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Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions
Hello Andrevan,

I’m reaching out as part of a Cornell University academic study investigating the potential for user-facing tools to help improve discussion quality within Wikipedia discussion spaces (such as talk pages, noticeboards, etc.). We chose to reach out to you because you have been highly active on various discussion pages.

The study centers around a prototype tool, ConvoWizard, which is designed to warn Wikipedia editors when a discussion they are replying to is getting tense and at risk of derailing into personal attacks or incivility. More information about ConvoWizard and the study can be found at our research project page on meta-wiki.

If this sounds like it might be interesting to you, you can use this link to sign up and install ConvoWizard. Of course, if you are not interested, feel free to ignore this message.

If you have any questions or thoughts about the study, our team is happy to discuss! You may direct such comments to me or to my collaborator, Cristian_at_CornellNLP.

Thank you for your consideration.

--- Jonathan at CornellNLP (talk) 18:05, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the invitation, but I'm not interested. Andre🚐 18:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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Definitions of fascism
Hello, I noticed that you recently removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.-69.119.175.33 (talk) 01:48, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Actually, you removed content. Andre🚐 01:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

I simply relocated it to "others", that's not removal. You proceeded to then undo my edit, THAT is removal. - 69.119.175.33 (talk) 01:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * No, you removed content on eugenics. And of course Umberto Eco is a scholar. I've reported you to AN3 for editwarring. Andre🚐 01:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

I wrote that I un-did the edit to the most neutral version. You are wrong, again. And no, Eco is not a scholar. -69.119.175.33 (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Eco is a "Italian medievalist, philosopher, semiotician, novelist, cultural critic, and political and social commentator." Regardless, your WP:BOLD edits were not supported by consensus and were reverted, you must seek consensus on talk to remove that long-standing material, not edit war. Andre🚐 01:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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Godzilla
Excellent points made here!, little Man with Van! Bishzilla good friends with Cousin Godzilla. No kowtowing to private company's aggressive copyright claims! [''Bishzilla, whose vocabulary is already extensive thanks to wordsmyth.net, makes special note of "kowtow". Fine word, use often!]  bishzilla''  ROA R R! !   pocket 14:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC).


 * Bishzilla, always glad to hear from you. It does not surprise me at all that "kowtow" is not a word in your vocabulary! But now you can use it to remind people not to do it. Never change, 'zilla! Andre🚐 17:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Happy result!
. Amid so much unpleasantness on Wikipedia, what a lovely result it is to see this. I felt that it should happen, but I had no confidence that it would. A small victory for things working the way that they are supposed to on Wikipedia. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Wow! Wasn't expecting it, but always glad to see it. Andre🚐 17:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Nov 15: WikiWednesday Salon + Wikimedia NYC Executive Director job
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Broken ref on Anton Margaritha
Hello! You added a new file to the page in this edit but the named reference is broken. I had a look through the linked pages but couldn't find any source with. BeReasonabl (talk) 10:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Fixed, sorry! Andre🚐 10:40, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Biden's op-ed in the Washington Post
for any Arabic-fluent talk page stalkers, I'm curious how this translates. رأي|جو بايدن: الولايات المتحدة لن تتراجع أمام تحدي بوتين وحماس It's supposed to say the US won't back down from the challenge of Putin and Hamas. I suspect there is some interesting nuance on how this was written out Andre🚐 21:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Lichens
Hi Andrevan; welcome to the lichen task force! It's great to see a new editor getting involved. Feel free to ping any of us if you have questions. By the way, we're voting on the subject for our first collaboration article here, if that's something you might be interested in helping with. Otherwise, dive in! There is loads to do. ;) MeegsC (talk) 21:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, MeegsC. I don't know how much exactly lichen work I'll be doing or when, but I definitely want to keep apprised and offer what help I can, though I am not a lichen expert or any kind of biological scientist or conservationist, just an enthusiastic amateur. Moss is another great and underdeveloped topic critically important to climate change and to air quality! Andre🚐 23:50, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think only one of us is really a lichen expert. The rest of us are all just enthusiastic amateurs as well. :) MeegsC (talk) 09:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Iennes (talk) 07:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * I haven't edit warred, no. I made one revert. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 07:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

1RR
You have violated the 1RR at 2023 Israel–Hamas war, in addition to making nakedly partisan and tendentious edits. Please self-revert your latest change or you will be reported.  nableezy  - 09:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, you have already declined to self-revert above, so Ill be reporting it now.  nableezy  - 09:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Where did I violate 1RR? I made one revert. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 09:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:AE.  nableezy  - 09:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Utter BS and bad faith. No attempt at reconciliation or understanding of an innocent error that was immediately fixed. I doubt Nableezy would appreciate being treated in the same manner the next time they make an error. They have now created a karma debt they will likely be forced to pay at some point in the future when they reveal they are not perfect. I have commented at AE. -- Valjean (talk) ( PING me ) 20:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It is extremely disappionting that Admins are not actively watching and engaging on these topics where some editors appear to be NOTHERE pursuing a deeply held personal POV. I am struck by how well the editing environment and interpersonal culture has developed in American Politics where only a few (impatient) newbies tend to get so upset with disussions of NPOV, BLP, etc.  Some of the current mideast editors include personal attacks and denial of policy in nearly every post on the talk pages and don't even bother to address calmly stated concerns of editors whose editorial opinions differ from theirs.<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b> talk 21:55, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Are you referring the the Team Blue AP2 editors?  nableezy  - 22:08, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Editors aren't on teams, if people choose to see the world that way, so be it. Reality has a well-known left-wing bias. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 22:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you haven't seen it, check out the Noam Chomsky article and talk. A 100 year old man, one of the most famous and notable public thinkers for decades, and suddenly an editor claims that some past thougths of Chomsky about Israel were overlooked but meet WEIGHT after all these years to the contrary.<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b> talk 21:58, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think I can edit impartially about Noam Chomsky, because I love him deeply. But I may leave a comment on the talk. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 22:33, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Oh really, you're inviting me to NPP? :-) I'm so flattered. Is this random? Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 01:28, 18 December 2023 (UTC)