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Welcome to Wikipedia, Joshuaingram! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! –Drilnoth (T • C) 23:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
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October 2009
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people&#32;as you did at Arguing with Idiots, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. (will post explanation below) tedder (talk) 01:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I know you know about WP:NPA, as well as WP:EW. As a final reminder, editcomments and comments such as this do not help build a consensus. Even if the "you" is not meant to be a specific "you", please focus on the issues, not the person. tedder (talk) 01:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * First, I'm not sure what in that statement constitutes a personal attack. Second, if what I said constitutes a personal attack, why aren't you saying the same thing to Jim? (I'm not trying to be indignant or rude, I just want to know what the problem is, and why I'm the only one getting warnings.) JOSH  UA IN  GRAM  02:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You're getting this warning specifically because of the edit summary on this post. Unless you can convince me that the "head slap" and text was directed at yourself, it's uncivil at best, and a personal attack at worst. I'm willing to AGF that it wasn't directed at a specific user, though it may have been. Even if it was directed at anyone and everyone, it's an uncivil remark that doesn't lead to consensus.
 * I agree, the other user(s) involved have probably breached the civility line, but your comments (especially in the edit summary) are well and truly over the line. tedder (talk) 02:41, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, honest to God, I am really not getting how that was over the line. I commented that it was really bad (meaning ironic) when someone is ignorant to the definition of ignorance (ignorance is, of course, a lack of knowledge within a single topic or issue). Then the head slap comment was simply a visualization of putting my face in my hand. I'm not trying to be argumentative or combative, I swear to God, I honestly do not understand what the problem is. And I absolutely do not understand how his responding to my statement, and putting, "Arguing with Idiots (insert joke here)" was any better. I'm not trying to dodge blame, or redirect it, I just hate it when some people are punished when others did the same thing (or worse) and no one says a word. JOSH  UA IN  GRAM  02:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand where you are coming from. Just know some of your edit summaries (and messages) are approaching that line. Your summary was basically saying "what's worse than being stupid? you." Even if that wasn't your intent, it can easily come off fairly aggressive and uncivil. tedder (talk) 03:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you for taking the time to explain, and letting me explain. I appreciate it, and I will try not to toe the line anymore without provocation. However, if I get goaded, I can't promise that I won't at least swing back.  JOSH  UA IN  GRAM  03:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad to help explain it. However, keep in mind that "provocation" and "goading" aren't valid excuses. If someone else goes over your line, ignore it or report it. Responding will just get both of you blocked. (such as to WP:WQA). tedder (talk) 03:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Big Brother!!!
helpme Does anyone know how to tell who is watching a certain page? I swear to God I saw a button recently pop up that said something to the effect of, "See who's watching this page." Or am I just crazy? J DIGGITY  SPEAKS  20:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Whilst I don't think you're crazy, I do believe you are mistaken. Watchlists are private and only the user has access to them.  Perhaps you've confused it with this external tool, which tells you how many people are watching a page, but not who they are.  AJ  Cham  20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

New Section
Hi BAYBEE! I don't really like this. But here you go I'm trying something new :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kourtneyingram (talk • contribs) 20:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Gooberface! Don't forget to sign your posts! J  DIGGITY  SPEAKS  20:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Is this better??????? Kourtneyingram (talk) 20:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, except you forgot to add colons before your post. J  DIGGITY  SPEAKS  20:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * How about this Gooberface! Kourtneyingram (talk) 20:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What's a Gobberface? J  DIGGITY  SPEAKS  20:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey now :( Kourtneyingram (talk) 20:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk pages
Hi Josh. I deleted your edits to Talk:Michele Bachmann because it violated the use of talk pages. They are used for improving an article. Thank you A8  UDI  00:14, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I expected that. I just had to get that off my chest. Neanderthal vandalism pisses me off. J  DIGGITY  SPEAKS  00:26, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

hey
@glenn beck- so, I was looking at the neoconservatism (worldwide) article. the neocon the article is much clearer on what a neoconservative actually is. sorry- I jumped up & down prematurely.

I kinda figured he was a generally big a Bush White House supporter, therefore I labeled hastily. I kinda thought since pnac has effectively brought about a world that is so much closer to what it envisioned approx 10 years ago, that neocons ruled the day. I figured beck was down with most of that. I think I had a little Hannity on the brain. So, I'm gonn throw away my knee-jerk Beck-as-neocon notion and be more careful.

Even if I were right, I can't just make a first sentence edit to glenn beck and thereby necess acheive something meaningful. say, like if I wanted to get a few hundred american flags into the hands of kuwaitis and then get them to fervently wave them, that shit takes planning! you need a genuine coalition. offtopic? anyway, like I said, I won't fight the silly battles in the wrong places. godspeed. n-dimensional §кakkl€ 04:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't randomly pick fights for fun. Your edit had several classic signs of vandalism, and I reverted it. I was not trying to start a war. However, I would caution you to try doing some research and before you try to make edits to BLP's, especially BLP's as hotly contested as Glenn Beck's. Maybe read some rules first?  J  DIGGITY  SPEAKS  04:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Explanation of the derogatory term "D-Nozzle"
Go here for the last link... J DIGGITY  SPEAKS  05:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Re
Yeah, it works (and I should probably ark Hive some time) Soxwon (talk) 21:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Sarah Palin. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. '' I've locked the article for now, and suggest you attempt to reach consensus on the talk page. '' KillerChihuahua ?!?Advice 19:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Glenn Beck
The Christmas sweater link violates BLP and EL, as it doesn't relate directly to the subject in any clearly meaningful way, so maybe a note at either of those noticeboards, WP:BLPN, or WP:ELN, would be a good place to post a comment. Otherwise, the thing to do would be to open a discussion on the article's talk page, and try to talk with him about it. With any luck, someone else might add something to. If they do, and agree with you, and the behavior continues, then you have grounds for a Wikiquette alert ala WP:WQA. Should it still continue thereafter, WP:ARBCOM becomes an option. At this point, I could see saying that a "Criticism" section might be in order, but none of the criticisms seem to me anyway to be independent of the controversies, so it might permit redundancy. but a "Criticism and Controversy" section as opposed to "Public reception" might be a bit less problematic, although you might want to ask about that at the BLPN, as that is a bit outside of my purview. John Carter (talk) 20:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Your new thread definitely crossed the line. Please read WP:TPG. You do yourself and no one else any good by making comments regarding the behavior of someone else which are themselves a violation of talk page guidelines. I very sincerely urge you to restructure your comments in a way which is acceptable by wikipedia guidelines. John Carter (talk) 21:58, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You haven't been much if any trouble, honestly, although if you want someone who can be a more active helper than I have been I could well understand that. These are contentious articles, and, in all honesty, I think I've "notaforum"'ed at least two pages in the past two days, removing several comments both times, which indicates I'm probably 75% or so toward true Scrooge-hood myself riught now. I read at the beginning of the month on one of the noticeboards that December tends to be "Drama Month" around here, so I don't think I or you or anyone else are alone here. When you see people misbehaving, it's harder to behave yourself. John Carter (talk) 22:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You are going to have to very careful regarding your use of language. Saying someone is "lying" is unacceptable as per WP:CIVILITY and other policies and guidelines. Talk about the edit, not the editor. "Reverted edit, find nothing on talk page which supports contention made" or something like that would work better. John Carter (talk) 21:59, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Please sign your comments.
As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Talk page guidelines. Thank you. Bytebear (talk) 01:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mind telling me why you posted this here? Since the last time I forgot to sign my posts was eight days ago, and I have corrected nearly all of them, I'm wondering why you would bother to post this, as I am an established user with over 650 edits to my name (perhaps not as impressive as your 7500, but still enough to know the signing policy), and not some idiot still using an IP address. Can you explain that to me? J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  05:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I think I posted it to the wrong users talk page. My mistake. Bytebear (talk) 00:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's all right, man. Shit happens. I was just a little confused, is all. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  01:27, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks for the Barnstar. Interesting user/talk pages you have. Hope it's all right to post here. :) Malke 2010  20:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I just noticed that the whole page has not been left blank. Malke 2010 20:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Glenn Beck
Srsly, you don't have to respond, the best way to get rid of a troll is to stop feeding it. Soxwon (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Lynne was not trolling. Both of you were acting insensible and out of order. For all of Lynne's oppositition, she did it without the cursing, without the bullying, and without the condescending nature that the two of you displayed. Jersey John (talk) 00:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, Mom, I'll try to do better next time. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  00:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Glen Beck is a very fact gathering speaker and only goes on facts not hearsay. No, the libs can't stand him, but who can stand a person who tells the truth about himself. He exposes them as the cheap copies of real caring people that they are. No one would like eveyone to know the truth about them. Glen should use his knowledge and go into the political arena. RUN FOR PRESIDENT GLEN, TAKE OUT THAT MUSILUM BUM OF A PRESIDENT AND HIS MAFIA STYLE THUGGS FROM CHICAGO WITH HIM. Before he ruins or destroys this nation UNDER GOD more then he has, or even beyond fixing it.Obama has broken ties with Irael and making footsy under the table with the Arabs and radical musilums. Such an embarassing president for our nation.Everything he does is turning to garbage, wheres the JOBS ! Take them back from China or even out the trade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.141.63 (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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Continuation of the discussion on Glenn Beck
Fact One: That he is widely regarded as a bit of a nut and right wing conspiracy theorist. Fact Two: That he does engage in conspiracy theory musing on his show (heck is format of his television show--that is what the chalk board is all about). Fact Three: He has been inconsistent on a number of his own statements and beliefs (going from We have a terrible health care system to we have the best health care system in the world in about 9 months---but the pivot came with Obama Care. I will grant he has a huge following and most people recognize he is very good at what he does. But you can't ignore how polarizing of a figure he is, in the article. LynnCityofsin (talk) 19:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Fact One: Completely untrue, and I can prove it here, where a poll showed that Beck is the fourth most admired man in the world. Beck came in below Nelson Mandela, and above the Pope. How many people will admit to admiring a "right-wing nut and conspriacy theorist?" Fact Two: I agree, but he also supports these "musings" with verifiable facts. Fact Three: He has consistently stated that yes, we have a terrible healthcare system, but it is still the best in the world. And yes, he is a polarizing figure, but you can say that about a lot of people. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  19:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

All that poll shows is that 2% of the respondents admire Beck. Also, I am pretty sure that poll was taken among Americans. It wasn't a global poll. I have always maintained he is loved and hated. But his fans do not make up a majority. LynnCityofsin (talk) 21:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you had bothered reading the damn poll question, it was, "What man that you have heard or read about, living today in any part of the world, do you admire most? And who is your second choice?" This means that Beck was the fourth most mentioned man by all respondents, meaning that he is the fourth most admired man in the world (by Americans), not "admired by 2%." And yes, that poll was taken among Americans, which is apt because Beck is an American political figure. I personally don't give a shit what people around the world think about our political figures, and that goes for the ones I don't like, too. And I never said that his fans make up a majority. I said that he is not...how did you put it? Oh yeah, your horribly neutral statement, "He is widely regarded as a bit of a nut and right wing conspiracy theorist." J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  21:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I did read the question. Diggity, look at the numbers again. Those are the percentage of people who selected that person as the most admired. He may be fourth on the list, but he only got 2% of the respondents. 2% of respondents to a poll saying Beck is the person they admire most in the world, doesn't preclude half or more of the country thinking the guy is a nut. Hell, Obama got something like 30% of the respondents, and I am pretty sure half the country thinks he is socialist scum. I actually think the two men are comparable figures when it comes to how polarizing they are. It is fair to say that Obama is widely regarded as a big government liberal, or radical if you like, becuase I think it is clear about half the country views him as such. By the same token, I think it is fair to say about half the country views Beck as a right wing conspiracy nut. LynnCityofsin (talk) 22:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I could agree with half. That seems to be the reach of the Mainstream Media nowadays. But what about the other half? Does the other half still, "tune in because they know he'll do something crazy?" Has your opinion on that half changed? And what about the remainder? I mean, we only covered two halves, there are still some left. Are the ones left still, "fringe folk?" J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  22:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Diggity, I was half kidding when I said that; I thought that was obvious. But let me clarify my position. I believe approx. half (or at least a quart ot half) of of the US feels he is a right wing nut/fearmonger/comspiracy theorist etc. But I also think the other half (again quarter to half) think he is a brilliant man, shining the light on key issues. For the sake of argument lets say there are two large camps in the US: one views him as a right wing conspiracy theorist, the other as a champion of individual liberty and the common man. I think it is a good idea to quibble over the details, but I also believe it is obvious to anyone with even a vague interest in US politics and media that this is the case. LynnCityofsin (talk) 00:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * First, you did not sound (in as much as typed words can sound a certain way) like you were kidding, and so I responded as though you were serious. I keep bringing it up because you seem to get angry when I leave things out. Second, I happen to agree with you on the groups stated in your last statement. However, I disagree on the percentages, and I think there is a third group. First, I would say that somewhere between 10% and 40% hate Beck and/or disagree with everything he says, mostly on the left, but some on the right (we'll call them the "Republicans Can Do No Wrong" crowd). We'll call it 25% for the sake of argument. Likewise, there are probably between 10% and 40% that love Beck and/or agree with everything he says, mostly on the right, but a few on the left (we'll call them the "Not Fully Acquainted With The Tenets Of Progressivism" crowd). We'll call it 25% here, too. However, I contend that there is a third crowd, a group that either does not subscribe to any party, or is at least capable of removing themselves from said party's establishment. A group that is truly independent, and by independent, I don't mean they hate all parties or anything like that, they just don't like the stances that the parties take. I contend this because that's where I fall, and I know a few Beck fans that fall in that category as well. I would call that group, based on his ratings and fan base, 10-40%, and we'll call it 25%. The last 25% of the country are the people, like my parents, who have no opinion because they either do not care, or do not pay enough attention to even know who he is. (If you were to ask my dad his opinion on Glenn Beck, you would get an expectant stare, the kind you get when people are waiting for you to finish your sentence.) Therefore, I contend that he is more admired and liked more than he is hated and ridiculed. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  01:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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March 10th
Hi Josh, thanks for the feedback. This was my first time uploading a file and using it as an image. Wikipedia is excellent in explaining the technicalities in making edits... it isn't good at explaining when to edit and how to decide one edit over another.

Can you please tell me how it is decided that one photo is perhaps better than another? How did you choose another photo over mine? Are the decisions based on consensus, democracy, perhaps an individuals subjectivity? Is there an process for selecting at all?

Thank you, and I appreciate your help friend.

Peace, brandon


 * First, it's not a problem. I don't mind giving feedback to anyone. Second, if you are going to leave posts on talk pages, you need to leave a signature.


 * Third, uh, are you being serious? Did it not occur to you that maybe a picture of Glenn Beck (or anyone for that matter) with a frickin poodle is an appropriate main picture? Or are you joking? I want you to tell me first so I can give you the proper...feedback. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  00:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * What is wrong with a poodle being in the photo? I'm sorry, but I'm really not familiar with your line of reasoning. If a picture of a person on wiki shows a chair in the background, does this premise the photo should not be used? Can you link me to a set of criteria that must be met for a photo to be used? I'm not trying to troll, I just want to understand, for future reference, how to decide on using one photo over another.

--FusionHalo 01:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, obviously a picture with a goddamn poodle in it is not proper for an encyclopedia. Wikipedia's policy on images used in BLP's states: "Images of living persons should not be used out of context to present a person in a false or disparaging light. [emphasis mine] This is particularly important for police booking photos ("mugshots"), which can carry additional connotations beyond the record of an arrest, or situations where a subject is not expecting to be photographed." I'm wondering how it is not obvious that putting up a picture of a guy with a poodle, especially a man who's profession and fame have nothing to do with poodles, is not the least bit proper for use in an encyclopedia. I'm still not sure if you aren't getting it, or if you're just fucking with me, but here's an easy way to figure it out for yourself: Would you want to put yourself up in an encyclopedia with a poodle in your lap? What we try to do is use the most official-looking pictures we can, while not violating any copyright laws. If you have a problem with my removing the picture you put up, then take it to the Beck talk page and put it up for discussion. However, I can tell you now that that would be a waste of time, and they will all tell you the same thing I'm telling you now, only a little less bluntly. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  02:06, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you friend, that answers my question. The link is very helpful too. Take care :) --FusionHalo 14:15, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Conservapedia
I bet you have an account there, and are well liked, particuarly by, perhaps, TK and his ilk. LOL wouldn't be surprised in the least. Jersey John (talk) 00:36, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I might have an account there (I don't remember if I actually went through the account creation process before I left), but I haven't been back since I figured out it was just as biased as Liberapedia, only the other direction. And just who are you? J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  00:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Glenn Beck ANI discussion
Hi there! I'm not sure you've seen but you were mentioned by LynnCityofSin in an ANI discussion. (Unfortunately its been archived now so I can't find the link for you). No administrators seem to want to get involved but I wanted to beg you to treat LynnCityofSin with a little more courtesy. Looking over the discussion I can see why you're getting frustrated, anyone would be, but swearing at the user or otherwise demeaning them is not the way to go. They seem to genuinely want to help but they obviously have no idea how to go about it.

I'm going to leave some helpful tips and a note to be more civil towards yourself and other editors on LynnCityofSin's page, but I think the entire process will be easier if swearing and demeaning comments are taken out of the equation. And if LynnCityofSin will not stop making personal accusations against you, not stooping to their level will make you the better man! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Automatic Editcount
Hey, I noticed that a while back you asked if there was an automatic updating userbox to display your edit count. You might want to know that I have created a bot for it, and it is waiting for approval. I would appreciate a comment from you there, as it may help the approval process which would benefit lots of users that would like automatically updating edit counts. Thank you. - EdoDodo talk 19:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Arguing with Idiots
I have brought back up a discussion in the Arguing with Idiots Talk Page(I'd link you but I'm not sure how) and see that you were a contributor to the former discussion. I'm rounding up the people from the previous discussion. Any input would be appreciated. :) Ink Falls  02:04, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Beck University
I believe that your comments on Talk:Beck University have violated WP:BLP guidelines, are rude, meant to be uncivil, and are not helping to produce constructive dialog on the talk page. In order to help promote more positive dialog, I ask that you please redact your derogatory comments and cease the current level of hostility. Thank you. Akerans (talk) 01:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, the Beck University article is not a BLP, therefore not subject to those guidelines. Second, yeah, they were meant to be a little rude. Third, not meant to be uncivil in any way. Fourth, they are absolutely meant to produce constructive dialogue on the talk page. Or at least, more constructive dialogue. And I will absolutely not redact my comments unless an administrator comes and explains exactly what is absolutely unacceptable. Also, while I appreciate that you kept this conversation off the talk pages of articles, don't waste your time scolding me on article talk pages. I won't listen. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  19:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Beck University is not a BLP, but Keith Olbermann is a BLP, and BLP states that [e]ditors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page. However, since you are not clear on BLP, and have demonstrated you're not willing to work with me on this, I will abide by your wishes and request administration assistance. Good day. Akerans (talk) 21:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Truly, hell hath ice cubed.  Defending JDogg?  It was a joke..juvenile?  Yes.  (Beavis and Butthead/Southpark fans unite!!)   But a violation of BLP?  No.  Lighten up (for the moment..until Josh says something really stupid)Jimintheatl (talk) 02:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's true. I will probably say something much dumber shortly. (But Beavis and Butthead? I disagree. South Park is dead on, though!) J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  20:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Everyone on that talk page has more time in Wikipedia than I, and you all seem to know one another. If you all deal with each other in that manner, then so be it. But, not everyone is part of that clique, and will see your comments to one another as joking around. Akerans (talk) 06:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * At first I thought this was a joke, but now I realize you are serious. I think. I can't really wrap my mind around what you are saying I did wrong. Let me work through it. I said this:

"So the grand Keith Olberwomann found something to say about this. Why is that so important? Is someone spending too much time worshiping....I mean, watching Keith? Just because it comes out of a progressive's mouth doesn't always make it notable, Jim."


 * I fail to see how this is an addition of information about Keith Olbermann, since I was commenting on information added about Keith Olbermann, and I would set my computer on fire if you somehow found an administrator (excluding administrators with a vendetta against me, which, to my knowledge, there are none) that would agree with you on this. In my opinion, this is a case of you taking the rules just a little to literally. Sometimes you will get shit like this happening. My advice to you is to not take things that are said on talk pages quite so seriously. But please let me know if you do find an administrator that will agree with you, so I can set my computer on fire. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  20:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't really wrap my mind around what you are saying I did wrong. You did an excellent job explaining what you did wrong here. You said, [a]nother reason is to keep people from making unfounded statements about the subjects of BLP's. On the actual Olbermann Talk Page, my comments would have been deleted, and rightfully so! But on an unrelated talk page of another article, no one cares. You basically admit it's wrong, but it's okay because it's hidden away and no one cares? Well, I care, that's why I brought it up. Since you've helped me confirm it's not alright, I'll edit them for you. Akerans (talk) 21:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * That is not what I meant in any way shape or form. And if you edit my comments, I will return them to their original form and report you to the nearest administrator. If you want to find an administrator to change them, be my guest. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  22:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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July 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions, including your edits to Talk:Beck University. However, please be aware of Wikipedia's policy that biographical information about living persons must not be libelous. Any controversial statements about a living person added to an article, or any other Wikipedia page, must include proper sources. If you don't know how to cite a source, you may want to read Referencing for beginners for instructions. Thank you. Akerans (talk) 23:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * So, I guess I'm not going to be setting my computer on fire anytime soon, am I? J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  00:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no need to gloat. Sorry to have wasted your time. Akerans (talk) 01:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not a problem. And I wasn't gloating, just making sure you were done. J  DIGGITY  (U ¢ ME)  01:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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With many thanks in advance for your participation from the coordinator team,  Roger Davies  talk 19:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Lincoln Memorial section
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The Bugle: Issue LXVI, August 2011
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The Bugle: Issue LXVIII, October 2011
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The Bugle: Issue LXIX, November 2011
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Military Historian of the Year
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The Bugle: Issue LXX, January 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012
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Ichthus: January 2012
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MOTDs (This space for rent)
You may have noticed over the past few days that the MOTD that you link to on your user page has simply displayed a red link. This is due to the fact that not enough people are reviewing pending MOTDs here. Please help us keep the MOTD template alive and simply go and review a few of the MOTDs in the list. That way we can have a real MOTD in the future rather than re-using (This space for rent). Any help would be appreciated! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:55, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXII, March 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXIII, April 2012
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Upcoming Wikimedia events in Missouri and Kansas!
You're invited to 3 exciting events Wikipedians are planning in your region this June—a tour and meetup at the National Archives in Kansas City, and Wiknics in Wichita and St. Louis:

The Bugle: Issue LXXIV, May 2012
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GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive
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The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012
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Military history coordinator election
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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013
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Christianity newsletter: New format, new focus
Hello, I notice that you aren't currently subscribed to Ichthus, the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. Witha new format, we would be delighted to offer you a trial three-month, money-back guarantee, subscription to our newsletter. If you are interested then please add your name tothis list, and you will receive your first issue shortly. From June 2013 we are starting a new "in focus" section that tells our readers about an interesting and important groups of articles. The first set is about Jesus, of course. We have also started a new book review section and our own "did you know" section. In the near future I hope to start a section where a new user briefly discusses their interests.-- Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 20:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVI, May 2013
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVII, June 2013
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXVIII, July 2013
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIX, August 2013
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WikiProject Military history coordinator election
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013
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The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013
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The Bugle: Issue XCII, November 2013
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The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013
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The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014
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The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014
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The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014
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The Bugle: Issue XCVII, April 2014
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Motto of the Day Help Request April 2014
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The Bugle: Issue XCVIII, May 2014
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The Bugle: Issue XCIX, June 2014
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The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CII, September 2014
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WikiProject Military history coordinator election
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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014, Redux
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The Bugle: Issue CIV, November 2014
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Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!
The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CV, December 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CVI, January 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CVII, February 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CVIII, March 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CIX, April 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CX, May 2015
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Quixotic plea
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Wikipediholism test. Thanks. —  06:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXI, June 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXII, July 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXIII, August 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXIV, September 2015
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WikiProject Military history coordinator election
Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 29 September. Yours, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:22, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXV, October 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXVI, November 2015
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ArbCom elections are now open!
Hi, You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXVII, December 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXVIII, January 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXIX, February 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXX, March 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXI, April 2016
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Nomination of Association of Churches for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Association of Churches is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Association of Churches until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Rathfelder (talk) 15:04, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXII, May–June 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIII, July 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIV, August 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXV, September 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVI, October 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXII, April 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVIII, October 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIX, November 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXL, December 2017
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User group for Military Historians
Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

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The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLV, March 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVI, April 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020
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The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXX, June 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIV, October 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, December 2020
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"Right and Wrong" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Right and Wrong. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 26 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Interstellarity (talk) 19:35, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive and create a worklist at WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022
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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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