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See.....
Featured article candidates/Millwall F.C.–West Ham United F.C. rivalry/archive1 - worth some input if you have time. Would be fun on mainpage...I'll buff the Spurs article one of these days..... :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Good luck
I know you've been busy lately, but thanks for everything you've done and for the laughs we've had on Wikipedia. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Now, what brought that on? --Dweller (talk) 21:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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WP:BLPCRIME and Ronn Torossian
Regarding your edit in Ronn Torossian, it might be semantics, but in both cases, Torossian isn't accused of a crime, at least in the felonies and misdemeanors sense. In one, it's actually in response to Torossian suing his former HR director, not the other way around - though the stuff that's come out of it is pretty sordid so I understand why you wouldn't want to include it in the article. In the other, his attorney acknowledges the libel suit and based on what's in the source article, he appears to have admitted to sockpuppetry (which, incidentally, fits in with tactics employed by his firm in the Agriprocessors scandal and here on Wikipedia). Mosmof (talk) 14:23, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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Renaming my page please
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Renaming my page please
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Heads up
Heads up, at Pixies, a few uncited statements: I think those are it, actually.
 * 1) Last sentence of sect, Reunion (2003–12)
 * 2) Last sentence of sect, Kim Deal's departure, "Bagboy" and new material (2013–present)

Shouldn't be too hard to address, or simply remove those uncited parts.

Good luck,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I think you're probably right. --Dweller (talk) 10:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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Main Page appearance: Ipswich Town F.C.
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Ipswich Town Football Club are an English professional football team based in Ipswich, Suffolk. As of the 2013–14 season, they play in the Football League Championship, having last appeared in the Premier League in 2001–02, making them the league's longest-serving club. The club was founded in 1878 but did not turn professional until 1936, joining the Football League in 1938. They play their home games at Portman Road in Ipswich. The only fully professional football club in Suffolk, they have a long-standing and fierce rivalry with Norwich City in Norfolk, with whom they have contested the East Anglian derby 138 times since 1902. Ipswich won the English league title in 1961–62, and have twice finished runners-up. They won the FA Cup in 1977–78, and the UEFA Cup in 1980–81. They have competed in the top two tiers of English football uninterrupted since 1957–58, currently the longest streak among Championship clubs. They have competed in all three European club competitions, and have never lost at home in European competition. Former managers include Alf Ramsey (statue at Portman Road pictured) and Bobby Robson, both of whom later managed the England national team.

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 * What an utterly horrific topic for Main Page. Surely there must be some sort of rule that protects minors from having to see such noxiousness? --Dweller (talk) 13:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

For your information
You need to check out User:Bowsier and User:Xtrastress, revert all their edits and put them in the Daft SPI. In addition, J. Bentley (Sheffield cricketer), an entirely satisfactory article created by AA three months ago has been attacked no less than eleven times now. Semi-protection? 109.157.252.89 (talk) 10:31, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Ronn Torossian
See you have assisted in past. Can you pls revisit Richielapiock (talk) 10:12, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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Main page TFAs
Hey dude, long time no speak. On the auspicious occasion of the Tractor Boys getting their rightful place at the high table of Wikipedia, it suddenly struck me, "how many TFAs have The Dwelling Man combo had"? What do you reckon? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:03, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it's eight, Gunny, England managers, Bobby Robson, Bill O' Reilly, Nardge, Ipshite, Gilchs, Windies clicket tour. Pretty good I reckon, perhaps we should elect ourselves to Arbcom?  The Rambling Man (talk) 17:10, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. I certainly contributed to those. Did you help with the Bodyline FAR rescue? --Dweller (talk) 09:15, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Bradman? Barnes? Morris? You've definitely missed Shep! See User:Dweller/Featured. --Dweller (talk) 09:21, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * On the main page? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:17, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

The Boat Race 2012
Dude, when you're back in the swing of things, do me a favour and get stuck in with me on this. It's almost ready for peer review/FAC, but it needs independent eyes which neither I or Bencherlite can provide. Many thanks, much love. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

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Auditing old FAs

 * User:Dweller/Featured Articles that haven't been on Main Page

I think another step that we can take with this list is to put some of the older ones up for FAR. I left comments on the talk page of Central Coast Mariners FC last year, and as many of them are still unaddressed, I've started an FAR for it today. Do you think you might like to do the same for one (or more) that you've looked at in the past? BencherliteTalk 19:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
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Sleeping Dogs
Hey man! Would you consider doing a peer review, or giving some feedback on Sleeping Dogs (video game)? I would like to get some feedback about issues that need to be resolved. After that, I would like to nominate it for a featured article. Thanks for you for your cooperation! URDNEXT (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Mail
Hi, in case you haven't seen it I've sent you an e-mail. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied. Perhaps unhelpfully, but not through lack of desire to help. --Dweller (talk) 22:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I have done as Matty and sent you another (have to, as i have no idea what exactly was discussed in the message he sent you), please reply also via e-mail. Attentively --AL (talk) 23:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the clearing up, sorry for the misunderstanding. --AL (talk) 01:24, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Hope it works out well for you. --Dweller (talk) 09:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Ronn torossian
Dweller, you wrote on the talk page that you would take a look at the article. Did you? Because a user named Huon thinks it needs extensive changes to meet Wikipedia's policies. We have been arguing very pointlessly on the talk page, and I think some other opinions might level both his and my heads. Thanks, --Ravpapa (talk) 13:03, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Ronn torossian
Dweller, you wrote on the talk page that you would take a look at the article. Did you? Because a user named Huon thinks it needs extensive changes to meet Wikipedia's policies. We have been arguing very pointlessly on the talk page, and I think some other opinions might level both his and my heads. Thanks, --Ravpapa (talk) 13:05, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Ronn torossian
Dweller, you wrote on the talk page that you would take a look at the article. Did you? Because a user named Huon thinks it needs extensive changes to meet Wikipedia's policies. We have been arguing very pointlessly on the talk page, and I think some other opinions might level both his and my heads. Thanks, --Ravpapa (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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FAR review request
Hi Dweller. I'm trying to pull off an improbable FAR save with the Central Coast Mariners FC article, and I was referred to you since you have experience bringing soccer/football team articles to FA. If you have any spare time, please consider taking a look at this article and seeing if anything still needs to be done. I don't have much past experience with similar articles or what should be included in them, so any input would be very helpful. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 16:09, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

July 2014
Hello, I'm Brookie. I noticed that you made a change to an article, List of Old Millfieldians, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!}  (Whisper...) 18:01, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * So you removed my addition of a single entry because it wasn't referenced, in a page deluged with unreferenced material. What made my edit so special? And what makes the claim I'm making so strong, strange, dubious and worthy of challenge that you'd want to remove it? --Dweller (talk) 14:48, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Your edit was red-linked and had no external sources; most of the entries on that page are blue linked or have external references - don't be so defensive - just add a reliable source as you know you should.  Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!}  (Whisper...) 16:39, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with redlinks and nothing wrong with adding uncontentious entries to a list. What's the deadline? I'll get round to turning the redlink blue when I can. --Dweller (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Your response to my snide remark at Torossian
Very elegant and appropriate. Thank you, --Ravpapa (talk) 02:26, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Operation Protective Edge edits concerns

 * Hi. I am getting seriously worried by User Ezzex's edits. He now appears to be taking out sources based purely on ethnicity. "Too jewish" seems to be the rationale. This is seriously anti-WP behaviour. Please take a look at recent eds there. I may have inadvertendly broken the 1 RR rule. I was so freaked I forgot to use rollback. That would be a first for me and I sincerely apologise to the community if I have. Cheers Irondome (talk) 22:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello - today (10th) he put the tag back on with justification on the article, and is calling for no "Israeli" sources for editing. This was the edit summary when he restored the tag - which one editor removed - and he put back on - and now I [an English Protestant living in America, hardly a Jew) have removed: "Ezzex (talk | contribs)‎ . . (49,083 bytes) (-103)‎ . . (→‎External links: enough jewish links) " - IMO, this user has more than an agenda, and I'd like you to step in once again.  Thank you. HammerFilmFan (talk) 22:50, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Just FYI, he's drifted over the Malaysian jet-shootdown/crash article in Ukraine, and inserted an anti-Israeli off-topic remark on the TP of that article. I removed it (and was thanked by another editor) but apparently Ezzex is not getting the message? Thanks. HammerFilmFan (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Dweller, I am the other editor. I see that you warning Ezzex almost two weeks ago to tone it down, which we all appreciate. Him telling you to go to sleep and this off topic and personal attack would indicate another final warning is required. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 22:45, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Request to have attack change logs removed
An I.P. address that is the self-proclaimed sock puppet account of the banned user Zhoban left a series of personal attacks against me on his talk page log here. In case you're confused, my name is indeed "Samuel Horton", which isn't exactly a secret, but he's sent me email threats in the past saying the exact same thing. He was already blocked, so I don't want any disciplinary action against him, but I would appreciate the personal attack change logs to be erased. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 00:57, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure which edits you're asking me to remove but I'm going to be watching that IP's edits in future. There's at least one edit from you on that page, which is pretty appalling too. Watch your own step. --Dweller (talk) 11:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, I said some truly horrible things. I hadn't responded to all the provocations before, but I finally just unleashed it all. I'm honestly not proud of what I said, so I accept your disapproval. I can remove the message if you want. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 01:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That would be admirable. --Dweller (talk) 08:01, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've removed it. He and I will never be friends, as he established toxic relations from the start, but hopefully this will alleviate some of the contension. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 07:22, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But yes, all I ask is that those last few change logs that call me "Samuel Horton", "fat", "autistic" and "Alaskan" are cleared. I don't care about administrative measures against him or what-not, just that I don't have to see his crap. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 04:53, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Football....
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Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Please rename me
Hello Dweller,
 * I am contacting you because I want to have a global account for my nickname, “Fippe”. Unfortunately, someone else has registered that name on this wiki in 2006 and hasn't edited anything for more then the last five years now. (He also didn't contribute a lot before) But still, he has the name, and that means, that I can't link this account to my other accounts.
 * So, I want to ask you for a favour: Please change the username of the fake Fippe to something else and then rename me from “RealFippe” to “Fippe”. Could you please do that for me? :-) I am sure, he is okay with that, too, because he hadn't been here in five years.

Greetings from Germany, -- Fippe 14:59, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I just saw that I should have done the request at Changing username/Usurpations. I am moving this there, so you do not have to deal with this. Nevermind. ;-) -- Fippe 21:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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PP
Hi Dweller. Thank you very much for your concern: it's rather fun that I'm now the target of this activity instead of being thought of as a supporter or even the origin of it! I'm pretty robust about all of these things and would probably rather see – and sometimes answer – these kinds of comments; though I may change my mind if it becomes a deluge of daftness. My view is that it's generally better, and maybe more in the spirit of WP, to have these things in the open than to suppress them without seeing them. So I'm mostly pretty happy to leave my talkpage unprotected and to revert or answer these trivial interruptions myself (or have them reverted or taken onwards by sensible and friendly people such as yourself). But I do very much appreciate your intervention. Johnlp (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Would you like me to unprotect? --Dweller (talk) 14:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think so, please. The vandalism has been pretty sporadic: if it gets to be a bore, I may ask you to put it back on. Thank you. Johnlp (talk) 14:20, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello. The menace seems to be back and to have taken on a new identity. It seems to have taken a particular shine to an article on Frederick Micklethwait that I started on last night and will fill out more on this evening. It is irritatingly convinced that I am User:BlackJack. Which I'm not. Of course. Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 08:58, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Lmk if there's anything I can do to help. I like BlackJack a lot, but you're far too calm to be a sock of his. --Dweller (talk) 10:22, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I still seem to have PP on my talk page, though... and I'd rather not. I think I'm robust enough to handle it and will shout if it gets overwhelming. Johnlp (talk) 09:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL! You're absolutely right, he is. Dweller, how come the looney hasn't accused you of being Spartacus? Do you feel left out? He must think you're a Roman. Tel him you're one of us/me. :-) Jack | talk page 18:30, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Bill Evans
Bill Evans - do you know the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.221.13 (talk) 14:04, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you're asking me, but being a helpful sort of chap, I can tell you that 1) Google is your friend and 2) WP:WHAAOE. And so... Ta-da. --Dweller (talk) 14:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Please change my name
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Welcome? Cricket?
Hello,

Thanks for the welcome, but I have been editing WP for six years now. And as an American, to me cricket is that odd bastard predecessor of baseball. And I am not even a baseball fan. But anyhow, glad to meet you.

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