User talk:Another Believer/Archive 20

March 2017 WikiCup newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
 * 🇪🇺 Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
 * 🇯🇵 1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
 * Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

So, on to the second round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Moonlight (Ariana Grande song) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Moonlight (Ariana Grande song) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Moonlight (Ariana Grande song) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Green Light (Lorde song)
It appears you have created Draft:Green Light (Lorde song), whereas I had previously expressed a concern on your talk page (about Drake's songs, as far as I recall; Fake Love being one), with you saying you would be more mindful of it in future, over your apparent unwillingness to overwrite a redirect someone else created, but to create it in draftspace then "claim" it for yourself. You know quite well Green Light (Lorde song) exists, and yet you're still doing it, obviously wanting my redirect to be overwritten with your content when the time comes. You expect others to create content over most of the redirects you create, so why do you avoid doing it yourself? I wouldn't think you'd be too happy if every user did this to an album or song page you had redirected, so I don't know why you do it to things you have an interest in that I created before you. Also, please don't tell me this is about "incubating" the article until it gets notable enough (and that that's why you didn't yet post it over the redirect), because when it does, you will absolutely request to overwrite the redirect. Trying to assume good faith here, Another Believer, but you have gone and done what you pretty much said you wouldn't again do.  Ss 112  00:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't go the draft route to "override" your redirect, but since you're concerned about getting credit for creating the redirect, I'll just copy the draft content to your redirect in main space. I don't care about the credit, I just assumed the article would be nominated for deletion so I was stalling. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * AB, I think you know how it works by now. An administrator will see the draft history then merge the two as they see fit, so you've basically ensured it will overwrite the redirect history because it is "more complex" and notable than someone's redirect. I also don't enjoy being criticised for apparently being concerned about "getting credit", especially when considering you redirect tonnes of pages and obviously want the "credit" for those, otherwise why create them? Sure, we can all say "I do it to be helpful and redirect readers to the album or artist page", but is that really all it is? I mean, I don't know how I'm taking credit anyway. I'm not using an off-Wiki counter to go "look at all these articles I started" (but didn't actually create the content for) or claim them for myself—I just don't see the point of overwriting redirects.  Ss 112  01:36, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I create redirects, stubs, and drafts all the time, Ss112. I'm sorry if you feel some of them conflict with your edits, but I'm not singling you out in any way or attempting to steal credit for being a page's original author. Yes, I do track pages I'm credited for starting, but that's because I'm interested in article assessment, editing trends, and tracking which articles have been promoted to quality status at English Wikipedia and Wikipedias of other languages. And no, I wouldn't be offended if someone's draft overrode one of my redirects. Creating a redirect is not something I take a ton of credit for creating. You said, "you will absolutely request to overwrite the redirect". That's actually something I do rarely, so I find that unfair to say. I'll think you'll find that I've improved, categorized, and added talk page banners to many pages you've created, and overrode few. I don't mean to offend you, and I will try to remain aware of your edits. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I wrote the above comments before reading your reply, Ss112. I think we may have different reasons for creating redirects. I'm less concerned about credit, so again, I will try to watch your edits carefully and avoid overriding. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:44, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 10
Issue 10 of the WikiProject X newsletter is here!

This month, we discuss the new CollaborationKit extension. Here's an image as a teaser:



23:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - The Final
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TFL notification
Hi, Another Believer. I'm just posting to let you know that Grammy Award for Best Female Rock Vocal Performance – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 31. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 23:20, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:21, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of I'm Born to Run for deletion
This is a courtesy message to notify you that the article I'm Born to Run is being considered for deletion. All editors, including you, are welcome to discuss this at Articles for deletion/I'm Born to Run until a consensus is reached. The nomination and discussion are expected to focus on the quality of evidence and the policies and guidelines which are of concern. Please be aware that there are a number of arguments to avoid in a deletion discussion.

Users are encouraged to edit the article during the discussion, particularly in ways that address the concerns raised in that discussion. However, please do not attempt to remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article— doing so may be considered an act of bad faith and will not halt the deletion process. Thank you!  Onel 5969  TT me 12:22, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There's not need for a deletion discussion. Just redirect the page to the album article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:47, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi - I agree with you wholeheartedly, however, when other editors continue to revert the redirect, I feel there is a need to develop consensus for either the article to stay, become a redirect, or to be deleted totally (which I think would be wrong, but if that were the consensus). The redirect has been reverted about 4 times over the past 9 months, so I felt a community discussion was warranted. If the consensus is for a redirect, than at least it gives an editor an opportunity to ask for pp. Does that make sense?  Onel 5969  TT me 16:23, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I do see what you mean, but I'm not sure this discussion, which will likely result in a merge vote, will prevent editors from expanding the redirect again in the future. Perhaps I'll be proven wrong! Thanks for responding. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: February 2017
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Nomination of 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Nomination of Cop and a Half-wit for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cop and a Half-wit is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Cop and a Half-wit until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Art+Feminism @ Portland Institute for Contemporary Art (March 18, 2017)
You are invited to the upcoming Art+Feminism edit-athon, which will be held at the Portland Institute for Contemporary Art (415 Southwest 10th Avenue #300, Portland 97205) on Saturday, March 18, 2017 from 10:00am – 5:00pm. For more information, visit Eventbrite.

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 * Hi, I won't be able to make it to this event (we're holding a weekend training event at our large group house in Seattle), but I did want to mention the ArtAndFeminism2017 article template for article talk pages, which you might find useful. Peaceray (talk) 17:07, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up / reminder! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! Funcrunch (talk) 20:35, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:36, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Vicious World move request

 * There was nothing at User:Vicious World or Vicious World except redirects and blank edits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:52, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:57, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of People's Climate Mobilization for deletion
This is a courtesy message to notify you that the article People's Climate Mobilization is being considered for deletion. All editors, including you, are welcome to discuss this at Articles for deletion/People's Climate Mobilization until a consensus is reached. The nomination and discussion are expected to focus on the quality of evidence and the policies and guidelines which are of concern. Please be aware that there are a number of arguments to avoid in a deletion discussion.

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❌ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:02, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

What a waste of editors' time. Let's try this again: Draft:People's Climate March (2017). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:02, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Portland Women March Against Hate for deletion
This is a courtesy message to notify you that the article Portland Women March Against Hate is being considered for deletion. All editors, including you, are welcome to discuss this at Articles for deletion/Portland Women March Against Hate until a consensus is reached. The nomination and discussion are expected to focus on the quality of evidence and the policies and guidelines which are of concern. Please be aware that there are a number of arguments to avoid in a deletion discussion.

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❌ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:30, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Gays for Trump


The article Gays for Trump has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Not a notable organization

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Proposed deletion of Pudong Shangri-La


The article Pudong Shangri-La has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * No evidence of notability

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"Sex with Me"
Do you want to work on it with me? — Calvin999 17:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Possibly? I can't promise dedicating too much time to the article, since I'm working on quite a few others at the moment. I am definitely glad to see you making improvements, though -- hopefully this will be promoted to Good article status at some point. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:54, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, well if you want to interject feel free. — Calvin999  17:55, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There's literally about 4 reviews for the song, how do you think that stands with notability considering it's long Hot 100 chart trajectory and it being number-one on the Dance chart? — Calvin999  18:03, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Surely there is other commentary that can be found in album reviews. Yes, I realize album reviews alone don't justify song notability, but that doesn't mean commentary can't be included in a "Critical reception" section. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * And thanks for the invite! I might take a look at the article when I have more time, but fully support your expansion work in the meantime. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:09, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I mean because it's a deluxe track, most album reviews don't mention it. I've put some on the talk page for those which do. — Calvin999  18:10, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see what you mean. I forgot this song did not appear on the album's standard version. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:11, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo


The article Bust of Cristiano Ronaldo has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Not notable

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 * Unnecessary and untrue. The sculpture as received plenty of coverage. I've posted links on the talk page, and someone else has already removed the tag. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:28, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't thank me just yet. I'm wondering if a better move would be to merge the existing content into a section of Cristiano Ronaldo International Airport.  p  b  p  15:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Non worries, though I disagree 100%. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:31, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure a merge into this or his main article but not an standalone article. Kante4 (talk) 15:42, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I couldn't disagree more, but let's let the discussion play out. This work received a lot of coverage. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:43, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I love you.
Thank you for creating Draft:Bust_of_Cristiano_Ronaldo. I'm dying right now XD Greasemann (talk) 23:02, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Greasemann
 * Hah! The draft is definitely still a work in progress, but glad you're enjoying. Apparently some other Wikipedia editors don't feel the same way, but it's all good. I hope to continue expanding the draft, and all are welcome to join! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:03, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I vouched for you on the deletion page :) Greasemann (talk) 23:05, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Greasemann
 * Thanks. I'm afraid your argument isn't based on any particular policy, and I've already accepted that the article will be merged, but I appreciate the vote of support regardless. Don't worry, hopefully I'll be able to move this draft into the main space after its expansion. In the meantime, I'll let the other editors argue over notability. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:07, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * All righty Greasemann (talk) 23:08, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Greasemann

Discussion at Articles for deletion/People's Climate Mobilization
You are invited to join the discussion at Articles for deletion/People's Climate Mobilization. Cheers, Friy <font color="#FFA500">Man talk 07:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dawn (sculpture)


The article Dawn (sculpture) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Not a notable piece of artwork; google searching only brings up the one reference used and images hard to find too.

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See also: Giraffe
Why did you add that "see also" section to all those articles on individual giraffes when we already have Category:Individual giraffes? DS (talk) 14:19, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ... because I thought users might be interested in reading about a few other notable individual giraffes. If you don't agree, feel free to revert or edit. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:25, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

The Unipiper
I'd like to hear more about why you moved it away from 'the'. The usage of the stage name seems to mirror The Beatles or The Beach Boys, with the initial 'The' as part of the formal name. A quick perusal through the RS'es and his official website seems to support this, although it's certainly not unanimous. Jclemens (talk) 04:29, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, I disagree, and I was bold in moving the page but feel free to revert if you feel strongly that "the" should be included in the title. I wouldn't think to search "The Unipiper" to learn more about his person. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 07:46, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, either way, with redirects it's not a big deal, just a stylistic matter over where the topic 'rests'. There's another editor who's been working on the article as well--I'll ping him to see what he thinks. Jclemens (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, always great to bring more folks into the conversation. IMO, some sources do say "The Unipiper", but others are just "the Unipiper" or "Unipiper", so I don't see the "The" being used in the same way "The" always appears in "The Beatles", for example. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:26, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Whoops, and then I got busy and forgot to follow up on this, what do you think of this question? Jclemens (talk) 04:42, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Chris Has Got a Date, Date, Date, Date, Date
Hello, Another Believer,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Chris Has Got a Date, Date, Date, Date, Date should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Chris Has Got a Date, Date, Date, Date, Date.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

Eddie Blick (talk) 23:22, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. There is no reason to delete a page that is a possible search term, so redirecting is more appropriate if there is not enough coverage to justify a standalone article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Inside Family Guy
Hello, Another Believer,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Inside Family Guy should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Inside Family Guy.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

Eddie Blick (talk) 23:24, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. There is no reason to delete a page that is a possible search term, so redirecting is more appropriate if there is not enough coverage to justify a standalone article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't understand your statement, "There is no reason to delete a page that is a possible search term." It seems to me that any name or expression is a possible search term. Therefore, applying the quoted sentence would mean that no page would ever be deleted. Perhaps you are correct about the advisability of a redirect, but I didn't see that option in the page curation tools. Eddie Blick (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * What I mean to say is that both redirects serve a purpose by redirecting readers to Family Guy (season 15). We don't delete redirects that serve a purpose. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:16, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the clarification. I'm still learning about the finer points of notability, so I appreciate your feedback. Eddie Blick (talk) 12:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you re: Day for Night Festival
Thank you for fixing my citations, i had to save my changes but i plan on finishing the article. CatSleepingOnTheKeyboard (talk) 19:01, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No prob! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:11, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Lust for Life (Lana Del Rey song)
You recognize that, even though the song's registration has been covered by media in speculation of Del Rey's next album, it's not notable and is a rumor? This, to me, brings up a bigger issue, because would we do the same and redirect the hundred or so unreleased songs she has, particularly those written in the Born to Die sessions? I just wanted to know your thought process in this situation, because it could be helpful to me. -- Aleccat  13:46, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand. But I also recognize that people search for information on Wikipedia, and we should be able to redirect them to the closest notable topic. If there are a hundred unreleased, but confirmed, songs associated with Born to Die, perhaps there should be a list of unreleased songs recorded by Lana Del Rey. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Marking this section as resolved -- the song has already premiered so the redirect is entirely appropriate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:02, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Not My Presidents Day
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Not My Presidents Day you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Prinsgezinde -- Prinsgezinde (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Not My Presidents Day
The article Not My Presidents Day you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Not My Presidents Day for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Prinsgezinde -- Prinsgezinde (talk) 16:21, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Congrats!! Trilotat (talk) 15:57, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! This green plus sign was well-earned. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:04, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

GOCE: Not My Presidents Day
Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Not My Presidents Day has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:36, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I've reviewed and approve of your edits, and I appreciate your time and willingness to help improve this article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:26, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome. Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:00, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: March 2017
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For all you've done

 * Thank you so, so much, Bri. Really, I appreciate your kind words, well wishes, and support for this inaugural campaign. I'm looking forward to the next 2 weeks and creating lots of content. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:15, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry about what has happened with the invites. I've managed to keep the invites at a couple of projects. It's mainly Davey2010 who has removed them even after being asked to stop at his talkpage. AusLondonder (talk) 01:21, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I feel like right now I should just step back and let this sort itself out. I appreciate your support. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem at all :) AusLondonder (talk) 01:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Good work on all the cannabis related articles. You seem as obssesed with this as I have been with women's ice hockey. Lol, we all need a hobby or two. I added to your Emerald Empire Hempfest article, felt it was short on details. I'll need to browse to see if you've included anything about my home state, Massachusetts. Thanks for the work. Bill McKenna (talk) 03:14, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contributing to the EEH article. Yeah, a few editors are working hard on cannabis-related content as part of the ongoing (and first) 420 Collaboration. I don't often edit cannabis content, but see many missing and incomplete articles, so wanted to encourage folks to collaborate. Most of what I'm contributing are just stubs, but I want to get the ball rolling on new articles and I hope to nominate a couple articles for Good status, too. Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia as well! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:31, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Hey, thanks a lot! It's about time for a beer IRL, too. Took a few minutes, but I got through the revision notifications. I was a bit disappointed at first, but I've also seen a lot of support so I'm feeling more encouraged and now just stepping back and letting this run its course. Perhaps the drama will recruit a few more folks to help the campaign, like you suggested! Thanks again. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:27, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

New category hierarchy?
What do you think? Bri (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Cannabis people
 * Activists
 * Cannabis writers Julie Holland, David Schmader, Laurie Wolf, Draft:Sohum Shah
 * Cannabis chefs Laurie Wolf, Maria Hines
 * Hmm. "Cannabis people" sounds a bit strange to me. That's like saying, "Alcohol people", no? I think we should probably continue categorize people by occupation and then maybe also adding them to cannabis culture-related categories as appropriate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Returning to this now that we have Category:Women in cannabis. Parent cat People in cannabis? - Bri (talk) 05:25, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I say go for it, and we can let the community decide its ultimate fate! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:27, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Post at Village Pump?
I've posted at the Village Pump for 15 languages, but as Walter pointed out it appears we haven't done so for our own English Village Pump. Do you want to post on that? I'm going out running errands downtown (text me if you're around to meet up for coffee or beer), but I can post it this evening if you'd rather I did it. Overall got good reactions from the other-language Village Pumps, got some comments at fr, nl, and pt, thanks at ca, removed for spam on it (but I reverted with a rebuttal and it-specific requests) and reverted at ar but might rebut later. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 17:22, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm unavailable today but perhaps later in the week. I'll let you post to English Village Pump since you posted at the others. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:28, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'm in town until maybe Sat or Sun, will post on VP this afternoon. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 18:14, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Posted at VP. Got a little more pushback at it.wikipedia and I think I might have just posted in the wrong area. fa. and ar. reverted me too, so in the next day or so I'll try to repost it with a clearer reason on tasks we'd recommend for that project. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 07:43, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

March for Science possible source
FYI KUOW possibly broadcast nationally on All Things Considered. - Bri (talk) 22:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

New WP:GOCE/REQ per-editor limit
It's been reduced from three to two because of the large number of requests.  Mini  apolis  21:30, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was not aware. Thanks for the heads up. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No apology needed; the list has gone crazy lately for some reason. All the best,  Mini  apolis  21:45, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Phone posting today
Sorry if my formatting is kinda slipshod, I'm mostly editing from my phone today. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 22:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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Third Eye Shoppe
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 * Thank you very much! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:27, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Nothing personal, really!
Dear Believer, you might have gotten the impression that I either have a grudge against you or against the subjects you are editing: it's absolutely not the case. I do believe that your expansion of the climate march article is making it worse, not better: it now reads like a giant advertisement, thus reinforcing the WP:PROMO rationale that was levied against it at the first AfD. I just picked a sentence at random:

So we just list the meeting place, the entertainers, and the sponsors. Frankly, do you think this is encyclopedic? I'm sad to see us getting into a fight over this, because I've seen your enthusiasm put to better use for other articles. Obviously I won't change your mind any more than you'll change mine, but I just wanted to reach out personally. Happy editing! — JFG talk 00:23, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for stopping by (truly). No, I wasn't under the impression you had a grudge against me. I did question if you held more conservative political views, but I did not feel the need to scrutinize your editing history to see if bias or prejudice were at play. I just think we have different ideas of what content belongs at Wikipedia, and that's fine. Sometimes I wish I had more time to develop content, but I certainly respect the guidelines we've established as a community and I'm almost never personally offended by other editors.
 * I'm sorry you feel the article reads like an advertisement. The example text you provided is very similar to the content at Not My Presidents Day, which User:Megalibrarygirl and I promoted to Good article status together. If you read the article, you'll see a neutral overview of the many activities associated with the protest, including event locations, sponsors, organizers, venues, guest speakers, planning and promotion, attendance figures, etc. I don't see anything wrong with describing planned events scheduled to take place next weekend, then changing the tense of content or adding/removing the details as needed following April 29.
 * The Not My Presidents Day article underwent a lot of scrutiny, and I felt like I had to clear many bureaucratic, unnecessary hurdles just to justify the existence of a topic that, IMO, was clearly notable. In the end, Wikipedia added a new Good article to its collection of quality encyclopedia articles, but I felt like I was combating resistance the entire way, and I don't think that's what editing Wikipedia should be like. Thanks again for reaching out. We're not fighting, we're just disagreeing, and that's quite alright. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Appreciate your response, and agree to disagree, although there are certainly plenty of places we do agree. — JFG talk 08:35, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Unicorn Frappuccio
A passing trend for a slow news day. You should be ashamed of making that article; you've embarrassed wikipedia and yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.98.88.223 (talk) 16:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:34, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

¡Drama on es.wiki!
( too) No action required from you, but thought you might find this amusing. A zealous character on Es.wp has filed an ANI complaint alleging that I'm a connected-contributor somehow tied to the cannabis industry, and as evidence submits a bunch of mirrored WP content on sites that are full of "V!@Gr@ $10/g". This is going to get amusing; link is here They post in really idiomatic/regional Spanish that I have trouble reading, so I'm replying in the weirdest mix of Spanish/Galician/French/Catalan phrasing I can, and using lots of English idioms that I'm linking to Wiktionary. This is a delightful diversion from packing the house for the move. - Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney
 * Oh, geez... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:27, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You ain't done nothin' if you ain't been called a Red... I've offered a rebuttal in my wonky Spanish, and pinged the admin who previously reverted that editor's interference with me. This is amusing. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 00:11, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ben Taub (journalist)


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Nomination of Ben Taub (journalist) for deletion
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Orphaned non-free image File:Portland Women March Against Hate logo.jpg
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Nomination of Wikitribune for deletion
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 * Unnecessary. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Hymns and Songs of Inspiration
If you're going to make an article on an album, then please at least put the track listing on there. That's kind of important. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:09, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There is not need to be rude and drop f bombs in edit summaries. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:53, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right, that was rude, and I apologize. I just think that failing to even put a track listing in the article on an album shows a complete lack of effort on the editor's part. Could you please at least do this much? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:04, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll try to revisit soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Lola Baldwin image
While looking for something else, I chanced upon a pre-1923 image of Lola Baldwin, uploaded it to the Commons and added it to the Lola Baldwin article. It's not a high-quality image, but it shows what she looked like. Finetooth (talk) 16:36, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, wonderful! Thank you so much. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:43, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon @ PNCA Library (April 29, 2017)
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Trying to connect with Wikipedians that are in Eugene or have attended the University of Oregon
Hi! I'm trying to connect with Wikipedians in Eugene or have attended the University of Oregon. Would you be able to assist me with trying to create a community to invite more editors from the Eugene area to the Eugene page? Thanks! 80atUO (talk) 18:27, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey! I did not attend UO, but I've attended/co-organized a couple Wikipedia editathons/workshops there. In addition to the link provided Jonesey95, I'd recommend browsing the pages in Category:Wikipedia meetups in Eugene, Oregon. I'd love to see more events organized in Eugene, and wish you luck! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:40, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, and WikiProject UO Weaving Women Into Wikipedia! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:51, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I have been in contact with one wikipedian, but do you know of any others in Eugene? Thanks! 80atUO (talk) 21:00, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I only know a couple, so you're best bet will be to post user talk page messages and a note at WikiProject Oregon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ok I'll continue doing that then! Thanks! 80atUO (talk) 21:05, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi again! We will be hosting an edit-a-thon at UO in the Knight Library, and we would love you to come if you are interested. I also need some advice on how to host one as well as how to advertise/ send mass messages. Thanks! 80atUO (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Have you established a set date and time for the meetup? If so, you might consider creating a meetup page (see examples of meetup pages for past events in Eugene here: Meetup/Eugene). I don't remember how I was granted mass message sending rights, but you might be able to find more information here: Mass message senders. Keep in mind, I send messages to a Portland-centric list, not a Eugene-centric list, so your best bet may be to just post about the meetup at WikiProject Oregon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of World (sculpture) for deletion
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May 2017 WikiCup newsletter
The second round of the competition has now closed, with just under 100 points being required to qualify for round 3. YellowEvan just scraped into the next round with 98 points but we have to say goodbye to the thirty or so competitors who didn't achieve this threshold; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Our top scorers in round 2 were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, led the field with five featured articles, four on birds and one on astronomy, and a total score of 2049, half of which came from bonus points.
 * 🇯🇵 1989 was in second place with 826 points, 466 of which were bonus points. 1989 has claimed points mostly relating to anime and Japanese-related articles.
 * Peacemaker67 took third place with two FAs, one GA and seven GARs, mostly on naval vessels or military personnel, scoring 543 points.
 * Other contestants who scored over 400 points were Freikorp, Carbrera, and Czar. Of course all these points are now wiped out and the 32 remaining contestants start again from zero in round 3.

Vivvt submitted the largest number of DYKs (30), and MBlaze Lightning achieved 13 articles at ITN. Carbrera claimed for 11 GAs and Argento Surfer performed the most GARs, having reviewed 11. So far we have achieved 38 featured articles and a splendid 132 good articles. Commendably, 279 GARs have been achieved so far, more than double the number of GAs.

So, on to the third round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 2017 May Day protests


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 * WP:NOTNEWS. There are protests on May Day every year, and they often turn violent.

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 * Of course the article should be kept, but I have a feeling this is about to go to AfD unnecessarily... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Called it! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:16, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Challenge: create a legitimate test account and write up the Olympia Ferguson-era shootings of two black shoplifters in 2015. Here's a solid source covering the resultant protests: . Then start a stopwatch. - Bri (talk) 22:46, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This has truly become so predictable, and is quite disappointing. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:47, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hands Across Hawthorne scheduled for TFA
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 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikimania '17 Scholarship Decision - Urgent
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 * I just replied to Ellie Young via email, thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:51, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Head III listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Head III. Since you had some involvement with the Head III redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. I have also nominated Head IV and Head V under one nomination. ~ GB fan 12:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * STOP THIS. You are vaporizing both active editors view of work done and to be done, and fooling readers with misleading and pointless blue links. I urge you to ask a thoughtful admin to revert all of this nonsense. By the way the abysmal edit history here is for shame. Ceoil (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Huh? I'm not doing anything wrong by creating stub from redirects that have been nominated for deletion. I'm trying to improve Wikipedia, and others are welcome to help expand these stubs. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:29, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You are NOT CREATING STUBS - you are creating dabs to the bio and obsquiring what articles have been created and have not, ie throwing sand in the water. Ceoil (talk) 17:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * . Thanks for editing your comment, and please don't call me stupid again. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:35, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm describing what I see, and as a passionate editor in this area will not let your idiocy stand. Ceoil (talk) 17:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:59, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thats your best defence and reasoned argument? Its no wonder people give up in dispare. Ceoil (talk) 18:01, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:01, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

They are not stub links, THEY ARE REDIRECTS!!!!!!!! Ceoil (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No they aren't. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

May 2017
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 * Thanks for the warning. I've tried discussing this on the template's talk page, and I've stopped reverting. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:27, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I was recently blocked for edit warring for over-zealously trying to enforce certain policies, so be careful. Adam9007 (talk) 18:28, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Good advice, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:29, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Lorca Cohen for deletion
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Stop creating redirects
You really need to stop creating redirects. I see you have now created redirects to Katy Perry. Ones like Swish Swish are useless. It redirects to Katy Perry but the article does not talk about it. This is no different than all the ones you made to Francis Bacon (artist). They are not helpful and potentially harmful. ~ GB fan 17:59, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You make it sound as though the Bacon redirects were completely inappropriate. Really, they just needed to direct readers to List of paintings by Francis Bacon, where the paintings are mentioned. My bad, not a big deal. I created the Katy Perry redirects per Draft:Katy Perry's fifth studio album, but pages should not redirect to the draft space, so maybe redirecting to (and updating) List of songs recorded by Katy Perry would be better. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:06, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirecting the Francis Bacon paintings to List of paintings by Francis Bacon doesn't help. They are mentioned there but not discussed.  It would be better for them to be a red link until someone wants to start a proper article on them.  ~ GB fan 18:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * List of songs recorded by Katy Perry doesn't mention Swish Swish. ~ GB fan 18:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's agree to disagree. You do what you feel you need to do. I'm confident the Bacon redirects would be kept if nominated for deletion, and my life goes on just fine if they are deleted. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Head IV


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Your contributed article, Head V


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Speedy deletion nomination of Swish Swish


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Speedy deletion nomination of Swish Swish (song)


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Speedy deletion nomination of Swish Swish (Katy Perry song)


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Speedy deletion nomination of Bigger Than Me (Katy Perry song)


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Meetup Invitation
You are invited to the upcoming Asian Pacific American Heritage month edit-athon.

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March Against Hate listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect March Against Hate. Since you had some involvement with the March Against Hate redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. — JFG talk 01:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: April 2017
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You've been mentioned at ANI but not pinged
, I noticed you were not pinged. - Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 02:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah, I had to walk away from ANI and the redirects discussions, neither of which were really handled properly, IMO. I'm not even sure the redirect pages have been marked as nominated for deletion, so procedure hasn't been followed but I'm not wasting any more time on either discussion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


 * FYI, in order to ping a user in an existing thread, the timestamp needs to be updated also  -  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 18:45, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Poptastic
Do you think that could be listed as a pop song for the article? — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b> 17:56, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems appropriate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:57, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Just found one saying Euro-pop :) — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  17:58, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Punishment of Luxury
Thanks for helping out. Does the image look good enough? It looks a bit grainy but I don't know how I can fix this. Ta. Lisabeaton (talk) 16:56, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The image looks fine! Thanks for expanding this page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:11, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 1 listed at Redirects for discussion
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Robert Edward Lee Sculpture
Hi. Can you please deal with this? I don't have the patience for it. I think we should stick with The Guardian; nobody could accuse them of pro-Spencer bias!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:12, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Coachella - Woodstock in My Mind
Out of curiosity, what was your reasoning for redirecting it? It seemed notable, from my Google results, but I want to know your reasoning, if you could elaborate please. -- Aleccat  01:31, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, I redirected because the article was little more than an infobox and the song is not appearing on her upcoming album. I suppose I thought a non-album single made it less deserving of a standalone article until it has charted. I don't feel too strongly about the merge, so feel free to revert if you feel strongly, but I also recommend moving the content to Coachella – Woodstock in My Mind, which complies with Wikipedia's manual of style. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:22, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. -- Aleccat  03:02, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Bon Appétit (song)
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN
Greetings AB! Regarding your revert at 2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys, I have two remarks:
 * 1) Please read the WP:NOTBROKEN guideline, which is also aptly called WP:DONTFIXIT. Being able to link Joe Q. Bloggs instead of Joe Q. Bloggs is a key feature of redirects; such entries should generally be left alone.
 * 2) By restoring an edit that I had reverted, you have technically violated the (arguably cumbersome) DS restrictions on those "current politics" articles, which say you must not reinstate any challenged (via reversion) edits without obtaining consensus on the talk page of this article. It's not a big deal for what is essentially a matter of taste here, however you should be extra careful when editing this minefield: well-meaning editors have been blocked for single offenses… (Rest assured I'm not reporting this incident.) — JFG talk 23:20, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the reminders, and I don't feel strongly so feel free to undo my edit. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No: I would be violating 1RR if I did You can either self-revert (that's exempt) or let it go until someone else acts. — JFG talk 23:39, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Wikitribune
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Proposed deletion of Sunnyside United Methodist Church


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Nomination of Sunnyside United Methodist Church for deletion
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Reassess?
Could you reassess Caftan (Metropolitan Museum of Art)? I've expanded it, and it's no longer a stub. Thanks! - PKM (talk) 04:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Made a couple minor edits and voted to keep the article. Thanks for expanding the page, and good luck! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! - PKM (talk) 02:08, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of National Cannabis Summit


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on National Cannabis Summit requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Well done!
Hi Jason; I just wanted to say well done on getting Hands Across Hawthorne to FA status. I was unaware of the event until the article made the front page of Wikipedia today. If you are interested more broadly in U.S. LGBT themed articles, I have nominated Death of Leelah Alcorn for FAC; any comments would be appreciated, although no pressure if you are too busy or just not that interested! Again, great work with Hands Across Hawthorne. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:06, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I will be working on the Wiki Loves Pride 2017 campaign throughout the month of June, if you have any interest in contributing. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:04, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of 2017 Portland train attack for deletion
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