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Blonde tennis lady?
I didn't get the reference. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  23:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh the celebrated case of the one East European BLP on Wikipedia bravely targeted for Anglicization by a little band of valiant defenders of English Wikipedia. Remove her shameful accent aigu. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:14, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have no idea why Phryné was moved. But IF moved, please clean up after it, especially in templates. Or should it be moved back? I changed the composer's template. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * When I created the article I wasn't aware that the accented spelling was so often used in English books for the courtesan herself. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Music without beats?
Hi In ictu oculi,

I looked up BI (the disambiguation page)) and found the table of contents on the right. I think this is a good solution and indicates a free spirit. Then I searched the history to find who was so smart and free. That's how I came upon your name and user page. There I saw that you have done a lot in music too.

This led me to the idea that, maybe, you could give me a hint. I (try to) enjoy music via internet radio.

As for voices: I love beautiful voices like Elvis (in his best time, that is: when he was young) and Vicky Leandros (in her teens and twenties) or "Plava Laguna" in the film "The Fifths Element"; and I prefer few instruments, not big orchestras, e.g. pan flute, violine, clarinette, saxophone and trombone. I just realized: they are the ones which can start gentle.

As for drums: I love them when they happen to be from natural instruments which are big and have a solid bottom (not this western military style sound), and are recorded with microphones (not electr(on)ic pick ups) (minimum one meter away), then their sound is astounding enthusiasing, even more when their cases are thick wooden. But I hate the beats in modern music especially from snare drums (as they are used since Rock'n Roll was invented - after the Hawaiian music - and musicians started to use these "rock'n roll" drum kits). I hate such beats especialy when they are louder than the rest of the music, which just spoils the complete song -- for me, even if it was played and recorded analog. However, I love the snares in "Bolero". But I even more disgust beats which are artificial (that is: with a digitally made rectangle ascent).

Do you know of music stiles which do not have (artificial) beats in them? Sometimes I listen to the internet radio station "Cheap music" which features Music from the US from the 20s to the 50s, but these are not all enjoyable to me. I also tried two Irish music channels but constantly the same type of fiddle or singing is just too much. I once enjoyed the bouzouki in a film of the 1970s where the bouzouki was played light and gentle, so I tried a Greek channel, but almost all their bouzouki was played hard to the max and with the microphone much too close to the strings (I suppose). Plus most Greek female singers's voices sound like very old women and the men much too rough.

So, a hint or two out of your big chest of experience would be very apreciated. I would also apreciate a ping, Steue (talk) 20:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

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Trumpeter
I suggest looking again at the issues for the RM at Talk:Trumpeter (bird). I think your comment may have been a little confused. The article that has been suggested to be moved is not about a pigeon. —&#8239;BarrelProof (talk) 17:50, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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Vietnamese diacritics in The New York Times
Given your previous participation in discussions here about diacritics, you may be interested in a blog post I wrote briefly summarizing the 2011–2013 English Wikipedia diacritical mark conflict on the occasion of The New York Times appearing to relent and start using Vietnamese diacritics for seemingly the first time ever. It's just one online-only op-ed so far, so nothing to reopen an RfC about on its own, but hopefully it brightens your day as much as it did mine. Maybe it's the start of something big. Also, I updated WP:DGUIDE to acknowledge the recent acceptance of diacritics by the AP (of all things). Minh Nguyễn &#x1f4ac; 17:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's very much a technical issue. en.wp had both the editors and software to do it, for free. I worked in publishing at the same time and we only used full font VN for one high-MOS series of travel books, because it helped readers and the cost was worth it, but that's (a) a free encyclopedia, and (b) quality books. Newspapers would need to have proofreaders standing by in 100 languages, it's just not practicable, or wasn't then. The "English names" contingent didn't understand that. And still don't, we've got one sore thumb Serbian tennis bio remaining on en.wp as a trophy for the "English names" lobby. Publishing has different rules for reference books vs time sensitive news publications. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:27, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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Query
Hi In ictu oculi, looking for your help on a matter. I recently substantially expanded Cataldo Amodei and found this edit from yourself adding a music edition to the article. I would presume the edition in question is this one but I'm wondering where you got the names of the composer included, or if you have any more information on the edition? Best - Aza24 (talk) 02:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

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Eskimo–Aleut languages
What's going on here? Is there some reason the dash was not preferred? Dicklyon (talk) 03:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * No idea sorry. dash as you prefer all good. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

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Damn, you clocked this guy almost two years ago. ferret banned them just now. Good eye! Axem Titanium (talk) 07:17, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Making insinuations is annoying and WP:HARRASSMENT which is why i removed it. Would you please grow up? Sikonmina (talk) 03:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 18 February 2022 (UTC) Thanks Gerda In ictu oculi (talk) 20:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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ABD dab page re-org
This is minor, but I don't understand what distinguishes the entries at the top of ABD from the ones in ABD. Llew Mawr (talk) 22:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It's a partial edit. Tried to improve it, but a mess. Abd is not an acronym. Maybe you can do better than me. Good luck In ictu oculi (talk) 12:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Fishermen


A tag has been placed on The Fishermen requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Y.
This may be too far back for you to remember, but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Y.&action=history did you intend to point "Y." somewhere else]? Cheers! BD2412 T 06:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No preference In ictu oculi (talk) 07:23, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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Proposed deletion of Manohar Lal Sharma


The article Manohar Lal Sharma has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Coverage is all about his routine work. Notability of the controversial cases he's taken up does not transfer to the subject himself."

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

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 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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Ways to improve One Town, Vijayawada
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I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

"Hello. Your article One Town, Vijayawada, appears to not contain information indicating its notability. Please read WP:NGEO, and try to include information that mentions the subject specifically, and not in passing. Please also read WP:GNG for other insights on how an article is deemed notable. Thank you."

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of New Delhi Times (disambiguation)


A tag has been placed on New Delhi Times (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either
 * disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
 * disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
 * is an orphaned redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


 * Coordination: and  have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out.  will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.


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Concern regarding Draft:The Red Sun
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X District
With respect to disambiguation what do you make of the following districts when "District" in included or not?


 * Hastings District, about the one in New Zealand but the ones in East Sussex also has the long name "Hastings District" (see the map) (Alt Label-Hastings District). The one in New Zealand was formed in 1989 while the one in East Sussex was formed in 1888 and reconstituted in 1974 with the same boundaries. The one in England has 92,554 people (2020 estimate) compered with only 90,100 (2021 estimate) for New Zealand. The disambiguation guidelines for the Sussex one would be Borough of Hastings if it had a separate article from the town per WP:UKDISTRICTS but the alternative form "Borough of X" doesn't seem that common for non-metropolitan districts. Probably make "Hastings District" a DAB (or redirect back to Hastings (disambiguation)) with Hastings District, New Zealand and Borough of Hastings being covered by Hastings Borough Council as well as a See also to Port Macquarie-Hastings Council which is kind of the equivalent of a district. I don't think it should redirect back to the town in England though even though that currently deals with the district with borough status as there is probably a reasonable argument "Hastings District" more commonly refers to the NZ one.
 * Hastings District Council, seems fine since Hastings Borough Council does generally seemed to be named as such and unlike the district the naming seems more fixed.
 * Birmingham District, about an area in Alabama, less sources seem to use "Birmingham District" but still, see also Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 26. Perhaps make "Birmingham District" a DAB or redirect back to Birmingham (disambiguation).
 * Sandwell District, about a record label, same as Birmingham sources. Perhaps make "Sandwell District" a DAB.
 * Westminster District, already moved and redirected to Westminster (disambiguation), formerly about a Canadian electoral district, less sources still but Vision of Britain still does.
 * Any others listed at User:Crouch, Swale/X District
 * Stratford District, New Zealand, I think because the English one does have "on-Avon" the NZ one could take the base name.

Thoughts on which should be disambiguated? I'm pretty sure the 1st should.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hastings Borough Council now has a separate article though the district doesn't.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:05, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:The Red Sun


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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

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 * Hello, In ictu oculi,
 * I'm not sure if you are still interested in this article you started in 2013. It was mistakenly moved to Draft space from main space which is why it became eligible for speedy deletion, CSD G13, after 6 months of inactivity. If you would like it restored, please make a request at WP:REFUND or ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 22:32, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Red Telephone (band)


The article The Red Telephone (band) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "No indication of meeting WP:BAND"

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

"Denied (song)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
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NEXT (Chinese band)
I don't understand your comment at Talk:NEXT (Chinese band) about a UK clothing group. The proposal was, not. Can you please check that comment? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 11:07, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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Do you seriously believe "I can't think of a single more disruptive and damaging thing to propose to make the encyclopedia a worse place" is a productive comment to make during a discussion? I would have hoped someone who's been around as long as you would refrain from such statements. Or is there a tenure that editors reach when they are free to stop assuming good faith? WP scatter t/c 08:31, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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İskenderun / Alexandretta
I was just reading through the İskenderun talk page. Surprised to see that a proposed move section was mostly conducted by IPs and a very short-lived account. Also, there is a long contribution at Talk:İskenderun which I agree with. The crunch question per Article titles is what the English-language reliable sources use, and I have looked at them. They overwhelmingly use Alexandretta, including (for instance):
 * 1) Majid Kadduri, The Alexandretta Dispute (1995)
 * 2) Edward Weisband, The Sanjak of Alexandretta: a Case Study of Law and Power During the Inter-war Period, 1919-1939 (1966)
 * 3) Matthew Hughes, Allenby and British Strategy in the Middle East, 1917-1919 (2013)
 * 4) John Fisher, Curzon and British Imperialism in the Middle East, 1916-1919 -  (2012)
 * 5) Paul G. Halpern, The Naval War in the Mediterranean: 1914-1918 (2015)

The use of İskenderun in reliable sources seems to be overwhelmingly in the Turkish language. I am just wondering if you would look at this again and maybe we could agree on a proposal. Moonraker (talk) 01:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I would certainly oppose a proposal to go back in time 100 years. You do realise that we are in 2023? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:22, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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