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The Phil Barker page was proposed for deletion 2 years ago - the result delete. After two years it is reasonable to revisit the issue but I suggest the creator of this page check out the procedure for changing a decision like this. Anyone who knows anything about wargaming will agree that Phil Barker is notable and his influence for good or ill ~on wargaming has been huge. None the less, it is the wider wiki community that has to be convinced.Dejvid (talk) 12:20, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that Dejvid - I wasn't aware of this as it wasn't flagged when I did my check on writing an article. The deletion record seems to have been a very limited discussion about it being a stub without any external refs. Someone even suggests rewriting it to a better standard, which I hope I have. I'm pretty new to this so thanks again for your constructive guidance Monstrelet (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * See the comments on Talk:Phil Barker by Elen of the Roads . I'm no expert on this but to be for warned is to be for armed.Dejvid (talk) 13:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hello there.I noticed you had reverted my edit.I have a ref which supports what happend in the battle.When Edwards Knight were engadged the scottish pikemen the English combined attack with archers failed and were pushed to the right flank.Robert the Bruce then engadged his light cavalry to chase down the archers since the archers wernt able to fully mobilise.

http://books.google.com/books?id=6J6-ZD9l6bIC&pg=PA49&dq=the+battle+of+bannockburn+scottish+army&as_brr=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false

I think this main engagement with the English archers must be mentioned.So what do you think???Goodbye.

Thanks youre a great help.Also I added the fact that the scots used yew stave longbows but gave a further explanation they had largely inferior archers and skills.I got it from that book I mentioned to you.Goodbye and thanks again.--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 09:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello again.Page 63 in this book called Bannockburn 1314 Robert the Bruce victory suggests that there was only 500 scottish archers present in the battle.Should I add it?Thanks Again.--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 09:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I missinterpeted I meant the accounts itself.Yes,the English archers were pushed in front of the lines and a shoot-out began between both the English and Scottish Archers.Few kills were excanged at first but then the King of England's archers put them to flight.The scottish archers engadged the infantry with battle axes towards the end and this caused pressure on the English ranks.The English accidentily mistaken camp followers as soldiors when they emerged from the forrosts and so they withdrew out of exhaustion.The have always been potrayed by evidence concerning the battle as having very few archers and little cavalry.

Hello again.I will definitely agree on you that the numbers differ very hugely from source to source.I also anknowledge the fact that Robert the Bruce learned from Falkirk 1298 by employing his own Longbowmen.I think though it would rather be convincing that he could have only fielded a small number of medicore archers.In a rational sence it takes in least a decade to gain proficiency with the bow and such archery was immensely disregarded in most of scotland (and only emerging in England for that matter).Archery wasnt anknowledged in scotland until the reign of James I in 1424 when he declared Archery Law.I wouldnt have expected Bruce to have fielded an immense group of archers.I am not even sure if any scottish chronicler has ever even commented regarding the battle any strong scottish archery playing a role at all and surely no source present credits a potential group of archers pressent on there side.When the Welsh archers were driven by the Men at arms the tide of the battle changed.Barbour whom was pressent at the battle wrote "So fast that if there shooting had presisted it would have gone hard for the scots".Bruce knew better then the English by having those cavalry pressent.Goodbye and have a nice-day.--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 10:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I missinterpeted I meant the accounts itself.Yes,the English archers were pushed in front of the lines and a shoot-out began between both the English and Scottish Archers.Few kills were excanged at first but then the King of England's archers put them to flight.The scottish archers engadged the infantry with battle axes towards the end and this caused pressure on the English ranks.The English accidentily mistaken camp followers as soldiors when they emerged from the forrosts and so they withdrew out of exhaustion.The have always been potrayed by evidence concerning the battle as having very few archers and little cavalry.Bannackburn sets the example of an infantry victory over cavalry rather then archers.Since it was largely due to the bad commanding of Edward II.The English and Welsh archers whom by themeselves could have won the battle.I will continue to believe that archery had little to do as the reseault over cavalry.It seems more of an infantry victory.Most of the scottish archers at the battle had medicore skill.The scots followed the tactic of Courtrai in 1302 when mass units of pikemen pushed back engaging French Knight.What the Flemings and Scottish militias succuse achieved,represented the developement of a new tactic:The aggresive rush of massed infantry and the co-ordination of archers and cavalry.The favoured weapon in scotland was the spear not the bow and wasnt popular.Goodbye

Read the section on scottish archery page 31.

http://books.google.com/books?id=nh5PYvX00e4C&pg=PA44&dq=Battle+of+Bannockburn+1314&lr=&as_br.r=3#v=onepage&q=infantry&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=FCubHE9s6yQC&pg=PA35&dq=Battle+of+Bannockburn+1314+scottish+archers&lr=&as_brr=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false

--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 15:58, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello Monstrrelet.I'm asking if Neil Amstrongs book on Bannackburn is reliable.He says near the first few pages there was about 1500 scottish archers but then he later says in page 63 that there in least 500 scottish archers strong in least that day where was the other 1000 at that time.Thanks--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 16:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

This is my copy from the Bannockburn talkpage.


 * Greetins to you both.Page 63 in this book called Bannockburn 1314 Robert the Bruce victory suggests that there was only 500 scottish archers present in the main battle but as Monstrelet said Neil Amstrong sugests a total of 1500 archers.The question itself if it is indeed 1500 archers where did the other 1000 archers dissapear from the scence?Scottish Archers carried battle axes and disdained missile and often liked to engadge in a close melee,as said by this book http://books.google.ie/books?id=RHQHAQAAIAAJ&q=Scottish+archers&dq=Scottish+archers.Also the book also states on page 31 that before King Roberts reign scotland had been hugely deficient of archers.There is evidence that Robert I changed the feudal obligation of knight service to archer service.A Knights fee was to supply 10 archers.However a bow(short) is clearly different from a longbow.Most of The archers of scotand were recruited from the Borders and low-lands since they were the most anlicised in manner.I wouldnt expect the scots have such a high amount of archers if there amount of cavalry was pretty little anyway.If they used the longbow it takes in least 10-15 years of practice to gain profficiency and also there skill is completely medicore.This all implyes to those archers because they engaded the English archers on the second day at dawn and were quickly put to flight by the English ones.1500 scottish archers is too high and anyway Amstrong even admits that there is no evidence of the proportion that was meant for the scots concerning pikemen and archers.A scottish ordinniane and parliamiant was held in scone 1318 near Perth adressing many angles of importance but an intresting one is that when it specificly aimed at those second category of men worth goods to a value of a cow were expected to equip themeselves with either a spear or a bow.The first(spear) was the most favored of that category.Scottish pikemen have been trained by Robert the Bruce to engadge in the move(litterely push them of the battlefield) to makethemselves harder targets for English archers.There is no evidence of trained scottish archers at the time of Bruce.Those very few good archers came from ettirick forest on the Borders as at Falkirk 1298.Unfortunatly I would have to disagree with Monstrelet on the argument that the scots had a wide range of archers since there is no evidence for this as far as I have read.Archery Law as I previously stated wasnt introduced until by King James in 1424 when he returned from English captivity.http://books.google.ie/books?id=x1QCAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA18&dq=The+scottish+archers+had+weak+skill#v=onepage&q=&f=false . This here states that English skill with the bow is indisputibly better then that of any scotsmen frenchmen ect.Archery Law was established twice in scotland both were a failuire.The French Francs-Archers formed by Charles VII in 1448 later turned out to be weak archers whom had no intrest in defending France or in archery and were no more a ruthless band of thugs so were quickly disbanded in 1435.Golf and football is propably a main reason for scottish indescisiveness with the bow in archery.Read this book Otterburn 1388.http://books.google.ie/books?id=5wEZgyYnoikC&pg=PA24&dq=Scottish+Archery+in+medievial+times&lr=&as_brr=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false .It says that the scottish archers were drawn from the borders and low-lands but they did not match the English archers in number or in there tactical skil.Scottish corps of archers continued to be a minority in the scottish army.1500 Archers is way to high.http://books.google.ie/books?id=KCl1l35K-IcC&pg=PA39&dq=Scottish+Archery+in+medieval+times&lr=&as_brr=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false .Also Robert the Bruce only stayed because of bad morale in the English camp.Scottish archers were only considerd a minority to Robert I not an accomplishement of victory.Bruce thought of having a sizeable amount of Longbowmen would counter the English ones but he could have never have recruited a huge nuber of them.The scottish archers were a small amount at Bannockburn and Falkirk.Goodbye and hope to see you again.--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello Monstrelet thanks for your reply about scottish archery on the Bannockburn talkpage.I would like to explain a few points to you about the difference between the short bow,crossbow and longbow in government records at the time of Edward II.I found a book about the battle of Falkirk(1298) regarding archers.The same as usual n quote that they had hugely deficient archers and that archery was not a strong tradition in scotland.http://books.google.com/books?id=ykx5PcLxu-0C&pg=PA28&dq=Ettrick+Bow+and+lonbow&as_brr=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false .Of course they had a tradition (as does other countries) but as said in the book far from strong.Certainly the scots fought as mercenairies but they wernt allways archers or in fact had to be.Scottish mercenaries were employed by the french but in large amounts over-time.At the battle of Verniuil(1424),the English were commanded by the regent of France John the Duke of Bedford against the french led by the constable of France.The English archers were thought to have engadged the scottish archers but the scots were also put to flght.The last of Charles VII scottish allies were destroyed in this battle and the very last few fought at Heerings(1429) not as archers but as axemen.They also lost that battle.You might have heard of Edward III Yeamon of the Gaurd which was a 120 archer gaurd for the soveriegn.The French copied this idea and formed the scots gaurd(genndairimie das esscois) in 1418 by John Stewart but rarely fought in open-pitched battle with the exception if the French king as at battle in person like at the battle of Patay during the Italian Years War.Unfortunatly,the name Scots Gaurd became moot over time since Frenchmen started to fill up those ranks.Francs archers formed in 1448 were supposed to exercise the principle of archery at the church parishes.However the principle wasn't at all effective and was never even put to practice.When they went to church at sunday there are accounts of francs-archers plundering and looting goods.Charles de Bold convinced Louis XI after Guingaite (1479) when the french archers were exposed badly that they were not the best solution and started employing swisss pikemen.francs-archers had no exprerince or trainaing at all and during the italian years war they were nothing more then plunderers.They were also exposed really badly at Ravenna 1512 when the Gascon Archers ran off the battlefield.francs archers were said to only kill chickens not soldiors.The french drill with the use of the bow was not proficcient.http://books.google.com/books?id=hdh4Elj-3WEC&pg=PA513&dq=francs+archers+were+bad#v=onepage&q=&f=false .Louis XI even if he did not formally disband them let them freeley deterioate.http://books.google.com/books?id=xj8FAAAAIAAJ&q=francs+archers+were+bad&dq=francs+archers+were+bad&lr=

.http://books.google.com/books?id=OJQ9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA120&dq=francs+archers+were+bad&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false .http://books.google.com/books?id=6PyBAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA208&dq=francs+archers+were+bad&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false .Back to archery in general,the difference between short-bows and longbows are given in this government record.The most prominint was the longbow with an average length of two ells(2.3m),a thickness of 4 thumbs(10 cm) and could discharge a clotharrow arrow(1m or 3ft).The next was the turkish bow and was a composite-bow of shorter length(1.5-1.7m) which fired a wolfarrow.It was made of horn.yew and glue and with its two arms bieng bend forward against the way of the recurve.The third was an elm bow(short bow).Its lenght is not mentioned and it dischared a scottish barbed arrow.It would seem therefore the difference between the short bow and the longbow is the constuction of wood.So,as long as the bow has a yew construction and measures 2.3 m approx.Then it could therefore be correct to term it as a longbow.The Normans at Hastings used yew stave bows but were only 4 feet tall so are not taken as bieng longbows.http://books.google.com/books?id=utafxJAR63YC&pg=PA50&dq=Robert+Hardy.Longbow+of+Welsh+origin&as_brr=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false .Goodbye--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

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I feel that I must give some explanations after your comment regarding an edit-war in the article Stratioti. Yes, the historic incident in question may be evaluated as a minor one from the military point of view. But the inflaming quotation is very big. When dealing with history in WP you must have in mind that you may accidentally tackle a national myth. Most nations have one or two of them and Albanians, besides Skanderbeg, have the national myth of continuity of their nation from antiquity till today. Well, you may argue that the Greeks have the same, although this "myth" is more real. The theme of Stratioti is perfect to beef up the existence of an Albanian nation in middle ages, since the term "Albanian" (whatever it means) occurs frequently in relevant sources. So, they overcharged the article with "Albanian stratioti". The occurence of the phrase "We are children of the Greeks" in the mouth of a Stratioti, was an Albanian anticlimax, though, and this is the reason why they are desperate to erase it. On the other hand, the vivid narration of Noukios on foreign mercenaries in England should not be neglected, from the historian's point. One may find there valuable material regarding their lives, their attidutes, military ethics etc. In this quotation you find the invocation of an "ancient glory" which is something rare in a period and place where consciousness of deep-rooted national history barely existed. I hope to see you around and discuss more on the old question "what is the use of history?".--Euzen (talk) 13:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

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If ther 'translation' is a 'common misconception' why is it 1. in the article (I didn't add it, just moved it; and you didn't remove it) 2. why son't you add the correct interpretstion? Paul B (talk) 16:07, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that my previous comment sounded rather curt. Ah, Hardy. Oddly, the only reason I edited the article was that I'd just been watching the young Hardy playing Henry V in An Age of Kings. Unusually, Erpinghasm is played by the same actor who plays Bardolph. Anyway, that's all rather by the by. At the moment the fact that Erpingham came out with an odd word seems to be just left hanging. I read somewhere thst it might have been something to do with striking in stakes, but I guess the best thing is to give the source, context and the various interpretations. Paul B (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXII, May–June 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIII, July 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIV, August 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXV, September 2016
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Military history WikiProject coordinator election
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVI, October 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016
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Voting for the Military history WikiProject Historian and Newcomer of the Year is ending soon!
Time is running out to voting for the Military Historian and Newcomer of the year! If you have not yet cast a vote, please consider doing so soon. The voting will end on 31 December at 23:59 UTC, with the presentation of the awards to the winners and runners up to occur on 1 January 2017. For the Military history WikiProject Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017
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March Madness 2017
G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:


 * tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
 * updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
 * creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXII, April 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017
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Spear – a book reference with no book title
Hi, in August 2009 you have significantly expanded the 'Medieval history' section of the Spear article (special:diff/306376166). The new text contains a reference to some book by Paul Martin, but it lacks the book title! It is a ref to the sentence about a 'winged spear', “which had two prominent wings at the base of the spearhead, either to prevent the spear penetrating too far into an enemy or to aid in spear fencing”. Was the book “ARMOUR AND WEAPONS”? --CiaPan (talk) 07:20, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017
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Draft:Battlefield
I plan to propose moving this draft to mainspace a week from tomorrow, to give editors time to improve it as much as possible in that time frame. I would welcome your review of the images in that time. I made, I think, a solid effort to pick images relevant to the sections in which they were placed, and to draw from a diverse range of periods and locations. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:51, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017
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Stirrup "Theory" revert
I changed it from theory to notion, because theory is a proven concept, like the theory of evolution, whereas the hypothesis (I would have used that, but it had already been used right before) of "stirrups caused Feudalism" is just an idea, hypothesis, notion, suggestion at this point. Change it to whatever you see most fit to convey that notion --Kar98 (talk) 22:40, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017
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2017 Military history WikiProject Coordinator election
Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway. As a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 29 September. Thank you for your time. For the current tranche of Coordinators, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVIII, October 2017
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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIX, November 2017
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2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting
As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the Military Historian of the Year and the Military History Newcomer of the Year. The co-ordinators invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: here and here. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXL, December 2017
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User group for Military Historians
Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

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The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018
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April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive
G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:


 * tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
 * adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
 * updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
 * creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018
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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
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Have your say!
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The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018
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The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018
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Nominations now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Nominations for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards are open until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2018. Why don't you nominate the editors who you believe have made a real difference to the project in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018
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Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Voting for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards is open until 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December 2018. Why don't you vote for the editors who you believe have made a real difference to Wikipedia's coverage of military history in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLV, March 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVI, April 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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Backlog Banzai
In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark
G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019
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Mystery artillery pictures on Commons
I noticed at WP:MILHIST that you're interested in mystery artillery pictures. There are many of these in Category:Unidentified artillery on Commons. I ID'd a number of these over the last few years; you might want to give it a try. RobDuch (talk·contribs) 21:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020
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The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXX, June 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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Agincourt
Can I know why you reverted my edit despite the sources I was the one to link backing my claim up? I was the one to put Mortimer and Rogers as sources in front of 25,000 thousands and forgot to mention valets were not fighting men. Have you actually checked the sources out before reverting it? Jules Agathias (talk) 21:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXIV, October 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020
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Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open
G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, December 2020
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Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing
G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive and create a worklist at WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nomination period closing soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are still open, but not for long. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! No further nominations will be accepted after that time. Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced
Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Appropriate questions for the candidates can also be asked. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:39, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting period closing soon
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024
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