User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 36

Maximilian von Götzen-Itúrbide
Could you restore Maximilian von Götzen-Itúrbide? Articles for deletion/House of Habsburg-Itúrbide did not voted for its deletion on the article House of Habsburg-Itúrbide. This article should go under its own deletion proposal. Thanks.--The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 00:50, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Before we cause any drama, could you show me some evidence that he a) does exist and b) is notable? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday cheer

 * Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:44, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

If you're still awake...
I was wondering if you could take a look at WT:DYK and perhaps do the admin hook moving I'm requesting. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ both. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Sweet dreams when you do retire for the evening! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks Calvin. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Make the World Move
Crisco, Aaron has requested a new reviewer on this review; he's not happy about my invocation of A5, or my pointing out that he'd lucked out in the past. Can you please take this one? I promise to stay far away this time. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Happy holidays! BlueMoonset (talk) 06:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Featured_picture_candidates/John_Surratt
Would you like me to suspend the nomination? Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:33, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Closing it is fine, I haven't been able to get back to editing the image (Christmas + exam season). I'll renom once I've finished cleaning it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:37, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Tahu nggak kak?
....which then became more politicised. Itu maksudnya apa? Apakah politicised maksud kakak adalah dipolitisasi? Tlg terjemahkan segera, ya? Mau saye(=saya) masukkan ke id:Andjar Asmara. Bisa, nggak, kalo kakak pantun bhs Inggris. He he. --Adi.akbartauhidin 14:18, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Iya, lebih banyak memasukkan unsur politik / lebih terpolitisisasi — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:40, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


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 * Thanks Tomcat! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas - 2012
Christmas Greetings. Kierzek (talk) 14:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Sorry about the image, I got it from the article. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 15:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Xmas & Happy New Year
Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

'Tis that season again...

 * Hehe, thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:25, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Xmas

 * Thanks Cas, wish we had turkeys here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:59, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chicken Kiev speech
Any suggestions on what to be done with this nomination? As noted, the nominator is blocked, but the nomination remains and the article has also been worked by others. Should we just add the red arrow to get a reviewer to look at it, or is there a reason it should be dropped? I'm unable to remember a like situation that I could use as precedence, but I haven't been around as long as you have. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied there. I'd rather take something on a case-by-case basis. As Okip was blocked but not banned, this should be fair game. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Good to know. Case by case sounds fine to me. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:46, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Hayao Miyazaki films
Hey Crisco. I see that you are very good at writing FAs for films and I am interested into making all the films by Hayao Miyazaki to FA status, specifically Spirited Away and Ponyo. Would you help me doing this? I don't know how to properly write a film article and may need your help. Thank you! — ΛΧΣ  21  07:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The guy who did Mononoke Hime? Not sure how much content I'll be able to contribute (especially since I don't read Japanese), but feel free to ask me any questions you want. My current project is likewise a pretty heavy film. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, him. Although, I wanna start with Spirited Away, ehich is my favourite film ever, and it has plenty of sources in english. And thatks for the offer, I will seek your help when needed :) Thanks. — ΛΧΣ  21  00:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually haven't seen that one yet. I'll have to track it down. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. I am gathering sources and asking any wikipedians who might wanna join. Also, do you think that this has any chance to be GA or FA? How should I structure it? I am gathering sources to try and expand it but it is a venezuela-only film who didn't enjoy a commercial release anywherem so I don't know. Thanks Crisco :) — ΛΧΣ  21  06:42, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Heck, those are the easiest I think, because you only have to concentrate on critical reviews from one country. For ideas, try and take a look at Ruma Maida, Terang Boelan, and ?. That's the standard layout, more or less. If you have enough sources it can be much longer than that. Also, the plot summary can be longer too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh well, then It'll be easier than expected. I will start a sandbox for it and start writing the article. As most sources are in spanish, I'll take some time translating them and making them ready for inclusion. I welcome any writing help from you, and I'll be glad to do a co-nom at FAC if we dvelop the article together :) I don't know much about film articles and may need a lot of help. Anyways, I'm not at a hurry. I currently have an album at FAC: Homework (Daft Punk album). You might wanna take a look... — ΛΧΣ  21  07:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can peek in later, depends on how my university work is coming. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:49, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Defense Officer Personnel Management Act
Crisco, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this one and see whether it has improved to the point that the refimprove template you added to the article was ready to be removed, and if so, whether it was also to the point that it was ready to have its DYK approval restored (or if there were other issues that needed to be addressed). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:35, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks TGU! You too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Signpost barnstar

 * Thanks Pine! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:00, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Interview
Finally got the interview done: Wikipedia Signpost/2010-12-31/Interview. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it. Cheers. Kaldari (talk) 06:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd arrange it under a minimal number of subheadings. No need to have too many, it breaks up the readership. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Ada brosur
Kak, tadi aku ketemu brosur ini: Pohon mindi, kalo di wikipedia, ada gak templat cite khusus yang menangani brosur seperti cite book untuk buku atau cite journal untuk jurnal? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 14:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Cite, seperti di Kusumanegara Heroes' Cemetery:
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, "ma' kaséhlah, Bang Kris." (Terima kasih, Bang Kris). -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 14:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sama2 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Minangkabau Wikipedia
Hello! Do you remember me, Ramzy Muliawan, from the LangCamp? Please support Minangkabau Wikipedia request in Incubator. Thanks! SpartacksCompatriot 04:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Will check there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

SultanPontianak.jpg
Sy tadi minta ama Kak Kenrick95 suapay unggah foto SultanPontianak.jpg, mau sy tambahkan ke artikel Perang Dayak Desa, tapi kak Kenrick nya bingung, apakah lisensinya publik domain atw tidak? Soalnya, fotonya diambil dari buku tahun 2003, jadi lisensi yg dikasi untuk foto itu ya fairuse lah. Menurut kakak, bisa nggak foto SultanPontianak.jpg bisa diganti dgn Publik Domain tidak, Mengingat foto ini diambil pada 1920? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 14:34, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Diterbitkan untuk pertama kali kapan? Siapa yang mengambil foto? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:07, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Terbit:1920
 * Pemotret:O. Horst (kemungkinan)

Ini alamat webnya: Google buku.

O, ya, kok bisa sih foto Andjar Asmara sama Terang Boelan masuk Commons. Gimana sih cara kakak melobi pengurus di sana? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 01:35, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Itu kan ada link di diskusinya. Disetujui bahwa perpanjangan hak ciptanya menurut URAA harus berdasarkan hukum Indonesia dan bukan Belanda. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Saya tidak menemukan bukti penerbitan atau kapan Horst meninggal. Maaf. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

selamat semua
as for the movie - we must meet in real life one day regardless of others - too much to talk about... not enough time to explain in type... SatuSuro 01:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You've got that right. I'm thinking of getting some contemporary reviews if I have the time to go to Kompas' or Tempo archives. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:40, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

flc
Hello sir, would you you pls review Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Priyanka Chopra/archive1, as I'm trying to take it to FA. Please, do because it would be a great help.— PKS: 1142  · (TALK) 05:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'd have to oppose based on what I've seen at a quick glance. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * But, I can resolve your concerns on the page, pls give ur opinion on the page. Thank you.— PKS: 1142  · (TALK) 11:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Zuber Usman
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PR
Hello, as requested by all of you a peer review is currently going on Peer review/List of awards and nominations received by Priyanka Chopra/archive2. Please, contribute to the PR and help it in its improvisation.— PKS: 1142  · (TALK) 08:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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A few things
Crisco, I've recently completed my tenth DYK prep set in a row (and staged the special occasion New Years hook in the next prep area). I've been trying to keep us a couple of days ahead, and I think I deserve a rest. Furthermore, the people whose hooks I've given final approval to over the past week or so need a chance to get their hooks promoted. If you're up to building the next prep set, I'd really appreciate it. I don't know what's happened to everyone else: I keep hoping someone else will step in, but no one does.

I'm also not entirely sure I'm being sufficiently critical: the Jalsha Movies hook currently in Prep 2 strikes me, on second look, as borderline (or possibly over the border) promotional, so if you could take another look at it, I'd greatly appreciate it. It's still in prep, but maybe not for long since the "backlog" header for queues is back on, and this is the only filled prep available.

Third, there have been a spate of nominations lately that seem to me to be lacking in the prose department, which includes structural deficiencies. I'm beginning to feel like the proverbial bad cop, and some of them have serious neutrality/POV issues as well: the articles on Armenian topics by a recent convert to DYK, Proudbolsahye, for example—one caught the attention of a brand new reviewer (Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Sevag Balikci).

Finally, either I'm getting better or too picky as a reviewer, but I'm sending a lot of approved hooks back for more work. Sometimes it's problems with paragraph sourcing, inline sourcing for hooks, or bare refs; sometimes it's prose; sometimes it's overly close paraphrasing, and sometimes it's a combination of them.

Thanks for anything you can do to help, and have a very happy new year. (Let me know how 2013 looks, okay? You get to give it a test drive long before I do...) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at Jalsha and a couple of the others and try and build some preps later. As for the rest... do it. When I get stressed out but want to stay productive I writer articles or watch Inuyasha with the Mrs; I'm sure you've got your own ways. This place'll eat you alive if you take it too seriously. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:01, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As for being too critical... that's a Catch 22. No matter what, you'll get people calling you overcritical and you'll get people calling you undercritical. I think you should just be as critical as you feel you need to be. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice and the reminders. It's been a very long time (August) since I took an article to GA. I think I'm overdue to work one up, not that 30 isn't a reasonable number under my belt.
 * I've asked Nikkimaria if she'd be willing to move one of the hooks from Prep 2 to fill the (invisible) hole in Queue 3 from the hook she had to remove. In case she doesn't get to it in the next couple of hours, my suggestion was to move "the René de Segonzac hook from Prep 2 to Queue 3 to refill it to eight: I think placing it right after the Samuel N. Patterson House hook would be best in terms of balance within that set." If she hasn't been able to get to it in the next several hours, can you take care of it? I'll even find the replacement hook for P2, since I was the one who originally promoted the hook that had to be removed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:57, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's immensely satisfying to write something like Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI or Kubah. Even if the article doesn't get to GA status, you're still introducing a lot of people to things they wouldn't know otherwise. I'll move the hook now, so I won't forget. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for working on the prep set. It feels so good to see one taking shape where I'm not in charge. I was curious about why you took ALT2 of Template:Did you know nominations/Htou-tjyen‎ rather than ALT2a, which was approved: one reason I proposed 2a was because 2 was not a good approximation: half an inch is closer to one and a quarter centimeters than one and a third. If you don't like 2a, I'll change it to "one and a quarter", since it feels inappropriate to insist on my wording of "a bit over 1 cm" or to have "wide" before the parenthesis if you felt it didn't work, as I'm definitely not always right about hook wording flow. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:22, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't see it, to be honest. Changed — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:04, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Glad that hook has finally made it again, and hope no problems are found with it this time... BlueMoonset (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Janur Kuning
Hello! Your submission of Janur Kuning at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Rosiestep (talk) 17:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Trouted
You have been trouted for giving credit to the wrong people for creating the artwork and creating the nomination for the Featured picture "Burning of McPhersonville" in Wikipedia Signpost/2012-12-31/Featured content. I have fixed the problem. --Pine✉ 22:46, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I still like you anyway. ;) The Signpost benefits greatly from your work! --Pine✉ 23:17, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of literary works published in Asia Raja
Nyttend (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Request
Hi there. I understand it is the holiday season and you may be busy, but may I ask for a favour: a review of Penticton Regional Airport, which is currently at featured article candidates. Please remember there is no rush and you do not need to if you are too busy at this time. If you would like, I can review your current featured article as well. Thanks in advance, and happy new year. TBrandley (what's up) 06:12, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Your nomination may have already been promoted, sorry. TBrandley (what's up) 06:14, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You might want to check what's in line next before you make a promise like that: Theory of Literature or Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI (although both still have a way to go) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for letting me know. I'd be more than happy to review the former under its current peer review, if you would like. TBrandley (what's up) 06:50, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm... how about I take a rain check on that? I'll take a look at your article though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:54, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Your closing of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cultural icons of England
Umm what? How was that consensus a keep? I believe there were five people wishing to delete it, and three to keep it. That too after the changes were made.

And no list except the England list was referenced. Unless those are also converted into a similar format, they are an absolute delete per WP:OR.

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:36, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Per WP:AFD, admins don't just count !votes, but weigh the strength of arguments. "Inherently subjective" (four !votes) or "inherently OR" (two votes, including the nom) are not deletion criteria. They can be fixed easily by changing the scope, and that is not a task which AFD is meant for. Instead, it should be discussed on the articles' talk pages.
 * Think "List of items considered cultural icons of X", with referenced entries to reliable (super)sources. One "inherently subjective" list which has survived numerous AFDs, and which could be used as an example, is List of films considered the worst ever, which is inherently subjective but still notable and, as written, encyclopedic. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:38, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Chiswick Chap's argument at the AFD is more or less the strongest one there, btw. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:42, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright. I just needed to know which was the stronger of the arguments, as I thought you might be closing per that. And what about the other lists? The england one is alright, but the rest are still liable for deletion. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:50, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Liable for massive clean up, agree, but a fairly universal definition of scope needs to be agreed on (how many sources have to consider something an icon of a nation, for example?). Theoretically List of cultural icons of X could be made for any country, just like Women in X and Human rights in X. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:52, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * How about staying with the same conditions that the England article has been using? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:58, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. I'll take a further look later, just want to finish this DYK nom — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2013

 * Thanks Aaron/Calvin! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:53, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Icelandic Phallological Museum for TFA
Hi Crisco, I thought I'd let you know that I've renominated Icelandic Phallological Museum for Today's Featured Article for February 14, as discussed last September. If you have any thoughts on this the nomination is at Today's featured article/requests. Prioryman (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Copyedit Question
Hello. Sorry to bug you, but I'm starting to prep "DeadAlive" for FA, (if my other ones ever passes that is). I was wondering, since you did some awesome work on "The Sixth Extinction II", if you could at all give it a copy-edit? I am in no rush or anything, so I don't need it done ASAP, but I just thought I'd ask since you know what you are doing. Thanks!-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)   04:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll try giving 'er a look. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:05, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

About novel "Kalau tak untung"
Kebetulan saya memiliki novel tersebut, bagaimana jika saya scan sampulnya, kemudian saya upload ke en-wiki, apakah diperbolehkan? Bagaimana prosedurnya meng-upload non-fee media untuk men-deskripsikan artikel, misalnya tentang novel itu sendiri (artikel tersendiri)?  Ę-oиė   >>>   ™ 10:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Anda akan menulisnya? Nice.. I can't wait. :)  Ę-oиė    >>>   ™ 14:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)\


 * Why my link archive from webcitation is incorrect? I received an e-mail from webcitation that "CACHING FAILED". Can you explain it?  Ę-oиė    >>>   ™ 15:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, begitu rupanya. :) Anyway, thank's sudah membetulkan link archive-nya.  Ę-oиė    >>>   ™ 15:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Longest-standing FA?
It randomly came to my mind that which article is the longest standing FA. So came here if you knew which article is it... &mdash;  Yash [talk] 20:53, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There are a few FA from the RBP phase in January 2004, e.g., Helium, Earth, Gimmetoo (talk) 21:50, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There we go. (I didn't know) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Minangkabau marriage
Find anything on this?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  21:03, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow. No, I started something but didn't really get into it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Belated Happy New Year with a Toast!


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A Very Happy (belated) New Year to you Crisco! Enjoy the Whisky ~ TheGeneralUser   (talk)  00:01, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Har har har, thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:12, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Cheers
Thanks for the vandal revert! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 01:30, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Indo people...
Hey there - thanks for bringing in the mop and bucket but I'm sure that my recent revert fixed Indo people - Kwuaf change to that article was just a redirect not an actual move. ie, my previous version on this diff was actually correct. It fixed that page, but not the others. --Merbabu (talk) 01:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, you reverted yourself. :) --Merbabu (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, caught that. Too much to do, I guess. Going to Ciamis in... 40 minutes — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh nice - I'm off to Balmoral Beach in about the same. I think your move here is good too. Seems fine. Will keep checking the mega mess. :) --Merbabu (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, so this section Indo_people starts with hat note links to Indos in pre-colonial history and Indos in colonial history. The first works fine, but the second confuses me. Where's that article? The links were inserted into Indo people (that came our wrong, but I digress) well before today's dramas, but the second link appears to be new. hmmm. Did we lose an article? --Merbabu (talk) 01:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, so it's still a bit murky but...
...I think I've worked it out:

There were three existing articles that were moved or redirected - I've listed them below under their original/pre-today names in bold. I've gone through each of the history pages and checked from which page Kwuaf first moved each article. Essentially my recommendation/request is that numbers 2 & 3 be restored to the original title/location (in bold) - number 1 is already done:
 * 1) Indo people - correctly restored to original name and content. All good.
 * 2) Indos in pre-colonial history - article history. Page and content still at "Pre-colonial history of Indonesia"
 * 3) Indos in colonial history - Article history Content has been correctly restored (check the page sizes), however, it's been restored incorrectly to "Indos in colonial history" where is currently resides. (ie, note the missing "pre")

Perhaps the best way is to fix 3 first, so it clears way to restore 2. Clear as mud? :) --Merbabu (talk) 03:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I think I finally got this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * At the risk of bugging you when you have not quite finished, No. 2 above is not yet back to it's original location. :) thanks!!! --Merbabu (talk) 09:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No, you're right to bug me. I missed that. Must be overtired from the trip. Terrible connection here too. Should be done... now... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a polite but firm suggestion/request/demand be given to the editor explaining that this made a big mess, and that such moves need prior agreement after discussion. :) And an encouraging one. I cannot take issue with his most recent edits to Indo people. --Merbabu (talk) 09:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree, but I will do my bit for the Signpost right now. S/he's working pretty well for now, so it doesn't look too pressing. (This is why I often stick to Indonesian pop culture... the only tendentious stuff is films like Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:59, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Left him/her a message. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

New Year

 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Terang Boelan
hai Crisco, saya melihat artikel yang kau kembangkan bernama "Terang Boelan" jadi FA disini. Mohon donk yang di Wikipedia Indonesia dikembangkan juga karena juga ada: id:Terang Boelan

Nanti saya bakalan usulin jadi AP disana atau kalo tidak Anda sendiri deh dengan usulin. --Erik Fastman (talk) 11:59, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Kalau saya sempat menerjemahkan, oke, tetapi saya lebih mengutamakan membuat konten baru di sini. Hari ini saya menulis Nugroho Notosusanto, misalnya. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:01, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Lha kan itu bahasa Indonesia semua. Tak perlu diterjemahkan. Jadi tinggal dirangkai saja. Dan harusnya uji coba Anda dilakukan dahulu di WBI sebelum akhirnya diterjemahkan di Wiki.EN. Itu juga yang seharusnya yang dilakukan pada konten baru Anda disini. --Erik Fastman (talk) 12:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Menulis artikel Wikipedia itu bukan copy-paste dari rujukan, tetapi merangkum dan menata. Saya lebih sering menggunakan Wikipedia bahasa Inggris karena lebih sering diakses orang, sehingga lebih bermanfaat. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Maaf, sy ngalihkan pembicaraan. Perlombaan maraton 2013 kekurangan juri, bisa nggak kakak jadi juri disitu? sy mau nanya, kenapa kesadaran en.wikipedia kok kurang sekali dlm berlomba menulis artikel. Di wikipedia bahasa Jerman/Indonesia, ada lomba menulis artikel, namanya perlombaan maraton. Kok di wikipedia bhs Inggris nggak ada lomba menulis artikel/lomba maraton? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 15:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ada lomba kok. Kalau saya diperlukan sebagai juri, sepertinya bisa. Penilaian diserahkan paling lambat kapan? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:27, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Kakak bisa lihat langsung di situ. -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 15:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Tidak dicantumkan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:36, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Kak, menurut kakak, halaman web ini lebih bagus diseragamkan dgn cite yg mana, kak? kalo buku gx mungkin, karena tak ada judulnya. Kalo web, panjang benar isi situsnya. Kalo jurnal, tak ada indikasi kalo itu jurnal. Jadi, mana yg bagus, kak? Sy mau buat artikel Daun wungu. Jadi, gimana kak bagusnya? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 12:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Cite thesis, dengan menggunakan parameter |chapter= — Crisco 1492 (talk) : Kak, kenapa Bachtiar Effendi kok rusak artikelnya? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Rupanya sudah diperbaiki. -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 05:25, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Barangkali masalah loading — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:27, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Since you're on a "Carly" kick ...
.. :) — Ched : ?  12:10, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm... shame I'm on a connection that would melt my modem if tried to play it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:26, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah, here I was coming over to start a nice day and hopefully a New Year with a "Good morning" and a thanks for bringing a smile to my day with a Carly Simon visit to my talk page while I slept. It was "Haven't got time for the pain" ... Hey Ched, since you haven't got time for it, stop spreading it 'round. Pretending to be nice while you do it just makes it seem passive-aggressive. So, I really came to say Happy New Year, Crisco ... too bad I find snark everywhere, still spread by folks who can't let go. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 16:10, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the New Year wishes, Sandy, and hope yours is a good one. I must admit I'm not familiar with the song, but the title is pretty revealing. (still haven't opened the link, individual Wikipedia pages are already taking a minute or two to open) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:40, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * well, I got a new 'puter for Christmas, so I've been all about music for a week, and have coincidentally been listening to a lot of Carly Simon! So your note did bring a smile ... best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Fernando's fianchetto
Great move on main page talk, though I must point out Fernando Lugo is a bishop, not a rook. Cheers. Jonathunder (talk) 14:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Curses, foiled again! I knew I should have bought those new lenses. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK promotions needed
Crisco, the queues are empty, and as we're on the new 3/day schedule, a promotion is needed within the next four hours or so or our first 8-hour set gets extended. I'm hoping you can promote at least one. I've done the next three prep sets, but Lord Roem started the fourth (and with a nearly identical picture to one I'd just used: in fact, I was deciding between the two, and decided that the one I went with on ((prep|4}} was the better of the two), so I didn't do that one, since I didn't want it to seem like I was building nearly adjacent sets around two green mounds.

Thanks for anything you can do to break the log jam; with 3/day, we need more frequent admin prep promotions. I'm still blown away by the fact that we have 128 approved hooks, and only 48 open slots between the six empty queues and one nearly empty prep area. Yikes. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:50, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll try, but the connection I'm on isn't very stable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:26, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooh, be careful then. Best of luck with the connection; you probably shouldn't risk more than one in that case. If I don't see anything in the next half hour or so, I may put a note on the DYK talk page, to give an extra hour's warning before the bot puts up its own, in case there are any US Wikipedians who might call it a night before the bot warning is posted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've gotten two, but will not be able to upload the images on-Wiki. Hope the bot kicks in. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:39, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll happily take two! :-) Many thanks! (If the bot doesn't handle the images, then we may be in trouble. I'll definitely be asleep by then, and unable to raise the alarm.) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:42, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * MaterialScientist is usually quick to act (and he's an admin on Commons, so that helps) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Bogor Heritage
Hello,

Can you tell me how it might be possible for our Bogor Heritage project to work with or even within the Indonesia project? I know you have interests in descendant projects. A sub-project is helpful because of course we can share documentation, translations, and of course the articles we will be working on are very relevant. Perhaps the project can be placed at Indonesia/Bogor/Heritage ?

Please visit our proposal and let us know if you have any thoughts. WikiProject Bogor Heritage Alex Rollin (talk) 08:07, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Warning
Don't revert and move if things are under discussion. AsianGeographer (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * "Warning"??? *grabs popcorn*. --Merbabu (talk) 10:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And the discussion is...? I saw it absolutely nowhere in your contributions history. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:Lugo's law
Although it appears I may have coined the term, someone else started the essay - I'm not that vain... (!) BencherliteTalk 18:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I noticed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

AfD closure
I noticed that you closed the Victoria Leigh Soto AfD discussion with the text "Closing this a little early as it is quite clear that an out-and-out deletion is not going to happen, and AFD is not for the creation / retargeting of redirects." I'd like to request that you either re-open it and allow it to run its full course, or ask for some other administrators opinions, as I haven't seen an early close for no consensus before. The main reason I'm asking this is because the article really looks like it fails BIO1E, regardless of VICTIM or other policies, and the, in my opinion, large consensus is that a redirect is more appropriate for now. Also, it is an acceptable and enforceable outcome of an AfD to have a redirect made. I'd like to request that the AfD be at the very least reevaluated by you or another administrator.

Addendum: You in your closing statement refered further consideration to the talkpage, yet it's better to keep the discussion on the AfD page until the official closing would have occurred. That way editors can continue arguments without having to copy-paste or other things. Plus, the reason you gave for moving the discussion to the talkpage is, as quoted above, that AfD isn't for redirects. AfD outcomes can be redirects, and that's enforceable if the consensus is there for a redirect (which I believe there is in this case).

Thanks, gwickwire  talk edits 21:31, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * AFD is, per WP:AFD, "where Wikipedians discuss whether an article should be deleted" (emphasis mine), although various outcomes can happen; the AFD in question was clearly already outside the scope of AFD. That's one. You should refer to my full closing statement, in which I make it quite clear that, although the number of redirect !votes is indeed greater, the keep !votes also have merit which, although not enough to sway it to keep, were enough to give me pause. As for "early" close, that appears to have been a misstatement: the AFD opened on 22 December and it was closed on 6 January, 15 days later. I'll open the redirect discussion if you are not willing — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The AfD was opened because Drmies felt the article should have been deleted. However, other editors felt a redirect was better. Therefore, it is not outside the scope of AfD. The AfD was actually relisted late on December 30th, so it shouldn't have been closed until tomorrow (or 1 hr from now UTC) without a good reason. There's no redirect discussion needed, as the arguments for keep in the discussion were largely pushed by one editor (Ahonnemos [sp]) and just piggybacked by others, and were trumped by BLP/BIO 1E policy by many other editors favoring redirect. I'd request you take another look at the AfD please, and if you still feel there is no consensus defaulting to keep I'll go open a discussion. gwickwire  talk edits 23:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * When opened, no, but when there is only two or three delete !vote after some thirty or forty !votes it's clear that deletion is clearly not going to happen. You can, under WP:BOLD, redirect it now and then do a BRD. As for the keep !votes, I do not share your opinion on the merits of said votes (excluding the assertion that BLP1E could not apply because the subject is dead; BLP and related topics [correctly] apply to the recently deceased). Mercy's statement "The scholarship fund, etc., set up further add to her notability" resonates, and Ahnoneemoos' (although you dislike it) is fairly well argued — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay :) Thanks for relooking at it. I'll spend some time thinking about whether or not it's better to redirect then discuss or even try to discuss it. Thanks again, sorry if I seemed a bit crabby, I was operating on little sleep. gwickwire  talk edits 02:39, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, you caught me at a pretty nasty time too (finals started today, and I just got back from Ciamis at 1 a.m. local time) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sariamin Ismail
Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the ref on Jurassic Park article
Hi, Crisco, a fellow SE Asian. I also live in Bangkok, Hanoi, Jarkara Time Zone, guess where I live. :D

Thanks for adding the reference for Jurassic Park article. I thought the call would go unnoticed. I assume you were the core crew who got it to FA? If so, how would you like to format names in the article? "Last name, first name" or "first name last name"? Anthonydraco (talk) 08:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * After checking a few more things. I realized that what've posted above are all wrong. XD ^ Anthonydraco (talk) 08:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * (ec) Nope, as I noted on the WikiProject talk page the information was all in the history. I think, for references at least, the standard is last name, first name (even with Indonesian or Thai names, which is... not exactly applicable). The article needs a lot of work right now though, including referencing and prose polishing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:37, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, the time zone was right ;) I'm not exactly South-East Asian, but they've been calling me "very Indonesian" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:37, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

classic
above - waktu sleman? - or zaman jawa tengah - maybe jam gila? the ip at bali smelled like a classic ip block evader :p - but the contribs history doesnt tie in - amazing how cretisnism doesnt seem to require excess iodine at times zaman dulu when isteri (sebelum isteri) tinggal di sebelah merapi (sampai di atas... tetapi yang sulit keterangan jelas disini) excess iodine from diet was assumed to create various conditions SatuSuro 08:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Zaman edan sounds about right. Yeah, my spider-senses are tingling with that IP. Argument's almost the same as the blocked editor. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:51, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

45 minutes to DYK update, and no queues loaded
Crisco, I think I've missed you for the night, but if not, there's nothing in the DYK queue and a single prep set ready to go; if you are around and can promote it, that would be great. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:16, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone got it. I was just getting ready for bed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking! Yes, I didn't want all my eggs in one basket, and saw that Orlady was actively editing; she was able to make the promotion. I'm building prep sets right now. One of the hooks I considered was Template:Did you know nominations/Sumangali (child labour); it has not one but two approvals, but I'm wondering whether the article is sufficiently neutral, so I'm holding off for now. Can I ask you to check when you get the chance? It looks like an important topic, but neutrality is also necessary in DYK. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:36, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Copyedited, looks fairly NPOV (especially compared to the other sources online). I haven't seen any RSes which are pro-sumangali, so we can't exactly push for that to be included. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:33, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I wanted to the opinion of someone who's been around for a while. I think it was maybe the use of the word "scheme" that made me wonder. I didn't think there would be pro-"sumangali" sources, and I certainly didn't think WP:UNDUE would require that there be an emphasis on them in any case. I'll feel free to promote it going forward. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:42, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Aha! I just double checked that, the sources generally use "scheme" as well so it's supported. Could be worse though. Could be "plot" or "conspiracy" — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:55, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Nugroho Notosusanto
The DYK project (nominate) 00:22, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Notability issue
Hi,

I would appreciate your opinion about notability issue on this page.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:24, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I asked for an opinion at Wikipedia:Notability/Noticeboard. I didn't know it exists, sorry if I bothered you with my question.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:28, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't get to that, you seem to have pinged me while I was preoccupied with exams. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Quick copyright question
I'm doing a GA review of Jacob's Ladder (film). Is the image File:Head_VI_(1949).JPG, already used at Francis Bacon (painter), fair use in it? It's quite useful for showing one artistic model for the film's horror, but I know we're supposed to minimize our use of fair use files. -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:18, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * At the bare minimum it needs a WP:FUR. Looking at its use in the article, I don't see the in-depth discussion required by the NFCC. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! File's been removed from the article. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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Vivekananda 12 January
there.... Thanks for promoting! Can we have it on 12 January please? That's 150 birth anniversary of the person, a very special day (I can give you many reliable sources to show how that day will be celebrated worldwide, please see this Google News search result page). And.. after the edit conflict... I tried to add PD 1923 File:Swami Vivekananda 1893 Scanned Image.jpg.. can you please add this image? Thanks! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll move it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I asked it there and another reviewer told: If it is fixed quickly, then it would be possible to get this scheduled for his birthday. . Please tell me if I need to do anything from my side, though a bit tired after typing a "tough" Bengali piece in Wikisource! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:59, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Crisco, can you please check this? Right now, the image is only in the Swami Vivekananda template at the bottom, and I don't think that qualifies under DYK as being in the article. If not, is there any problem with adding the image to the article while it's also in the template? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. I replicated the photo in the article's infobox. More images are available at Commons, though not as captivating as this one. Thank you, Poeticbent</b> <span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk 18:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have replied here --Tito Dutta (talk) 23:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As have I. Watchlisted the DYK nom page. I suggest, if you want this to run on the twelfth, using a different image as this discussion may or may not be completed before then. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It may be completed, if you withdraw the nomination.... he he!  Jokes apart. I have replied there at Commons) (link just above). I am adding a black and white image there at DYK! --Tito Dutta (talk) 23:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Alrighty. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:33, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * New reply there at Commons page, Commons file description improved, DYK image replaced the image you mentioned (though not "original"). That's the latest update! --Tito Dutta (talk) 23:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, can you remember this old talk? Anyway, I also thought of nominating that painting/photograph for deletion, since I could not understand if that has been adapted from the 1893 poster, if so, source and licence which say "own work" etc are wrong. And if it is really their own work (own creation), then it does not have historical importance. The only possibility remained the image is a different one which I could not locate. --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * After looking at it I do. As for the "painting", it seems pretty clearly adapted from the poster and is probably PD, but rather useless compared to other files we have. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * An idea came to my mind which I did not post there because it could infuriate you, upload this image as a new version of that image, this image has some historical value, specially the words in the image. It depends on you. I'll check it again after 1-2 day(s)
 * I am worried about the colour scanned image and is used in more than 3 languages Wikipedias and 50+ pages, templates etc. Here (link above) too "a colour photo" is mentioned, I don't know which one, multiple colour images of Vivekananda was taken in 1893. Do you want the Bengali book? --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I probably wouldn't be able to read it. Okay, this is a good link. It clearly shows that the colour image was used as a poster, and the contextual information (fonts, spellings) looks about right. As the posters would have been on display in 1893, this is definitely PD. I'll withdraw the one RFD. The second... well, this poster could be uploaded separately, I think, as it's still not a painting — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you re-add the color image in DYK (if it is already not too late and if there is not any other issue) after archiving that DR page! You can see a sample close here Thanks! --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Not comfortable doing that on Commons. Whole different world. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Ghetto Baby
Crisco, this one's kind of stuck: Aaron nominated it a couple of days too late, but it isn't his article, it's someone else who, as far as I can tell, has never had a DYK before. I'd like to ask you to decide whether to give it an exception or an X; I'm a little too annoyed at Aaron right now to be able to properly weigh those two factors. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I appreciate it. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:35, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

An invitation for you!

 * I'll see what my schedule's like. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

"Tons of Malay and Indonesian housemaids have been killed in the Arabian peninsula, or killed in retribution when they fought back."
Can I get links to such things in English? Today is the first I heard of this, and I am teaching about human rights right now.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you + procedural error from my side
Replied. Sorry. AsianGeographer (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Indeed - see User:AsianGeographer - we are all suckers now - a mess on the Indonesian project created by none other than....SatuSuro 14:59, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * AGF, our old foe. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Shirt
Thank you! I talked to James about this, since it was something of a surprise for me, and he said that he had chosen one for me, knowing what I already had, and had meant to talk to me about it after Christmas, but it had slipped his mind. I had not even read the nomination until today, and I'm humbled. Really, floored. (Honestly, there may have been some moisture.) I think I will wait to say thank you until it arrives. And I figure out how. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. We all love you and the work you do... well, except maybe the serial copyright violaters. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You'd think she'd be used to having kindness heaped upon her. ;-) But, maybe that's yet another reason why we all love her. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hear hear! -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Judith Leyster FPC
Hey there! Just wanted to note that you may want to run the alt as a Delist-and-replace (inviting all commenters from the original to participate): There's probably not enough time to evaluate another alt on the current nomination, but a D&R, so long as everyone from the original nom is invited on their talk page, should go fine and have plenty of participation. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:06, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of that. And so it goes... Indonesian internet connections. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK images
Thanks for your help on the DYK talk page. Could I get you to have a quick look at the image for Template:Did you know nominations/Marian Cripps, Baroness Parmoor? I'm fairly sure the licence isn't right (see discussion), and not at all sure whether artist dead for >70 years is sufficient alone. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:22, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. Replied there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:39, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks muchly! Espresso Addict (talk) 05:43, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

TFA of 2012
I saw you asking, wonder what the others will come up with. The one TFA coming to my mind is the Lynching of Jesse Washington, a bold decision (scheduled by Dabomb) for the good of an uncensored Wikipedia, tough to watch all day long but worth it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Have to limit it to 3 (and this was for FAC, not TFA). I agree, Mark's work was very good but, for the sake of neutrality, I should not have a role in choosing. Maybe next week we'll talk about lists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I only wanted to say how surprised I was that of a choice of 366, one made a lasting impression. I see that I got the abbr wrong, no problem, no intention, just sharing thoughts ;) - different story here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm... to be honest, although Mark's lynching article definitely stood out, my favourite of this year was Eusèbe Jaojoby because it was a wonderful article on a subject that is terribly underrepresented. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:11, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that one out, I missed it! I started to be interested in FA only after the inappropriate blurb for Kathleen Ferrier on her centenary (22 April), and stopped looking when the "only one nomination at a time"-rule was enforced, but I may be more active again as that seems to get changed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I see... alright, back to content creation. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've made my choice and written my piece. Can you tell we where to post it? Brianboulton (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Right here'll be good. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but can you be specific? Do I use the "add a comment" link? Brianboulton (talk) 23:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Just on top of the page there (the article, not the talk page). I'll organise it later. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Look, you are familiar with this and I am not. Please, tell me precisely what link to use that will get me to the right edit window. I don't have time to sit here wondering what "Just at the top of the page" might mean. Brianboulton (talk) 10:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Fine. This one. Please put it right under your name (I've added that) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Nix that, I found it and added it (I had assumed you'd written it offline) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Who's been peeping in my sock drawer?? No problem Brianboulton (talk) 11:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * *looks furtively about* — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Toronto we have a Tonto or two
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NTV7&action=history - not sure I'd place my bets on the horse either way, I think I'd rather jump in the river, so to speak - no one has warned either camp... maybe Hi Ho Silver! is all I can say SatuSuro 14:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Saw that. Currently still 1RR, although I wouldn't mind semi protecting the lot... (oh wait, I think they are...) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Mystery
I am interested in a picture like this, Mystic Marriage, to illustrate BWV 32. This one comes with many question marks. Can you resolve some? Cats? Do you know any other one? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm... that's a mess. Based on the style, it looks free, but... not anything that would pass muster at GAC and FAC. File:Meister Bertram von Minden 012.jpg looks free enough and has better sourcing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Janur Kuning
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Geger Pacinan
Kak, sy memasukkan fakta di artikel bhs.Indonesianya begini:
 * Di abad yang sama, pembunuhan massal ini dicatat juga dalam Bahasa Banjar oleh Abdur Rahman di syairnya, Syair Hemop.[76]

Bisa nggak kakak terjemahkan ke Bahasa Inggris. Apakah kakak pendukung Manchester United? -- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 12:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Apa ada rujukannya di sana? Saya tidak terlalu mengikuti sepak bola. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ini dia:

-- Akbar ini dari Kalbar 02:38, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Nanti saya coba lihat — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:30, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Perfini
PERFINI, Enam Djam Di Djogja, and Max Tera I've started You might have something more on them.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  13:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Cripes you move fast. I'll definitely be able to dig up more on Enam Djam di Djogja... but not tonight. I have a promotional booklet from Perfini that I can use too. Not sure about Tera, though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK POV
Crisco, I'd like to ask you a favor. I think I'm missing the forest for the trees (or vice versa) on a number of Proudbolsahye's (talk) articles. There have been issues of neutrality and close paraphrasing, and I'm not always happy with the way facts are presented: there seem to be holes or assumptions. At this point, I think these articles need a fresh set of eyes, because I haven't been giving them the attention they need, mostly because I'm not sure what really needs to be done or said.

The first article, nominated by Yerevanci, is Pangaltı Armenian Cemetery. (The rest have been self-nominated.) Since it was nominated, most of its text has been duplicated in the table of notable properties in Confiscated Armenian Properties in Turkey; should it be merged at this point? The latter article, however, seems to have issues in how it uses the numbers: in addition to the properties that have been restored, another set seems to be in the process of being restored, etc. (See its talk page for a discussion of some of the issues.) I'm not sure percentages should be used, since they're interpretations of what the categories mean, which may affect neutrality. I'd like to have someone with a good sense of things look over her submitted articles—and not just these two—for POV. (The Hagop Vahram Çerçiyan article was the one which had the notable close paraphrasing. This was one of the rare English sources, and it was quite striking before fixes were made. That said, I think it's an interesting article, but someone else needs to look at it now.)

Thanks for giving this your attention, if you can. I haven't had a lot of experience on judging when POV issues have been dealt with, or where the line is, really. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:35, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * For the merge question, I'd argue against that as the cemetery is likely notable on its own. The other one... let's not have that. The entire subject area is rife with POV — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:33, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll leave it to you to straighten out then. Thanks for clarifying about the merge; be sure to note that I was on the wrong track when you respond to the Cemetery template. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:21, 13 January 2013 (UTC)