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Can't Hold Us Down
Since when is swedishcharts.com an official site to judge what is a single? It doesn't even state that it is a single. I've given a reference stating that the song was released in 2014 and if that reference isn't good enough I'll give a better one. The only one adding incorrect changes is you by putting it under 2015. AAron 8967 (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It archives the Swedish Charts (And other countries as well) therefore I think it's an official site to judge. They recorded it in 2014, doesn't mean it was released in 2014. Also if you scroll back far enough on Axwell Λ Ingrosso's Instagram you'll find the same information from the artists them selves!Mn1548 (talk) 11:04, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * If you go to 69 weeks ago on their instagram they have information saying it was released in 2014. The music video for Can't Hold Us Down was released in 2015. And if a song enters a chart it does not make it a single. The Swedish Charts doesn't say that it is. I've given two references saying it was released in 2014 from complex and google play and I'll give another one from dej jam the record company their signed to.
 * If a song is released separate from and album, then it is released as a "single" format!Mn1548 (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
Stop using to carry out contentious edits or I will report you for sockpuppetry, which is inappropriate use of multiple accounts. Do not add spaces between certifications and references, as you did at Little Mix discography. Also, stop adding The X Factor to the "Album" column; the column says Album. Same goes with your IP edits at Sam Smith discography. Spectre the film is not an album. By the way, I know you are as well; you edit exactly the same topics and articles (and you also performed the same edit at Little Mix's discography concerning adding a TV series into the Album column). Ordinarily, using multiple accounts is not a problem but when you keep doing the things I and other users warned you not to, that's when there is and will be a problem.  Ss 112  12:16, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * How would one do that?Mn1548 (talk) 18:47, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You could just add the link to your old user page (User:Nathanaelsadgrove) after "Old Account Broke:" on your new user page. I can do it for you if you're unsure.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I mean code format, is it just the same as a standard page?Mn1548 (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Just type User:Nathanaelsadgrove and save it. Sundayclose (talk) 19:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mn1548 (talk) 19:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * - the link was removed, although Mn1548's back to the same kind of thing Nathanaelsandgrove collected the warnings for. Pinkbeast (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * As far as socking is concerned, I'm not too worried about the removal as the link is in the user page history as well as in this talk page section, and there has been no overlap in the account usage. --  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:48, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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May 2017
Please make sure the information in references you're deleting is contained in other references on the page. On Axwell and Ingrosso, you claimed in an edit summary that "individual peak chart positions refs are unnecessary as there are refs for the all peak chart positions at the top". The reference for the Flanders peak of "I Love You" is not in the reference at the top of the column, hence why I added it in the first place, so I have restored the reference. Do not remove it. Thank you.  Ss 112  16:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, thanks for fixing the mistake User:Mn1548

You claimed in your edit summary here "F.F.F." is a single and wrote "NOTE: Reference was included..." (cut off?) but yet you have provided no reference with your edit that indicates it is a single. The difference is "Galway Girl" and "Don't Let Me Be Yours" were both announced as singles. Has "F.F.F." been called a single?  Ss 112  19:21, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Ss112 The rest of that was "...reference was included but it prevented the edit from saving, if anyone could find a reference that worked it would be much appreciated". By the way if my references that I tried to include (from Billboard and YouTube) are incorrect, please correct the edit. The song did following the same release as the songs mentioned (One after the album it's from but wasn't given its own one songed album) thus is and should be classed as a single. User:Mn1548

Ina Wroldsen
Ina Wroldsen was not credited on "How Deep Is Your Love", so it is not appropriate to include the song in her discography, and it's been removed. I'm pretty sure you've been warned about this practice before. For instance, Beyoncé quite notably had her vocals on Coldplay's "Hymn for the Weekend" but the song is not on her discography because she was not officially credited. Putting "uncredited" next to it does not excuse it.  Ss 112  00:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Robin Schulz discography
I have moved the discussion to Talk:Robin Schulz discography, as it seems more appropriate for that page, as you are seeking changes to the page that may be controversial.  Ss 112  16:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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August 2017
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Avicii discography. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you.

Coldplay's songs did not gain those chart positions because Avicii remixed them. You're taking chart positions of songs that Avicii remixed after the fact, and attributing their success to Avicii. That's original research unless they are credited as being Avicii's remixes on sites. Do not reinstate said information to Avicii's discography without proof. This will be considered disruption and be reverted. If you want to reply, you can do so here, or discuss it on Talk:Avicii discography. There is no need to open a duplicate topic on my talk page.  Ss 112  15:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I never credited an Avicii remix of a Coldplay song; and secondly, I put no chart positions on the remix part of the table I split. However regarding the production table, surely those songs got there chart positions and certifications due to all the production and songwriting that went into making the song. My intent was to add the chart positions and certifications of those songs like in the rest of the discography. Note: I was unable to find an overall reference for the chart positions as the credit artists were different but references for the certifications were there and for Avicii producing the songs. Please tell me if given chart positions for production credits is a "no" for the reason that finding overall chart references are hard, or for any other reason as the no original research policy doesn't really say anything against as as the cerdit of "producer" has been made clear. Mn1548 (talk) 17:42, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, my mistake: I meant you created an unsourced chart table for Avicii's production work. It's original research because there were no references. If you can't find references for material you're adding, you shouldn't be adding it. Full stop. You also added fake peaks of Devil Pray: it didn't reach number 3 in France, let alone any chart, and its peak in Sweden was number 16 on the Digital chart, not the overall singles chart.  Ss 112  17:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. Charts and Certifications should be avoided for production credits. However I still think the table should be split and some songs removed as the apper in "As featured artist" as "Other charted songs". Mn1548 (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

DNCE discography
The album column does not mean "which albums is the song included on?" because if it did mean that, every compilation a song subsequently appears on should be listed too. Is it for other discographies? No. It means which album or release (EP, mixtape, compilation, live album and so on) it was released in promotion of. The note was there for a reason. Don't come along and disregard it because you think you know better. Thanks.  Ss  112   00:55, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Jackman Discography
Hello. Spotify is a streaming media WP is an encyclopedia. We don't refer to backing vocals on the track list and no this has nothing to do with WP:OR. Plus in Edit warring it does not matter who and why started it you just need to avoid it. So if you still have problems discuss it here first before reverting. CerberaOdollam (talk) 13:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Firstly, you made the edit with out discussing and the reason why backing vocalists are not normally included is because they are not normally credited but in this case they are so they should be added. Mn1548 (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


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September 2018
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to List of UK Singles Chart number ones of the 2010s. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you.  Ss  112   01:17, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * "Spectrum (Say My Name)", the remix, is the version which went number 1 not the album version called "Spectrum". And I think you'll find Calvin Harris was officially credited on the remix, which is why "Spectrum (Say My Name)" was originally on that list. I made the edit because I noticed it had been removed. Mn1548 (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The list did not previously state Calvin Harris had another number one with "Spectrum (Say My Name)" before you added it. Also, the Official Charts article you just cited doesn't actually say or credit Calvin Harris as a lead or featured artist. Nor does the cover art of the remix; nor does the article Spectrum (Say My Name). They just state that he remixed it. Where do we draw the line? Did Calvin also have another number one because he produced "I Will Never Let You Down" by Rita Ora, which went to number one? Also, Spotify was nowhere near as relevant as it is now in 2012 when that song went to number one, so I hardly see how what they choose to credit it as now matters. Spotify doesn't decide everything. What matters is that is not how the Official Charts Company credits it—according to them and all other media I've seen reporting on it, Calvin has had eight number ones on which he is credited according to the OCC.  Ss  112   10:21, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The list did previously state it as a number 1. That's how I realised it was missing. Spotify/Apple Music etc uses official credits for songs as I believe you pointed out previous regarding Beyoncé and Hymn for the Weekend. A production, while technically would count as being a number 1, we would not included as there are no official credits. A remix on the other hand is completely different as it is a different version of the original songs which in this case is quite important as the remix performed considerably better than the original. Finally the main article does credit the Calvin Harris remix as number 1 - read it "Spectrum (Say My Name)". Mn1548 (talk) 10:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, you added it to Harris' number ones on that list in 2017 and it was rightfully removed after that by another editor. Dude, I did read Spectrum (Say My Name), and you don't seem to know what I'm referring to: the infobox and the cover art contained on that article do not credit Calvin Harris as a lead or featured artist. The cover art does not say "Florence and the Machine & Calvin Harris" or even "featuring Calvin Harris". Linking me directly to the section titled "Calvin Harris remix" is unnecessary because that section doesn't really say anything different. Calvin is not credited by the Official Charts Company, who have specifically stated he's had eight number ones in the 2010s decade and ten overall here. Remixers are not always given lead or featured credit on the songs they remix. I'm done arguing with you, so if you tag or reply to me again, you're really wasting your time because you won't be getting another from me.  Ss  112   20:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at Avicii, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:45, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Vargas & Lagola are associated acts of Avicii. May I also point out that no acts on that list are sourced and neither is that section of the infobox sourced for the vast majority of other artists. Correct me if I'm wrong ut the definition of "associate act" that Wikipedia uses is a minimum of two or more collaboration (at least that's what it seems to be based of other edits of the same natute). By that definition the information I added to the Infobox is already sourced throughout the article and does not need to be resorced in the infobox as no other artist is. Mn1548 (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * "Correct me if I'm wrong"...I already did by reverting your edit and leaving a caution on your talk page. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Well then...Please do the next logical thing and explain why I'm wrong and what constitutes an "associate act" so this thing doesn't happen again. Mn1548 (talk) 07:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Any material added to an article that "is likely to be challenged" needs to include an inline citation, per Verifiability.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thats still not you answering the question I asked of "What is an associated act?" So seen as you're unable to let's do this properly. Template:Infobox musical artist states that an associated act should follow on of four criteria. One of which:

"Acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together"

Such times Vargas & Lagola have collaborated with Avicii include:
 * You Make Me
 * Hey Brother
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 * Friend of Mine
 * Without You
 * Peace of Mind
 * Tough Love
 * Excuse Me Mr. Sir

If this doesn't class as "collaborated on multiple occasions" then I don't know what does. Information is generally not sourced in infoboxs as it is a summary of the main article where such information is already sourced. Now do I need to source these here and now or are you able to click the links and see that the collaborations have been sourced on their respective pages and are also sourced on the main page as well! Mn1548 (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

July 2019
Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Phil Neville. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Please check the edit history and you will find that it is indeed sourced. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 12:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It should be sourced in the article itself. What use to our readers is a link when it's hidden away in an edit summary? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well realise the mistake and move it there then. Most things in the infobox aren't sourced like his position as England manager just to give an example. Putting the source in the edit summary is common practice for small infobox changes so please check the edit summary of an edit before you blindly revert it. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That content is already sourced in the prose. Please ensure that you cite content properly in future if you don't want to be "blindly" reverted. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:33, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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How much are you going to expand on these articles other than copying and pasting information from the parent article? This looks more like creating articles for the sake of it rather than providing a good experience for the reader who can no not read for example the complete account of the 2015 Challenge Cup without having to click through to another page? Also by copying and pasting as you have you are not complying with WP:COPYWITHIN and providing attribution as required of the contributions you have copied. Nthep (talk) 13:15, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem is there is a broken sequence of pages with only the 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2019 final pages existing. My plan was to link 2009 to 2019 together with a basic overview and expand later. All pages should ideally look like 2009 but 2019 would be the minimum. Mn1548 (talk) 14:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * OK but look at this the other way round. How much information is there in 2019 Challenge Cup Final that doesn't already exist in 2019 Challenge Cup? From the look of it not much, in fact three short paragraphs of uncited text.  Much better, imo would be to merge that content into 2019 Challenge Cup unless the intention is to provide an article in the detail of e.g. 2009 Challenge Cup Final.  WP:SIZESPLIT suggests that for articles that our Challenge Cup articles approximate in size splitting content out is only really necessary if  (WP:WHENSPLIT) which doesn't look to be the case with the 2007, 2008 and 2019 final articles. The 2009 final was appropriate to split off on the basis of WHENSPLIT but that is looking like the exception rather than the norm.  If you're prepared to do a 2009 on any of the others than I certainly wouldn't object but to split, actually little more than copy, content from an existing article runs in the face of WP:SPLITTING and the objective of providing a good reading experience to readers.


 * Strangely enough this is the second discussion on a similar topic today. I am also querying separate articles for the pool games for the 2021 RLWC on the same basis. What are they going to add that couldn't be included in the overarching 2021 RLWC article. Nthep (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * OK I see your point. My original approach to this was to create a basis overview and expanded later after connecting 2009 to 2019. But from this a one at a time approach is probably best. Creating one at a higher standard than bringing them all up gradually. Mn1548 (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Create a basis by all means but a) make sure you comply with WP:COPYWITHIN if you copy existing content and b) don't delete that content from the parent article until such time as it is worth summarising. So if an expansion of 2018 Challenge Cup Final starts with attributed copy from 2018 Challenge Cup ok but leave the copied content in 2018 Challenge Cup until such time as the Final article is much more expanded and then reduce the content in 2018 Challenge Cup - if necessary. It might be that the existing content is the reasonable summary of what's to be found in 2018 Final if the latter matches the 2009 Final article. There is a lack of good articles on rugby league and too many stubs/start class stuff which in many case is little more than a collection of stats about that player or season/competition. I've got one rugby league article to GA status and that took several weeks to do including all the researching. I started that in my sandbox and then merged it into the existing article when I felt there was enough to go on for it not to look half-finished. Pick an existing GA e.g. 2011 FA Cup Final and use that as a template to work from. It might be worth starting with 2009 Challenge Cup Final see if you can get that to GA status then you know the challenge for the other articles. Nthep (talk) 15:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * OK Thanks for the help. Mn1548 (talk) 15:13, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, you need to edit the Wigan-Saints rivalry page to the version you had it at Good Friday Derby and then request that an admin properly moves the Wigan-Saints rivalry page to Good Friday Derby over the redirect as cut and paste title changes are forbidden. may be able to further assist, they're an admin I've seen around on the RL pages. c87d98b10 09:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

County Cups
If you want to merge the articles then there probably needs to be a merge discussion first. These three articles have a chequered history and there looks to have been an undiscussed (afaik) and partial merger in 2019. Having a discussion should settle it once and for all. If they are merged then it needs to be done correctly to retain attribution and not just copying and pasting. Nthep (talk) 17:41, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

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Thatto Heath/St Helens women
Thatto Heath's history is separate from Saints as the women's team has continued after the formation of the Saints womens team. I know it was a wholesale move/co-operative approach but you can't credit THC achievements prior to 2018 to St Helens. Nthep (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The current Thatto Heath women's side is essentially the reserve / feeder team of St Helens women (See RFL statement on the team's acquisition). Therefore anything achieved by Thatto Heath pre St Helens takeover can be accredited to them as they are the same team. Mn1548 (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Debatable - that might have been the intention in 2018 but is that what has happened since? I doubt it. This isn't a simple renaming like Bradford Thunderbirds becoming Bradford Bulls where there is no dispute about the achievements carrying over, but similar to the Chorley Lynx situation, they weren't the inheritors of Blackpool Borough's heritage. Nthep (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * From the way I read the RFL article it seems clear that St Helens Women are the continuation of Thatto Heath. The current Thatto Heath, can't claim the heritage, as it's explicitly stated that they are the reserve team. It's therefore logical to state that St Helens does inherited the heritage of the original Thatto Heath as there is no mention of Thatto Heath exiting the league and later reforming like what happened Blackpool Borough. Also please elaborate on the phrase "is that what has happened since". Mn1548 (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Despite a hope expressed at the time there is nothing to show that since 2018 THC have acted at Saints women's reserve team. THC continue to play independently and as a 2020 article in the St Helens Star says "Saints Women took over from Thatto Heath Crusaders in taking the town's place in Super League in 2018."  It's a situation analogous to the purchase of Gateshead by Hull Sharks to keep Hull's Super League status. Nthep (talk) 20:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * There's another aspect to this as well, reputable sources like the BBC and Sky are reporting Saints as being the first team to win the Treble. Suggesting that their definition is Cup, League Leaders Shield and Super League Grand Final, not any precursor to the WSL in women's rugby league. Thoughts? Nthep (talk) 21:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * In terms of the clubs being separate, I have just seen an article on the St Helens Star saying that it is the club's first treble which would indicate separate clubs. What I would like to see in regards to this issue is an article on St Helens's or Thatto Heath's website explain the take over. In terms of the BBC stating it is the first ever women's treble I don't like. The definition of a treble in British rugby league, is League Leader and Grand Final in what ever first division league is currently running and the Challenge Cup which Thatto Heath achieved in 2016. The question is therefore is the RFL Women's Rugby League the predecessor of the RFL Women's Super League. The way both article are written suggested it was but there are no sources for it, so with out having to rewrite large parts of those articles when there aren't any sources to contradict what's already there I'd hold off on removing Thatto Heath as treble winners unless a good enough source can be found stating that the WRL was not the predecessors to the WSL and not an official top teir league for women's rugby league in the UK. Mn1548 (talk) 21:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't worry I wasn't planning on removing anything to do with THCs 2016 Treble, just to start the discussion over was it first or not. I see even the RFL are saying yesterday was the first though Nthep (talk) 08:25, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The only thing I can assume then is that in the WRL era there was no league leaders sheild awarded as a physical trophy. It's definitely safe to say it's the first treble of the WSL era, which is probably the best phrasing to use. Mn1548 (talk) 09:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * sounds like the safest bet. Nthep (talk) 10:34, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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I'll ask the question the other way round, what is notable about academy level matches or even series? I don't know if you read the recent RFC on WP:NSPORT but notability, albeit concentrating mostly on individuals rather than events, was heavily debated and that articles need to be more than statistical records. If there is more to the academy games than they took place then fine but just a list of scores?

Women's matches, not sure if victories are being counted in series or games. We could mention both but as prose not table entries. And yes it does need some context setting to show the notability.

As for colours, please see MOS:COLOR and MOS:DTAB, articles and tables should not be seas of colour as it makes it difficult for screen reading technology, let alone anyone else. I'm not totally taken with bold either, even though that was my choice and I will probably sandbox something else using the won, lost and drawn templates. Overuse of colour is a failing across lots of sports articles, and I think rugby league ones are some of the worst due to the number of navboxes in club colours we have knocking around and the preponderance of writing content in tabular form rather than prose. Nthep (talk) 08:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thankyou for the clarification. Mn1548 (talk) 10:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting the move on the World Cup article. Nthep (talk) 14:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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2023 Challenge Cup Finals
Are you sure that 2023 Challenge Cup Finals has separate notability? An article on the men's Challenge Cup final will be as always, the women's and the 1895 cup (not even a Challenge Cup). This article is likely to just become about the men's match and a see also for the others.

The only thing notable that I see is that all three are being played on the same day but even so that's a footnote to the matches themselves, not the headline. Nthep (talk) 14:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * TBH you're probably right with that. And honestly the whole thing could probably use a redirect to the Challenge Cup for the time being anyway. I seen on other pages when is one event stuff like this have been merged (contrary to say the FA Cup finals where they are two separate events on different days) but as you said the difference in notability between the men's and women's finals could lead to the women's final being overshadowed on that page. Maybe if the projected popularity in women's rugby occurs following the World Cup then the women's final might warrant its own pages, especially as it's now at Wembley. But the whole thing really needs a redirect at the moment now I'm thinking about it. Mn1548 (talk) 15:41, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Super League champions and league leaders
About your edit edit adding st Helen’s and Bradford to the league leaders column for 1996 and 1997. Since there was no grand final those years they don’t need to be in the league leaders column as they were the champions. Post 1998 champions and league leaders are different achievements and not necessary for 96-97 Northern Wonder (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * St Helens and Bradford were still league leaders that year. Just because league leaders and champions were the same thing doesn't discount them from being league leaders. Also putting not applicable in that column is factual incorrect as teams did finish first in regular season. Just because there was no playoffs doesn't remove league leaders as being such. Mn1548 (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Mn1548 (talk) The league leaders column is for teams who won the league leaders shield though. It’s a bit confusing having saints and Bradford in both columns when there was no league leaders shield, there was just champions and runners up
 * Surely the note explains that though, anyway its a lot less ambiguous now you've changed that column from "League Leaders" to "League Leaders' Shield" and that should make it clearer for people who haven't read the note. Mn1548 (talk) 12:38, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Anfield was removed from the schedule a whole year ago and replaced by the DW Stadium. Liverpool will no longer open the Women's tournament which has now gone to Leeds.

I have heavily improved the venues sections across all four RLWC 2021 articles in the last 24 hours. Given the short period of time I imagine there's a chance that you may have not noticed the edits but that section is (imo) to a really good standard that is consistent and relevant in its information to each tournament (and not just stadiums but training bases and etc.) I welcome a second pair of eyes and scrutiny over these edits but twice now you have done so citing inaccuracies in your summaries (though done in good faith). Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 14:56, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

In response to your edit summary I have now added bracketed information specifying the venues of the women's and wheelchair tournaments in the venue section (Special:diff/1117782519) with the rest already implied in that paragraph. A full read of the current page would not leave any unambiguity on this paticular issue without even the need to visit the individual articles.

In your edit summary you imply that there are missing capacities plural but I can only find this for English Institute of Sport. This was intentionally left (hence the dash) as the complex has no set capacity and will depend on the room they use (which will vary). I removed the needs fixing tag as I can not find any errors with that section. If you spot something specifically that you can not fix, please let me know and I will see if I can. Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 15:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * My appologies, I was aware that Anfield was no longer being used in the men's tournament but I thought it was still being used for the women's opener. Yeah, it's a bit hard keeping track of what's going on with these pages at the moment and exactly what should be on what page with the 2021 world cup now taking a different format in presentation to previous world cups. Sorry again. Mn1548 (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries, it makes sense that you might have thought it was still being used in the women's tournament as that is what it had said as late as a 20 October version before I recently edited it (which is probably hard to find as there were lots of edits in the edit history).
 * On the Opening Ceremony section, I left that in the men's tournament in the end as in fairness there is not really any reliable sources saying it won't happen in the other tournaments as much as there isn't any saying it will so I guess there is no point trying to change anything before the first women's game is played. You could very well be right. Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I've also altered the venues table a bit, just ordering them a but better. Thanks again. Mn1548 (talk) 15:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Cardiff Arms Park - a decision
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Hey, I just thought that having the teams split into separate maps, it would be easier to see them. But I'll leave it at it is now to avoid any arguments etc :)

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2026 world cups
I've got concerns that moving the articles from 2025 to 2026 is not the best way to go about things. I've posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby league as to why. Nthep (talk) 18:32, 3 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Concerns noted. I support your proposal on the wikiproject but as mentioned it does need to be done with proper linking between the two. Mn1548 (talk) 18:42, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

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Stadium names...
Why does nobody else bother about what Stadium names go on what pages? Why does it only bother you... One admin who also edits these pages never bothers me, so I don't get why it bothers you. I've never had any complaints from anyone except you... So why does it matter what names go on here..? And no, I'm not causing an argument... L1amw90 20:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * It matters because that is the policy and consensus in place on Wikipedia.
 * The fact that I have presented these to you and have politely ask you to follow them on mutiple previous occasions, and every time you have not bothered to reply to me and instead go back a re revert my edits often breaking tables and removing valid content and references in the process. Of course I have got frustrated.
 * You have never attempted to have a conductive conversation on this topic only do disruptive edits to pages for who knows what reason. This is your first attempt of having a conversation about this with me and you question was essentially "why does following Wikipedia policy and editor concensus matter?" If that is your view please stop editing.
 * Also you said "I've never had any complaints from anyone except you". I don't know if you ment that in relation to the stadium names or in general, but on your talk page, the last 50 edits (25 really because you delete everything) you have 3 complaints.
 * Also you said "every time I edit something, you immediately jump in my talk page". The last time I was on your talk page, looking at the edit history, we had a constructive discussion on formatting the Women's Super League season pages. So why you are seemingly incapable of having a constructive conversation on this topic is beyond me.
 * As editors we should be following policy and we have discussions if we want to change them. The concensus, as previously sent to you, is that we DO NOT use sponsored names where it can be avoided. So please, do not change the names of stadium in text, if they were to be refered to that way on Wikipedia, then their article would be called that name. Mn1548 (talk) 21:17, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

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Women's Super League
Hey, I've undone your edit for the women's playoffs etc, as I didn't think it made any sense. I thought it would be better to just use the structure they did for last season? I mean, if you want to re add it then fair enough, I just thought it would be easier for people to understand etc :). L1amw90 13:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


 * That's fair, will look to stucture similar to men's. Mn1548 (talk) 13:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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The Ashes (rugby league) merge
Came on wikipedia to do the merge myself and found it already been done. Great work new page is looking good!

EDIT: Sorry wasn't signed in when I posted that! Mollsmolyneux (talk) 16:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem, glad you like it. Mn1548 (talk) 16:39, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Cut and paste moves
Please don't do this any more. 2023 Rugby League European Championships wasn't the first time people have had to sort these out. If you don't know how to use the HELP:MOVE function then ask someone to do it for you. Nthep (talk) 14:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You've done another one here on Elite One Championship 2023–2024. Looks like a cut-and-paste from 2023–24 French Rugby League season, which additionally you have put a redirect into without making it a redirect. Redirects don't have content - you can't leave a load of content on a redirect page. I've tried to tidy it up by replacing the redirect with a link. You don't fully seem to understand a lot of how to move pages, how redirects work and how the MOS works - I'm happy if you want to check with me first before moving articles or putting in redirects, always willing to help. --Bcp67 (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * In this instance I don't see how I can move one page into three. From my understanding of the move function it just moves one page to another of a different name. Mn1548 (talk) 15:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The article you need to read then is WP:SPLITTING. The important issue overall is history attribution. If content has been put into article "A" by a series of edits, and then copied to article "B", the attribution has to be referred to like this: "Contents WP:SPLIT from Source article name; please see its history for attribution." And for copy-and-paste please read WP:HISTMERGE and understand about attribution. Bcp67 (talk) 15:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Elite One Championship 2023–2024
Hello Mn1548,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Elite One Championship 2023–2024 for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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Grahaml35 (talk) 00:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Leeds Rhinos–Wakefield Trinity rivalry for deletion
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Your submission at Articles for creation: 2024 Challenge Cup Final (May 14)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: 2024 Women's Challenge Cup Final (May 14)
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KylieTastic (talk) 18:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

June 2024
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AFDs
Hello, Mn1548,

Please do not mass-nominate articles for deletion discussions. While it may take you minutes to create an AFD page, participants in AFD discussions can spend hours looking for sources. This is not fair to the limited number of editors who participate in AFDs. Please pace yourself and limit your nominations to something like 5 per day. Otherwise what will happen is that all of these discussions will have few or no participants and keep getting relisted because the number of nominated articles is overwhelming.

You also didn't for form your AFD nominations correctly and a bot had to fix each one for you. Please read WP:AFD instructions carefully and follow them to the letter so that the article is tagged, the article creator is notified, a discussion page has been created and the discussion has been posted to the daily AFD log page. This process is made much easier if you would use WP:TWINKLE which will take care of the entire process for you. Consider using it in the future. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:55, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I did not consider that. It was my understanding that articles only got deleted following a strong concensus, and the AfD discussion wasn't time constrained. I will have a look a twinkle for the future. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 09:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Cumberland League
Hello, Mn1548,

AFDs like this are very confusing for other editors. You have your nomination statement (which is a Delete vote), then a second Delete vote which should be struck and then you turn around and argue for a Keep and Rename. Your stance is fluctuating and changing. What you need to do is STRIKE any earlier opinions that don't reflect your current opinion, do not "vote" more than once, ever, and if you change your mind about an AFD nomination, make a formal withdrawal but stating this withdrawal right underneath your original nomination statement. But first of all, think through your nominations carefully before making them. You should have a clear enough opinion about whether or not an article should be Kept or Deleted that your opinion doesn't change over the course of a week for apparently no reason. If you are unsure about an article, then don't make a deletion nomination.

There are no bonus points for nominating lots of articles for deletion, if an article can be improved through editing or better sourcing, then spend time on that rather than nominating an article for deletion. If articles you nominate for deletion are being closed as Keep then maybe you should reflect on whether your standards are too high or you haven't done sufficient BEFORE to unearth quality sources. I guess I'm arguing for you to slow down, only vote once in an AFD and handle your nominations more thoughtfully. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, thankyou for this message. While I understand the points made in this message, I believe here that the AfDs were somewhat needed in this particular case. The rugby league WikiProject seems to get very little discussion on talk pages in which I have approached the subject of UK amature rugby league in the past with no or no meaningful outcome. Sources are hard to find on the subject and while officials pages exist, the fact the some of the leagues I've AfDed have two sometimes even three articles on what is practically the same subject making it hard to determine what should be kept and what should go. Plus how poorly some of them are written and how out of date they are doesn't help either, hence why I thought is was necessary to AfD them all based on WP:TNT. In regards to the option changes, it's because of editors finding appropriate sources which I have been unable to, some articles of this series that I AfDed did get deleted because no sources could be found, and other have been cleaned up and at least now have a few sources allowing them to be more easily worked on later. Overall, I just wanted this message to explain what I've done and why I've done it here as supposed to a talk page which for more visible (for lack of a better word) articles, the talk pages would be noticed and a discussion could be had there. But thankyou for the advice on how to handle this sort of stuff in the future. Mn1548 (talk) 07:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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