
Hi there, coming out of retirement trying to tackle this article as it's my hometown, going to make an attempt to bring it up to at least a "C" class using the WP:UKGEO settlement guidelines, so I may ask for help on more than one occasion. Firstly, the list of notable people seems quite messy and exhaustive here when compared to somewhere larger like Northallerton? I'm not sure where the guidelines sit really, if they have a Wikipedia article of their own, do they warrant making it onto a list of people from the town, or do we select the most notable few? Your help and guidance would be much appreciated, take care all. Cacolantern 07:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ; given the size of the notable people, have you considered spinning it off into a separate list like List of people from Middlesbrough? If they are retained, then I would expect all to be cited as having that connection to Richmond. At least all have blue links, so their inclusion is warranted, but a list like this can be quite bloated. The crux, as you say, is who to include, as which is more notable, a rugby player over a headmaster? Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 08:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added several ODNB cites. The joy of all things (talk) 09:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help, I may just do that, I think that's a sensible option, will probably get round to it after some other sections, thank you as well for the cites. Cacolantern 09:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries; as it happens I have a couple of Richmond-style articles in the works, and I spent a good deal of last week improving Richmond Racecourse. The joy of all things (talk) 09:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I would probably get the list in to shape here first and then spin off as one of the last operations on the page. There needs to be work on the ODNB references several have the link on the accessdate and several have no date information whatsoever. The last one also appears to be a dead DOI link. Keith D (talk) 13:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , - half way there! I have sorted the Born in Richmond section, will look at the next section tomorrow. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 20:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Can you add the dates while you are doing this, needs the publication (modified) date and probably accessdate. Keith D (talk) 21:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The date and accessdate are no longer parameters of the Template:Cite ODNB. I did ask the custodian/admin/template guru who had effected the changes back in 2019 (I think), and their response as to why the url/date/accessdate parameters are not required is here. The joy of all things (talk) 05:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The template has all the parameters of cite encyclopedia. There is nothing in the link to say that date is not required. I would say the date is required as the ODNB gets updated periodically and so may not support the text any more. Keith D (talk) 10:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , okay, I have inputted all the dates into the cites that I appended yesterday. If accessdates are needed, then you will need to confirm this, please. I am going to take a look at the previous cites that have some dead doi links and update. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 11:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Right, I think I have sorted it (dates and everything). There are a couple (like Hounsfield) who I cannot find reliable sources for, though. The joy of all things (talk) 14:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the work on this one. Keith D (talk) 17:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Richmond, North Yorkshire Review
Hello again! I think I've got as far as I'm going to get in the meantime with the Richmond article, the history section has barely been touched by myself as I'm struggling to find any 20th century events, but if anyone else fancies a go then of course, go ahead! Notable people looks great, but I didn't want to do anything drastic like split it until we had a clear consensus! I'd appreciate an independent mind to review and re-classify the article now if that's okay? Hpefully it's climed out of "start" class. I will continue working on it when I gather more notable information and reliable sources.

Many thanks for the help. Cacolantern 16:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It's comfortably a lot better than 'start' class! After mentioning the castle as a tourist attraction, it might be worth quantifying it by saying it brings c. 40,000 visitors to the town every year. For 20th century history, the Richmond Sixteen surely need a mention along with the castle's use as a prison. This podcast episode on the topic is worth a listen. Richard Nevell (talk) 17:49, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Leeds Town Hall
Hi Yorkshire folks

It would be appreciated if anyone with spare time could cast their eye over at Peer review/Leeds Town Hall/archive1, where a PR is underway which will hopefully lead the way towards a successful FAC for Leeds Town Hall. Thanks,  Rcsprinter123  (converse)  23:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Dewsbury
Can members of WikiProject Yorkshire review the Dewsbury article and determine if they are happy with the state/change to criteria of the article in the Notable people section from people born in Dewsbury by. I am happy to go with consensus but am likely not prepared to remain watching the page for vandalism if I am simply going to get edit-warred out of it and somebody else can do that. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Bolton Abbey
I've never understood Bolton Abbey.

I only found out earlier this year/late last year that the ruins of the church was called Bolton Priory.

And today when visiting the page to find out what the post town of Bolton Abbey was (the answer is Skipton by the way), I noticed there was a separate stub article for Bolton Abbey (village).

Apparently Bolton Abbey (village) is smaller than Bolton Abbey the estate, but there doesn't seem to be anything explaining what the boundaries of either of them are, or any maps showing the boundaries of each.

Can Bolton Abbey be renamed to Bolton Abbey Estate?

And can some info and maps be added to each article explaining the boundaries?

Danstarr69 (talk) 11:01, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Breighton Aerodrome
Courtesy note

I've G6'd Breighton Aerodrome so i can move RAF Breighton there since the RAF airfield has long been closed and the aerodrome is active. Gavbadger (talk) 17:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have deleted for you. Keith D (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Weekly clean-up listing
Hello all; the Tuesday run of the cleanupworklistbot has generated an extra 62 articles this week with the tags of Harv and SFN no-target errors. I did see this sometime last year when a test was run to see what it was like and it threw up lots of issues. I think the problem lies when either some has written a cite starting with and then not had a link in the ref section (such as at West Tanfield, where it displays the Patent Rolls with an SFN citation, but nothing in the sources or bibliography), or, when a source has more than one author and needs it ref parameter changed from |ref=harv}} to show |ref=  }}.

Is this correct, or am I just muddying the waters. Thanks and regards. PS - 26% of the articles linked to Yorkshire have some sort of problem that needs attention, if we muck in, we can sort a lot of them! Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 18:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably the second one of multiple authors may be because the author parameter is set out wrong and not using last and last2. Another problem could be the year in the short form & long form do not match each other.
 * I saw somewhere that it was to be included in the report from this week so I expected them to show up. Keith D (talk) 20:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Women's football/soccer season articles nominated for deletion
Three season articles for Doncaster Rovers Belles L.F.C. have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to join the discussion at: Articles for deletion/2013 Doncaster Rovers Belles L.F.C. season. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 11:00, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Yorke Arms
Apparently the Yorke Arms is no longer a restaurant but a country house for hire. Does it still merit an article? Langcliffe (talk) 14:17, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

To-do list for new articles?
Hi,

I've recently got back into contributing to Wikipedia and I'm looking to help out with Sheffield-related articles as that's where my knowledge is.

Is there a to-do list of Sheffield/Yorkshire pages to be created? I was going to ask on the WikiProject Sheffield Talk page but that doesn't seem to be used any more (last post was 9 years ago!). I've been tidying up a few Sheffield articles up to now but keen to have my own 'project' as well :)

Thanks!

Palmeras2 (talk) 14:50, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not specifically Sheffield but there are some in WP:WikiProject Yorkshire/to_do in the "Article requests" list. Depends on members adding them then they think an article is needed or they see a red-link in an article. Keith D (talk) 23:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, thanks! Palmeras2 (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Eyes on requested
For the last few weeks I have been trying to assist a determined Paid CoI who registered two days before a net 5,300 byte change (with a sizeable deletion of sourced prose) to an article based on a business, Manor Property Group.

At my request, a CoI declaration was made, confirming that the business had contracted Chelgate Local, a subsidiary of Chelgate to "to ensure the factual accuracy of its Wikipedia entry", "review the current entry, fact check and correct any factual errors", and "to add new content to create a comprehensive entry and include more up to date information on the organisation and its projects."

After considerable Talk discussion, this new editor has submitted a revised proposed change at Talk:Manor Property Group under two new subheadings. As I am the only contributor to Talk, I am requesting comments to form a consensus, and also to avoid any suggestions of WP:OWNership on my part. Until seeing this CoI contribution, I had only edited a caption, and this is my first experience of a paid contributor.

One aspect includes the development of a free App for Android and iOS; I have no experience of such software hence unable to conclude if this constitutes WP:SPAM.

Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Whitesnake
Hello, the Whitesnake article was tagged for the project some time ago and has recently been nominated for good article status. The article at one stage had references to Middlesbrough but there are no references to Yorkshire any more. Is there something missing from the article, as it now stands, or was the previous mentions of Middlesbrough incorrect? Anyone got any insight on this? Keith D (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * David Coverdale was/is from Saltburn and did early gigs on Teesside. That's it. It's as pointless as stating that Queen are from Zanzibar because Freddie Mercury was born and brought up there. I would expect the article on David Coverdale to be tagged for Yorkshire, but not the one about Whitesnake, who formed in London. Another example; three of the current members of Marillion are from Yorkshire: the Boro, Whitby and Donny, but they formed in Aylesbury, so again, I would not expect the Marillion article to have a Yorkshire tag. Obviously that's my opinion and it's not rooted in policy (I don't think it is at any rate). Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 21:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for delay, I have just got round to removing from project. Keith D (talk) 22:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That's okay, we are all busy. Would have done it myself, but I feared that I am too involved. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 05:43, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

South Bank, Redcar and Cleveland
There is a discussion on recent changes to the South Bank, Redcar and Cleveland article and related articles taking place at WikiProject UK geography. Please discuss there. Keith D (talk) 21:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Yorkshire Tiger
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Yorkshire Tiger that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:16, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Peter Longbottom
I’ve expanded the article for Peter Longbottom, the international cyclist born in Huddersfield and who died in a road accident while cycling on the A64 near York in 1998. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Wigglesworth
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wigglesworth that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 01:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Location maps
Please can somebody create location maps for Yorkshire and the historic ridings. I don’t know we’re to start never mind getting one to be in a module page, ready to be added to an article.

I think is the one I’ve seen as the creator for Cumberland and Westmorland maps. If You’re busy would you mind, I know they must take a lot of work. If not is there anybody else able to.

Sport is the main reason I’m asking. Chocolateediter (talk) 18:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I don't have the time to do this in the near future. Maybe some time next year. --  Dr Greg  talk 18:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Alright, Yorkshire is quite large so it is quite a job to take on. The time it must take to put these maps together. Chocolateediter (talk) 19:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. Chocolateediter (talk) 19:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

HS2 and Woodlesford, anyone?
If you are interested in HS2 plans in West Yorkshire please see Talk:Woodlesford railway station. Thanks. Pam D  07:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Newsletter suggestion
I think the newsletter is helpful and a good reminder to keep up to date with things, but I find it can notably increase the size of my talk page. Instead of having just the Yes/No choice on it being delivered could there be an option to have the delivery of just a short message to announce when there is a new issue and with a link to the copy of it on the wikiproject. EdwardUK (talk) 22:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I will try a short message with link to full news letter and see how it goes. Keith D (talk) 00:24, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I received the message and it was about a tenth of the size of the full version. Great work on coming up with a solution so quickly, if I'd kept my talk page a bit more organised I may have thought to ask about it a bit earlier. I've had a go of trying to create a version of the message that has been simplified down a little further:


 * As my understanding of how to put this together was mostly by trial and error there may be areas that could be improved on either technically or in terms of the appearance. It contains all the information from the original message (once the MediaWiki delivery notice has been added to the end) but I removed the top section to make it non-collapsible as I think this would no longer be necessary. As with the original message it is only the issue number and date that would need to be updated. EdwardUK (talk) 18:22, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for suggestions. I will adjust for next month and may be put a note in the newsletter to advertise it, in case others want to receive this rather than the full version. Keith D (talk) 23:24, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Mill town
There's a large unsourced ill-defined list of English mill towns in this article - members of this project might like to join a discussion at Talk:Mill town. Pam D  15:54, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Stretching boundaries
Howley Hall is in Morley, the editor who wrote it doesn't want to put it Morley in the article, "between Batley and Morley", ok sort of, but he wants it in the Batley article. I had removed it but apparently it belongs there. I also removed Joseph Priestley from Batley, twice, as he was born in Birstall but the same editor has removed the notice that said only people born in Batley should be added and re-added JP as he went to school there. I always assumed Wikipedia uses modern boundaries? Is Batley so devoid of history that the article needs to adopt people and places from the surrounding area? Any opinions from editors who do not profess to be from Batley? Esemgee (talk) 20:55, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Parishes project
I have started a project for missing civil parishes at User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes. The missing parishes in North Yorkshire are:


 * Aiskew and Leeming Bar
 * Bishop Thornton, Shaw Mills and Warsill
 * Brafferton and Helperby
 * Coneythorpe and Clareton
 * Ebberston and Yedingham
 * Givendale
 * Great Ribston with Walshford
 * Habton
 * Henderskelfe
 * Huddleston with Newthorpe
 * Ilton-cum-Pott
 * Kirby Hall, North Yorkshire
 * Kirkby Wharfe with North Milford
 * Lands common to Fylingdales and Hawsker-cum-Stainsacre
 * Lead, North Yorkshire
 * Lillings Ambo
 * Lindrick with Studley Royal and Fountains
 * Luttons
 * Marishes
 * Marton cum Grafton
 * Nesfield with Langbar
 * Newton Kyme cum Toulston
 * Old Byland and Scawton
 * Rosedale East Side
 * Rosedale West Side
 * Saxton with Scarthingwell
 * Skelding
 * Steeton, North Yorkshire draft existed at Draft:Steeton, North Yorkshire
 * Strensall with Towthorpe
 * Stutton with Hazlewood
 * Thornton Bridge
 * Thornville, North Yorkshire
 * Walkingham Hill with Occaney
 * Wharram, North Yorkshire, now at Wharram
 * Wilstrop, draft existed at Draft:Wilstrop

And these exists as a redirect only but should have separate articles: A total of 60, see User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes (3).
 * Castle Bolton with East and West Bolton
 * Clint cum Hamlets
 * Cundall with Leckby
 * Danby Wiske with Lazenby
 * Darley and Menwith
 * Ellington High and Low
 * Farndale East
 * Farndale West
 * Flasby with Winterburn
 * Glusburn and Cross Hills
 * Great and Little Broughton
 * Great Timble
 * Heslerton
 * Hetton-cum-Bordley
 * High and Low Bishopside, draft exists at Draft:High and Low Bishopside, North Yorkshire
 * Kilburn High and Low
 * Little Timble
 * Pannal and Burn Bridge
 * Pickhill with Roxby
 * Rainton with Newby
 * Rufforth with Knapton
 * South Stainley with Cayton
 * Sutton with Howgrave
 * Thornthwaite with Padside
 * West Hauxwell

The missing parishes in South Yorkshire which are only redirects but should be articles are:

A total of 3, see User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes (3).
 * Clayton with Frickley
 * Dinnington St John's
 * Harthill with Woodall

The missing parishes in West Yorkshire are:

A total of 2, see User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes (3).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Havercroft with Cold Hiendley
 * Huntwick with Foulby and Nostell

FAR for History of Sheffield
I have nominated History of Sheffield for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:19, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2022
Last few days to vote on this year's Community Wishlist Survey 2022. There are suggestions for small improvements to the software or new tools to make life easier which the team can work on in the coming year. The current list in vote order can be found here. Make your voice heard. Keith D (talk) 23:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Move request
Would appeciate some input into the move request at Talk:Houghton Hall, East Riding of Yorkshire as would have significant implications for all Yorkshire articles needing disambiguation. Keith D (talk) 17:13, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Article disambiguation
A request for comment has been made on article disambiguation that could potentially affect a number of articles in the project's remit. Please take a look at this discussion and give your thoughts. Keith D (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Photographs of York
I shall be wandering around York this summer (well, all year round actually) with a camera. If anyone has suggestions for photographs of York that might be desirable, drop me a line. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:01, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

AfD
Hi. Please see this AfD, esp. with regards to the possibilty of local sourcing in the 1920s. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Event at Leeds City Museum
Hello all! Just a quick note to say that the team at Leeds City Museum are running a wikithon in early January to which existing editors are totally welcome too! Lajmmoore (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Lucia,, I've only just seen this. If you are planning any more of these, I'd love to come and help out, if you think I could be useful? Please let me know on my talk page, though, because I might miss this page (too much on the watchlist). The major problem that my non-wiki friends have - for some reason - is uploading their images to Commons. They all seem to give up due to "time, effort and hassle", and that includes people profient in IT. Their main complaint seems to be that the upload wizard fails at some point. So that is something that I could help them with. (there's nothing wrong with Commons or the upload wizard - people just don't seem to know exactly what info to feed it with). We do need more pictures of Yorks locations, people, etc. Storye book (talk) 14:51, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Storye book (talk) 14:56, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata queries to identify potential articles
Hello, I’ve joined this group as a denizen of Yorkshire trying to improve my Wikimedia skills.

Using the Wikidata query service I’ve run a few queries to list various Yorkshire entities and corresponding Wikipedia URLs where they exist. Not sure how useful people will find it, but here they are:

Rivers: https://w.wiki/6BNb

Castles: https://w.wiki/6BNZ

Churches: https://w.wiki/6BNg

Lakes: https://w.wiki/6BNr

Market towns: https://w.wiki/6BNe

N.B. Results are only as good as the data in Wikidata. For instance, there are limited results for ‘Market towns’ because the records lack the relevant property, which I’ll start adding (Edit: thanks to  who used Petscan to identify market towns and batch add the relevant property.)

Nick Sheppard (talk) 23:16, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Those are handy. It might be time for me to get round to writing an article for Laughton en le Morthen Castle. Richard Nevell (talk) 09:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for East Riding of Yorkshire
East Riding of Yorkshire has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

North Yorkshire
Thinking ahead, the North Yorkshire districts are to be abolished, we use these as disambiguation for various articles. Should these all be moved to North Yorkshire when the districts are abolished? Keith D (talk) 20:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I guess we'll have to use more "(near)" qualifiers, see Talk:Burton (near Neston). Same with Somerset and possibly Cumbria.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * So Hornby, Hambleton would be Hornby, Yarm, and Hornby, Richmondshire, Hornby, Richmond? Not trying to be a git, just pondering how we hurdle these things. The joy of all things (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * - do we need to come up with a to-do list? So, for example, all the below make into past tense:

Craven District

Hambleton District

Borough of Harrogate

Richmondshire

Ryedale

Borough of Scarborough

Selby District


 * Also list those places that need a name change? Possibly turn it into a wiki-thon?Thoughts? The joy of all things (talk) 20:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * We will have to change the infobox and text to include "was in X district until 2023" on all the location articles. May need some tweaks to Infobox UK place. Keith D (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Will need to think about categories named after districts. Keith D (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ,... and do we still include settlements in those categories? Currently Aiskew has a cat stating it is in the Hambleton District, do we remove this, or rename the cat to Former Hambleton District and leave it in? thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 05:37, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No we don't generally include things in defunct unit categories except for things like elections etc that are directly connected with the area.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think we would change the standard text of "X is in the Ryedale district, in the county of North Yorkshire, England" to "X is in the North Yorkshire district, in the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, England". And in the "History" section put something like "From 1974 to 2023 it was in the Ryedale district.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:58, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably best to simplify and just drop "the North Yorkshire district, in the ceremonial county of" Keith D (talk) 19:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

As North Yorkshire has now merged, are you both okay with the disambiguation as above? IE, Easby, Richmondshire to Easby, Richmond, and Easby, Hambleton to Easby, Great Ayton. Trouble is, will people confuse Easby Richmond with the Richmond in London (or even possibly elsewhere?) Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 13:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It should be Easby (near Richmond) and Easby (near Great Ayton) as theses places aren't in the settlement of administrative units. Unless there's another Richmond with another Easby nearby it wouldn't likely be ambiguous/confusing.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:21, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Richmond is confusing, think we need a North Yorkshire, to be clear. Keith D (talk) 20:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for James Milner
James Milner has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

RFC on using maps and charts in Wikipedia articles
This might be of interest to the project members: Village pump (policy). Keith D (talk) 21:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The RFC, now at Requests for comment/Using maps as sources, has questions related to notability. -- Keith D (talk) 19:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:43, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Henry Moore
I have nominated Henry Moore for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 15:58, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

F Club
Please see the talk page of F Club where a note from the probable original owner of the venue is asking for assistance in page accuracy. This seems an important music page and may benefit from a reading by members here. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

FAR for William Wilberforce
User:Buidhe has nominated William Wilberforce for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:24, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

For your delectation: some Yorkshire history resources
If you are creating, or contributing to the content of, Yorkshire articles, you may be interested to know that I have recently uploaded images to Commons from the pages of six of W.T. Pike's Contemporary Biographies, Two of these volumes are related to Yorkshire, i.e. North and East Ridings, and West Riding. I have photographed the indexes, and photographed and uploaded some of the portraits and biographies. Six of the volumes (Durham, Kent, Northumberland, Sussex, and 2 x Yorkshire) are in my possession, so if you spot something in the indexes which may be of use to you, please let me know on my talk page, and (so long as I am available) I would be happy to photograph the content that interests you, and upload it for you.

Sorry it's all old well-off white men and their big houses - but on the other hand, I have found some items which would definitely be of interest to our rail and tram enthusiasts. I have found a few other gems, if you care to take a good look - including buildings which are no longer in existence.Storye book (talk) 08:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Sam Jackson (actor)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sam Jackson (actor) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

North Yorkshire infobox images
There is a discussion at Talk:North_Yorkshire which could use input from those who know North Yorkshire. Pam D  10:59, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Looking to merge Tees Valley into Teesside
These articles are with in range of this project so would anybody like to comment in the proposal. Chocolateediter (talk) 09:48, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

North Yorkshire infobox images (2)
Hello! Last month there was a discussion at North Yorkshire about which images to include in its infobox. This has not yet produced a result, and as a result the infobox is still unstable. I've restarted the discussion in an attempt to reach a conclusion, and any contributions are appreciated. Thank you. A.D.Hope (talk) 10:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Photograph request - Middlesbrough transporter bridge
At Talk:North Yorkshire we are discussing the collage images for that article's infobox. One of the suggestions has been to use the image to the right. Thematically it is on point, but photographically it could be better, so if there is anyone local who could get a (or anyone who knows of a suitably licensed) higher quality image from approximately that angle that would be very useful. The image must be portrait orientation and would ideally be in better weather (the other proposed images are all taken on sunny days). Thank you. Thryduulf (talk) 22:17, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Judging by the cycle path in the foreground, this is taken from the County Durham side, so would have to be a morning shot due to the sun's position in the later day. I will try some shots later today or tomorrow, unless someone else completes this task before then. The joy of all things (talk) 06:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * , sorry, but currently it is not playing ball on the creativity front. I know this is a severe crop, but it demonstrates the weather there at the moment. Atmospheric shot, but not what you are after. I will try again next week when the rain has cleared some of the pollution and haze. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 20:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your efforts so far. The weather there is somewhat different to what we're currently experiencing in London! Thryduulf (talk) 20:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Where I live it is very sunny and 26-28 degrees, but on Friday the Vale of York was very misty. I naively assumed as Middlesbrough is very close to the coast, it would not be affected..... The joy of all things (talk) 20:44, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I hope these are of some use, some look like they could be lightened further (my screen must be a bit off, or my eyeball is), so just let me know if I need to do so and I will upload a newer version. I know you want portrait, but I wanted to also offer alternatives. Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 14:29, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Excellent, thank you very much. I think number 5 is about perfect. Thryduulf (talk) 14:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * No 4 is in the exact same position as the original image, but a new seating area has been built by the cycle path and is slightly encroaching on the image. The joy of all things (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I realised that after I commented. I've inexpertly cloned out the bench and its shadow River Tees Transporter Bridge 04-modified.jpg. Thryduulf (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Removing North Yorkshire districts from settlement articles
Hello! Many of the articles on places in North Yorkshire have not been updated to reflect the abolition of the county's districts in April, so if anyone fancies browsing List of civil parishes in North Yorkshire and ticking a few off that would be fab. This typically means:


 * Removing the mention of the former district in the lead.
 * Removing the district field from the infobox.
 * Updating any other mention of the district in the body.

If you can also update the North Yorkshire Council electoral division at the same time that would be helpful.

Cheers, A.D.Hope (talk) 09:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The district details should go into the history as part of the place's governance not just removed. Keith D (talk) 20:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Keighley College: photo (and article) needed
This needs an article, given that its history goes back to the Mechanics Institute of 1825 and that it seems now to be once more branded as a stand-alone college, rather than a "campus" of Park Lane College and then Leeds City College. Could someone local please take a photo showing the current branding, which seems to have happened in 2017 - see https://keighleycollege.ac.uk/keighley-college-back/ - rather than this "Keighley Campus" image. I might have a go at putting an article together (I'm amazed there wasn't even a redirect to one of the past parent colleges, can't think how I missed that when doing some work on Park Lane myself a while back, but I can't see any history of any previous page or redirect), but someone with current local knowledge could probably do it better. Pam D  08:37, 26 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've fallen down today's rabbit-hole and created a solid little stub here, with logo and out-of-date photo, adding it to a couple of templates and lists, but it needs more content. In particular if anyone has good sources for its history, and various buildings etc: in 2016 there was a campaign to save its old building from demolition: did that happen? And so on. Pam  D  09:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Defunct Sheffield Companies: Stephen Toulson & Sons
Hello! I'm looking for some help with regard to identifying references to meet notability criteria for a defunct Tinsley business which was a significant contributor to big regional infrastructure projects over several decades; Stephen Toulson & Sons. My submission on the subject was recently declined as the references I have used do not show that the subject qualifies for a wikipedia article. I have tried to use newspaper articles with more significant coverage of the business. I am not aware of any books that have been published with significant coverage of the company and would appreciate any guidance or advice from more experienced users, particularly those who have contributed to the Defunct Companies category.

Note, I have also declared a COI for transparency - I am the great great grandson of the founder. The business was sold before I was born and I have no other affiliation nor stand to gain in any way.

Thanks! Adam.toulson (talk) 06:12, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Useless artefacts
Hello all. In the services section of the Brighouse and Normanton railway station articles there are two artefacts unnecessary for the rendering of the table in that section. The offending items are a pipe and a dash (&#124;-). Does anyone know how to get rid of them without disturbing the adjacent tables? I for the life of me cannot work out what is going on. Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks to be because two templates were on the same line, fixed it by moving s-rail-next to a new line. EdwardUK (talk) 22:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The joy of all things (talk) 22:42, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposed county infobox template change
A discussion is ongoing at Template talk:Infobox English county which is likely of interest to this project. The original proposal is for straight removal of the ethnicity field from the template; the population field would remain. This and a modified proposal would have the same effect on Yorkshire. A result of the change, if consented to, is the restriction of demographics, other than population to the local authority administrative sections of the county infoboxes. It has no effect on editors placing reliably sourced statistics in the body of the article. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)