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DYK for Elizabeth Peer
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Nagasaki images
Just a heads up - I've created Template:Usarail for more efficiently categorizing and licensing all the Hikki Nagasaki photos. I'm not going to replace the original OTRS tag on images you uploaded (though you're more than welcome to) but I may on some of the other images by him, since he's taken the statement off his web site. (The OTRS permission should still be valid, though). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:59, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that makes sense. I can't imagine there would be a problem with the OTRS permissions. Mackensen (talk) 22:36, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. Also, in case you hadn't seen, Baer's definitive PRR chronology got an update last year; the new files are here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 12:23, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

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Gareth Paul Jones article "recreated"
Hi there. I hope you can help. The page Gareth Paul Jones appears to have been "recreated" after it had been (I think) deleted by yourself on 16 February 2016. You can read my more detailed explanation in that article's talk page. I'm inclined to nominate the page for speedy deletion, but I'm not sure. What do you think? Thanks. Seaweed (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It was deleted as an expired WP:PROD, so it can be re-created at any time. The current article appears to be superior to the old one. Mackensen (talk) 20:20, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Toledo Mud Hens roster navbox
Template:Toledo Mud Hens roster navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template’s entry on the Templates for discussion page.NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Joigny coach crash
Please see note on your DYK review. You might want to review my alt, or one of the others. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:04, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Also left a note on your talk page. Mackensen (talk) 02:26, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Mackensen, I apologize if you took offense at the procedure. If you had just moved around the words in the nominator's proposed hook, that would have been fine. But when you introduce a new hook fact, however small, it must be double-checked for sourcing, etc., by another reviewer. I just recused myself from a similar situation in this nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/May Who?. Aside from the review, I also thought the choice of hook was very uninteresting, and knew that I couldn't just change it to one of the alts in prep. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:01, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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"Presumptive notability"
I think you may be mistaken here, but per this diff, can you explain why this railroad is "presumptively notable?" Moreover, it might be important to note that this is not a railroad of the caliber of Conrail, Amtrak, CSX, or any Class I railroad where I would agree with your argument; this is a tourist railroad that offers paid excursions for $37 for a 2.5 hour journey. MSJapan (talk) 20:17, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm simply saying that any railroad is probably notable, be it a Class I or a lowly tourist railroad. They're going to receive sufficient coverage to pass the GNG. Mackensen (talk) 20:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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Nomination of Transdominion Express for deletion
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I believe you did some editing on this article back in the day. Figure there's not much worth in keeping an article on a project that never was... Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Fifty State Initiative
To me, there doesn't appear to be a consensus to delete here. There are 3 delete !votes and 3 suggestions for other keepish actions. I plan to create a DAB as per 's suggestion but I would prefer that we retain the past article history as we go forward with that, not start from scratch after your deletion. ~Kvng (talk) 16:47, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see any consensus to retain the content and apparently there wasn't anything to merge. You don't need the article history to write a DAB page. Mackensen (talk) 17:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was thinking that the article history could be useful for editors who might want to, in the future, improve the articles that the DAB references. Is there harm or policy that says this history needs to be deleted? ~Kvng (talk) 18:08, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * My reading of the discussion is that the existing article history wasn't useful for improving the other two articles. No policy commands this, but it seemed the desired outcome. As for harm, keeping the history invites someone to revert the merge later. As I said, my reading of the discussion was that (a) this article shouldn't exist as a standalone and (b) the content wasn't worth merging elsewhere. That points toward a deletion. Mackensen (talk) 18:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I assume you got the idea that the content wasn't worth merging from . On the other hand, and  seem to think there is some value in the material. The others advocated that it deleted based on notability grounds and did not really offer an evaluation of the material. ~Kvng (talk) 22:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think making this a DAB is unnecessary - anyone interested in this specific plot point would be more than capable of locating a relevant article. That said, I don't oppose a DAB page existing. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:24, 13 July 2016 (UTC)


 * FWIW, I think the delete close was reasonable, and agree that restoring the history isn't a blocker for creating a DAB page. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:09, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is reasonable enough so as not to be worth perusing at WP:DRV. I was just surprised to see an assessment of a delete consensus with only 4 of 7 editors !voting to delete. ~Kvng (talk) 22:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Sun Lounge Car
Why do you keep changing the article on the Sun Lounge? I am posting accurate info on that particular car's disposition. I also happen to be a part owner of a pvt car and have forgotten more about SCL psgr cars that most foamers will ever know.

So please quit being a douche nozzle and changing the edits

Evolocomotive Vic Lewis 03:04, 13 July 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evolocomotive (talk • contribs)
 * Because it's my stated mission to the keep foamers at bay on this project, and one way I do that is by insisting that material be sourced and verifiable. Do you own one of the Sun Lounges? I saw it on a Nickel Plate 765 special last year. Lovely car. Mackensen (talk) 10:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Re: File:Lovebythebridge.jpg
Hi Mackensen,

It's been a while hearing from you. The statement was meant to read that the particular license (waiver) only applies to that particular image in question, and does not waive all the remaining images from the website which still has a "No Derivative" condition attached and in effect. - Mailer Diablo 17:19, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Layfield & Barrett
Hi Mack,

I would like to know the reasoning behind the deletion of the page Layfield & Barrett, References added their where from Notable places and better from most of these Lyon & Lyon. Paul Hastings,Trevor Law Group, etc (As an example), I would like to know which specific area over their needed improvement? If you can relist it, I will like to work on it to make it proper. Thanks in advance.--Lawedit (talk) 13:29, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for an example of why that argument is a non-starter. My reading of the discussion was a consensus to delete. The issue was less referencing and more the basic claim of notability. Mackensen (talk) 17:13, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Swampoodle Connection
Why are you convinced that the line does not exist? There is a source that seems credible. If you don't think it is a credible source, may you please explain why it is not.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * it's a proposal, not a line. There's no source in the article. There's an external link to a guy's website, but it doesn't actually discuss the proposed connection (that I could find). The link was added later by a different user who was banned shortly thereafter for sockpuppetry. In any event, a private website probably isn't reliable. Mackensen (talk) 19:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

"That brings us to the second point about the pairing: it assumed that the city project called the "Swampoodle Connector" would be done. The ex-PRR Chestnut Hill line and the ex-Reading Norristown branch run within a few hundred yards of each other near their respective main line junctions, in a North Philadelphia neighborhood called Swampoodle (the area between the two lines is mostly vacant and isolated land). The plan was to build a connecting track between the two so Chestunt Hill West trains would be connected to the Reading side via the Norristown branch. The plan would have a lot of benefits:?

I agree that we should be suspicious of this user, and I saw what they did with the Staten Island Railway page. I was able to get rid of the copy vios put into that article by this user. There is not a lot of information on this. In the link it talks about someone who worked for the Delaware Valley Association of Rail Passengers. I will try to contact them and see if they have any information. If I cannot find anything, could the article be deleted, and a summary of the content of the article put into another Septa article? Thanks. --Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I found that text on a different page. The text about the connector is clearly just the words of Matthew Mitchell of DVARP. If this was an actual proposal there would be studies and news coverage. So far I can't find any. What we need are reliable sources. At the moment there's nothing that could merged. Mackensen (talk) 20:14, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * DVARP was using the term at least as far back as 1998, in a presentation to the SEPTA board no less: Travel Time On the SEPTA Regional Railroad. So while I'm not convinced of the actual notability - it's probably fine as just a sentence or two on the SEPTA Regional Rail article unless someone can dig up good primary or secondary coverage of the Vuchnic plan - it definitely was a real plan proposed by real people. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I've sent for, which might contain the necessary information. Mackensen (talk) 20:36, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Update posted at Talk:Swampoodle Connection. Mackensen (talk) 18:30, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Ivana Raymonda van der Veen AfD
Hi Mackensen,

Thanks for going through the trouble of studying that AfD. I understand your decision. I was just wondering if you think I could renominate the article for deletion in a couple of months (I wouldn't make those gigantic mistakes again), or would that be seen as toxic by other contributors? I sure don't want to see the IAR rubbish again. The subject is not notable. Period. The problem is that this article had been sitting around for ages, and nobody nominated it for deletion, so if I don't do it again I figure that no one might nominate it in ages a thousand years. Please, any suggestions? Perhaps you could find a nominator? Thanks in advance Dontreader (talk) 12:04, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand your frustration. I think if you were to renominate it, even with the passage of time, people would have trouble getting past this AfD (assuming they bothered reading it, not a given). I have no particular views on the notability of the subject (aside from what I read during the AfD) and I'm not familiar with internet radio. Remember, there's no time limit; if the subject is obviously non-notable then someone else will nominate the article in good time. I'd start by putting a tag on the article (if you think it's justified). Best, Mackensen (talk) 12:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the wise advice. Yes, I thought that Internet radio was smaller yet significant, and growing, but the websites I checked that Ivana was on said NOT ENOUGH DATA, so the traffic is minimal. It's not her fault, of course, but that's not significant coverage, in my opinion. Anyway, I guess I'll put a notability tag on the article in a couple of months, as you suggested. I do fear that if I nominate the article again then the same IAR rubbish will be used, so someone else will have to set up the nomination process. What bothers me is the way it was kept. Otherwise I would forget about it. The person telling me that I misbehaved voted to keep the article despite admitting that the subject didn't pass GNG or BAND. That's much worse than anything I did, I think. I'll be more careful in the future. Thanks again for your help, and have a great day! Dontreader (talk) 12:42, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Ivana Raymonda van der Veen
This might not be a popular move but I'm going to ask you to reconsider your close of Articles for deletion/Ivana Raymonda van der Veen (2nd nomination). There was a clear consensus that van der Veen did not satisfy any notability guidelines and the coverage found fell short of GNG. Everything else was irrelevant drama that should have been ignored. The only calls for keeping were adhoms. Ignoring all rules to keep a badly sourced contentious BLP is an exceedingly dumb idea. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:51, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleting under those conditions would have created a very bad impression. Dontreader's intervention on your talk page, which I wasn't previously aware of, only reinforces my view that the AfD could not have an outcome. Best, Mackensen (talk) 15:29, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Not deleting under those conditions creates a very bad impression. What was a valid policy based afd was turned into something else by those opposed to deletion. It was disrupted with that drama to prevent removal. Closing like that rewards the creation of drama and encourages disruption. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:52, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

MARC History
I discovered this afternoon that the history section of MARC Train was composed of two parts: a wholesale copy-paste of this history added by an IP editor six years ago, and an extremely long bit about the Keolis controversy. For the moment I've completely blanked the section; I should have a decent amount of written-by-me history up in an hour or so, and I'll probably restore the Keolis section as-is until I can pare it down. Unfortunately, my personal collection doesn't have a lot of PRR and B&O history, and the 1971-1989 period where all the services came until public control isn't well covered. I'm adding as much as I can from Baer's massive documents and a few other sources, but if you're able to fill in the gaps I'd be very grateful. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:06, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sigh, thanks for the heads-up. I've got a few things at hand and I'll see what I can do. Mackensen (talk) 00:07, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * On the plus side, I've now got dates accurate to at least the month level for almost all station openings and closings since public subsidy began, including when commuter trains moved to Capital Beltway (August 1982) and when all service moved to New Carrollton (October 30, 1983). (It'll take a while for me to finish the MARC article and then fill in the station articles). I'm still missing three closure dates:
 * Hyattsville on the Camden Line, between 1981 and 1986
 * Edmondson Avenue replaced with West Baltimore. It was Edmondson Avenue at the last Chesapeake timetable and West Baltimore by 1986.
 * Frederick Road on the Penn Line: probably still in service in 1980, gone by 1986
 * Because Baer doesn't give any useful details (other than a contradictory hint that Frederick Road was closed before 1979) and they don't show up in any Proquest or Highbeam articles, I'm about stuck on those three. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I have a 1981 B&O "Potomac Valley Service" timetable. It confirms that Hyattsville is still listed on what was then called the "Baltimore Line", but seeing one train each way per day (out of four). Not having much luck so far on Conrail's operations. Mackensen (talk) 13:18, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, digging up a two-year-old thread because I found this article, which puts West Baltimore replacing both Edmondson Avenue and Frederick Road sometime in mid-1984. Is that one you can access or clip? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:18, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Lucky for you I'm a lax archiver (on the talk page, anyway). I do have access and here's the clipping: . I think I've seen reference to Amdot (Amtrak Maryland Department of Transportation) before, but I don't think that branding was long-lived. Here's another story from that period which uses it: . Mackensen (talk) 04:09, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * (I wandered into this thread....) You might try emailing a question to the library system--there is an "other" option in the Residence drop down. Barring an answer there, I might be able to go and take a look at the central library to see if I can find something about your questions (though you'd have to direct me on the specific questions asked). --Izno (talk) 01:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * (I suppose I could send the same questions in if you think a citizen of Baltimore City would have a better/quicker chance of an answer.) --Izno (talk) 01:54, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Sonny Bama
You recently deleted the page Sonny Bama because it was previously deleted via discussion. However, the previous page that was deleted via discussion was a long time ago. The content of the page is similar but the person is now cited with better sources that show his notability. Can we allow the undeletion of the page to start a new discussion? Jdogg Shaw (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I had another look at the deleted content and decided that it differed enough to warrant undeletion. That doesn't stop anyone from renominating it for deletion under different grounds. Best, Mackensen (talk) 18:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

CSD tagging
Hi, the reason I tagged those CSD'd those templates was because I did close those discussions, but I later reverted myself when I realized that I had misread the dates and the discussion couldn't be closed yet. I thought I reverted all my edits, but I guess I missed those ones. Hope that clears things up.  Omni Flames ( talk ) 12:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. Mackensen (talk) 12:46, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Recent changes on WP:CSD
Hello, and thanks for deleting Brown Clay. I am here to notify you about that the "Neelix Redirect" criterion has separated out from G6 and become CSD X1. Thank you.  NasssaNser 10:53, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. Mackensen (talk) 10:54, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Union public service commission
The creation of Union public service commission included text from Uttar Pradesh Public Service Commission, but the editor did not follow the guideline Copying within Wikipedia. Did I miss something?-- S Philbrick (Talk)  12:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * There's barely any overlap between the two: . Two sentences at most; and they probably fall under WP:NOATT. Maybe a note is required on the talk page, but a G12 isn't justified. Mackensen (talk) 12:27, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It looked like a close paraphrase when I first looked at it, and there's little doubt it was used improperly, but not as bad as I first thought.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  12:33, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Articles for deletion/Roger Milla Stadium
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Your userpage
Hello! Just a quick heads up I reverted some vandalism that was done to your user page! Just thought I'd let you know. Have a good day! --Cameron11598 (Talk) 17:18, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Been a while since that happened. Mackensen (talk) 19:54, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Genius Sports
Hi Mackensensen. I am looking to set up a page for Genius Sports, a large sports company that has recently signed a number of exciting agreements with major sports federations.

Could you please give me some feedback why the initial page was removed so that I can hopefully submit a more acceptable copy second time round?

Cheers. George3107 (talk) 10:44, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The specific reason the page was deleted was that, as written, it did not credibly claim significance. That's not to say that the company is not notable; it's that as written the article didn't make it clear how or why the company is notable. The tone was also somewhat promotional (even now, on my talk page, you're referring to "exciting" agreements). Note that if you're connected with the company in some way, you should read Conflict of interest before proceeding. Mackensen (talk) 12:02, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of MOVE-II
Hi, I just saw, that the article I started drafting yesterday got deleted (Code G11). I checked that code and it said I failed to include enough reliable sources for the article. Well that is obviously true, as there was no reference included. However that was due to the fact that its still in draft, not due to the reason that there are insufficient sources.

I think this may be a start for references to be included. There are several more published scientific papers etc that cover the subject. As promotional also carries the implication the article may not be of general interest for the public, our motivation for creating it was that we often met people who asked us why there's no article covering MOVE-II.

Therefore we'd like to have our article undeleted, and as soon as the draft is done, submit it for review :) (which I obviously was mistaken to believe is the first time we get into risk of deletion).

With kind regards,

Sauronforpoor (talk) 12:51, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. WP:G11 refers to "Unambiguous advertising or promotion"; not references. Draft:MOVE-II, as written, contained a mission statement and a technical description and wasn't written as an encyclopedia article. Also, if you're connected with the MOVE-II project please see Conflict of interest. Mackensen (talk) 12:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

OK, I see. In fact it is the first time I tried to create an article and I am member of the team. In case we still think it reasonable to have an article due to public interest, regarding to COI, I guess it'd be best to find someone not involved for writing the article? Sauronforpoor (talk) 15:13, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Fox Chase Line
Why is there a need to divide references into two types for the sake of a single source? Harvard style works well when most sources in an article are books - especially a small number of books - but for an article with mostly online sources it seems silly. I don't understand you comment about "bad things happen[ing]". Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Because I'm up to my eyeballs in false references in the Philadelphia area, and a common tactic is a misleading page range. Mackensen (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm aware of that, but how does that have anything to do with referencing style? The rp template is still a convenient marker for the exact page for each citation instance. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * When it comes to that, I find Harvard style easier to read than rp, and I recall being advised against rp during a GA review at some point. Admittedly it's personal preference. Mackensen (talk) 17:08, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have the opposite preference - Harvard style gets me frustrated going back and forth between the two styles. For now, would a fair compromise be not to convert anything to Harvard style unless a) book (or similar) references represent more than half of citation instances in the text of the article and b) there's a need to indicate individual page numbers (i.e, not just a single page or a single short range)? That seems like it would keep a consistent style for articles with majority web sources, but the longer articles with heavy book reliance would use Harvard for the books.


 * Here's the Metroliner postcard, by the way. Turns out they were made at Budd's Red Lion plant, off the West Trenton Line, so a lot of the early testing was done on the Reading. Baer has several notes about that in his 1967 and 1968 histories. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:35, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for today's turboliners, "a fleet of gas turbine trainsets employed by Amtrak, ... a matter of intense controversy in the US railfan community"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! If you can believe it, there was a time when discussion of reviving the use of Turboliners could get one banned on railfan forums. Now that they've been scrapped the issue has died down...a little. Mackensen (talk) 14:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Sounds familiar ;) - remember that you could get banned when you used a certain template too often? - The topic is on its way to get unattractive (RfC, la la), but some still see red when it's mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Four years now! In 2017, one IP was still interested in the dreaded topic, - certainly my fault ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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Kayleigh McEnany
Hey, why did you delete the article on Kayleigh McEnany? By what standard was there a consensus? It sure did not seem like a consensus to delete to me.Tesint (talk) 03:17, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Having reviewed the comments by all the participants at the discussion, I saw a clear consensus among them to delete because there wasn't sufficient significant, in-depth coverage of the subject. Best, Mackensen (talk) 03:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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S-Line Colour
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This is just a general wonderation really, is there any way for Tempate:"system" color to have its parametre switch based on  instead of the usual  ? I'm trying this, because I'm thinking of putting service type in notemid, under line name, and assign each type of service a different colour. Thanks Nima Farid (talk) 07:55, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

ICYMI
Oanabay is now socking... note Special:Contributions/174.67.240.135. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:11, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Surprised he didn't sooner. Blocked. Mackensen (talk) 04:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Template:Center City Commuter Connection
Having read both the Reading Viaduct and Ninth Street Branch articles, I can't tell which is the appropriate link target for the line from Reading Terminal to Temple University? Useddenim (talk) 13:58, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In my view it would be Ninth Street Branch; from what I can tell the Reading Viaduct describes the disused portion of the branch. Mackensen (talk) 19:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up. (I guess both articles would benefit from some editing.) Useddenim (talk) 19:07, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

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Aqueduct Racetrack
Thank you again for your help on the Aqueduct Racetrack article. I have added some additional information, and I have found references that have allowed me to eliminate almost all of the uses of the nycsubway.org page as a reference. When you have a chance could please check out my work? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 02:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been traveling for the last few days but I'll be able to return to the article tomorrow. Mackensen (talk) 05:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you. Have you been enjoying your travels?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 12:55, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

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75th Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line)
Hi Mackensen. Thanks for helping with the GA reviews. I have tried to fix things on the page so that it can pass. You haven't responded recently. When you have a chance, could you see what else needs to be done so that it could pass? Thank you and have a good evening.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Could you check what I have now done? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

"regional rail" versus "commuter rail" on MBTA articles
Could you take a look at the recent edits of (previously  and probably  thanks to dynamic IPs) on MBTA articles? They may have something of a point as far as the American versus European meanings of "regional rail" versus "commuter rail" (especially since the former article has no citations, and no discussion about the use of the term in the US), but the confusing links and giant comments they're leaving are somewhat disruptive. I'm not sure what the best way to end the disruption is, without necessarily chasing away a potentially good editor (although I see you've had to revert them on several occasions) or having to do something like an RFC. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:19, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, the endnotes are overkill. That said, my gut reaction is that the IP is right: the term "regional rail" isn't in common use in the United States. Is there a reason we don't call these commuter rail stations (or, better yet, just train stations)? Mackensen (talk) 20:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that academically in the US, "commuter rail" properly refers to systems like Sounder that have heavily peaked service, while "regional rail" refers to systems like MBTA and indeed SEPTA Regional Rail that run frequent all-day service, reverse peak service, and weekend service. There's not a particularly well-defined way to establish that, though; different agencies use different terms, and there's not even the level of legal definitions like with HSR. I would prefer to keep "regional rail" in the MBTA articles as I feel that is a more accurate description than "commuter rail" given that the system is designed to be used by more than just commuters. "Train station" tends to imply true intercity rail so that would not be my first choice. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:04, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That distinction makes sense to me, but it's not reflected in our usage. MBTA Commuter Rail doesn't use the term; regional rail has a hat note telling people to see commuter rail; even SEPTA Regional Rail describes the system as "commuter rail" in the lede. Are there reliable sources discussing the term? Mackensen (talk) 21:30, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This Transportation Research Record issue has a lot of discussion about "regional rail" in the context of all-day systems (including some heavy rail and light rail) that have all-day bidirectional service with a regional scope rather than solely serving a CBD. TRR is the premier transportation journal; unfortunately a lot of their newer stuff is pay walled., I see you've also become involved; thoughts? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I only saw the one that I edited this morning. The commentary seemed a bit excessive and better suited to the talk page than in an HTML comment in the article.  The visible link, which itself pointed to a disambiguation page, seemed unproductive to me, especially since it was on an article about a strictly American subject (last time I checked, MBTA serves locations only in the United States and doesn't reach into Canada yet...).  However, based on what I saw on the regional and commuter rail pages, the point seemed valid, so I proceeded on the premise that the best solution was to keep the existing text but pipe the link to the commuter rail article and remove the potentially inflammatory [Americanism] superscript and poorly placed hidden comment.  I'm in Wisconsin and have heard both regional and commuter rail used to describe Metra services locally, so I am impartial as to which is used in the long run.  Slambo (Speak)  22:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Looping in and  who left comments on my talk page here, and  who mass-reverted the IP. I think at this point it may be worth a discussion at Wikiproject Trains? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:16, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, please start it. Also could you provide diffs to the edits in question? --agr (talk) 12:54, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This is one of the original changes made by the IP editor: I reverted those changes and changed the link to use "commuter rail" as the IP editor recommended. Natg 19 (talk) 16:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not too clear about the distinctions between regional rail and commuter rail, but I did mass-revert the "commentary", and it seemed like those pages should use commuter rail (as the MBTA Commuter Rail article uses the term "commuter rail"), so I made those changes. I think it would be worth a discussion at the Trains project. Natg 19 (talk) 16:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Regional rail has a specific meaning in Europe and many other countries, but it does not have that meaning in the U.S. Amtrak does use the word in its European meaning for the Northeast Regional service but I doubt anyone here who hasn't spent time riding railroads overseas picks up on its European significance. For most Americans its just a marketing name to distinguish it from the high speed Acela service on the same line. As far as I know that is the only Amtrak line with two levels of service that would justify use of the term Regional as the rest of the world understands it. All the other passenger rail on the tracks of the national network are considered Commuter rail, even though some lines have characteristics that could be termed regional in the European sense in that they connect two or more cities. The Newtonville (MBTA station) that was edited in the diff above is a good example of why. As it happens I am sitting a ten minute walk away from that station. I use it often.  There are several trains to Boston in the morning and from Boston in the evening that stop there, with spotty service during the day. Someone looking at a map might think to call it a regional rail station since they might envision that it could also be used to commute to Worcester, Massachusetts, but the first train in the morning to Worcester stops at Newtonville at 10:39 a.m. The focus of this line is getting commuters to work in Boston, with reverse service to Worcester provided on a limited basis. Similarly {{SEPTA Train]] which calls itself regional rail, has a couple of lines that could qualify, e.g. the Trenton, NJ, and Newark, DE lines, but SEPTA does not distinguish those services from others that are not intercity. Regional apparently just means servicing the greater Philadelphia region. Also note that US Commuter rail operators are state or local governments, with some cooperative agreements between two or three states. Well run ones take advantage of opportunities to generate non-commuter traffic, but that is not their primary business. Another thing to note is the bit about operating on the national rail network. That is a major characteristic of Commuter rail in the US and triggers the need to comply with stringent Federal Railroad Administration safety standards for passenger cars. Our article on Commuter rail in North America should mention that. It limits the use of rolling stock from the rest of the world, e.g. DMUs, though some wavers have been granted.--agr (talk) 04:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

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Your statement about interacting with both LiveRail and Bhtpbank is an interesting statement from a highly respected editor, and which begs the question of why you failed to issued a request for a WP:SPI if you had identified KirksKeyKard as a potential Sockpuppet of BHTPBank prior to this occasion? Surely, if this editor was so transparent in their behavior (i.e. unbecoming that of a WP editor), then this Sockpuppet would have been blocked earlier before they had committed damaging edits to this project. I have looked through the contributions of this editor and I find little that would cause any Admin to have reason to issue so much as a warning. So a I ask of you, where is the edit warring, the anti-civil behavior that generally result in the imposition of a block??? I see an editor that raised a WP:ANI for an admin that was edit warring and non-civil, but was simply admonished ... so where is the balance, the equivalence?? I assess your judgment to be biased and questionable. You give an opinion, but have no evidence to provide as to poor behavior by the admin. At worst I see an editor that has likely tried to start afresh, but when identifying a more sinister and badly behaved sock-puppet has exposed themselves to be a former banned user. By all accounts, and looking at their edits, this editor otherwise would have gone unnoticed by any admin. 2601:191:1:2E9C:C4F5:1EBC:36E5:B59D (talk) 15:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You were banned for good cause. You came back, stayed under the radar a while, and then got into the same kind of trouble. You avoided some of the obvious mistakes this time around, but you can't really complain at this stage if you keep socking and people keep identifying the socks. If you'd like to resume editing then Standard offer is a good approach and I'm willing to help you. Best, Mackensen (talk) 19:15, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Offer accepted. I'll contact you in the summer. Thank you. 2601:191:1:2E9C:C17A:BA79:D4F7:3D80 (talk) 00:28, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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Looking for a PD photo of GM's Train of Tomorrow
Mackensen,

I am looking for a PD photo of GM's Train of Tomorrow for an article on the train (currently a draft in my sandbox). I noticed that you've uploaded a great brochure on it that has lapsed into the public domain, and I've been looking for a PD photograph to go with images I plan to extract from the brochure. I've found a great image from Southern Methodist University's library and another couple from GM (here and here) that I inquired about via e-mail, but SMU and GM still claim copyright on them, respectively. I'm also intrigued by this image from Florida Memory, especially due to having found this PD image from the same source, although there is no way to prove it has been published and it could very well still be protected by copyright. I've also found this photo on eBay, which looks like it might be PD due to lack of a copyright notice, but again I don't think I can prove it has ever been published. Anyway, I'm curious if you might have any ideas for where to find a nice PD photo or two of the Train of Tomorrow. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. All the best!

Michael Barera (talk) 03:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That's wonderful that you're doing Train of Tomorrow; I started gathering material but never did anything with it. I never found a photo beyond that brochure. Commons has treated material from Florida Memory as presumptively PD; see Category:Images from the Florida Photographic Collection. I think that's a little dubious given the lack of source information, but it's been allowed. See also File:Amtrak Silver Palm during inaugural run.jpg. Given the description of the listing I doubt the eBay was ever published so it's probably copyrighted. Surprisingly we don't seem to have any pictures of any of the cars in later revenue service with UP. Roger Puta might have captured one of the cars. I haven't gone through his UP photos. I'm also going to check Roger's BN photos; IIRC the cars were used in pool service Seattle–Portland. Mackensen (talk) 12:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much, Mackensen! From the sources I've already found, you're right about the four cars ultimately running a UP service between Portland and Seattle. I've received a promising preliminary e-mail from the State Archives of Florida, quoting directly from the Photographic Archivist Assistant:
 * I am looking into this photo and when it was donated. It is a copy negative made from a print loaned to the Archives.  With the loan, the State Archives became the copyright holder for all of the images in the collection.  I don't know if the photo was published at the time,  but we have never had any disputes over copyright for this image.  If I find any additional information about the photo I will let you know. Beyond this we tell everyone that our only requirement is that you credit the State Archives of Florida.  Our credit line is "Courtesy of the State Archives of Florida."  If the photographer is noted, "Photo by John Doe, courtesy of the State of Archives of Florida."
 * I'm hoping that further research can clear it as PD. Worst case scenario, though, I've got some awesome images from that brochure you uploaded that I can use to illustrate the article. And I just obtained a copy of Ric Morgan's The Train of Tomorrow via interlibrary loan, so I should really be able to flesh out this article over the rest of this month. I'm hoping to get it to GA status by myself, but might you (at some point in the future) be willing to go in on an FA nomination with me for it? I know you have that Turboliner article under your belt, and I'd love to (help) produce an FA of my own some day. Thanks again for all your help, and all your amazing and inspiring contributions to Wikipedia and Commons! Michael Barera (talk) 04:54, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Morgan's book is excellent; I don't have it but I do have a couple of design books which I think discuss it. White's book on passenger cars probably does too. I'll try to help out but my availability is going to be spotty over the next few weeks. Mackensen (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I completely understand, Mackensen. I'm working on reading Morgan's book right now, so hopefully I'll be resuming work on writing the article in a week. Also, I received the following message from the State Archives of Florida today: I checked out N039552. The original was a loan, and the donor gave all rights to us.  No photographer is noted, so “Courtesy of the State Archives of Florida” would be the credit line. Do you think that it would be safe to assume this image is PD, like the Silver Palm one, or not? I always tend to err on the side of caution, and I'm still skeptical about this. All the best! Michael Barera (talk) 03:35, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd say the situation is comparable to the Silver Palm image. I have some volumes of Trains from 1946–1948 and I'm checking to see what contemporary coverage there was. Mackensen (talk) 03:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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not you...
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Redirect hijacking
Based on Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive939, you've had experience with this sort of thing.

seems to have done that redirect-hijacking trick with Dimoline to move in Flick Law Firm. This isn't simple spamming calling for simple tagging, so is there a procedure for reporting this sort of thing? --Calton | Talk 13:46, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've seen one or two other cases reported on WP:ANI; I don't think there's a specific procedure yet. It's (so far) uncommon enough that it doesn't need one. I think in each case you report it there, then an admin fixes the move, unmerge the page histories if necessary, indef the person who did it, and have WP:SPI check for socks. Mackensen (talk) 13:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but report how and to whom? Tagging Flick Law Firm as spam, absent any other form of notification, will simply have the page deleted. In the interim, I've used the simple  . tag with a long explanation inside . Surely there's a more direct way to do this? --Calton | Talk 14:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I apologize; I wasn't clear. I've just seen this reported on ANI so far. I think these cases belong there so that administrators are generally aware of the tactic. Apparently some of these incidents are tracked at Sockpuppet investigations/Highstakes00. Mackensen (talk) 14:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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I was just looking at your user page, are you an admin?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind, just found it.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:15, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Anything I can help you with? Mackensen (talk) 14:10, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

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Lincoln stations
It looks like you're the primary contributor to both Lincoln (CB&Q station) and Lincoln station (Nebraska). I generally hold that when a historic station is replaced by a modern station on the same site (or very close nearby), it's better to keep them on one page for a more logical flow of information. See for example Joseph Scelsi Intermodal Transportation Center, which follows something like eight different stations across their histories; none of the individual stations would be worth a GA. (There are of course exceptions where the two structures each have enough history for lengthy articles, but that's not really the case here.) Would you have any objection to the articles being merged? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No strong objection, but I would note that they're a solid block apart and the current station is on a new alignment. Mackensen (talk) 03:47, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm ready to move my new Train of Tomorrow article to the mainspace
Mackensen,

I'm ready to move my new Train of Tomorrow article to the mainspace, where I plan to nominate it as a DYK. I've put as much time, effort, and care into it as my other (large) DYK nominations, but if you're interested in taking it to the next level, I'd be more than willing to work with you on getting it to GA or even FA status. Let me know if you're interested. Also, I don't have access to Great Trains West online, so I'm putting that source on the back burner for now by hiding it in the wiki-markup. All the best!

Michael Barera (talk) 05:52, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * looks fantastic. There's a few things I'd tweak, but I have limited access the next few days, so don't let me hold you up. Mackensen (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Old service on the Keystone Corridor
As expected, the history of what is now the Keystone Service is a long and twisted one. So many service and frequency changes. I'm going to have to do some error correction to List of Amtrak routes; there are some things in there that don't match up with timetables. Pulling up a six-year-old edit you made, do you have any idea where you got that information? I don't see those train names appear in any timetable (though unfortunately timetables.org is missing the April 1995 Keystone timetable), including the September 1995 timetable that should include them. However, there were the Harrisburg-Springfield William Penn and Connecticut Yankee, added in April 1995 and gone by September.

Another interesting tidbit: in 1990-91, Amtrak operated a single southbound-only Metroliner trip, #201, from Downington to DC. This thread indicates it may have been primarily used by employees. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * 2010 me isn't returning my calls. If I had to guess, I found the name in a timetable and assumed the October 28, 1995 end date as the date individual names were dropped (as they were with the NortheastDirect services). For pre-1981 services I would have relied on Bruce Goldberg's book. Untangling Keystone service was always vaguely on my hit list; glad to see you're tackling it. Watch out for the Valley Forge, which was a Harrisburg-Boston from I think 1973-1975. 201 is a real oddity; that's in the era before that Corridor was rebuilt for higher-speed operation too. Mackensen (talk) 13:31, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

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Turboliner
Nice to see that you've spearheaded a featured article! I remember seeing you around constantly back in the day. &mdash;Deckiller (t-c-l) 10:30, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It's good to see you back. Mackensen (talk) 13:07, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 20:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I saw it; I'm thinking about it :). Mackensen (talk) 22:20, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, sorry to bother. :-) We could also do an interview piece, something like this, if that would be easier for you. Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 06:12, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey there. Do you have any thoughts on this? Like I said above, I'm happy to do an interview piece instead to take up less of your time. :-) Best, Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That could work. My availability over the next few weeks is pretty awful though. Mackensen (talk) 01:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay here. Let's reconnect in a couple weeks when you have more time and we can talk? Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 04:07, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

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International Limited
I'm going to do a bit of maintenance work on International Limited related to the Network Growth Strategy. As the only significant contributor to the article in years, any qualms about moving it to International (Amtrak train)? It was only the International Limited for a year, but International for decades. While it does add the parenthetical, it would parallel well with International (GN train). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:08, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with that. The current naming situation has bugged me for years, but I never did anything about it. Please feel free to move them around. Mackensen (talk) 15:45, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ I believe I've fixed all the outstanding links to the various trains. However, there are a couple old discussions at Talk:International Limited (train) (a talk page for a longstanding redirect) that I'm not sure what should be done with. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

March Madness 2017
G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:


 * tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
 * updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
 * creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

March 11: Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon @ MoMA (and beyond!)
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Your GA nomination of EMD F40PH
The article EMD F40PH you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:EMD F40PH for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Shearonink -- Shearonink (talk) 00:23, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Routemap-Infobox
Template:Routemap-Infobox has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox UK railway. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:41, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

randomly deleting pictures
stop ruining articles by deleting pictures such as the one of the ACS-64 HHP-8 and AEM-7 in the article Electric locomotive or I will report you for vandalisim and your excuse is image not free but i did fill out the forms correctly about the source of the image and it is fair use — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slenderman7676 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to report me for vandalism if you think that's wise but I'd encourage you to read over Wikipedia is free content first. A claim of fair use cannot be sustained if we have equivalent free pictures. We have free images of the ACS-64, the HHP-8, the AEM-7, and the SC-44. You can't just grab pictures from around the internet and upload them here. Note that I haven't actually deleted any of the images you uploaded; that was . He's right to do so. Mackensen (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Callum Bustin
As you deleted the article, may I ask you to send it to my sandbox. Many thanks in advance.Fleets (talk) 14:12, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Done: User:Fleets/Callum Bustin. Best, Mackensen (talk) 14:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Many thanks.Fleets (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Sunday March 26: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel
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Disambiguation link notification for April 3
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Template:Did you know nominations/EMD F40PH
Hi, I just saw your hook in prep. Before all the hits come in, I'd just like to say that it's a great hook!!! Best, Yoninah (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Mackensen (talk) 11:08, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

1874 Northwich badge
The official club twitter page uses the logo. https://twitter.com/1874Northwich --One Salient Oversight (talk) 12:23, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Splitting files
I have been updating football club badges for about three years and this is the first time someone has "split" the images. I don't think it is necessary because the images are copyright and as soon as a replacement image is uploaded, the former image no longer has fair use. There is a bot which automatically removes older images. The two files you "split" will be affected by this because the original one will no longer have fair use and someone will eventually delete it. --One Salient Oversight (talk) 12:41, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'm aware of all these issues. It doesn't change the fact that two different images shouldn't be at the same filename. It makes a mess of the attribution history. It also makes going back to an earlier version (for whatever reason) awkward and time-consuming. That the images are fair use and therefore have a limited lifespan doesn't change these considerations. It's unfortunate that the older images weren't split as well but it's easy to overlook in the course of handling rescaling. Mackensen (talk) 12:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

DYK for EMD F40PH
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

April 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Template:Did you know nominations/François Bott
Mackensen, I was wondering whether you'd be willing to return to your review of this nomination now that Gerda Arendt has proposed a new hook and done some work on the article. You tagged the article for sourcing and had issues with the hook sourcing as well. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:33, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder; I've left a comment. Mackensen (talk) 15:37, 16 April 2017 (UTC)