User talk:Casliber/Archive 36

Proposed poll
Re the caps and title case, I asked Aleandr and he says I should ask you about this. I am considering launching a new information poll at WT:TITLE, to get a better idea of where people stand on the changes that Born2cycle has proposed. I have drafted a poll in my user subpage at User:Dicklyon/Recognizability poll. I'd like to post this to WT:TITLE soon, if you think it won't be disruptive to the ongoing process. It might even solicit some opinions that people can cite in evidence. Does that seem like an OK idea? Dicklyon (talk) 16:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll take a proper look a little later today. Just on for bits and pieces momentarily. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Casliber I think your words are being used out of context, and perhaps you should look in detail at the discussions at WP:AT which have since last November discussing the use of capitals obliquely.


 * The question has repeatedly raised by Tony1 etc at Wikipedia talk:Article titles titles should include more wording to make it clear to a reader what the topic is about. But that raises lots of questions about AT, for which there has been a broad consensus for many years. During these discussions it became clear that there had been an edit to WP:AT last year that had been a simplification of the words that unintentionally had had changed the meaning of "Recognizability". It was proposed that this change be reverted. There is a detailed account of this at User:Born2cycle/DearElen.


 * There have been two polls on this specific point. The first one had a clear consensus and the second one was 17 in favour with no dissent for near identical wording: "Recognizability – Is the candidate title a recognizable name or description of the topic to someone familiar with (though not necessarily expert in) the topic?"
 * Poll 1 (21 December 2011) consensus that would be confirmed in poll 2 -- BTW notice who initiated poll 1 and that it was initiated although there was the same consensus emerging in the previous section.
 * Poll 2 (24 January 2012) 17 in favour no dissent.


 * Now your here is being used to justify another poll that does not include the wording that has clearly emerged as the consensus wording (and if I were not assuming good faith would say that it seems to be a repeat of the tactic used when poll 1 was launched). I have suggested that this most recent poll is collapsed as we clearly do not need another one and there is a perfectly good summary at User:Born2cycle/DearElen, and your comment is being used to justify continuing with the poll (hence I why I write I think that your words are begin taken out of context). -- PBS (talk) 23:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh dear....I need some time to digest all this....Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:27, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

FYI
All of the following species are worth 2x points; let me know if you'd be interested in collaborating in one or more for bonus points in a later round. Sasata (talk) 06:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Agaricus bisporus
 * Agaricus campestris
 * Amanita caesarea
 * Amanita citrina
 * Amanita pantherina
 * Amanita rubescens
 * Amanita virosa
 * Armillaria mellea
 * Coprinus comatus
 * Shiitake
 * Clitocybe nuda
 * Macrolepiota procera
 * Marasmius oreades
 * Pleurotus ostreatus
 * Phallus impudicus
 * Russula emetica
 * Suillus luteus
 * Hydnum repandum

Hahaha – thank heavens for European mushrooms :))) – yeah, I'd like to buff Clitocybe nuda (which was one of the yummiest mushrooms I've eaten), and we really should be improving the other mass-eaten edibles. Also I buffed the sickener for DYK so would be good to finish the job....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll move Clitocybe nuda and Russula emetica closer to the top of "the list". I agree the popular edibles would be good to do as well, but they're hard ... we'll see how free time & motivation plays out over the next few months. Sasata (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Core Contest
Is this still going on? I was looking into pulling together a team from WikiProject Connecticut on working on the project's namesake article, but I'm not seeing much activity and it's not clear how to sign up. –Grondemar 01:28, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes! No-one signs as such at the beginning, but submits articles with diffs at the end of the three week period (and yes, teams are allowed....after all we are promoting collaborative editing) I must tell the signpost....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:05, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * See, you get the idea. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, Casliber. I was just reading through Sue's talk page and saw reference to this contest. It sounds pretty exciting. I appreciate you putting the time and energy into it. I might try to join in in spirit - improve a core or article or two - in volunteer mode, although I wouldn't feel right participating officially. :) I just wanted to stop by and thank you for getting this going. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 11:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Kewl, we'll see how it goes. Others are also welcome to comment on contributions they feel are outstanding etc. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:48, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you think this is going to go? I'd thought I'd try to do a page, but am not seeing anyone else there. Does the entry need to be entered now, or at the end? Btw - you're page is formatting very strangely for me - I have to scroll way to the right to click to edit. Truthkeeper (talk) 04:43, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No don't need to "enter" as such, just submit completed material after the fact...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:06, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. For some reason I thought I had to do something. This is better - with work stacked up and all, I might not get much done, so less stress. Truthkeeper (talk) 12:58, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan FAC
Hi, I was advised by one of the reviewers to ask active FAC editors to review the Pakistan article's FAC at Featured article candidates/Pakistan/archive1‎. It has been out for nine days, the problems mentioned in the start were fixed but there have been no further comments. There was a question about a dispute that occurred after the nomination, I've explained about it on the FAC page that there's been no consensus for it on the talk page and the current version is as of consensus. Please take a look at the article and drop your review comments and/or vote. Thanks. -- lTopGunl (talk) 17:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah I'll take a look. nine days isn't unusually slow. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:08, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Didn't know, first nomination :) - Thanks. -- lTopGunl (talk) 22:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * main thing is to make sure all Nick-D's comments are dealt with. I'l drop by once that's done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:12, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure we're fixing those issues.. I think there are 3 weeks before FACs with no support votes get archived? So that's why asking users to check out and drop !votes. Hope fully Nick-D might change his after his objections are fixed (which are mostly done). -- lTopGunl (talk) 15:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

WP:V mediation step two
Hello, and thanks again for taking part in the MedCab mediation about Verifiability. I noticed that you haven't yet submitted a draft of the lede as I outlined in the instructions for step two, so I am just sending this message as a reminder. The deadline was 10:00 am (UTC) on Sunday, March 11, but as there are still eight drafts left to come in I am extending this by a day, to 10:00 am (UTC) on Monday, March 12. To recap, I would like you to draft your ideal version of the lead to the policy and post it on the mediation page, without any commentary. You can find the full instructions at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/27 February 2012/Wikipedia:Verifiability. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I would especially appreciate you getting in touch if you may have difficulty meeting the new deadline. Best wishes —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 13:52, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello again Casliber, this is to let you know that I am extending the deadline by another day, to 10:00 am (UTC) on Tuesday, March 13. This time, I'm going to go ahead without people who don't submit a draft before the deadline. Don't worry, though - If I progress without you, then it doesn't mean that I'm kicking you out, it just means that you will have to catch up when you are ready to participate again. Also, if you let me know that you will have problems submitting things on time, then I may be able to make concessions for you, so I would be grateful if you could do that rather than just leaving it until the deadline. Thanks —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 13:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

scheduling
We can we atleast schedule a date to spotcheck the sources? LittleJerry (talk) 17:00, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I was about to yesterday and stuff came up. Big stuff. Not sure. Free time is very patchy and unpredictable. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Take This Lollipop
Thanks for the notice. How long will the DYL remian on main page, and where might I access a version of the main page containing it, once the DYK rotates off?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I am no good on those technical things. Someone at the mainpage talkpage might be able to help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Spanish conquest of Guatemala FAC
Hi Casliber, I'm scratching around trying to dig up reviewers for Spanish conquest of Guatemala at FAC, since the review has stagnated. Any chance you could drop by at the review page? Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 19:15, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Simon - will take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Eucalyptus deanei
The DYK project (nominate) 22:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost NAN
Cas, I took the liberty of changing the "deadline" times to avoid chaos (lessons from ACE). And Sydney is 11, not 10 hours ahead of UTC, I think. Cheers. Tony  (talk)  14:39, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay. Sounds alright to me. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:40, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Black mamba
This is a decent article but it just needs a little tweeking. It would be a shame if it was delisted. It's well sourced, contains no original research. It's broad in its coverage, it's neutral and unbiased. Images are relevant to the topic and all are tagged with proper licenses. The prose is the biggest issue and I believe a little group effort put in and we'll have this article in shape in no time. There are some other issues with the article but nothing that can't be corrected or re-written. I left this message in the reassessment page: Talk:Black_mamba/GA2. Just thought I'd get somebody's attention because the article seems to have been ignored. Cheers! RedGKS talk contribs. 00:08, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Casliber, I'm about to block this editor indefinitely for socking. It's User:Sebastian80, the compulsive semi-herpetologist who can't say goodbye to the GA section. Anytime a new editor starts doing GAs there's cause for suspicion. Drmies (talk) 14:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * okay. I'll keep an eye out. I did actually plan on seeing what we could do with the article but other priorities have overridden....Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Noisy Miner
Well done on the FA star - it's much harder when there is a lot of published material to try to pull together. Marj (talk) 03:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But easier when there are two of us :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:57, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gaultheria depressa
Hello! Your submission of Gaultheria depressa at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  Supernova Explosion   Talk  07:55, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

The_Core_Contest
This is an excellent idea. If you get good results I am sure I can dig up some funding for repeat rounds. The scholarship in medicine that we at Wikimedia Canada offered did was unfortunately not a success. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


 * We could run a medical one too later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:34, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes and if we could base it on the group of articles found here Book:Health_care as they are going to be translated per this project here MED/Translation_project -- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for reviving this! I helped Danny out a bit with the last one - I think it's an excellent initiative.  Sadly I'm too busy IRL to contribute, but good luck!  Walkerma (talk) 02:18, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Heh, no problemo. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Shikigami
Hi there. I have re-written this lil´ article using good literature. Would ya mind to keep yer eyes on it? Regards; --Nephiliskos (talk) 23:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have also re-written the article Susuwatari by replacing it with an well referenced text. Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 21:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Will take a look at both. Been busy +++ Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:25, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for yer work! And because all good things are three, look: I have also enriched the article Nekomata. ;-) Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 00:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gaultheria depressa
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Small edit request?
Hey Cas, as the WP:CIV page is still locked, would you be so kind as to insert three words for me, in the second para of the lede? (we know there's already consensus for this).

"It applies to all editors and all interaction on Wikipedia"

Cheers, <span style="color:#003300; font-family: Apple Chancery, Zapf Chancery, cursive;">Pesky  (<span style="color:#003300; font-family:Papyrus, Noteworthy;">talk ) 05:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Better than that - I've dropped protection back to semi- as folks are talking on the talk page. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. <span style="color:#003300; font-family: Apple Chancery, Zapf Chancery, cursive;">Pesky  (<span style="color:#003300; font-family:Papyrus, Noteworthy;">talk ) 09:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You might want to consider what to do now ... ;P <span style="color:#003300; font-family: Apple Chancery, Zapf Chancery, cursive;">Pesky  (<span style="color:#003300; font-family:Papyrus, Noteworthy;">talk ) 18:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you think you could have a look at this?
— M. Mario  (T/C) 10:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I choose ALT1, the one with Holly crying, etc, so could you put it forward to the queues now? — M.Mario  (T/C) 13:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * it really does need to go to the front of the queue now. — M.Mario  (T/C) 13:02, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

The maroons' painter
Thank you - for taking the painter of my main page image to prep - with the broader picture, a gallery, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The painter was good for 2401 hits yesterday for the inspirational people under oppressive conditions, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Rwanda FAC
Hi Casliber

Just to say that I have had a look at your final point at Featured article candidates/Rwanda/archive2 regarding the foreign relations, and expanded the paragraph a bit with references to France and Uganda. This part actually proved harder than I thought it would as there is not a vast amount of published literature, and I was worried that it would end up sounding like a series of bullet points if I tried to detail the histories of relations with every country. Would be interested to hear your views now, anyway. I'm reasonably hopeful at the moment that the FAC might be successful as all other points raised seem to be satisfactorily resolved now. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:58, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Banksia oblongifolia
The DYK project (nominate) 01:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Coronidium elatum
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:59, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Precious

 * ¡muy bien! - oh, wrong language.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:39, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I like approval in any language (and Spanish goes well with Pitta) for the determination linked above: "I reflected rejected and goodwill, and start here to change the place, to make you consider to return." (which has not happened - the return I mean, to be precise, and probably will not happen, quote: "returning under that account would probably not be a pleasant experience") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * sigh...err..yeah. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Danke, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the credit of another personal DYK, ... that Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau was the soloist in a recording of Max Reger's Requiem with the Monteverdi-Chor Hamburg in 1990! DFD was the first singer to impress me for life, and I sang in the premiere of the organ version of the Requiem, "Seele, vergiss sie nicht" (Soul, don't forget them) in the Marktkirche, will never forget that experience. I wrote the Reqiuem article, and some of the church, did you know? I collect the personal ones on my user, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Passion: He was despised --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You know that I wrote "he was despised" when BarkingMoon left, "rejected", and someone commented "how appropriate to the situation at hand it is"? I still miss him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Learning about Germany, I didn't know this: Frohe Ostern! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice eggs. All the German stuff is great :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:47, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 10,000 on my talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 10,000 eggs approved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the delivery of good history, eggs and Bach cantata, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary
'''Wishing User: a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">Let's talk <sub style="color:#008000;">about my edits? 22:09, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Core Contest
Hi I just spotted you had revived this but appears too late. I proposed to Jimbo and the foundation a while back to introduce a Core Contest for Article of the Month every month funded by the foundation. the core contest motivated us to slog our guts out to produce whopping articles like Deforestation in Brazil, Middle Ages etc. I think if it was well advertised it would lure in new contributors and also get more of the regulars working on the most important articles. I see you have Sue Gardner on board as a judge, but is the current contest funded by Wikimedia Australia or something or the main foundation? Because its something I'm very interested in helping promoting and think it would be of great benefit to article growth and improvement. But it has to be well advertised!♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah well, see here - it was supposed to run in Jan but...well you can see. Anyway, I guffed by not getting something in the signpost. This was a sort of "suck it and see what happens" sorta thing. Once the deadline has passed, we'll have a look at what got improved and stuff and have a think methinks....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:32, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou so much for doing that. I think Amazon vouchers as a prize would be the most value though as editors can buy books to use as a sources and feed back into the project. The core articles of course are priority but I was also thinking about a similar DYK of the Month scheme to try to attract new editors and more articles! Yes, the thing is is advertising. We need to publicize it as much as possible. The fact I wasn't even aware of it says something.. I would say if we advertised it in a banner at the top of pages like a "Fancy winning $xxx of Amazon vouchers? Then enter our monthly Core Contest competition and have a go at writing! I think we need something catchy to reel in new editors.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:28, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I've been undecided about how much to promote the reward thing....but we'll see how it goes anyway...my thinking was different themes at different times, so Women's article...systemic bias etc. as ideas for other ones. Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:14, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Eucalyptus aggregata
The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 March newsletter
We are over half way through the second round of this year's WikiCup and things are going well! , of Pool B, is our highest overall scorer thanks to his prolific writings on television and film. In second place is Pool H's, thanks primarily to work on biological articles, especially in marine biology and herpetology. Third place goes to Pool E's, who also writes primarily on biology (including ornithology and botany) and has already submitted two featured articles this round. Of the 63 contestants remaining, 15 (just under a quarter) have over 100 points this round. However, 25 are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly. 32 contestants, the top two from each pool and the 16 next-highest scorers, will advance to round 3.

Congratulations to, whose impressive File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg became the competition's first featured picture. Also, congratulations to, who claimed good topic points, our first contestant this year to do so, for his work on Featured topics/1982 Atlantic hurricane season. This leaves featured topics and featured portals as the only sources of points not yet utilised. However, as recent statistics from show, no source has yet been utilised this competition to the same extent it has been previously!

It has been observed that the backlogs at good article candidates are building up again. While the points for good article reviews will be remaining constant, any help that can be offered keeping the backlog down would be appreciated. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 23:14, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Harassment of editors and Arbcom transparency
On my talk page at User_talk:Russavia, there is a discussion between myself and your fellow Arb User:AGK, concerning an issue which came to the attention of Arbcom. As the various links and diffs show, many editors saw the recent RFC/U against User:Fae as harassment, at best, and as homophobic harassment, at worst.

AGK firstly stated that he "voted" to ban Delicious Carbuncle, then has "corrected" himself to state that he merely was in favour of the Committee reviewing the case; either way there was opposition on the Committee to either banning Delicious Carbuncle or even reviewing the harassment that Fae was being subjected to.

As an Arb, the community elected you to represent the community for the community. The Committee time and time again pushes on editors who come before it that transparency is essential in our editing; in fact, transparency is one of the key tenets of this project, however the Arbcom often does not act in the same transparent way that it (and the community) expects of the community itself.

AGK states on my talk page that one can only expect a transparent hearing if a request for arbitration is filed, and states that most Arbcom business is conducted this way. This notion is somewhat correct, but it is also very wrong. As the committee time and time makes a point of stating that community transparency is essential, the community also expects the same of the Committee -- at all times. The Committee also makes many decisions "behind closed doors", and when pushed to explain decisions cites various "get out of jail free cards" to avoid being transparent to the community-at-large. This includes decisions such as banning editors for things done offwiki which can't clearly be attributed to that editor, or unbanning editors with a history of socking, etc, etc.

In aid of this, and in the interests of transparency to the Community at large, I am asking that you answer the following questions:


 * 1) Did you discuss the harassment of Fae on the Arbcom-l mailing list?
 * 2) If you did discuss this on the mailing list, were you in favour or against the Committee reviewing the information?
 * 3) If the discussion got to anything resembling a vote, did you vote in favour or against banning Delicious Carbuncle?

These are very simple questions which one is able to answer if they are truly for transparency both on the Committee and in the community in general, and I would expect that many in the community would be wanting transparent answers to these questions.

The last thing, it is of course Fae's choice if he wishes to request a case for Arbitration, but these questions are not being asked to have an end-run around the Arbitration process, but are being asked in the interests of transparency on a specific example that the Committee was aware of and refused to act upon. I would expect Fae and other editors (especially LGBT editors) would be wanting transparent answers here now, before deciding if they wish to act. Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 07:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * (1) yes, (2) consensus on whether we're arbcom or govcom varies (ie.e dispute resolution vs user conduct review/both/which takes precedence) is still undecided. There are times that we'd accept cases if people requested a case, where we've not sprung one de novo so to speak (3) the issue here is a complex one in which evidence really needs to be examined systematically before proper decisions can be made - I only glanced at some stuff, and lacking anyone referring it to us didn't look further. Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answers Casliber, but can you please clarify your answers to 2) and 3), as they are asking whether you as an individual Arb opined for or against particular course of action, rather than on the general role of Arbcom as a group. Thanks Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 09:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (2) Had someone requested a case, I would have accepted, given the complexity of it. (3) I deleted the threads from my inbox and have not yet resubscribed to look at the archives. My recall is that I initially thought (or posted) leaning in favour of a ban, but after reading bits and pieces realised I was going to have to do a whole lot of reading myself to figure where I stood. When one can actually wield a banhammer, and one is faced with the prospect of using it, one (well I do anyway) become alot more circumspect if there are grey areas to consider...and there are some here. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * NB: I'd like to have an RfC on the structure of RfCs - the lack of oppose sections means we have no idea about whether non-support indicates genuine opposition or just boredom/disinterest. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for being so forthright and honest with your answers here Casliber; it is appreciated. I am sure that at the end of the day there is going to be some much needed critique of Arbcom, which is going to have to be considered -- remembering of course that critique isn't necessarily a negative thing.


 * Also, great DYK directly below here, I went thru that area some 20 years ago. Looking back, probably be unable to do that again these days....I'm getting old :( Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 21:46, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Blue Gum Forest, Blue Mountains
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I love trees. Hope you like my rough bitter-sweet appr of your BarkingApple, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Angophora floribunda
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Great Tew Circle
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Tufted Tit-Tyrant Etymology
Hello. I've been working on the Tufted Tit-Tyrant article and was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at the bird's scientific name, Anairetes parulus, and figure out the etymology. Also, while I can guess where the subspecific names aequatorialis and patagonicus come from, would you be able to reference their meanings? Thank you for your time. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 07:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look in the morning. Bookshelf with possibly helpful books is in room with sleeping people in it....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. While you are in there, would you mind looking at the Long-tailed Ground Roller's scientific name, Uratelornis chimaera? Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 16:59, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey. I don't want to pester you, but do you know when you'll be able to take a look at this? I know Jimfbleak raised the lack of translation as a nitpick at the Long-tailed Ground Roller's FAC. Thank you. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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JSTOR
(Cross posting to everyone who commented in the JSTOR discussion on WT:FAC)

I have now created Requests for JSTOR access. Feel free to sign up. Raul654 (talk) 20:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * thanks for the heads up - I have JSTOR access already (now where is my coffee....) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Some plants needing IDs
Hi Cas, I'd already let Melburnian know about my unidentified plant uploads from the Geraldton/Dongara/Kalbarri region at this Commons category, but I'd also welcome your input. Thanks in advance :) Orderinchaos 09:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

American Robin
Hi, Casliber! On 19 January 2008 you made this edit to American Robin, whose accuracy I have challenged on the article's talk page. Could you take a look at it and check whether the source really says this? Thanks! Duoduoduo (talk) 14:42, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Two
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Aboleth
Hello,

Since you participated in the deletion discussion for Medusa (Dungeons & Dragons), Lamia (Dungeons & Dragons), or Ankheg in 2011, I wanted to alert you that Aboleth is now up for AFD. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 00:17, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

HighBeam Research
HI Cas, and anyone else watching

You may not be aware that HighBeam Research a pay for use search engine is offering Wikipedians free access subject to some basic criteria I didnt see your name on the list given the amount of work you've done already I thought you'd benefit from gaining access see HighBeam/Applications Gnangarra 04:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Have been really busy and not really looked into it. I get a pretty good selection via UNSW, but I might have a look at the list of titles available. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:59, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

greetings
Frohe Ostern! :D Cheers! --Nephiliskos (talk) 14:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Telopea truncata
The DYK project (nominate) 09:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Congratulations Casliber. Another Waratah hits the pages. You and JJ are a powerful team! Whiteghost.ink 13:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ...and there'll be another in a few days too :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Alloxylon flammeum
Did you intend to use an image in your DYK nomination for Alloxylon flammeum? There seems to be an image with a red caption to the right of the nomination but it is not used in the article and it is not apparent from the hook that an image is part of the nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:10, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * My bad. Fixed now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your support at my RfA. I will do my best to live up to people's confidence in me. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Cartonema
Hi there. I was wondering if you might have any photos of the Australian/New Guinean endemic genus Cartonema, or know anyone that might. I've been wanting to start some species specific articles in this genus, but I really would prefer to have photos first. Thanks! <span style="color:#008000;font-family:times, sans serif;">DJLayton4 (talk) 20:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Gosh, never heard of them. Err, is in WA, but not sure if he's ever taken a photo of one. Can only ask :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Poor Commelinaceae; always ignored! Thanks for passing on Gnagarra's name; I'll give it a shot :-) <span style="color:#008000;font-family:times, sans serif;">DJLayton4 (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Rollback request
Hi Casliber! I would like to request rollback rights, as WikiProject Brazil will need members capable of handle some tasks (such as reverting vandalism, rapidly). Kind regards; <b style="font-size:small; font-family:vivaldi; color:black;">Felipe Menegaz</b> 21:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, done. take a look now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:28, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I'm working to reactivate WikiProject Brazil and this will be very helpful when the project is ready. Cheers; <b style="font-size:small; font-family:vivaldi; color:black;">Felipe Menegaz</b> 21:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nelepsittacus
The DYK project (nominate) 00:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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Rwanda
Hi Casliber

Just to say thank you for your detailed review and criticism during the Rwanda FAC. Feels like it was quite a long road, but I think the article is much better for your input, and I'm glad to be finally celebrating its promotion! All the best &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Goodness
Whatever that is about, it seems to need the attention of a checkuser, sysop, or resident psych. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 07:53, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, aware of it. sigh. Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:36, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK Review Question
Hi, I'm finishing up my first DYK review, and I just wanted to check and make sure I'm doing it right. I reviewed the article Losh, Wilson and Bell, nominated on March 21. See the review at Template:Did you know nominations/Losh, Wilson and Bell. After approving a hook, I added the hook and image to the queue at Prep area 4. Is there anything else I need to do? Alternately, did I overstep anything? Thanks. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The process was fine - there are a several references that need formatting, and is not a Reliable Source I'd think. I suspect something has been published somewhere that the writer can replace with.


 * I often just roll up my sleeves and format the refs myself if they're simple. Anyway, just tidy (or get the writer to tidy) the refs. The other main issue is checking that the text reflects the sources but does not paraphrase them. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:46, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool, thanks. Boneyard90 (talk) 22:12, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Sweet Home (video game)
Hi. Could you help me, please? I had re-written the article, it now needs some corrections with grammar and stuff, I think. Cheers; --Nephiliskos (talk) 20:34, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Nephiliskos, why did you completely remove the inline references for the legacy section? Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Better? Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 22:07, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * what was wrong with Thor Jensen in reception? I'd just combine into preceding section and make it Reception and legacy so all material can be in one place. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:12, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Restored.^^ Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 22:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Minnesota State Highway 7
 Imzadi 1979  →   04:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)  23:14, April 14, 2012‎
 * Ping  Imzadi 1979  →   04:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ping again.  Imzadi 1979  →   07:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Banksia aspleniifolia
Hi, I saw your change to the "nomen dubium" statement on the Banksia oblongifolia page, and am still puzzled. The description looks okay, I think, it includes some leaf shape description, at least, so it isn't one of those "the plant is pretty" or "it has a different DNA sequence" problems that don't qualify as descriptions. The paragraph on the wikipedia page is still, I think, difficult to read, so it would be good to rephrase it or shorten it. What did you decide the problem was with the description? Thanks. Nadiatalent (talk) 21:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It wasn't me that had a problem with the Description but Alex George who published a monograph of the genus in 1981. He wrote that the description of the leaves was insufficient to diagnose the species as the description could apply to some other species found in the same area. Furthermore the material that was used for the description has been lost, so it is unclear whether what Salisbury had was oblongifolia anyway. All australian authorities have followed George thereafter in this. Given our role at wikipedia is to reflect/report opinion and not create it, that's what I've done (personally I liked the name aspleniifolia...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, I am glad you brought that up - as I had not realised it mentions the leaves are hairy underneath. The other issue is how Salisbury was perceived (i.e. negatively) on account of his getting Brown's work and publishing it before Brown himself and trumping him on names. I might ask Peter Weston and Alex George about it...hmmm. 21:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think there is still a problem here, as it sounds as if Salisbury's names are being ignored, but they are actually validly published according to the code. I don't see Salisbury's work listed in Appendix VI or the names listed as rejected. The original wording about nomen dubium seems to be correct, but completely out-of-date because the situation would be in need of nomenclatural action. Nadiatalent (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The phrase used in the text is " he concluded that it does not diagnose the species to the exclusion of others and is hence not a validly published name" - i.e. George concluded it is not a valid name as if it is, then it has precedence. I'm guessing it is nomen illegitimum on basis of 6.4 something here, but none of the links fit really. The issue is 32.2. "A diagnosis of a taxon is a statement of that which in the opinion of its author distinguishes the taxon from other taxa." - now, George feels that the description is insufficient diagnosis, which is a prerequisite for valid publication, yet there is not link to what it should be called if it fails this criterion....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:51, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Alloxylon flammeum
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Rollback removal
Hello, Cas;

Could you remove my rollback? I only ever end up using it accidentally, trying to click "Undo" on a slow computer. Thanks! J. Spencer (talk) 00:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Done - any of your old GAs you want to push to the next level after a break from looking at them? Happy to help kick-start/review some if you want a push. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:17, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I hadn't really thought about it. Honestly, I haven't been that interested in it for a while. J. Spencer (talk) 01:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe polishing off Gryposaurus? - might be nice to promote that one. Sometimes it's good revisiting after a few years for a fresh look, polish up, add and expand so it is exhaustive and send to FAC (?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Western Jackdaw
Yesterday I had an editing conflict with you when working on the Etymology section of Western Jackdaw. I tend to make all the alterations in a paragraph or section before saving it which makes a conflict more likely. I propose restricting my editing of the article to the morning here - in practice that means times between 6.00 and 12.00 as recorded in the "History" of the article. If we cooperate on this it will prevent conflicts and unnecessary duplication. An alternative would be for me to edit the article during the 18.00 to 21.00 slot but I usually work on new articles at this time, my evening. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that. I usually do lots of little edits. Rather than use set times, you can stick this template - Template:Under construction at the top of the page just before you edit and I will leave it until you take it down. Does that sound easier? Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I will probably stick to my evening when you are likely to be asleep. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright. I am in Sydney FWIW. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

R&I Review
While I remember, may I trouble you please to review your oppose here? I've tweaked the wording. Roger Davies talk 13:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Melville_Island_(Nova_Scotia)
Added some more geography; anything you can think of that might be missing? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:49, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it is within striking distance. Only thing maybe is more detail on what is on the island now. I'm not sure I get a clear sense of that from the article. Also, we should be able to get some images...? Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Solaris
wants me to seek your approval of the request I've made at Talk:Solaris (2002_film). To be honest, I have no dog in this hunt: I thought I was being helpful. But as an IP editor I realize I sometimes have to jump through extra hoops. If you don't approve, no worries. Thanks, 72.244.206.162 (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Abuse Filter on the Article Feedback Tool
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Sweet Home (video game)
I need yer help as administrator. A user named "Niemti" has replaced my re-work completely with the old version without seeking talk with me before doing that. All my hard work is ruined. --Nephiliskos (talk) 10:40, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Nephiliskos, looking at the changes you made first up, I am not entirely surprised hat someone reverted. Why did you make that change in the first place and remove chunks of cited and nicely laid-out content? Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I tried to present a clearly lined-up content, easy to follow and well-referenced. The old version was full of redundations and some of the sources were questionable. I have no problem with discussing about workings, but I´m not sure if it had been just a sign of good manners, if ye talk with the editor first and tell him about yer doubts or simply smash down other user´s work, no matter how "good" or "bad" it was. At least Niemti could have informed me. --Nephiliskos (talk) 12:46, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, well what to do now....why not open discussion on the talk and raise particular concerns about certain references there? Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Cognitive behavioral therapy
Ok, I've put boatloads of hours into trying to clean up the mess that was there. It's still not great, but at least it's not horribly inaccurate. I think I've removed all inappropriate uses of primary sources, I can't do anything with "History", but I hope treatment text is now at least not misleading. If you have a time, could you glance at it? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 16:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * yeah alright . Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:52, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Eucalyptus robusta
Hi, letting you know that I reviewed this and there's just one small thing - I think you have the wrong page for the Boland ref. Other than that, I'm ready to tick it. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Biographies of living persons
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DYK for Eucalyptus robusta
Materialscientist (talk) 16:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Syzygium cormiflorum
Materialscientist (talk) 08:05, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks Cas for reviewing Bal des Ardents. Your review made me laugh - but also good suggestions (one of which I've just realized I haven't fixed!). Truthkeeper (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Caption answer awaits
I answered your question at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Captions. Sorry it took so long! -- ke4roh (talk) 21:47, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Conflict resolution
People started editing and re-editing the genre for the band Combichrist so to avoid an editing war, I placed a tag by the genre and asked users to sort it on the main page. 89.244.71.38 (Who keeps changing their IP, and has stated so) has ignored the request and reverts the edit each and every time I ask hin to sort it on the talk page. He's been abusive on the talk page, and has said he'll keep reverting the edits, rather than debate the issue properly, as an adult. Each attempt has been ignored, so I'd like to request semi protection for the Combichrist page so it can't be abused by random ip's like the user has been doing, as it's the only way to end the editing war and stop him posting abuse. Thanks. Alinblack (talk) 23:48, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * damn, sorry Alinblack, I was hopping on- and offline in bits and pieces so read this then got distracted. Looks like someone has semirpotected it so hope that works. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

FAC
I'm looking for FACs to review ... is there a special reason the Banksia article has not been transcluded? Sasata (talk) 16:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)


 * D'oh! (wondered why it was so quiet...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:39, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
The Bushranger One ping only 22:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Mount Oxley New South Wales
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DYK for Thomas M. Messer
Thanks for letting me know that Messer went to DYK. I had no idea that it was nominated! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:29, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Diphlebia euphoeoides
Orlady (talk) 16:04, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Diphlebia coerulescens
Orlady (talk) 16:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Sadock 2002
Hi Cas. I just did a clean up at Depression (mood) and noticed that a while back you cited the above but didn't add the actual text details. Do you by any chance remember which title you were referring to? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Aah yes, it'll be Sadock and Sadock psychiatry which has to be......that one Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 03:48, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
Well done on the new featured article Ficus obliqua. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 03:16, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, got another on the way Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:25, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Western Jackdaw
Please see the comment I have made on the GA review page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:13, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting we might work together on Pelican or did you have another editor lined up for collaboration?
 * Both pelican and jackdaw have 3x multipliers, I think. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:36, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (a) anyone is welcome to roll up their sleeves and hoe in (b) 3x multipliers? even better.......Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm game. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:27, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, bombs away then...watch this space. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Since the term pelican is generic, should we use lower case for pelicans in general and upper case where referring to a specific species? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's what we do. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:33, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Sydney meetup
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Did you know nominations/business
Template:Did you know nominations/business: Reviewed this DYK, I also closed it due to mentioned reason. Is it fine? -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 09:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Pelican
I was looking for what I could find on pelicans only known from fossils and I came across this book. Either the Wikipedia article Pelican is plagiarized from the book or the book, published in 2008, used the Wikipedia article verbatim. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There are books which harvest wikipedia articles and free content. I think the mobilereference company is one of them. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:07, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Kowmung River
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/Casliber
Please note my small change- you're welcome to claim it next round. J Milburn (talk) 21:06, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. head start next round then. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Oz journal article request
Hi Cas, any chance you could send me at your convenience? Sasata (talk) 17:36, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * sent. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:55, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Sasata (talk) 22:31, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 April newsletter
Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on The X-Files, but also Millennium and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's  coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.

65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, our first featured picture, was the work of both and, the latter of whom has also gone on to score with File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, earned triple points for her good articles on William the Conqueror and the Middle Ages, Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on Western Jackdaw, now a good article,  earned triple points for her work on lettuce and work by  to ready antimony for good article status earned him triple points. managed to expand Vitus Bering far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year.

An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank and, for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 23:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hakea dohertyi
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Email

 * I've replied to the mail. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  02:27, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Western Jackdaw FA process
I have fixed a couple of things but have left you to deal with explaining why this is a reliable source. It looks OK to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:52, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Red-tailed Black Cockatoo
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The Red-tailed Black Cockatoo is a large cockatoo native to Australia. It is more common in the drier parts of the continent. Five subspecies are recognised, differing most significantly in beak size. Although the more northerly subspecies are widespread, the two southern subspecies are under threat. Adult Red-tailed Black Cockatoos are around 60 centimetres (24 in) in length and sexually dimorphic. Males are completely black in colour, excepting their prominent red tail bands; the slightly smaller females are black with yellow barring on chest with yellow grading to red spots over their crest, cheeks and wings and have yellow-orange tail stripes. The species is usually found in eucalyptus woodlands, or along water courses. In the more northerly parts of the country, these cockatoos are commonly seen in large flocks. They are seed eaters and cavity nesters. As such, they depend on trees with fairly large diameters, generally Eucalyptus. Populations in southeastern Australia are threatened by the reduction in forest cover and by other habitat alterations. Of the black cockatoos, the red-tailed black is the most adaptable to aviculture, although black cockatoos are much rarer and much more expensive outside Australia. (more...) UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Nit pick
Sorry to be nit-picky, but with regard to your comment here, please note that I've produced three featured articles in addition to the GA you mentioned - one of which, as I've said here, I produced specifically to demonstrate an ability to work effectively in a emotive, conflicted topic area. Also, wouldn't the 63 DYKs I've written count as "audited content"? Prioryman (talk) 17:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Ye-eah, mostly (depending on which editor you ask as we both know there are sections of the community with a less-than-sanguine opinion on DYK). Previously it did help that Jayjg had well and truly done a heap of stuff (one or maybe two FAs (???)) - need to dig that out of the archives somewhere.....punting effort deep into net positive territory is a plus in situations like this...damn I should be replying over there....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:52, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I think this is the discussion about Jayjg that you mentioned: . It's a very comparable case - I remember reading it at the time and I've followed pretty much the same approach. Prioryman (talk) 23:17, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pittosporum angustifolium
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:06, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * How weird! I could have sworn that "angustifolium" was a spelling mistake. I thought all plants with this sort of name were called "augustifolium". Well, live and learn. What else is angustifolium? Whiteghost.ink (talk) 05:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Aaah yes. Lucky we aren't writing in some cursive script....Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:10, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pelecanus schreiberi
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mount Oxley (New South Wales)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

R&I Review
I've just re-organised the Fofs chronologically and noticed that you seem to have skipped this one - Feragho and Occam are topic banned - and was wondering whether it was intentional. Roger Davies talk 12:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Acacia macradenia
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Agalinis paupercula
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC) 16:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Depression (mood)
Hi. Somebody has raised some pertinent questions on Talk:Depression (mood). I'm not sure I agree, but I think they deserve a better informed response than I can offer. I've had serious concerns about the article all along. I've been trying to keep it a simple directory to the relevant articles, but feel there's something not quite right about using DSM/ICD descriptions from the syndromes to define the mood. Don't know. Anyway, if you have any thoughts, they'd be very welcome. Maybe, if there's substantial literature on dysphoria, we could use that for the basis of the definition of the mood - they seem to be interchangeable terms. Don't know. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 03:00, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Muhlenbergia capillaris
Hi for Template:Did you know nominations/Muhlenbergia capillaris I am looking for some more cite tags at the end of paragraphs in Muhlenbergia capillaris to advance this DYK. I trust that you have the knowledge on hand to complete this task! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:30, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Casey Hayward DYK
Hey there, now that the issue with Casey has been resolved can you go ahead and approve the article? Regards -- SKATER  Is Back 12:21, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Roman Polanski Arbcom
I posted a reply on the Roman Polanski matter in Arbcom: Arbitration/Requests/Case Psalm84 (talk) 15:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Rosa blanda
Carabinieri (talk) 00:03, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Acacia pubescens
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination
Hi Casliber. Could you look into this DYK nomination? It was promoted to prep 3 by you, but another admin found two lines with CV. The problem has been fixed since then, but I think the nomination is not in the list of those for reviewing currently.  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  16:10, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about missing that. Will get to it later today. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:59, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

French people
Hi, the picture is representing the French Marie Sklodowska Curie (she is from Poland!!), who lives in France. Is not this a bug? What do you think? Top811 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:53, 13 May 2012 (UTC).


 * I had not seen that before...hmmm...I guess she illustrates naturalised French people? I must admit I haven't edited or had an interest in the article previously. Maybe raise it on the talk page or look through the archives. These articles often end up with extended discussion about who is in the infobox. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Western Jackdaw
I am in agreement with Andrew Gray that by using lower case letters for jackdaw but uppercase for Western Jackdaw the article is anomalous. To say "A jackdaw and a Rook" seems wrong. Would it be a good thing to capitalise jackdaw throughout the article? I'll be happy to do so if you think this would be best. Alternatively we could replace "jackdaw" with "Western Jackdaw" throughout the article or "Western Jackdaw" and "jackdaw" with "Jackdaw" throughout. (I tend to think the last idea might be the best - the bird to me is a jackdaw not a western jackdaw, a term I have never met before.)

On another matter, I am concerned by the alterations being made by Ornithodiez to the article Pelican. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:15, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * We've had this problem on American White Ibis and White Stork among other birds....let me compare the pages..I meant to read some of the sources for pelican to get my head around them. Hackett was a landmark one but some taxonomists had problems with it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Orites excelsus
Carabinieri (talk) 08:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Cactus ready for re-nomination for GA?
I've basically finished working on Cactus; there's always extra that could be added but I think all the main topics are covered. Growers will always want more (and sometimes add poorly sourced bits I have to remove), but I believe what is there now is adequate and is within WP:NOTMANUAL.

I'd welcome another view on whether it should now be re-nominated for GA. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Peter, the article looks fantastic, nice work! Yes, put it up for GAN (I may review it myself). Sasata (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, go for it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks to you both for encouragement. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: cockatoo
This is a note to let the main editors of cockatoo know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on May 16, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/May 16, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director or his delegate, or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:



A cockatoo is any of the 21 species belonging to the bird family Cacatuidae. Along with the Psittacoidea (true parrots) and the Strigopoidea (large New Zealand parrots), they make up the parrot order Psittaciformes. Cockatoos are instantly recognisable by their showy crests and curved bills. Their plumage is generally less colourful than that of other parrots, being mainly white, grey, or black, and often with coloured features in the crest, cheeks, or tail. On average they are larger than other parrots. Cockatoos prefer to eat seeds, tubers, corms, fruit, flowers and insects. They often feed in large flocks, particularly when ground-feeding. Cockatoos are monogamous and nest in tree hollows. Some cockatoo species have been adversely affected by habitat loss, particularly from a shortage of suitable nesting hollows after large mature trees are cleared; conversely, some species have adapted well to human changes and are considered agricultural pests. Cockatoos are popular birds in aviculture, but their needs are difficult to cater for. The Cockatiel is the cockatoo species that is easiest to care for and is by far the most frequently kept in captivity. (more...) UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I liked that a lot! You said you like German things? See my talk for today's collection - I archived Easter and swamp, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review Request
Hey Casliber! I'm working on getting Aaron Rodgers up to GA, maybe even FA. Would you mind conducting a peer review for me before I put it up to GA?-- SKATER  Is Back 02:22, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Adriatic Sea
Hi! Thank you very much for taking time to perform GA review of the Adriatic Sea article. Your comments helped improve the article and I appreciate your effort.--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:00, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. A nice read and I hope to see it at FAC sometime soon Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:27, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Also, are you going to look over Aaron Rodgers? Never got a response :p  SKATER  Is Back 02:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Heck - been busy ++++. Began looking over it.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries mate, take your time. Was just wondering. -- SKATER  Is Back 03:50, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied on the peer review, I really appreciate you looking over it :). Wish I had a better eye for detail.-- SKATER  Is Back 07:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Muhlenbergia capillaris
Yngvadottir (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A note of thanks
Thank you for taking up the copyediting task of Mysore. Please continue to post your questions in the FARC entry, and we'll try to address them and update you there. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:54, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:TRIPLE/NOM
Is this page still active? Many nominations are still in the queue. &mdash; Vensatry <sub style="color:indigo;">(Ping me)  07:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Gosh, we've been asleep at the wheel....I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:38, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for responding. &mdash; Vensatry <sub style="color:indigo;">(Ping me)  03:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do the rest in the next few days. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Krod Mandoon disrupting arbcom pages
Hi Cas. Please can you look at this report Sockpuppet investigations/Echigo mole. The user is obviously a sockpuppet, trolling on arbcom pages, and, from his edits, is almost certainly a sockpuppet of Echigo mole. He might have decided to borrow somebody else's mobile phone just to complicate things. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 21:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, been very busy today - looks like this has been sorted. Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review
Hey Casliber, I know you've been busy but I was just wondering if that was all that you could find wrong with Aaron Rodgers and if I was good to put it up for a GA nom. If you aren't that's perfectly fine, just new to the process :).-- SKATER  Is Back 18:05, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK prep to queue
Casliber, I wanted to remind you to bump the prep count after you've moved one or more prep areas into queues, so that the next prep area to be promoted is shown first, rather than leaving the just-moved (and now empty) prep areas at the top of the preps list. Thanks for keeping the queues stocked! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * D'oh....knew I forgot something.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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Faisal bin Abdullah DYK
Thanks Casliber for your support.Egeymi (talk) 17:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dichelachne crinita
Hello! Your submission of Dichelachne crinita at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Chris857 (talk) 02:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * One small issue remains over a sentence in the lead. Chris857 (talk) 03:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cyclotosaurus
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Nicolo Giraud
would you please watchlist this? (asking because I know you're familiar with FA stuff) — Ched : ?  11:24, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

My undo
Hi, I didn't realise it was the opening section. Which on most articles isn't referenced. Apologies.--Chip123456 (talk) 20:47, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I also. Think that when somebody adds information to Wikipedia, they should add the reference with it to avoid this happening! Apologies for the quick revert.--Chip123456 (talk) 20:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to take more care reverting people. At least have a look at the material. You could even try looking for references yourself. Casliber (talk · contribs)
 * When I joined Wikipedia, and added Unreferenced parts, I was told that I needed to find references before I add any information, which I have carried through until today. I do the same to other users, so I don't see why this should be different. I'm again, very sorry if I've caused any distress through the revert. --Chip123456 (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So don't play tit-for-tat and take it out on others. This place is supposed to be collaborative, not prodding others with some sort of deletion-stick. Can you see this is only going to annoy others and so on and so on?Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * And thank you for the constructive criticism.--Chip123456 (talk) 21:01, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this is the time to say what you wrote on the article was great. Hope I'm not prodding you, just following the policies/guidelines. I was just reverting it because that is what I was told to do when I joined. So, always give people 3-4 minutes after to add the source. I don't get the tit-for-tat bit, because I wasn't trying to do that or annoy you. Thank you again, for your feedback.--Chip123456 (talk) 06:50, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess the point I'd like to make is you often never know what folks are doing IRL (I've burnt pancakes while ducking back to the computer to revert or add something), and sometimes folks are busy. Also if it looks plausible and it's a pretty accessible topic, maybe just have a google and see if you can add sources sometimes. It makes this place a whole lot friendlier. Is there any stuff you like writing about? If you do, you can always drop me a line for a second set of eyes on an article. Good luck anyway, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Again, I am sorry, I hope I haven't caused too much distress. Also, thanks for the comment on my review. I have replied to your comment and look forward to your reply. Thanks. --Chip123456 (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Tropical plants
Hello, How are you? I need your help. I thank you your help in the articles. I ask you: Can you find more people willing writing in tropical trees, genera and families? I ask you if you could enlarge some articles making better known this group of trees in Wikipedia, adding links to genera and families and writing information and asking people if they are interested in writing about topics as tropical trees articles, tropical forest articles or botanical or biodiversity articles. Do you know Wikipedia forums that could be interested about these type of articles? They are welcome too. I thank you very much.

I am from Spain and my mother language is not English language. Many country side areas, and Natural areas and Living beings are in Countries where population cannot collaborate with Wikipedia, but their Natural World and its highly economically valuable species are very important too in the human knowledge and developtment of the mankind. People should have information because these matters are important, not just a curiosity only. This unknow world is from Poles to ecuator, in unoccupied oceanic areas closely to Europe, in Deserts as Sahara, or whatever. But to me the main aim is to gather the abundant information disperse about living communities and living beings that have existed for millions of years because they are disappearing and in 20 years they will are not longer exist. Curritocurrito (talk) 12:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes I agree - there is a lot to write about that's for sure....as far as finding more people, I don't know. Very hard to convince people to write about something they have no interest in. Better to make people interested in tropical forests write wikipedia articles..Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you very much by to be interested in Tropical flora. I hope in future you will write about this matter so unknow. Best regards. Curritocurrito (talk) 08:12, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Echigo mole again
A sockpuppet account who has already been blocked for trolling on the WP:AN thread that another user opened on Echigo mole has been blocked as "sock troll" by FPaS. He also opened a SPI report on me similar to that of a previously blocked sockpuppet of Echigo mole, having located legitimate alternative accounts, used either for collecting information on the use of vodafone IPs for socking or collecting large numbers of rough diffs as a preliminary to submitting evidence on arbcom pages. Jclemens has not run a checkuser on the blocked account Jello carotids. Instead he is suggesting that my collapsing on AN and reversion there and elsewhere, which are similar to those of mutliple other users, are a sign of battleground behaviour. He has restored the SPI report on me deleted by FPaS. On 29 March, made a similar report which was dismissed by several administrators as without merit. Southend sofa, because of a set of anomolies in their editing related to other sockpuppet accounts of Echigo mole, was blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet of Echigo mole 2 weeks later by DeltaQuad. When the SPI report on me was listed, one of the alternative accounts in use for the arbcom review was listed and all the raw diff files were present. 3 days later, since the rough diffs were still needed, I coalesced the rough diffs into one file in a new account that was reported by Jello carotids, identically to Southend sofa. Jclemens seems to be militating to change the way serial wikihounders whose sockpuppetry shouts out through a megaphone are treated. He seems to be doing this in only one specific case, where he favours the sockpuppet, known for continued harrassment and wikihounding of an established user for 3 years, to the detriment of that established user. Please could you take a look at the SPI report on me (a declared account) and the two outstanding reports on Echigo mole. Thanks in advance, Mathsci (talk) 22:10, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Your DYK nom reviewed
Hi Casliber. I've just reviewed your DYK nomination for Canis Minor. Well done. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 06:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Dichelachne crinita
Carabinieri (talk) 08:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gahnia sieberiana
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Core contest
Thank you so much for putting the time and effort into putting that together. Let me know if I can help organise the next round. Guettarda (talk) 05:10, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

St Athan
Thanks for including me in the DYK. My input was minimal. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Canis Minor
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Core Contest Banner
This is from the 2007/2008 contest, you might find it of use for the 2012 contest. Earthdirt (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Grevillea longifolia
Yngvadottir (talk) 16:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 May newsletter
We're halfway through round 3 (or the quarter finals, if you prefer) and things are running smoothly. We're seeing very high scoring; as of the time of writing, the top 16 all have over 90 points. This has already proved to be more competative than this time last year- in 2011, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 was the lowest qualifying score. People have also upped their game slightly from last round, which is to be expected as we approach the end of the competition. Leading Pool A is, whose points have mostly come from a large number of did you knows on marine biology. Pool B's leader,, is for the first time not our highest scorer at the time of newsletter publication, but his good articles on The X-Files and Millenium keep him in second place overall. leads Pool C, our quietest pool, with content in a variety of areas on a variety of topics. Pool D is led by, our current overall leader. Nearly half of Casliber's points come from his triple-scored Western Jackdaw, which is now a featured article.

This round has seen an unusually high number of featured lists, with nearly one in five remaining participants claiming one, and one user,, claiming two. Miyagawa's featured list, 1936 Summer Olympics medal table, was even awarded double points. By comparison, good article reviews seem to be playing a smaller part, and featured topics portals remain two content-types still unutilised in this competition. Other than that, there isn't much to say! Things are coming along smoothly. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Horticulture and Gardening COTM
— Northamerica1000(talk) 00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/4 2012 Pulitzer Prize Winners
I have split the active nomination into five pages, yet it is notified in WP:AN. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Writing
Hi, I dont know if you remember our last conversation here but you said if I need help with anything come to you, so here I am! I was wondering if you would kindly be able to assist me to get an article up to a better standard, without any tags and better on the project scale and possibly GA?! Thanks --Chip123456 (talk) 08:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Absolutely, I'd be happy to. Which article or articles do you have in mind? I have a few ideas about scope of articles so maybe think of a few and I can offer some ideas. Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Great! Well before I became, let's say 'obsessed' with rollback, I used to edit railway articles a lot and notable people, for example royal family members etc. What ideas have you got in mind? --Chip123456 (talk) 08:30, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Aaah right, ok, I see where you're at - I was going to suggest a reasonably sized railway station, but looks like London Paddington station is already a GA. Looking through your contributions, I see Great Western Main Line as not a bad choice but already buffed up a fair bit. Articles like Chippenham railway station are good too -they are often quite small so easy to get everything written on - see Herne Hill railway station which is now a Featured Article as something to aspire to (and copy). Wessex Main Line is broader, so might be a good one too. One thing to do is to go to a local library to get a local history book, which will give you a massive advantage and you can slot in masses of detail. I like this idea as it is one way wikipedia improves what is online by adding to it, rather than folks just doing google searches. Anyway, lots of choices. Do you have any local history books? Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:49, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I was the reviewer of HH railway station on it's GA review! And I don't have any history books on things like this, but I tend to use google and things like that! I think probably things like small stations, like Chippenham is a good idea, because it is considered a main line station, you can always get lots of info about it from most places. --Chip123456 (talk) 09:01, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added a new referenced section on there. Any ideas on some improvements? --Chip123456 (talk) 10:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Khufu
Hi. I have re-written that article with good literature and I hope you enjoy reading. Greetz;--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Botany
I thank you your help in the articles about botany and I hope you will write about genera and families in future. I ask you: Can you find more people willing writing in tropical trees, genera and families?

You could enlarge about this topic in Wikipedia forums that could be interested about these type of articles. They are welcome too. I thank you very much. Really there are few people interested in botany and you can find information in other Wikipedias or translate information from other languages. If you are not very interested in write about botany or your friends are not interested, you can tell them, that botany is a good way to practise another language and learn about vocabulary.

I am from Spain and my mother language is not English language, besides my english language is really bad. To me the main aim is to gather the abundant information disperse already on wikipedia, but the information is not in the place where people seek is looking for it. Please, don't be afraid, you can help, you not need to be an expert. Even you not need to be very interested in living beings. I don't know how motivate you to write about botany, but I ask you. Thank you very much by read this. Curritocurrito (talk) 10:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Ankheg
Since you helped to find sources in the first AFD, I am letting you know that this article has been nominated again. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry folks, I really need to prioritise some stuff....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:45, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Now who is canvassing? 129.33.19.254 (talk) 20:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Susan J. Douglas
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Banksia ilicifolia
Great job, but I noticed a few errors in conversions. 10 metres and 5 metres were given at 30 ft when 10 metres is about 33 ft and 5 metres is 16ft. If you could use Template:Convert in future. Regards.♦ <span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000"[[User:Casliber|Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:16, 10 June 2012 (UTC)>Dr. Blofeld ]] 16:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I do find the template tricky doing rounding to 5 or 10 ft sometimes....

Possible Queue 6 late substitution or addition
You an administrator who is listed at WP:DYK as actively involved, so I wanted to call your attention to a particularly timely hook for the next queue Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know. You may want to make a late addition or substitution.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:02, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Jackdaws and frogs
"My" jackdaws are keeping me well amused. I notice that one young adult has a leg band so it must have arrived from elsewhere. As I cross the yard, I throw the jackdaws a handful of hen pellets when I am going to feed the hens. In anticipation of this, they congregate nearby and the boldest ones land on the ground near me. They actually prefer small bits of the dry extruded complete food I use for the dogs. The other day I threw a single hen pellet to one and it picked it up as if to eat it and then dropped it again, clearly signalling that it was disappointed that it was not dog food!

I have been working on the article Frog. Do you have access to the full content of this research paper? I have used it but only have the abstract and would like to mention in the article what species of frog the research involved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I should be able to get that - will check a bit later and email. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Triangulum Australe
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Like that short one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Damn, another constellation DYK. Nice job! If you ever want a constellation GAN review, I owe you one. ;) Keilana | Parlez ici 02:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have a few ideas in mind (mwahahaha) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * hint, hint? Keilana | Parlez ici 03:16, 12 June 2012 (UT
 * Hmmm, I was more thinking of these ones...., but nonzodiac ones to choose from - I was away in the country on the weekend (cold as &*%&^$), but good to show the kids the Coalsack Nebula next to the Southern Cross - Acrux being the first (and to date) only double I've looked through with some form of lens (an old telescopic rifle sight I've had since childhood...)....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:29, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I know there's some interesting mythology with Pisces, but honestly, I'll work on any constellation article. Southern ones are in worse shape, but they get less pageviews. Keilana | Parlez ici 11:41, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It never ceases to amaze me how some articles come together so much more easily than others, and sometimes for not particular reason that I can see. Still many options - might buff another couple for DYK first....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's funny, the constellation articles have come together so much easier than anything else I've worked on in the past. Keilana | Parlez ici 13:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Must be a good constellation ;) - good for the stats, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Aries
Hi, sorry that took so long. I've responded to your comments on the GAN page. Thanks! Keilana | Parlez ici 02:39, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four
Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!


 * Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!


 * What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
 * ....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
 * Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement
 * 409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
 * Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
 * New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.


 * Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
 * New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:
 * Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
 * Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
 * Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
 * Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Want to know how you can lend a hand at the Teahouse? Become a host! Learn more about what makes the Teahouse different than other help spaces on Wikipedia and see how you can help new editors by visiting here.
 * Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is really encouraging to new Wikipedians.

Ponies!
Casliber, New Forest pony is at FA, and we have one very good reviewer on it, but I think there needs to be three votes for FA status? Am I correct? If so, can you possibly tip off a couple good reviewers (or peek at it yourself) and lend a hand to the review. Our dear User Pesky did most of the work, but is dealing with a family thing, so I've kind of been shepherding the FAR. Montanabw (talk) 21:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Gah! talk about bad timing...still will have a squiz a bit later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:29, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If you an point a respected fellow reviewer our way, that would be fine also!  Montanabw (talk) 15:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

FAR on New Forest Pony got bogged down with a minor techie thing we got sorted out, but due to the slowdown we only have you voting support so far and the other reviewers seem to have bailed. How to get reviewers to take another whack? Pesky has a lot to deal with IRL, but I'm trying to round up the cavalry of reviewers and see if we can give her the gold star on that article yet. Montanabw (talk) 21:37, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Stanwell Tops, New South Wales
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey
Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time,

the wub (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC) (Delivered using Global message delivery)

WP:DYK question
Hi there. I already submitted Drowned God to DYK here, but then I noticed you were one of the active admins for DYK, and since we've recently had some tangential interaction at the Ankheg AfD, I thought I'd ask you about my nomination. Are exceptions are ever made for articles that don't technically hit the five days/5x requirement under certain extenuating circumstances? If they aren't, I'd like to pull down my nomination and see if I can somehow squeeze more content into the article in the next few days, but I'm afraid I'm about at the limit of the sources I've found. Anyway, thanks for any advice or information you can offer. <B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex;">edits 03:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * In general, folks are pretty strict with the 5x expansion, so if you can find a bit more to make it fit, good luck. I've missed the five day deadline a few times myself over the years....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Yeah, I'm kicking myself over casually throwing some text in and then forgetting about it until today. <B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex;">edits 04:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Brown Treecreeper at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex;">edits 15:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmm
Hey Cas, penny for your two cents! Thx ;) <font color="#259900">Rcej (Robert) – <font color="#259900">talk  06:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Casliber,
 * Were I Rcej, I'd avoid crying "Wolfowitz" prematurely! ;)
 * Just nearing the completion of the citation-of-sources phase, we have not yet considered reliability. Whether a university webpage's crude bibliography citing an occasional publication (apparently part of a suicide-prevention grant) be reliable would be my next question.
 * Cheers, <font style="color:blue;background:yellow;">Kiefer <font style="color:blue;">.Wolfowitz 09:06, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ?....... Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Miami cannibal attack
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for sending me this note. I appreciate it!  Thanks!  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:49, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

miami cannibalism attack
Hi, your bot recently credited me for the DYK on this page. An user changed the name to Miami cannibalism incident without discussion while it was up at DYK. I meant to change it back to Miami cannibal attack per the consensus on the talk page (the suggestion stood for days and the move was uncontested) but accidentally moved it to Miami cannibalism attack instead. I am having no end of trouble trying to figure out how to do this as an uncontested move. Can you please move it back to the uncontested Miami cannibal attack? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 23:22, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * oh dear. Let me take a look. I think the best thing is to open a discussion on i d'oh! I see, it's pretty simple. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Youtube and FAs
On the FAC for New Forest pony, ref 34 is from Youtube. I thought sites like Youtube and Facebook were not RS. You have supported this FAC so I am curious under what cases something like Youtube is allowed as a RS. Thank you. Pumpkin Sky  talk  14:04, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah well, the information is cited by the other cites - the images are a nice visual, so I suspect it's more appropriate to have it as an external link. However, it is more directly linked and useful to be located where it is currently really. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * So in limited cases it's okay, OK. Will go support now. Pumpkin Sky   talk  14:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Need your help.
Hello! Sorry to disturb you.

I've done some edits and posted my concern on the article of king cobra and its discussion page for a long time but it seems that no one gave any response there. As I'm new to here, I don't know if my edits are proper. I found that you're a member of this project so I'd like to have your comment there. You can check the article if you have time. Apologies for adding such work for you.

Thanks a lot!

User:Toxic Walker (talk) 15:25, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * There aren't many editors active in snake articles, so am not surprised you got little feedback. The medicine wikiproject is pretty active however, and posting queries there might yield more feedback. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:58, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your discussion there! User:Toxic Walker (talk) (UTC)

Hello! Sorry to disturb again.

I modified my previous message on the talk page, adding a document which mentions that the king cobra is among snakes causing the most fatalities in Thailand. You can have a look at it to see if it is relevant to the topic we have been discussing.

Thanks so much! User:Toxic Walker (talk) (UTC)

FAC stuff
I fixed the ref 9 URL problem, but found something with your page numbers. See the FAC. I'll gladly support when this is fixed. Pumpkin Sky  talk  19:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Done with your FAC now. Ever since creating Yogo sapphire I've wanted it to be as good as it can be. Right now it has six supports. You're an excellent reviewer and I was wonder if you could review the Yogo FAC? Pumpkin Sky   talk  22:08, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll get there - am doing a bit of a "sweep" now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:53, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Khufu
It´s finally finished now. Might satisfy you. Greetz;--Nephiliskos (talk) 08:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * That's great news - it's a fascinating topic and we've precious little on gemstones and minerals at GA/FA level. Sorry I didn't get to it - I felt to be fair to other FACs that I start at the bottom and work my way upwards....and I got bogged down by RL events....Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thanks. There are only two other FAs on gems: Diamond and Synthetic Diamond. Pumpkin Sky   talk  02:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Red-necked Avocet
Thanks from the DYK team of Wikipedia! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Yogo TFAR
I've listed Yogo sapphire at TFAR for possible on 30 June, 3 points (diversity and no gem article in 3 years). The only other gem FAs are diamond and synthetic diamond, both were TFA and last one was 3 years ago. Pumpkin Sky  talk  10:29, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * next step --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support! Did you know that you deserve a speacial FOUR award for being the one and likely only who appears four times in the list of awesome Wikipedians? I wonder where we get, multiplying awesome * four, foursome? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Heh, that'd be sixteen methinks....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Legacy
You said you worked with Philcha on articles, could you take a look at the two in his User space that look well developed to me? I am no expert here, only good in rescuing from sandbox in general ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Might need some fiddling. Am in the middle of a couple of things. Agree good idea to finish and get into mainspace. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I would appreciate if you do it, I understood enough about the Great Dismal Swamp maroons, but these topics are very unfamiliar, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Re up late for the draft
I could say the same for you ... up very late! :) My excuse, however, is that I am in Canada  (where it was not at all late), wending my way to Wikimania, mostly without Internet access. Wanted to publish the article before arriving. It took a lot of research to get those sources. Tried to find a featured Banksia article yesterday to show to another botanical editor but wasn't fast enough before she left the room. Cheers, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 03:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You couldn't find one ?! Oh well......I'd gone to bed early and then got woken...and couldn't get back to sleep. Have fun at wikimania...Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:09, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Lactarius deterrimus
hello,

if you don't mind I credited you here. Regards.-- GoP <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">T <sup style="color:#8EE5EE;">C <sub style="color:#8EE5EE;">N 10:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Heh, cool! Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

merge proposition for Lamia (D&D)
Hello, as you took part in Articles for deletion/Lamia (Dungeons & Dragons) (2nd nomination), which closed on "no consensus", I'm bringing to your attention a discussion on whether to merge or not that has opened on the article talk page.Folken de Fanel (talk) 10:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Core contest: how core is core?

 * hello, what hierarchical level constitutes "core" in your contest? Tks – Ling.Nut (talk) 04:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

That was going to be my question, will things on the Level 4 Vital Articles list count, or just the Level 3? Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Best look at item 2 of the The_Core_Contest - my thinking was we'd take it on a case by case basis, but there is no black-and-white - for vital articles 1>2>3>4. Core articles...hmmm, somewhere between 3 and 4, but underrepresented articles (such as food, particularly healthy food and staples etc.) might get some kudos. But a whopping improvement of a lvl 4 might trump a so-so improvement of lvl 3. Having three judges will help here.....One reason I kept it short was to keep it fun. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Core Contest link
I fixed the link in your announcements (e.g. here). Just a heads up in case you decide to post it anywhere else. <B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex;">edits 04:58, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * doh!!! thanks.... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Of paintings and putative psychiatric disorders
Hi, Casliber. If you'd like to take off your page protector hat and don your art historian hat for a sec, your insight would be appreciated here. I think it's a reasonable request and am inclined to make the edit, but I'd really like another opinion from someone more familiar with the article. Rivertorch (talk) 07:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Excessively long articles
I think you are very public spirited and dedicated to helping others and the good of Wikipedia! With regards to the Bivalvia FAC, thank you for your help. I have split off the 2010 taxonomy section. On looking at the instructions on how to do a split, I see that 60k is thought to be big enough for any article and 100k probably excessive. The trouble is that in trying to give comprehensive coverage, articles inevitably get longer. Bivalvia is well over 100k and so is Frog. In looking at the latter and how it could be reduced in size, I wondered about splitting off the Locomotion section. What do you think? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:34, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hah, you think those are long....have a look at Betelgeuse....Major depressive disorder was my longest FAC I think. I think if you've added everything you think you need to frog, then copyediting might help a little - but it is still an ok size. Frog (by Dr PDAs tool) has 55 kB (9335 words)  readable prose size, and bivalvia has  53 kB (8873 words) "readable prose size". They're both fine. I can see some trimming in frog ......Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * PS: User:Dr pda/prosesize is a really really nifty tool to add to your monobook. Have you ever tinkered with that? Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * PPS: Did I show you User:Tony1/How to improve your writing before? Extremely valuable read....Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The 4 examples you used on the talk page predated my involvement and I have mostly been adding rather than copyediting. I will have a look at your PSs. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay - I'll look more later. But at this stage I don't think I'd be moving sections out just yet. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:17, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Piercing point DYK
So, I saw a bot moved the DYK for piercing point to the 'waiting' list, and I got a credit on my talk, and a credit got placed on the talk page claiming an appearance on 26 June 2012, but I can not find it, either on the main page or the page Recent_additions/2012/June, as is claimed... am I missing something? I have to think that it has been skipped since it is the 27th now. Sorry to annoy, but this is my first DYK process.  QFL 24-7 bla ¤ cntrb ¤ kids ¤ pics ¤ vids 00:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Brown Treecreeper
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK favor to ask
Do you think you could take a look at one of my two DYKS, Drowned God or Twine (band)? They're both kinda stuck in limbo with incomplete reviews now. <B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">edits 16:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK discussion
Hi, need your input here. Thanks -- S M S  Talk 19:08, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your suggestions and support on Grand Teton National Park...it is now featured.--MONGO 01:28, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

re your GAN Pelican
Hi,

I'm reviewing your nomination and left a few comments at Talk:Pelican/GA1. I may add a few more. Worst problem is a "citation needed" tag. Great pictures! And love that video! MathewTownsend (talk) 22:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool! be as tough as you like ;) Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lactarius deterrimus
Thank-you from the DYK helpers and Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 June newsletter
Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's, who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's, whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's, with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

A quick note about other competitions taking place on Wikipedia which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the June-July GAN backlog elimination drive, but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of The Core Contest- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Wikipedia. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 10:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)