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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding your doc change
Your edits to the doc have created an inconsistency. I pointed that out when I reverted you. Your second change still has the same issue. --Gonnym (talk) 14:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For reference:
 * In the category name, "type" will always be enclosed in parentheses, but "series name" will not be. To me, it's clearer and more helpful to show them likewise in the documentation.
 * I thought you were pointing out in your edit summary that when I inserted an underscore in "series_name", it looked similar to the usage for parameter names, and it is not the name of a parameter in the calling template; hence, my first edit was also confusing; so you reverted it, which I accepted.
 * What is the new inconsistency, please? – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * My revert was for both, but I have less issue with series-name than with series_name. You left * . Regarding the substance of the edit though, do you really think "type" will be understood in your edits as a variable and not as the actual word? --Gonnym (talk) 14:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * perhaps "series-type" would be an improvement.
 * Actually, would it be useful to document the functionality using "series-type" for "TV series"/ "video game series" etc, plus "content-type" for "episode"/ "character"/ "location"/ "element"? The template is doing more than currently stated in the doc, e.g. the given example Category:Arrow (TV series) episode redirects to lists is placed in Category:Arrow (TV series) episodes.
 * Just realised, I may have been misunderstanding "type" all along. I thought "type" referred to series-type, since you raised the need for "(TV series)" at Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion. That was why I left "type" in parentheses, and thought I was being consistent. However, "type" in the current doc means content-type, doesn't it. Well, that needs to be explained in the doc.
 * If the template also looks for series-type within the category name, and makes use of it, please document this. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:26, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

create steve dabliz page
hello i want your help to publish steve dabliz page can you help me Ahmed.ali ibragem (talk) 12:57, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I had a look at Draft:Steve dabliz stuzz, and it was rather promotional as you wrote it. Please see WP:NPOV.
 * I suggest you list his name at WP:Requested articles with citations, and wait for a neutral editor to create the page. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:07, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

CFDWM
Hi FL

Sorry for not responding sooner to your ping to WP:CFDWM.

I assumed that I couldn't edit that page. I now see that I can edit it ....but it still feels wrong for a non-admin to be poking in there.

There is a further issue that most of the backlog results from my nominations. Given arbcom's bizarre ruled that cleaning up after my own nominations were implemented by someone else was sufficiently WP:INVOLVED to justify stripping me of adminship, I am not gonna go there.

Sorry about this. I'd like to help, but in the current climate it would be foolish to do so. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 23:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Yes, it was because part of the backlog was from your disambiguation nominations that I pinged you; I thought you might enjoy creating dab pages, or at least have a list of potential cat dab pages to be made. But if that's your interpretation of how things stand, you'd better leave it, as you say. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:COPYARTICLE
Regarding stuff like this? Eh? It's a draft. An old draft, yes. But still.

Please don't ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:54, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, notice the preceding edit "Update category". My main work in Wikipedia is WP:CFD administration. The job (renaming/deleting categories) is not done until links to old pages are checked.
 * I come across old user drafts, among other more useful pages, when checking backlinks to former category pages (redlinks in "What links here"). The second edit (blanking) is to save any similar maintenance being required on that page in future.
 * I do always check whether there are usable edits in the page history that have yet to be merged into the live article. If there are, sometimes I merge the content myself WP:AGF, giving attribution; sometimes I tag it for merging, and leave a note in the live article talk page.
 * But when I blank, it is not blanking for no reason, which was an accusation made against me some months ago. COPYARTICLE says it shouldn't be hosted indefinitely. Blanking saves work for me or other admins checking backlinks after future moves.
 * I began blanking abandoned user pages after realising what a drain they were on admins' time and attention. Time after time I found that their recent page history showed a series of edits by admins updating various links and tags. Even when no edit is made, the presence of abandoned user drafts in a list of "what links here" takes time and effort to check whether an edit is desirable.
 * Do you get it now? – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For info, example of merge from abandoned user draft: User:ChrisQvNguyen/sandbox2 – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:32, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi FL

I just wanted to say a quick thanks for two things you did at CFDS:
 * 1) Withdrawing your proposal to move Category:Albini (cognomen) to Category:Albinus (cognomen).  As I noted at speedy, my original move proposal had a bit of a coin toss, and your questioning of it was wise. The fact that my original move turned out on scrutiny to be OK was mostly a matter of luck.
 * 2) removing the disambiguation section heading as no longer needed.  For the last 3 or 4 weeks, I had been working in reverse alphabetical order through a list of ~7,800 articles not included in their eponymous categories, and that section was being used to disambiguate the false positives.  The last edit on that list  was late on Thursday night, so the job is done.  You were very eagle-eyed to spot that it was complete.

Thanks. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 10:54, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, of course! As for the second one, I was not stalking your list, but that section had recently become much shorter than before, so when it became empty I simply removed the heading as apparently no longer helpful. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Following progress on the list would not have been in any way stalking, but your other path to the same decision was sound. The subsection was no longer helpful.
 * Now I gotta wait for the CFD backlog to clear before I do re-run of all my list-making, and see what's left over. There are some exceptions which should stay, but some will be resolvable, so it will be a time for lots of manual scrutiny. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 11:56, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:267 BC deaths


A tag has been placed on Category:267 BC deaths requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. This message was automatically delivered by QEDKbot. 18:11, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, see – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:39, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Mitsui Miike Coal Mine disaster
Hi, I removed the categories on the above page because I redirected the whole page to a section in another article. This was because the page was only a couple of sentences long and didn't make sense to be its own article. When I did that I replaced the entire page contents with the redirect code (as per instructions here). I'm not sure what the purpose of having categories attached to a redirect page is - could you advise, please? Itsfini (talk) 16:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi please see Categorizing redirects. I don't see anything on WP:Redirect that contradicts that guideline. Basically, we categorise redirects when they fit in a category better than the target page. So if a stub is merged and redirected to another article, categories which are not on the target page should often be left in place. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:21st-century religious buildings and structures by decade


A tag has been placed on Category:21st-century religious buildings and structures by decade requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 17:30, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * For the record, this seems to have come about because of the use of Religious buildings and structures completed in decade category header by user:BrownHairedGirl. The preceding Category:20th-century religious buildings and structures by decade was already deleted in April (without notifying its creator user:Iaritmioawp), and Category:19th-century religious buildings and structures by decade (created in 2012 by user:JASpencer) is now likewise tagged as empty.
 * Well, the former subcats e.g. Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 2000s seem to be sufficiently well parented in (inter alia) and . Therefore the emptied categories are not really necessary; moreover, there is no general pattern of having "XX-century Foo by decade" e.g. Category:21st-century buildings and structures by decade. Therefore these categories can be quietly merged without being mourned. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, FL. That's a good summary of the situation. This was a superfluous layer which existed for only some centuries, so I saw no need for more ceremony. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 21:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Conservation in X
Hello, I think you may be an administrator for the moving of catgories? A whole slew of categories were moved overnight from "Conservation in X" to "Nature Conservation in X" as a speedy move, and I would like to dispute this move, which as far I can see was carried out without discussion. To take as an example, Category:Nature conservation in Scotland clearly includes both nature conservation and heritage/built environment, and the lead article, Conservation in Scotland, is written to reflect this. So moving this to nature conservation does not really make sense. As I say, it looks like lots of categories were moved at once, so it may be appropriate for some, but certainly not all of them. Another user (Oculi) had alerted me to the fact that the former "Conservation in X" included conservation of both natural and built heritage. Grinner (talk) 17:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have replied at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you know this User?
Hey Fayenatic london, I was just wondering if you know this User called: Binksternet. Because this person message me on my talk page.

From JukeboxMan1990 (talk) 3:57 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ? Oh, I see, someone left you a formal warning.
 * If you receive a warning, it doesn't matter who left it; just consider the content of the warning. The point of that one is that genres need to be supported by citations, especially when giving genres to an album that are different from the genres listed for the band. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Citations are like links are they? I'm not sure what that means can you please Explained what do you mean by that?
 * Citations are references to reliable sources, which show that what we write is not just our opinion. See WP:Verification and WP:Reliable sources.

Now Binksternet is making the Spandau Ballet The Story weird and he is trying to wreck the article now.
 * Please WP:Assume good faith. If you disagree with edits by an established user, discuss it on the article talk page, in this case Talk:The Story – The Very Best of Spandau Ballet, or on the user's talk page. This will be clearer than trying to have a conversation in edit summaries.
 * I see that Binksternet thinks you are the same person as User talk:Ben2719941, an account that was blocked for using multiple accounts. Wikipedia is very strict about that. If you are the same person back again, this account will be blocked as well, all the more if you still have not learned how to collaborate constructively with other editors. – Fayenatic  L ondon 05:52, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

what do you believe? Do you think Binksternet is right or wrong about what he said? Didn't the other user say that he hurt himself I think the other user disappeared or something like that?
 * Well, I can see straight away that you write like the other user, and are interested in the same sorts of articles, and seem to be well informed about the history of the other user. It does look as if you are the same person.
 * If you want a WP:CLEANSTART then say so and admit that you've been here before… although I'm not sure whether you would be allowed a clean start after sockpuppetry. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

How do I write like the other user?, the other user added The Essential albums right? Have you seen this user adding The Essential albums this year? No you haven't so how do you know anyway?
 * You're adding so much evidence that you are practically confessing. You have convinced me that you are the same person, so I've half a mind to block you myself. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Like I said I haven't add any The Essentials albums this year. I didn't even confess anything to you if I did I will be using my real name would I?
 * For reference, this obvious sockpuppet is talking about the recently deleted category Category:The Essential (for album articles e.g. The Essential Run-D.M.C.) which was populated by Ben2719941.
 * See now Sockpuppet investigations/Ben2719941. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

According to this it says Do not link to or include material that may reveal personal information about an editor. Doing so is outing and will be dealt with accordingly.
 * Before you get blocked, why don't you do something useful and put the articles in this list into "Greatest hits albums" for the year, and either Category:Legacy Recordings compilation albums, Category:Sony BMG compilation albums, Category:Epic Records compilation albums or Category:Columbia Records compilation albums as appropriate? – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:42, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

What the Heck are you sending me anyway? huh? Are you trying to say that you want me to add Essential albums? No way I don't plan to add anymore The Essentials to Wikipedia you do that yourself do not ask me to do your dirty work.
 * It was you who kept bringing up The Essential, but with no links, wasting my time so that I had to go searching to find what you were talking about. Well, I found that it was deleted after Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_June_25, where it seems that Marcocapelle and others assumed that the pages were already in Category:Legacy Recordings compilation albums etc. In some cases at least, they were not, so the category ought to have been merged/split rather than just deleted. Here's a chance to put that right.
 * It's a topic that evidently interests you, because you wrote to me about it a few months ago, see User talk:Fayenatic london/Archive23. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I only wanted to know why you did that it doesn't mean I will get back into it I was only asking a question okay? Are questions not allowed anymore Mr London?

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

NatWest Group
This category really shouldn't have been split and I don't think that was the consensus. I have corrected the errors, but it is a bit of a mess (e.g. NatWest people and litigation included under RBS sub-categories). 2.24.81.227 (talk) 00:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, it helps if you provide links when you leave comments, e.g. in this case to Category:NatWest Group.
 * It seemed wrong & unnecessary to break up the category history of Royal Bank of Scotland or the interwiki links at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8684358. Thanks for cleaning up after me. Please nominate the sub-categories for renaming, or split them manually if appropriate.– Fayenatic  L ondon 15:24, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Myanmar C20 estab by decade
Template:Myanmar C20 estab by decade has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

CFD for neologisms categories
Some of the categories, which you have created or edited are proposed for renaming. You are invited to join the discussion at. —⁠andrybak (talk) 01:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Outstanding big CFD nomination
Hi could you please take a look at Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 18 which hasn't been closed for more than a week despite no actual oppositions on the page? Thanks in advance. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure – ✅ – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:42, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

CFD for Kiev
Hi, I see you lcosed the CFDs for Kiev/Kyiv categories. Since they are successful, can I manually rename some and move the contents? unless they have to go through a bot? Thank you. Starzoner (talk) 21:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your interest, but they are already listed at WP:CFDW for JJMC89_BOT_III to process shortly. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ok. I will respect that. Starzoner (talk) 21:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

About the recent deletion nomination of the userboxes categories
I was going to use them on my userpage. I suggest you cross some categories out since I may have like some things that the categories were talking about. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 14:51, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * For the record, this relates to Categories for discussion/Log/2020 October 8.
 * I have split the nomination, and suggested upmerging those categories which now contain only one editor (yourself).
 * It would be nice if you would reply there to the question that was addressed to you: why did you not add yourself to these categories earlier? – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Processing error
It seem like you lost Category:Novels by Eleanor Smith when processing a WP:CFDS batch yesterday. (CFDS edit & CFDW edit) Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 19:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For the record, I fixed my error after this note, and pinged Armbrust at the time. – Fayenatic  L ondon

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Establishments in the Gilbert Islands by decade


A tag has been placed on Category:Establishments in the Gilbert Islands by decade requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 14:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Liz. This led me to some neglected page history which I judged was worth moving to Category:1965 establishments in the Gilbert and Ellice Islands etc. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

What do you mean by pace?
Your edit summaries make no sense. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 16:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "Definition of pace (Entry 3 of 3)contrary to the opinion of —usually used as an expression of deference to someone's contrary opinionEasiness is a virtue in grammar, pace old-fashioned grammarians" Merriam-Webster Oculi (talk) 17:04, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Oculi. the above is indeed what I meant at . (List of Latin phrases (P) also explains it; perhaps I should link to that if I use pace again in an edit summary.) – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:48, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I'm a technical writer and I've never heard of that usage. It must be very out of use now. Hooray for obscure language use. ··· 日本穣  ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 00:00, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Rajendra Srivastava's Wiki content
Hi,

Thank you for your feedback on our Professor Rajendra Srivastava's Wiki page recent updates. This is to let you know we put the factual information about the Professor on the page, could you please specify any particular reason? and also Please suggest if you any suggestions and we will try and incorporate those.

Regards, Sireesha EV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sireesha EV (talk • contribs) 09:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi I replied at Talk:Rajendra Srivastava.
 * Who is "we"? It's all right to have somebody helping with research or with your writing, but you should not be sharing your account. If more than one person is editing as Sireesha EV, please would each of you set up your own user account on Wikipedia. On the other hand, if "we" means you and the Professor, then you need to disclose your interest, see WP:Conflict of interest. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Later, I noticed that you had disclosed your interest on another user's talk page, so I have now documented this on the article talk page. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Armenian resistance
Hi, you may have missed my ping in the opposed section of CFDS about Category:Armenian resistance. I have meanwhile moved articles not about the Armenian Genocide from that category to Category:Rebellions in Armenia and nominated the latter for renaming at CFD. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * For the record, I have replied at WP:CFDS, asking you to reinstate some. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Homeland episode redirects
Hey, could you tell me what the point of this edit is? I commented in the CfD that if the redirects aren't deleted that they will still be categorized. You supported the deletion of the category but then recategorized them anyways. Now instead of actually being in a relevant category, you've placed them in Category:Episode redirects to lists, which states at the top, that is is a container category and should contain only sub-categories. --Gonnym (talk) 14:26, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, I think I intended to put them in Category:Redirects from episodes. Would that be of any use to anyone? If not, I'm happy to revert those edits.
 * I was giving them Rcats because when I removed the old Rcat, it left Rcat shell showing an error message where there was no Rcat left. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Entries in Category:Redirects from episodes are placed there by R from television episode}, which when not given a TV series name, also places them in Category:Episode redirects to lists, which is why I stated in the CfD that if the redirects are not deleted and we still want to add redirect categories, then deleting the series category was incorrect. --Gonnym (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, so I should remove that Rcat template from the Homeland redirects to episode articles. I think I used that Rcat on Homeland Series 2 Episode 4 & similar because I could not find any other applicable template. I could either leave them with no Rcat at all, or take them to Rfd. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have taken those four to Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 6. Is it OK to leave the others for now? Or, even if all the "to lists" categories get renamed without those words, would there be no usefulness in recreating a Homeland category for these redirects to full episode articles? – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:15, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Naming of navbox categories
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Category:Things named after animals has been nominated for deletion
Category:Things named after animals has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:46, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Find-and-replace error broke template
Just a quick note to let you know that an apparent find-and-replace error broke a template transclusion in an article in August 2020. If you have performed similar batch edits, you might want to check that you did not break any other transclusions. I fixed this one for you. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. My goal was to populate the renamed Category:Roller coasters manufactured by S&S – Sansei Technologies, and I apologise for not checking all the effects of my edit. I have now moved and updated template:S&S – Sansei Technologies which I hope will fix any other messed-up links. I'll review any others that I might have done likewise. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:35, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have partially reverted that edit to remove anachronisms, along with a few others in the same series of edits. I checked back and forth a few days of my contribs and didn't spot any similar errors. Thanks again. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your conscientious editing. I make mistakes all the time, and I am always happy (sometime later, after I freak out) to have them pointed out to me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:02, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:823 establishments


A tag has been placed on Category:823 establishments requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Cornish categories
Hello, Fayentatic london,

What's up with these Cornish occupation categories? Some of them are showing up on the Empty category list. The CfD discussion was closed a few days ago so the closer removed the CfD tags from the categories. But then you reverted them. Can they be tagged as empty cats now? Liz Read! Talk! 04:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz, new category pages were created, but the old pages should be undeleted and moved in order to retain the page history. I'll fix them. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It all got worked out in the end which is the important thing. Seriously, it's really a marvel that 99.99% of discussions regarding category names are resolved without any problems. Liz Read! Talk! 01:58, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Blanking my old article draft page of Gina Ortiz Jones
I had forgotten that old draft was even still among my userpages. I imagine people often complain, but in this case I appreciate your reminder of policy. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:17, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Cornish categories
I have completely lost track of what is going on with the Cornish occupation categories. So many moves and deletions and undeletions. Is Category:Writers from Cornwall coming back again? Was Category:Cornish writers from Cornwall really a momentary hallucination? It's like Soap for the Wikipedia age. DuncanHill (talk) 22:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was a disastrous fat-finger-syndrome moment, for which I apologise to everyone concerned. I have left those edits deleted.
 * I have now split the page history of Category:Writers from Cornwall to give user:William Allen Simpson (rather than the CFD bot) the credit for the redirect that he made at the old name Category:Cornish writers, and to bring the old page history into the current page, which I believe is correct. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:18, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I think it makes sense now. DuncanHill (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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