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Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_October_30
Just letting you know that I recently closed this October discussion as a rename, and that things should be clear for you to propose potential splits to refine the categorization.  bibliomaniac 1  5  03:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Deaths in Northern Cyprus


A tag has been placed on Category:Deaths in Northern Cyprus indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Myanmar 1980s estab by year
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Monetary Policy Committee composition June 2011 – August 2012
Template:Monetary Policy Committee composition June 2011 – August 2012 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:42, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

File:FayeWong-EyesOnMe.jpg listed for discussion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:FayeWong-EyesOnMe.jpg, has been listed at Files for discussion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. George Ho (talk) 01:05, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:18th-century establishments templates by country


A tag has been placed on Category:18th-century establishments templates by country indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 18:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's fine. The member templates (bridging Russia & Russian Empire in 1720s) have been made obsolete and deleted following Templates_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_13. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:13, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate pages
Abass Mohamed and Abass Mohammed are clearly the same person. The first article is older, but the 2nd one is correctly spelled acc to sources (part of the first one has now been copied to the 2nd one). What is the process to resolve this? Oculi (talk) 19:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That calls for a round-robin move. WP:Round-robin sets out a preferred method for this. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

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Category:Neo-Nazism in India
Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_February_2. Hi, can you please explain your closure. This was a few users who are in denial of the existing sources and using Strawman to vote delete. I would like to get it undeleted or recreated. What are my options now? There are enough sources to keep it.
 * Venkat TL (talk) 18:00, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * it was my job as closer to look for consensus, not to research the background. 2 editors argued to keep, but 4 editors (the nominator plus 3) were persuaded to delete the category, and these included the last two participants, who had the opportunity to weigh all the preceding arguments. I therefore believe that I was right to find a consensus to delete, and am not minded to reopen the discussion. If you believe my close was wrong – not based on the evidence you offered above, but based on a fair assessment of the arguments made during the discussion – then please use WP:DRV to seek to overturn my close. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you offering to reopen the discussion? please reopen, so that I can present this evidence. Also can you guide me to the page that explains notability criteria for category? What do I do to prove that this is a notable category. These users voting delete are in denialism and censoring information, they are not commenting in good faith. Venkat TL (talk) 20:35, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I am declining to reopen the discussion. If you wish to pursue the matter, please use WP:Deletion review. You have already done the first step by asking me to consider the above. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I apologise – I have belatedly realised that I closed that discussion early. I was testing the use of a tool for closing discussions, and can't remember how I came to be using it on a current page rather than overdue pages. I have now recreated & repopulated the category, and reopened the discussion. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reopening it and adding the note. Venkat TL (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * it was my job as closer to look for consensus, not to research the background. 2 editors argued to keep, but 4 editors (the nominator plus 3) were persuaded to delete the category, and these included the last two participants, who had the opportunity to weigh all the preceding arguments. I therefore believe that I was right to find a consensus to delete, and am not minded to reopen the discussion. If you believe my close was wrong – not based on the evidence you offered above, but based on a fair assessment of the arguments made during the discussion – then please use WP:DRV to seek to overturn my close. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you offering to reopen the discussion? please reopen, so that I can present this evidence. Also can you guide me to the page that explains notability criteria for category? What do I do to prove that this is a notable category. These users voting delete are in denialism and censoring information, they are not commenting in good faith. Venkat TL (talk) 20:35, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I am declining to reopen the discussion. If you wish to pursue the matter, please use WP:Deletion review. You have already done the first step by asking me to consider the above. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I apologise – I have belatedly realised that I closed that discussion early. I was testing the use of a tool for closing discussions, and can't remember how I came to be using it on a current page rather than overdue pages. I have now recreated & repopulated the category, and reopened the discussion. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reopening it and adding the note. Venkat TL (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Copying a cat
Hey there, I wanted to close the discussion on Israeli Jewish women singers per your suggestion, but I wasn't sure if there's a simple way to copy the contents of a cat. Any guidance?  bibliomaniac 1  5  01:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I would use WP:Cat-a-lot for that; it's usually very fast. If you don't want to learn another tool, I'd be happy to implement the close if you ping me or list it at CFDWM. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that works great! Makes life a lot easier.  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:46, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thailand/Siam categories
Hi. A belated thanks for closing the Thailand/Siam centuries/decades/years CfD and sorting things out accordingly. I'm wondering, since Thailand is the broader term following the present-day name, would it be possible to have Category:18th century in Siam be Category:18th century in Thailand instead? I've been refining things into subcats like Category:18th century in the Ayutthaya Kingdom, which should belong under the present-day scope of Thailand but not the historical scope of Siam (which per the discussion is to be applied after the 1782 cut-off). Also, do you know if the year header template can be tweaked to avoid showing the inaccurate message, "Note: in 1782, Thailand was renamed to Siam"? --Paul_012 (talk) 13:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The usual convention for a century category (etc) is to use the country name that was in use at the end of that period.
 * I can see your argument for renaming Category:18th century in Siam and Category:19th century in Siam to "Thailand", as parents for Ayutthaya Kingdom. I suggest you make a fresh CFD nomination for those two century categories, if you think it's important.
 * Where are you seeing that "renamed to Siam" message now? I thought I had removed it. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, meant to paste the link but forgot. I'm seeing it in year categories like Category:1774 in Thailand. The century cat name isn't that big a deal to me, so I guess I'll leave it for now. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:31, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I see, that's using Year in country category, which is somewhat intricate, and does not currently resolve redirects. BrownHairedGirl intends to do a complete rewrite of that set of templates some day. Meanwhile, if the "renamed to Siam" note is unhelpful, a switch could probably be inserted in the template to suppress that note using a new parameter, if it's worth the effort.
 * What do you think of the current note "in the Kingdom of Siam−Thailand" in Category:1750s in Thailand up to 1890s? Feel free to replace those pages using the standard template. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess it can wait for BrownHairedGirl's rewrite, whenever that is. Re: the description notes, personally I abhor them and see them as unneeded clutter leftover from Look2See1's huge mess of edits, which were never properly cleaned up and apparently have infected newer editors into thinking that's how category pages should look. But I haven't the energy to go after them. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

missing TV series : Jews and Judaism on Television
The series does appear in Wikipedia 9JKL

73.69.159.72 (talk) 19:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The article on 9JKL does not mention Jews or religion. We only put TV programmes in categories according to WP:DEFINING characteristics. Having a Jewish lead actor is not enough. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!
 '''Wishing Fayenatic london a very london happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Best wishes! CAPTAIN RAJU''' (T) 10:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

could you explain this...
Could I trouble you to explain the purpose of this edit in my working page? - Jack Sebastian (talk) 17:51, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * sure! As a bit of housekeeping to clean up after WP:CFD, I update categories on user drafts when they get renamed. Some such user drafts are straight WP:COPYARTICLEs, pasted long ago and forgotten, so I blank those to avoid future maintenance. Others such as yours show that some work has been done, which at first glance may be useful. I hope that tagging it as a user draft and for merging may be a helpful prompt to finish a draft that you started, and to incorporate valid additions into the live article. It also puts the page into categories that may eventually be reviewed by others, as WP:COPYARTICLE states that such pages should not remain indefinitely. Does that make sense now? – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:687 BC births


A tag has been placed on Category:687 BC births indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 06:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, that was Ashurbanipal, now stated as born c.685 BC.– Fayenatic  L ondon 06:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Categorizing ethnic groups and languages that precede their modern designations
Even though the current designation for that ethnic group did not exist until the 19th century, a separate Turkic Azerbaijani language and ethnicity evolved in the 11th century. The earliest Azerbaijani texts exist since the 13th century (and are highly mutually intelligible with modern Azerbaijani, when transliterated into the Latin script). Medieval poets and writers wrote in that language, long before it was called "Azerbaijani" or "Azeri". The relatively recent designations of long existing ethnic groups is also the case with other ethnicities, like the Slovaks or Slovenes. There are no clear policies in Wikipedia about this, hence, the problem. --Multituberculata (talk) 06:47, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced WP:OR. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:35, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 8
Hello, Fayenatic london,

I just deleted a template, Template:Wrong AFC submission, that used to fill this category which is empty and looks like it hasn't had any activity (pages added or removed) in recent times. You closed this CFD years ago and I was just wondering if you thought it should be renominated or just treated as a leftover category used by a template, remove the Empty Category tag and treat it as a regular empty category? It looks like the reasons for concern 7 years ago are no longer relevant. Thanks for your feed back. Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for asking. Please just go ahead and tag it as C1. Neither of the templates on Category talk:AfC submissions with missing AfC template lead to an active editor who should be consulted. Template:User AfC missing template should probably also be deleted. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Fix categorization of category
Hey, when you get a chance could you fix the categorization of the Category:Greater Republic of Central America–United States relations just like you did with another category I created. Thanks in advance. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:38, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure. Thanks for the diff, it reminded me where to go. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1958 disestablishments in Spain


A tag has been placed on Category:1958 disestablishments in Spain indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. That was for Instituto de Higiene del Doctor Murga, which has been deleted as COPYVIO. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Ismael to Ismail edits on 29 January 2022
Hey, just wondering why on the 29 January 2022 you edited the Ishmael in Islam wiki page to mainly say Ismail instead of Ismael considering the title of the page and the anglophone nature of the article. Kind Regards, NotAnotherNameGuy (talk) 09:10, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ishmael is the title of the main article (as a bible character) and hence also of the page Ishmael in Islam. The usual and longstanding transliteration from Arabic is Ismail. I was reverting a series of edits by one or more anonymous editors, possibly from South Asia but editing in the Gulf, who were inserting transliterations using "e" instead of "i" without explanation. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Would you not say that Ishmael being the English norm is reason and reason enough? As it has now lead to the page being a mix and match of e and i's Kind Regards, NotAnotherNameGuy (talk) 00:33, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Does Talk:Abraham_in_Islam help? – Fayenatic  L ondon 05:27, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah I guess his points raised are valid and appropriate, thank you for your diplomatic tone Kind Regards, NotAnotherNameGuy (talk) 16:39, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Yemenite Jewish songs has been nominated for deletion
Category:Yemenite Jewish songs has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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Category:18th-century Polish people by occupation has been nominated for deletion
Category:18th-century Polish people by occupation has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 10:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:List of moths of the United States
Hello, Fayenatic london,

I saw this draft of yours on a list of drafts that will be deleted later today and I doubt you will receive a notification when it is deleted so I wanted to let you know what had happened to it in case you want to restore it and continue to work on it. I hope you well. Take care, Liz Read! Talk! 05:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Liz. I had left a note at User_talk:Alborzagros inviting the creator of the original category to improve the list, but they do not seem interested.
 * I see that DGG accepted List of moths of China, but has not done the same for the sibling bare lists Draft:List of moths of Brazil, Draft:List of moths of Mexico or Draft:List of moths of the United States. – Fayenatic  L ondon 06:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I had not noticed them, and will accept them. I consider them all appropriate articles if documented in the source articles If you send any to mfd or afd, please notify me. But,, they wpuld be immmensely stronger and less likely to be deleted if you copied over some of the basic data--at least the family.   DGG ( talk ) 20:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, DGG. I merely created bare lists, using an automated tool to list category contents, as an attempt to retain some benefit from the extensive work that other editors had put into creating the former categories. I added a header line and categories, but will leave it to others to expand these pages into useful lists. I am indifferent to them being deleted if no editors pick up the work. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've just seen the parent discussion, which I think contrary to the manner in which biologists publish their work, which for general works does tend to go by country because they are typically funded by national museums or similar organizations. Just as our contents should reflect professional consensus, so should our organization. But I am not going to reopen the discussion, perverse though I think it, because I consider our manner of handling categories so peculiar that I decided 12 or so years ago that there was no point in trying to fight against it,& I have almost always succeeded in ignoring the field since then. . Had I seen how general it was in this type of article, I wouldn't have bothered. But maybe, just maybe, to show my disagreement, I will add one or two items of information to a few to show it's possible. DGG ( talk ) 17:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * For my reference, that discussion was Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_April_16. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:52, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of moths of the United States has been accepted
 List of moths of the United States, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: List of moths of Brazil has been accepted
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Places in historical regions
Shouldn't we explicitly include a section in WP:OCAT about historical region categories with (just) populated places? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that would be a good idea. Can you find, say, 3 precedents to link to? – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:48, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Speedy rename error
Hi, Fayenatic london. Thanks for catching my error on that speedy CfD rename leading to fixes like this! I definitely screwed that copy/paste/ edit up... Sorry for the inconvenience. I'm glad it wasn't too widespread. Regards, 2pou (talk) 21:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, you're welcome. Glad you could follow my short cut to fix it. Hope you didn't mind getting pings on the set of them. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Technical help
Hi FL

Pls can you help with a wee clerical task that needs the admin bit?

I posted it at WP:AN, but no response before it was archived to WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive343. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I did those as required. If not, do let me know. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:43, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, FL. I think it will be a week or two before they generate any output in the charts, so we will see then whether it has worked.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:16, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

CfD discussions with minimal amount of participation
Feel free to stalk my talk page. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:54, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

CfD closing instructions
See Village_pump_(idea_lab). Your input would be most appreciated, if only because I still have a few questions about the current text (as indicated in the proposal). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society
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Categories
Hello, Fayenatic london,

We have three categories that have been tagged for speedy deletion, CSD G4, having previously deleted at WP:CFD. They have been sitting at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as pages previously deleted via deletion discussion for a while now. Unfortunately, the page taggers didn't empty the categories first.

Do you know of a way to empty them besides going through and removing 46 pages from one of the categories, page by page? I think you have mentioned Cat-a-lot to me before but I've never successfully used it, I found the interface very confusing. Can you help me out? Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 04:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * the easiest thing for one of these is to list it at WP:CFDW under the original CFD discussion date. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:27, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * all three of those (Category:Cardiovascular disease deaths by country, Category:War thriller films by country & by decade) were "X by Y" parent categories, and should not have been tagged in isolation. This morning I tagged the like-named sub-cats.
 * For info, I am also going to tag Category:Deaths by myocardial infraction as re-creations following Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_June_21. Naturally these would not have come up as re-creations when 20SS00 created the pages, because of the egregious mis-spelling. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:16, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I misspelled it by accident. It was hardly egregious. Furthermore, I created these categories in the hopes that they had more of a chance of staying if they were segregated off by country, state, region, etc. But clearly not. The fact that it’s considered "non-defining" is purely based off of opinion. 20SS00 (talk) 13:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, because felt the need to get involved by undeleting Category:Cardiovascular disease deaths by country without any consensus to do so, instead of depopulating it and related categories, or asking someone to depopulate them, any further attempt to speedy delete them would violate WP:WHEEL. I didn't catch this until after I speedied them, so I was forced to revert my actions immediately upon realizing this and remove the tags as well. What a waste of time.  ✗  plicit  13:47, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't see a substantial problem here. Liz undeleted that one with the log entry Reverting deletion, this category needs to be emptied first, right now there are dozens of articles with red link categories that, according to WP:REDNO are not permitted. She then asked here for advice on emptying it. So if you or another admin agree that the case fits WP:G4, let's delete them speedily. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:55, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, you mean you have removed MY tags from this morning on all the "Cardiovascular disease" subcats of Category:Cardiovascular disease deaths by country. IMHO that was unnecessary. Please could I have your permission to revert those edits of yours? – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Fayenatic london, thanks for tagging the pages. Liz has informed me of the need to empty the categories when tagging. I actually initially planned to get back to them later with AWB, it not being convenient for me at the time, but since an ANI thread was started I thought it might be better to wait in case some other outcome was reached. Sorry for leaving things dangling. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I see that Explicit went ahead with the deletions anyway – thanks. I've made some CFD nominations at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_June_23. Hoping that someone will have the time to work through the new hierarchy of Category:Deaths from stroke – those could be speedily deleted, just moving the disease-specific subcats up. – Fayenatic  L ondon 06:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

NAV CFD closures
I've taken a break from CfD, and have now come back. However, it takes ages for me to manually carry out the results, so I've started listing them at WT:CFD/W. Currently there are around 10 discussions, but I anticipate closing more. It would be great if you could.monitor this page and add then so the bot can complete them. &#8213;  Qwerfjkl talk  21:28, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1056 BC deaths


A tag has been placed on Category:1056 BC deaths indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 01:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)