User:SoLando/archive

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Hi, saw your request for Royal Navy pictures and thought I should mention that I've tracked one down for the second HMS Colossus from 1890; due to its age it should be public domain but of course I can't upload it yet because uploads are disabled at the moment.

Surprisingly, there are quite a few public domain photos of Royal Navy ships on the US Navy history site, I found a couple of the Dreadnoughts there. - Hephaestos 17:33, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I'm very pleased about that. At the moment i'm writing the HMS Cardiff article. It will probably take me a few hours due to me being easily distracted :-( I'll check the US Navy site out, save a few pictures and then go trawling google. Thanks again :-) SoLando 17:39, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi, you've been adding some great RN stuff! (I would do some, but I have no detailed sources :-( - what have you been using?) For the articles that get big, like HMS Colossus, it's useful to break them up by specific ship, a la HMS Warrior or the US Navy ships, that way links from battles and such can go directly to the right ship. Otherwise the reader has the disconcerting experience of clicking on a link in Battle of Jutland and seeing text on an 18th-century SOL - they may not realize that they need to click down. Also it will be quicker downloading when the pictures get added - won't get irrelevant pics. Stan 19:33, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks :-) Ok i'll try and do the one ship one page thing. Have to try and get used to that. Basically i've been using various sources on the net, digesting the info' and then using my own way of writing the article. I'll try and keep adding more RN stuff, hopefully my fingers won't drop off :-) Oh by the way, I was kind of perplexed by the article NAeL Minas Gerais. In this BBC link HMS Vengeance it says that it could be docked at Falmouth. It's dated 21st December 2002 so it quite new. Friends of the Vengeance Campaign kind of contradicts it as well so has anyone got any new info' on HMS Vengeance? SoLando 19:51, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)


 * One of the interesting emergent properties of a bunch of interlinked Wikipedia articles is that mistakes in the source materials start showing up as inconsistencies. I don't know what the answer is in this case, but in several cases I've gotten good info by simply emailing people and asking questions, or asking for their comments on the WP article. Stan 23:02, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi SoLando, you said you've lost your image editing CD. There's a freeware program I use for resizing or converting images. It's easy to use and does even allow batch conversions. It's at http://www.irfanview.com/ (It's free for non commercial use, despite being at a .com address). -- JeLuF 20:52, Jan 6, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll check it out now. That should really help :-) And Stan, i`ll try that and I`ll see if I can trawl the web for more news. SoLando 21:47, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hello. I liked the article you wrote on the King Edward VII class battleship . It is very informative and compact. The image table was broken, so I fixed it, and reworded the intro a little. Thank for you enlightening me on this important part of naval history. -- Decumanus 02:46, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Amazing your depth of knowledge on military history. The Duke of Wellington's Regiment has been listed on the main page, as Wellington's Regiment, because that's all that could fit. Great work. -- user:zanimum

I'd like to second Stan's appreciation for your work on the RN. I have contributed some articles on that myself, but I don't have sources for quite a lot of the older ships beyond very general knowledge. At the moment, I'm making stub articles, with the standard table for RN ships, if I've written it and if it's necessary, a link to the appropriate MediaWiki message, a link to the MediaWiki stub message, and recently, a standard text hopefully linking to the general article on the ship name.

BTW, I've done a list of RFA ships, which includes similar stub articles, and also includes data on pennant numbers, which can be very difficult to find for RFA ships. There's a site hosted by BT Internet that, whilst not updated for a couple of years, is a fantastic sources on postwar RN and especially RFA ships. There's virtually nothing else like it on the internet for RFA vessels. David Newton 21:08, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Sorry about that delay. You've certainly been a prolific contributor to Wiki, i'm rather slow at it, but nevermind. It's certainly good that people are getting info' on the British armed forces onto Wiki', as a lot of sites that do have information on them are disapearing from the 'net, sadly. So Wiki' really is becoming a good source of information for the British, indeed other nations armed forces, for people wanting to find out about them. Keep up the great work your doing SoLando 06:21, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi, SoLando. Thanks for doing these regiment histories. I've created Template:Kings_Regiment_history which can replace the tables on each of the articles. Do you have any objection to using it? Geoff 06:56, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi, I've no problems about you replacing the tables. Thanks for doing it. You've been doing fantastic work on WWI articles. Many of them have been a great help when trying to expand battle info' in ship or regimental histories. SoLando 07:09, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Done and thanks again. I will do the same for your Wellington's Regiment series later. Geoff 07:20, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I've made some changes to the Formidable class battleship article, noting the London subclass. I'm no expert on ships so hopefully I haven't made a mess of it. Geoff 04:29, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Re: HMS Finsterre: it's done. I made it a redirect instead of deleting it, since linking to a ship by its year of launch is also correct. David Newton 02:20, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Falklands Maps
You asked about the maps for the Falklands Goose Green battle, yes I do plan to make context maps for the other Falklands battles when I find sources that give good locations for the landmarks mentioned. Detailed maps are hard to find, but my shortlist is: -Wikibob | Talk 13:17, 2004 Apr 30 (UTC)
 * Battle of Mount Harriet
 * Battle of Two Sisters
 * Battle of Mount Longdon
 * Battle of Wireless Ridge
 * Battle of Mount Tumbledown

Good work on the HMS Warspite (1913) article! -- Cabalamat 18:36, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

Heya, I was just browsing through the latest new articles, when I came across your Scots Guards (1805). What a delight to find something so solid and informative, where so often there is nothing but one-line stubs about fictional characters! :-) Keep up the great work!! &mdash;Stormie 05:32, Jun 25, 2004 (UTC)

Hi. In your Type 12 article you say the ships were built as an alternative to the much more expensive Type 14. In your Type 14 article you say they were built as an alternative to the much more expensive Type 12. I assume the Type 14 article is correct? Maury 13:21, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, it was a typo on the Leander-class article. It was meant to be Type 12, which were known as the Rothesay and Whitby classes. So both articles are quite correct. As the Leander-class were general purpose, while the Rothesay and Whitby's were single-purpose. I'll correct it. SoLando 17:30, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

In the news - Chicoutimi
Hello SoLando, please make sure that any items you add to the "In the news" section on the Main page are first added to the Current events timeline, see guidelines: In the news section on the Main Page. I have added the Chicoutimi entry for you. Regards, Solitude 11:53, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Ship class footers
You are responsible for creating a number of ship class footers, so you might like to read and contribute to the discussion at WikiProject Ships. Gdr 01:10, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

careful with the uploads!
The image Image:Royal_Navy_Westland_Sea_King.jpg is from a non-profit site, but the image is still copyrighted! Take care! &mdash; Zeimusu | Talk 02:17, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)

New ship table template
I've spent the last few days working on a new ship table template to enable us to centralise the editing of things like weapons outfits for a particular class of ships in one template (so with the Fletchers or Gearings or other big classes you only have to edit in one place to alter a mistake rather than in dozens or hundreds). Please have a look at the WikiProject Ships page's talk section and see what you think. I haven't written the instructions for using it yet, and I want to see whether there are any table cells people would like me to include that aren't present yet. There are two example tables, one with all the optional cells present, and the other with some excluded. David Newton 14:07, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Strategic bombing during World War II
Please see Talk:Strategic bombing during World War II -- Philip Baird Shearer 10:29, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

History of the British Army
Hi Joel, I've started contributing to the First World War section of your History of the British Army. I hope it's OK. Thanks for all the work you've put into it. Geoff/Gsl 07:46, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I've finished my expansion of the First World War section. I feel it's much too long but am having a hard time finding ways to trim it down.  I've put coverage of equipment (guns, artillery, tanks, etc.) in a separate Great War section but am not sure that it fits the structure of the article.  I'll see if I can help out with the other sections, but the only useful book I have is Chandler & Beckett, so I might not be able to add much. Geoff/Gsl 05:26, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I wasn't sure whether to do a "British Army in World War I" or a "Military history of the United Kingdom during World War I". However, I think there is scope for a British Army-only history to cover things that were important to the army such as changes in command, the formation and disbandment of armies and corps, and so on &mdash; stuff that's a bit too detailed for a all-encompassing military history.  I'll go ahead and do it shortly and then try and shrink the main article section back to manageable "Organisation" and "Operations" sections.  Geoff/Gsl 03:37, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Naming conventions (military units)
Hi. My watchlist shows that you were interested enough to work on a military-topic article, so I wanted to make sure you were aware of the new Naming conventions (military units) project, in case you didn't see any of the announcements. &mdash; B.Bryant 22:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Irish Guards Move Questions
What did you do with all the edits I just made to the Irish Guards 1939 page just before you moved it? and why are you re-merging the article when it was broken up for being too large? Dabbler 02:21, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

OK I was able to retrieve and copy them over so no harm done. I was just a bit surprised to see everything vanish just as I finished! Dabbler 03:03, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of British units in American Revolution
How did you choose the link format for these units? I suspect that more of these regiments have articles than are shown on this page. I found one. Rmhermen 14:28, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * See Category:British Army regiments for our already existing articles. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. Rmhermen 19:18, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

British Army Wikiproject
I think it would be a fantastic idea to have Wikiproject for the British Army. If there's any way I can help with the project, I'd be only too happy. Hammersfan 10:19 19/08/05

Hi Joel, I too would be happy to participate in the project though I don't have much time to spare at the moment unfortunately. I'm sorry I didn't make any progress on the History of the British Army but "real life" intervened for a while. Geoff/Gsl 07:32, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

List of World War I flying aces
Wow - very nice job on the template! I like it :).  Sure, the whole article will look a lot nicer with that template.  There's just tons of names (the list is still incomplete, too!), so it might take a long time.  I'll see if I can help out.  Again, nice job  :)  FranksValli 19:38, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

ship permissions
I would be grateful for your input about Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems (please comment there). Justinc 17:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Thank you very much for your vote on my RFA. Greatly appreciated. Take care! →Jo urna list >>talk<<  23:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Pedantic
Not at all. Good edit, SqueakBox 18:56, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA!
My dear SoLando, I simply wanted to drop by, now that my RfA is closed to give you a big THANK YOU! for your kind support. Your beautiful words towards me and my work gave me strength and cheered me up a lot; I really felt encouraged by them. You'll always have a friend in me. Hugs! Shauri Yes babe?  21:04, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Valentin Alsina
hahaha! Valentin Alsina, asides from being a politician, is a small neighbourhood south of (and just outside the formal limits of) the city of Buenos Aires. Needless to say, it is located in Buenos Aires Province...

It is like Bethesda, MD or Arlington, VA, being part of DC's suburbs but just outside the city limits. :)

--Sebastian Kessel Talk 04:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Highlanders
Hi, your edit here confused me. Was the original text not correct, in that the Cameronians are now part of the Highlanders Regiment? Of course this will soon all be a moot point, thanks to army reorganisation, so it's probably best out of the article anyway. Leithp 08:51, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Joel!
How are you doing? I just wanted to drop by to let you know that the Texas Ranger Division article is ready, in my humble opinion. Since you expressed your interest in having a look once it was finished, I'd me more than happy if you want to have a look at it. I wish the guys at FAC think the same! I hope you enjoy it. Hugs! Shauri   smile!  19:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Heyy my dear Joel! thank you so much for your kind support! Your words of encouragement mean a lot to me. It's because of people like you that WP is a place worth staying in for a long, long time. A wholehearted THANK YOU! from your Spanish friend, and be sure to drop by my Talk Page whenever you want. Hugs! :) Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  22:00, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for your vote in my RfA. I'll do my best to live up to the wiki standards and be a good admin!

--Sebastian Kessel Talk 15:27, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Category for the Rangers
Wassup my dear Joel! Awesome work with the Category! I simply love it, and shame on me for not thinking of it myself. I'm pleased to see the comprhensive work you did on the subject. I cannot think of a better compilation of information. With your great contribution, now all related topics are easy to access. Congratulations on the awesome idea!

I'm starting to think that the FAC is stuck, tho... I cannot seem to be able to resolve the four objections, and unfortunately, no new supports have been offered. With the current 7-4 count, it's doomed to fail right now. I'm beginning to think about ways of making at least a couple of objectors strike their opposals down by agreeing to summarise some parts. Honestly, I don't know what else to do :(

Your support and enthusiasm has enlightened my day. Thank you so much, Joel. Allo me to appoint you honorary Wikipedian Texas Ranger! Have a great day! Shauri   smile!  02:55, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the recent barnstar regarding Liverpool Blitz. I'm interested in WW2 and consider Liverpool to be my adopted home so it was a natural choice of article to create :) chowells 19:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Welcome to the B Team:
Welcome to Wikiproject Battles. Hope you have a great time. If you need anything, ask me or one of our knowledgable members; Kirill Lokshin, LordAmeth or R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine).

Regards, Spawn Man 23:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

No problem, Anytime ;]
Your welcome, Thanks for dropping by and leaving me a note. That user ended up being blocked (see HERE ) for 24h. I love a good challange, and he didn't wanna give up ;] Anyhow, have fun ;] --VileRage (  Talk  |  Cont  )  06:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi there. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Yes, I'd be happy to accept a nomination for admin status. -- Necrothesp 14:45, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for your support! If you should ever have any concerns about my actions as an administrator, please be sure to tell me! Kirill Lokshin 13:26, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Horrocks
Hi, thanks for the help on Brian Horrocks, I've been meaning to expand that page for some time now. Can I be nosey and ask what your source is for the information on his battalions? I've been scrabbling around trying to find more information on the man and this might be something I've missed. Leithp 09:56, 2 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Excellent, my google searches were all pretty fruitless, although I did turn up lots of Wikipedia mirrors. I'll have a look at those sites later today. Cheers! Leithp

Infobox
I've only started using the modular templates recently, but I'd be happy to help you. I'm not terribly familiar with British Army regiments though; do you want to make all of the fields optional, or just some of them? Kirill Lokshin 00:46, 4 November 2005 (UTC)


 * All finished! I went ahead and made all the parameters optional, since leaving the last ones in raw table markup seemed to cause some funny errors.
 * I doubt this will come up, but just so you're aware: the code I've been writing seems unable, at present, to deal with the insertion of footnotes as template parameters; thus, don't be surprised if you add one and it breaks the box ;-) Kirill Lokshin 03:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * [[Image:WikiThanks.png|Thanks!]] Thank you very much for the barnstar! Kirill Lokshin 16:14, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

DWR
Sorry that was a temporary revert to get a link that was in there but you revrted it back before I could, one one the problems with not knowing who is doing what when? Never mind all has ended as I intended. 86.2.136.115 19:26, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * One minor point: The new info box headers are well spaced but the info on the right is somewhat squashed up and truncated wrapping text onto the next line in an untidy way. Is it possible to widen the info box or drop the info text below the headings to use up the width more evenly?


 * I agree with you that unbordered box's are better. I think the problem may lie in that the box seems split unevenly due to the length of the formal title 'Colonel of The Regiment'. You could try having the titles centred above each section, which would then allow the longer names and post nominals to be presented in a better format, That may also reduce the length of the infobox as well?. 86.2.136.115 23:51, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Personally I don't have a problem with that format of title, that is what they are these days, but they do actually control things as opposed to being a figurehead like the Colonel in Chief is. Hold on for a day or two. I will send Sir Evelyn an e-mail and see if he has a problem with it. 86.2.138.120 01:01, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


 * SoLando; I have received a reply to e-mail from Sir Evelyn, The Title 'Honorary Colonel' would not be correct however it can be shortened to 'Colonel', This would not be confuse with the commanding officer of the Regiment who is known as a 'CO' and a Lieutenant Colonel in rank, Incidentally the current CO of the Duke of Wellington' Regiment is Lieutenant Colonel Phil Lewis MBE. He has also noted in the article on the 8th Duke of Wellington that his Post Nominals include the O.StJ. He has also advised that this refers to 'Officer of St John' which is no longer used by His Grace and has requested it be deleted. 86.2.138.120 00:55, 8 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Ok, I think that "Colonel" should suffice - and hey, it's short, which matters :-) Right now, I'm now hoping Kiril (see above section ;-)) solves the modular templates inability to handle footnotes, which would provide clarification that "Colonel" in this case doesn't refer to the CO. Ah well. Regarding the Officer of the Order of St John, I have to say that I have (very) limited knowledge of peerage and the like, so I encourage you to edit on that issue. SoLando (Talk) 01:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks M8:>
For Rv Vandalism on my user page --R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 23:23, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Shauri
Dear SoLando. I saw your message on Shauri's talkpage. Don't worry. Even thought it may look like a cloud has dimmed her sunshine, you will soon see it reappear :).--Wiglaf 07:58, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Crown copyright
I based the template for the Crown copyright on this PDF file:

http://www.museumscopyright.org.uk/crown-a.pdf

It is hosted by an organisation that is specifically devoted to informing museums and archives about copyright term lengths so I thought that it, and its companion PDFs referenced in the British copyright law article that I am largely the author of are reliable. To answer the question that you left on my talk page, then yes unpublished crown copyright photographs from 1954 or earlier are out of copyright.

This comes from the original treatment of all photographs by the Copyright Act 1911. Up until 1995 all photographs had a copyright term based on 50 years. The 1911 Act did not distinguish between published and unpublished photographs so photographs made during the time that Act was in force had a copyright term of 50 years from creation whether published or not. The Copyright Act 1956 did distinguish between published and unpublished photographs, with the former getting the 50 year term and the latter the perpetual copyright of unpublished works. In line with British legal precedent that only applied to photographs made after the commencement of the 1956 Act, ie 30 June 1957. The Copyrights Designs and Patents Act 1988 kept the 50 year term but ended the perpetual copyright protection of unpublished works, with a 50 year transitional period from commencement of the 1988 Act, ie from 1st August 1989 to 1st August 2039. Again it did not alter the status of works made before commencement in line with British legal practice, so photographs taken before 30 June 1957 still kept their 50 year copyright term whether published or unpublished.

All that changed in 1995 when the EU 'harmonized' copyright terms (despite the fact that things like French copyright law not counting the years during WWI and WWII towards the +70 years still exist). That meant that photograph copyright changed to being the same as that of other artistic works, ie life of the author plus 70 years. Importantly, unlike the 1911 Act, 1956 Act and 1988 Act the EU legislation was retrospective. The only class of works that it did not affect were Crown copyright photographs, which remain as they were, ie 50 years from creation for any photograph taken before 30 June 1957.

I can't talk about the specific photograph that you link to because when I clicked on the link it said that the session had expired on the search engine. David Newton 22:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Image
Hi Joel, I noticed too and was in the process of resolving it. I've seen the photo in Keegan's The Face of Battle (where he reckons it is August-September 1914) and in a 1915 issue of The War Illustrated (where I scanned it from) but in neither of those places was the unit identified. So I posted a question to the Great War forums and the response I had is that they are 4th Battalion, King's Liverpools and that, despite the un-trench like setting, it is 1915. Apparently the photo is featured in King’s Regiment Museum in the Museum of Liverpool Life so there might be more information there.

Certainly your image name is more accurate than mine so mine should be the one deleted. If we wait for more information, it might be possible to come up with a still better name.

I'm not sure which image is better. Mine was scanned from 90-year old newsprint, is lower resolution, and is banded from the lines of text on the other side of the page, but I feel it is slightly sharper in the foreground (though not sharper in the background). They are both cropped slightly differently. Wherever they are eventually placed, I would upload the one that won't be used first, and upload the other over it so that both are in the history. Geoff/Gsl 03:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Your sharpened image is clearly the best. I think the resolution of the firstworldwar.com image is needlessly high.  Perhaps something around 1000 pixels wide is enough (though of course, I would include the full size scan in the image history.)


 * If indeed it is the 4th King's, they joined the Sirhind Brigade on 6 March 1915 and the photo was first published in May 1915, so that places the action, if it was in battle, at Neuve Chapelle, or possibly Aubers Ridge. I think a title like "4th_Battalion_Kings_Regiment_1915.jpg" would be good enough unless you want to wait to gather more information.  Feel free to upload over my Commons photo until such time was we decide on a name.  Then you or I can move the Commons:Image:British infantry skirmish 1914.jpg history to the new name. Geoff/Gsl 23:59, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Your err My Barnstar
MUCHO GRAZZIE BRO! It will look great in the old Wiki-Trophy room;> I shall strive to continue to be worthy of it!--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 12:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

HELLO! C3PO?!
Hey M8, sorry to disturb your peaceful musings but THIS PHALLUS and his damned bot are messing with your template on our Order of Battle of the Waterloo Campaign page. I asked him to stop, so now he's argueing with and insulting me instead. If you agree with his edits, then I'll drop my objections, otherwise what say we take this clown downtown? Fives from DA Ghost,--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 12:05, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Weird night
Yes it started off rather humdrum and has been getter stranger by the minute. Anyway off to bed now, have to be up early in the morning! -- Francs2000 00:40, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Halibutt's RfA
I would like to express my thanks to all the people who took part in my (failed) RfA voting. I was both surprised and delighted about the amount of support votes and all the kind words! I was also surprised by the amount of people who stated clearly that they do care, be it by voting in for or against my candidacy. That's what Wiki community is about and I'm really pleased to see that it works. As my RfA voting failed with 71% support, I don't plan to reapply for adminship any more. However, I hope I might still be of some help to the community. Cheers! Halibutt 05:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Warboxes everywhere!
A little something for your efforts ;-) Kirill Lokshin 23:11, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Admin
Hi Joel, I've got a quick query. You've been around here for ages, and you do the anti-vandalism stuff, is there a reason that you've not gone for Adminship? It's something I've been puzzling over, and haven't made up my mind on, so I was curious what your thoughts were. Leithp (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, as you may have guessed, the above was also a thinly veiled query as to whether you want me to nominate you. I have now done so, so do you want to accept it? I won't be offended if you turn it down or if you want someone else to nominate you, as I'm aware my name doesn't carry as much clout as someone else's might. Let me know what you think. Leithp (talk) 13:06, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I should have mentioned that instructions for accepting or declining are here. Leithp (talk) 13:09, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Are you done with the answers? They look fine to me. It still needs to be posted on WP:RFA, but you're maybe better doing that if you need to make any changes to the nom. Leithp (talk) 14:34, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Done. Best of luck. Leithp (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Your RFA will soon be over, have you prepared your plans for mass vandalism of Wikipedia? ;-) Leithp (talk) 11:12, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Before you use your super-powers for evil, can you wing over to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and unprotect it? I've created Category:Films directed by Miloš Forman and now can't put Forman's most famous film in it because somebody has protected the page and then forgotten about it. I think it's been locked since September. Leithp (talk) 13:07, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

BD2412's RFA
Although my RfA is not over yet, I figured that since so many people voted before it had been posted, I may as well start thanking people before it wraps up. It'll take me that long to thank everyone who voted anyway! Thank you SoLando, for your support - I'll do my best as an admin to make the reality rise to the level of the dream. BD2412 T 05:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

DYK
Congrats on the DYK, that's a good article. Without wanting to jinx it, your nom seems to be going well too. Leithp (talk) 11:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Battleboxes
OK. Thank you for information. By the way, I think battlebox colors and formating are better than warbox. - Darwinek 12:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia 04:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Champagne.jpg|150px|right|thumb|Champagne for SoLando!]] Bravo!  Here's some champagne to celebrate the occasion. &mdash;Kirill Lokshin 04:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, and you're quite welcome! --King of All the Franks 23:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Contragulations! HGB 05:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Admin'ed


To SoLando upon the occasion of his elevation to the Adminship, may you wield the mighty golden mop wisely and well, CONGRADS!--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 04:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)]]


 * I would get you some champagne like Kirill, but I'm a cheap git. Have a few beers instead! Leithp (talk) 08:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Aye I'm even cheaper laddy, how about a spit and a hand shake? Congratulations! Knowledge Of Self | talk  17:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Congrats! -- user:zanimum

International Collaboration
Hi. Would you like to take part in Meta:Imperialism and world wars and/or WikiProject World Wars? would be great. Regards, John N. 15:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thats great. Maybe you could come in our chatroom on irc (#imperialismus), too. ;) Regards, John N. 15:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

DYK
No problem. Congrats on your recent adminship - exercising the Awesome Cosmic Powers, I see ;) -- ALoan (Talk) 17:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi SoLando, cheers for the support on my recent RFA. Hopefully I won't become a power-crazy figure like you suggest, although I have always wanted to live in a hollowed out volcano. Leithp (talk) 09:44, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Even if you do become a power-crazed admin, at least you will be OUR power-crazed admin and help us fight other, hostile power-crazed admins in the process. Besides, secret volcano strongholds and Persian cats are cool...most of the time;>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 12:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


 * BBQ? Am I envited? Spawn Man 02:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Just so long as someone replaces the liquid hot lava is replaced with sauce ;-) And RDH, I'm sure Leithp will be a rational power-crased admin - just so long as the "bad guys" are blocked, that's rational enough for me :-)

Scallies
The scallie porportion where I live (Halifax/Huddersfield) is quite bad, but not as bad as you. PS. Liverpool were cheated on Sunday Sceptre  ( Talk  ) 20:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!
This is actually fun! Look at this individual. They were actually making legal threats, brilliant! Leithp (talk) 21:30, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Izehar's RfA
Hi SoLando, I would like to thank you for your kind support on my RfA. I'll do my best to be a good administrator. If you need anything or if I ever do something I shouldn't have, please, don't hesitate to drop me a line. Izehar 16:26, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
 ''' Hello ,

I wish to thank you for your vote on my RfA. It has passed with a final tally of 59/0/0. If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know! Knowledge Of Self | talk  03:49, 31 December 2005 (UTC) '''

Requesting Backup
Hola mate! I'm afraid I've allowed my warlike ways to once more get the better of me. Remember that whole mess between Giano, his cohorts and I over Rfa reform? Well the bad blood from that has now fermented and spilled over into the FAC. HERE are the dirty details. Sigh, this is what happens when a Pyromaniac gets invited to a cookout. And why I'm reluctant to allow you or any of my other dear friends here tap me for admin. Sorry to drag you into this. How do I get into these messes? Cheers --R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 11:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Smile, SoLando, my friend!
 A Spanish fairy came to this page from Leithp's, blew some glittering magic Wikilove dust all over SoLando, smiled at him, and flew over to Spawn Man's page.

DYK edit request
Could you please wikilink Hanoi Hilton in the current DYK? Thanks preemptively. WAvegetarian (talk) (email)   (contribs) 09:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * ....And done :-) SoLando (Talk) 09:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

You forgot something :)
You said this but never did this. :) FYI.  Wikibofh(talk) 15:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * "Blushes" Thank you for filling in my hollow warning ;-) SoLando (Talk) 15:39, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for supporting me on my successful RfA! It passed with a final tally of 40/9/1. If there's anything I can do to help, just ask!  Sceptr e  ( Talk  )

War of the League of Cambrai
Thanks! &mdash;Kirill Lok s hin 14:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


 * No probs :-) SoLando (Talk) 14:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history: Coordinator elections
--Loopy e 04:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Vandal IP
Thanks for reverting my userpage! Sebastian Kessel Talk 19:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No probs, man :-) SoLando (Talk) 04:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Bad day
Is it just me, or is the atmosphere in this place getting more poisonous every day? I've just had another run in with WP:AFD, after promising myself never to darken its doors again, after undeleting an article. I just don't understand the Delete nn mentality. If someone has put time into writing a perfectly decent article on a borderline subject, why do people clamour to delete it? Leith p 16:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Because, sadly, there are sections that would readily purge 80% of Wikipedia and retain a very, very narrow field of topics :-( Tis a fearful prospect. Focusing on the Spanish Gothic Fairy always makes this fine Wikipedia better :-) SoLando (Talk) 16:34, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * A victory for common sense. Now all I need to do is go through the hundreds of outstanding borderline AFDs to find verifiability for all of them. Or not.... Leith p 17:08, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That it is. Delving into the AFD minefield to rescue worthy articles is damned brave :-) Now don't forget to inform me of such articles, ya hear! I'm off to resume sado-masochism now. *sigh* SoLando (Talk) 17:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed, youre a bolder man than Iam Gunga Leithp;> And you're dead on right about this, new poisionous climate. I took the opportunity to comment on it over on my Rfa at the bottom of the page. I've recently been involved in some battles to try and preserve images of historical value/interest. Perhaps we should pool our efforts and create some type of organization or project, to defend worthy content from overzealous deletionists. After all, we are supposed to be BUILDING a Pedia, not dismantaling one!--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 05:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Like I said, the Spanish Gothic Fairy soothes one's fears about a dark change in Wikipedia's atmosphere. I agree that something needs to be done to check this wanton deletionism; if it's a competent article, it should stay, regardless of how.....curious.....the topic is, and assuming it isn't WP:VANITY and the like. Maybe if we all collectively focus our qi....ahem....we can channel happiness and positivity into this awesome place, as a Spanish Wiki-Lady once did? SoLando (Talk) 05:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know what we can do, other than keep an eye out on all our watchlists. But something like 70% of articles are unwatched (see Special:Unwatchedpages) so it's something of a lost cause. AFD is far too large to keep an eye on, and I stopped once I found that it was dragging me down into a mire of bad-faith. The deletion reform can't come soon enough. I just hope that the deletionist tendency doesn't have its way and that the work-in-progress articles will be allowed to continue. I like an idea that Kirill had on the mailing list of assigning deletion to the projects, it means that you've more chance of getting informed comment. Leith p 08:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Lost causes are a forte of mine ;-) Until deletion reform arrives (and I have to admit, I'm quite cynical about how positive an impact it will have), frequent NP patrols can save many otherwise unfortunate articles :-) Kirill's proposal seems really interesting.....decentralistion is imperative, in my opinion. The whole AFD structure just seems to be so cumbersome.....I can almost see the tub of lard and a 10 ton ball and chain! Ah well. On to something more upbeat. How goes your Brian Horrocks article? Will you be making the article a guiding star for others soon?  SoLando (Talk) 19:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, my Horrocks project seems to have pretty much stalled. I need to add an awful lot of content about Market Garden, which I have a very sketchy knowledge of and some stuff about his time in Russia. My stuff about Russia is a series of anecdotes which I've no idea how to put into a coherent form. The whole article reads like a work in progress and I think needs serious copyediting as well as a lot more work before I can put it forward for peer review or as a FAC. Leith p 19:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * (Still chortling at the image of a tub o lard and 10 ton ball which is AFD:). A very good idea over on Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians is to have a Wiki(pedia) Recycle Bin, where threatened or deleted articles can get a second chance. Proof further that if you have a good idea, chances are someone has already thought of it. We need to support it...or if it does'nt take off and we cant find/come up with a better one, nick it and claim it for our own :>


 * One of the things I like about my M8, O'Connor is, he was a very prolific writer of letters, memos, orders, suggestions...you name it. Everything but his memoirs. Horrocks, on the other hand, wrote a very good autobiography, but did'nt seem to leave as much of a paper trail otherwise. This makes him a lot more friendly to the casual reader but a formidable foe for the serious researcher (hello:). Now that I have gotten reinforcements for La Grande Armee, I might be able to shift some forces your way to help out with Market Garden and on the Maruth line. These are his two main battles, and where the main effort should be concentrated.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 06:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The autobiography is a very well written and interesting book, but it was written twenty years after the events. The two biographys I have basically use it as their only source, apparently because Horrocks' memory had become faulty and he'd destroyed all his notes when moving house (why would you do that?!?). By re-telling the stories so many times he couldn't remember the events any more, just the anecdotes. He co-wrote a book called "Corps Commander", which goes into more detail about Market Garden. I'm planning to use this to expand the section, but it retreads a lot of the ground of the autobiography. Having said all this, the main reason it hasn't been expanded is that I'm too lazy to do it.


 * On a different subject, can either of you two go over and take a look at Arthur Ernest Percival? Nickhk has totally re-written it (it was an embarassment before) and it looks extremely comprehensive to me. It might be a good FAC. Leith p 08:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Never let the Horrock's article stall! Stalling leads to the dark side - of sloth, boredom, and Cliff Richard, it does! ;-) Leithp, count yourself lucky that you have so many anecdotes. I wouldn't mind having some for the King's Regiment :-( I'd like to help somehow with the article (I'll even do my utmost to ensure any additions aren't identifiable as being my grammar ;-)). The Percival article looks really good.....that photo of him with the Japanese commanders....why am I suddenly thinking of Lord Percy Percy? I'd prefer if there was more detail on his early life in WWI, and the intro' should be expanded. Also, Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel of the Cheshire Regiment in 1959? What the hell!? Was it an honory position, or did he actually command a battalion? That does need clarifying. And perhaps some mention should be made of Brig. Alfred James MacGregor Percival, assuming he's a relative. SoLando (Talk) 17:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Ha Ha
Muahahaaaa.... I was the first to know that R.D.H. was being nominated!!! I am superior!!!!! Spawn Man 02:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC). BTW, (just so you know, I'm always last to find out anything, so you finding out after me makes me feel empowered... MUAHAHAhahahaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa !!!!)


 * For the record, I direct you to this, this, and, yes, this. Just wait, I'll bring a dinosaur back to life.......lets see who knows about that first! ;-) SoLando (Talk) 02:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Well I know something about you that you don't know, that I knew first before you knew that I knew that you know about what I knew because you didn't know that I knew about what you didn't know!!!! So there..... Muahaha...... Spawn Man 03:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, uh, uh, I excel at being cross-eyed at moments like this! SoLando (Talk) 03:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Less than 24 hours ago I wasn't aware of it either. The evil lil voice in my head said, "Ignore it...it'll go away...play some more Command & Conquer: Generals - Zero Hour then go to bed." But I'm not one to leave my friends hanging. Spawn knew this, for he is truly evil.:>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 05:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It's the principle of the matter! I knew I should have read that guidebook to telepathy :-/ Anyway, RFA is going really well :-) SoLando (Talk) 05:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Alas it appears my days as an ordinary, carefree Wikipeon are numbered. Thanks Spawn Man;>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 05:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the fold, my unfortunate friend ;-) SoLando (Talk) 17:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I'm not in the cabal quite yet bro, but thanks. I'm kinda looking forward to it now. Hey we can go VANDAL THWACKING together!;>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 06:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Evil aye? I am changing my vote now!!!! Evil, Russkie... It sounds like you don't want me as your friend....... Spawn Man 07:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Now WHEN did I say that? I was TEASING! I LOVE evil Russkies...besides, there are WORSE things you can call someone..."greaser" for instance.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 09:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I thought you knew me well enough to know that when I'm bored I usually play practical jokes..... Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see how everyone reacted.... Muahahaaaa...... Spawn Man 00:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC). Besides, I knew you had enough votes for the time being.....

King's Regiment
My source is Tom Barry's Guerrilla Days In Ireland.

Lapsed Pacifist 10:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! SoLando (Talk) 19:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Military Unit
Since you probably have the most experience with this, I thought you might be able to give me some advice: what changes or enhancements (besides the support for British spelling&mdash;I'm still trying to figure out how best to do that) would be needed to allow this to be used as a replacement for Infobox British Army regiment? —Kirill Lok s hin 02:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm honoured :-) Well, I believe that there is really only one major field omitted from Infobox Military Unit: "Colonel of the Regiment", informally known as "Honorary Colonel" (or though that is, apparently, inaccurate, but meh!). An "Alliances" parameter might be useful, though one regiment can hold many alliances (see Royal Anglian Regiment for an example), but that can be circumvented by creating a section in the article. Maybe a Freedom(s) (of the city) field? Other than that, I believe that the transition from Infobox:British Army regiment to Infobox Military Unit would be seamless :-) SoLando (Talk) 02:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent! Would there be any problem with using the "Ceremonial chief" parameter for the "Colonel of the Regiment" and just adding a way to change the label on the field?  —Kirill Lok s hin 02:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The "Ceremonial chief" parameter would be better retained for "Colonel-in-Chief", a position usually reserved for a member of the royal family. The "Colonel of the Regiment" position is usually held by former serving officers affiliated with the regiment in question. Sorry for the confusion! SoLando (Talk) 02:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem ;-) Take a look at WikiProject Military history/Military unit infobox; Colonel of the regiment and an optional override to the "Colors" label has been added.  Would you happen to know of a good alternate term for "Specialization" that doesn't have different spellings, by the way? —Kirill Lok s hin 03:02, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Great work! "Role" could be a good non-dialect specific parameter title. What do you think? SoLando (Talk) 03:09, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Good enough for me! —Kirill Lok s hin 03:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * And done! Hopefully we can leave the unit template to rest for the time being and concentrate our efforts on the bio one :-) —Kirill Lok s hin 03:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yowzas! As I'll probably be up for a while, I'll proceed to convert the British Army infoboxes, and add unit infoboxes to as many articles as I can :-) SoLando (Talk) 03:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!
I would like to thank you for your support for my candidacy for the Military history WikiProject coordinator position. I am now the Lead Coordinator, and I intend to do my best to continue improving the project. If you ever have any questions or concerns regarding my actions, or simply new ideas for the project, be sure to let me know! —Kirill Lok s hin 00:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't believe I'll ever have concerns, though I'm sure I'll always have questions. As ever, great work! SoLando (Talk) 19:26, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Cheers
I don't wanna overdo it or anything, so here's just a brief note thanking you for supporting me in the WikiProject Military history coordinator elections. Cheers, and I hope I can please as Assistant Coordinator! --Loopy e 01:25, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


 * An image of beer......the future of the project looks positively rose :-) SoLando (Talk) 19:28, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinators
Sorry I am late! Been away watching the Superbowl. I'm not good at thank-you messages, but still, thank you for supporting me, I'll do my best. :D If you ever need help, you know who to ask! -- Миборовский U 03:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


 * No probs! Ah, the Super Bowl. Good game, though I'll need Loopy's image of beer ^ to help me come to terms with the absence of the Dallas Cowboys :-( SoLando (Talk) 19:31, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

My talk page
Cheers for reverting! (PS, any news about when Robben is discharged from hospital? ) :P NSL E (T+C) 10:08, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, no probs. From what I hear, it may takes years of intense psycotherapy before Robben can move on in life after that traumatic incident....an oscar may soothe his pain, though ;-) SoLando (Talk) 10:12, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Unit guidelines
Very nice! I've added a section on the main project page; could you please copy the guidelines over to it when you're ready? (I could do it myself, but I don't really feel like doing all of the necessary GFDL stuff in that case.) Thanks! —Kirill Lok s hin 14:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I've moved it. Now onto some monotonous tasks......tagging unit articles with WikiProject Military history. Yayyyyyy.....;-) SoLando (Talk) 22:45, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Arthur Ernest Percival
If you get a chance would you mind having another look - Ive just nominated the article for WP:FAC, having tried to address your comments?

Nickhk

Oops!
I've just updated the info box on the Duke of Wellington's Regiment page with the Current Commanding officer and posting location. I also went to change the info title Ceremonial Colonel to Colonel in Chief, which is the official title, as Ceremonial Colonel is considered derogatory, those who hold the position are invariably ex serving officers with an official rank, Usually Brigadiers or Generals. Mind you it's not too important here as the Dukes are being merged with others on the 6th of June and the Colonel in Chief and Colonel of the Regiments positions will become redundant. However I must have done something wrong as now the position does not show at all! Sorry!! but could you take a look and correct my error?


 * Thanks for the additions! Yes, as there is no "Colonel in Chief" parameter in the Template:Infobox Military Unit's syntax, changing "Ceremonial chief" will result in the field being omitted in an article's infobox. I think I'll go and request a "Colonel-in-Chief" field. Thanks again! SoLando (Talk) 16:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * No need to create extra work for someone! I've worked out how to edit the field title and changed it. Ta

Please check your WP:NA entry
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 * Sorry to see that you've lost your adminship, Joel. I would have expected to see something about it on one of the noticeboards though. Did you try and delete every userbox/Pokemon article/School article/untagged image/AfD? Leith p 11:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hyuk, hyuk. My eyes nearly bulged, ya know :-p. Userboxes? Don't tell anyone, but I have a secret fondness for them. My user page had escaped the Great Purge.....and them came 17 February :-( I'm so totally unappreciated......where's my recognition, dammit!? ;-) SoLando (Talk) 22:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Hockey spam
Sorry about that...I was trying to be careful to not delete other additions, but I guess I missed one. Hopefully there weren't many entries you had to fix.  OhNo itsJamie Talk 20:38, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. There weren't many, and I was bored anyway, so I welcomed the extra work :-) SoLando (Talk) 22:04, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

To the underappreciated
"( I'm so totally unappreciated......where's my recognition, dammit!? ;-)" Nonsense;>
 * Thanks dude! Just to clarify to any onlookers, I was merely making a lighthearted observation on certain people, who act in a certain manner, in a certain place (guess ;-)), at a certain time :-) But thanks again! By the way, when are you going to send that rather big French Army over to peer review? SoLando (Talk) 06:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

British military history stuff
Hey! Since you seem to be the remaining active member of the British Army WikiProject, I was wondering if you could comment on my here, particularly with regard to that project (and the RAF one). Thanks! —Kirill Lok s hin 17:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * We now have a British military history task force setting up; hopefully, we'll see a bit more activity there. Do you think there would be any objections to merging the separate British Army project into it?  —Kirill Lok s hin 03:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd be very surprised if there were any objections......very surprised ;-) I'll try to get round to contributing to the development of the task force soon. Great work and thanks for the heads up! SoLando (Talk) 11:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA
Thank you for supporting my successful request for adminship. I'll try to put the admin tools to good and responsible use. If I do anything wrong you know where to find me. Raven4x4x 08:43, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Greetings
...to a Scouser of Polish origin in Liverpool from a Scouser of Bosnian origin in Vienna. One never knows how small the world is! nepTune 18:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi! Yes, it is. Though I have to admit, I wished the world was a tad smaller - it would help me travel more if tickets were cheaper! ;-) SoLando (Talk) 19:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, mind you, I wouldn't mind taking a fellow Scouser down to Bosnia, just in case... nepTune 13:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Heh, I'm so sad I actually have a list of desired holiday destinations. Alas, I fear they'll never be ticked off. Bosnia has always seemed interesting to me, but I consider it far too "close to home". Now Japan... :-) SoLando (Talk) 05:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Page move request
Hi Joel, I was hoping you could use your admin powers and do me a favour. I have tried to get a bad page move corrected through normal channels (Requested moves) without any success. First day on the Somme was moved to Battle of Albert (1914) and then cut-and-pasted back so that it can't be restored. Would you be able to fix it? Delete the current first day on the Somme (history) and move the current Battle of Albert (1914) back to first day on the Somme then revert it to a correct version prior to the move (25 February or thereabouts)? Geoff/Gsl 08:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the late reply - I knew I should have stayed awake! ;-) Ok, I've done it. Would you like me to restore the Battle of Albert (1914) article too, even though it was created in mistake? SoLando (Talk) 16:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Many thanks. I've put the stub content back on Battle of Albert (1914) and will expand it if I ever get the time. Geoff/Gsl 20:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. I'm probably understating it, but that was a surreal incident :-) SoLando (Talk) 21:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Bermuda Regiment
Thanks for the assist! Nitjanirasu 04:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. SoLando (Talk) 19:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Valentine tank division.jpg
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 * As an administrator, I could do that myself ;-) Hmmm, I'm going to err on the side of caution and opt to delete it. SoLando (Talk) 05:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Something for you...



 * Awesome! Thank you very much, Kirill. Good to see the new project award has been implemnted! SoLando (Talk) 06:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA
Nacon kantari  e |t||c|m 23:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

King's Regiment
I noticed your userpage links to them, so I thought you might like to know I've created stubs for the 40th (The King's) Royal Tank Regiment and 46th (Liverpool Welsh) Royal Tank Regiment. Not that they actually say much, but... Shimgray | talk | 22:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Awesome! I'll go ahead and start adding links in relevant articles. I feel compelled to say thanks, so thank you! :-) SoLando (Talk) 22:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!
Hi Joel! Thank you for supporting my RfA. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ ❝ R E  DVERS ❞ 20:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulations. A much deserved accomplishment! SoLando (Talk) 22:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I
delivered by Loopy e 05:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Dudley
See User:SoLando/Ward. Leith p 18:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. --CBDunkerson 13:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! It makes me nostalgic to see RFA thanks without templates. ;-) SoLando (Talk) 12:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

72.1.206.172
You blocked 72.1.206.172 on 15:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC). Well, (s)he's back at it again. Minnesota1 14:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the late reply. If the ip vandalises again, or you just want to get an immediate response to any vandals. Administrator intervention against vandalism is the ideal place! :-) SoLando (Talk) 21:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

50th division
Thanks for the info mate you do a great job yourself.(Tristan benedict 08:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC))

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Mercia Rifles
Do you know about this "Mercia Rifles" regiment that keeps appearing on the Structure of the British Army article? I can't find any mention of it anywhere using Google. Hammersfan 05/05/06, 16.15 BST


 * No, I've never heatd of the "Mercia Rifles". These ips have also added this "unit" to British Army Infantry and List of British Army regiments (1994)/2008. I've reverted such edits, as I believe them them to be spurious. Perhaps the culprit is an irate soldier? ;-)  SoLando (Talk) 19:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Club RSX
Thanks for sprotecting Club RSX. It was turning into a lot of work keeping this one (relatively) clean of vandalism. Best, Gw e rnol 05:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. Keeps WP:AIV empty for, oh, five seconds ;-) SoLando (Talk) 05:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

hotlink question for you
What do you do to make the person's IP address clickable with also a talk link in brackets afterwards too? Put one bracket, two brackets, special brackets? See here. Or is it customary to copy the whole link manually like I just did now?


 * To generates a User + talk (and contribs) automatically, just include User| before the name, eg . If you wish to sign your name with a timestamp, use four tides ~, which generates SoLando 13:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * In an edit summary, you don't need to adhere to such formalities, just simplify it to "rv vandalism" or "rv vandal ip", etc. As an admin, I have rollback, which automatically generates a link to the reverted user. There are similar tools available for non-admins; check out Vandalism and the Counter Vandalism Unit. Hope that helps. Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 13:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I loathe code, but you might prefer that as an alternative. See Sign your posts on talk pages. SoLando (Talk) 13:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I'm Federica...I've seen this notice in your like in other user page:This user is a recent changes patroller...but what does it means exactly? bye see u soon fedina


 * A recent changes patroller refers to those who scour recent changes (which allows you to see the most recents edits) for users committing vandalism on Wikipedia. The project apppreciates any help in these efforts, so if you'd like more information, pertinent pages are available at Vandalism and Counter Vandalism Unit, Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 16:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Ta, for the revert of my user page. David Underdown 13:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


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i fear the fact that you are ignorant has clouded your judgment
sorry that youve felt the need to delete my comment on the utterly ridiculous merging of continental system and blockade, and that youve deleted my perfectly accurate alteration to the article.

I'm interested to know on what basis youve decided to delete it, other than you have some supercool vandalize finding programme. Unless you have somthign to add on the matter thats more constructive than the ape like grunting noises im sure you usually communicate with, replace my contribution. If there is a problem with format or spelling, feel freee to edit.#

I dont have tmie to write a long piece as im busy, but its better than the limited half truth that is there. For more info on my poiont i suggest you read eli heckscher's continental system and ellis's case stufy of alsace under the system, then i have some more for you. Its an interesting subject but what is wriitn a tthe mooment is common misconception, not knowledge as t should be


 * Your edits to Continental System entailed the removal of significant amounts of text, including the lead intro. If you do not wish to be reverted by those patrolling against vandalism, be more careful! Before deciding to remove large chunks of text as an anon, discuss such changes on the talk page. That is why you were reverted. In regard to the talk page comment on World War I, I do apologise. SoLando (Talk) 15:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

User:TheFixer
Thanks for the block. Also note similar edits to James Blunt from anon at "83.71.29.202". --John Nagle 20:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. The ip has been given a test4. It's stopped for now. I hate when vandals choose ironic names :-( SoLando (Talk) 20:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

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Hi! I'm just reminding everyone about my quiz section, the Hardest Questions In The World Section. Although many players are already taking part, the more people playing, the more exciting it becomes. Drop by the following link to play... See this link to take part in the competition! Questions are updated every so often, so come back later if there are none left to answer. Thanks, Spawn Man 01:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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RV on my userpage
Thanks Bro!--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 16:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. Alas, it does appear that we all need to pray for Mojo!!!!! :-) SoLando (Talk) 08:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Glasses
I've got a few old pairs...how bad is your myopia? ;)--<font color="#CD2626">Shanel <font color="#EE2C2C">§ 18:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


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User page redesign
Well, it's a start. Hope you like it! :) Cheers,  Sango 123   (e)  22:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks Joel! There's nothing like a bright, generic smilie to brighten up one's day. ;) Cheers,  Sango 123   (e)  23:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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British Porpoise class submarines/HMS Rorqual
Hi. I noticed you wrote the article for the Royal Navy's British Porpoise class submarines. I just wrote an article on one of the boats in this class, HMS Rorqual. If you get the chance, could you look at the article and its talk page and see in what ways the article can be expanded or corrected? Thanks!--A. B. 18:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Looks good. Sources for many RN vessels can be scarce. I have no hesitation in saying I'm not knowledgeable of naval history. I simply noticed a considerable gap in Wikipedia's coverage nearly two-years ago and wrote numerous poor articles :-D Incidentally, I moved the Rorqual page and deleted the redirects. Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 21:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Joel, thanks for the help.


 * ... and thanks for writing the RN articles. I've slowly been doing some U.S. military history (and other historical) articles in part to honor the people that served and also to provide a source of information their families can use. That's not a very "encyclopedic" or Wikipedian motivation (perhaps it's "obituarial"), but it keeps me at the keyboard, anyway. Likewise, I know there will be kids somewhere in the U.K. trying to figure out what grandpa did in the RN that will find your articles helpful.--A. B. 21:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Many of these RN articles have been long neglected and desperately need clean up, among other things. But the links are blue/purple and this is a Wiki. They won't be like that forever :-) Being used as a source of information, regardless of whether it's for school, family history, etc., is the very essence of an encyclopaedia, so kudos! SoLando (Talk) 03:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page. I really appreciate it. :) G .<font color="#666666">H  e  20:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * No probs. :-) SoLando (Talk) 03:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

British Army Categories
If you look at the categories, I've kept the current regiments in each list, but removed the regiments that no longer exist back to the old category. Perhaps it would be better to have categories for former cavalry and infantry regiments, and yeomanry regiments as well. Hammersfan 07/06/06, 14.50 BST


 * Reply SoLando (Talk) 13:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No objection in principle to former units being included, however, I think over time it would be a good idea to have a Category:Former British Army infantry regiments and Category:Former British Army cavalry regiments. That's a project for when I have more time though :-P Hammersfan 08/06/06, 16.55 BST


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Userpage vandalism
Thanks for reverting vandalism on my userpage. :) --<font face="arial, helvetica" color="#FF0000">  <font face="Tahoma, helvetica" color="#FF0000">Shizane <font face="Tahoma, helvetica" color="#FF0000">talk<font face="Tahoma, helvetica" color="#FF0000">contribs 00:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * No probs. Anytime! :-) Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 00:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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Michael Bloomberg
Thanks for removing the vandalism that I missed in the Michael Bloomberg article. <font color="DarkGray">... <font color="DarkOrange">disco <font color="DarkOliveGreen">spinster <font color="DarkGray">talk  21:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * No probs. Checking your contribs history, you're certainly not missing vandalism! :-) Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 21:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocking a user
I just wanted to ask you about user 125.236.44.47. This user was vandalizing pages today and I thank you for blocking them and fixing the pages. However, I don't know why they were only temporarily blocked. If you look at their user history, they have been given a "last warning" three times! Just block them permanently; their record more than demonstrates reason. I would also ask that administrators would look at users' histories. This person should definitely have been blocked long ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TK421 (talk • contribs)


 * Hi there! Blocks of ip addresses must be made in accordance with Wikipedia policy, which permits only open proxy and "zombie" ips to be blocked indefintely. For more imformation, pertinent pages are located at Blocking policy and Indefinite blocks. If you encounter any ips vandaliising with an extensive history of abusing Wikipedia's editing privilegese, there is Abuse reports. Not much else one can do, except persevere :-) Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 00:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

battleships
Hi there: I think that you are the original author of the article"List of Battleships of the Royal Navy". I am working through the list, writing articles on the ironclad series. HMS Rupert(1872) does not seem to be on your list, and as a newcomer I can't figure how to edit your list the way that you have left it. Would you care, when the World Cup is finished, to put Rupert in?--Anthony.bradbury 21:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi! The entire content of that article is contained within a number of templates - not good! Templates should not be used in place of actual article content. But that's deviating from your initial query, I apologise. The list relevant to ol' Rupert is located at Template:List of steam battleships of the Royal Navy. I've now transferred the material directly into List of battleships of the Royal Navy. Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 12:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there was a template, and you had to go to the talk page to find the link to it each time you wanted to edit. I don't know how to change that, so if you can, that's good. What does annoy me is people putting things on those battleship pages that don't belong there, and also deleting stuff that SHOULD be there (see german steam battleships for this one). But change it to make it more consistent and to get rid of the templates all you want. thanks :) SpookyMulder 14:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Reply SoLando (Talk) 18:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank SoLando!

 * Congratulations! Wikipedians certainly know how to scope a great admin prospect! Ahem. Have "fun" with the new privileges ;-) And thanks! I desperately hope I'll still be enjoying the break by tommorow :-) SoLando (Talk) 12:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Long talk page
Greetings! Your talk page is getting a bit long in the tooth - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! BD2412 T 00:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I have a strong aversion to empty talk pages :-D I'll make a partial archive after the Czech Republic v Ghana match concludes (come on Ghana!). Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 16:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
I will not edit the liverpool page any more —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.107.63 (talk • contribs)


 * No need to apologise. Why not create an account and edit Wikipedia constructively? I'll add a welcome note to your ip's talk page to introduce you to Wikipedia! SoLando (Talk) 16:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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Hello Remember the dot! I appreciate that you are abiding by process when alerting me, via multiple generic messages, to the impending deletion of images that I have uploaded. But the volume is quite disconcerting as these photographs were uploaded over two-years ago and are consequently of little concern to me. As an administrator, I would personally delete post-1956 images unilaterally and immediately by invoking CSD criterion - but that wouldn't be process (I'm not "rouge" ;-). Pre-1956 material is conceivably public domain for a variety of reasons. If only the copyright status could be definitively determined; principally whether they were produced by an "officer or servant of the Crown". Without appearing irate (and to reach the purpose of this message), would you consider refraining from notifying me that an image I have uploaded is being considered for deletion? That is unless you wish to issue a deletion request. ;-) Regardless of the messages, I commend your efforts as examining so many images must be rather tedious. SoLando (Talk) 00:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


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 * As far as deletion requests, if you're looking for something to do you might want to clear out the 12-day backlog at WP:PUI. —Remember the dot (talk) 20:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Your talk page is very pretty. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong here.

The Liberation of Paris article is completely inappropriate. If you noticed from the talk section, a very aggressive French nationalist removed all all mention of US military units, itself grounds for the POV tag.

He also implies that the Anglo-Americans intended to colonize France with a military government. (It was merely a temporary measure of keeping order. A similar system briefly went into effect in Belgium and the Netherlands.) That's also POV.

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I've added some snippets. Your article is (refreshingly for Wikipedia) tightly written so I had trouble working them in without changing the adjacent sentences. I have kept collateral damage to a minimum. Feel free to pull them around for flow or to discard them altogether. By the way, there's a grisly photograph of Smith in The Times (31 Jul 1922; pg. 12; Issue 43097; col A). You can access their online archive with a library card (speak to your local library, if you don't have one). And, after thought, British-Australian does seem the best way to describe him. Good luck! -- R OGER D AVIES  TALK 00:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


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Thanks for your timely recovery of Music of Israel
I wonder if we need to report this as vandalism? It seems to be a one-off by this particular person, since there are no other edits made from the URL. --Ravpapa (talk) 08:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


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Someone who may interest you
Came across John Joseph Shute as the result of my current "project" to sort references to the London Gazette (a website change has broken many existing links). Thought he might interest you as "Mr King's Liverpool". David Underdown (talk) 16:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for directing me to the article. Quite concise....I wouldn't be inclined to classify it as a stub requiring urgent attention or expansion. I am actually tempted to expand it once I've "completed" (hah!) the recurrent Liverpool Irish project, although as an archetypal Liverpudlian that would oblige me to refrain from informing my Scouse network of Shute's Conservative affiliation ;-). Judging from a cursory glance at GB and Wyrall's history of the King's Regiment, Shute appears to have been an interesting fellow. I'll certainly commit myself to researching the man soon. Thanks again! SoLando (Talk) 21:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It was even more concise before I added the detail of his miltary career and even there the Gazette gives you very much the barebones of what happened, but I susepcted there was quite an intresting story behind that. The timing of his involvemtn with 1st Volunteer Battalion suggests an involvement in the Boer war as well doesn't it? However, it can still be quite piecemeal trying to get info from Gazette searches, the scanning and OCR process means that the indexing doesn't always work out as you might expect as characters get mistranscribed - there must, somewhere be entries for his initial commissioning, and his majority, but I came up blanks on those (and without knowing roughly when they happened it's hard to narrow down the search any other way.  David Underdown (talk) 10:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the delay. Yeah, it's probable that Shute served in South Africa; the 1st Volunteers (5th King's) mobilised a contingent for "active service" in the Boer War. I'm personally unsure whether he accompanied his battalion to South Africa or even served in the war attached to another unit. His promotion to substantive Captain appears to have coincided with the deployment of that contingent. Intriguingly, there was an M.A. Shute who served in South Africa with a regular battalion while attached from the 5th King's (issue 27348)


 * What surprises me is the paucity of information pertaining to his early life as he evidently was a prominent business figure in Liverpool. There's a micro-biography located here and a copyrighted photograph of him here. Oh, and I agree that the Gazette's search facility can still be exceedingly frustrating. I once contacted the Gazette about the issues the original website contended with and received a reply reassuring me that character identification would be improved; i.e. apostrophes would be recognised :-D Shute received his DSO during the First World War; he was a major and second-in-command to John Maxwell McMaster until his succession when the latter apparently returned to England on leave in late 1915 (it's reasonable to assume that age was a factor). SoLando (Talk) 21:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

List of Indian Army Regiments
Hi Solando,

Am a Bombay Sapper and for years I have been contributing with blinkers onto Indian wildlife articles. Just discovered the lists of Indian Army Regiments which you created long ago. Gives me a 'control panel' page to work from, :-). Could you give me the references for these lists please?

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 * Those lists were indeed created an exceptionally long time ago. I suspect the primary source was regiments.org. Hope that's of assistance! :-) SoLando (Talk) 11:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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 * This is the internet - I'm contributing to conspriracy! ;-) SoLando (Talk) 12:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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Editing concerns
Are you ordering me not to edit the pages of criminal Jews? Is it still ok to edit the pages of good Jews? Graham Wellington (talk) 01:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


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How can I continue editing the article with such a disgusting swear word in front of my eyes? Graham Wellington (talk) 21:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


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 * The video contains an interview with Douglass Rushkoff. Why is it inappropriate to include a link to that video within Rushkoff's own biography article? Graham Wellington (talk) 22:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


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wellington
Hi. I noticed you were dealing with him/her, and I appreciate it. I'm also short on time these days; I only get to get go in and go out quickly. But if this garbage (less offensive word ;-)) continues someone will have to drag it to WP:AN. Best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 02:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


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 * Hi. I can't find anything on John Jamelske's ethnic/religous background. "Torah" is just the jewish/hebrew name for the Old Testament, so technically it doesn't make a difference what faith he is. But considering his history, I highly doubt pure intentions. Best, -- brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 00:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
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William Alfred Dimoline
Another one who may interest you slightly, and if any of your sources indicate more precisely when he was awarded the MC it might help persuade the Gazette website to let me find the relavent issue. David Underdown (talk) 13:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I've scoured the first volume of Wyrall's history (1914-1915) and found no mention. Unfortunately, Wyrall's history rarely mentions individual awards, and identifies officers by name usually only when they've become a casualty. I've been contemplating initiating a list of commanding officers and notable Kingsmen for an exceptionally long time. Listy, yes, and I'm sure WP:NOT could be invoked ;-). SoLando (Talk) 15:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I should have said that I'd managed to pin it down to 1918 at least. It's possible that he had actually transferred to the East Surreys by then anyway, so don't worry too much about it.  David Underdown (talk) 16:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I can assure you it wasn't an inconvenience. I've almost realised my "final" version of the Liverpool Irish, so the Shute article could be my next victime! I've actually prepared a rough draft :-). Oh, one issue of the London Gazette suggests that Dimoline had been seconded to another unit by 1916. SoLando (Talk) 16:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * from the Gazettes it's rather difficult to work out what happened to him between 1916-18. He still seems to have been on the King's regimental list for a while, since he was given a regimental captaincy.  Then there's a back-dated entry in a 1920 gazette giving him a second lieutenant's commission in the East Surreys from 1916.  My best guess (rather originl research, but still), was that it was a it of a fiddle to get him a regular commission, rather than a territorial force commission.  His medal card says he was 1/5th King's, but I don't think any of the gazettes spell that out.  David Underdown (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If only the collection of regimental material once stored at the Museum of the King's Regiment was as conveniently accessible as as it was when the MKR was a component of the original and now historical Museum of Liverpool Life. Oh yes, the intricacies of a contemporary officer's career can be confusing and disorientating without a substantive biography detailing the various appointments and promotions. I have a tendency to avoid that veritable minefield unless relevant and unambiguous information is available or the individual was considerate enough to publish an autobiography, such as the delightfully named Charles Harington Harington ;-). SoLando (Talk) 17:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There's also an ODNB article on Harington http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/33712 - it requires subscription, but you'll probably find you can log on using the number from your library card (assuming you have one, and if not you may find it worthwhile purely for the online sources it opens up). David Underdown (talk) 09:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, the Liverpool Central Library will be thrilled to behold my return ;-). I can only assume it is subscribed as I'm convinced it wasn't apparently aware of its entitltement to access the Times' Archive - but that's unreliable without a source! Hopefully I'll frequent the library this weekend. But don't hesitate to contribute to the article, if you're interested and so inclined. Collaboration is still the essence of Wikipedia :-). SoLando (Talk) 10:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll let you flesh out the overall structure of the article first, then see if te ODNB article adds anything, and see what the gazete throws out too. I alos found  couple of passing mentions in Richard Holmes's book Tommy, includign a nice little quote about not being able to tell where Plumer ended and Harington began. David Underdown (talk) 10:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't expect a dramatic expansion tonight, but I'll endeavour to develeop the article into something resembling substance :-) From a cursory glance of his autobiography, he was reasonably travelled ;-). I've noted the relationship between Plumer and Harington in the introduction. If only there was a direct quote. SoLando (Talk) 11:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * One last thing, are you aware that (many of) the original WWI unit war diaries are available online from The National Archives, see . David Underdown (talk) 17:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. To be candid, I was researching some of my relatives and yielded quite interesting information. But that's completely irrelevant ;-). The applicability of a war diary is debatable, IMO. Not because they constitute a primary source, as they would surely only be used to verify indisputable information likes dispositions and movements (and last time I gazed at WP:V, that was still acceptable), but because they've arguably been deprecated (in terms of writing an article) by regimental histories, et al. That has been my personal experience. Admittedly, the history of the King's Regiment and its associates have been exceptionally documented. SoLando (Talk) 18:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou
My sincerest thanks for the barnstar. My radar has recently refocused on the VC lists again. Frankly, it is a bit of a mess at the moment, but I am trying to plough through them and amalgamate them into easy to use lists. It is always nice to be noticed. If you ever need any help, as always, just ask. Thanks again. Woody (talk) 23:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have been thinking about the best way to do that one, probably split into 4 parts. I will try and get the main British ones upto scratch first. It is a long-term goal I think. :) Woody (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think most, if not all recipients have articles. I am currently amalgamating the List of Victoria Cross recipients by unit into national lists such as List of Australian Victoria Cross recipients. The south African list is my next job, after that, merging the Canadian units into the nationality list. Then, hopefully, the by unit list becomes deprecated. After that, probably do the same for List of Victoria Cross recipients by campaign. The number of individual pages is quite exhausting. Woody (talk) 13:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I see you've started on the Aussies, Merci Beaucoup!! Woody (talk) 16:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * We need to decide whether to go with larger regiments in the unit such as Maratha Light Infantry, Canadian Expeditionary Force or more specific such as battalions. My initial opinion is to stick with the larger units, as they will be blue links for the most part. I doubt many battalions will have red links, or will ever be converted into blue links. Woody (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Specific battalions shouldn't necessarily be a problem, in that the vast majority had/have numerical designations. So that would allow for an unformatted rendering or piped links without table clutter, e.g. 6th Maratha Light Infantry. Entirely your discretion :-)SoLando (Talk) 20:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, that looks good, I would go with unpiped at the moment. Woody (talk) 20:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Harington
The main comments on his character are, ‘a spare, highly strung man, with a charming manner and remarkable clarity of vision’, and also the mention that he was deeply religious. I've noted from the original DNB article (as opposed to the current ODNB entry) and an initial delve in the Times archive that he seems to have been involved with Toc H after the war, which bears out the religous aspect. From the later Gazette entries, one of his honorary positions was Commandant of the Army Educational Corps, and he founded and was first president of the Army Sports Control Board whilst he was DCIGS, which bears out the educational aspects. I suspect he was very much a man of his time, stiff upper lip and all, and many deeply ingrained attitudes which do seem rather dated today. He was certainly no yes man, he disobeyed Lloyd-George's instruction to give the Turks an ultimatum over Chanak, probably costing himself the chance of becoming CIGS, but avoiding the strong possibility of naother major war. Times articles also show that he opened a number of war memorials, often in public schools, and again the DNB says he was involved in runign boys' clubs after his retirement from Gibraltar. His involvement in the committee of the MCC also shows him to be a man of his times in many ways. His sporting prowess throws an interesting sidelight on his character and background (from the ODNB), "During these early years, as later, he excelled at all games, especially cricket and hockey, possibly because hunting was beyond his means. When he was in his fifties he swam the Hellespont and back and in his sixties he was still playing high class cricket." So presumably he had no real private income, which still made him something of a rarity in those days so far as the British army was concerned (though William Robertson did manage to rise from private to field marshal and in the cavalry at that). Despite this possible social handicap, he seems to have been very popular around York when he was GOC Northern Command. On his contradictions, other Times articles include quotes about him calling Franco a "Friend of Britain", and as Governor of Gibraltar being quite accomodating to the German Navy when the German pocket battleship Deutschland was attacked by the Spanish republican air force. Don't know if any of this is actually any help. David Underdown (talk) 20:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The parentheses was another attempt at clarification. Saying "the nickname was assigned to him" (or whatever the precise wording was) has grammatical issues since "him" could be taken to be Harrington (with a double-r) since he's been the subject of the sentence up to that point, so I changed the woring to Harington, but then thought the subtlety of the spelling might be overlooked, so to make it completely clear thought it should be pointed out.  Maybe I was worrying unnecessarily, but since even you had managed to type Harrington, rather than Harington, in a later para... David Underdown (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, the double-r would appear to be inexplicably instinctive to many; the error has befallen a few established scholars if GB is to be believed ;-). I've experimented with possible variations and consider the following revision to be a satisfactorily understated alternative:


 * Fellow officers from his battalion assigned Harington the nickname after learning of the conviction of Timothy Charles Harrington, an Irish nationalist and member of parliament, while en route to Aden.


 * Does that revision completely eliminate ambiguity? SoLando (Talk) 17:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * That's probably the best solution. May be worth keeping an html comment in there as well to highlight that there really is supposed to be a difference in spelling.  We perhps ought to start putting these sort of content issues on the article talkpage, where they'll be more visible to others.  David Underdown (talk) 17:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Quite how someone who's "an admin with over 50 000 edits so I understand how referencing works and this one doesn't cut it." referring to a reference in William Denis Browne on a similar topic to that we've just been sorting out on Harington has never come across the ODNB before, let alone so fundamentally misunderstanding WP:V beats me. I've never been so tempted to throw in a link to WP:DICK when talking to someone on Wikipedia.  David Underdown (talk) 15:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh boy, I'm tempted to go back to bed and submit to my cold ;-) Has this been resolved? SoLando (Talk) 15:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well he seems to ahve thrown in the towel on Harington and Denis Browne, and I don't have the time or energy to go through the vast number of edits he's made via AWB to see if he's been equally unthinking on other articles. Still if it means that he finally understands WP:V properly, and has learnt what the ODNB is, there's some gain from it... David Underdown (talk) 15:46, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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I've been thinking very hard about your comment on my talk page a week or so back. Assuming you still think it's good idea (and I really don't mind if you don't), I'd like to go for it. My concern so far is that I'm primarily a content editor, with a bit of dabbling in project organisation (Tag & Assess, for istance) and I wouldn't want that basic mix to change too much. However, I have done vandal-fighting and went through a spell of CSDing from NPP during lulls.

The other thing is to ask whether you fancy cooperating on List of Welsh Victoria Cross recipients to get it to featured list. The basics are there already so it's just adding loads of bells, whistles and references :)

-- R OGER D AVIES  talk 16:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Coincidentally, Woody has just this minute come along with what seems like a better idea for the Welsh VCs so scratch that suggestion!-- R OGER D AVIES  talk 16:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I would encourage pursuit of adminship and would unhesitatingly endorse as a nominator/co-nominator/third nominator, etc. I suspect, however, that I'm not a particularly "glamourous" (!;-) broom handler. Becoming an administrator isn't as profound a change as some might be inclined to believe. Yes, you have access to the various privileges thereof and your status/image/reputation within the community can be fundamentally altered ;-). But unless you proactively pursue as a primary activity the most "demanding" responsibilities - conflict/dispute mediation/resolution, tendentious/disruptive users, et al - content editing, etc can still remain your primary focus. Countering vandalism and moderating new pages, closing AFDs, et al isn't so time consuming that it would be detrimental to your preferred method of contribution. That is unless, like me, you're still burdened with dial up. I hope that was coherent and helpful :-).


 * And here would have existed a second paragraph. ;-) SoLando (Talk) 17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * ... That was very helpful, thanks. My thought, if successful, is to use the tools basically during lulls between regular editing, when I tend to do NPP or RC anyway. I see it really as an extension of that. By the way, how on earth do you manage with dialup? Multi-graphic pages must be a nightmare. -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 17:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with what SoLando says completely, you can let the admin work take over if actively seek it, or you can just carry on as normal but clear out a few backlogs and delete some "teh teacehr is a G*yb*y" pages. ;) I have created User:Woody/Sandbox/Roger for your ramblings SoLando, place them where you want on the page (within reason). When you have answered the questions Roger, and you feel ready, then transclude it. (give me a note when you do, I don't want any of those pesky "beat the nom" supports. :). Woody (talk) 17:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I wonder why is typing "poo" so popular among the vandal classes. I had a, um, run of "poos" a week or so back. It amazed me that they all seemed to think (if that's the right word to use) so much alike.
 * Re the template, I'll do replies off-line in advance and paste it all together when I get back to London on Monday evening. Probably best is if I message you to transclude it. What does "beating the nom" mean, by the way? I've seen it loads of times and always puzzled... -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 17:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Example: First support - beat the nom! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I've resigned myself to not being one of the first two to register support for your nomination :-(
 * Regarding the various manifestations of the destructive editor, I "prefer" the basic form of vandalism. Over three-years ago, before I had become a sysop, I incurred the wrath of a vandal who associated my account name with Star Wars and repeatedly inserted it into various articles. Oh the hilarity. And I have every ambition of discarding dial up before December ;-). SoLando (Talk) 17:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know that it has now been transcluded. :Requests for adminship/Roger Davies Woody (talk) 15:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. I think that his latest comment put it over the top. So, per your suggestion: Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 19:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for clarification on Canadian Irish, have discovered that there was also a non-Canadian Leinster Regiment. Have also just added The Irish Regiment of Canada. See also Irish regiment. I wonder of the Leinster Regiment (Royal Canadians) is correctly or wrongly titled under 16th (Irish) Division ?. Perhaps you have some insight ? Greetings, Osioni (talk) 20:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If I recall correctly, the Leinster Regiment did maintain a relationship to some degree with Canada (or its government), perpetuating the traditions of its predecessor which I believe was formed there. But I'm confident its personnel composition was predominantly Irish, augmented per convention by soldiers from England/Scotland/Wales. Google Books should, reliably as ever, yield the relevant information.
 * Titled? Are you referring to the battalion/regiment's designation or placement within the OOB of the 16th Division? Regards, SoLando (Talk) 23:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:HMS Colossus (Colossus class light fleet carrier).jpg
Since the ship was built in the UK more than 50 years ago there should be some crown copyright pics of it on which the copyright has expired.Geni 17:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Certainly. But until an available PD alternative is identified, that FU image is irreplacable in accordance with WP:FUP and therefore immune from being "botted" (a self-created word......I assume ;-). Unfortunately, there are so few resources online........the most extensively used being the Imperial War Museum's website. Regards, SoLando (Talk) 18:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Realisticaly we know that such an image will exist somewhere. Thus the image is replaceable.Geni 20:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. But until the availability of a policy-compliant image is conclusively established, the aforementioned FU illustration isn't replaceable in the strictest sense as the existence of a PD alternative is purely hypothetical despite the high probability. I'm not particularly surprised by the apparent scarcity of images of Colossus explicitly licensed under Crown Copyright: she/it (-) was in commission for just two-years. Regards, SoLando (Talk) 21:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi there Joel, in answer to the first question, no. There is no formalised struture or review system. It is given out occasionally to articles such as James Milner which isn't FA standard, but it is better then GA. I think the project as a whole is going for FAs now. We do have a burgeoning list of Featured content. The Villa Featured Topic is almost done now, one history at FAC and about to have one at FLC. I would be happy to help with any Liverpool ones, it is my second club after all. With regards to Harington, good work, I have given it project banner tags on the talk page. I seem to have neglected the VC lists after getting one through FLC. I will work on the Irish ones next I think! Woody (talk) 15:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 15:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have currently got "campaigns" under construction in my sandbox, but I reckon I could get the table for the Irish one done at the weekend. Don't worry about the tagging, most of the RN ships in my watchlist popped up during the drive as N (assessed for WPMILHIST)!!!
 * The Footy project has been going through steady revamping for a while now. I revamped the main page a while back and there are several MoS's now in place and standardised navboxes etc. That and the featured content output is up incredibly in the last year.!! Hopefully we can add a few more Liverpool ones to that list... Woody (talk) 15:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 15:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The tables are easy enough to create, just need a good source, and a bit of freetime. I have got one lined up for the Irish list and my CTRL+C and CTRL+V fingers ready to go. I suggested a standalone review bit a while back, but most people said they didn't want to be removed from the current peer review process (though PR has changed since I suggested that). Good old Berger, Villa player extraordinaire! I am thinking about taking a VC recipient upto FA, just don't know which one yet. Woody (talk) 16:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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Criticism
Hey! Why are you repeatedly changing my contributions (to the articles Armenian National Committee of America, David Mayer de Rothschild, and Bilderberg Group), and saying that I don't provide references and reliable sources? I have provided 5 sources on each of them, so don't try to cover up the truth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.229.25.221 (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Cover up the truth? Wikipedia is indeed a website, but it isn't a vehicle for conspiracy/minority theory and personal opinion. What you consider truth can be, and is, perceived as minority theory (at a diplomatic minimum!). Policy is intrinsic to the project and each article is required to comply with the relevant content policies that I and others have directed you to on your talk page (WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:NPOV being the most pertinent, and apologies for the alphabet soup!) Your "sources" are unreliable and your additions inherently partisan and, to be candid, disreputable. Your contributions will continue to be reverted if your edits are in violation of policy. Regards, SoLando (Talk) 14:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Berger et al
Hey there SoLando, I should be free this weekend to have a butchers at Berger. I will also go at the Irish recipients list. I haven't had a free weekend in February to get some serious editing in. Though I did manage to get History of Aston Villa (1961-present) to FA. I will see whether I can find any good sources. There was some recent comment about a move as well. Hope all is good. RegardsWoody (talk) 17:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

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Irish VC recipients and thanks
Hi there SoLando, thought you would be interested to know that List of Irish Victoria Cross recipients is up and running. I have completed the basic structure. There are some sortable issues that will need to be fixed, and I haven't completed the units but it is getting there! A little thanks for your support at the MilHist elections, I am now a coordinator, more backlogs to clear! I will have a look at Berger now. Hope all is good. Woody (talk) 21:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Woody! Congratulations on the successful election. I'm now investigating whether those red links can be converted into redirects :-). I wonder how accurate it would be to redirect Cape Police to the modern incarnation of the country's law enforcement organisation, the South African Police Service? Regards, SoLando (Talk) 21:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, not very accurate in my opinion. That article does not not discuss anything since apartheid and as such isn't related to the Cape Police, part of the South African Forces during the Second Boer War. I am ploughing through the other units, most have redirects available. Regards Woody (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely true, but the article for its Apartheid-era predecessor has......problems. Ahem ;-). I was hoping there would be an article on Law enforcement in South Africa. Instead, it redirects to the South African Police Service which has no history section. I was intending to fill in some of the blanks but you're probably in the process of doing that. Keep at it :-). Regards, SoLando (Talk) 22:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Filling in blanks but leaving the posthumous stuff to another day! Woody (talk) 22:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Blanks filled now and the Lead is growing. I am now wondering whether to expand it above those who were born in Ireland. This page (now redirected) is actually quite good at providing rough numbers for it. This reference also has them listed, as do the National archives. What I am wondering is, do we expand the current narrow scope to include naturalised recipients to follow the format of the other lists? Woody (talk) 21:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If it's verifiable: absolutely. Were Johnson Beharry to apply and be approved for British citizenship, I would imagine that would be accommodated on the list by nationality. I hope I've understood your question correctly. I had a blood rush when I encountered this!!!!!!!!. I just couldn't resist the urge to respond :-/. Regards, SoLando (Talk) 21:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thought so, am working on it now. That stub looks good! Need a few more now! (Hint hint). I am going to try and complete the list today and go for posthumous tommorrow. I think all the sortable issues have now been fixed. Woody (talk) 21:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I reckon we can pipe/redirect most of the Bengal ones to Bengal Regiment for the time being. Thoughts? Woody (talk) 22:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No objections as most of these regiments wouldn't be viable as independent articles. With some attention, it could eventually function as a "hub" that just might facilitate growth for potential articles. Great work! SoLando (Talk) 22:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike. That wee stub intrigued me and I might make it one of my pet-projects! Woody (talk) 22:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. I'll be there if assistance is sought - and even if it isn't ;-). SoLando (Talk) 22:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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I'm off for two weeks over Easter and I have just realised that I have left an FLC open. List of Victoria Cross recipients of the Royal Navy is up and frankly, I don't think there should be many problems. The only one is whether to include ranks or not. Your opinion on that would be much appreciated. If you don't have enough time to take it on, then please just ignore me! Regards, Woody (talk) 12:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Now on my watchlist :-). I've commented at the FLC. Hope the two weeks are stress-free and enjoyable :-). Don't mention the Arsenal ;-). SoLando (Talk) 16:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

7th Infantry Division (Pakistan) issue
I am hoping that this get resolved pretty soon and the article improved on one of the most important formations of the campaign in Burma, and the Indo-Pak Wars. I am of the opinions that mrg3105's arguments have no merit and this should be resolved asap preferably with a mergeing.58.65.163.248 (talk) 11:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussion should be centralised at the AFD. I too am seeking a resolution and, like all participants irrespective of position, am hopeful that can be achieved without discord. SoLando (Talk) 11:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Stig Inge Bjornebye
Hi, I've reviewe the article and put it on hold, as the issues I have are only minor, only other gripe is there is no image, i'm sure you could find one at flickr's creative commons, but this is not required for the article to pass. Hapy editing NapHit (talk) 18:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing that article. I'll examine and respond to it soon. SoLando (Talk) 18:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Flow
Will they make the article "flow" for me then, or will I still have to do that? I just find it so confusing lol <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="Blue">4314    (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 21:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sweet, I'll put in a request a little later tonight maybe, it feels a bit like cheating though. But Wikipedia is comminity project, working 2getha n all that.
 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 21:52, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course not, although I'm gonna make 1 last set of major changes right before I put the request in (just remembered i need to add some more info), but I'll put a notice up on the talk page when I do it, about why. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="Blue">4314    (talk) 21:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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re: Woody's BCAD
There certainly wouldn't be any objections from me and as you two sometimes seemed joined at the hip, I don't suppose there'll be any from himself either :) -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 19:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * People often mention BCAD assessment but there's no official form of words. Thanks :) -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 19:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The test is whether it answers questions that the general reader will pose. This means it covers, say in battle terms, who fought, where, when, how many on either side, and who won. In reality, if nothing really blindingly obvious is missing, pass it. The wording for the criterion does need improving. Any thoughts would be welcome. -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 20:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You may find this helpful. -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 20:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right. It's what the lawyers call the fruit of a rotten tree. If the article isn't sufficiently sourced, you can't make a reasonable judgement about accuracy and comprehensiveness. Other editors are being tough about B1 and that's absolutely the right course of action. -- R OGER D AVIES   talk 20:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Let's talk about specific text changes. What do you specifically propose? In the meantime, assess as you think best. I have ever confidence in your sound judgement and level head :) -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 20:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Random Hi
Thank you for the kind words. Being off the site for school is the best thing for me, but it kills me a little inside each day I know I am not on here. I am glad to hear you like my contributions, I try my best to entice people to read the articles I write, especialy if they do not usually cruise through the particular area. Judging from what you said, I must be doing something right :) TomStar81 (Talk) 07:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

B-class criteria
For your information, I raised the B-class issues we've been discussing, along with others, here :) -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 09:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, I'll go review the discussion. Thank you :-). SoLando (Talk) 17:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's very brief. You can comment there yourself, you know :) Non-coordinators aren't banned or nuffink. -- R OGER D AVIES  talk
 * I'm ashamed to say it, but I slept in for much of Monday and Tuesday. Damn, I shouldn't disclose these things :-D. I'll muse on whether I can bring anything additional to the discussion. I really appreciate you raising the issue. Thanks, Roger :-) SoLando (Talk) 12:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * When I was a student, my father always used to accuse of leaping out of bed with a glad cry at the crack of noon :) -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 13:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha. These truly are the days of glory ;-). SoLando (Talk) 13:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

At Liberty to troll
Haha, well thanks for the note of appreciation. I actually had decided that I'm an ass for responding, and for jabbing back; I almost responded without a petty shot, but I didn't clear that hurdle entirely.

I'm glad you're out there as an enforcer. I revert two or three times, then I start to picture a giggling spastic 12-year old on the other end, lose interest, and move on. Cheers, DBaba (talk) 17:21, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Warn yourself for misrepresenting history.
And keep up with self admiration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilinski (talk • contribs) 17:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


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 * Thank you, Roger! Judging by the list you've compiled at MHC, I'm honoured to be in such great company :-). To be candid, I haven't contributed to many reviews.....so I'm surprised :-D. That can be attributed to procrastination and err...."other things"....really! ;-) Anyway, ironmongery is always welcome! Really appreciated. SoLando (Talk) 07:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hey there SoLando, lots of Victoria Cross going on today! Victoria Cross is on the main page as TFA, (and has survived a few attacks), List of Irish Victoria Cross recipients is up at FLC and I have started the Indian Army one. It is there where I am in need of some input. Do you think that it should be default sort by Unit (as in the Navy list) or by name (as in the other lists)? Now I have to go try and find articles for those red-links! Warm Regards. Woody (talk) 18:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, Woody. Welcome back! Congratulations on the FA, FL, FA, FL! :-D There've been a few missed opportunities to revert the vandalism. Blame it on the dial-up (still!). Monitoring main page TFAs is impossible at times :-/. Have you completed your BCAD range?
 * As the recipients are the primary focus of these VC lists, the table should probably be organised by name. Oh, do you have access to a newspaper archive(s)? I've been expanding HMS Liverpool (C11) but the paucity of available information on the ship's post-war activities is...noticeable. I've been intending to take advantage of the library's subscription to the Times archive but, per convention, have been repeatedly distracted. Regards, SoLando (Talk) 18:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I've got access to archives. I will take a look for you. The newish Military Logistics page has a few other people listed who have access as well for future reference. Yep, got the BCAD range done, slightly depressing how badly referenced most of them were!
 * The TFA had a concerted attack early this morning, even got protected, but thankfully it has been quiet. Always nice when no-one criticises the article!
 * I will do it by name, you are right, does seem strange to have it by unit given the intended focus of the list. Once I have done the Indian Army, onto the Scots! Regards. Woody (talk) 19:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be appreciated! My original intention was to submit a request but I convinced myself that I'd get round to utilising the library's subscription by now :-D. Predictably, circumstances have precluded that.
 * There've been a number of FAs which have usually been magnets for targeted vandalism only to almost "ignored" while featured on the main page. So be proud! ;-). SoLando (Talk) 20:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It does feel strange to go to the main page and see an article you have worked on right in front of you.
 * In terms of articles on the Liverpool, paucity is the right word. I am having trouble trying to find anything. I have checked the times archive and found 3 articles. One you have listed, one I have added, the other one is virtually a duplicate of the first one. I searched the Times digital archive 1785-1985 for H.M.S [AND] Liverpool, HMS [AND] Liverpool, Liverpool [AND] Navy. Can you think of anything else? Most of the other archives ar only active from 1990. Woody (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That is surprising! I had anticipated there'd be greater coverage, as Liverpool functioned as flagship at some stage in its deployment. Perhaps "Liverpool Cruiser", "Liverpool Mediterranean", and "Liverpool flagship". Can you verify that Liverpool transported Mountbatten to Yugoslavia in 1951? I've yet to identify an adequately reliable source for it. I'm really grateful for your support and the information you've added. What can I possibly say that could convey that via text? :-D SoLando (Talk) 00:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Harington II
I originally created Harington's article as a stub for a name I saw mentioned in an old newspaper article. Since then, you've turned it into a beautiful article in a very short time period - my congratulations. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 21:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 06:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, if you're that interested it means I can entice you to come over to Wikisource and help collect Public Domain texts written by and about Harington! I see the New York Times has this beautiful profile and this news story that would make absolutely splendid additions to both The New York Times and s:Author:Charles Harington Harington! Trust me, you'll like it over there, ten times the fun and a tenth the drama of WP! Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 07:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 07:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

HMS Cardiff "A" review
Hi, as a former contributor to HMS Cardiff's peer review, I thought you maybe interested to see I've nominated the article for an "A" class review [Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/HMS Cardiff (D108) here]. Don't feel pressured to vote, a mere comment on the articles progress (or lack of) since you last night would be muchly appreciated. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314   (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reminding me. I've been distracted of late and was unable to devote any time to copyediting the article. Prose "experts" should be relieved! ;-) SoLando (Talk) 15:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL thanks for looking after me (re the edit correcting the conversions). <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 20:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No probs. The article is grrrreat and really does have the potential to attain FA status. I've been reluctant to support the article because of the number of edits I've made to the page. But I will :-). SoLando (Talk) 20:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WOW, do you actually think it could make FA!? I've been worrying that there isn't enough data/text to make the grade. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 20:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! There isn't an established, recommended minimum size. So long as comprehensiveness is demonstratative and the article adheres to FA criterion, the length of HMS Cardiff shouldn't impair the prospect of promotion. WP:TROP has produced "small" FAs and an FA which I was the primary contributor to is of comparable size. Roger Davies and Woody were instrumental in its promotion (Featured article candidates/Issy Smith). If the availability of sources is limited and there are no omissions, glaring or otherwise, that can't be addressed because of a paucity of reliable sources, then the article would likely be judged to be comprehensive under those conditions. SoLando (Talk) 21:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OIC, that's great about the Issy Smith article. The A-class review has given me a great list of things to tackle. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 06:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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Milhist's new drive – Tag & Assess 2008 – goes live on April 25 and you are cordially invited to participate. This time, the task is housekeeping. As ever, there are awards galore, plus there's a bit of friendly competition built-in, with a race for bronze, silver and gold wikis! You can sign up, in advance, here. I look forward to seeing you on the drive page! All the best, -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 13:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)




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I was wondering if you would be interested in this

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I have added to it. Would love to have your imput. I feel that the articles on "military basics" such as the linked one are in need of improvement.

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 * Hey there. The article definitely needs extensive work; unsourced and sparse in its content (that could be addressed by splitting off the list and converting the section into prose; summary style?). I do have an interest and will contribute if there's an opportunity to do so. In saying that, would be the ideal person to approach (and consider sounding out other interested editors at the MILHIST project). SoLando (Talk) 22:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hmmm that's interesting. Colledge indicates seven commissioned HMS Liverpools and another (the fourth) being ordered but later cancelled before being launched. I've altered the list page to indicate this, and since this is in keeping with the RN website I think we've cleared up the discrepancy. Does this look all right? Benea (talk) 13:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Let me clarify your query about the Imaum (ex-Liverpool). The ship concerned was NOT an East Indiaman, but was built in 1826 at Bombay for His Highness the Imaum of Muscat, and was in his service named the Liverpool. In 1836 she was given as a present by the Imaum of Muscat to HM King William IV, who handed her over to the Royal Navy when she arrived at Portsmouth on 23 February 1836. As there was a Liverpool already in the RN, she was renamed HMS Imaum on entry into the RN. Thus the RN website is correct in saying that she was never called HMS Liverpool, but Jim Colledge is also correct in identifying her as "ex-Liverpool", since that was her name in the service (1826-1836) of Muscat. See the entry on page 101 of my Sail and Steam Navy List. Rif Winfield (talk) 12:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


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Hello, this is a generic message, as a contributor to a previous review of HMS Cardiff, you may be interested to know that I plan to submit her for an FA review. Would you mind taking a quick look at the article and letting me know if you think it's ok, would be muchly appricated, cheers. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314   (talk) 13:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Do me a favour plz mate, can u close Cardiff's peer review so I can nominate her for FA! Cheers, <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 17:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about my unresponsiveness. I haven't been particularly active; a "severe" cold has really curtailed my editing. I'll check the article out later and see how it's improved. My fingers are firmly crossed for a successful FAC :-). SoLando (Talk) 09:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated mate. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * How do u think the FAC is going so far, any advice? <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 13:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Furthering a question I asked here, will my FAC be "archived" if no adds a bold Support tag? <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314    (talk) 18:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I recall that an FAC can be "restarted" by or  without being formally archived. I rarely frequent FACs (I never feel I have enough time to review an article to support or oppose) so if you're unsure just ask one of the aforementioned users. I do hope the FAC generates more interest (of course, supports). SoLando (Talk) 19:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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I've listed this for speedy deletion, Julin Szukalak but it might be best if you do the deed, since you won't be taken in by the claims about this supposed VC recipient. I'll copy this to Solando as well. I haven't yet warned the creator of the article, but that probably ought to be done as well. David Underdown (talk) 11:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Big favour
Hi Joel. Can you please do me a big favour and cast your eye over Brian Horrocks? Roger Davies has suggested it needs an experienced editor to give the copy a "prune". Will you have a little time to spare? It's not a problem if you're busy. Cheers. Leithp 06:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad you're giving it a crack, Joel. My comments are at the A-Class review. Thanks, -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 16:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated! Leithp 16:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
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User talk:24.27.151.226
Hello. Just curious as to why you keep reverting User talk:24.27.151.226. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This ip belongs to a group of trolls/vandals which have engaged in a disruptive campaign racist and anti-semitic in nature. The ips have all been blocked for 3 months because of disruption and harassment. They've repeatedly blanked their talk pages when blocked, regardless of whether they're blanking warnings, ip identification, or block notices. While it is a common courtesy to leave anon' talk pages blank, I feel the length of the block and contrib' history merits retention. Regards SoLando (Talk) 22:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the info. I was the previous admin to block this IP, and I figured there had to be a good reason why we were not letting the IP remove messages from its talk page as per the WP:USER guideline.  Thanks again, Kralizec! (talk) 12:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No doubt the racist editor behind the IP just sees all this as the result of a Zionist conspiracy ... but I have to wonder how exactly he or she reconciles my Pastafarianism and Secular humanist beliefs with Judaism. --Kralizec! (talk) 01:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Jewish Russian-American Regina Spector in the biography lead
Hi there. Thanks for the note, but I respectfully continue to find your deletion, and the reasoning behind it, unsupported by a rational reading of either the article or WP:NAMES (which is technically a redirect as things stand now, but I read the recommendation it pointed to thoroughly anyway, the first time you alluded to it in the edit summary).

Regina Spektor would not have become and American un-folk singer, or even an anglophone, had her family not been Jewish and she, Russian-born, Russian-resident, through her early childhood. Her entire output and life path both owe their course to her Jewish-Russian ethnicity no less than, to use your example, the African-American Collin Powell. Perhaps you don't realize this, but contemporary Russians don't emmigrate as a rule from Russia. Russian Jews do, however, and this is why they are disproportionally represented in the Russian diaspora in the USA and Israel, or more generally, in the world. This alone suffices to inject her ethnicity into the lead.

If you find the clarity of the article wanting on this score, kindly edit that to your satisfaction, but please don't obliterate it in the lead. To me, the article is clear enough. Two experienced editors, well-versed in the subject matter, already took issue with your removal of exact characterization quoted the title of this section/missive. Accordingly, I think you really have no basis for insisting on your edit. And, the Wikipedia guidance page you would have us study, calls itself just a recommendation, and is meant to help readability, not hinder it. I suggest that it is trumped in this case by another Wikipedia rule, that of applying common sense. Furthermore, I have already returned this text more than once to the lead, usually on account of vandalism, and I intend to see to it that it stays there, even if it takes a Request for Comment process, which, I think, would be gross overkill, because the issue is a no-brainer.

In sum, the article does state the circumstances of her family's emigration, the circumstance of her religious/ethnic-based upbringing and schooling, and anyone even remotely acquainted with the sources used in the article, let alone her music and statements she has made on record [sic], would immediately perceive that the lead-emphasized ethnicity of this notable person is central to her artistic output, and in that capacity, to her notablity. Best Wishes, --Mareklug talk 12:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 16:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Please actually read the sources provided in the article (there are many), or read the text of the article, and you will see that her ethnic origin as a Russian Jew is central to her life and work. Badagnani (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. SoLando (Talk) 22:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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Can I get another favour and aske you to cast your eye over Brian Horrocks again? The FAC seems to have halted on the thorny field of criteria 1A. I'm obviously blind to the problems, so I'd be grateful if I could borrow your eagle eyes.... Leithp 14:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * I removed the tag, as frankly, it was incredibly wrong. Woody (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Woody. No need for the notification, then ;-). SoLando (Talk) 15:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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It wasn't incorrect, I fixed it! ;) Someone uploaded a copyvio on commons and replaced the image in the article. It was then swiftly deleted on commons and delinked from the article, leaving a nice hole, which I then replaced by reverting all the recent changes. Job done. Hope all is good. Woody (talk) 13:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


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 * I presume you mean the 1(a) opposes? Whilst I personally see the use of commas as a personal thing, and not an obligation like Tony, the comments by Jrp are all actionable. The only way to pass FAC now is to find an extraordinary copyeditor, I will try and look for one... Woody (talk) 14:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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Specify level of copy-editing
Hi SoLando

Could you please specify your level of copy-editing for the military history project here.

These are the levels:
 * 1) Copy-edit lite: basic proof-reading, spellchecking, punctuation.
 * 2) English variant conversion: for example, from American English to Commonwealth English, or vice versa.
 * 3) Naturalising: copy-edit for editors whose English is fluent but not perfect.
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If you've a mo
Could you take a look at Henry Chadwick (theologian). I've done quite a lot of work on it recently, and was half-thinnking of putting up for GA. Rather outside your normal area of expertise I know, but that might be a good thing, as I may well have assumed to much. David Underdown (talk) 14:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have an area of expertise? ;-) Very tight, clear article. I've been somewhat sleep deprived of late so I'll limit my edits, at least for the moment. SoLando (Talk) 14:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well all the obits seemed to agree that he was a good egg (though the Troygraph one seemed to have a bit of anti-Anglican streak, I'd love to know who wrote it), the quote I used was picked up by the NYT and Le Monde (so far as I can work out with my French) obits, so it seemed fair game. I'll change "expertise" to "contribution" above if you want...  Thanks, even if you did chop out the bits of wording I liked best! David Underdown (talk) 15:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but facts present themselves without the need for modifiers. Ok, I might accept occasional expertise ... hah. Hmm, the Telegraph seems to have been very positive towards a fair number of expired Liverpool players, so I'm not going to complain :-D. I might return to the article after I've replenished the expended energy unless someone else delves in. Cue sinister, incidental music. SoLando (Talk) 16:14, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, could you do me a favour, could you look at the history on the Lynx article please. Some guy keeps removing a fact tag I added to piece of text an IP added that says;

"A flight of either AAC or RM Lynx AH.7s are based at Basra Air Station under command of the Joint Helicopter Force (Iraq) on a rotational basis, but are restricted operationally during the Summer months due to the very high daytime temperatures which affect lifting capacity and endurance dramatically."

I've bolded the bits that initially raised my concern. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314   (talk) 19:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


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I don't know what your final destination for this article is, FA, GA, etc, but I would like to encourage you to take the article as far up the chain as you are comfortable. Also, please do not forget about the A-Class review system at WP:MILHIST when the time comes (between GA and FA). -MBK004 02:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! Yes, FA is, ideally, the ultimate objective. The article is tantalisingly close to....completion (although when is an article on Wikipedia ever so? :-). Perhaps it should have reached its current stage of development last year but my contributions (both content and administrative) have been very sporadic since 2008. I really appreciate the encouragement and it's so reassuring to see MILHIST appear to still be a bastion of calm and stability. Cheers! SoLando (Talk) 02:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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Long time no talk, don't know if you're about at the moment, but I notice that User:Tsange has just nominated Liverpool Scottish for GA. I've just straightened out the info on Chavasse a bit, but doubtless there'll be other queries. David Underdown (talk) 17:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey! Thanks for the heads-up. I'll examine the outstanding issues and see if I can address them. SoLando (Talk) 06:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Before you answer, please check out the hullabaloo goin down here and here. Until now I thought I knew what a dreadnought is. Your thoughts on the matter would be most appreciated.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk) 13:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


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LIst of Indian Army regiments 1903 and 1922
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Liverpool Scottish
Hi i noticed by searching through page archives that you originally added text to the Liverpool Scotish page. Could you help out be addeding sources to the text. (It can be found on the talk page [Talk:Liverpool_Scottish#1918_section|here].


 * Hey. No problem. I should have "finished" - gotta love those oxymorons - that article a long time ago. I suspect I have an incomplete, referenced revision of that section lurking somewhere in the recesses of my computer. If not, I'll hopefully be able to prepare a new version by the end of the day....but I can't promise anything :-p. I've been consumed by distraction after distraction, and the weather is not being supportive! SoLando (Talk) 06:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Re King's Regiment Image
Hi Solando, i've found this image on Commons described as being the King's Own Royal Regiment but i think it might actually be King's Regiment? What do you think? Know you look after the King's Regiment page so you might be able to use it. Tristan benedict (talk) 11:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey! Thanks for the heads-up. Quite a few publications often produced really bizarre variations of the regiment's actual title...even the regiment was unsure about its pre-1921 designation: whether it was "King's (Liverpoool Regiment) or King's (Liverpool) Regiment. Bah :-P. It seems more than likely that the illustration does indeed depict the King's. I honestly couldn't be less certain about its accuracy, however - not just the superficial discrepancies, which are understandable for an idealised portrayal of a 19th Century battle.
 * Still, it would be an awesome addition to the 8th Foot page as there's as much a scarcity of images as there are sources. Happy editing. SoLando (Talk) 20:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi again SoLando. Its most likely to be the 8th Foot. The 4th King's Own were in Portsmouth in 1878 . Harry Payne's original title for the painting doesn't include the name of the regiment, but if you look at the actual battle, the heights of Peiwar Kotal are in the centre of the battlefield and were stormed by the 8th Foot and the 5th Punjab Infantry . Hopefully this helps even more because i reckon this painting would look great on the 8th Foot page, a very cool painting. Wish there was something like this for the Yorks and Lancs! Tristan benedict (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * My mistake; after studying the battle more closely the Heights were taken by the 8th Foot only, so i reckon the image on Commons can be renamed? Tristan benedict (talk) 09:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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