Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics/Archive 11

Canadian Dime - Error re 1967 Composition?
As of 31 Jan. 2013, I think that there is an error in the current Wikipedia entry for the Canadian dime ("Dime (Canadian Coin)"), with respect to the composition of the 1967 Canadian dime. This is the Canadian Centennial dime with a mackerel on the reverse.

The table states that the 1967 Canadian dime was minted with two compositions -- 80% silver, 20% copper and 50% silver, 50% copper. The Royal Canadian Mint web site states that all Canadian dimes from 1920 to 1967 were 80% silver, 20% copper. (accessed 31 Jan. 2013).

It is true that the 1967 Canadian quarter was made in two compositions, but apparently not the dime. 010114692a (talk) 16:01, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I have started deleting
red link names from the List of medallists article. SInce that is about 2/3 of the article I have limited myself to (1) artists from the United States, since I am more familiar with them, or (2) to artists who have no dates or references or anything after the name. I will also probably start some stubs just so that i don't seem like a total vandal. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 22:37, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, if I were you, whom I'm definitely not, I'd restored the info deleted and unlinked that which disturbs you, after all this is a free encyclopedia and nobody can tell you what to do, right ? Some would call it "common sense", yes, I guess that's the word. Krenakarore TK 14:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you willing to assure me that all the red linked medalists are in fact notable medalists? Or medalists at all? If you feel that they belong anyway, regardless of who the names might be, it's a free encyclopedia, put them back. And, as sort of a side note,  to me, "common sense" is one of the 27 words or phrases that mean in my opinion. Carptrash (talk) 16:16, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Your words reflect to me who you are. It's not what you say, it's how. I just called your attention to something that might have not struck your head. That's right, there are many who might not be considered notable at all. I just said you can do whatever. Common sense implies in not being regarded as dumb by the others once you know they know you can't deny the obvious. Krenakarore  TK 19:59, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Like "common sense" the word "obvious" is, to me, just another word for in my opinion because what is obvious to one person very often is not obvious at all to someone else. But I certainly do agree with you that my words reflect who I am, or at least I hope that they do. Carptrash (talk) 15:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I see you got the message, that's cool, thanks. Krenakarore  TK 02:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Dutch East India Company
Hello, I'm planning on creating an article for Coinage of the Dutch East India Company and wondered if anyone might be willing to give me a hand? It's not a subject, unfortunately, that I have much expertise on, but historically useful. All best, ---Brigade Piron (talk) 10:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * See: Netherlands Indies gulden Krenakarore  TK 15:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I am familiar with the article in question, but (a) it does not cover the full scope of the topic, (b) it is only partially about the VOC occupation, most of it is about the Dutch period...---Brigade Piron (talk) 17:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Wish I had time for a real endeavor like this. Make a stub please. Best Krenakarore  TK 17:12, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Done! --Brigade Piron (talk) 13:47, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

RFC on images of currencies in "currency summary" articles
I've started an RFC at WT:NFC as to resolve a conflict in policy in the use of currency images in currency "summary" articles (and not affecting pages about specific individual denominations). I know that this issue has been discussed before but we need to correct one part of policy or another that would either allow or disallow mass use of non-free currency images. --M ASEM (t) 03:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Goldcobsset.jpg
file:Goldcobsset.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 17:25, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

List of people on United States banknotes
Any reviews of this FLC would be appreciated. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 17:38, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thousand-drams.jpg
image:Thousand-drams.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 16:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Sri Lankan notes
A large number of Sri Lankan banknotes are up for deletion, see Files_for_deletion/2013_April_21 -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 00:30, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Dolley madison obverse.gif
File:Dolley madison obverse.gif has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 01:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Sri Lankan coins
A large number of Sri Lankan coin images are up for deletion, see Possibly_unfree_files/2013_April_26 -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 23:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Lavalette gold 25.jpg
File:Lavalette gold 25.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:28, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

1938WoodenNickelNorthwestTerritory150thCelebration.jpg
file:1938WoodenNickelNorthwestTerritory150thCelebration.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

File:1852 $1 US Liberty Head Gold Piece (New Orleans).jpg
File:1852 $1 US Liberty Head Gold Piece (New Orleans).jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Vijaya Bahu IV - One massa.png
File:Vijaya Bahu IV - One massa.png has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Sahasamalla - One massa.png
File:Sahasamalla - One massa.png has been nominated for deletion -- `65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Lilavati - One massa.png
File:Lilavati - One massa.png has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:47, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Dharmasoka Deva - One massa.png
File:Dharmasoka Deva - One massa.png has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:52, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Bhuvanaika Bahu - One massa.png
File:Bhuvanaika Bahu - One massa.png has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 06:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Banknote with Loul Deng.jpg
File:Banknote with Loul Deng.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 06:57, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Picture request
Hello, I'm looking for a decent picture of a silver 1 Franc coin of Leopold I (preferably dated 1833) for infobox of the article on the Belgian franc. Does anyone have one they can add? --Brigade Piron (talk) 13:48, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, you can contact User:Johann Wolfgang, one of the creators and mainteneurs of this WikiProject. His last edit dates from 2 January 2013, or you can also try Google Images and request permission. The same for Ebay, although I think you won't find such specific item there. Another thing would be to visit a numismatics shop and ask permission to photograph one coin both sides. Best Krenakarore  TK 17:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Israeli money up for deletion
have been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:13, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * File:50 Shekel New Bill Front.png
 * File:50 Shekel New Bill Back.png
 * File:200 Shekel New Bill Front.png
 * File:200 Shekel New Bill Back.png

u currency sign
I'm working on MediCinema and an article mentioned a dontation of u410,000, but I'm unable to find the "u" currency symbol definition. Do you know what it means? Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk ) 19:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * In a subsequent article the currency sign (for nearly the same amount of money) was ₤, so maybe the u was a typo. Since it was regarding a donation by The Royal British Legion, ₤ makes sense.--CaroleHenson (talk ) 19:39, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's right..........:) ! Krenakarore  TK 20:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Spanish peseta
I find it odd that the article for the old Spanish currency was moved to Peseta. For consistency purposes shouldn't all currencies be named with the country? 80.42.113.224 (talk) 08:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * No. Favonian is right. Read WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Krenakarore  TK 20:29, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

File:100,000 Lebanese Pound Banknote.jpg
File:100,000 Lebanese Pound Banknote.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 01:55, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

File:PKR 5000 Back.jpg
File:PKR 5000 Back.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Clara Gonzaga.jpg
file:Clara Gonzaga.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:26, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Albanian coins
A large number of Albanian coins are up for deletion, see Possibly unfree files/2013 June 28 -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Banknote.jpg
image:Banknote.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 06:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Irl 9shillingPO.png
image:Irl 9shillingPO.png has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Libyan money up for deletion
These bills have been nominated for deletion at WP:PUF -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 06:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Color and currency
Hi. Sorry I didn't drop a note here when I changed the project-page's background color (per MOS:COLOUR and MOS:ACCESS). The new light-grey/silver (#c0c0c0) that ‎Krenakarore chose is a bit better than the old darker-grey/silver (#848482). I was primarily changing it for general accessibility (people with poor eyesight, who strain when there is a low contrast between the text-color and background-color), but for future reference the Wikiline tool is quite good for approximating the different forms of color-blindness.

Just FYI, I was originally at the page because I was looking/checking for background details, in regards to answering this question: WP:VPI#Currency Converter - Possibly someone here can improve on, or correct, my explanation. Thanks :) –Quiddity (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is for everyone... and maybe we change the color again someday. You're welcome...:) ! Krenakarore  TK 06:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Absolutely... neat is good ! Krenakarore  TK 09:02, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

1000TRLira.jpg
image:1000TRLira.jpg is up for review at NFCR, see WP:NFCR -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:42, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Capped Bust
I created this stub, though the page can be moved if the article name is incorrect. There was inconsistency with the U.S. coinage nabox: Barber coinage vs. Draped bust; Draped Bust dollar vs. Draped bust, etc. Congrats on Barber coinage making TFA! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:16, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

2 euro coin from 2007 reverse.jpg
image:2 euro coin from 2007 reverse.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 06:04, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It has been moved to commons -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:51, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Fiji2Dollar2012.jpg
image:Fiji2Dollar2012.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Eisenhower Dollar.png
has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 07:19, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

€2 Portugal 2011 - Pinto.png
image:€2 Portugal 2011 - Pinto.png has been nominated for deletion and NFCC review, see Possibly_unfree_files/2013_September_10 and WP:NFCR -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 05:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Lof Der Zotheid 500jr Munt 2011.png
image:Lof Der Zotheid 500jr Munt 2011.png has been nominated for deletion and NFCC review, see Possibly_unfree_files/2013_September_10 and WP:NFCR -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 05:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Ecuador'a 20S Banknote, Anverse, Reverse 1240px.jpg
image:Ecuador'a 20S Banknote, Anverse, Reverse 1240px.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 11:34, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Fractional currency
Has been nominated for FLC. Any reviews would be welcome.-Godot13 (talk) 03:01, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Same with List of currencies in Europe. Mat  ty  .  007  15:58, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Bank of Canada 50 dollar 1954.jpg
image:Bank of Canada 50 dollar 1954.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 06:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

IP edits on ISO 4217
Can you check out the recent edits by 216.113.168.148 (talk) changing the exponent value for USD in ISO 4217. The first change seemed unlikely to me and had what seemed to be a lame edit summary, so I reverted it. The second change modified not only USD but also the BDT (Bangladesh taka), and seems even more unlikely, but I hesitate getting in on an edit war about something I only think is unreasonable. Maybe someone here knows more? YBG (talk) 04:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Middleham Hoard
Hi all, PatHadley (talk) here. I'm the Wikipedian-in-Residence at York Museums Trust (Project pages. I've been working with the numismatics curators on an upload of images of coins from the Middleham Hoard. The whole set can be found here: Category:Coins from the Middleham Hoard (23 out of 54 so far), I hope that they're useful for Numismatics articles! Unfortunately the hoard itself is lacking an article. I've just started the bones here: Articles for creation/Middleham Hoard and it would be great if you guys could help the curators (new editors) and myself get the article ready for submission. Also, if there are any ways in which we could help you achieve your goals for numismatics coverage on Wikipedia that would be great. You can find out a little about the collection on the blog and contact me with any queries. Look forward to working with you! PatHadley (talk) 15:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Update - All the coins are now uploaded! Category:Coins from the Middleham Hoard Enjoy! PatHadley (talk) 12:48, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you in a position to send copies of more recent articles on the hoard? The ones you list at the AfC are from 1994 and 1995.  I can help, but I need materials to work from.  Links, or emails, would work.  You can't send attachments through the Wikipedia email system, but I can send you an email if you have "e-mail this user" activated, which I imagine you do, given your role as a Wikipedian-in-residence.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Wehwalt, yes! you can definitely email me. My official address here is: patrick.hadley@ymt.org.uk. Thanks for responding - I hope we can get this (and other) articles created and improved. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of there being much in the way of more recent analysis of the Middleham Hoard as it was separated and (mostly) sold after the initial papers were written. I have linked to the two key papers already from the AFC start. There is a short paper on Civil War hoards here. I have contacted the numismatic curator to find out what else might be available. Looking forward to getting stuck into this! Cheers PatHadley (talk) 10:52, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Update - I was right, there are unfortunately not any more recent articles on the hoard. However, there is a book: A Little Barrel of Ducatoons (on Amazon) which a numismatics volunteer is currently using to write a blog-post. This will also incorporate her observations made while doing the digital photography. Hopefully, this will bring on some new observations (I'm particularly intrigued by the forgeries!). Cheers PatHadley (talk) 15:58, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I haven't forgotten this. I will be home in a week or so and will look at it more then.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:39, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you PatHadley for this astounding work and thank you sysop Wehwalt for being present here. Krenakarore TK 18:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, though I rarely use the administrative tools around here, or at all actually. I guess I just hang around this Wikiproject, though I do wish we had more people involved. Anyway, I intend to set aside some time this spring to polish the article.  I'll probably order a copy of that pamphlet from amazon.co.uk.  But right now, RL issues are very much interfering with my getting work done.  So it will have to wait a bit.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:09, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have scanned the booklet if you'd like to be emailed a copy? It's in a bit of a copyright grey area but if you were to use it for the article or other hoard articles that would be fantastic! Thanks PatHadley (talk) 11:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do. Send me an email and I will reply and then you can send an attachment.  I'll also enquire of my contacts at the American Numismatic Association library in Colorado Springs.  At this stage, I'm just gearing up and getting sources together.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update
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Saddle Ridge Hoard
This article could use some looking after, this hoard is an exciting find in the Numismatic world and is the largest ever of it's kind here in the United States. I expect there to be further information in the upcoming issue of Coin World. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:46, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll watchlist it but due to RL issues I'm not writing right now. I didn't see anything in the email for the current issue perhaps the next.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yup it is in this week's issue of coin world. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Austria Silver Vienna Philharmonic
If anyone has noticed this article, Euro_gold_and_silver_commemorative_coins_(Austria), its contents are disorganized and very outdated. I've attempted to create a new article for the silver bullion coin (which is no longer a commemorative coin) and can be found here:. The coin sold more than 41 million units over a 3-year stretch and similar articles exist such as the Chinese Silver Panda and American Silver Eagle. I believe notability was not the problem but apparently the context was. In fact the article for the Silver Panda coin is not much better in regards to context and even has no sources properly cited. I find it hard to believe that a person reading either article would have no idea what the context of it was in either case. I was wondering if a more experienced editor with knowledge in numismatics could help get the declined article's context a bit more clear so that it can get up and going. That way, other writers may expand upon on it and get it up to similar status as the articles for Silver Eagles, Silver Pandas, and other noteworthy silver bullion coins. Zup326 (talk) 19:26, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd like to help but I don't have time to assist with writing right now. The main problem with your submission is that it is too short.  If you were able to write a few sourced paragraphs about how the coin came to be, I think it would be accepted.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:36, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Disregard the editor that declined your submission. He's been the center of some scrutiny recently. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 23:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * In all fairness and reason, being too short is an unsound reason to decline an article. There are millions of stub articles -- many related to numismatics. I've created articles before with little more than a single sentence to get the ball rolling. There was never this submission system in the past so I'm not too familiar with how the submission process works as of yet. I do feel that if shortness has suddenly become a criteria as to whether an article should exist or not, then there are presently millions of articles which need deleting. Why have people edit and contribute when an article apparently needs to be fully written before inclusion? Zup326 (talk) 22:37, 9 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Chris how can I go about ignoring his decline notice and get the article submitted? Is it possible to delete his notice and simply begin the article? I've added a few paragraphs about the design history as as well as the obverse and reserve. Zup326 (talk) 17:14, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Simply resubmit the article.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:14, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, resubmit as Wehwalt suggests. Feel free to notify me on my talk page and I'll review it. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 04:48, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wehwalt and Chris. Your help and concern is appreciated. Zup326 (talk) 17:14, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Numismatics and Electronic money
I've started a discussion about Numismatics relationship to 'Electronic money' on the Numismatics template talk page.

BTW - the Article alerts and Project Statistics overlap on my browser (Seamonkey) - making it hard to read. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Table in List of circulating currencies needs fixing
Parts of the table in List of circulating currencies are pure nonsense in their present form. Please see the Talk page there. --Thnidu (talk) 06:27, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Currencies generally
Zloty (Tintin) came up at WP:RFD because of a redirect. Having done my research I looked at a lot of European currencies and they seem to have a lot of inconsistencies in how they are named and redirected. I am no expert I am just short of money. But some have the name of the country, some don't, some like why does schilling redirect to Austrian schilling whereas shilling has its own article, guilder you would expect to go to Dutch guilder but doesn't, and it's a right old mess. Kenyan shilling existed but is not listed on the DAB, half-crown I am not sure. Krona is rightly a DAB but should have crown (British coin) listed on it. It's a mess, as both I an another editor said on RfD,, which is why I bring it here. What to do about it? I looked up WP:CURRENCY but it doesn't have much advice as far as titles for articles go, but I don't see why it has to be at Polish zloty instead of just zloty, the redirect, and is not properly hatnoted from either. Forint redirects to Hungarian forint. It is not as if there is any other country that calls it "forint", although it is probably from Florin, which then links to Dutch guilder for fairly obvious reasons. Why make it the longer way around? What is the policy here? Si Trew (talk) 19:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * We follow WP:MOSPN, as there is no special policy here. To be candid, most of these articles were created ten years ago and without a common plan and there are inconstancies, and we don't have enough people to go around and fix them.  I'm usually busy with US coins and rarely deal with other countries' currencies.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:36, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I think, then, maybe we should make attempt to make one at MoS. I am not a great fan of rules but the purpose is solely to help readers to find what they are looking for.
 * As an aside, my wife works in a retail bank and we collected all the specially minted Olympic coins for the London 2012 Olympics in about a couple of months – they are not what's it called "mint"? but the whole point of it was to collect them in circulation, like the U.S. five cent coins with each state on them some ten years ago, when I lived in the U.S. She had to go through thousands and thousands of 50p pieces to collect them all. I mounted them in a frame and gave them to my mum, who likes to collect coins – nothing valuable but likes to collect them just for the history really. Si Trew (talk) 09:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Pictures of coins and copy right
Hello,

I have made some pictures of Dutch pocket change I want to use for articles and I was wondering if these images fall under some sort of copyright. I noticed some other images that claim they are own work but I am unsure if this is correct. Pindanl (talk) 11:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * If there are no illustrations of them in the appropriate articles, they are most likely copyrighted, given we are 12 years on from E-day. I know there was a major deletion discussion at Commons a few years back.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not talking about Euro’s but Guilder change. Does that make a difference as they are no longer in circulation? I photographed the following coins:
 * One cent coin 1948 and 1952
 * Five cent coin 1948, 1975 and 2000
 * Ten cent coin 1948, 1950 and 2000
 * Twenty-five cent 1948, 1955 and 2000 Pindanl (talk) 14:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Here are the rules for Netherlands copyright. They qualify as work of the Dutch government and are PD unless they reserved the rights (I do not know if they did).  None of them qualify as PD as 70 years past the death of the creator of the design as all of these coins (according to my Standard Catalog of World Coins were first issued 1948 or later, and so we are not quite there yet.  I'd upload them.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:58, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks for the information. I uploaded them and placed them in the articles. Pindanl (talk) 20:33, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. Let me know if they try deleting them.  Best to leave a note on my talk.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:20, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge for 1 cent (Dutch coin) and One cent coin (Netherlands)
An article that you have been involved in editing, 1 cent (Dutch coin), has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — JFG talk 03:46, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Numismatics At Wikimania 2014
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Swiss francs
In both the Helvetia and Coins of the Swiss franc articles, the portrait side of the coin is being referred to as the reverse of the coinage, and the denomination side is called the obverse. The uploaded photos are by and large organized similarly (the "range of Swiss coins" photo in the coin article displays the denomination of the coin, not the portrait). Is this a peculiarity (seeing as how there is some confusion with euros as to which is which) or is there a systematic mistake in terminology in these articles? MSJapan (talk) 22:15, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no idea you might want to check when and by whom it was done. I have a book on Swiss coins but am presently away from home. We don't have a lot of people active in this project.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

1889 Dictionary of Roman Coins
Check out the 738 illustrations of the 1889 Dictionary of Roman Coins, Republican and Imperial, which I uploaded to Commons: commons:Category:A Dictionary of Roman Coins. :) trespassers william (talk) 22:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

A question on sources
Hi all, I'm writing the article on the Austro-Hungarian cruiser SMS Sankt Georg, and am having trouble digging up a reliable source to cover the commemorative coin that was struck for the ship - unfortunately it doesn't appear to be listed anymore on the Austrian mint website. Does anyone have any pointers on a website that passes the RS bar? I figured asking here would be faster than trying to wade through google hits ;) Parsecboy (talk) 12:09, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Not online but it should be in Krause's Standard Catalog of World Coins. A coin dealer may have it.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:15, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I had wondered if I ought to post directly on your talk page ;) There are apparently copies in a couple of my local libraries - do you have any ideas beyond digging through the stacks? Is there an index somewhere that would point me in the right direction? Thanks again. Parsecboy (talk) 20:14, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think it matters where you post, it's mostly just me here. What year is the coin?  The catalog is alphabetical by country and then in increasing order of face value (so for euro coins it would list the 1 cent, 2 cent, 5 cent).  I'm away from home at present and only buy a copy every four or five years.  Go into a coin store if there's one near you and sneak a look to see what page it's on? The catalog is an annual, so the copies in the library may not have the coin if it is recent.  There are also European references but as they are mostly not in English, I don't bother much for them, but collecting euro coins is popular. amazon.de might have details.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:12, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I didn't know if there were any other active editors in the field. The coin is from the 2005 series - I just checked the OSU-specific version of Worldcat and it looks like they only have editions from the 80s and 90s. I'll see what coin stores I can track down, though I won't have time to actually run by one until weekend after next at the earliest. Parsecboy (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

FLC
Hi, please can someone take a look at this FLC? I don't have a massive desire to fail three times. Thanks, Mat  ty. 007 16:28, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Featured list nomination for List of Knights Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order appointed by Queen Victoria
Hello all. Just to let you know, I've nominated this article for featured list status. The nomination page is here - any input or reviews would be much appreciated. Many thanks, --Noswall59 (talk) 20:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC).

Pre-decimal coinage
Hi all, I've recently been revising articles relating to pre-decimal British coinage, but I noticed an inconsistency. Some denominations (e.g. penny) have separate articles for the pre-1707 English coin and the post-1707 British coin, while others (e.g. threepence, sixpence) do not. Before splitting or merging any articles I would welcome any thoughts or opinions on which is the better solution. Retroplum (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't like these kind of denomination articles. Honestly who considers that a penny of Henry II has any similarity to a penny of George VI just because of the denominations? Personally, I'd support the creation of a series of sequential articles with titles like "History of British coinage (1900-1976)" or "Medieval British coinage"...—Brigade Piron (talk) 14:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Well if you can write up a preliminary page, we can then comment on its effectiveness. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 21:49, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

CISCoins site?
An issue with which Wikiproject Numismatics members might be concerned has been brought up at. Your input is welcome. —&#91; Alan  M  1 (talk) &#93;— 09:33, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

List of circulating currencies
The list of circulating currencies now sorts properly when sorted by name of currency. Previously, e.g., "Thai baht" sorted under T; now it sorts under B. See the Talk page there under Sorting the table by "Currency".

If you would like to discuss this with me, please me. Thnidu (talk) 07:29, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

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Ghana pound and Cedi merger
There is proposal to merge the pound with the Ghana Cedi, I disagree with this as it is too confusing. Please comment on the page. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 21:37, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

The articles should be retitled to Ghanaian pound and Ghanaian cedi. - (202.89.141.109 (talk) 02:54, 15 January 2015 (UTC))

Zimbabwean Bond Coins.
Check this out;.

A new article for the Zimbabwean Bond Coins needs to be created, as these will be in circulation from 18 December 2014. - (202.89.141.109 (talk) 22:57, 6 December 2014 (UTC))


 * I've just created it. To discuss this with me, please me. Thnidu (talk) 21:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Please post a numismatic notice on the talk page of Zimbabwean Bond Coins, and upload some photos of both sides of the coins. - (202.89.141.109 (talk) 02:54, 15 January 2015 (UTC))


 * Just pinging .--Wehwalt (talk) 11:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

The status of private bank credit/dept and the money supply.
There is not law that grants private bank generated credit/debt the status of legal tender.

Private bank generated credit/debt does not expand the legal tender money supply.

From the Fed: "Credit dollars are a debt generated currency that is denominated by a unit of account. Unlike money, credit itself cannot act as a unit of account. However, many forms of credit can readily act as a medium of exchange. As such, various forms of credit are frequently referred to as money and are included in estimates of the money supply."

Why does Wikipedia propagate the false notion that credit/debt is money?

72.64.126.42 (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I think possibly you should ask at a Wikiproject devoted to economics. Remember, legal tender is what people must accept, they are of course free to accept forms of payment that are not a legal tender.  I've seen people get "paid" in cases of liquor.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Cryptocurency task force
I would be very happy to create and manage a cryptocurrency task force as it is a growing market and needs attention on wikipedia TheMagikCow (talk) 07:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. We have so few people here just be bold.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Outdated articles
Many articles regarding the national variants of the euro coins (e.g. Belgian euro coins, German euro coins) are currently desperately outdated regarding the included mintage figures and some even regarding the current designs (e.g. Spanish euro coins). An urgent updated is really required for these articles. Tvx1 (talk) 19:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Heritage Auctions
What happened to all the useful content that used to be here, particularly relating to lawsuits? Methinks somebody has paid for a cleanup. I am a coin dealer and rather than speaking my mind when someone asked what I thought of this litigious firm, all I had to do was send them to Wikipedia as this firm's REPUTATION, which is well known to many in the numismatic hobby and collectibles hobby generally, was adequately hinted at here. You are doing a disservice to many by allowing the former content to have been removed, and now rating it as a "low priority". This stinks. Badly. I don't know whether to log in or not for greater anonymity.24.22.156.244 (talk) 20:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC) so that's a signature? I would like to know the real names of people working in this Numismatics project before considering aiding the effort or speaking further on a SENSITIVE topic.


 * Can you point to where information used to be that is not there now? Nothing has come to my attention but I don't monitor articles I haven't worked on. You can register for an account, and you'll have a signature like mine or fancier if you like. As for my real name, it's not terribly secret, you can probably figure it out fairly quickly through google searches. I simply choose not to use it on here.  I have no connection with any dealer.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:06, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * At a guess, I would say the complainant might be referring to this edit to Heritage Auctions? PatHadley (talk) 22:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * More than likely. First of all, we don't run the coin articles, this is a board to coordinate article improvement and to discuss matters of concern in numismatics.  Second, it doesn't involve a coin, though Heritage certainly sells them. I would say it's something for editors who choose to interest themselves in that article to decide, like any article on Wikipedia.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:27, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Create and populate Category:Coins by composition
I just created Category:Copper coins and Category:Bronze coins. Looking at commons:Category:Coins by composition, we have quite a few categories to create and populate; replicating the Commons category here seems like a valid idea, but I am not a numismatic expert - I'll leave it to the project members to continue this. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 00:57, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of adding it to any article I write or work with that suits, but regrettably I don't have much time to work on this. It seems relatively simple if you want to continue with it. You don't have to be an expert to know what coins are made of.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:06, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

"Eagle" capitalisation
Most of the 'eagle' coin articles use capital E for Eagle, but there are some exceptions, such as Indian Head eagle, Turban Head eagle, Quarter eagle. I see this was dscussed last year, but with no clear resolution. Is there any consensus on capitalisation for these coins? Colonies Chris (talk) 09:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Denominations are usually not capitalised. However, due to pressure of other work, it is the sort of thing that doesn't get changed until a project member starts improving the article. "cent", "dollar", and "eagle" are not capitalised in almost all of the FA class articles that this project has improved (about fifty or so, I think).--Wehwalt (talk) 12:10, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Exchange rate
Hello, I need the exchange rate of 1 Piece of eight/Spanish peso (1825) to the USD (2015) for an article. I have read that it was 1/1, but that can't possibly be the case, since the average wage was around 25 pesos per year and the richest aristocrat only made 80,000 per year, which I suspect would translate to a few hundred millions in modern dollars. 208.54.44.245 (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I have read other sources stating that 1 pound = 1 peso. And according to this article:


 * 3,000,000 (2008) USD = 15,000 (1710s) P
 * or
 * 200 (2008) USD = 1 (1710s) P


 * Is that true? And was the rate the same in 1825? At the very least it is clear that the actual value was much more than the current price of silver. 208.54.44.245 (talk) 03:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be so slow. Until 1857, the Spanish colonial real was the usual circulating medium in the U.S.  That is what you would spend, and likely get back in change.  Most U.S. silver coins were profitably exported, until 1853, and were rarely seen in commerce. Since the U.S. dollar was modeled on the Spanish 8 reals piece (sometimes called a peso, then) there is some truth to what you say.  The U.S. dollar probably would have gotten a premium, because it would have been, in practice, heavier as the Spanish coins would almost certainly have been worn, and they would have been concerned about the amount of silver in the coins.  A lot of the U.S. coins that were exported circulated in Latin America, actually.  But my opinion is that there's no really good shorthand way of translating prices from one era to another so far apart.  In 1825, a middle class family might have had several servants, or even slaves, as far north as New York.  What we spend money on, how we get it, and its very character (none of us have lived in an era when a bank might refuse to give you a gold coin for an equal face value in silver, assuming both were circulating at the time) have changed so much that I don't think a general answer is possible. You might want to post at one of the economics talk pages for more specialized help--Wehwalt (talk) 12:56, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

A new project with the Yorkshire Museum's numismatics collections
Hi all, I've just had a fantastic offer from the numismatics curator at the Yorkshire Museum (Andrew Woods - YMT Coins not very active on Wikipedia). You can already see some of the Museum's Numismatics collections in this Commons Category and there's more free-to-use imagery on the Online Collection. However, as the quality of the existing collections imagery varies (as it does on Wikipedia), Andrew is suggesting taking a new run of high-quality photographs specifically for Wikipedia. His idea is to target articles of rulers (Kings, Queens, Emperors) that currently lack a decent coin portrait. The Museum's collection covers Roman and British Isles currencies very well. Are there existing lists of such articles or would one of you like to create one? Ideally, this might be the first step in creating a lasting partnership. you created great content for Middleham Hoard - perhaps you'd like to have first refusal on this? What do people think generally? Cheers, PatHadley (talk) 10:31, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Pat, sounds like a fantastic offer, and targeting royal portraits does sound like an interesting approach, with scope for some new list articles as well as being of use in existing articles. I don't have the time to engage in a partnership  with the museum, but would certainly be willing to help out where I can, both here and on Commons. BabelStone (talk) 12:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi BabelStone, no problem! Glad you like the idea. Thanks for offering your time - much appreciated! You might also be interested to note that the images in the Archaeology collections of York Museums Trust have grown in number and quality recently. Cheers, PatHadley (talk) 12:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * In the Middle Ages period, editors such as, who have worked so extensively and well in that field, may have an interest. Thanks for the generous offer. I could, by the way, use images of a pre-1888 Maundy money twopence (dated between 1821 and 1887), and I see the museum has some in its collection. This would be for the article Royal Maundy, which would likely fit your category. Would it be possible to have images of the one in best condition?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:48, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Breezing through the Roman emperors we have a coin portrait on every one up to Maximinus II who doesn't have one. We are also missing Constans and Theodosius I. That's it up till 395 at least. Chuy1530 (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Excellent! Just looking through those three, they each have a 'Coins of xxx' category on Commons (Maximinus II, Constans, Theodosius I). However, the quality of these is not that high. There are lots of images through the glass of museum cabinets and some decent but small (sub 50KB) images from the Classical Numismatics Group. The example to the right shows the standard we'd hope to hit with YMT's images (click through for the metadata). I'm guessing that images of that quality would be useful on more than just the 3 emperors listed above? PatHadley (talk) 09:35, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Question, pre-2003 notes
I've just asked about this on the Series (United States currency) talk page. Repeating it here, in hopes someone can answer:

"I keep seeing mention of bills dated before 2003 not being accepted outside the USA. I've not found anything official on this. If anyone knows more, please add that information to this article! Thanks,"

Hordaland (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Castine Hoard
I just recently made an article regarding the famous American Castine Hoard. If anyone has any books on the matter feel free to contribute. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Archived old threads
I've archived some old threads.

Specifically those that were more than one (1) year old.

And those that were about discussions that had since closed, for example notices for people to come to featured-content-discussions where the page was already later promoted/archived, etc.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Infobox for proposed currencies?
I have been quickly going over Khaleeji (currency) to help improve it, and was considering adding an infobox to help summarise its main proposed features (and possibly some sort of timeline). Before I added a less appropriate template, I wanted to check if there was an infobox specifically for proposed currencies, or if Infobox currency would still be the most appropriate. I couldn't find anything on either North American monetary union (for the "Amero") or Eco (currency). Thank you — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 10:00, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Notaphily
I work on some philatelic article and this happend to be on my watchlist. As one of your topics without any references, maybe someone could give it some TLC and add some inline citations. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Israel
Discussion here about correcting the placement of the article on the Israeli pound, per its name and that used by the Bank of Israel. — Llywelyn II   06:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Template:Coinage (United States)
Could someone look at the edits that has made to Template:Coinage (United States) in these edits. It appears that many items such as 1804 dollar have been removed from the template and remain curiously included on the pages for various subjects without regard to the most recent edits.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Euro gold and silver commemorative coins
Virtually all articles on Euro gold and silver commemorative coins are outdated - many haven't been updated since 2009 or so. I'll try to update Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Malta), but there are many more articles which should be updated. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Portuguese Indio
Hi all. While not a numismatist myself, I was interested in some recent news about the Esmeralda (carrack) shipwreck. So I created Indio (coin) and tried to describe the coin there. I will be updating the Esmeralda page shortly with some recent news. Would appreciate it if the Wikipedia community would "ruthlessly edit" the coin page to improve its quality. Iowajason (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

AfD
There is a current AfD on ShapeShift (company), at Articles for deletion/ShapeShift (company). More input from community editors would be appreciated. N2e (talk) 18:05, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

USPS image use as with currency
At Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 66, an interesting discussion among TheVirginianHistorian, Masem, Hammersoft and Seraphimblade on the use of USPS non-free images, whether they should be treated with the same NFCC exemption as currency, or whether each stamp should be included only if it is treated as critically acclaimed exemplar of the fine arts, before inclusion in topical stamp articles such as Puerto Rico on stamps. Apparently some believe Currency images should no longer get a blanket pass at NFCC, and they must be restricted in some way to meet goals of few non-free images at WP. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 01:12, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Spanish coins
, currently a redirect to Category:Coins of Spain has been nominated at RfD. Your comments on the discussion would be particularly welcome. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 20:45, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk: Non-free content
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk: Non-free content. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 06:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Re: Early United States commemorative coins
This page is quite a mess, but I tried to do a little organizing and linking to improve the list. I also created a bunch of redirects, which I hope project members will consider expanding:
 * Maine Centennial half dollar Expanded!
 * Missouri Centennial half dollar STUB
 * Grant Memorial half dollar STUB
 * Fort Vancouver Centennial half dollar
 * Sesquicentennial of American Independence half dollar
 * Vermont Sesquicentennial half dollar STUB
 * Maryland Tercentenary half dollar STUB
 * Daniel Boone Bicentennial half dollar / Daniel Boone half dollar
 * Connecticut Tercentenary half dollar STUB
 * Arkansas Centennial half dollar STUB
 * Arkansas-Robinson half dollar STUB
 * Hudson, New York Sesquicentennial half dollar
 * San Diego, California Pacific Exposition half dollar
 * California Pacific International Exposition half dollar
 * Old Spanish Trail half dollar
 * Rhode Island Tercentenary half dollar
 * Wisconsin Territorial Centennial half dollar
 * Long Island Tercentenary half dollar
 * York County, Maine Tercentenary half dollar
 * Lynchburg, Virginia Sesquicentennial half dollar / Lynchburg Sesquicentennial half dollar
 * Albany, New York Charter half dollar
 * San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge half dollar
 * Columbia, South Carolina Sesquicentennial half dollar
 * Delaware Tercentenary half dollar
 * Battle of Gettysburg half dollar
 * Norfolk, Virginia Bicentennial half dollar
 * Battle of Antietam half dollar
 * Iowa Centennial half dollar
 * Booker T. Washington Memorial half dollar
 * Panama–Pacific International Exposition dollar
 * Grant Memorial dollar

All are welcome to make sure these redirects are appropriately titled, or even expand them into stubs. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:45, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Template talk:Exchange rate
There is a current talk about exchange rate template, could you give your opinion to which sites should this template link, there is a lack of experienced users on this page.Mascarponette (talk) 12:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

MOS:PRESENT
I notice that various numismatics articles are written contrary to MOS:PRESENT. We have "The gold dollar or gold one-dollar piece was a coin struck as a regular issue by ..." and "The Buffalo nickel or Indian Head nickel was a copper-nickel five-cent piece struck by ..." and "The Lewis and Clark Exposition dollar was a commemorative gold coin struck in 1904 and 1905 as part of ..." But the gold dollar never stopped being a coin, and the Buffalo nickel never stopped being a five-cent piece. I don't see any discussion of this in the talk page archives. Any thoughts on that? —BarrelProof (talk) 01:14, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Bank of New York Hoard
I just recently created this interesting article about a huge find of Fugio cents in the mid 1850s, edits are welcome! - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Article on subunit

 * Hello group, I wrote article Indian paisa (subunit of Indian rupee) which is still under construction. Infobox for "Numismatics" has only three option viz "Banknote", "Coin" and "Currency". Since we do not have a dedicated infobox for subunit, I used Coin infobox in the article. Is there any rule, guideline that says I should not be doing it? Obviously the infobox adds value and "quick reference" to the article. Your thoughts please. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk)  08:34, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I see the infobox has been removed. Other subunit articles I've seen, such as cent (currency) or centavo, do not use an infobox.Karl (talk) 13:04, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Zimbabwean Bond Notes are now in circulation.
Zimbabwean Bond Notes for 2 & 5 Dollars are now in circulation in Zimbabwe since 28 November - along with a bimetallic 1 Dollar Bond Coin.

Can someone please create the Zimbabwean Bond Notes article? - (119.224.80.18 (talk) 19:36, 29 November 2016 (UTC))

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uruguay peso notes images
Hi! Can i upload the peso banknotes images to wikimedia commons? Szajci pošta 07:54, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You may do better asking at WP:MCQ. It looks to me like works of the state are copyrighted for at least 40 years but my Spanish isn't wonderful.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:37, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you! :) Zastava S. Jugoslavije.png Szajci pošta 18:57, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

400,000 photographs of archaeological objects found by members of the public in England and Wales
In recent weeks, 400,000 images of finds, logged and photographed by the Portable Antiquities Scheme, have been uploaded to Commons.

They are now ready for further categorisation on Commons, and use in Wikipedia articles.

Please see this note on Commons and the project page there. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:10, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * They look quite interesting. Regrettably I don't know much about that area of the field, but no doubt they will prove useful.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

German South West African Mark
A little work from someone with knowledge of and/or reference on the subject would be appreciated, see Talk:German South West African Mark. TIA Andrewa (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

British Currency task force
I would be interested in creating/managing a task force dedicated to British currency, would there be any objections? Tsange ☯ Talk 15:33, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to do so, and if any part of it is coin-related, I do have some references.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:12, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Zimbabwean Bond Notes.
Can someone please create the article Zimbabwean Bond Notes?

They are now the companions to the Zimbabwean Bond Coins. - (119.224.80.18 (talk) 06:35, 16 April 2017 (UTC))


 * I created a more general page about Zimbabwean bonds and suggest Zimbabwean bond coins be merged.Tsange ☯ Talk 21:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Another point however, I'm not fully sure about the exact terminology for these 'bonds'. The Zimbabwe government has stated they are not currency, despite it being used as such. Some news articles refer to it as quasi-money or pseudo-currency.Tsange ☯ Talk 21:12, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The various Interest bearing notes might be some guidance.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link. Tsange (Talk) 11:11, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

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Bust quarter
New article, apparently about US coinage, which needs a lot of help to become enyclopedic. Pam D  07:56, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Actual silver weight
I created a new little article today, Draft:Actual silver weight, although (as you can see) I kept it in draft awaiting input from others.

It's not super-notable, but:
 * the acronym ASW is often not defined in context;
 * Actual silver weight is an important concept for coin collectors and bullion coin investors, among others; and
 * we have Actual gold weight, so we shouldn't discriminate against good 'ol argentum. ;-)

The draft article is in the Afc queue - if you believe it's worth publishing now, go ahead and approve it, or offer me (and others) feedback/suggestions. Thanks! - Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)  06:24, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me, it could also help to add the formulas for working out ASW.
 * ASW in Grams = Fineness * Weight
 * ASW in Troy oz = Fineness * Gram Weight * 0.0321507466
 * Also of note is that APW exists (Actual Platinum/Paladium Weight). Tsange (Talk) 14:42, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * An external link to a (hopefully noncommercial) site that allows translation of ASW into value might be a help.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Excellent suggestions! Thank you all very much. APW is mentioned in a citation. I added info on how to calculate ASW and intrinsic value. Oh, and I went ahead and took it out of draft--the Afc backlog is almost a thousand ---> Actual silver weight. Of course, please do jump in and edit the article to make it better if you are so inclined. :O)  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)  07:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Information boxes
Please can someone who is familiar with Numismatics information boxes add the most suitable to the following articles: -- PBS (talk) 12:26, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Siege money
 * Siege money (Newark)
 * Siege of Khartoum currency

RfC at Monero (cryptocurrency)
I've opened a RfC over at Talk:Monero_(cryptocurrency)over certain editor's concern about content and souce quality. Your input would be appreciated. Thank you.  Melmann (talk) 08:46, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Simple Currency Conversion Template
Hi, I don't know if this exists yet on Wikipedia, as I have not researched it very thoroughly, but it would be quite helpful to have a template that automatically would show the actual conversion rates, instead of having to manually update each page every half a year or so, as, for example, here. I do not know how to create templates like this in Wikipedia, but I imagine it would show in text similar to this: 500 euros is worth 591.40 USD. Instead of a static edit, though, the amount, along with the time the rates were updated, would be inputted by a bot. I don't know if this is even possible with the current tools on Wikipedia, but it would certainly expedite the accuracy of articles very much. Thanks, Damibaru (talk) 03:45, 6 December 2017 (UTC)


 * There are a number of currency templates including one which converts to USD by year Template:To USD but none that use a bot that I know of. Tsange (Talk) 17:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

GDP units, Geary–Khamis dollars, and related questions
Hi. There are a few questions at Template talk:Infobox country that you might be able to help with. Thanks! Quiddity (talk) 18:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

New article - Atomic swap - Need help determining if topic is notable
Could someone help determine if this is a notable topic? I asked at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Numismatics/Cryptocurrency_task_force on 14 Jan, but there's been no response there. --Ronz (talk) 22:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I"m not too knowledgeable about such things ...--23:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

List of coins depicting the Commonwealth Games.
Has anyone thought about doing an article titled List of coins depicting the Commonwealth Games?

There is an article titled List of stamps depicting the Commonwealth Games, so the coin one would need to be done on similar lines. - (101.98.104.241 (talk) 13:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC))


 * It's actually not a bad idea, you can always register an account and make it. If there's something I've learned from watching articles only be maintained by bots a decade after they were created because the primary authors left Wikipedia (such as Sema from Art-Hanoi) It's that if you're passionate about something that you should create the articles yourself. Stubs can stay stubs for years, and bad articles can often not improve so your best choice would be to work on it yourself. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) (Sockpuppets 🎭) (Articles 📚) 08:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

RfC
138.210.2.206 (talk) 14:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC) this is a senseless deletion threat, when all that is needed is to flag the issues in contention interlaced in the article! A blanket policy deleting valuable information is absurd! Leave it be, and wait for the corrections, while the flags remain in the text!


 * Which article are you referring to? --Donald Trung (Talk) (Articles) Respect mobile users. 16:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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Numista
Greetings to this community! Article Numista has been nominated for deletion. If you're interested in the discussion regarding whether this numismatic article should stay or be deleted from Wikipedia, please leave your thoughts on the topic @Articles_for_deletion/Numista. I think future of Numismatics articles should be in hands of Numismatics community. Thanks! --AndriiKhmelkov (talk) 00:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Five dollar conundrum
Input from someone more knowledgeable than I am is welcome at Talk:Hollow Horn Bear. Basically, there are conflicting sources regarding who was depicted on a turn-of-the-century US five dollar bill, and we need to resolve the issue one way or the other pending a POTD on August 2 if possible, or we may have to pull and reschedule the POTD appearance. Thanks in advance. G M G talk  13:51, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I've replied at the talk page mentioned.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:42, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

No image of coin on the page
The Booker T. Washington Memorial half dollar page is the only US coin page I remember without an image of the coin present. Can someone maybe find one and pop it in? Thanks (I'm not good at uploads). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:00, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Could I Get Someone to Review Some Pre-Conferation Canadian Token Articles?
Hello there! I have started on a long-term project to add articles on early Canadian, pre-Conferation tokens. So far I have created the following:
 * Blacksmith tokens
 * Magdalen Island penny token
 * Bouquet sou
 * Habitant token
 * Pierre-Napoléon Breton

The first four deal with the specific token issues, and the last talks about an early Canadian numismatist (the first of a few I would like to cover). I'd appreciate someone having a look at them and providing an assessment of their quality, and any gaps that ought to be covered. Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 14:18, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Certainly, though I am not an expert on these topics, so it will be more prose and so forth. Don't expect rapid service, I am tied up in several FAC reviews.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. Am looking less for an expert on Canadian pre-confederation tokens, but someone who is familiar with the style used in other numismatic articles, and could give me tips on what areas need improving. Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 20:40, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I glanced very hastily at the Habitant article. You might want to invest some time adding ISBNs to the sources and cite the uncited matter. The fact that some final sentences in paragraphs are not cited makes me wonder about the situation when multiple sentences appear to be attributed to the source on the final sentence. That's all I have time for now. I'll comment on the various talk pages when I can.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Euro gold and silver commemorative coins and bullion coins
I just finished updating Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Malta) up to 2018 although it's still far from complete (I did not have time to include descriptions or images). Malta issued three bullion coins coins in 2018, called the Melita bullion coins (I believe they're worthy of their own article - more info here), and there are plans to mint more every year. These are not commemorative coins so I didn't include them in the list (although I did mention them briefly), however I'm asking for other opinions - should they be included or not?

As a side note, virtually all the Euro gold and silver commemorative coins articles need to be updated, many of them have not been updated since around 2008-09 or so.

--Xwejnusgozo (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Proposed move and expansion of Lincoln cent mintage figures
I've opened a discussion at Talk:Lincoln cent mintage figures about including all US cent mintage figures. - ZLEA Talk\ Contribs 20:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

New task force
I've started a new task force at WikiProject Numismatics/American currency task force. - ZLEA <font color="#6B8E23">T<font color="#6B8E23">\ <font color="#6B8E23">C 16:14, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar
I've created a barnstar for this wikiproject at Template:Numismatics Barnstar. Thoughts or comments? - <font color="#6B8E23">ZLEA <font color="#6B8E23">Talk<font color="#6B8E23">\ <font color="#6B8E23">Contribs 15:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I might make the coin bigger. Or even placed the star on the coin. No idea if this is feasible. Thanks for your work.-/17:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)Wehwalt (talk)
 * It might be feasible for someone with Photoshop, if anyone can do this the coin is from File:WikiMoney.svg. - <font color="#6B8E23">ZLEA <font color="#6B8E23">T<font color="#6B8E23">\ <font color="#6B8E23">C 22:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Philippine currency images
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A new newsletter directory is out!
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New to WikiProject
Hi friends on WikiProject Numismatics,

I am very into finance and history, and my half year resolution will be understanding how Euro currency was launched, hopefully in depth. I figured contributing to related pages will be helpful. What's the official way to join this effort? Thank you!

Xinbenlv (talk) 21:30, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Welcome. We do not have a formal membership, but there are a few regular faces you'll come to recognize. Please feel free to improve whatever you can.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:32, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Xinbenlv (talk) 00:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Requested moves
I've started a move request at Talk:America the Beautiful Quarters covering America the Beautiful Quarters, District of Columbia and United States Territories Quarters, and 50 State Quarters. - <font color="#6B8E23">ZLEA <font color="#6B8E23">T<font color="#6B8E23">\ <font color="#6B8E23">C 20:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Requesting Review
Hello all, here on WikiProject Numismatics,

I created an article in late April this year - Bank of England £100,000,000 note - but have only recently found the time to commit to it, and after hours of trying to figure out why my citations were creating errors and shifting things around a bit to make the layout a bit more slick and formal and of course adding some actual detail instead of a single sentence for the whole article, I've finished expanding it for today. But, before I continue, could someone from here on WikiProject Numismatics have a quick read over it and report back to me if any of it needs removing (waffle and off-topic), or anything which wasn't made clear and needs adding? It definitely needs much more vigorous improvement but I don't know where to start so I've come here! Unfortunately the info box is quite hard to fill out due to how little is actually known about the note.

Kind regards from a Numismatic Rookie, TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * An interesting topic! I'll drop some comments in the next day or two.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:44, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I look forward to editing it more in the near future. TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 02:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

New award
I created a new award to replace the Numismatics Barnstar (I know it's been only a few months since I created that). I would like to know what everyone thinks. - <font color="#6B8E23">ZLEA <font color="#6B8E23">T<font color="#6B8E23">\ <font color="#6B8E23">C 00:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
There is a new AfD at Articles for deletion/American Innovation $1 Coin Program Design - Obverse. - <font color="#6B8E23">ZLEA <font color="#6B8E23">T<font color="#6B8E23">\ <font color="#6B8E23">C 20:08, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Jew with a coin DYK
Does the Jew with a coin DYK count as a numismatics DYK? - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 19:07, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:30, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * To give more thought to that. I would say that our scope includes exonumia and uses of coins or coin images outside of commerce. For example, use of coins (real or simulated) in amulets is known in China and Japan. I'd say we take the broad picture, if for no other reason than there's not likely to be a conflict with other projects.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:31, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

2019 US Banknote Contest
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Sourcing problems
Looks like we may have some bad sourcing based on this: http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2019/10/23/80x25/ ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:42, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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Looking for sources
I was about to request these on WP:RX, but it's a long shot, then I thought it might make more sense to ask here. Does anyone have access to these sources?


 * "Portraits in medals. Miss Dora Ohlfsen describes a rare and difficult art". The British-Australasian. 26 July 1906. p. 7.

It's for Dora Ohlfsen-Bagge. SarahSV (talk) 01:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I haven't found anything. I did search The Numismatist archives as well as the Newman Numismatic Portal as well as the American Numismatic Association library. You might get somewhere contacting the British Numismatic people, or the Australians, but I don't know much about them.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:04, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Kudos
I continue to be impressed by the high quality (and regular publication) of the Project's Newsletter and to the amazing number of Featured articles and photos produced by WP:NUMIS. Thank you and congratulations to all the hard-working members who make the Project shine! - Mark D Worthen PsyD  (talk)  (I am a man. The traditional male pronouns are fine.) 16:41, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Currency signs: regular and special
About navbox Currency symbols. Here I started a discussion on the presence of regular letter signs (like "Q" for GTQ) in the navbox. -DePiep (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Template:Infobox currency
Re Infobox currency: there is a proposal to remove the external links from the tenmplate. See Template_talk:Infobox_currency. -DePiep (talk) 18:24, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

New timeline for the Polymer banknote article
With the recent quarantine, I have had the opportunity to work on a fancier timeline for the Polymer banknote article, as there had been some murmurings about the current adoption timeline being incomplete and cumbersome (I also think that it's cluttering the ToC). I figured that I would mention this work here. Any feedback about it is welcome on the Polymer banknote talk page. --EnronEvolvedMy Talk Page 16:46, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Merging needed
Hi. One hundred pounds (British coin) and Landmarks of Britain coins are exactly the same, but have two articles! Sumorsǣte (talk) 20:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, I created the page for Landmarks of Britain and from what I understand the page One hundred pounds (British coin) is about the coin denomination itself which has featured other designs such as Britannia. Landmarks of Britain designs have also appeared on commemorative £2 coins.  Tsange (Talk) 15:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft:List of Friedberg Numbers for United States Currency
Could someone provide feedback about this article? Is this an appropriate article topic? Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure there should be a list article with the sole purpose of matching catalog numbers to banknote (or even coin) varieties. Such an article would defeat the purpose of buying the book. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 22:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, the subject is something that exists but I don't think it's notable. The content about the concept belongs at Paper money catalog. As ZLEA says, an article shouldn't be a standalone chart for cross-reference. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 22:44, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not quite sure what differentiates this list from the many lists of numismatic nature already accepted. Many of those topics also have books associated with them.  (The main point of the books is the valuations which change from year to year, not the actual numbering which doesn't change.)  What other information would make this type of list more 'notable'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by U2015 (talk • contribs) 09:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Assuming these numbers are widely used, then I don't think you need to buy the book for the system. But such a list would not, in my opinion, be useful without at least some illustrations. Godot13 uploaded many images of currency.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There are no other lists like this on Wikipedia (that I know of, at least). Other lists of banknotes and coins do exist, and some do match their variety with one or more catalog numbers, but none have the sole purpose of batching the number and the variety.  There are some varieties that are missed or discovered after the catalog was published, so it would be better to have a complete list of known varieties on a banknote's article using the Friedberg book as a reference, as well as any other sources that cover missed varieties. - <b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b> <b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b> 12:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking around a little bit, I came across List_of_mountain_ranges_of_Utah, List_of_hobbies, List_of_counties_by_U.S._state_and_territory, etc which are just lists. However, they do have links to other entries.  Would it be more palatable if some of the entries were links to the other pages where the images from Godot13 are located (for example)?  Or is it the editor's contention that this is a non-starter and I should move on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by U2015 (talk • contribs) 09:33, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it could be useful if it illustrated the notes, perhaps in thumbnail size. Just my personal opinion.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * So what about my last comment? Would linking the entries to thumbnails do anything to change the opinions stated here?  If not, then let me know and I will call this a dead issue.
 * Can you convert a little bit of your draft to the format you suggest so I can take a look at it? Just a couple of entries.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I added 4 images to the Interest Bearing Notes section. --U2015 —Preceding undated comment added 21:22, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's pointless to add images because the subject isn't notable. We're not deciding if the article is pretty or not; we're looking at the sources about the subject per WP:N. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 21:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I happen to agree with Criss about this. However, I do think it could be salvaged by adding a list of known varieties (including the ones assigned Fr. numbers) to each article.  Fractional currency already does this, why not the other articles? -  ZLEA  T \ C 02:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also concur, this should not be an article per WP:RAWDATA. Far too much statistical information without context or reason for notability. Reywas92Talk 04:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Coinage shapes
On the page Coinage shapes I added quite a lot of coins, mostly with references to the online Numista cataloque. Also, I added some Numista references to coins that were listed in the article already.

I got a message from StAnselm who started the article who thinks non-circulating coins should be removed, as in the introduction of the article it is mentioned that the focus is on circulation coins. Then a link is given that shows some odd shaped non-circulating issue coins. Along with my solution (see next paragraph) I added the word 'mainly', so now it sais the article mainly focuses on circulation coins.

Now the question is: does 'coinage shapes' exclude non-circulating special issue coins with a value indication, even when they are official issues of the country mentioned on the coin? Any thoughts on that? My solution was to seperate the non-circulating issue coins from the circulating issue ones in a separate chapter at the end of the article, specifically mentioning that the coins mentioned there are official issues not meant for circulation. Does that sound agreeable?

Before I started editing, omong octagonal coins the Panama-Pacific coin was mentioned, which is a non-curculating commemorative coin according to the Numista catalogue, so I moved it to the final non-circulating section. Also, California gold coins are mentioned under 'octagonal'. I could not find any of these on Numista. Does anyone know (preferably with a reference) wether these coins were intended for circulation? Right now they are still mentioned under octagonal circulation coins. Edo Timmermans (talk) 10:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It would sound wise to segregate the coins not intended for circulation into their own section. A mint is a manufacturing plant for metal objects, it is simple enough to make some objects of unusual shape that sit in a case somewhere, but if they are intended for circulation, they have to have a more practical form. Regarding the California $50 octagonal slugs, with specific reference to the Augustus Humbert one, A Guide Book of United States Coins, 5th Mega Red edition (you can get the full biblio information from Worldcat, I am sure, this is the 2020 edition), says "The fifty-dollar gold piece was accepted by most banks and merchants as legal tender on a par with standard U,S. gold coins and was known variously as a slug, quintuple eagle, five-eagle piece, or abode (the latter a type of construction brick). It was officially termed an ingot. (p. 1277). The California fractional gold (including octagonal) pieces are mentioned at p. 1291 "the commercial acceptance of these hard-to-handle, underweight coins was always limited, but they soon became popular as souvenirs". Does that help?--Wehwalt (talk) 18:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Criteria for inclusion for lists of local currencies
Do we have a formal criteria for inclusion for lists of local currencies (such as List of community currencies in the United States)? If not, we need it. These lists are very susceptible to spam for the people and organizations that create local currencies. - ZLEA  T \ C 16:12, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's hard to judge. There's a whole range from serious attempts at emergency currencies to pure fundraiser and sources are likely to be minimal.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:05, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

500 yen coin
I just need some additional editor input on the 500 yen coin article. I have worked on the article extensively so copy editing and making sure things are in order is appreciated. Would the article be B class or on its way to GA? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it could be worth a try at GA. I have upgraded it to B and will leave some comments on talk when I get a chance.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks! - Knowledgekid87 (talk)

Question about articles on two 77 year old coins
Hi all, I came across 5 cents (World War II Dutch coin) and 5 øre (World War II Danish coin), which have been tagged with notability concerns for just short of 5 years. I am not familiar with Wikipedia articles/coverage of coins, so thought I should check in. The problem with finding sourcing is the fact that these ceased production 77 years ago. I haven't found much aside from ebay listings and the like. Does anyone have any examples of sources that I should be looking out for when it comes to 20th century coins? Thanks for your time and assistance, it is much appreciated. -- The SandDoctor Talk 17:53, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The Standard Catalog of World Coins may have a minimum of information. There are probably specialized catalogs on Dutch and Danish coins published in the respective countries. I don't happen to own any. The numismatic associations in the respective nations might be helpful if emailed, they may have issued publications in which these are discussed.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:48, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

FAR notice
I have nominated New Orleans Mint for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Bacon 05:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Malaysian ringgit
Could someone have a look at this article for a technical issue per this discussion. Thanx, -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 16:33, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Contributors to British Numismatics
Hello all! The British Numismatic Society has just launched a new database of contributors which looks like it will be an amazing resource. Lajmmoore (talk) 12:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's good, . What we tend to be short of always is images released under a Creative Commons license of modern coins. If you have some influence in that regard ...--Wehwalt (talk) 15:23, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Reference_desk/Humanities
If someone can help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Octopus card
I have nominated Octopus card for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:33, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Add Chinese Yuan to Template:Exchange rate
Chinese Yuan is now a relatively widely used currency around the world, and is the fifth largest reserve currency in the world now. Thus I think it should be added into becoming one of the default currency in the template for convertion. C933103 (talk) 10:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I would have to agree with you on this. It seems the current default currencies are based a list from 2010 that no longer exists. Perhaps the selected currencies should be the most exchanged currencies on the global market as seen here: Template:Most traded currencies. Tsange (Talk) 19:36, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the IMF reserve currency list also have CNY instead of HKD as the 8th in the list, while others remain the same. C933103 (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please make your requested changes to the page's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. Then feel free to reopen this request.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 03:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You mean like Template:Exchange rate/CNY ? C933103 (talk) 10:27, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * They meant adding the code to Template:Exchange rate/sandbox. But what you've done is good enough, so ✅, and you should probably G7 Template:Exchange rate/CNY now. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Coin articles in "Currencies introduced in year" categories
I noticed that Booker T. Washington Memorial half dollar was recently added to Category:Currencies introduced in 1946. Given that US commemorative coins aren't currencies, I don't think they belong in this type of category. The same goes for other coin and banknote articles, such as Roosevelt dime in the same category. Thoughts? - ZLEA  T \ C 13:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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Value of 250,000 rubles during the Russian Revolution
Talk:Nestor Makhno

Hello! Looking for some assistance contextualizing the size/importance of a 250,000-ruble bank expropriation during the Ukrainian War of Independence/Russian Revolution. Discussion linked above. czar 02:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Order of the Bath Featured article review
I have nominated Order of the Bath for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  20:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Help
Hello there, This side Zuhair, an Indian coin collector. I am willing to join the project, kindly guide me how to get started. Numis Zuhair (talk) 12:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome. It would be helpful if you could improve or start articles on Indian numismatics. Remember per WP:V, adding proper sources for your information is essential.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the suggestion to our new volunteer Zuhair. He is passionate to contribute with his primary interest being DCW and numismatics. I have started to guide him through my adoption school and request you too to leave helpful notes for him timey. We all learn this way. ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  19:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Medallistics
Hello, I'm reviewing Draft:Medallistics at AfC, and was wondering if someone here could provide an expert opinion on this. There is some evidence, but not much, of the use of this term; whether it warrants its own article, I don't know. Thoughts? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm not convinced that this is a real term. I ran it through the archives of The Numismatist going back to the 1890s and the term's never been used. And I've never encountered it. I also checked the British Numismatic Society, the American Numismatic Society, and the Newman Numismatic Portal. The last one pulled up one source, here. It may be a translation from Spanish. That's all I got. Wehwalt (talk) 21:47, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Wehwalt, that my first instinct also, but I figured 'what do I know?', so thought I'd best ask those in the know. The few sources I found, too, were either Spanish or Portuguese, so it could be a translation, as you say. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:40, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:History of pound sterling in Oceania
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:History of pound sterling in Oceania that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:01, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Double florin
The article Double florin is a recently promoted FA. There is rather long discussion at talk:Double florin on what is appropriate to include in the infobox, with just three editors participating. Given the FA status of the article, more eyes would be wise, please. John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Pound sterling § RfC planning
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Pound sterling § RfC planning. NotReallyMoniak (talk) 18:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Drawing of srebrenik
Can you take a look at ? Alaexis¿question? 10:14, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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Złoty or zloty?
I'd appreciate it if some of you could have a look at Talk:Polish_złoty and maybe weigh in. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Belarusian rubel
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Belarusian rubel that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 04:39, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Capitalising and italicising names of coins
Coins of the Holy German Empire typically have German names which, as nouns, begin with a capital letter in German: Taler, Groschen, Schilling, Pfennig. In addition, foreign words are usually italicised e.g. Reichswehr, Persilschein. However, on Wikipedia I kept coming across common coins such as the pfennig and mark in lower case and unitalicised. I've now done some research of the WP:RS and a pattern has emerged. It seems that the names of common coins such as the groschen, schilling, gulden and pfennig are effectively used as loanwords which is why they need not be capitalised or italicised. In addition, in English, we tend to use thaler (the old German spelling) and not taler; so that is definitely a loanword. Meanwhile the rest of the pack are usually treated as foreign words and capitalised: Dreiling, Scherf, Blaffert, Reichsthaler. My sense is that there is no need for this to be a rigid rule, but perhaps it's a useful general guide for editors. Bermicourt (talk) 18:54, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Japanese government-issued Philippine peso
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Japanese government-issued Philippine peso that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 01:02, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Sur (currency)
I saw this article Sur (currency). It might be of interest to members of this project. Thriley (talk) 23:09, 7 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I've moved it to draft, just like User:Onel5969 did. This is speculative and not ready for mainspace. This is better covered in Argentina–Brazil relations or Mercosur or even merged with Single South American currency rather than as a page on a hypothetical currency unit at this point. Reywas92Talk 01:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:No original research/noticeboard § Soviet Rbl
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:No original research/noticeboard § Soviet Rbl. NotReallySoroka (talk) 14:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Potential edit war
Last year an edit war occurred at Egyptian pound resulting in the participants being blocked. One of the participants has re-edited the article away from the stable version to a form which is not supported by sources. Valethske (talk) 13:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to The Currency Guy? If you're sure it's them, then report to AN/I for block evasion. Wehwalt (talk) 13:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No, its MatthewS, he seems intent on adding abbreviations the sources don't use. Valethske (talk) 14:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I appeal to @MatthewS. to engage here before editing the article again. Valethske (talk) 06:18, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Moderators, please check the info I posted on the Egyptian pound and judge for yourselves. Everything is referenced, in fact the £ currency sign is referenced by a historic record that the other contributor has used to back up their claim for the all-caps PT abbr. for "piastre," which I was initially wasn't convinced of, until I saw that reference and stood corrected, and changed all instances of small-case "pt" to "PT" all-caps as referenced by their ref historic record. But also the standalone £ sign is also used on that same document, proving that the pound sign is indeed a valid way to abbreviate Egyptian pound, and was so intended since the late 1800's. So I used this same reference to backup the use of the standalone £ sign for Egyptian pound where no confusion could be caused, for example where the context shows the Egyptian pound is what is intended. E£ is also commonly used online to specify Egyptian pound, and I have also provided references to back up that claim. Everything is referenced and the only reason I could imagine the other contributor would be in disagreement is a matter of personal opinion or preference, no more no less. MatthewS. (talk) 19:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * These abbreviations you insist upon are poorly sourced and are certainly not the most commonly used (the most common by far is LE, as demonstrated by all sources). Valethske (talk) 07:06, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Again, that’s your personal opinion. LE is no longer the most common one. E£ is very common nowadays, and “EGP”. Please stop reverting my edits MatthewS. (talk) 12:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The Central Bank of Egypt (and pretty much all of the sources) uses "LE", your preferred "E£" does not seem to occur anywhere in reliable sources. If something cannot be demonstrated to be "the most common one" using reliable sources then it should not be used as the primary abbreviation. Valethske (talk) 12:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


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US nickel coin has changed design?
Hi, it looks like the nickel now has a different design from the one(s) displayed in Jefferson nickel, Nickel (United States coin), and Coins of the United States dollar ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 05:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Someone got the 2013 design deleted, I've readded it. Reywas92Talk 13:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There have been problems with a number of recent US coins that were designed by people who are not Mint employees and to which the US government has acquired the copyrights. While we can freely use government works, the US Mint has been restrictive in its image use policy. Thus, the best we can do is a fair use, and people haven't been uploading low-resolution versions and filling out fair use rationales. Wehwalt (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Editions Victor Gadoury article is proposed for deletion
FYI, Editions Victor Gadoury has been proposed for deletion. The article's lead says: Deletion will occur automatically after 20:37, 9 August 2023 (UTC) unless someone removes the tag.
 * "The Editions Victor Gadoury is a Monaco publishing company specialized in numismatics and selling coin catalogs."

If you think deletion is a good idea, you can second the proposal by adding a tag.

-- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 20:34, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Has anyone here heard of Fanery, the traditional money used in Madagascar (well, maybe not)?
For the interested: Articles for deletion/Fanery. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:35, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Design for Eco Banknotes
I am interested in seeing possible designs for the proposed Eco banknotes. 2603:6080:D00:6862:CD9B:571F:7457:784 (talk) 11:41, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I would suspect those would be copyrighted Wehwalt (talk) 11:48, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Minimum window width in WikiProject Numismatics
Why do the "yellow/orange frames" in WikiProject Numismatics force a minimum screen window width of nearly 2.000 px (or permanent sideways scrolling) instead of gracefully adapting to the actual windows width? This is contrary to proven WP style elsewhere and counterproductive both on mobile devices (though not my personal interest) as well as multi-window workmode even on 4K screens (myday-to-day practice). I would be grateful for an explanation, if there is a good one, or else a remedy. Thanks --HReuter (talk) 22:04, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

panama balboa coin question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panamanian_balboa This page discusses the balboa coins, and the picture shows the half balboa coin being produced from 1973 on, but the text below the picture says that is was first produced in 1930, then changed in 1966 and again in 1973. I am assuming the text is correct, I recently found a 1966 half balboa in pocket change. Expat somewhere (talk) 16:16, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks like the table is describing the coin in its current dimensions/composition, which was introduced in 1973. The section, as well as the article as a whole, is largely unsourced. -  ZLEA  T \ C 16:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)