User talk:Davey2010/Archive 2020 2

January-June → July-December

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:46, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much Gerda Arendt, Hope you and yours are all okay, Thank you for your contributions to the project, Take care and stay safe. – Davey 2010 Talk
 * Yes and yes, and I hope you and yours the same. Life and death close, - look at the boxes on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

notes 2
We Dance On - source beat - cite doesn't mention genre - check arc

N-Dubz singles
Ok I won't remove those genres for now, I don't want to start an edit war. However, I hope it'll be ok if I manage to replace those unsourced genres with sourced ones. --Blueberry72 (talk) 20:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Blueberry72, Generally speaking the genres should stay sourced or not - I'm aware of there being edit wars with these but so far there's been no edit wars with these and it's not like IPs are changing these on a daily basis so for the time being I'm not seeing a reason to replace or remove them,
 * There's plenty of articles here with the genres unsourced so there doesn't look to be a consensus to have these sourced unless absolutely necessary, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:44, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out that unsourced genres often stay in the infobox only because the page is rarely visited or simply because they were accepted passively, but they constitute an original research. Claims of music critics are worth more than the opinion of an user. Blueberry72 (talk) 21:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair point, My sort of assumption was that news sources could be wrong too however at the end of the day sourced is better than not. Thanks – Davey 2010 Talk 00:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I usually cite only professional reviews for genres. Thanks. Blueberry72 (talk) 10:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, many thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 16:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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Editing news 2020 #3


Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:


 * The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
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 * In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool became available.

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not a stone
a boomerang -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 15:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Meh, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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Cafe Rouge
Please let me know why you reverted my edit to the Cafe Rouge article. You left no edit summary. Thanks. Paul W (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Paul W, Apologies for the revert - I did immediately revert after - Unfortunately when my watchlist loads it then jumps up after so when I went to click on someones name it jumped up and clicked the rollback button instead so apologies for that, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 12:39, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. Understand about the page load issue - it affects my editing occasionally too.Paul W (talk) 14:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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Removing report at UAA
Hello. I noticed that you reverted one of my edits to UAA. I added a new report there, but also removed some previous reports that were already declined but still remained there for some more hours. Did you check the diff? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 17:49, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi LSGH, You removed "declined" reports whilst reporting another user with the edit summary "Adding report for KarlMarxTD" ..... You made no mention of removing declined reports .... I (nor {{u|Praxidicae)) and anyone else) can not read your mind.
 * Please leave the "declined-removals" to the admins - I've been here coming on 10 years and even I don't do work such as that (because I'm not an admin), Stick to reporting and leave the removals to admins.
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 {{sup| Talk }} 17:58, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Just leave the removals to the bot (User:HBC AIV helperbot5). It's much more hardworking than the admins. Bishonen &#124; tålk 00:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC).
 * I once saw someone remove such kind of reports because they were already "seen by too many eyes", so I thought it was fine to do so. I chose to remove those at the same time that I reported another user because I do not want to do multiple edits and flood the revision history. The reports that I tried to remove are still there, while others continue to add reports. I don't think the bot removes reports that have been declined, but it does remove those that have been acted on. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 03:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * LSGH then raise whatever issue there might be with the bot to the bots owner, 2 edits is not flooding the history. Happy editing. – Davey 2010 {{sup| Talk }} 09:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Video games Newsletter Q2 2020
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Featured list
Hi Dave! I want write a featured lists but I think I need HELP! before it I wrote two featured lists, but all of them was translated. Can you help me? (we spoke last day. you remember me?) Goth Girl (talk) 15:15, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Goth Girl, Sorry I've never wrote FLs or FAs before so your best bet is going to WP:FL and hopefully finding someone who can help, Sorry I couldn't of been of any help, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks:) Goth Girl (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, Happy editing! :), – Davey 2010 Talk 16:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Trebević web page
Dear Davey2010,

Please free to add official web site with national domain name for our Natural resourt - Trebević. Here is web site: www.trebevic.ba (.ba is national domain).

Your wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebevi%C4%87

Our mission is to give help people to get around when they are in forest.

Best regards, Armin Talic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armin.talic (talk • contribs) 12:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, It would be best to go to the talkpage of that article and explain why that link should be included, The editor who reverted you is an experienced admin so it wouldn't be advisable to revert them, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 12:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Edit on Plaxton President
Could you please tell me why you got rid of my section on the bus fire in Kingston on the Plaxton President bus type page? --Exodus662 (talk) 07:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I explained why I reverted you when I reverted you? ..... But again the bus in question wasn't a Plaxton President - Your source depicts another bus as does multiple other sources, Thanks. – Davey 2010 Talk 11:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. Do you, by any chance, know what type of bus it was? --Exodus662 (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, It's a Transbus ALX400 bodied Transbus Trident 2 :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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Messages to my talk page
I have told you 3 times to not leave messages to my talk page, Is that hard to understand???. I dont want to hear anyting from you. -- >Typ932 T&middot;C 20:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's pretty damn simple my friend - Don't edit war and don't call me an asshsole and you won't recieve warnings from me!. Cheerio. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Its pretty simple dont revert my edits if there is no need, and there is nothing against wikipedia guidelines. Get concensus for your unneeded edits. And stop acting like wikipedia police here, yo are not my dad who can told to me what I can do here and what not. You are the edit warring here, I just restored the old good look for article and you started right away reverting those articles, without any concensus or valid reasons. -- >Typ932 T&middot;C 20:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I feel like I'm getting deja vu here .... I'm sure we had this discussion just last year and I'm sure you were told to pack it in!, We're going around in circles and I'm getting rather dizzy now so you go toodle off away from my talkpage and we can let someone deal with the AN3 report, Cheerio. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:48, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Archive at Talk:Hirohiko Araki
Hello, I think you forgot to add an archive link from the talk page at Talk:Hirohiko Araki. — Goszei (talk) 23:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, Many thanks - I did forget, I've added the link now :), Thanks for letting me know much appreciated!, Happy editing, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 00:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks
For moving my reply at the Allders talk page; I'd somehow failed to notice I was replying on an archive page! Cheers, Hassocks 5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, No worries, Originally I was going to revert but figured moving was far more helpful! :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:46, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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Branded "IBAN violation"
Another case of branding something as "IBAN violation" because they didn't get their way with it even after being told by an admin that it was not IBAN violation. Don't know what's up with these folks but this user and Typ932 have much in common with their behaviour. U1 quattro  TALK  18:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I had spoke to Floq here and they said an ANI report should be done which he'd do next week, Unfortunately I'm hopeless when it comes to ANI reports and would rather leave it to someone who can word things better than me and who'd be more detailed than me so sorry I couldn't be of any help,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 18:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


 * In my opinion WP:ANI advice applies here. As it states that admins are not one's user rights to be used however one wants. U1 quattro   TALK  19:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * He's IBANNED with you so therefore he's broke that IBAN and should IMHO be blocked for it, Oh well, Happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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Class 323
Hello, it seems you are interested in improving the images on the page British Rail Class 323. As looking a the edit history there seems to be some conflict between a few editors on this topic I have created a discussion on the talk page which you might be interested in. Thanks! Python megapixel (talk) 16:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ - resolved on talkpage – Davey 2010 Talk 17:00, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Please do not vandalise the Columbia Transportation page.
Hello, Your recent four edits to the Columbia Transportation constitute vandalism. Please stop this now, as it can result in a block. Best, MTATransitFan (Questions? Comments? Just want to chat? Click here) 00:43, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Go read WP:Vandalism and once you're finished with that - Go read WP:NOTTRAVELGUIDE. – Davey 2010 Talk 01:07, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * how is this a travel guide?? Also, I know what vandalism is. You removed almost the entire page. If the roster is a "travel guide" then the entire MTA Regional Bus Operations fleet is a travel guide. Please do not edit the page anymore. I will bring an admin in if this continues.
 * A) Like I said in my edit summary we list fleetlists as prose - not gigantic tables, B) We never include service hours here because they vary from service to service and such things are seen as NOTBUSGUIDE (and plus once outdated they become useless).
 * Thanks. – Davey 2010 Talk 01:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I left you a message on Talk: Columbia Transportation. Let's carry on there.
 * Will take a look, Cheers. – Davey 2010 Talk 11:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

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Isuzu Giga
I disagree with the reinstating of the article. It is still of poor quality and only has two sources which are manufacturer sources. It is better off as a redirect. U1 quattro  TALK  14:31, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree, It needs to be updated and improved sure however I have no knowledge of the truck nor do I speak Japanese. It's better off as an article. – Davey 2010 Talk 14:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Then the disagreement is not valid as you have not provided any reason based on which the article should stay. You don't know about the subject neither the sources you have cited are reliable third party sources. U1 quattro   TALK  15:55, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Like I said to you Yes the article still needs major improvements however you nominated the article on the basis of "An article with no source whatsoever" - The article has since been sourced so therefore you have no valid reason to reinstate the redirect. Also only one person participated in that AFD and did not provide any reason to redirect other than "Redirect: to Isuzu_Motors#Current_commercial_vehicles" so I would say you have no consensus at all to continue the redirect.
 * If you have a problem go to AFD. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes. I have gone there and have added another reason. You however have deleted a talk page discussion without any reason. If the article is so dear to you then you should be able to explain why it should stay. U1 quattro   TALK  16:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Good for you. It's like you're simply looking for a reason to delete it. Why not improve it and source it ?, BEBOLD and all that.
 * Just remember U1 we're here to give our readers knowledge ... just remember that. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * And that article fails to provide sound knowledge to readers about the subject matter. Sourcing it a big hindrance as there are no third party sources covering it. That's why I'm against it staying. U1 quattro   TALK  16:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Wrong, The article provides basic knowledge to our readers however it can provide more if people put effort in it, I've done my bit and have done the best I can with it. You didn't state that at that time, You simply stated it was unsourced... so I sourced it ... and now you're still unhappy with it, Either way not my problem. You had a problem = I fixed that problem. Goodbye. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-33
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Recent changes
 * FileImporter and FileExporter became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact.

Problems
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This is not an acceptable edit summary
Here. This will likely get you blocked if it happens again. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:05, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Floq, Understood, My apologies for that, Having spent the last 3-4 days on that article alone the last thing anyone wants to see is someone come over and just delete everything .. so that comment was more out of frustration than anything, Still I shouldn't of said it,
 * I've apologised to U1 for it too,
 * Apologies again, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for apologizing to U1Q. That happens around here so much less often than it should, it's nice to see it happen. This warning was probably more abrupt than called for, too, so I'll do my bit and apologize for the tone. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Floq, No worries I'll always hold my hands up and apologise for things I've said or done wrong, I agree - Apologies on here are unfortunately rare,
 * No apology necessary - The tone was fine, I'm counting my lucky stars I wasn't blocked to be honest!, Anyway thanks for your message, Hope you and yours have been okay,
 * Take care Floq, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:53, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

FFS
Good job further extending the idiotic drama and increasing the amount of trolling happening I hope you're pleased with yourself. --JBL (talk) 21:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No JBL, Leaving it there whilst telling everyone else "You're being trolled" increases the drama, Removing or striking his comment with all comments moved to talkpage decreases the drama. – Davey 2010' Talk 21:08, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * The new OOUI version will not work with Internet Explorer 8. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in Tech/News/2020/17. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems.

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Car category rangeblock
If you mean the range of the last two IPs here, unfortunately that's too wide of a range to block; that's a /14 range, and the largest range we can block on IPv4 is /16, and even that would carry too much collateral damage in this case. OhNo itsJamie Talk 18:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Ah no sorry I didn't mean the range for those 2, I know on some occasions he's come back as the same IP but the end 2 numbers have been different (IE "2.123." has remained the same but numbers after that have been different), I would assume blocking on 2.123 would be almost impossible as would assume that's an entire area etc, (My knowledge of rangeblocks isn't great!),
 * Anyway many thanks for your swift help, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 18:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Reply tool


The Reply tool  has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.


 * More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They  posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
 * Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70% of them used the tool multiple times. About 60% of them used it on multiple days.
 * Comments from Wikipedia editors are positive. One said, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة.  ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment. And the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")

The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese, Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your wiki, please tell User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF).

The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

New requirements for user signatures

 * The new requirements for custom user signatures began on 6 July 2020. If you try to create a custom signature that does not meet the requirements, you will get an error message.
 * Existing custom signatures that do not meet the new requirements will be unaffected temporarily . Eventually, all custom signatures will need to meet the new requirements. You can check your signature and see lists of active editors whose custom signatures need to be corrected.  Volunteers have been contacting editors who need to change their custom signatures.  If you need to change your custom signature, then please read the help page.

Next: New discussion tool
Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. To follow the development of this new tool, please put the New Discussion Tool project page on your watchlist.

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Problems
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Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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Greatest Hits Radio Swindon
Hi Davey2010, I noticed that you have recently removed the old Jack FM logo, but left the the text info. This makes it a bit untidy, so I completely removed the text and the deleted file png completely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoctorStrange97 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Greatest Hits Radio Swindon
Hi Davey2010, I noticed that you have recently removed the old Jack FM logo, but left the the text info. This makes it a bit untidy, so I completely removed the text and the deleted file png completely. DoctorStrange97 (talk) 15:08, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi DoctorStrange97, Yeah sorry about that, I thought it was hidden recently but apparentkly not, Many thanks for removing it, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

You're very welcome.DoctorStrange97 (talk) 21:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2020-37
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Changes later this week
 * Normally pages can be moved to a title that has no existing page yet or to a page that has only one revision, which is a redirect to the page to be moved. A new user right allows editors to move pages over one-revision pages that redirect to anywhere.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 September. It will be on all wikis from 10 September (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg All MediaWiki API modules will now use  instead of  . This was inconsistent before.

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 * OTRS will be updated to a new version. This will probably take around two days. OTRS agents will not have access to the system during these days. Emails that come in during the update will be delivered when the update is done. The plan is to start around 08:00 UTC on 14 September. This could change.
 * The Wikipedia Android app will send push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will need Google Play Services to work. It will also be possible to get the app without Google Play Services but push notifications will not work. Google Play Services is also used to make the app work for Android 4.4 users.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia code review could move to GitLab. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. You can take part in the consultation.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Dropdown menus in the Vector skin use a  class. This will not work in the future. Scripts can use   instead.   and   will also not work. Some scripts need to be updated. You can read more in Phabricator.

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Eagle Radio?
Hi, I'm afraid that user Tod55 has moved page Greatest Hits Radio back to Eagle Radio again without a good reason. Whats his problem?DoctorStrange97 (talk) 15:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi DoctorStrange97, Just commented there before I saw your post, Yeah I'm slightly confused by it - Providing the history's all kept I don't see why it would need to remain at the old name?, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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Problems
 * The Wikipedia apps briefly showed pages without CSS last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours.

Changes later this week
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Regarding the logo on Indian Railways
I'll keep this brief, there's text on the train that can't be read clearly at 180px. Is there any particular issue with a logo size value of 250px? <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px mediumturquoise, -4px -4px 20px darkorchid"> Pro lix 💬 18:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Up until this very second I had no idea there was even text on the train - Even at 250px I still cannot read the text on it so it would need to be higher than 250px to please everyone however obviously that would be silly, I guess you could always crop that bit of text and put it in the article somewhere if it's really that important however having the logo huge for the sake of some tiny Indian text in the middle is IMHO silly, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 18:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think it reads perfectly fine at 250px, it doesn't need to be any bigger than that. That aside, why is 250px too big? <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px mediumturquoise, -4px -4px 20px darkorchid"> Pro lix 💬 18:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well good for you. Well because it is ?, The current sizing is adequate and doesn't need enlarging for the sake of some text that English readers wouldn't understand. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , that seems to be a very weak line of reasoning. 250px isn't too big, most logos on wikipedia are that size. Care to point out the MOS that says 250 is too big? <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px mediumturquoise, -4px -4px 20px darkorchid"> Pro lix 💬 18:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Most logos here are 150px depennding on the logo itself. 250px is too big, Care to get the fuck off my talkpage?. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , you have a colourful personality. If you can't link me the MOS that backs up your claims I'll be reverting your edit. Have a nice day. <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px mediumturquoise, -4px -4px 20px darkorchid"> Pro lix 💬 19:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well unfortunately for you we have wp:BRD so you'd need to get consensus, Cheerio!. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:10, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , that works too, thanks for pointing it out. <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px mediumturquoise, -4px -4px 20px darkorchid"> Pro lix 💬 19:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, Happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It would actually be preferable never to use pixels as pixels are not a unit of length. For example, a Samsung Galaxy S20 has a 6.2" 3200×1440 (563 ppi) display. On a 27" 1080p desktop monitor, you'd only have 82 ppi. Unfortunately MediaWiki only supports relative sizes for thumbnails. (using the upright parameter) If users want to read the text on the train of the Indian Railways logo, they'll have to view the full version. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:53, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , thank you for that. I hadn't considered how the same image could look vastly different on different devices depending upon the resolution of the screen. <span style="font family:Lobster;text-shadow: 4px 4px 20px mediumturquoise, -4px -4px 20px darkorchid"> Pro lix 💬 07:50, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I need consensus
Hey Davey. Hope you don't mind me asking for help.. See Template talk:Infobox video game. Seems like a no-brainer to use P577 from Wikidata if the local release parameter is absent, but apparently no.

I don't like starting an RfC here, which I'm guessing is what ferret is hinting at. I don't understand the rules and would prefer nobody attempts to explain them to me. I just get shouted at. I can't, won't and don't understand why "We should change this fucking thing" is wrong and "We should change this thing (new line) Support, we should change this fucking thing" is alright. At least that's how I think it works, and I shan't comprehend it.

Can you help? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, Sorry for getting back to you so late, RFCs are the best thing when it comes to getting consensus (they're my go to) however in this case this would appear to be the only label that isn't invoked from Wikidata and so getting consensus for it would seem daft given others have been accepted or added without issue. Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again, Ferret has replied and being absolutely honest I didn't understand a single word of their reply, Mainly because I don't work with Templates, So I'm afraid you'll need to get consensus (or talk to someone who works with Templates), Sorry I couldn't be of any help, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 12:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I forgot to reply I think. Thanks for looking at it, I think I'll just let it rest for now. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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Sorry
Sorry about the redundant comment. I was looking at you contribution history, and missed the third party edit summary on your talk page. Meters (talk) 04:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 10:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Apology accepted
Rcarter555 (talk) 15:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Rcarter555, Thank you that means a lot, Happy editing, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:49, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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Recent changes Problems
 * Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete.
 * Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days.
 * Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

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 * You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
 * The link colours could change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear. You can read more in Phabricator.
 * In your preferences you can choose to get different notifications on the web or by email. You will see  as one of the alternatives later this week. This is because the Android and iOS Wikipedia apps will use push notifications for those who want them. You can see the preferences on the test wiki. The goal is to have push notifications on Android in October and on iOS in early 2021.
 * You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
 * You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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Recent changes
 * There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
 * You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page.

Problems
 * There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late.
 * Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
 * Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in  is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis.

Future changes
 * You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour.

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AirAsia Japan
AirAsia Japan stopped operating. So I updated the article to reflect this and provided a citation. Why did you revert the edit? Jellysandwich0 (talk) 15:08, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Ah my apologies - I was meant to have self reverted but RL called, I've gone ahead and self reverted now, Apologies again, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:33, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Video games Newsletter Q3 2020
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Greatest Hits Radio
The RfC at WT:WPRS has concluded with four !votes in favor of having the pre-rollup station articles at pre-rollup names. I've already done Dream 100 FM; is it possible to do much the same with the others? Raymie (t • c) 00:25, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Thanks for the heads up, I was simply going to revert back to pre-GHR, add a simple GHR merger sentence and then move it, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 08:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
<div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"> Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:32, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, 10 years ago today I created this account, Where has the time gone?, Ofcourse I only started editing in 2013 but still certainly doesn't feel like I've been here for 7 odd years, Ah well thanks for your wishes :), Happy editing!, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 18:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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Problems
 * Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late.

Changes later this week
 * Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg A new stable version of Pywikibot is coming soon.

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Script fix
I appreciate your gratitude, but I am a Luddite compared to most on here and relied upon the guidance/examples of. They deserve the credit, not me! GiantSnowman 21:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Morning {{u|GiantSnowman)), I copied TheDJs code as well as Medusas and neither worked whereas yours did, I did notice Medusa created the "Testing.js" page but assumed that was a test for himself whereas you provided something that worked and plus you were kind enough to provide a diff for your fix. I've read the recent discussion but I'm happy with the fix you provided - It works so that's all I care about :), Happy editing, – Davey 2010 {{sup| Talk }} 08:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

The Danielle Lloyd business
I've begun discussion at the BLP noticeboard, which may be of interest to you. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

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up to
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains/Archive:_2019#RfC_about_station_layouts_and_exits current rollback: 1 edit 19:29, 1 October 2020 diff hist -1,021‎  Bukit Nanas Monorail station ‎ →‎Exits and Entrances: removed as per

October 2020
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. – bradv  🍁  19:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * So it's absolutely fine to be poked yet the moment I become angry at said poking I'm the one in the wrong?, Right okay. Your blocking has simply proven my point - This place has become a circus. Anywho I'm finally done with the project. Thanks to those who have helped me and supported over the years. Take care all. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Dude. I think it's a matter of degree. If someone tells me my hat looks silly, I can't burn down their house and kick their dog, right?  On reflection, it does look a little pokey-ish to me, and I wish it had not been posted the first time.  But you need to let things roll off your back a little, and not lead you to do things that are clearly against a few policies.  I'm quite probably projecting, because I'm noticing myself being more on-edge than usual, but I'm wondering if something is making you more easily fly off the handle lately?  I'm reminded of your getting angry really quickly last week too.  Hope all is going well for you IRL, and ... this looks snotty, but isn't ... a few days off might be just what the Dr. ordered. Take care, --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Floq, Very fair point you wouldn't do such extreme actions over a silly comment and maybe my flying off the handle yesterday could be seen as being a tad extreme, I believe AG dragged me to ANI over something silly before so there's history between us.
 * IRL everything's much better now than it was say 2-3 months ago, Mentally I'm better now or atleast getting there but when someone out of the blue comes along and tells me "you read that wrong" - I see that comment as someone trying to poke me more than anything especially when as I said there's been history between us.
 * Unfortunately the FO's/flying off the handle have been a thing since I've been here and I believe I was nearly indeffed over it too although I had at one point adjusted to using different phrases but unfortunately that doesn't appear to have lasted,
 * Take care Floq and thank you for reaching out here, I always appreciate and take onboard everything you say here. Thank you for your help and support over the years it means a lot so thanks again, Take care Floq (And if I don't return then I wish you all the very best).


 * - Please accept my sincere and unreserved apologies for the edit summary used yesterday, The language shouldn't of been used and I have never ever once thought you were a troll either. When someone's quite clearly angry the last thing anyone should ever do is template someone as that just inflames the situation, Even if policies or whatnot were broken a gentle message goes a long way and certainly is more appreciated than a templated warning but either way there's no excuse for the edit summary so I sincerely apologise for saying what I did.


 * Hi, Many thanks for your kind words and likewise you've helped me a lot on this project (as has Floq and countless others) and my thanks on here will never be enough but thank you for your help on here and thank you for the birthday wishes too, Yeah all is well thanks much better now than when lockdown was a thing that's for sure, Hope you're doing well mate, Take care (And if I don't return then I wish you all the very best).


 * Many thanks !, Take care.


 * Hey, No harm done, It was nice to recieve something positive I guess :). Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries! I am glad to hear things are looking up. I certainly didn’t enjoy the lockdown much either to be honest, and Wales is about to lock down again in fifteen minutes! I am doing alright otherwise. Take all the time you need and hopefully I’ll see you around very soon. :) Patient Zerotalk 16:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


 * No problems. Per what I said on ANI I was actually trying to switch round the WP:AN3, WP:3RR, and Template:uw-3rr and didn't read WP:3RR properly.  In fact I've just seen Template:Uw-3rr-alt which might have been a option if combined with some specific text.  Had I gathered an ANI was in progress, and perhaps I should have by checking user contributions, I wouldn't have issued the WP:3RR.  But these things sometimes get missed in realtime.  The main point is I really like your considered response to the incident (rather than simply say raising an unblock request) and would support an unblock request unless you've decided to ride the 48 hours out (which actually can be a positive thing sometimes ... at least that's what I find with mini-self-blocks which I sometimes self-enforce ... though mostly when I have to concentrate on something real life).  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:24, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, No worries, You were doing what you thought was best at the time - I've certainly done things thinking I was de-escalating the situation when in fact I was unintentionally making things worse so I understand your actions etc and obviously I hold no grudges with you or anyone else.
 * Personally I believe blocks should be ridden out and in some respects believe the block was deserved (and some could say it should've of been for longer!)
 * Thanks for starting an unblock discussion at ANi but honestly I have no problems with the length and tbh I'm catching up on much needed work at Commons so I'm atleast making myself useful somewhere :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 18:39, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Went ahead and unblocked since this seems to meet ’s criteria for an unblock and it’d been brought up at ANI. Matter seems to be resolved from where I’m sitting. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I agree this is resolved. Davey2010, I'm glad to see your comments here – happy editing. – bradv  🍁  23:31, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for unblocking I appreciate that, Never dreamed that I'd actually get blocked on my birthday of all days but hey ho. Thanks  for blocking me as lets be honest I would've continued to remove their comment although I'm grateful it wasn't for longer than 48h!, Anyway onwards and upwards, Thanks. – Davey 2010 Talk 10:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
<div style="display: flex; align-items: center; height: 100px; padding: 1em; border: solid 3px #2B547E; background-color: #E6E6FA;"> Wishing Davey2010 a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday, Dave. I hope all is well? I remember many years ago when you helped me out on here, as I was just getting started. Just wanted you to remember you were of such great help to me back then and I’m very grateful that you took me under your wing. Hope to see you back when everything cools down again. We’re losing too many good eggs. Patient Zerotalk 23:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Lol. With nothing but love for the birthday committee, and without saying Davey did or did not deserve this block, dropping by a blocked editor's talk page with a big ol' banner wishing them a "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" is a bit dystopian. Read the room, Chris. ~Swarm~  {sting} 03:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocks are neither punitive nor a damnatio against the editor involved. Davey's birthday has been listed as October 22nd and I recognized it under WP:BDC as I do for many such birthdays and anniversaries.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I know, just a lighthearted jest. ~Swarm~  {sting} 23:41, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Ford Fiesta (fifth generation)
Hello, Davey2010,

Thank you for creating Ford Fiesta (fifth generation).

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

"Please have a look and remove WP:COPYVIO. Wikipedia is detecting 84.5% copy-paste from https://rotujiwecoji.nationwidesecretarial.com/fiesta-ford-6109sj.html"

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~ Amkgp 💬  17:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello ~ Amkgp, As stated in the edit summary I'm simply splitting the article (IE copying the section from one article to another) - The text is not mine so your concerns would need to be taken to Talk:Ford Fiesta or Talk:Ford Fiesta (fifth generation), Thanks. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Oh I see....I think it is a reverse copyvio. No issues then. ~ Amkgp  💬  17:15, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your improvements to the page Casey Calvert (actress)! What do you think of my research on the article? What do you think of my having successfully rescued it from deletion? Right cite (talk) 19:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Right cite, Thanks and thanks for your improvements to the article too, Happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:46, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-44
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Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour.
 * Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can.
 * There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits.
 * The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized.

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Very useful items
See --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Special:Mute/AlgaeGraphix.
 * 2) WP:WALK.


 * Hello Floquenbeam, Sound advice - I planned to do those anyway - Not a battle worth dying for!. Once I've sourced the articles I wanted to I plan to leave the project after for a while, Tbh I'm torn between retiring and vanishing right now but for the time being articles here are far more important than silly squabbles that will be forgotten in a week!, Thanks as always for your sound advice. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Apology

 * Before I leave project for some time I wanted to reach out and sincerely apologise for the edit summaries/comments towards you, These shouldn't of been said to you nor anyone else on this project for that matter - There are means and ways telling people to go away and it really isn't that,
 * I've also realised my language here has certainly gotten worse over the years and I genuinely feel like my behaviour now (if that's the right word) is incompatible with the project so before I'm shown the door for good I figured a long break might do me the world of good.
 * I'm not this guy who randomly tells people to F off and I feel like I've now pictured myself to be this absolute A hole who goes around telling everyone to F off when in fact I'm not and I don't. I've never shyed a way from the fact I have a temper problem which I've had since I was a child however IRL I don't have a lot of patience that's literally it ... If something doesn't go well for instance in the kitchen I become agitated etc etc.


 * Still there's no excuse for my language here and I know If I don't change soon my tenure here will be cut very short.
 * Anyway I'm sorry again AlgaeGraphix for the edit summaries/comments and I'm sincerely sorry to anyone else who I've used bad language/stupid comments at.
 * Not sure if I'll ever be back but for now thanks all who have helped and supported me throughout my years here It really does mean a lot,
 * Thanks, Kind Regards, Dave // – Davey 2010 Talk 16:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, Davey, people in general, perhaps including you, tend to all have cabin fever now. Tempers seem to be flaring all over the project, and I certainly feel a lack of patience in myself. I hope you have a good break and that you do return, refreshed! Bishonen &#124; tålk 16:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC).


 * Thank you; and when you return, I hope you live up to the Civility and Diplomacy Barnstars that you earned in the past. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 00:40, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Man alive, not you as well. Everybody seems to be leaving :-( <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * it was & now you, it’s saddening(to put it mildly), seeing well-meaning editors leave the project I agree a 100% with . I really do hope you return back to editing sooner than later.Celestina007 (talk) 13:59, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * thank you for what you gave us, take a break, and think about what counts --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 30 October 2020 (UTC)


 * All the best for whatever happens in the future, but you've left a substantial legacy here. Jules  (Mrjulesd) 10:39, 31 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bishonen, Ritchie, Celestina007, Gerda and Mrjulesd for your kind words here, Your words do mean a lot to me. Unfortunately I just don't have that mindset to edit here anymore, The virus, lockdowns etc have all affected me mentally and sadly that doesn't look to improve what with the new 4week lockdown imposed in the UK. Anyway thanks again for your kind words here it means a lot.
 * In the meantime stay safe and take care, Thanks, Regards, Dave // – Davey 2010 Talk 14:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Retired?
I'm confused. Since when? Why?

I just came here to shout. People drive me crazy. :-/ You know how it is. Aaaaaargh. :-( — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:05, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you help with the creation of a policy proposal? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:22, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hey Alexis Jazz, Hope you and yours are safe and okay,
 * Well where do I begin .... long story short this happened, followed by some soul-searching, became depressed and suicidal, rest is history as they say. Once I've sourced the articles that are on my list I plan to scramble my password and leave but untill then I'll still be around.
 * Haha I know that feeling all too well! :), You could try some meditation or failing that a nice alcholic beverage of your preference! :).
 * I'd love too but being honest images aren't my fortay here so you'd probably be best asking someone more knowledge such as, Sorry I couldn't be of more help :(, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 01:01, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please don't scramble your password. Log out, take a break, but don't burn any bridges. We all make mistakes. You recognize your mistakes and even apologize for them. You have any idea how rare of a quality that is? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you try adding  to User:Davey2010/common.js and enter some profanity in an edit window without publishing it? (make sure you have "Syntax highlighting" disabled, this currently only works with the plain text source editor) Even if only just for laughs. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:42, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Honestly I feel like I've burnt too many bridges here, True but there's only so many times one can apologise - after a while it becomes meaningless.
 * Anyway thanks for popping by :), Take care and all the best Alexis. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:10, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please just ask for a self-requested block for a couple of months or whatever. If you don't wish to come back after that, that's up to you. I can understand needing a break from the madness that is wiki, but don't deny your future self this. Your future self will scream at your past self which is currently your current self for doing this. Think of the kittens! — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:47, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, Love the last part of your comment! - That will almost certainly happen. Unfortunately I've convinced myself certain things which I fear is due to me being depressed. Think it's fair to say 2020 has been hard on everyone!. Anyway think a forced break will do me some good. Thank you for caring it means a lot Alexis!. Stay safe and take care, Kind Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:44, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I had to think for a while. Depression and thinking of suicide is no light topic. I know I can't convince you, that I can't show you how it distorts your vision of reality. You are aware it does, but you can't see to what degree. I know I can't explain to you that people do forget and ultimately accept imperfections of each other as long as they contribute positively overall (which you do!). I know I can't convince you to stay, and I know that if I tried I'd only drive you further away.
 * But please honor this one request I make. If you must burn a bridge, burn it mentally. Write down a new password (with a pen on a piece of paper), something sufficiently random that you won't be able to remember tomorrow and change your password to that. Put the paper in an envelope and write "Don't open until you're feeling awesome again!" on it. Tape it shut and store it with your tax administration (or something else you never need/want to look at again). I'll be seeing you. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Alexis, Thanks for your suggestion - It sounds a bloody brilliant idea I'll certainly keep that in mind!, Thank you for listening as well as for your help you really don't know how much that means to me like seriously so thank you so much!.
 * It's amazing what 6 hours of walking a day in the countryside can do!, Certainly beats the life I was living 2 days ago that's for sure!
 * Thank you for caring and for lending your ear it does mean a lot!,
 * I hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year,
 * Take care Alexis & stay safe, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

Hello there! — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) wishes you & yours the very best of the season!

Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia, here's to: hoping your holiday time is wonderful and - especially - that the New Year 2021 will be an improvement upon the old of 2020. CHEERS!

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 * And you can always mail me. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Thanks Ozzie and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:25, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Berkhamsted School
Hi, we could discuss on the talk page if you like, but you may not be aware that someone has been trying to get the non-notable person "Simon Minter" onto as many pages as possible for years. It's been reverted (and not only by me) tens of time, at the very least, on that page along with others such as Minter (surname). The list on the school page is restricted to notable alumni, and all have their own pages on Wikipedia to establish that fact. This person doesn't, and has piped the link to Sidemen (YouTube group) on which he is mentioned. But as you know, notability can't be established merely by pointing to another Wikipedia article on which there happens to be a mention: it has to be supported by proper reliable references. And there has never been anything that would enable this Simon Minter to maintain a page of his own. I'd like to remove the addition on that basis. MichaelMaggs (talk) 12:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi MichaelMaggs, Apologies for the delayed response, My apologies for also reverting you, My main and only issue was that you reverted stating "unsourced" which to me didn't make sense as that list wasn't sourced anyway ... however I should've done my due diligence and properly checked instead of skimming everything so my apologies for reverting you, I've gone ahead and undone my edit as completely agree with you redirects aren't good enough.
 * Thank you for taking the time to come here, Take care and stay safe, (And hope you and yours have a lovely Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year), Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reading this and reviewing the edit, I appreciate it. And with very best wishes to you, too, for Christmas and the New Year. MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, Many thanks, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 22:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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BOZ (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

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I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. Feel free to take a "Happy Holidays" or "Season's Greetings" if you prefer. :) BOZ (talk) 05:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho
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★Trekker (talk) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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Season's Greetings



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 * Cheers mate! I hope all this crap leaves us soon, so we can all feel better again. Dunno about you but my head has been seriously done in since spring. It's good to hear from you Davey. Don't get down son. Don't let the bastards grind you down, human or virus! Si. Simon Adler (talk) 02:49, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Si, Good to hear from you too! :), I know mate so do I, I miss the old normal and hope next year we return to it!, Same here I've experienced emotions and thoughts I wish to never experience again!, Truth be told mate I'm not even looking forward to Crimbo - just want the year over and done with!.
 * Anyway mate hope you've been safe and well throughout all of this and I hope you and yours have a lovely Christmas and most certainly have a much better 2021!, Stay safe mate and likewise don't let people or the virus grind you down neither!. All the best for 2021 mate. Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 22:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho
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Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas
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Hello Davey2010: From high in the Canadian Arctic I hope you enjoy the holiday season, Quviasukvik, the Winter or Summer solstice, Christmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah or even the Saturnalia, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 10:06, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


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Merry Christmas!
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 * Hi, Haha usually I'm sensible even at Christmas but after the awful year we've all had I think we can all oversnack this year , Many thanks for your lovely greeting - Love the little hamster!V :), Have a very merry christmas and a very happy new year :), Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 22:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy holidays
This year, many people had COVID to fear, The holidays are getting near, One thing that will be clear, We will still have holiday cheer, Happy holidays and happy new year!! From Interstellarity (talk) 23:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Interstellarity, Without a doubt the best greeting of 2020 if not ever!, Love the poem beyond words!,
 * Couldn't agree more we all still have holiday cheer!, Up until now I wanted the year done with but you know what you're right! - The virus has took a lot from us all, It's not taking our holiday cheer!!!.
 * I hope you have a lovely Christmas and a very healthy and happy new year.
 * Thanks again for this poem!. I think it's saved my Christmas!. Take care Interstellarity, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:14, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!
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 * Hi Crystallizedcarbon, Haha others may see it as "door spam"! :), Yeah all's good here thanks, I'm hope is well with you and yours, Many thanks and I wish you and yours a very Happy and Healthy 2021!, Take care Crystallizedcarbon, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:50, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, thankfully we are all fine also. We are being careful and looking with hope to 2021. Please also take care. Best regards from Spain. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 18:49, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Good good that's what I like to hear!, We can't do much more than be careful and follow advice/rules given, Hopefully 2021 will be a much much better year for us all, Anyway will do and you take care too mate, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:08, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!!!
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''Adapted from Xmas6. Spread the cheer by adding to their talk page.''

Happy holidays, and thank you for the template!

 * Hi Netherzone, Many thanks for the greeting!, Hope you had a lovely Christmas :), Haha thanks!, Think it's been recycled to death at this point lol. Anyway hope you are having or had a lovely Christmas and hope you have a Happy and Healthy New Year :) – Davey 2010 Talk 19:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Re: Merry Christmas
I thank you. Merry Christmas to you too and thank you for your contributions as well! Jhenderson 7 7 7  19:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey User:Jhenderson777, Many thanks much appreciated! :), Stay safe mate, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Thanks for the greetings. Merry Christmas and a happy 2021 to you too! --RegentsPark (comment) 19:49, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You're more than welcome RegentsPark and thank you for yours, All the best for 2021 mate, Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Happy New Year!

 * Hi, Many thanks for your lovely greeting, I hope you and yours had a lovely Crimbo and also hope yous have a happy and healthy New Year (I'll send News Years templates on New Years Eve), Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:17, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
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 * Hi, Many thanks for your greeting, I hope you and yours had a lovely Crimbo and also hope yous have a happy and healthy New Year (I'll send New Years templates on New Years Eve), Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:15, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Best wishes for 2021!

 * Hi Arjuno, Many thanks and I too wish you and your family a healthy, safe and happy new year. Lets hope 2021 will be a much better year. – Davey 2010 Talk 23:17, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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Hi, Many thanks and I too wish you and your family a healthy, safe and happy new year. Lets hope 2021 will be a much better year for all of us!. Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Abishe (talk) — is wishing you a Happy New Year! It's the last day of 2024 and tomorrow will be . Hope the coming year brings pleasures for you. Have a prosperous, enjoyable and a productive . This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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 * Hi & , Many thanks for your New Year wishes and I too wish you and your families a healthy, safe and happy new year. Lets hope 2021 will be a much better year for all of us!. Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:39, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
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Empire AS  Talk ! — is wishing you a Happy New Year! It's the last day of 2020 and tomorrow will be . Hope the coming year brings pleasures for you. Have a prosperous, enjoyable and a productive . This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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Empire AS  Talk ! 19:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Many thanks Empire AS for your New Year wishes and I too wish you and your family a healthy, safe and happy new year. Lets hope 2021 will be a much better year for all of us!. Warm Regards, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks :)  Empire AS   Talk ! 19:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)