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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
 * An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections.  and  are reserve commissioners.

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 * The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
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 * Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like or.

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WikiCup 2022 November newsletter
The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski (1752 points), who won in 2020 and was runner up in both 2019 and last year. In the final round he achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on cue sports. He was closely followed by
 * Bloom6132 (1732), who specialised in "In the news" items and DYKs, and who has reached the final round of the Cup for the past three years. Next was
 * ICS Zulu.svg BennyOnTheLoose (1238), another cue sports enthusiast, also interested in songs, followed by
 * Muboshgu (1082), an "In the news" contributor, a seasoned contestant who first took part in the Cup ten years ago. Other finalists were
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie (930), who scored with a featured article, good articles and DYKs on TV and radio stations,
 * 🇺🇳 Kavyansh.Singh (370), who created various articles on famous Americans, including an FA on Louis H. Bean, famed for his prediction of election outcomes. Next was
 * PCN02WPS (292), who scored with good articles and DYKs on sporting and other topics and
 * Z1720 (25) who had DYKs on various topics including historic Canadians.

During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski wins the featured article prize, for a total of 6 FAs during the course of the competition and 3 in the final round.
 * 🇺🇳 Kavyansh.Singh wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 2.
 * Pirate Flag of Jack Rackham.svg Adam Cuerden wins the featured picture prize, for 39 FPs during the competition.
 * Z1720 wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 35 FARs in round 4.
 * Epicgenius wins the good article prize, for 32 GAs in round 1.
 * Flag of Provo, Utah (1989–2015).svg SounderBruce wins the featured topic prize, for 4 FT articles in round 1.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski wins the good topic prize, for 34 GT articles in round 5.
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie wins the good article reviewer prize, for 71 GARs overall.
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie wins the Did you know prize, for 30 DYKs in round 3 and 106 overall.
 * Bloom6132 wins the In the news prize, for 106 ITNs in round 5 and 289 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January and possible changes to the rules and scoring are being discussed on the discussion page. You are invited to sign up to take part in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to have a good turnout for the 2023 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners and finalists, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Ready to be Archived
Hi @Another Believer, the discussion we have resolved are ready to be archived. And this too, when you have finished the archiving process. — ( talk ) 20:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I've arched some of the resolved sections already. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: October 2022
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Proposed deletion of Chengdu Taste


The article Chengdu Taste has been proposed for deletion. The proposed deletion notice added to the article should explain why.

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Proposed deletion of Skinner Building (Seattle)


The article Skinner Building (Seattle) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Redundant to 5th Avenue Theatre, which already describes the building's details adequately."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Nice work
Hey, good to see you getting some international credit for your work (for those who don't know see today's "Did you know..." on the main page). Randy Kryn (talk) 03:45, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Randy Kryn Thanks so much! I'm honored, truly. Hope you're doing well, and happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:50, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Skinner Building (Seattle) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Skinner Building (Seattle) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Skinner Building (Seattle) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. MB 04:39, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations
Not only on the recognition (well-deserved), but on all the good work you do around here. I'm in constant awe of those editors who are willing/able to spend time in the trenches working on current events, given that I've never had the patience to work on real-time articles myself. I also always enjoy seeing the work you do on Pacific Northwest-related topics; one of these days I may even get out there to see some of them myself firsthand. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:06, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ser Amantio di Nicolao Thanks so much! I appreciate your kind words and contributions to Wikipedia, too. I hope you're able to visit the beautiful PNW at some point. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It'll come soon enough, I suspect. After this summer's marathon western road trip I've only got eight states left to cover. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:16, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Good to see you on the front page. I know from my own experience that you have always been active but I hadn't realized your efforts had stretched quite so far. Well done!--Ipigott (talk) 06:52, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ipigott Thank you! Much appreciated, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * As others have said already, congrats. I believe you may be the first Wikipedian to have an article on the main page (besides Jimbo Wales cause he's the founder of Wikipedia) but I could be completely wrong. Regardless, congrats. Also your dog is cute. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:19, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Blaze Wolf Wow, thanks so much! (And thanks so much!) :) Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:22, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 53
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Issue 53, September – October 2022 
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Drag Den for DYK?
Hi @Another Believer, do you believe that Drag Den is set for nomination of a DYK? I really don't know how it works, but it is, do I nominated as a 5x expanded? — ( talk ) 16:32, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I would think this is considered a new article creation, not a 5x expansion. But, I've not worked with DYK for years, so you'll need to review Did you know and Template talk:Did you know more closely. Give it a shot and Im'm sure someone else will let you know if you've done anything wrong. Good luck! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:57, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ouuu... I did not saw this message. I see that you are in vacation, and I did put it under 5x expanded. Currently I am making a bunch of ALT hooks since the reviewer is saying that the hook isn't looking a bit good. Don't worry about it, I am just letting you know. Have fun! — JuanGLP ( talk ) 20:16, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Free Woman

 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries; I converted a long quotation in "Composition and release" from quote box to blockquote but an IP editor reverted my edit. I think that quotation could be integrated into running text without the woo about wombs and doors. Also, pull quotes aren't supposed to be used in article space per MOS:QUOTE, and the box formatting draws undue attention to the text, but I've left it in now. Anyway, good luck with your planned GA nomination. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  03:07, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:49, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Seattle's neighborhoods templates
Hello Another Believer, I finished to create all the Seattle's neighborhoods templates written in your sandbox. Are you going to add the entries of Category:Downtown Seattle into their respective templates ? Midnight Citian (talk) 23:20, 20 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Midnight Citian I'm currently traveling but can try to revisit this project soon! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:13, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Great, have a nice trip ! Midnight Citian (talk) 18:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

An edit of yours I don't understand
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chapel_of_St._Ignatius&diff=1121968119&oldid=1121968091 What was established in 1977? Or was that a typo for 1997 (the year the building was built)? - Jmabel &#124; Talk 04:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Jmabel A typo! I've fixed. Happy Thanksgiving! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:19, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red December 2022
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Your GA nomination of Daily Dozen Doughnut Company
The article Daily Dozen Doughnut Company you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Daily Dozen Doughnut Company and Talk:Daily Dozen Doughnut Company/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Etriusus -- Etriusus (talk) 02:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Etriusus Thanks! Let me know if you have any remaining concerns. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!!!

 * Thanks so much! I appreciate the review and the barnstar. On the off chance you're interested, Rancho Bravo Tacos was promoted to Good article status quickly, then nominated for re-assessment, if you have time to weigh in here. No worries if you have better/other things to do. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:39, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Funny enough, I reviewed one of Arkansore's GA nominations earlier this week. I took a look at the page and noted a few issues. Nothing serious, and again, something that can be ironed out within 10 min. I was a bit more liberal in helping clean up issues since I'm not the reviewer per se, please review everything I changed. Etrius  ( Us) 04:54, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:59, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Daily Dozen Doughnut Company
The article Daily Dozen Doughnut Company you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Daily Dozen Doughnut Company for comments about the article, and Talk:Daily Dozen Doughnut Company/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Etriusus -- Etriusus (talk) 03:44, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * @CT55555 Wow, thanks so much! Right back at ya. 'Twas a pleasure to collaborate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:52, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

3rr
FYI you've reverted Cherry Valentine 4 times in 27 hours now… ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 21:24, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Maddy from Celeste Thanks for the heads up/reminder. I've been trying to preserve the article quality ahead of a Good article nomination, but I'll let other editors help out and weigh in. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:29, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * All cool; looks like mostly an anomaly caused by wordofmouf's three edits. I'll try to keep an eye on the article in the coming days as well. ■ ∃ Madeline</b> ⇔ ∃ <b style="color:#613583">Part of me</b> ; 21:39, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw these as distinct edits and not edit warring. Regardless I'll slow down with the reverts and appreciate the extra eyes on the page. Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:42, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes
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 * Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
 * The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
 * An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

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 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
 * A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

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File:Logo for Departure Restaurant and Lounge, Portland, Oregon.jpg listed for discussion
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 * @Ixfd64 Feel free to upload another version of the logo. I'm only concerned about the infobox keeping a logo in some form. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter
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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter error
The GOCE December 2022 newsletter, as sent on 9 December, contains an erroneous start date for our December Blitz. The Blitz will start on 11 December rather than on 17 December, as stated in the newsletter. I'm sorry for the mistake and for disrupting your talk page; thanks for your understanding. Sent by Baffle gab1978 via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:29, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bit House Saloon


The article Bit House Saloon has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Defunct restuarant. Non-notable. Supposed bar of the year, but couldn't survive. References are ultra local trade news, PR sites and professional review sites like Conde Nast. Fails WP:SIGCOV."

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Orsa & Winston moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Orsa & Winston, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Single effective reference is insufficient.  scope_creep Talk  09:54, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Sushi Kaneyoshi moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Sushi Kaneyoshi, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Essentially a copy and paste article. Single reference is insufficient to establish notability.  scope_creep Talk  09:56, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

A doughnut for you!

 * Thank you! I've enjoyed learning about these businesses as I write about (and sample!) them in person. :) Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:03, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * But you're aware of the discussion-in-progress on the DYK Talk page, right? (No problem if you're staying out of it, but just wanted to make sure, as it's only now dawned on me that long-time editors with hundreds of thousands of edits possibly can't keep up with everything that scrolls by their watchlists...) Cielquiparle (talk) 17:42, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Cielquiparle Oh, no I was not aware of this discussion. I guess maybe we'll see what happens at AfD (?) Sigh... Thanks for the heads up. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It's got nothing to do with some false inclusionist-deletionist dichotomy; it's about the rules WP has, and has for good reason. WP:N requires sources (plural) that address the topic directly and in detail. A dozen "list-of-donut-shops" sources that repeat, over and over and over, that a donut shop, well, makes donuts, which you get in a paper bag with sugar if you want it, and that donuts are yummy on a cold day, is not in any conceivable sense "in detail". It is, in fact, what any writeup of any donut shop is going to say. <b style="color:red;">E</b><b style="color:blue;">Eng</b> 19:11, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We can keep the notability discussion to the article's Talk page. I'm not too worried about the entry's fate. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:14, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Then let's skip the silly talk about "deletionists". <b style="color:red;">E</b><b style="color:blue;">Eng</b> 04:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * To be fair it wasn't AB that used the "d" word. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:56, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Despite what EEng said, some doughnut shop articles become good articles. They can even become Good Articles. Leonard's Bakery comes to mind. Unless you want to go into the metaphysics of whether a malasada is a doughnut. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:50, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Another example of a historically significant American small business deserving of a Wikipedia entry. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Bit House Saloon for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bit House Saloon is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bit House Saloon until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Nomination of Daily Dozen Doughnut Company for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Daily Dozen Doughnut Company is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Daily Dozen Doughnut Company& until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.  scope_creep Talk  03:06, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * This is the wildest AfD discussion I've seen in a while... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:05, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It is? Apparently my stats aren't high enough, so I wouldn't know. Cielquiparle (talk) 23:25, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah this is a shitshow, unfortunately. How disappointing. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * And all part of the permanent record. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:43, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Your views
I am trying to write an article for The Signpost. One of the sub-topics was the idea of "Wikipedia influencers". Here is a rough paragraph, "Wikipedia's structure and culture cultivates influence, not influencers. A commonsense sample of search engine search results shows this. Influencer redirects to internet celebrity here. Wikipedia users would be repulsed by such a label. Wikipedia users who interact with the mainspace prefer to be called editors, not micro-influencers, irrespective of the article."

I wanted to know your views on this, i.e. applying the general concept of internet/social media influencers to Wikipedia. What would the concept even look like if you were supportive of such a phrase? FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 18:56, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @FacetsOfNonStickPans I'm not sure I follow. You're suggesting a Wikipedia contributor like me should be "repulsed" by being referred to as an influencer? May I ask why you're asking me specifically? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:50, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi. G'day. On typing "Wikipedia influencer" in Wikipedia search, your article 'Jason Moore (Wikipedia editor)' is the only result. And there is a line relevant to my sub-topic, " CNN Business described Moore as a "Wikipedia influencer" ". Apart from this, there are no substantiative results regarding this phrase even outside Wikipedia, say when using search engines. In such a case taking views from others helps with the underlying understanding and connected worldviews. I would surely even quote you if you didn't mind.
 * Yes, I do understand your interpretation of the lines. They clearly have a negative approach to the concept. But then this entire sub-topic will have more lines. And I hope to balance the antipodalities. As compared to YouTube, Instagram, Twitch, Twitter, TikTok, Reddit influencers, the conceptualization of Wikipedia influencers seems vague. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 20:15, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @FacetsOfNonStickPans I don't use the phrase "Wikipedia influencer" nor have I described myself as one. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:42, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It reflects poorly on CNN that they see this as a big social media "game" of attracting likes or whatever "Social media influencers" do. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thousands of followers want more makeup tips from Another Believer! – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:46, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply/replies. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 11:56, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Sushi Kaneyoshi for deletion
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You're officially Danish!
Or at least, your Wikipedia article is. It took a lot of fiddling around with reference tags and such, but it's finally ready for prime time! Drummerdg (talk) 09:18, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Wow, so cool! Thanks so much! :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome! Drummerdg (talk) 04:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Acadia: A New Orleans Bistro for deletion
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 * Ridiculous. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:42, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Cherry Valentine

 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:40, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries; good luck with your planned GA nom. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  00:09, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:10, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cherry Valentine
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 * Thanks for reviewing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:24, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cherry Valentine
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 * Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Fenouil


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Nomination of Fenouil for deletion
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Thoughts for WP:RPDR
I've noticed that it's somewhat common for fans to want to edit Wikipedia articles of drag queens in violation of WP:BLPPRIVACY to include things like full legal names, dates of birth, even full names of family members. This is already taken care of at WP:BLPPRIVACY, which says they need to be widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public, but I wonder if a quick reminder on the project page itself might be worth having as well? Or do you think that's overkill/unnecessary repetition of Wikipedia's policies. Posting on your talk page because you're pretty good at paying attention to this sort of stuff and reverting these additions when they crop up. Umimmak (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Umimmak I would not be opposed, though I'm not sure project members are the problematic editors (so might be a bit like preaching to the choir?). I'm very tired of removing unsourced/inappropriate biographical details. You're more than welcome to float this idea on the WikiProject RPDR talk page. If anything the talk page reminder is helpful but also editors might welcome the project page suggestion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * True that definitely makes sense; I suppose anyone who's into editing enough to join a WikiProject will also know the basics of BLP articles... I guess I was thinking about just having it be an easy thing to point to (though WP:BLPPRIVACY I guess does that), but thanks for the encouragement to bring this up to the talk page :) Umimmak (talk) 17:35, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No prob! Thanks for the note. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:36, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Umimmak Example of how the birth date shenanigans often happens. (sigh) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:41, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I just had a productive discussion with Oversight who were quick to redact edit histories containing the (not widely publicized) legal names of the Boulet Brothers and temporarily block the offending user. I think I'll go ahead and draft something for the talk page just so more users can be more aware of what to do in these situations. Umimmak (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and posted something on WT:RPDR, thanks for the encouragement. Umimmak (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Umimmak Great, thanks! Happy editing, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:22, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Bailey's Taproom for deletion
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 * Gosh, thanks for giving me a few hours since the last AfD discussion... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Zefiro (restaurant)


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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:19, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Bluehour for deletion
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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:20, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Tilt (restaurant) for deletion
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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:20, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, AB!

The other day, I was having a conversation with someone about holiday cards and social media. It occurred to me that, in the years since I left Facebook, the site I use most to communicate with people I like isn't actually a social media site at all. If you're receiving this, it's pretty likely I've talked with you more recently than I have my distant relatives and college friends on FB, at very least, and we may have even collaborated on something useful. So here's a holiday "card", Wikipedia friend. :) Hope the next couple weeks bring some fun and/or rest. &mdash; Rhododendrites  <sup style="font-size:80%;">talk \\ 18:09, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Rhododendrites Thanks so much, and Happy Holidays to you as well! :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Besaw's


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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:56, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Jeffree Star cannabis laws in Wyoming
Hello, I opened up a discussion on whether cannabis laws should be mentioned on Jeffree Stars page. I figured I’d reach out since you’re involved in WikiProject Cannabis. If you could share your thoughts that’d be great. Thank you! Pillowdelight (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:17, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Yonder (restaurant)


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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Wildwood (restaurant)


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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:50, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Wildwood (restaurant) for deletion
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 * Please leave me alone. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:12, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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 * @CAPTAIN RAJU Thank you! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:27, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red January 2023
--Lajmmoore (talk) 18:00, 27 December 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Daily Dozen Doughnut Company
Hi Another Believer. I've closed the deletion review for this page as "endorsed", meaning it stays deleted. But, since you requested for its restoration, which was denied while the DRV remained open, I've went ahead and restored it at Draft:Daily Dozen Doughnut Company. If you find any issues with the restoration, please be mindful I haven't done this before! Thanks. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 23:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Isabelle Belato Very helpful. Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:11, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

"Trans Sexuality" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Trans Sexuality and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 20:52, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Tamzin Thanks! I've comment in support of your proposal. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:27, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Suspect
Hey, AB, just wanted to explain the deletion of redirects, I think per WP:SUSPECT there's probably a BLP issue. Valereee (talk) 01:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Valereee I thought the purpose of a redirect was to send users to the most relevant page, but please feel free to delete (again) if appropriate. I assumed the page had been deleted because there was more content than just a redirect. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:55, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * For me it was because of possible BLP issues. There's discussion right now about whether it's even appropriate to use the suspect's name in the target article, per WP:SUSPECT. Valereee (talk) 02:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Valereee All good! Thanks for the heads up. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, as always you're great to work with. Valereee (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Another Believer!
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Happy New Year! Another Believer, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 21:44, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Abishe Thank you! Happy New Year! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)