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 * Hi Stephen, thank you for adding this detailed article. Hopefully it won't get deleted as its a fine topic for inclusion. However, Wikipedia requires all articles to be fully verifiable. This is one of the so-called "five pillars of Wikipedia", and means that everything should be referenced to sources which can be checked by anyone. So, your statement that the reference for this article is an unpublished leaflet is not sufficient. Presumably, you have done some extensive research into the topic, and can call on a range of sources for the information you have added. The best approach would therefore be to cite these sources directly, whether they be information in books or primary sources such as Town Council records. I hope you can assist in this, as its not often that someone is willing to add the results of such detailed research to the encyclopedia! Your efforts will certainly be appreciated by myself and other members of WikiProject Edinburgh, an informal collaboration seeking to improve Edinburgh-related articles. Please feel free to contact me if you need any help. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 11:55, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

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Would you please provide complete information for the book mentioned in this edit? Who was the publisher? When was it published? What page was the information on? Jc3s5h (talk) 12:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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Stephen, Do you know of this chap from the Royal scots?

New Police chief for Argyll. Newspaper cutting from: The Glasgow Herald – 21 July 1927. Inspector Donald A. Ross, Edinburgh Police, has been appointed Chief Constable of Argyllshire. The new Chief Constable is 33 years of age, was educated at George Watson’s College, Edinburgh and after leaving school entered the law office of Messrs Norman Macpherson and Dunlop, S.S.C., Edinburgh, where he remained till the outbreak of the Great War. He voluntarily enlisted in the 15th Battalion Royal Scots in September 1915, and in January of the following year received a commission in that regiment. He was on active service in France, Belgium and Russia from 1915 to 1920. In 1920 he joined the Edinburgh City Police. He was an Inspector in the Chief Clerk’s department, where he closely studied police work with special reference to its administrative details. Mr Ross is a son of Mr. Roderick Ross, Chief Constable of Edinburgh.

Best regardsBeckenhamBear (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I have a list of several thousand men organised by serial number... there are a few gaps..The date of enlistment fits with the early period when they were organising groups alphabetically and I have a gap at 17736 between Thomas Robertson and James L Ruxton where he would fit nicely.

What I can tell from other sites (National Archive:Campaign Medals WW1) is that Donald A Ross did in fact get a campaign medal for the war... which normally means that they were invalided out before the conclusion.

The Russian bit is always interesting. People always assume it all ended in Nov 1918... but not for everyone. Several battalions were dispatched to Archangel in Russia effectively to sort out the rebellious Russians who dropped out of WW1 early and were to some degree being punished (all very pointless) ... of the wider group I am looking at (15th was disbanded by then and men moved to other battalions) around 20 to 30 died in Russia in 1919 and are listed on the archangel Memorial..

Some war medals read "The Great War: 1914 to 1919"... I have one at home.

Does this help??

I have tentatively added Donald A Ross into my list at 17736--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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I noted with interest your edits to the Kilconquhar article. Can I point out howevere that these were not minor edits so you should not mark them so. For clarification, read WP:MINOR.

Also, your edits were largely unreferenced. Can you please cite them and, for the one reference you did give, can you include the name of the publisher, the relevant page nos. and, if possible, ISBN no.?

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 * I notice that you continue to make edits, some quite substantial, without indicating the verifiability of the material. Wikipedia's "content is determined by previously published information rather than by the personal beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.". Please read WP:V if you do not understand the importance of this or ask me if you require help. Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:33, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ...and you continue to mark edits as minor when they are not. Please stop doing this. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Stephen, I replied to your post on my talk page a few days ago but it occurred to me you may have been expecting any reply to be here (I'd noticed you're still marking all edits as minor, so presumably hadn't read my explanation as to why that is problematic). Hope you find it of use. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

This is a gigantic response to a singularly brief message, as time is quite short and couldn't you be spending it elsewhere more productively, such as with me - nah Mr. Stephencdickson? MontyDickson (talk) 04:09, 6 July 2012 (UTC)MontyDickson

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''Unusually for the period these at no point were gas lamps. They were built as electric street lights, amongst the first in Britain, in 1891, the first being confined solely to the Shore area. Their height (far too high to light a gas lamp) evidences their original function. Several (including most of those on the Shore) are recent replicas of the Victorian originals recast using one old one as a mould. These date from the early works of the Leith Project, and were completed around 1983. '' I have temporarily removed this text as it does not have any verifiable sources or references. Can you provide some? i.e. - What is your verifiable source for dating these lights to 1891? Can you provide a verifiable source for the assertion that the lights were originally confined to the Shore area? Again, a verifiable source is required to prove that (some) of these lights are recent recasts - a verifiable indication of which ones would also be useful, if you happen to know.... You say one old mould was used for recasts. Perhaps you know this from personal involvement in the project - but it still needs a verifiable source. You say these recasts date from the Leith Project around 1983. Good to know - but again, you haven't backed this up with a citation from a verifiable source. I'm sure you can appreciate the need for all users to be able to check that your information is correct. Best Lisaseventyfive (talk) 12:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hi The photo you added of the grave inscription is actually that of John Ritchie Findlay's (1824-1898) eldest son Sir John Ritchie Findlay (1866-1930). (Unimaginative child naming!) The father is buried in the same plot, but his name appears on the same stone as John Ritchie. Do you want to move the picture to Sir John's article or I can do it if you prefer?

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I sorted it soon after doing my work on all three yesterday... grave-finding--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Waldhorn. I noticed that you made a change to an article, St Pancras Old Church, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —Waldhorn (talk) 04:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC) The source is standing in the church and reading the gravestone!!! I note the names and then cross check who in the graveyard is mentioned in Wikipedia but does not have their grave location shown, It seems anti-productive to remove such information and you are the first person to ever remove such useful information on the basis that it is not written down somewhere. The graveyard itself is a public place and the information is verifiable in that sense. On the articles of those referred to I give a precise grave location to add future searchers as "in the cemetery" is too vague". I can refer upwards in Wikipedia if you are not happy with my response but my normal grave-location excersises are usually received with thanks from Wikipedia rather than REMOVED> you must remember the PURPOSE of such information. Are YOU claiming these people are NOT there? Go and look for yourself before you delete!!--Stephencdickson (talk) 09:42, 25 September 2014 (UTC) By the way, I was planning to edit the article further, adding the names of those already with Wikipedia articles listed on the Burdett Coutts Memorial to "graves" lost... this includes Sir John Gurney... whose monument is still there and legible...the only issue on his monument is that due to the building of the railway his inscription faces the boundary.. but it is odd that no-one has the gumption to stick there head around and read the reverse. Each of my additions can be checked in PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF on the articles of the persons involved--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Is there any point of me adding further edits re the Burdett Coutts memorial or would you also remove that??--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:04, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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I am happy to add photographic proof but it would clutter the article. The John Gurney grave is perhaps the oddest omission as it is pretty big, in good condition, and still legible... its only issue is that it faces a hedge as it has been cut short on setting due to the railway... amusingly even Baroness Burdett Coutts researchers seem to have missed it.. as no-one seems to have ever popped their head round the back...I have already added photographic proof to those names I added on their own article... but I know Wikipedia does not allow use of Wikipedia as a reference as it creates a viscous circle in cases of error... that said much written referencing is unreliable...personally, where graves are concerned, I believe my own eyes... if there is a large monument with the correct name, dates and background then it is the correct grave... that said "in memory of" often alludes to bodies buried elsewhere...It would seem a shame to remove these useful additions I made. If I search and search I may find a book that backs it up.. but on other graveyards and cemetery articles which I have written or edited I have not been previously challenged on this sort of addition...--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:11, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, I've removed an image from the Banks article, and note that you are adding many images to many articles, not quite sure why - but I see that several are from Wedgewood: this suggests that you may have a trove of Wedgewood images, and are looking about for a home for them? This is a backwards way of building articles, and is as likely to make them worse as better. In the case of the Banks article, there are certainly (more than) enough images of the man there already, and more is definitely worse. Please try to be selective in your additions to Wikipedia; it is already useful to add the images to Commons, and if you have many from one source or on one topic, it would be good to make Commons pages of those images, rather than trying to cram them all into Wikipedia willy-nilly.

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Rather than a "treasure trove" I was simply adding a small number of images from the British Museum, mainly looking to populate little or unillustrated articles. I admit Banks has several images but none in relief or low relief so I felt it was not a redundant exercise--Stephencdickson (talk) 21:03, 10 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear it's not very many, and that we agree about Banks. However I note that you're still not marking images 'upright'. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:40, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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Please give more thought to your edit summaries. "addition" isn't a very meaingful comment (and "-- " doesn't work there). -- Pemilligan (talk) 18:58, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Restored back to its ungrammatical unuseful form... well done.. very constructive... if i put "bad grammar" it might be accurate but I do not wish to upset the author --Stephencdickson (talk) 19:13, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If your change to Gunman's Walk had just been a matter of grammar, then "bad grammar" would have been a good edit summary. The problem with your addition, as I expressed in the edit summary, was the appearance of original research (though it appeared to be an expression of opinion, too). It would have been appropriate to provide a supporting citation given the new content you were adding. -- Pemilligan (talk) 20:01, 29 November 2014 (UTC) sounds a bit hypocritical given that much of your own additions appear original research--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hi. Someone should get around to telling you that you do not need to put the four tildes in an edit summary, just in comments. Hope this helps.--  SabreBD  (talk ) 20:33, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

i was SPECIFICALLY told to do it that wat by another person ... in a VERY threatening manner... the difficulty i find is that there are several approaches to editing none of which is absolutlely correct.. my guess is that if I stop then someone else will criticise the absence !! --Stephencdickson (talk) 12:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


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Incorrect. It was specifically requested in edit summaries--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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If you READ the links you will see they relate to Thomas's FATHER Peter Scheemakers... and mention Thomas within the bulk of the text... The article is fine --Stephencdickson (talk) 11:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * It is all from the SAME source which I cited in the other edits,,, re-citing it looked very crowded but I will do so again... to save time it is useful (and polite) to contact the editor (as most do) rather than delete as it saves EVERYONE (you and I) time and effort to repeat --Stephencdickson (talk) 23:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC) I also note that you removed the referenced additions ! what is THAT about???--Stephencdickson (talk) 23:03, 12 January 2015 (UTC) I cited the reference with ISBN number... if you do not cease wasting other peoples time I will report this--Stephencdickson (talk) 23:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I found sources for some of the information... like I said in the edit summary, maybe it got truncated, that the one source that I saw seemed to have a weird ISBN and I'd look for the source and provide complete citation info.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 23:10, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree it is weird but it is what the book says... I think because it is a quasi government publication... that however is a pretty feeble reason to delete --Stephencdickson (talk) 23:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I think I was thrown from the start of adding dob/place of birh information that was NOT in the cited source (but I've got a source for that now) - and then that book info was incomplete. It should be clearer once I finish some reference/citation clean-up.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 23:26, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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"Isobel Wylie Hutchison was a Scottish Arctic Traveller and Plant Collector. She was born in 1889 in Carlowrie Castle, Kirkliston and lived there until her death in 1982. She travelled to Iceland, Greenland, the Lofoten Islands Alaska and the Aleutian Islands collecting plants and information for her books. She travelled on her own. She wrote several books about her travels, wrote poems, painted pictures which she published on her return." Peter DC (talk) 14:27, 16 March 2015 (UTC) This is usually best done as a Famous Residents paragraph with a very short description "Arctic traveller" as it otherwise pre-empts that she is the ONLY famous person from Kirkliston (probably not)...--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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You are not answering my question and do not seem to have looked at the sequence of edits. Are you saying a correction to a disambiguation counts as a major edit? --Stephencdickson (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


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 * I am referring to your editing in general. For instance you have even marked your posts above as minor, which is incorrect. These are not minor either:, , , , . I am not passing comment on their validity or otherwise, for instance adding a new reference is clearly a good thing but by definition makes it not a minor edit. Please read that help page, it's very clear. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:33, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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Cheers ... I am more a keen historian than a keen programmer.--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:39, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Thanks for writing this article. I personally think, the second sentence of the introduction could be obmitted ("the narcissistic and incestuous bonds between upper class families"), because the article does not specify an specific narcism or incest

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The article DOES specifically mention marriage to other members of the Dundas family and both property transactions and links to other members of the Dundas family so how much more explicit do you wish? If you look at the Dundas family tree in other articles you will see this is a repeated pattern.--Stephencdickson (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * I had already spotted this discrepancy... I was quoting the site referenced which seemed reliable enough.. the article on Lister Medal is not specific about where each name comes from. I have not checked BMJ which would be the best reliable source.--Stephencdickson (talk) 17:36, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I have found some more on this, and will put it on the article talk page which I where I should have started this discussion, really. Let's hope that there is an explanation! Carcharoth (talk) 17:42, 7 July 2016 (UTC) I've now put what I've found so far on the article talk page. Carcharoth (talk) 18:00, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

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You seem to be consistently making the same punctuation mistake, thus:
 * wrong: Prof Edward Lindsay Ince FRSE (1891-1941) was a
 * right: Prof Edward Lindsay Ince FRSE (1891–1941) was a

Ranges of years, pages, or other numbers use an en-dash, not a hyphen. For example:
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 * right: pages 523–48

This is codified in WP:MOS. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2016 (UTC) As far as I recall my edit on this touched neither hyphen nor en-dash... it was taking out the full dates and moving them to body of text to allow more ease of correct searching in wider internet searches, but I note your comment and will endeavour to remember to use the correct format--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:27, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

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I was interested to find, in Thomas Banks, your edit of a couple of years ago about Joseph Hurlock. I'm drafting an article about Hurlock at present. My interest came from the realisation that he was an FRS (as you added). I have quite an old edition of Gunnis, which is the reference in Joseph Hurlock as things stand, which doesn't comment on him. If you have some other reference for Hurlock, as FRS, it would be helpful. The date of death on the FRS list is the burial date at Stoke Newington, but some outside checking would also be good. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

After some more work, I'm not too concerned: there is a plausible link through the Society of Arts, and the other Joseph Hurlock, the surgeon, looks too old for the FRS. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Stephen - I'm just letting you know what I'm up to in case you see my name pop up in your watchlist regularly. I came by your user page recently and was amazed by how many articles you have created - truly fine work. I gotta say though your referencing sucks big time. No worries though - I'm a gnome who actually likes formatting referrences so have been cleaning up your articles' ref sections for a few days now, using a tool called Refill primarily, but the tool does not fix PDFs so I am also systematically dealing with those manually. I suppose I need to get a life but your prodigious output is deserving of my time. Do let me know if I make any mistakes along the way, (typos can crop up from time to time). Mark  Dask  20:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC) Noted... I do concentrate mainly on setting up the basic articles and "filling gaps" and am aware that they are not perfect in format etc. All input is appreciated--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:05, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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What is said on Andrew Skene and on Henry Jardine about James Skene of Rubislaw doesn't match up. I guess the latter is wrong. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC) I see what you mean. I must have quoted from one of the sources which confuses the two as mentioned in the Andrew Skene article. I will try to iron out the inconsistency. Well spotted !! --Stephencdickson (talk) 17:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for the illustration at Charles Illingworth. May I ask whether you drew that after an existing source and which source you used? I've been browsing through the other 40+ portraits that you've done (I stopped after looking back to, they are very impressive, and the style is an interesting one. I thought about listing them somewhere, but thought I should ask you first. Do you have a listing of those illustrations anywhere? Carcharoth (talk) 14:27, 6 April 2017 (UTC) Yes they are all my own drawings... usually pastel mixed with pen as I an a competent artist... most I do are composites of whatever I can find online and are deliberately created to avoid copyright issues as they then become my own material. It is not intended be done as self-promotion... simply filling gaps needing filled--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:01, 6 April 2017 (UTC) I could add a list on my own User page I guess--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:02, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Up to you. I'm the sort of person that likes to see things like that all in one place, in a gallery even, but I can see why you might want to avoid giving the impression that you were self-promoting. Am glad to hear they are composite works, as that does indeed avoid copyright issues! Do you take commissions? I am asking tongue-in-cheek, as a couple of medical biographies where I thought this sort of illustration might be possible are: Geoffrey Jefferson, James Learmonth, Victor Negus, Stewart Duke-Elder, Russell Brock, Baron Brock (these are from Lister Medal). For some, there might only be one picture so that would be a problem. Or there might be none. Don't feel at all obliged. I am sure photos will surface eventually, and become freely available even later still. Carcharoth (talk) 16:10, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I will take a look and see if I can create something... I quite enjoy the task--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Really pleased to see some of those articles now illustrated! :-) BTW, I noticed on a brief perusal of your user page that you have done some WWI research. Have you edited much in that area on Wikipedia, or is it is case of too many possibilities and deciding to focus on one area? Your work on the Fellows of the Royal Society of Edinburgh (and the extent of the articles created there) is extremely impressive. Carcharoth (talk) 05:12, 8 April 2017 (UTC) The WW1 stuff is most specifically on 1500 volunteers for the 15th Royal Scots = the 1st Edinburgh Pals Battalion aka the Manchester-Scottish...the project does not really have an end as I have been tracking done all the graves plus names on UK memorials...I spent 5 years on it, As a forgotten bit of history many died at Archangel in northern Russia in January 1919 when Britain invaded Russia as a punishment for withdrawing their troops... which is why many UK memorials to WW1 say 1914-1919 not 1914-1918. The research is so extensive that it cannot really be condensed for wikipedia... plus most falls into the forbidden area of original research. It is amazing how different things are ON THE GROUND than just reading regimental histories! Where are you based?--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:17, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I am in London. WWI articles are one of the areas I like to edit in. I see what you mean about the research being so extensive it can't be condensed for Wikipedia. I started on what I thought would be a fairly simple listing of UK Members of Parliament that died in WWI, and the memorials they appear on, and it ballooned out of control. See User:Carcharoth/WWI and WWII deaths (the WWII MP deaths are listed there, and the sons and other relatives on the parliamentary memorials as well). I intend to return to that, if I can work out where to draw the line and put some bits in articles and save other bits for use elsewhere (hopefully). Bit off topic now. Finding the time to finish off (or make progress with) such projects is difficult. It can take years! Carcharoth (talk) 17:43, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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6th/8th Baronet
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I've moved Sir Alexander Grant, 8th Baronet back to the old title, as 8th not 6th - the details in the article match those in the History of Parliament and Oxford DNB which confirm him as the 8th. He was also born ten years after the 5th Baronet died, so couldn't possibly be his son!

Is it possible that there was some weird numbering issue and the 8th is down in some sources as the 6th - I know this has happened for some peerages, but not sure about baronetcies? Andrew Gray (talk) 15:00, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

I am writing an article on the nephew at the moment and there is definitely much confusion between the two people... it also seems odd that the earlier one has the same dates (but not year) for birth and death and it looks like at least some of the info has leaked from one to the other. As far as I can see the one I am looking at (as a member of RSE) seems to say 8th baronet on his grave and his father is listed as Robert Innes Grant, 7th baronet brother to Alexander ... which title he inherited on his death... therefore the existing article logically should be 6th not 8th... I will try to find more sources... I am pretty sure the Alexander Grant I am studying is NOT the 10th baronet... which would follow from your numbering.. ONDB is certainly not infallible, it could be a simple slip confusing the two--Stephencdickson (talk) 15:13, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

I think I need to do a diagram to work it out,,, there seems to also be more than one Robert Innes Grant. I know that sometimes peers are 6th of one title and 8th of another. I guess if I leave the numeral out of my article it leaves it more flexible--Stephencdickson (talk) 15:18, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay, I think I have it. Certainly the RSE list seems to say that Sir Alexander (1826-1884) was the 8th Baronet. However, we have an article at Sir Alexander Grant, 10th Baronet (the chap you're working on?) which seems to match fairly well; it disagrees on some minor details but is basically consistent with the ODNB, which calls him the 10th, as does the National Portrait Gallery.
 * However, the original DNB entry for Alexander (1826-1884) from 1900 has him down as son "of the seventh baronet", and the DNB entry for Alexander Cray (1782-1854) calls him the sixth. The Venn Cambridge Alumni entry for Alexander (1826-1884) calls him the 10th Baronet, but notes that the DNB and one other source give him as the 8th. It's worth noting that the ODNB entries will have been revisions of the older DNB ones, so it implies that a historian has looked at it fairly recently and updated it with the new numbers; the Venn entry also indicates someone making an explicit decision.
 * In the ODNB entry for Alexander (1705-1772), 5th Baronet, it says that he claimed a dormant baronetcy; ie he went back and demonstrated the link between himself and the last known holder. Some of the people in between were not included in the count at the time (because they themselves never claimed the title); note that this 1859 source goes straight from James (1st) to Patrick (2nd) passing over Sweton. The list at Grant baronets has Sweton as 3rd and Patrick as 4th.
 * Putting it all together, it suggests that Alexander (1826-1884) called himself the 6th Baronet in his lifetime, but the historians now consider him the 8th. Likewise, Alexander Cray (1782-1854) called himself the 8th Baronet (which would explain the gravestone!) but is now considered the 10th. Andrew Gray (talk) 20:18, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

A bit strange... it implies two earlier baronets mysteriously appeared. As a GUESS I think the Grants were some of the several families granted baronetcies in Nova Scotia in the 17th century. I think the Nova Scotia baronetcy predates the Scottish one but is probably the same family i.e. there is no 1st and 2nd Baronet of Dalvey... and the "first baronet of Dalvey" is the 3rd baronet--Stephencdickson (talk) 20:40, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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Apologies... I taught myself simply by looking at existing articles and following cut and paste type techniques...my Edit Page does not seem to look like that shown in the link... and I am NOT a computer whizz... I just like to fill my time as I had a stroke and this occupies myself productively. A little guidance as to where to go on Edit page is welcomed--Stephencdickson (talk) 15:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me; sorry of hear of your stroke. I had amused that you were either stubborn or trying to keep it simple, so I'm glad its the latter in your case. I'm very busy at the moment so won't be able to talk you through step by step. However, I did write a number of introductory pages back when I was an adopter/trainer of new Wikipedians. Here is the one I did on referencing. There is also a video (although slightly out of date) that you can find here which will take you through refToolbar. I hope these help and if you need more help give me a ping. I am still checking my watchlist, I just don't have much spare time for anything else right now. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 19:09, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Ok thanks... I will try to follow--Stephencdickson (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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I see also that you usually link to the transcription page, and I understand why you do that. We don't assign Permanent URLs to transcription pages but rather just to the image page and then, as you'll have seen, give the option to go to the transcription.

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Stephen,

So far I can find was John Robertson Henderson also an Carcinologist. I don't know if he has published in Proceedings and Transactions of the Natural History of Glasgow, new series 1: 315-353. The author is J.R. Henderson or is this an other J.R. Henderson? PeterR (talk) 10:34, 18 February 2018 (UTC) This would appear highly unlikely as a carcinologist would require medical training. J R Henderson is a VERY common name both now and then. I doi NOT think this would be a safe addition.--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hi there. I only just got the alert about the threads over on Commons. I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but will try and say something before the threads are archived. I am sorry if the advice I gave you was incorrect (I am not sure the advice was incorrect, but Commons is frequently more conservative than it needs to be, and that is very unfortunate in this case, particularly give the amount of effort you put into those images). Carcharoth (talk) 06:14, 28 March 2018 (UTC) Any help greatly appreciated. The definition of "derivative" work seems to be being misinterpreted as by the seeming interpretation any photo of a man-made 20th century object or image is "cerivative"--Stephencdickson (talk) 14:12, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, I have been working on the New Town, Edinburgh article, trying to improve the structure of the text and balance of the illustrations. Perhaps you would like to have a look! I think you understand these Edinburgh articles as well as anybody! Regards.  Klein zach  12:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC) I will take a look--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

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I will need to check my source material... it was certainly not intended to be Lorimer who is already illustrated--Stephencdickson (talk) 19:14, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Given that other sources (eg. 1) appear to back up the identity of the scottisharchitects.org.uk portrait as being Robert Stodart Lorimer, I've removed this image from the Peter MacGregor Chalmers article, at least for now. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. Do you know what the signature is on your source drawing?  It could still be OK as a Lorimer illustration, but we would need to identify that artist at the very least.  Carl Lindberg (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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Greetings. We recently had a bot change over 1,200 articles that contained "BIOGRAPHICAL INDEX OF FORMER FELLOWS OF THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF EDINBURGH 1783 – 2002" to title case and unspaced en dash, as "Biographical Index of Former Fellows of the Royal Society of Edinburgh 1783–2002". If you would use that format in new articles, we would not need to dust off that bot task at some point in the future. Happy editing! Chris the speller  yack  18:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC) It was not myself who originally created the link. I have just been using cut and paste as I worked through the members. The choice of all capitals would not have been my choice--Stephencdickson (talk) 19:14, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page James Montagu Frank Drummond (Scottish Botanist)
Dear Stephen,

I was interested in your page on James Drummond. I am related to James Drummond and was interested in your reference to him being a distant cousin of Rev Henry Drummond from Stirling. Thomas Drummond botanist 1793-1835 is my gt gt gt Grandfather. I liked the sound of Henry Drummond being related and just wondered if you could let me know the records/research you accessed to verify the connection to Henry Drummond. I know that Henry Drummond's Grandfather was a nurseryman and established the firm called Drummond Seeds in Stirling. Any Info on this connection you could provide would be greatly appreciated.89.241.229.71 (talk) 20:20, 15 May 2018 (UTC) I cannot off the top of my head remember ... I only wrote about half of the Henry Drummond (evangelist) article... but it definitely seems to say he was the son of the founder of Drummond seeds (a firm I know well as I am from that area and a keen gardener)...as far as I can see the stated link between Drummonds is correct... the "distant cousin" means second cousin at closest, but it was a link worth mentioning--Stephencdickson (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

K A Pyefinch
Hello Stephen Just to let you know that I’m proposing to amend an entry you made for K A Pyefinch (my father). I’d like to add information to all sections and correct inaccuracies. Details on the K A Pyefinch talk page. Peg Pyefinch (talk) 07:36, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page James Montagu Frank Drummond (Scottish Botanist)
Hello Stephen, Many thanks for your reply. If you remember where you got the link to Reverend Henry Drummond from, do let me know. It will be worth me researching. I know Stirling University Archives have papers on Henry Drummond's family and the business Drummond Seeds.

The line is James Montagu Frank Drummond son of James Ramsay Drummond, son of Reverend James Drummond, (Clackmannan minister) son of Thomas Drummond 1793-1835 (Botanist/ Assistant Naturalist Sir John Franklin's 2nd Arctic Expedition) son of Thomas Drummond gardener Fotheringham estate and his wife Elizabeth Nicol. James Drummond Botanist, Western Australia is the brother of Thomas Drummond 1793-1835.

There is a Reverend James Drummond on this line, who moved from Glamis to Clackmannan, to take up his position as a minister in the Free Church of Scotland in Clackmannan and later died at Bannockburn. This would be in the 1850s when he moved to Clackmannan. There does seem to be some connection with the Stirling area and the ministry in the Free Church of Scotland. He studied at New College, University of Edinburgh as did Henry Drummond. When I saw your reference to Henry Drummond, I thought the connection was maybe from Henry Drummond's grandfather William Drummond born 1760. I thought he might have been a brother to Thomas Drummond born 1756, who was a gardener on the Fotheringham estate. He was born in Perthshire.

I liked the sound of Henry Drummond being related! I have read some of his books and have become familiar with his quotes. If you remember please let me know.

Many thanks

Louise H R Meikle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.170.95 (talk) 20:45, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

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Sophia
In this edit, do you remember where Sophia is? Someone later piped your link to Niulakita in the Pacific, also called Sophia. But that can't be right; for one thing, the Niulakita article says there were no white visitors from 1595 to 1821. For another, the context of your edit implies some location closer to Constantinople. Art LaPella (talk) 19:34, 18 September 2018 (UTC) I had not spotted this disambiguation issue... logically it is Sophia closest to Constantinople --Stephencdickson (talk) 19:42, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Agreed, but I couldn't find a place called Sophia in Turkey or Greece, using Google, unless it's something like Hagia Sophia. Greece is a good guess because it's a Greek word, but then again there were Greek colonies throughout the Mediterranean in ancient times. If it's Greece, we could just change it to "Sophia, Greece" unlinked. Art LaPella (talk) 20:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)... It is Sofia capital of Romania, which was generally spelled Sophia until fairly recently (certainly in the reference used and still when I went to school) --Stephencdickson (talk) 20:15, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Art LaPella (talk) 21:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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Henry John Dobson
Hi Stephen, I've just ( a few minutes ago) had my submission on Henry John Dobson rejected on notability grounds ! I thought he should have his own page on account of his body of work and as both his artist sons have their pages. I'd included some of the same links. Never mind. Regards, Jamie Stuart. Jamie Stuart 20:21, 1 October 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamie Stuart 11 (talk • contribs)

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Additional information about Robert deBruce Trotter.
Dear Stephendickson, I am George Baird Trotter, living in Western Australia. I am g/grandson of Robert deBruce Trotter and have a lot of family information about him. This information comes from family memory and from research. May I advise you that,

firstly, despite the birth date (1834) given on his tombstone in Perth, Scotland, he was actually baptised at Urr, Kirkud. on 8 Aug. 1833 .

secondly, his father's name was plain Dr Robert Trotter (of Dalry), not Robert deBruce Trotter Snr.

thirdly, about his names as author and or editor: Please understand that he encouraged his mother "Maria Trotter" to relate all the folk tales she could remember from her childhood and early years in Wigtownshire. This she did (she clearly states this on ). When Robert published the work in 1877 and a 2nd edition in 1878 he gave the authorship as Maria Trotter with himself as "Saxon" the editor. This he states in the . He re-states this in the . Maria was given on the title page as the author of the stories and he, who wrote them down and carved the little adornments on the pages, was given as "edited by Saxon". In the second book of GG in 1901, usually known as the "Stewartry" volume, the title page is identical, but his mother's name as author is removed and so is "edited by Saxon" and the author's name is given as R. DeBruce Trotter. This is because his mother "Maria" died in 1879, just after the first volume was published. From the prefaces and various pages within the two editions of the books themselves it is clear that Maria Trotter is the author even though she did not physically write them as she narrated them her son to allow him to record her remembered tales. Even in the 1901 volume there are a number of instances where Maria's words are quoted verbatim. The family considers that Maria was the source/author of the 1877 volume and also partially of the 1901 volume. Robert deBruce Trotter was the editor (Saxon) of the 1877 volume and author of the 1901 volume, although some significant stories are narrated therein by Maria. One of the differences between the 1877 volume and the 1901 volume is that some stories in the latter were submitted from people outside the family. We Trotters therefore do not consider it accurate to suggest that R DeB Trotter used both names to attract the two genders to the work. In other words, Maria Trotter (his mother) is not a pseudonym. On this point, I found the same incorrect statement, almost word for word as given above, on the Abebooks site of an Edinburgh bookseller offering Galloway Gossip. I think this is possibly where that story originated?

Please be advised that "Maria's" real name was Martha Nithsdale. She confirms this on p.20 of the 1901 edition. Her father, Daniel Nithsdale, began to believe that he was in fact an illegitimate son of the last Maxwell, Lord of the dormant title of Nithsdale. From c.1830-1832 Martha and her husband Dr Robert Trotter and their son Robert deBruce Trotter also began to believe this and her name can be seen on the various birth records of her children to progress from "Martha Nithsdale" to "Maria Nithsdale" to " Maria Maxwell" etc. etc. There is no evidence for any connection to Maxwell, but the result of this "delusion" is that there are a multitude of records, and even her tombstone, that record her as Maria Nithsdale Maxwell.

I hope this is of help. George Baird Trotter Western Australia 211.26.104.79 (talk) 06:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of George Smith (1833–1919)


The article George Smith (1833–1919) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "WP:Notability acadamics"

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 * Apologies on behalf of who quite obviously made a mistake. Tony May (talk) 05:14, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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Samson Gemmell
Hi I had to revert your edits. Not only did you provide a crummy reference, that was a bare url that could easily have been linked using the cite journal doi lookup wizard, you also changed a fact into a not fact by adding in MB ChM which as a qualification did not exist until some 40+ years after Gemmell took the qualification. You also moved the article out of third voice. Poor quality editing and all of it avoidable, and against the Manual of Style, apart from the simple mistake on the qualification. Can you please be more careful the next time.  scope_creep Talk  18:39, 11 December 2018 (UTC) It is incorrect to say that ChM did not exist... CM and ChM stand for the same thing... whilst Glasgow usually used the abbreviation CM they stepped into line and used the more widely used Scottish abbreviation, as you say, about 40 years later, but for the sake of national understanding versus parochialism ChM is perfectly understandable and more correct on a national basis...BTW your tone sucks--Stephencdickson (talk) 19:16, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Stephencdickson. It is not the correct fact. It took centuries to create that qualification, almost 2000 years of physician work before they could come up with that qualification. Someday, somebody will update the article and the several dozens of articles that have CM MB as linked text, will be linked properly. I really don't see the point in putting a non-fact in, when is suitable to apply a proper fact. Wikipedia is all about precision. The more precise the information, the deeper the understanding of knowledge. You're essentially positing that a specific block of knowledge is of no use, you want to apply a slightly more generic term, diluting the quality of that article. I really don't think that is the best way of doing it, I really don't. That is not the worst. I came across several of your articles, that are generally pretty decent to excellent quality, but a fair to large number have terrible references, and other folks will need to fix them. They as so bad, within 3-5 years, they will be useless to non-existent. The existence of most websites is fleeting, and the only way to preserve that information is to apply properties to the reference, so it easy to find the info later. This may help: Refb. My tone is terrible. Other people used to comment on it when I was working when I was a nipper in the corporate world. I write in an exceedingly male voice as it is my nature, and years ago when I was working in Edinburgh in the 1990's I had to be sent on an expensive communications course, to learn how to modulate it, which I did for a while, but I've mostly forgotten everything, hence the tone.   scope_creep Talk  22:39, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

If we are discussing "non-facts" (not that this is a word!) your last paragraph is full of them. Both C and Ch are an abbreviation for Chirugery?Chirurgical ... or in modern spelling Surgery... it is a Scots word not a Latin word... though arguably has a Latin root. The non-conformity of Glasgow in calling the degree CM is easily proven... when it was later renamed ChM or ChB it was NOT due to a change in the teaching content, it was simply a regularisation so that all universities used the same abbreviations.--Stephencdickson (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, If you think that is correct show me a source, and I will adopt it, in all articles that write in the future, and change all the ones I have done in the past.  scope_creep Talk  15:16, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

If you look at Wikipedia :p you will see an article on ChM ... and the article on CM has no reference to medical degrees. Glasgow used CM as an abbreviation but was at odds with most of the country who called it ChM. Or do you have your own definition for CM outwith the medical degree? As I say Glasgow came into line in the 20th century, but if you like the archaic and misleading CM (which is non-intelligible to the international world) play it your way--Stephencdickson (talk) 15:29, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The only reason I used it in that article, was the Glasgow Univesity article used, and their article was likely peer reviewed before it was published, which means they still refer to it as CM etc. It is likely that they have whole books, documents, papers going back 40-50 years that use the term, so they think it is still valid. I will put a link to next to it, to the modern version.  scope_creep Talk  09:54, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of William Smellie (geologist) for deletion
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Virtually by definition every Fellow of a Royal Society is worthy of inclusion. Some articles are necessarily stubs (as this one) as the full scope of their contribution to science is unclear. But election to the Royal Society is an accolade few can aspire to. Not you or I.--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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John Murray Mitchell (missionary)
Hi, I have a vague memory that we have had words about your unwillingness to abide by WP:V and WP:RS somewhere before but, regardless, I've reverted you at John Murray Mitchell (missionary) because it simply will not do. You source stuff, and you source it reliably, otherwise I will bin it.

Trade, street and phone directories - which is just about the only thing you did provide as a source for your changes - are completely unsuitable. You have no idea if the person mentioned in them is the same as the one about whom you are writing. There are very few people in this world, certainly back in Victorian times, who are uniquely named. (Oddly, my sister-in-law is one, due to immigration officially mishearing her parents' name, but it is a rare event and there have likely been tens of thousands od John Murray Mitchells.) - Sitush (talk) 19:00, 27 January 2019 (UTC) This is a wholly incorrect observation. I only add Street Directory information when I am 100% sure it is the correct person. Despite your opinion that there are thousands of people with this name you are wrong. This is the advantage of a three name system. People with only two names I accept your logic. But you are wrong in regard to three.--Stephencdickson (talk) 19:08, 27 January 2019 (UTC) By the way the Garvock reference you deleted was not my addition, all I did was create a potential link if an article is written on Garvock.. more haste less speed... and a charming attitude to editing (not)--Stephencdickson (talk) 19:11, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Most accept post office directories as 100% reliable, my guess is you have never looked at them, if you did you would realise that they also state occupation of the person, which pinpoints them exactly. Before you criticise check your own facts. --Stephencdickson (talk) 19:17, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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February 2019
Hello, I'm Thegooduser. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Alexander Moody Stuart, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 20:18, 3 February 2019 (UTC) I dont really understand your reversion. Some were grammatical changes as the previous article had an archaic style. References were mainly sourced from Ewings Annals and Free church of Scotland Monthly (both of which I cited) but included on-line refs such as findagrave... I truly think your reversion is unhelpful and not in the public interest as it has gone back to a sloppy article with several bits that did not make chronological sense. If you read my edit re the period around 1843 you will see what I mean. Moreover, much of the edit was filling in "blanks" as the previous author had some preconceived ideas which need explaining. I think it is important to clarify the Church of Scotland from the Free Church of Scotland. I am unclear of your objective as to me my references were adequate ... the essence should be that others can verify... which they can if they have the correct sources.--Stephencdickson (talk) 20:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC) If you now read what you have done you should spot the numerous problems, not least of which is a non-sequential chronology! the previous and now reverted form is poor and illogical... I had not finished my edit but if you must revert an item can you please at least reorganise into the correct sequence of events--Stephencdickson (talk) 20:43, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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Your edit to Thomas Lipton page
In your edit you added that his family moved due to the famine, where is your source for this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Lipton&oldid=683171691#Parentage_and_childhood

Are you aware that they are in Scotland on the 1841 Census?!?

KDDA (talk) 21:32, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

It all comes from the same source: The Late Victorians: Thomas Lipton.... although the Irish potato famine is usually given the date of 1845 it was several years in the build up. I have no personal knowledge on Lipton but the famine is common knowledge--Stephencdickson (talk) 01:08, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Wish
Hello. Help improve for article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. Arina56 (talk) 12:22, 10 February 2019 (UTC) I will check later today. Just going out to take some photos to feed into Wikimedia --Stephencdickson (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for contributing to the article Alexander Henderson of Press. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that material must be verifiable and attributed to reliable sources. You have recently used citations which copied, or mirrored, material from Wikipedia. This leads to a circular reference and is not acceptable. Most mirrors are clearly labeled as such, but some are in violation of our license and do not provide the correct attribution. Please help by adding alternate sources to the article you edited! If you need any help or clarification, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or ask at New contributors' help page, or just ask me. Thank you. Kuru  (talk)  12:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC) The list of provosts is publically visible as a dis[play board in Edinburgh, but is this a valid reference?--Stephencdickson (talk) 17:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Possibly, you may want to get clarification at WP:RSN. In the meantime, please stop adding links to blatant mirrors - you've just added two more. Kuru   (talk)  01:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Stephen, I'm not sure how to be more transparent about this, but it now seems that you are deliberately adding links to references you are clearly aware are mirrors, as you just did here. I'm not sure how to get your attention to this.  Kuru   (talk)  12:59, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Borgue Highland
Hello Stephen, According to the source cited, "Ewings Annals of the Free Church ", the Rev Samuel Smith, Rev James T. Stuart and the Rev George Elder were ministers of Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire in Galloway. Jamie Stuart (talk) 00:34, 10 March 2019 (UTC) Thanks, I will check. Unless you already changed?--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi. Just mentioning: in the Rhubarb article, you added information about Scottish cultivation, with a named reference ... that doesn't actually link to a reference. It's just named. IAmNitpicking (talk) 13:10, 3 November 2019 (UTC) Grants Old and New Edinburgh is a readily accessed 19th century book that predates ISBN but many pdf versions appear on line,, the reference to rhubarb is in the history of Edinburgh's Botanical Garden--Stephencdickson (talk) 14:07, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hello, I am writing in the hope of making contact with the main author of the page on Richard Ellis. I am interested to find out the source of information for the claim that he adopted two children during the Spanish Civil War. I would also love to know of any other sources of information on Richard as he was my maternal grandfather and I know very little about him. Any details of source reference s apart from those already listed would be very welcome. Thank you for your time and effort in putting this article together 🙏 2A01:4C8:48:22FC:1:2:A84:B09E (talk) 18:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC) Yes I wrote this... as one of around 2000 articles I wrote of Fellows of the Royal Society of Edinburgh... so the sad thing I suppose is that I have no specialist knowledge I just set myself a list and worked through them one bt one... The information on the Spanish Civil War was from Munks Rolls, however, their website has changed quite radically since I did the article and is now much harder to get into--Stephencdickson (talk) 22:36, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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Eagleash (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC) I try to do an article per day and am a Protected Editor... certainly I know his face from multiple programmes... I never understand the mistrust of IMDb as it seems more reliable than TV guides which seem to be acceptable... I was not really planning to put any more work into it as I have other things to do--Stephencdickson (talk) 21:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC) I would also point out in regards to notability that Alldredge comes up in multiple existing articles in his various roles --Stephencdickson (talk) 21:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hello there. I notice that you added some information to the article on the Fountainbridge area of Edinburgh not too long ago. One of your references was "By the Three roads, Aberdeen University Press" - could you be more specific about what this is and where you got it from? I haven't been able to track it down on Google. Zacwill (talk) 14:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC) I seem to have missed a critical word... sorry... it is By The Three Great Roads--Stephencdickson (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * A year, author, page number, etc. would be helpful too. Zacwill (talk) 14:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC) Its a community book which is why its flagged as Aberdeen University Press ISBN 0 08 036587 6
 * Nevertheless, you need to provide a proper reference. Zacwill (talk) 19:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hi - I have added a few missing references to your additions to this article. I cannot find any sources which mention an earlier wife. Please feel free to insert something about his first wife if you have a source. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 22:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC) I found nothing but he is referred to as a "widower" so logically was married before. Also since he was by then 50 it would be normal to presume an earlier wife.--Stephencdickson (talk) 22:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * OK. Let's continue to try and find details. Thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC) I was mainly researching his nephew Sir Digby Dent and info on this Digby Dent was coming up tangentially as they were alive at same time. I had to take off ref. to HMS Queensborough as that was "my Dent" hh… I will try to relocate where I found the word "widower".--Stephencdickson (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

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Your editing
Hello Stephen. You will have seen that I have edited numerous articles that you have created. Can I please ask you to abide by the Manual of Style and also reconsider in what you include that this is an encyclopaedia not a family history site. In terms of the former, please do not continue to add honorific titles to names, which MOS:HON is very clear about. On the latter, James Barclay (minister) is a good example of what I mean: the street address someone was living at in a particular year is rarely encyclopaedic content (perhaps only if it was a very famous address), and using directory/census information for this seems to me to be original research. And then including a unsourced comment that "Barclays literary works are not clear, but his twin doctorates would usually link to academic writing of some kind." is pure speculation and editorialising. I appreciate that you have done a lot of work building a huge number of articles, but I would have thought that doing so for such a long time should mean that these kinds of core guidelines should be second nature. Thank you. Melcous (talk) 11:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC) To me the "research" of a Post Office Directory is done by its creator, not myself, and if someone is worthy of an encyclopedic entry then their address is always of interest. As regards some "comments" some aspects are self-evident. I presume you have an academic background so you know that DD and LLD are ALWAYS honorary doctorates given in response to written (academic works). Whilst family history, I agree, is not always relevant, in spartan articles I hope it might allow future researchers to more readily fill in some gaps, and the information is rarely wholly irrelevant.--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * With respect, to suggest that anyone notable enough for a wikipedia article should have their address listed does not make sense and would lead to articles being full of lists of addresses that add no value for readers. In terms of doctorates or any other academic degrees, honorary or not, perhaps read MOS:DOCTOR which is even clearer - they should not be included in the way that you have regularly been doing. Melcous (talk) 14:02, 7 September 2021 (UTC) I think you miss the fact that DD and LLD are regularly shown by all contributors but wrongly labelled as a normal degree.. although "honorary" they are awarded on pure merit and are especially noteworthy where awrded by a foreign university.. but are more usual from an alma mater. I also think you misunderstand the title Very Rev...which is only used for a former leader (Moderator) of the entire church... and is the Scottish equivalent of Archbishop. The title is only adopted after the role ends (being Right Rev during service) and should be used in the same way as seculsr titles such as Lord. I presume your knowledge of the Church of Scotland is limited as I am sure you would not remove Archbishop as a prefix to Church of England articles--Stephencdickson (talk) 14:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you are incorrect, I would indeed remove Archbishop as an honorific prefix in the the opening line of a biography. Have a look at Justin Welby for example - the title Archbishop is not used with his name in the opening line of the article, because as I have now repeatedly pointed you to, the WP:MOS is clear that it should not be used in that way. You appear to be something of a subject matter expert, but perhaps that focused view can lead to missing the bigger picture, which is consistency and policies that apply across the whole project to all the thousands of biographies here. Melcous (talk) 23:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

My intention is not to break the rules but to aid a general Google search, and particularly with common names like John Smith it helps to narrow the field. I presume there is no objection to adding in the lower text of an article "whilst serving as Moderator he was titled as Right Reverend and after service was titled as Very Rev" ?--Stephencdickson (talk) 10:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You have continued to add honorific prefixes and suffixes in contradiction to the manual of style, as well as create multiple articles with the same issues of poor sourcing, original research, and editorialising/point of view. It would be great if you could take more care and seek to follow these accepted guidelines. I would also be interested to know if you are aware of any consensus here that holding the one year position of moderator automatically makes a person notable. Thank you Melcous (talk) 11:43, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

I have to presume with that response that you are not British and/or do not understand the British church (and especially the Scottish church. I would certainly say that EVERY moderator deserves a mention as this is the egalitarian Scottish system but would equate to an Archbishop. I also think it is necessary to any search engine that a Very Rev JohnSmith is distinguished from a Rev John Smith as this is the usual method of pinpointing. Whilst I have deffered on the issue of prefixing, it is wholly legitimate to explain how that person would thereafter be addressed in person or documents. If your argfument is that Scotland is not big enough to metit the leader of its church being an article I would highlight that the church not only served the population of Scotland but also several million in India and Africa and in the Scottish population within the Commonwealth.--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Probably best not to make presumptions or assumptions about what others do or don't understand. Obviously this is a topic about which you are very passionate and knowledgable but I am trying to point out that wikipedia has its own guidelines and conventions, a core one of which is notability criteria. While no doubt many, even most, of these people meet it, my question is whether there has been any consensus reached here that someone meets it simply by virtue of holding this particular office (which I would personally argue does not "equate" with an Archbishop, given the completely different church structures). But it is not about my opinion, nor yours, but about the wikipedia community reaching consensus - that's how this project works. Melcous (talk) 01:19, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

I am increasingly concerned that your editing and more so your comments, exceed a purely administrative role. In particular your comment that "not every moderator deserves a wikipedia entry" is particularly concerning. I must preseme either you have a lack of understanding of the status of this position or you have some axe to grind on the subject matter. I am going to presume that the comments are aimed at some of the more humble moderators... but this truly shows a great acheivement. If you have an objection to this you either have an elitist outlook on the topic or (hopefully not) some underlying bigotry. I would be extremely concerned if the "Wikipedia community" took issue with any entry on any Moderator of the Church of Scotland... in which case you require to explain why one (or more) does not require an article--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:05, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please assume good faith rather than throwing around accusations of elitism or bigotry. Please also do not put words into my mouth: I did not say "not every moderator deserves a wikipedia entry". I asked the question as to whether there is any consensus that holding the role of moderator in and of itself automatically means a person meets wikipedia's notability criteria, and I do not believe this has been answered. I'm not sure, for example, that it meets WP:ANYBIO; and I cannot see any specific discussion of notability criteria that would cover this situation. The question has been asked at Articles for deletion/Thomas Taylor (moderator), and certainly one editor has suggested that it is a "strong indicator" of notability, but you appear to be proceeding on the basis that it is automatically an indicator of notability, which is not exactly the same thing. If all the historical information available is that a person lived, died, and held this position, do they meet wikipedia's notability criteria? I flagged the article Ernest David Jarvis for that reason. Another editor flagged the article Lewis Gordon (minister) back in 2019 for a similar reason. The issue has not been resolved. Melcous (talk) 12:40, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

I appreciate that your approach to the Scottish system may be an unintentional slur but it is a slur nevertheless. The head of any religious system is a very major thing, and if you/Wikipedia were to remove any (nothing to do with my authorship or not) this would be of major concern. The Scottish system is unlike almost all others but is a legitimate system operational for 450 years. It would be a very sad world if it were decided that only those Moderators of the more magnificentb churches were noteworthy. The whole point is that all are equal in status and their role is only flagged AFTER its cessation by the title Very Rev... a title which unlike Sir continues after death. I had spotted a number of gaps in the list which were largely due to issues such as common names John Smith etc... I also have no particular axe to grind... I am mainly addressing the List of Moderators as it is a very dry topic which has a few gaps here and there.... and I am trying to fill those gaps... removal of the "Very Rev" address is irksome and to my mind my reformatting does not breach the Wiki rules on honorific titles in the lead line ...and really needs to be said somewhere as most Scots or people understanding the Scots system would search using Very Rev John Smith et al ... --Stephencdickson (talk) 13:01, 28 September 2021 (UTC) I have sought legal opinion on both your editing and your above comments. Two legal friends familiar with internet law have read the wikipedia guidance on honorifics and we remain EXTREMELY CONCERNED by your editing as it far exceeds an admin tidy up and strays very much into changing both content and understanding. The rules on honorifics say such may be used "if it is how the person is usually known"... You seem to wholly misunderstand the entire Scottish church system, as such your over editing is at best dangerous but I am also sad to say would appear to be highly bigotted. Not all moderators are known as "very Rev"... your editing out of when this was applied to any individual (within the BODY OF THE TEXT) would seem to have a very peculiar axe to grind. To all legal opinions, whether the lead in honorofic editing is legitimate or not, that within the text is both counter to the honorific guidelines and counter to the spirit of Wikipedia in impartation of accurate information. As these mid-text edits seem to have a wider objection we all three consider this to be inappropriate bigotry, and/or you have zero understanding of the subject matter (in which case it is also wise not to edit). I have finished my "Moderator project" but I see your editing on this topic (whether my articltes or those of others) is widespread and mischeivous PLEASE REVERT ALL MID TEXT EDITS AS YOU CLEARLY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE AND HAVE A VERY BIASED VIEW ON BOTH THE HONORIFIC GUIDELINES AND THE SCOTTISH CHURCH.--Stephencdickson (talk) 15:03, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I do not care what the lawyers you have consulted think, that is not how wikipedia works (and you should probably read WP:NLT - I'm not suggesting you have made a legal threat here, but please be careful not to even come close to doing so). Wikipedia works by editors engaging in discussion to reach consensus, which I have asked multiple times if you have done regarding this, and to which question you have not once responded. You have also continued to disregard WP:AGF, now again making incorrect assumptions and imputations against my motives and intelligence. And you have continued to make the same kind of edits that you have previously agreed go against the WP:MOS (e.g. including academic suffixes after a person's name). I have no bias against the Scottish church, but I would suggest that you may too close to the subject to be being seeing things from a neutral point of view. I would also suggest you have been editing here long enough that you could take some time to learn some other basic rules of wikipedia etiquette such as how to tag other editors and indent posts in a discussion, as again, this helps editors here work together, not just do their own thing, which is the entire point of the project. Melcous (talk) 23:53, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

My issue (and that of every Scot I have spoken to and shown your comments) is that it is yourself who is failing to maintain a NEUTRAL STANCE.. In terms of "working together" you are nagating a broad swathe of work by a number of people far beyond any legitimate wikipedia guideline..and certainly most Scots find your editing (to quote my contacts) "outrageous" and "deeply concerning". I consulted lawyers not as any threat but to check the interpretation of Wiki rules and NO_ONE agrees with your interpretation. It seems hard to credit that you claim to know how these people were or were not known and are editing to suit your own agenda. Unless you have any knowledge in the field please restrict yourself to admin tidy ups in STRICT accordance with rules NOT YOUR INTERPRETATION--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This is not a Scottish issue, stop trying to make it one. It is a wikipedia guideline issue. Here is a strict accordance with the rules for you (emphasis added in bold): "honorific prefixes—styles and honorifics in front of a name—in Wikipedia's own voice should not be included, but may be discussed in the article. In particular, this applies to: styles and honorifics derived from a title, position or activity, including The Most Noble, The Most Honourable, The Right Honourable, and The Honourable; styles and honorifics related to royalty, clergy, and sainthood, such as Her Majesty, His Holiness, The Reverend, and The Venerable." Melcous (talk) 11:15, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

It is you who is not getting it, I completely agree "the most honourabe XYZ" needs to come out... but the guidance is very clear that IF IT IS HOW THEY ARE USUALLY KNOWN it stays in... what the Scottish concensus agree is that YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND... if you want to prove the point to yourself google some examples you have wrongly edited to another site and you will find a huge number are NORMALLY known as Very Rev XYZ. Therefore this form is permited even in the entry line... but the area where you are being particularly outrageous is removing "known as Very Rev XYZ form 1843 etc" from the body of the text. Viewing your edits they have drifted from an earlier neutral stance and are mainly DESTRUCTIVE rather than CONSTRUCTIVE and are counter not only to the spirit of Wiki but also the wording. As the focus (for some reason) appears upon the Scottish Church we can only presume a highly undesirable bias on your part--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Please point out where the Manual of Style says "if it is how they are usually known". Are you referring to MOS:CREDENTIALS which says "when the subject is widely known by a pseudonym or stage name containing such a title" (which does not apply because we are not talking about pseudonyms or stage names)? Melcous (talk) 12:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * (And just to be clear, I have been editing regarding the WP:MOS and MOS:CREDENTIALS across a whole range of biographies on wikipedia for quite a long time. The only reason I have edited so many articles to do with the Scottish church is that there are so many that have this exact same issue.) Melcous (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Wow.. all have "exactly the same ISSUE".. this is why I got lawyers to look at it... no one agrees your stance... you are effectively sayong all other editors were wrong.. You DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM... you are causing insult to the entire Scottish church ... the Scots never used a system akin to "Moderator John Smith" but it has to explain the step to Very Rev in a wiki summary somewhere or it becomes meaningless... and underlying all this is your hiding behind the view that "there is no wiki concensus that all moderators should have an article" which is like someone saying "their is no concensus that every prime minister of Australia desreves an article". The entire population of Scotland is wrong... but you are right! Reread the rules. and try to edit without insulting a whole country's religious system--Stephencdickson (talk) 13:30, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * And again, there is a very simple way to resolve this. I have pointed you to wikipedia guidelines. Please point me to where in the Wikipedia Manual of Style you think it says that it is ok to include these titles as you have been doing. Otherwise, simply stop doing it and move on. Melcous (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * [An aside: The notability question is a separate issue, and one it would be good to be able to have a civil discussion about. But having been accused of "bigotry" and "elitism", being "mischievous" and "outrageous", and having "zero understanding" and "an axe to grind", I'm sadly not really in the mood to do so. Suffice it to say, "Prime Minister of Australia" is not a comparable topic - there is a clear wikipedia guideline (WP:NPOL) that says unambiguously that national politicians are by definition notable for wikipedia articles. Unfortunately there is no similar guideline for church leaders, hence my raising the question in the first place. But if the very idea of me asking that is taken as a "slur" then it's hard to see a constructive way forward to reach one.] Melcous (talk) 14:30, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

There are two issues in editing a) is the title honorofic: it is not in the same mode as "the honourable" but I have conceded on the lead-ins b) my issue is that you are removing the terminology from the inner body of the text which is clearly not what is intended in the guidelines and greatly depletes the articles. However, I am going to give up trying to explain to you. You have caused widespread offence. End of story. You pin it on wikiguidelines but this is mainly your own whim as some alleged expert on the Scots church and terminologies. As to your dismissive attitude which implies not all leaders of an entire religious system for an entire country need an article I will let you ponder the stupidity of this rather than you saying "their is no concensus" You hide behide Wiki rules rather than take ownership of your own very peculiar editing. I am obviously wasting my time. Please try to realise how offensive you are being not to me but to the Scottish church. I do not understand why you do not see this.--Stephencdickson (talk) 16:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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As a Moderator is the leader of the entire church you seem to misunderstand the importance of this position! --Stephencdickson (talk) 18:35, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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Mapping moderators
I don't know if this is of interest, but after looking at the ongoing AfD, I thought that the Moderators of the General Assembly might be something to visualise (as I have been attempting for 19th century Scottish railways and football clubs in recent weeks). Perhaps, I thought, something of the changing centres of culture in the country could become evident? So I tried this mapping this morning. Ideally, to be useful such a query could locate each Moderator by their year and by their then-location but, sadly, the information captured in Wikidata seems rather deficient at present. However, map visualisations can sometimes be helpful: previously it has shown wildly-wrong data such as a New Zealand railway station linked to Scotland, and the present map did identify one Moderator whose death location had been mis-allocated from Helensburgh to San Diego. AllyD (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2021 (UTC) Hi, curious to know who got relocated to San Diego hhh...sometimes logic goes out of the window. As you will see I have been doing many articles on moderators, ironicallty not due to any special interest, but I have a lot of spare time and this ultra boring research keeps my head busy, and is unlikely to be targetted by others... that said I am having some trouble with other editors who seem not to understand the Scottish system.. or the status which Moderrator actually holds. I think the problem is that it does not now mean what it used to mean. In terms of mapping I am uncertain it serves any great function... Edinburgh and Glasgow have a very high proportion. When it comes to small parishes my observation would be that some truly tiny parishes can produce 3 or 4 Moderators... a perfect example being Urray which is truly tiny and produced one Moderator of C of S and three Free Church Moderators. I would like to do more Free Church Moderators but their "modesty" makes the topic really hard and most I have found have been through the inscriptions on their gravestones (which is my main focus of research. Only from that point can I start filling in the blanks... The AfD discussion is to my mind highly disrespectful of the Scottish system and I am sure no other secular or religious leader of a whole country would ever be discussed for deletion!--Stephencdickson (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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Mirrors, again
Stephen - as per our previous conversation which was prompted by your addition of a very clearly identified copy of a wikipedia article here, here, here, and here it seems we need to revisit the problem. You have begun adding the same mirror here and here. I'm not sure how to be more clear: stop adding sources that you are aware are fake. Thanks. Kuru  (talk)  11:57, 18 October 2021 (UTC) A bit rude... and not quite sure what you mean by "fake"... all my articles and editing is done in good faith. I was not aware that every site with "wiki" in the title was banned and I do not always scrutinise the web addresses. Some of my usual sources disappeared so I was left with a dilemma and used the best source I could find but did not think they were under the Wikipedia umbrella. Often the problem (ironically) is that is is hard to see where some Wikipedia articles (especially lists) were sourced. I will try to avoid anything that looks derivative--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:01, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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Draft: David Leitch (minister)
You will see that I moved this article to draft space because when I came across it, the content did not match the title and it had no WP:RS. I see now that you were apparently working on a new article and seem to have made a mistake in doing so on this article rather than in your sandbox, so I trust that can be sorted out. I appreciate your usual practice of waiting until an article is more "ready to go" before moving it to main space and thus am sure this was inadvertent - as was my not realising that was what had happened until after I had moved it to draft. Thanks Melcous (talk) 21:16, 26 October 2021 (UTC) You are a bit quick off the mark to the extent that I presume you are monitoring me!... I accidentally deleted a big section and have redone it... on you part "more haste less speed"--Stephencdickson (talk) 21:20, 26 October 2021 (UTC) Check history before you make a sudden change
 * I'm not "monitoring you", but I do have my preferences set up to check new biographies in certain areas of interest, in one of which you create a very large proportion! I saw the history, but yes, missed that the most recent editing was at almost the same time as I was reading it, and misunderstood the error that had occurred. Melcous (talk) 21:27, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I have got a few people monitoring your edits which I still conclude are highly bigotted and have no understanding whatsoever of the Scottish system or as to who is normally known as Very Rev and who is not. You seem to have sabotaged nearly every entry relating to Scottish clergy and whilst some can be bracketed as legitimate the bulk is not legitimate editing.--Stephencdickson (talk) 21:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow. I was trying to be polite and believe I have always assumed good faith regarding your editing, even though I have disagreed with it. You have yet again made personal attacks against me as an editor, which is not acceptable practice here. My edits are abiding by the Manual of Style. You are free to argue that those guidelines should be changed, but unless they are, then those kinds of edits will continue to be made and I would ask you again to stop using language like "bigoted" and "sabotage" when you have been repeatedly advised (by others as well as me) that that is what the MOS says. Melcous (talk) 23:19, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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I'm concerned that you put this into mainspace. There are way too many things wrong with this bio for it to be justifiable that you are WP:Autopatrolled. This is a courtesy notice that I shall remove that flag. That will have no bearing on your ability to edit etc; it just means that your articles will go through the usual patrol process.  Schwede 66  21:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Could you be more specific what the problem is..? I do up to three articles per day... this one is short by I see no reason for it to be problematic and was created in good faith--Stephencdickson (talk) 22:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC) PS I certainly knew the name before I wrote the article so I saw it as a gap to be filled... my normal approach--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:51, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * It is simply from the film itself. I think a film is an acceptable reference --Stephencdickson (talk) 10:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * BTW there were errors in the plot summary as if someone had written without watching the film i.e. the drug car is not replaced by a lookalike... this makes no sense... a lookalike adapted to also have the drugs put back in... if you are happy with all the pre-existing errors fine, so be it--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The information you added about the cars at best seemed to be trivia (how is it relevant to understanding the film?). Sources would be useful to demonstrate that they're considered significant as well as verifying the information. I haven't seen the film, so I can't speak to any errors in the plot summary itself. As far as I'm concerned you're welcome to edit that, bearing WP:FILMPLOT in mind. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 14:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for creating Lancelot Skynner. If I might make a couple of points, however; threedecks.org is a vaguely useful starting point for research, but it takes all its information from other sources, is run by amateurs, and is more than occasionally incorrect or incomplete in its information. Morethannelson, on the other hand, is usually reliable in what it says, but is almost entirely unsourced (having spoken to the creator, a lot of it is old work that he never recorded the sources of). If you want to produce work a little more accurately I suggest taking a look at sources such as: Thanks, Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC) ... well ... all the info seems to tally... personally I find most of the RN research reliable--Stephencdickson (talk) 22:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * I see looking through other articles that use Patrick's People as a source, they they do not always cite Wikipedia, however, many of them cite Hew Scott and Family Search. Family Search is also unreliable because it's largely user generated (see WP:RSP). And rather than citing Patrick's People, any information sourced from Scott could just be cited to him. Patrick's People seems like a helpful way to find sources, but it doesn't appear to be a reliable source itself. Best, <span style="background: linear-gradient(gray, #111111); color: white; font-family: Times New Roman, Georgia;">Politanvm talk 21:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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Stephen, please stop using 'liquisearch'. This is, again, a very clearly identified copy of our articles. If you've evaluated a reference and it notes "Source: Wikipedia", that should probably conclude your evaluation. Additionally, if you see me constantly removing the same source from your articles with the edit summary "rmv reference to clearly identified wikipedia mirror per WP:CIRCULAR", we can probably avoid this discussion. Thanks. Sam Kuru (talk) 12:04, 8 October 2022 (UTC) I do a lot of articles and never revisit to see who has removed what so a statement that "I see you constantly removing" is incorrect, and presumptious. Keep it polite. I will refrain from using this source, but please do not presume that everyone monitors your edits--Stephencdickson (talk) 14:13, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you SunDawn... However my apparent arch nemisis Melcous has moved the article to Speedy Delete, which seems a bit crazy. Melcous hounds me continuously (and others) with somewhat malicious editing and deletes... do you know how to address this. She also seems highly bigoted in relation to several topics, and particularly makes inaccurate edits on articles on the Scottish church and politics--Stephencdickson (talk) 11:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC) This has been tweaked but I do not understand... Edward Hunt (Surveyor of the Navy) jumps to Speedy Delete BUT the article itself seems to have jumped to Edward Hunt (shipbuilder)--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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The findagrave article provides a photo which is clearly the right person and right place and it accords with his residence... I agree findagrave is not always reliable but this one looks correct--Stephencdickson (talk) 19:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying that it's wrong, or even that it needs to be removed - it's more a general note, that I would always pass on to authors who are using unreliable sources. It's a matter of sourcing philosophy, I suppose: as encyclopedia editors, we should not be engaging in the process of evaluating primary sources (in other words, checking to see whether the photographs look legit), we should restrict ourselves to what we can say authoratitively, based on reliable published sources. Your content is almost certainly accurate; on the other hand, I have seen cases where intentionally fabricated images have been uploaded to third party websites specifically to introduce falsehoods into Wikipedia articles. Our sourcing guidelines can be a pain in the proverbial for good-faith contributors like yourself, but they exist for a reason. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  00:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

As a grave enthusiast I try to personally visit graves to verify, but this is not always easy--Stephencdickson (talk) 21:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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Charles Kincaid Mackenzie
Hi. I see that you started the article for Charles Kincaid Mackenzie. He wrote for the DNB 3rd supplement and we recently created an author page for him at English Wikisource, s:Author:Charles Kincaid MackenzieS. I transcribed his obituary from the The Scotsman if you are interested in incorporating that information into the article. Thanks if you can. — billinghurst  sDrewth  19:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok I will try to take a look--Stephencdickson (talk) 23:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for adding the picture of the grave of the Sri Lankan Medical Corps' private grave in Edinburgh
As someone of Sri Lankan descent and who had family serve in the Armed Forces during the British era, I am always happy to see more imagery relating to that history which in my experience has been hard to come by.

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