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Palisades Center
Happy New year, perhaps you can find something here http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=forever+21+palisades+mall&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 to update this listing of retail establishments on the page of the drive up retail and entertainment container presently entried.Masterknighted (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Jersey City
Why did you remove all the sources I added and copyediting that I did to the passage on the HBLR artwork? Nightscream (talk) 19:21, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I had meant to reinsert the one paragraph that had been removed, but I may have accidentally edited the wrong version. I had no intention whatsoever for undoing any of your other edits to the article and I will fix them immediately. Thanks for bringing this to my attention and for catching the error. Please accept my apologies for my mistake. Alansohn (talk) 19:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The accidentally deleted material has been reinserted. Again, sorry for my mistake. Alansohn (talk) 19:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Problem with IP editor
It's late. I'll get to them tomorrow when I have a fresher brain. Daniel Case (talk) 06:15, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't tend to help with admin tasks by request unless its a template fix. Just not my style, also I can't really atm. Mitch 32( Never support those who think in the box ) 05:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've been out of North America for two weeks. I won't touch any dispute involving Jimbo; burnt too often.  Sorry I can't help. Bearian (talk) 04:25, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you can specify the issue, I could possibly help you "process" the concern. By the time I got back, Jimbo's talk page had been cleaned up. Bearian (talk) 18:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I put in my two cents about the substantive issue already. In summary, if we want to have common sense, to be fair to alleged crime victims, and to be somewhat consistent based on precedent, the names of crime victims and unindicted conspirators should be redacted, excepting truly extraordinary circumstances. Bearian (talk) 21:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * About your other questions:
 * "3. Editor 70.245.209.94 continues to include the name of Kobe Bryant's accuser on the article talk page, and the IP talk page. If you summarily agree with the above that removing her name is necessary, then is it a blockable offense for someone to continue mentioning her name on the talk page in new talk page messages? And if it's not so clear-cut, would that mean that it's okay to mention it?" Yes, I agree with: "Any material that would be retracted from an article for BLP purposes should be immediately redacted from a talk page. Herostratus (talk) 07:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)"
 * "4. Editor 70.245.209.94 repeatedly violates WP:AGF by accusing me of harboring a bias against Bryant, that arguing that omitting the accuser's name implies guilt on Bryant's part (even though it's common for reputable news organizations to omit the names of alleged rape victims). ... if an editor continues to violate AGF with repeated accusations, is this a blockable offense?" Yes, I agree with: "Yes, especially with a response like that indicating an appeal to logic would be completely lost on the respondent. However, get someone else to make the block. Daniel Case (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)"
 * "5. I know that talk page etiquette allows editors to respond to other editors' messages by placing responses to certain passages in the middle of the first speaker's message.... I dislike this practice... Is this acceptable? Shouldn't the initial editor have some say in that? If so, and editor 70.245.209.94 continues to mutilate my messages, is that a blockable offense? Nightscream (talk) 04:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)" You may have to live with it; sometimes fisking is better than a single response. Bearian (talk) 21:27, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, an example of a rape victim who became independently notable was Jacinta Eagle Deer. Bearian (talk) 20:01, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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Lou Ferrigno
Nightscream, While I understand that it's an article about Ferrigno, I don't see how shortening the entry to a very short sentence is making it better. The way it is now, makes it sound like he is again doing the voice in the The Avengers. Also, I think it's a good idea to mention that he is only the voice and not the physical characteristics. That's why the rest was relevent, and not just added for no good reason. --Musdan77 (talk) 00:31, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

FYI, in case you don't know, I have replied to you on my talk page. --Musdan77 (talk) 22:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Superman Curse
Hi, Nightscream. You posted a question on my talk page regarding the entry I made to the Superman Curse article.

The book Superman on Broadway by Bob Holiday and Chuck Harter was self published by Mr. Holiday in 2003. The reason that you can't find it on amazon.com is because it is only available through limited web sites like the Superman Superstore or from Mr. Holiday himself.

Superman on Brodaway does not mention the purported "Superman Curse," but as a personal friend of Bob Holiday's, I can assure that he has not been cursed by playing Superman. On the contrary, on page 98 of his book, he writes, "I was very proud to 'take care' of Superman in the 1960's...." Further, on his personal web site, he says "Having played Superman was a special and lasting honor for me."

I would also refer you to an article by Brian McKernan: http://paranormal.about.com/od/humanenigmas/a/superman_curse.htm.

I hope that all this serves as adequate documentation for the entry I've made at Superman Curse. Thank you for following up to make sure that Bob Holiday was appropriately presented in the article. Birdplaneexpert (talk) 20:46, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Birdplaneexpert


 * Hello again, Nightscream. I appreciate your explanation on my talk page about the reason you feel it appropriate to remove Bob Holiday from the Superman Curse article.


 * I now understand that having personal knowledge constitutes original research, and so it was inappropriate for me to mention it here. My apologies. Your response also makes it much more clear why you were asking me for information about the book Superman on Broadway. With this additional information, may I please make a case at this time for why Bob Holiday should be included in the Superman Curse article?


 * First, Bob Holiday is an important part of the Superman legacy as the one and only actor to have played Superman on Broadway. He actually played Superman more times than any other actor. Whether or not he was cursed by playing the role is a critical part of the discussion. To leave him out of the article is to leave out an important part of the evidence.


 * Second, his autobiography, Superman on Broadway, is devoted to what an honor it was to have played Superman and how much the role benefitted his life. Since there was not a Superman Curse article at the time the book was written, nor was "Superman Curse" a widely disseminated phrase (McKernan's article not appearing until the next year), it would be arguably impossible for Mr. Holiday to have mentioned a "Superman Curse" in his book. The very fact that no hint of a curse was mentioned is proof that he did not experiecne one. In fact, in the introduction to Superman On Broadway, co-author Chuck Harter says this (page 5), "Recently, I found myself in contact with none other than Bob Holiday! He is a man who is happy, healthy and very content with his creative career as the owner of his own homebuilding business. He is quick with a humorous phrase and still enjoys singing a good song. ... Bob has always been and still is a genuine Superman fan. I feel this contributed to his excellence in the role." What more could be said refuting that Bob was untouched by the possible Superman Curse?


 * Third, there is no discussion anywhere online nor in print that even whispers that Bob Holiday was cursed by playing Superman. Thus the lack of evidence is sufficient reason to include him under the sub-heading "Superman actors not generally believed to have become victims of the curse." The very rules of logic force his inclusion precisely because he is "not generally believed to have become [a victim] of the curse."


 * Recently, Mr. Holiday was interviewed by author Mark Edlitz (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2011/09/24/the-singing-superman-bob-holiday-a-slice-of-scifi-interview/). Mr. Edlitz asked specifically what the worst part of being associated with Superman is. Mr. Holiday -- after referencing taking a six-foot fall when his harness broke on Broadway -- said, "Other than that, there’s no downside to having played Superman, no down side at all." I believe this may be precisely the reference you are looking for. If there's "no downside," then there's "no curse."


 * Finally, you should know that a long-time fan of Mr. Holiday's contacted me this week to ask why Bob was not included in the article. His absence was glaring to this individual.


 * I ask that you consider these important facts, and to please restore Bob Holiday to the Superman Curse article. Birdplaneexpert (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia blackout
I just got a press release from the Wikipedia Foundation saying English-language Wikipedia is staging a 24-hour blackout on Wednesday to protest (as well it should) the SOPA legislation before Congress. Darn good way to get people's attention to that frightening bill.--Tenebrae (talk) 01:33, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Here's the press release. I've gotten releases from Jay before, so without calling him (as I would do were I writing a story), I believe this is genuine.


 * From: Jay Walsh 
 * Reply-To: 
 * Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:09:17 -0800
 * To: 
 * Subject: English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA


 * English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA


 * San Francisco -- January 16, 2012 -- On January 18, 2012, in an unprecedented decision, the Wikipedia community has chosen to blackout the English version of Wikipedia for 24 hours, in protest against proposed legislation in the United States — the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and PROTECTIP (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate. If passed, this legislation will harm the free and open Internet and bring about new tools for censorship of international websites inside the United States.


 * Wikipedia administrators confirmed this decision Monday afternoon (PST) in a public statement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action#Summary_and_conclusion):


 * Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a "blackout" of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support.


 * “Today Wikipedians from around the world have spoken about their opposition to this destructive legislation," said Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia. "This is an extraordinary action for our community to take - and while we regret having to prevent the world from having access to Wikipedia for even a second, we simply cannot ignore the fact that SOPA and PIPA endanger free speech both in the United States and abroad, and set a frightening precedent of Internet censorship for the world."


 * We urge Wikipedia readers to make your voices heard. If you live in the United States, find your elected representative in Washington (https://www.eff.org/sopacall). If you live outside the United States, contact your State Department, Ministry of Foreign Affairs or similar branch of government. Tell them you oppose SOPA and PIPA, and want the internet to remain open and free.

I don't imagine the Foundation would mind one bit about this posting of the release.--Tenebrae (talk) 01:48, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It sounds like fun. Saturday is only day off, though, so I'm usually pretty dead. Getting to the NY Comic Con was a major achievement for me! --Tenebrae (talk) 04:40, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Block of User:125.7.71.6
User:125.7.71.6, whom you blocked on 3 January, is requesting unblocked. I'm inclined to agree with the request. To me, it looks like User:Jojalozzo gave the IP address a level 1 warning for a biased edit (which was a legitimate warning) on Ecosystem. Then, 50 minutes later, with no intervening edits by the IP, you blocked for a month. Yes, this IP address has been blocked before, but not for over a year, and they appears to be for unrelated issues--that is, it's not the same person coming back and vandalizing all of the time. It's also not a public/school IP, so it's not like we should suspect it will regularly be used for bad edits. Do you mind if I unblock this user? Qwyrxian (talk) 05:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Unblock request on User:125.7.71.6". Thank you. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Martin Freeman
Hi Nightscream, I deleted an empty row for the year 2011 in the films table of Martin Freeman. You inserted it again with your last edit. Perhaps I did not understand how wikitables work, but what is the purpose of this empty row? I would be happy to get a reply and please indulge me I'm a new user and English is not my first language. --Killikalli (talk) 17:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Matt Stone
Hi again N. Noticed the activity on Matt's article and just wanted to say thanks. I appreciate the time you took to double check everything in your talk page post. I tried to get you tickets to go see the Book of Mormon that opens here in Denver later this year but they sold out in five hours :-( I wouldn't have been able to afford the airfare to get here anyway :-(( Hope you are well and have a great 2012 on wiki and off. MarnetteD | Talk 16:27, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have heard nothing but good things about it and I do hope you get to see it one day. Since Matt and Trey are from Colorado we were happy to hear the news that its first road version was opening here. Sadly it is only going to be here for a week so I am hoping to get tickets on a return visit that will (hyopefully) last longer. Hope you get to feeling better soon. MarnetteD | Talk 17:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:A History Channel Thanksgiving and WP:CIV
Don't send me any more of your little "corrections," okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.76.228 (talk) 03:52, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Fine! Is your little Wikipowertrip over? I may not have 66,000 edits under my belt (Unfortunately I have to dedicate my time to non-computer things once in awhile) but I certainly don't need to be corrected for every minor infraction. Fascistic tendencies being innately human, I can't blame you for getting all snippy - you live here. Now let's be on our ways! I'll give you the last word - I can tell you want it. Then go away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.76.228 (talk) 04:20, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Sheesh! What is wrong with me? I don't know why I lashed out like that. I've learned my lesson. Please don't send me away! I'll be good from now on. Real good. Look, I'll sign my comment! User 76.119.76.228 Is that right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.76.228 (talk) 04:47, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking about it today. I'd been a jerk last night. I want to apologize again. What would Wikipedia be without contributions from people such as yourself, who are dedicated to learning and understanding how it works - and making it work. I'll admit that your matter-of-fact assertion and fluent recitation of WP policy was a bit off-putting. Intimidating, really. I reacted like a cornered animal. Only in hindsight did I realize that it's thanks to guys and gals like you who've helped to mold this site into the most incredible repository of human knowledge ever to exist. Thanks again! 76.119.76.228 (talk) 01:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Mariska Hargitay
that was my sister's edit, she's obsessed with her, i'll tell her to create an account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.130.117.104 (talk) 07:18, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day at NYU
Responded on my talk page, thanks.--Pharos (talk) 01:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Kat Von D
This is a neutral notice of an RfC for a page on which you have been an editor. If you wish to participate, the discussion is taking place here. --Tenebrae (talk) 03:57, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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Synthesis
Would you please explain why you call this edit synthesis. Debresser (talk) 04:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Explained on my talkpage that this was a mistake. Will unwatch this talkpage now. Debresser (talk) 18:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Brian P. Stack and District 33
In regards to your recent edit, I guess that I look at the inclusion of information about a legislator's co-representatives as being *about* the legislator himself. To me, the fact that Stack serves in the legislature with Sean Connors and Ruben Ramos is important information about Stack, rather than about District 33. As a standard throughout WikiProject:New Jersey we have added legislative district details for all 120 legislators, though I will acknowledge that there are a few articles to be written for legislators who first took office in 2012, as for Sean Connors. I agree that there should be an overall policy, but the policy that exists now is that they are added to all such articles, just as the New Jersey Senate template is added to articles for every State Senator, even though the article is not *about* the New Jersey Senate. I hope that you will comply with this standard in the future and avoid removing sourced material that is standard to all such articles. If you have an argument to make, the best place to do so is at WT:NJ, where broad consensus might be reached that this information should be removed from all articles, as you suggest. Without that change in consensus, the status quo ante in which they are included should prevail at the article for Brian P. Stack. Alansohn (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Chaplin
THanks for massively shortening the bloated plot of The Great Dictator. A lot of the historical background was mildly interesting but unsourced and inessential (though I'm pretty sure most of it was true.)

Unfortunately what is now missing is Chaplin's being haunted by similarities between his background and Hitler's and their mutual love of Richard Wagner which is salient to the use of Wagner's music in the soundtrack. This seems to me a high priority to put back (properly sourced) and shouldn't take up more than about 5 sentences.--WickerGuy (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * No worries. It is very easy to find sourcing for that. Just a tad may have been in sources in the article. Chaplin's noting of background similarities and AH is in the 1-hour documentary The Tramp and the Dictator included as a feature of some DVD's of The Great Dictator.--WickerGuy (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Allison DuBois
Hi, Nightscream. I am looking for your input here. Thanks. --  Transity  ( talk &bull;  contribs ) 18:53, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry - I was talking about the bottom section of the talk page, but the name of the section was changed, and my link didn't work. Dreadstar answered, and while I think the policy is seriously flawed, I have no intention of rocking the boat if that is how it has played out in the past. --  Transity  ( talk &bull;  contribs ) 21:10, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Corey Clark
agreed, this page is not about soul Train. However does it really take anything away from Clarks Article by inserting that one fact about soul train and that Clark was apart of that amazing legacy? (Master maybe (talk) 22:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC))

Pending changes on Matt Stone
Hi Nightscream. As a result of a request at RFPP, I noticed that you recently applied pending changes protection to this article. You may not be aware that pending changes was deployed only during a brief trial period last year, which has since ended. It is not currently intended to be used on any articles. At your convenience, can you please remove pending changes from this article? The regular semiprotection by itself should be enough to handle any problems. Thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That was quick, thanks again. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:51, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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Steven Hirsch
Hi Nightscream, sorry my bad and I did nothing wrong. What did I do wrong and why would someone block me from editing? That doesn't make a sense to me. But anyway, thanks for warning me. Fbi205agent (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, I want make it clear with you. I was confused because it says Steven Hirsch's birthday is May 26, 1961. That's why it doesn't make a sense to me. —Fbi205agent (talk) 03:41, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I mean I was talking about his persondata on bottom of editing page when I edit it. —Fbi205agent (talk) 04:27, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's why I added his personal information from his persondata. I thought it's okay to add it, but I didn't know that you didn't pay attention on bottom of editing page. —Fbi205agent (talk) 04:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

High School of Art and Design
Nightscream: Are you the current editor who made some edits to the page and also posted 3 "banners" saying we needed citations for every section? We seem to keep getting new editors over the years who make different requests and I have a hard time catching up with all of them. Or even understanding why some of them are needed. The edits are not always consistent and seem to be subjective. (I am the former alumni president, btw, and was the person who originally upgraded the page back in June 2006. I am still involved with our Alumni Association and no one else from our organization has offered to take over the task of monitoring and editing the page. So it's still me. I'm now 69 years old, and while not a teckie, I'm pretty good at figuring most things out. But still need help so bear with me.)

For example, I've discovered over the years that many of our alumni think they are to be considered "notable" when they're not, and decide to add themselves onto the list. We posted an official statement that the Alumni Association chooses the names of the graduates to be listed as notable, to discourage others from adding themselves, yet they still do it and, regretfully, I often have to remove them. The statement I posted kept getting edited (changing) over the years every time another wiki editor had a different opinion on how it should be phrased. The last version was This is a list selected by the school's Alumni Association. But where did it go?

Also, who changed Notable Faculty to Faculty? Most of the teachers listed were extraordinary in their professional fields of work, in addition to being teachers. Most of them are deceased or retired! So how can they be list as Faculty (which means current)??? It was someone else's idea to add in our famous teachers years ago, which adds to the school's wonderful history, and I agreed with it and added to it. However, I do notice when someone other than me adds someone in, because they don't follow the style (example: "Irv Docktor, a fine artist and book illustrator" -- the "a" doesn't belong there).

We already have some citations next to some of our notable alumni names. Why do we need more? Many of them link to their own wikipedia page, which should be proof enough that they are notable. Besides, I don't seem many citations on La Guardia High School's page (our rival school), or a banner requesting them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Guardia_High_School. It's not fair to us to require more of us than is required of La Guardia.

Can you do me a favor and remove Cheryl Green (1981)? She added herself to the list -- and look how long a credit line she wrote herself! Just a couple of descriptive terms is all that should there. And, while she is a good designer, so are others. She needs to be more known or unique in her field. If we added on every graduate the list would be thousands long. It's supposed to be of notable alumni, not every alumnus that ever graduated or attended the school. (I'd rather you remove Cheryl than my doing it because my name will wind up as the person who removed her and I know her personally. I'm correct that she doesn't belong on the list -- yet -- but don't want to cause bad feelings. I already removed another alumna in the past -- twice! This is why the statement about the Alumni Association selecting those on the list needs to go back up.

Thank you Yvonnefitz (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I also watch that page, and the majority of Nightscream's changes are well within policy. I reverted one of the tags, because we don't actually have to have a citation for each name, so long as the info is cited on the page of the person. However, I wanted to make one comment on what you said above. You said, "We posted an official statement that the Alumni Association chooses the names of the graduates to be listed as notable" and that you left a note to that effect. Sorry, but that is not allowed. What goes into Wikipedia articles is not controlled by the subjects themselves (or, in your case organizations associated with the subjects). What should or should not be in articles is decided by consensus, as governed by our policies and guidelines.  In a case like this, anyone could be on that list if they have reliable sources that verify that 1) they went to this school and 2) they are important.  Usually that tends to limit such lists to people that are notable enough for their own Wikipedia article, but a solid reference would be sufficient.  If people disagree about what should be on the list, then we can discuss it on the article's talk page. So, that statement from the Alumni Association cannot be on the page, as it would directly violate Wikipedia's policies.  Also, let me clarify another point: just having their own WP article isn't technically enough.  That article must have a solid, reliable source verifying that the person attended this school.  If the page just says, "Went to high school at..." w/o a reference, then that's not sufficient to be on this list (and should probably be removed from the person's article as well).
 * I hope this clarifies how our policies work with reference to lists of this type (the actual guiideline is found at WP:NLIST). If you have further questions or concerns, feel free to raise them here. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * "I reverted one of the tags, because we don't actually have to have a citation for each name, so long as the info is cited on the page of the person." No, that's wrong. Articles are independent of one another, and each one that contains a given claim must have the citation. A reader should not have to go to a second article to find a source for information in a first one. Nightscream (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Part II Could we please have these conversations on my talk page? I can't keep going back and forth to respond to comments left on 2 different places. The line about the Alumni Association selecting the names of those who are notable was to deter our alumni at large from deciding to add themselves on. This line, in several variations -- due to the fact that several wiki editors rewrote it over the course of time, and according to their own take on how it should be worded -- has been up on the page since circa June 2006. How is it all of a sudden against wikipedia policies? One person says it's okay to have it if there is a published list of same; another says it's against wiki policies. Which is it? For several years NOT ONE wiki editor even suggested adding a citation to it. Thus, if there was a rule to be followed I would have followed it. Instead I find the rules always changing. I am going back to my talk page to ask questions about what was posted there, rather than having to recopy everything here to refer to it. I am a volunteer with now limited time, and have had a very stressful few years (long-term unemployment, cancer surgery, and now finally a busy full-time job while I have to empty out my apartment due to damages from a major leak from the apartment above last week). This whole thing takes up more time than I have and I need to clean up the mess in my apartment. I didn't plan or expect to spend hours here this evening.

I also want you to know I contributed $25 to the Wikimedia Foundation on 1/12/12. Meaning I put my money where my mouth is. Additionally, I'd like to add that I attended the School of Visual Arts (at night). One of my instructors was Milton Glaser, who later sponsored me to become a member of the Type Directors Club. Among other things he cited my sense of humor, in addition to my design talent. Not bragging, but those are the facts. I gotta go Yvonnefitz (talk) 03:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Copied from my talk page: "Qwyrxian" (whoever that is) left comments on your talk page. I can't answer on two different places. I am behind schedule in my apartment now. I have to go. Sorry. The school doesn't pay me to do this and I've spent too many years doing more for them than I did for me. I am now paying the price. Yvonnefitz (talk) 03:56, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Sunday 2/12/12: TY. Will reply in a week or two. I must put time in on my apartment emergency. Yvonnefitz (talk) 18:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Change to episode summary on Pawn Stars
RE: Pawn Stars episode "Bear-ly There" 

Hi Nightscream. Just a courtesy notification/explanation of a minor edit I made to your episode summary noted above. I removed the year 1870 as the manufacture year of the Volcanic Repeating Arms pistol based on the fact that Volcanic went out of business by 1866, or rather mutated into Henry/Winchester. Having just watched the episode and seen the pistol I suspect it was actually one of their 1856/1857 models. It's not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but I noticed it in passing and thought I'd correct it and have no year unless you have a good source otherwise for it really being 1870. Thanks and have a great Wiki kinda day! Sector001 (talk) 07:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * (Reply to Nightscreams post on my talk page) -- I just watched that particular episode about 2hrs ago and they absolutely called the gun the Volcanic and show mainstay Rick Harrison then went on to explain about the company being founded by the same gentlemen who founded Smith & Wesson firearms. It was also accompanied by one of those "pop up" boxes that Pawn Stars uses to further explain the history of the article being pawned. It was definitely a Volcanic, and indeed appeared practically identical to the 1855/57 model pictured on the Wikipedia article for Volcanic Repeating Firearms. Volcanic was definitely out of business, or rather as I explained earlier had undergone name changes, by 1870. Oliver Winchester basically took over the company and named their products after himself. Mr. Smith & Mr. Wesson went on to form their own famous self-named firearms company. Sector001 (talk) 08:56, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Jennifer Grey
Yes (Actually, I think I already have the justification for a block, since the most recent edit reverted you and, I think, pushed him over 3RR).

Have you also thought of taking this to SPI just so there's one on the record? Daniel Case (talk) 19:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, it turns out, he responded, and I responded to the response. Daniel Case (talk) 19:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, since we now have the beginnings of a dialogue, let's see what happens (I have reverted him myself back to your version in the meantime). BTW, you might want to remember that the SPI admin you called "clueless" is actually himself also a regular attendee at WM-NYC meetups and events. Daniel Case (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that as long as I don't do anything more than that one revert (or any further reverts) to the article itself, I'm OK since my real interest here is seeing Cerenok edit responsibly. If he uses the IP socks again, or just goes back to reverting, that hasn't happened. If OTOH he continues to discuss this, doesn't edit war and other editors get involved and there's a consensus to do it his way in this article, that's what's supposed to happen.


 * I am not above protecting the article, either. Daniel Case (talk) 03:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I see you protected the article. However, it seems Cerenok has stopped putting the bit about Reckless that caused the original edit war in there, and your latest dispute is simply about the wording of the surounding sentences (his version, yours, something that's a matter of editorial choice, not policy. Do you really think this is blockworthy? Yes, he reverted you, but I can live with wording that mentions the original films' years of release as well as I can live with wording that just makes them the catchall "1980s". Daniel Case (talk) 01:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I do agree it's customary for BLP articles to begin that way; however, it's not required. I admit this latest behavior is dimming my hopes that this guy might yet get a clue. I'll talk to him about this (what's more worrying, frankly, is the revert warring rather than what's being reverted). I would really like to make sure this isn't the sort of thing that ultimately ends up here. Daniel Case (talk) 04:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, upon deeper reading I see what the issue was ... more prose, really, than policy. I have put an indepth explanation on the talk page. Let's see how this works. BTW, you might want to revert his edits to Margot Kidder while you're at this ... the intro is not the place to recapitulate the entire filmography. Daniel Case (talk) 05:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Jennifer Grey (talk) No need for a response, just a note. I'm certain you're aware that you shouldn't be using the admin tools (to protect a page or to block someone) if you are an involved editor. User:Daniel Case has already suggested this to you as well, so no need to belabour the point, just a friendly reminder. - jc37 18:42, 18 February 2012 (UTC) Daniel Case (talk) 05:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Help on talk page for "Lewis Latimer"
I'm having a bit of an issue with another editor regarding edits to the timeline in the Incandescent light bulb article. I'd been given the go-ahead to list other inventors who had pioneered techniques for the manufacture of carbon filaments used in incandescent lighting in the late 19th century, because it had become clear after much research, that Lewis Latimer was cited purely for political reasons (he's African American.) Though his contribution to carbon filament production techniques is minor, he has been heralded as one of the greatest "black inventors" who ever lived. I had contended that if his minor contribution was so important as to be included on the timeline for the history of the incandescent light bulb, that other inventors and their "process{es) for the manufacture of carbon filaments" should also be included in the timeline.

Long story short: Another editor continues to push his agenda by deleting all of my additions to the timeline, yet retaining Mr. Latimer's notation. His argument for the revisions? That patent numbers are pointless, and so boring that no-one will bother to look them up. That having multiple entries for "essentially the same innovation" is "repetitive" (but we'll keep Latimer up there.) And finally, that there simply isn't enough room.

I know you're an admin, so could you check out the talk page and my edits, and tell me what can be done? Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe I'm not. Just thought I'd ask an expert. Thanks, Mr. Scream! 76.119.76.228 (talk) 21:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, Nightscrean -- the grounds of the dispute is at the talk page for "Incandescent Light Bulb," under the heading "Problem with my timeline edit?" Forgive the delay in response and for the misinfo. 76.119.76.228 (talk) 04:52, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

File:ImageComicsLogo.gif needs authorship information
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MBelgrano
I'm the former user MBelgrano you contacted recently, I renamed my account a year ago. Cambalachero (talk) 01:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The New 52, and not New 52
Hi. Please maintain the prefix The in the name of the relaunch, and do not simply "undo" my edits without understand them. Yes, even though there is a redirect from New 52 to The New 52, the name is the latter, in DC Comics Site, even though, in some URLs of that site, is only new-52. Also, there is a site http://thenew52.com/, so , the prefix is part of the name. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.154.159.9 (talk) 10:36, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: Check the history of the articles that you've changed, like Night of Owls... After your "undo"'s, I've placed again the article the in the wiki link. I've detected your changes from your message, and then went to "New 52" article without the redirect on (to "The New 52"), and click on "What links here" option in the Wikipedia toolbox. Only Batman and some User page have not been changed by me, so, there should be those 2 article links in the screen. Have a good day. :) 89.154.159.9 (talk) 10:54, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Great Dictator
Contrary to what you assert, the source I cited quite directly asserts that many political cartoonists commented on the resemblance of Hitler's and Chaplin's moustache. I even supplied the page number, 154!!!!!!! The exact quote is "During the 1930s political cartoonists, pundits, and comedians had a field day with their bizarre resemblance. Given that I supplied the page, you could have perused it a bit more without jumping to conclusions.--WickerGuy (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, Chaplin's fondness for Wagner is, I believe, mentioned in his autobiography. If I can find it, I will then restore it.--WickerGuy (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I have noticed that Google books blocks some pages in some areas of the world, and different pages in other areas. This has more than once caused miscommunication among WP editors.--WickerGuy (talk) 20:17, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Ben Templesmith Photo Controversy
Hi Nightscream,

Thanks for the invite. However, I think I'll sit this one out. All the points I would have raised have been addressed and I don't want to pile on the new editor. I'll keep an eye on it, though.

--GentlemanGhost (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

How's by you?
Hey, Night. Just saying hi. It's been a very rough, debilitating patch on Wikipedia for me, and I just wanted to leave a friendly note about all the good, detailed, high-standard work you've been doing lately. It's important at times like these to connect with collegial, collaborative colleagues and remind ourselves it's not always a battlefield to work on this important project. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 23:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Unconventional editing help needed
Since you know Grant Morrison, assorted other professionals, and possibly some of the controversy that has surrounded me, could you please help me out with something very important, but which would require an unconventional approach for Wikipedia?

I know that it is unconventional and somewhat alien to rule-stickling (or in my case compulsively anal-retentive) trivia indexers such as ourselves, and it took a long time for myself to truly wrap my head around despite professionals trying to explain, but I very sincerely ask you to please make as openminded thorough consideration of the concept as you are able to? Since you are an artist yourself it should probably be easier for you than it was for me.

It is like this. The thing is that icons are not just there for entertainment (or when abused, propaganda), they are there to make children, who later mature into adults, feel fundamentally safe from harm, to slay the nightmares, horrors, darkness, dangers, and instill a sense of hope and self-confidence in handling threats, both real and imagined.

If you undermine them too much, fear, terror, madness, despair, paranoia, war, and desperate amoral survival values start to sneak into the minds of people and spread around even to those not mentally self-aware enough to notice what is happening.

And in these times, with the combination of social upheaval, uncertainty for the future, global disasters, economic recession, undermined values, contemtuous schizophrenic media chaos, revolutionary internet demagogues, and gradually broken down mental defenses/sense of individuality due to constantly being connected to the internet hive mind, belief in positive heroic role models (never mind if they are fictional, especially if most of the real ones are corrupt), and their (hence the children themselves) ability to conquer the madness, horror, despair, and scary monsters in the darkness is absolutely essential for both themselves and the future responsible handling of the world to not break down into nothingness. Hence, why media people in general started to hate me. Given my handicaps and personal background, I eventually turned so overwhelmed by the sheer hopelessness of the sum total of everything I had encountered that my typically autistic anal-retentive nature instinctively started to index the horrors... And as I have an addiction, did so online, which, although I am far from the only one, and unlike most of the others hate the evil concepts, and do not perceive them as something to worship due to sheer destructive power, I was nevertheless the most recogniseable, as I never lied about who I was.

Meaning, I am very worried that I have unintentionally helped to do harm to innocent children, along with people who are scared and need hope, and would now like to help undo the damage. However, I do not have your social communication skills or practical bureaucratic ability, and would like to please ask for your help in considering what we wikipedians can do to in this particular matter for once try to be openminded and consider the harm. Specifically how to properly "defang" the pages detailing absolutely nightmarish concepts as completely overwhelming for the forces of light, health, and sanity, as then any readers the world over trying to be inspired, flee from the monsters, and gain hope, will in lack of other options, start to identify with the by far stronger party... Which, in the case of demons and eldritch abominations, means deeply unhealthy mental states, madness, lack of connection to life, health, and experience, gradual decay and inescapable hopeless situations, and possibly turning into massive problems for society through extremist communities. I very sincerely, and after long consideration, please ask you to not simply disregard this or make a casual comment. This is genuinely socially relevant, and your fellow professional artists are widespread vainly struggling against it. Hence, could you please ask around your contacts, and think through what we in Wikipedia, as members of the global community, can do to be socially responsible in handling this matter? It is a very crucial and dangerous juncture in the world, in which anything can spread and quickly infect lots of people, which makes it potentially disastrous to help spread fear or madness, and now that my own compulsions are turning more manageable, I would like to help in what small ways that I can. Thank you. David A (talk) 12:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Rick Harrison
While I appreciate a good editor, and I see you are quite distinguished, I would like to think that perhaps there could have been a better way of handling edits for this article. As I take no issue with the comments you left me on my My talk page, however I was unclear of what exactly you were refering to that needed references. You deleted the presidents sentence, therefore I readded it with a reference; the assumption being that the deleted sentence was the one needing the reference. However, you replied that the marriage and children sentence needed references. Very well, reference found. The issue I think would have been resolved better if it were simply stated that marriage, children, and presidents needed instead of the verbose explanation of Wikipedia editing standards. I was not malicious, slanderous, or vandalizing and therefore feel that I shouldn't have been told to "don't reverse my edits." If I committed any of those three aforementioned things then it would certainly warrant being dissuaded to contribute to Wikipedia in the very least. I don't disagree with Wikipedia's standards and recognize that you are trying to maintain them, however I hope you recognize that there are people out there like me that are willing to support them, and there are more simple approaches to attain that. Stundra (talk) 02:11, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

About my Ban period
Hello Nightscream,

F.Y.I. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thisthat2011#About_my_Ban_period

Thanks. इति इतिUAनॆति नॆति Humour Thisthat2011 11:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
Hi, please can you be more constructive when editing articles. Rather than just reverting, you could have added some references. If you did not want to do that, you could have at least been a bit nicer in the comment afterwards. Regards, Mythical Curse (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC).

Roswell
Dear Nightscream, Thanks for the comment. I'd like to put more up to date information on Wiki but it does seem to have a policy of blocking certain topics. In particular there is very good info on what happened at Roswell. Are there any groups capable of looking at this? Thanks Chris User talk:62.255.204.64 13:23, March 7, 2012

Neutral notice
This is a neutral notice to members of WikiProject Comics that two discussions of interest are occurring at Talk:Comic Book Resources and Talk:Comics Bulletin.--Tenebrae (talk) 15:33, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Ben Templesmith
How is everything going with the Ben Templesmith article. If not will you please give me a brief summary of what's going on so I don't have to maybe read all of the discussions. Jhenderson 7 7 7  16:29, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * That's great. Sorry about not participating but I knew all you responsible editors could figure it out on it's own. Jhenderson  7 7 7  20:15, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Lazenby
'Arf a Mo, Joe! The end of the Goulburn Post article reads- ''So Lazenby... George Lazenby... was born in Goulburn and lived here until he was around 14 or 15. He then moved with his family to Queanbeyan where he was a car salesman, and then a national service man (serving alongside Goulburn man Frederick Grady), before moving to England'' As the RAN or RAAF were regulars, a 'national serviceman' or 'nasho' means 'Army'. I'm glad someone has cut the stuff about him being a Sgt in the 'Special Forces'. I thought the blog site quoted some interview with him as it sounded like Lazenby speaking, but if you say it's a bad source and I can't find any collaboration I'll drop it. I look forward to his autobio coming out but hope it won't be pulped like the first version of The Battle for Bond or not published like Sean Connery's autobio that he had to give the advances back for.Foofbun (talk) 05:54, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Refs
I add refs to nearly every sentence I write as if I do not someone comes along and adds. Than when I come back to fix it I might not remember which ref supported the statement in question. If you wish them to become none visible for cosmetic reasons please use instead. Cheers Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 06:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You removed this ref here -- Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 07:22, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That is why I propose the compromise of . The difficulty is text is moved around in articles and yes people will tag any sentence without a reference. -- Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 07:30, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes but not everyone moves the ref with the content in question. I just edit medical articles so you will just see me there. Cheers -- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

This is a essay Citation overkill. It is the opinion of a few Wikipedians. Please note "Consider these views with discretion. Essays are not Wikipedia policies." Please get consensus at WT:MED before you make further changes. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:27, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I see you made a similar change at The Magic of Reality: How We Know What's Really True citing WP:OVERCITE & WP:PAIC, and I agree with Doc James that these are poor guidelines as additional citations prevent people adding citation needed tags and losing track of which reference supports which statement. In an encyclopedia where most articles are sorely lacking in references it is not good to go around removing citations unless it truely is OVERKILL on OVERKILL. I would have undone these changes, but seeing you're an admin and could beat up or something, I have defered from doing this. OVERKILL is sometimes necessary as you really don't want the corpse getting up and testifying against you. Sky Machine   ( ++ ) 08:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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Regarding reliable sources
Hello,

Need comments on this discussion on how reliable are the sources mentioned. The sources mentioned per discussion are Christian Today (which describes itself as "trans-denominational Christian newspaper"; part of christiantoday.com; more info [reference]) and The Milli Gazette (which describes itself as "Indian Muslims' Leading English Newspaper"; more info [here]).

I asked another editor Sitush but no clarity on the sources is forthcoming. इति इतिUAनेति नेति Humour Thisthat2011 15:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello, any idea which direction the discussion of reliable sources is going [| here]? इति इतिUAनेति नेति Humour Thisthat2011 19:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Nick Cardy
Hi, I recently started the bibliography section on artist's WP page, and about your comments on the edit ("His name is NICK Cardy, not "Cardy", it's GRAND Comics Database, not "Great"...") I wonder: it is necessary to make the explanation in so unpolite mode? Well, I DO know that his name is Nick. I think that appart from editing changes and correcting mistakes, you should appreciate the contributions other users do, instead of remarking things such as "his name is Nick..." which sounds unnecessarily rude. To finish: as far as I know, nobody took the trouble to list his works before... Fma12 (talk) 19:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message, apollogies accepted. Fma12 (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Blocked and confused
It seems I've been blocked by you for editing. I think the notice and information provided for this situation is somewhat confusing and hard to navigate. I think I'm supposed to put this:. somewhere, but can't seem to find it. I've seen a list of edits I didn't make, but perhaps those are just examples of what I might see if I'd gone to the right link? Almost all of the edits I've made have been to discographies, and I think they were benign, just adding links. If I'm being blocked for some other reason, I think you've got the wrong guy, somehow. Is there a way to get clarity on this? Also, can wikipedia devise a cleaner way of checking who's being blocked by whom and for what? Thank you! Mitchburndt (talk) 16:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Mitch, you've never been blocked. Were you perhaps looking at Wikipedia while not logged on? In such a case, you might have seen a block notice for the IP address you were using at that moment. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:27, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This appears to be correct. The IP Mitch uses had an anon block placed on it by Nightscream. Mitch, since you are able to edit this page, you are not affected by the block. It is only if you try to edit anonymously that you would have a problem. TN X Man  16:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

It now looks as though I'm being blocked for submitting a page (which then I considered valid, as it had press releases published online as well as an online presence) but which evidently did not meet Wikipedia criteria, in 2008. I have since submitted no pages. I'm not sure why I was blocked in 2012 for something which happened four years ago. Am I misreading the situation? It looks as though the block may have been lifted, which seems appropriate. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchburndt (talk • contribs) 19:18, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Neutral notice
As an admin, and as an editor involved in one of the RMs cited, you may wish to comment at this Wikipedia assistance discussion. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Jersey City, New Jersey
Hi, thank you for your message. However, you may be unaware of a standard in New Jersey municipality articles which has developed to mention single ethnic nationalities (note nationalities, not races) comprising at least 10% of a municipality's population as per the 2010 Census. This has nothing to do with WP:UNDUE or WP:NPOV because it applies across the board to any ethnic nationality which can be cited appropriately. It is also insulting to generalize a single nationality into and amongst a heterogeneous racial class. Therein the mention, which I will replace, but obviously please feel free to reply. Thanks again. 96.242.217.91 (talk) 05:26, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I just noticed now that you're an admin, but hopefully you will understand my point that this is an especially relevant detail that should not be omitted in its own right, but especially further so in the context of the India Square diagram immediately above it.) Thanks again. 96.242.217.91 (talk) 05:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Wizard Entertainment
Hi. Are you sure the url to the webpage you cited as a source for the material you added to the Wizard Entertainment article is correct? Whenever I try to click on it or cut and paste the url, it results in a server error. Nightscream (talk) 23:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It could be dead. In my effort to de-orphan Darren Sanchez, I just copied the ref from that page without verifing it. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Hi. Just felt like randomly leaving someone a kitten message. Not sure why.

Saruman IV (talk) 03:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC) 

File:Tarantino.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Tarantino.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Cloudbound (talk) 22:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Avengers vs. X-Men
You did really good job at Fear Itself (comics) and was wondering if you wouldn't mind help improving/monitoring Avengers vs. X-Men. Thanks.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem, and thanks for the copy editing.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you think you could protect this page, I'm having some problems with IP editors. Thank you.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Touré
Hi it's Toure. I see that despite our lengthy discussions about the issue someone has again added my last name to my page even though it's not part of who I am as a public figure. I want to respect Wiki's direction and not edit my own page. Can you please edit that off and help me see to it that that name does not get back on the page? I had a lengthy discussion with Jimmy Wales about all this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toure (talk • contribs) 14:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Bielle (talk) 18:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

And this is confusing, but I don't know what to do with it. Bielle (talk) 20:09, 1 April 2012 (UTC) I've found the source of my confusion: there is a User talk page and an article talk page. Sorry about that. Bielle (talk) 21:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Miles Morales Lead section
I won't question the need to reference the cartoon, but could you explain what was wrong with this lede?


 * Miles Morales is a fictional character, a Marvel Comics superhero created by writer Brian Michael Bendis and artist Sara Pichelli. A teenager of African American and Latino descent, Miles is the second Spider-Man in the Ultimate Marvel continuity following the death of Peter Parker. After the original Spider-Man's death, Miles became the subject of the new Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man.

It appears to be using the standard Spider-Man article as a template so I was wondering why it couldn't be used for Miles' article.--71.233.130.195 (talk) 17:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for clarifying it for me.--71.233.130.195 (talk) 17:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Pauly D Project
Hi Nightscream!

First off I'd like to just say what a damn good job you have done to the Snooki and JWoww vs. The World article. I come to you, because of this wonderful job you have done with the article. I had created the The Pauly D Project article - which at the moment, looks absolutely horrible, to the point that I cringe.

If possible, are you able to assist in lifting the article's standards - perhaps up to the Snooki and JWoww vs. The World standards? Please? Thank you, -- MST  ☆  R   (Chat Me!) 11:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Faith Hilling
I edited to reflect what actually happened in the episode. 132.206.186.174 10:00, April 3, 2012‎

Cory Murphy
Hey. Would you object if I moved the page history of the Cory Murphy redirect to Cory Murphy (The Real World), and placed Cory Murphy (ice hockey) as the primary topic? Prolog (talk) 16:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Cash for Gold (South Park)
You're on the verge of violating 3RR, please self revert. You are also profoundly pushing a WP:POINT: first, you reverted whoever added this instead of doing a simple Google search like I did; then you keep attributing this almost as a far fetched POV of a reviewer. Stan's rant is a take on Hicks, and we're stating that with a secondary source (which, obviously, states the reviewer's name). Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:10, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Spider-Man response
I wasn't the one who added Maurice LaMarche as the voice of Doctor Doom in Ultimate Spider-Man, but I did change his alias since this show takes place in the Ultimate Marvel universe. Rtkat3 (talk) 9:23, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Yahoo! article
Thank you for your recent contribution to the Yahoo! article. Ottawahitech (talk) 16:07, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Venom
I didn't add anything I just corrected a misspelling. The actor was already there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.125.132 (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Spider-Man (TV series)
I just want to say I appreciate your work on the article. I am one of the creators of it first starting off and it is a relief that it still looking good thanks to you and other editors. Jhenderson 7 7 7  18:06, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Your question
Hi N. I hope you are well. I based my edit summary on this recent discussion Template talk:Infobox person. The tone of it seemed a consensus to me - with the proviso that consensus seems to be based on 6 or less more or less agreeing anymore - and please understand that I am being ironic not pedantic :-) As to the specific edit just putting in the words "1 son" seemed less than useful to me but if you wanted to restore them I certainly would not argue about it. Cheers and have a good week on wiki and off. MarnetteD | Talk 01:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Who knows. I am always afeerd of the USA Today effect wherein "if it is written it must be important" - combine that with the "if it is in the infobox why should I read the rest of the article" attitude. In the end if you want that meaningless as written factoid in the infobox please feel free to restore it. MarnetteD | Talk 05:41, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I have a strong position on it; more of a skeptical one. I was just asking. I prefer to defer to others in matters where I feel less than certain. Thanks. :-) Nightscream (talk) 06:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Many apologies it is late here and, rats, it is the start of a long week. As I read my post it seems too curt by half - unless Cartman is saying it and then it is too mild :-). Thanks for your vigilance and always feel free to question my biases in the future. MarnetteD | Talk 06:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Union City, NJ
Hi. You made a change to this very page yesterday, but did not provide a clear explanation as to why you made the change back to its original form. My edit or edits were simple and consistent with Wikipedia's format. Categories named after their municipalities, for instance, Category:Union City, New Jersey is one of the several dozen on here and I have never encountered an issue about it. Adding this symbol "|" within the category brackets is standard, meaning that this is the primary category. The article Union City, New Jersey is the main article in its own category. It should not be in the alphabetical category list (under "U"). It is similar to adding *, or ', etc. See Category:Asbury Park, New Jersey, Category:Newark, New Jersey, Category:Hoboken, New Jersey, and I could list more, but you get the idea. In addition, the NJ nav. boxes are coming down from several municipality pages, too. I am just following another editor who has been doing it. Tinton5 (talk) 00:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Your edit on the New 52
Firstly, you do a bang up job as a custodian of this page, and without you, I reckon it would be a pretty shoddy page. In short, I am a fan. Buuuut, I thought the notes in your edit yesterday, when you reverted someones good faith edit were a bit harsh! Don't bite the newbies! Anyway, just an observation, but we should be more welcoming. Keep up the good work!  Benny Digital  Speak Your Brains 10:36, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * A fair argument, lad. And after I sent this, I did see that you'd tried to help him out before. I still think that it was done in good faith, and you could have been a little gentler in your criticism, but then if everyone were a soft touch like me, this place would fall apart. Quite happy to agree to, well, barely even disagree, we both agree it was a crap edit!  Benny Digital  Speak Your Brains 15:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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Helpful hint
I saw your recent edit and I thought I'd let you know about a much simpler link than writing out the long explanation you did in the edit summary: WP:&. It will save you some time. Cheers! Spidey 104  14:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Your additional explanation is useful, but I thought the link would help reduce the length slightly. Spidey  104  20:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Jonathan Frid
Edit war brewing. People are changing the death date to April 13 without giving any citation whatsoever. Apparently a fan site gave that date, but the local newspaper, which is footnoted, says April 14.

Also, though I can't use this information to cite, but I'm writing his obit, and a representative for the family told both me and Fangoria editor Chris Alexander that Frid died very early on the morning of April 14. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:52, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for being understanding and for taking the time to investigate the facts. I know this is a volunteer position, but you have behaved like a pro. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 13:41, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.hamiltonnews.com/news/remembering-jonathan-frid/

I can't believe someone switched this over for no reason. This is the proper article that belongs on this site page.

Why do people have to behave like kids. Why? I think that someone should have respect for the individual we are talking of. Hired Ghoul (talk) 19:40, April 24, 2012 (edit) (undo)


 * Thanks for protecting the page today, Night. Without the IP fans, the page should stabilize. Good call! --Tenebrae (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

The Real World: Miami
With respect, three of the four links provided photographic evidence of my assertion. I don't understand all of the rules here. But I will strive to do better next time, if and when there is a next time anyway.50.81.155.59 (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback
Thanks for your comments. The Determinator p  t  c  12:27, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Da Vinci Code
Good tips. Sorry for my sloppy editing. I was admittedly tired and secretly hoping a smarter official at Wiki would make it look better. Agree with most everything you said. Only dispute: Umberto Eco's comment is not a criticism, it's an extemporaneous thought (Dan Brown was a character in his book?) It's a random joke, not criticism. Also, I couldn't find the actual quote used in the source cited.Jasonnewyork (talk) 16:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC) Jasonnewyork (talk) 16:13, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

You know what, you changed the original reference I had an issue with and made it better. Ignore that previous comment.Jasonnewyork (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I still think it's too light on certified criticism and may do a more lengthy review of the top reviewers (Wash Post, et al) and post both good and bad criticisms from the official critics.Jasonnewyork (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

The Real Housewives of New Jersey
Thank-you for blocking 174.106.68.176. We have been working to make The Real Housewives of New Jersey a better article and the disruption and mess was very sad to see. I also see where they were busy destroying other articles as well, again THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.29.229 (talk) 17:22, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually the quotes are kind-of a big deal. They are relevant and used for the beginning of each show/character/season. I know that people were doing messy drive-bys on them but is it possible to put the quotes back? I did not add them but they were very useful for research. Again-ty for blocking the latest vandal.68.37.29.229 (talk) 17:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

One more thing-well, Two. I opened-up a new topic on The Real Housewives of New Jersey Talk page. And, there is some confusion about capitalization of the word, "housewives". Aside-from the regular disputes about who is and is not a (with a capital "H"-"Housewife"), the standard practice has been to use the "H"-when referring-to "Housewife/Housewives", IF it is in direct reference to their role on the show as an "official" "Housewife". OR if it directly refers-back to the title of the show. 68.37.29.229 (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC) Also, I see that you have done some work on The Real World. Rachel Campos is scheduled to appear on EWTN today. Should be interesting.68.37.29.229 (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

I read the protocol that you linked and I believe that "Housewives" is used as a proper-noun in this instance. Many of these women do not deserve the title of "housewife"-lol, and they are only considered a "Housewife", because of their status on the show.I also opened it up for discussion on The Real Housewives of New Jersey talk page.-Thanks!68.37.29.229 (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Avengers
Hi, Night. It looks like an edit-war may be brewing over the UK title of The Avengers (2012 film). Most editors are debating it properly, but one's getting an itchy trigger finger before a consensus is reached. Just a neutral head's up.

BTW, your timely intervention at Jonathan Frid led to a happy ending. A compromise solution was reached, and one of the other editors even left me a thank you for helping to broker it. Amazing what can happen when editors get a cool-down period. Regards as always, --Tenebrae (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

3RR/disruption problem
Are you still around? I noticed that you posted a message at WP:ANI a few minutes ago. We have a problem with a non-communicating, newly registered user at here. I reported them to WP:3RRNB several hours ago, then left the user to it for a few hours. Getting tired of their disruption, I then determined their removals of cited content to be vandalism, having left numerous notes on their talk page and declining an AfC submission as being a POV fork. They almost immediately reverted me. This is a quite contentious article and one that gets around 10k views per month (last 90 days). Usually, I leave it to 3RRNB but on this occasion there is a growing backlog there & it now seems clear to me that the contributor has no intention of engaging. I've no idea if you are of the blocking persuasion etc, but I would appreciate some sort of input. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 23:30, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Forget that. While typing, someone has done the job. My apologies for the waste of your time. - Sitush (talk) 23:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Death in Lead of 9/11 victim articles
I agree that victims with Wikipedia pages who are solely notable for dying on 9/11 should have this mentioned in the lead. However, those with prior notability should be recognized for the accomplishments that made them notable, not the circumstances of their deaths. I believe noting their deaths alongside their life's work is a case of undue weight given. User:InedibleHulk. 15:45, May 3, 2012

Jerry Lee Lewis is notable for his art and his charity, because he put a lot of time, energy and ideas into both. They are accomplishments which spanned years and defined his public image. Garnet Bailey just happened to be on a plane one day, which happened to fly into a building. He had nothing to do with creating the incident, and played no significant part in it (no more than any other non-notable victim). He merely died. If he wasn't onboard that day, would anything else have likely been different? I will forfeit the argument to you and not revert your reversions, only because I don't care strongly enough, not because you are right. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Berry Berenson
You are simply upset that someone doesn't like pictures that contribute nothing to the article, not only create a visually unappealing layout, but also comes off as overly maudlin. You don't own the page. Removing a poorly framed snapshot of block of stone is not disruptive or vandalism, since the content of the article remains the same, and nothing of illustrative purpose was ever removed. Personally, I think you're just upset that someone is playing in what you perceive to be your sandbox. I suggest you take a deep breath, calm down, and go (re)read Assume_good_faith. 24.4.200.157 (talk) 22:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

The word cabrón
Re your conversation at User talk:PoppingCorns. According to Wiktionary, cabrón does not have a derogatory meaning in Mexico, although it apparently does just about everywhere else. Anyone using it in the US is quite likely to be using it with the Mexican meaning.  Spinning Spark  17:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course, I wouldn't trust uncited material in Wiktionary any more than I'd trust it on Wikipedia...  Spinning Spark  18:58, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Need comments for a conversation
Hello,

Any comments on this converstaion please? इति इतिUAनेति नेति Humour Thisthat2011 16:20, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikistalker
Hi, Night. I've asked J Greb for help, but I guess he's off-Wiki. User:Stuart.Jamieson, who behaved obsessively months ago at Talk:Demi Moore by prying into my personal life, and who was following me around Wikipedia until I begged him to stop, has appeared at Talk:X-Men: First Class and is making threats against my privacy once again. I hope you're around, and I ask you to please tell him to stop doing so &mdash; that my private life is my private life and he was no right to "out" me. Please, please take a look at his posts and his threat at Talk:X-Men: First Class. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:31, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Not at all. You're a good editor and I respect you. But WP:OUTING is a serious thing, and I don't think it's right for him to threaten me with that. I know you don't mean to suggest that you think it's OK for someone to threaten another editor that way.


 * You and I can speak off-Wiki if you'd like. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 04:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, we can agree to disagree. Whatever his rationale, I don't feel any editor has the right to threaten any other. No worries. --Tenebrae (talk) 04:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Dayana Mendoza
That sentence was unsourced, but it wasn't unsourceable. I added it because it seemed fitting, as it's one fact that makes her stand out from all other Apprentice contestants before her. I'm not sure of which episode it was highlighted in, but it was probably the one prior to the episode in which she was fired. The tidbit serves only to enhance Mendoza's notability. —烏Γ (kaw), 00:08, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't feel like going back through to find where exactly it was said, but I'd say the most likely place is the one right before she got fired. And I'm of the position that every possible wording or phrase is POV toward something. So I'd suggest that you or someone else add it back in. —烏Γ (kaw), 03:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said, check that episode. —烏Γ (kaw), 04:33, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Learning the Ropes
How does that happen? I don't know how to navigate this wikipedia world very well. Could definitely use a guide.Jasonnewyork (talk) 06:03, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Thank you so much for that.  Is there a way to "friend" a fellow wiki editor?  Also, I'm in DC now, but I get to NY quite often.  I'm sure there's a wiki meeting here too.  Again, thanks!Jasonnewyork (talk) 14:03, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you know how to find and join wiki groups? I'd be interested in joining one on philosophy.Jasonnewyork (talk) 17:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow! There are so many!  Thanks!  It's exciting!Jasonnewyork (talk) 19:10, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

The Avengers (2012 film)
I reverted one of your edits to The Avengers (2012 film), the Thanos issue has been discussed much on the article's talk page. I do recognize your edit as a good faith effort and as a valued member of our community your input on the topic would be appreciated. Thank you.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon and Miles Morales
Don't know if you're watching the show but it really has nothing in common with the Ultimate comics and the connection is really in name only. It's basically just Spider-Man teaming up with other heroes and there's nothing based off anything Bendis wrote. It doesn't even take place in the Ultimate Universe as the various characters are based on their 616 counterparts (except for Nick Fury who is the Samuel L Jackson version). Knowing that, do you think the bit about Miles Morales not being in the cartoon is really relevant?--CyberGhostface (talk) 18:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the Miles Morales article.--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Olivia Munn Edit
The website is now up: http://magicmikemovie.warnerbros.com/ The movie is to be released in June. Please revert back to information addition. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.76.67.233 (talk) 05:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Mjolnir (comics)
How does this wording sound to you?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure, but Multiverse (Marvel Comics) lists it as Earth-928.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 17:09, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jeremy McKinnon


The article Jeremy McKinnon has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. joe deckertalk to me 03:27, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Brian K. Vaughan
If I know the person in question, how do I justify a change to his article (in this case indicating that he has two children, a son and a daughter, not two daughters) if I don't have a written, linkable source? (I don't think his wife would appreciate my linking to her private Facebook albums.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.30.241 (talk) 11:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

In response to your fair question on the New 52...
Because I was doing a hurried edit at work! Thank you kindly, as ever, for cleaning up after me! As ever, good work sir.  Benny Digital  Speak Your Brains 14:32, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Manito
I couldn't find any examples of Jesús Alejandro Pérez going by the name Manito. Is it verifiable on the Internet?  ☮ Soap  ☮  01:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

File:2.7.07JoeQuesada2.jpg listed for deletion
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Victoria Silvstedt
My edit summary had some typos. I undid your edit because there was some edit wars regarding the financial information in the past. I encourage you to bring up your changes at the talk page. Thanks. Fasttimes68 (talk) 01:35, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Please just comment on here first and let others chime in before making your edits. I'm ok with your edit per se, but not without letting others have their say first. Fasttimes68 (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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The Real World: St. Thomas
Hello. The Real World: St. Thomas article has been recently plagued by sloppy editing from IP users, including section blanking. I would recommending semi-protecting the article for at least the next four months (the season premieres on June 27, 2012). Thank you. DPH1110 (talk) 18:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)DPH1110

Spider-Man (Miles Morales) good article nom
I recently nominated this for GA and another user gave it it some criteria for it to pass at Talk:Spider-Man_(Miles_Morales)/GA1. I've been trying to go over them but any help would be appreciated. Thanks.--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's a big help.--CyberGhostface (talk) 01:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's now a good article. Thanks again.--CyberGhostface (talk) 17:46, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Backlog at the 3RR board
Hiya, Night. Another editor has reported a particularly bad edit-warrior, now on his 7th revert, at the 3RR board, where there seems to be a backlog &mdash; I'm noticing others there with well over 4 reverts. This isn't one that I reported, though I did add a concurrence. If you're around and have time to take a look, I hate to ask, but wow, this guy being reported has been nothing but disruptive. It's a shame. Anyway .... how have you been otherwise? I saw the new Spider-Man movie at a screening and Prometheus in a theater. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Will do. I'd actually tried to do just that, and the URL looks correct to me, but you're right, it doesn't go to the proper discussion. Oy! With regards, bro.... --Tenebrae (talk) 02:35, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing on Jeff Dunham
I have never been "blocked for disruptive editing." If you're going to post on my user page, you will assume good faith and remain civil. Thank you. - SmashTheState (talk) 03:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The block that was imposed on your in February 2009 would indicate otherwise. As for good faith and civility, you have not established that I violated either of those policies. You made a clearly inappropriate edit here, and the warning I left you above because of it was perfectly civil. Please do not attempt to misdirect attention from the inappropriateness of that edit by attacking those who leave such warnings. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 04:10, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * That block - which as you will note was removed by another administrator after review - was applied by an administrator whose understanding of the rules of Wikipedia and basic courtesy were as flawed as your own. Your tone is rude, arrogant, and threatening.  I do not care to have any further contact with you.  Thank you. - SmashTheState (talk) 04:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You have not established that my understanding of Wikipedia's rules is "flawed", much less that there is anything inappropriate about my "tone". My messages to you have been civil and appropriate, whereas the edit in question--which you appear to be avoiding talking about--was not. Avoid violating the site's policies with edits like that, and you won't have to worry about having further contact with me or other administrators. Continue making such edits, and dismissing the perfectly appropriate warnings that are the result of them, and you'll find that you have more contact with such administrators than you'll care for. Take care. Nightscream (talk) 16:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Jim Shooter
Thank you for the edit on the Jim Shooter page with regard to the treatment of homosexuality in comics. I felt it was an important point to make concerning how amazing comics have been of late in dealing with pressure from religious groups, but also so people are aware of how far the medium has evolved. Again, thank you for the clarifications and formatting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian-John (talk • contribs) 15:55, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Jason Mewes
Next time, before you dismiss an edit, please watch the source material FIRST. Go to the "Jay and Silent Bob" entry here to see the info on SUPER GROOVY CARTOON MOVIE. And if you read the credits for SPOILERS, you will see this: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2364/spoilersjasonmewescredi.jpg I wouldn't be adding this information if it wasn't (a) salient or (b) confirmed. njr75003 (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Superman Curse
"WhatGuy" is not my account. And why was the edit removed that simply stated the actor's age at his death? The part that said "...he died in 1999 ." That has nothing to do with my opinion, or questionable facts. TRC 01:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)TRC1968 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TRC1968 (talk • contribs) TRC 12:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

His "exact age of death" isn't cited, but his exact date of birth and exact date of death *are* cited. Anybody with a basic understanding of how birthdays work will be able to determine his age with that information. I understand why you removed my initial posts; I was being a smart-alec, and agree that they should have been removed. However, at this point it's become obvious to me that you aren't interested in allowing intelligent, reasonable posts - you are only interested in exercising your power, either just to satisfy your ego, or as a personal thing against me. I don't know which it is, and I don't care. So congratulations, you win: might makes right, and you're carrying the big stick. Enjoy your dominion. P.S. I've added the 4 tildes at the beginning of the post, and at the end - I'm sorry if I'm screwing it up, I'm not trying to lurk. - TRC1968 TRC 12:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TRC1968 (talk • contribs)

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Vanessa Paradis
Hey, Night. Hope you've been well A user you've admonished, Hearfourmewesique, who was at least once investigated for sockpuppetry with inconclusive results, has been adding the same unconfirmed personal claims about Vanessa Paradis in violation of WP:BLP. When I noted politely on his talk page he was approaching 3RR, a fairly new user account (since April), Libby995, made the same edit &mdash; with a misleading edit summary, to boot. He's just erased the message I left on his talk page about BLP. Any suggestions / advice? I'd hate to get in a 3RR myself because of a sock. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the good advice. Enjoy your well-deserved time off! I think Darkwarriorblake is going on vacation for about a week shortly.


 * Oh, you'll get a kick out of this: I'm going to the Amazing Spider-Man NY screening Thursday as a guest of Larry Lieber. What a small, crazy world! --Tenebrae (talk) 02:48, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your taking a look, though I feel a bit guilty about it if you're on vacation. Hearfourmewesique had previously reinserted the early-life paragraph that ends with the line about her uncle, and that's what Libby995 also reinserted. The Kravitz stuff was indeed cited &mdash; it was the claims on either side of it that weren't.


 * Anyway, enjoy your breather. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 03:20, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, I never erase messages on my talk page. This is another lie that will be added to the report if Tenebrae keeps getting on my case for no reason. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 14:20, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Did Tenebrae state that you had in fact done this, or that you were, in fact, Libby? My understanding was that he suspected you and Libby were one and the same, and wanted advice on how to proceed. One cannot be accused of "lying" for merely expressing a suspicion, even if that suspicion turns out to be wrong. If I may express my own observations here:

Tenebrae, I see no clear evidence pointing to the notion that Hearfourmewesique and Libby are one and the same, and if you'll pardon the criticism, I think you should've exercised a bit more judgment in claiming that they made the "same" edits (they weren't), or in removing the Personal life info that you did, as a portion of it was indeed sourced. I'm not saying you should second guess yourself if you ever observe something that appears to be genuine sockpuppetry, but this wasn't it.

Hearfourmewesique, you need similarly to exercise better judgment in your language, something you've had problems with in the past. In addition to referring to an incorrect suspicion as a "lie" (similar to when your earlier misuse of the words "opinion" and "bully"), you need to stop violating WP:CIV by calling other editors "lazy" as you did to Tenebrae here. This is the second time you have recently done this this. After you did so with me here, and subsequently offered an apology for it that I accepted, I thought we had moved on. You need to stop. Editors are not required to source info that other editors want to include in an article. They may do so (and I myself do so), but it's not their job; it's the job of the editor who favors the material's inclusion. I respect the work you've done yourself on this front, but you can't obligate other editors to find sources for your material. That's not "laziness", that's adherence to WP:V and the nature of an editor's limited time. It's one thing to opine that anonymous IPs who show no interest in the site's policies or in doing respectable work are lazy. It's another to address specific editors as such, especially when they have edit histories like this and this. Leveling this accusation isn't just uncivil, it shows a marked inability to form coherent, informed conclusions. If you don't have time to source a bit of info, and you really don't want to remove it, then as a compromise, move it to the talk page until it can be sourced, as was suggested to me on Jimmy Wales' talk page once. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:12, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Well-put, and I take full responsibility for not seeing the differences between what I thought were the similar Libby and the Hearfourmewesique edits. Night, you always take your admin duties seriously, taking the time and making the effort to explain things clearly, calmly and in full. I find this also of our WPC colleague J Greb, and I'm proud to work with you both, as we have for years now. And lest anyone get the wrong impression, this includes times when we've disagreed or when I've said or done something that I could have said or done better &mdash; and it has always been reasonable and mutually respectful.


 * Given all the time and aggro precipitated by my posting here, the least I could do is offer my heartfelt thanks for all the extra work that admins, and Nightscream in particular, voluntarily take on. With regards as always, Tenebrae (talk) 17:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yet no thanks to me for actually rebuilding this article from being a half-assed translation of the French article. How am I supposed to stay nice??? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 19:00, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

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The Real World: St. Thomas
I read the message you left me regarding my edits on The Real World: St. Thomas page. I will explain each thing:

Yes, I did forget to cite the things I added to the cast bios, most of the those I got from MTV'S official website. I was going to add it in, but just simply forgot, that's an error on my behalf and I was going to put them in once I remembered to. I'm still getting used to adding massive edits to Wiki, before this I rarely ever edited unless I saw obvious spelling errors somewhere, then I would log in just to fix it, and that was the only time I would ever log into Wiki. Now that's its summer and I don't have much of a social life, I've been adding to Wiki, and I am still getting used to learning how to add references and citations.

About Laura's parents, sorry if I worded it wrong, or weirdly, but what I meant when I wrote "Laura was adopted shortly after birth due to her biological parent's inability to raise another child" was because her bio-parents already had a 19 month old daughter at the time and could not AFFORD to raise another child. In the first episode of RW: St Thomas, they explain this. Again, sorry if I forgot to put the source, I'm still trying to get used to editing massive amounts to Wiki.

Brandon's nickname "Hollywood"? I NEVER heard anyone in the episode, or himself even, call him Hollywood. Not at all. I have no idea where that information came from.

I honestly did not notice the cite error you mentioned before, and when you sent me the first message, you appeared to have already fixed it, so what was I going to? About me "using slang and informal language", I am only 18, and I just graduated high school. I thought I was actually doing a pretty decent job with my contributions, but now that you've told me to "Please stop" it kind of kills my confidence right there and now I'm kind of sad that you've told me that.

Would it be okay with you if I continued adding the Denver episodes (considering that both of us have already started and it looks sort of silly to have only 9 of the 28 episodes listed on the article) and then you could just help me edit them? Or does that give you more work to do? I really want to help with these articles because I love Wikipedia and The Real World is my favorite show, and if you could please let me continue doing this, and you help edit my mistakes, would that be alright with you? I will read the Wikipedia guidelines before I make any further edits. Arilicious (talk) 01:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course I took English classes in high school, hahaha. I would say I was a pretty decent English student, it was probably one of my best subjects, however, I will agree that I write rather informally. Even my Creative Writing teacher that I had for the second semester of my senior year told me my writing style is sort of Holden Caulfield-ish, which, sure comes in handy for creative writing assignments, but certainly not for an encyclopedia. I'm not disagreeing with that at all, I guess mostly comes branches off of how I speak in real life, like an 18 year old. I try my hardest to sound/write more proper and formal, and whenever I had to write essays in school I normally got pretty high grades on them, in most cases. One thing I should do, however, is keep my edits more brief, and not to shower them with unnecessary details (or use any 'slang', which for me is part of my every day language, but I will try my hardest not to use as much, if any.) I will also try my hardest to remember to check my grammar and spelling errors. (Hopefully having bad grammar/spelling with you in your talk page isn't a problem, considering no body else is really going to see it other than us, hehe. [yes, i know 'hehe' does not belong on an encyclopedia]). Okay I'm done now. Arilicious (talk) 03:10, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I am reading WP: Writing better articles write now, and I will try to remember everything in here before I make any further edits. Arilicious (talk) 14:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for repyling to my previous edit summary regarding references. I will use that from now on when I use the same references more than once. Arilicious (talk) 01:00, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Brian Haberlin
I appreciate your warning me about unsourced content on the Brian Haberlin article, as I am fairly new to being an editor here (plus I forgot I even had an account!). Nevertheless, it seems excessive to remove very basic biographical information that is easily verifiable. Brian is credited under his middle name, Jon, in the book Secrets of Poser Experts here. I sincerely doubt that Geni.com is a credible source, but I figure it's worth mentioning that he has a profile there that mentions his date of birth and birthplace of Hawaii. Anyway, thanks, and see you around. :D Ihaberlin (talk) 02:39, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if it's really worth all this fuss, just saw the archived discussion at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard and I certainly did not mean to cause a controversy, just add some stuff about my dad, which I assume is not in violation of any policies. D: Anyway, I think I'll leave this article be, but if you're interested his Geni profile is here. Thanks for helping out a Wikipedia novice! :D Ihaberlin (talk) 02:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Vanessa Paradis 2
Night, I hate to bother you with this, but the aggressiveness and shoot-first-talk-later Hearfourmewesique &mdash; with whom I have been polite and collegial, is getting to a very bad place where he's now resulted to insulting me on the Vanessa Paradis talk page.

Here is a list of his edits' policy, guideline and MOS vios. Among them, he's adding citations that simply do not say what he claims they say.


 * 1) First: He keeps insisting that The Hollywood Reporter, People, The Sun  and the Daily Mail are not italicized. Periodical names are italicized. This is basic grammar.
 * 2) This citation &mdash; http://www.allocine.fr/personne/fichepersonne_gen_cpersonne=99706.html &mdash; does not support the statement " Vanessa's sister, Alysson Paradis, is a French actress." Vanessa's name is not even mentioned in that citation. A second citation, which we both agree on &mdash; http://www.purePeople.com/people/alysson-paradis_p245 mdash; does specify Alysson is Vanessa's sister and an actress. So why he keeps re-adding a citation that doesn't suppor the claim when we already have one that does support the claim is being disruptive and argumentative for no reason.
 * 3) Finally, his version contains four images in a very short article. That's decorative and a vio of image guidelines.

That's where we are. I think the bigger overall issue is his angry, bullying, insulting and WP:OWN-like behavior, for which he's been blocked from editing in the past, and his talk page has numerous warnings about edit-warring, so this is not an isolated incident but chronic behavior. That's all I can say, and I can only ask for the sake of peaceable editing that you please come look. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC)


 * My sincere thanks as always, Night. I really think you defused things &mdash; sometimes all it takes is a calm third party. Things were getting ugly, and you stopped it. THANK YOU! --Tenebrae (talk) 23:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

WP: CENSOR
Hi! I see that you very knowledgeable about our censorship policies so I have a question that I often come across in being an AFTv5 reviewer. If someone puts a curse word in as their feedback, should it be hidden, or should I let it be because it's not supposed to be censored? Thanks, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 17:41, 8 July 2012 (UTC).
 * AFTv5 is a new tool designed by Okeyes (IronHolds) that replaces the current system of ratings. It is open-ended, and people can put in whatever feedback they want with it and it's visible to the public. It can be viewed at that specific article's page or at Special: ArticleFeedbackv5. Any reader can put a thumbs up next to it or flag it as abuse, but only rollbackers, reviewers, and admins can feature, hide, or request oversight on posts. Since it's open-ended, people can post whatever they want on it, from curse words, to BLP issues. I would liek to know if when I see a post containing obscenities, should I either hide it or let it be, as Wikipedia is not censored. Thank you, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 21:40, 8 July 2012 (UTC).

Gus Fring
Hi Nightscream, hopefully now that we are able to hold discussions in a mature and constructive manner, I'd like to offer a glimpse at an example of what I am forced to deal with lately. Please check out the revision history and talk page of Gus Fring (I probably found at least 85% of the article's sources) and tell me if I'm still supposed to remain WP:CIVIL after battling an editor who insists on lessening the article quality, while grossly misusing guidelines and policies. Thank you in advance for your mediation. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * FYI, we have both replied on the article talk page. I tried to keep mine as concise as possible, since Television Fan has made considerable efforts to turn this into a WP:TLDR charade... Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:16, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Nightscream. I actually had to take a Wikibreak following the extensive exhaustion on that page. I've explained all my points more than once, in every manner I could think of, and from every possible angle. This response from Television Fan is a clear indication that he is deliberately wearing me out by asking to explain things that have already been explained, and also pretending not to understand any of the policies I quoted in my responses. The WP:DUCK test is pretty obvious here. Please help. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 19:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm being trolled again and again. Further discussion is futile. TF is deliberately exhausting me with the same questions over and over again, while pretending that I'm the one who is being unclear; that in addition to constantly cluttering the talk page with petty, meaningless, sentence versions that bear no encyclopedic purpose whatsoever. I really don't want to feed him anymore. Sorry to turn to you over and over as the mediator, but the only desire for communication I have towards TF is the strong urge to find him and punch him in the face. I'm well past WP:BAIT – I'm actually dangling on the hook and trying not to suffocate. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 17:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You can also write back to my Gmail (same username as the WP account). Hearfourmewesique (talk) 17:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Now, to add insult to injury, he's interjecting more subheadings to further complicate the reading process and obscure his own troll behavior. This is beyond unacceptable. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * ...and also pretending not to understand any of the policies I quoted in my responses..
 * Eh, not really. I made a simple request to show me where in the Wikipedia policies he finds support for his position. He can easily copy and paste from the policy and place in quotes the words of the policy. Not to difficult.


 * I'm being trolled again and again....
 * Huh?


 * Hearfourmewesique has complicated things. I added a new subheading so that you would not get lost in the last minute tit-for-tat exchanges between Hearfourmewesique and myself in a section that was meant for our replies to you.  I've made a couple of replies to your responses that ask for your input.  Instead of stopping right there and waiting for your input, Hearfourmewesique has intentionally added minutia that makes it more difficult for you to lift out and see our replies inside of our tit-for-tat exchanges.


 * Please read the replies up to the time of 16:38, 23 July 2012. You should disregard those said afterwards because Hearfourmewesique stopped directing his comments towards you and re-directed them towards me (which resulted in the tit-for-tat exchanges and the creation of a new subheading).Television fan (talk) 00:47, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

TelevisionFan, please keep your messages separate from those of others. As I indicated on the Gus Fring talk page, it's way easier telling the authors apart at a glance.

I'm not going to look through the talk page's edit history to see precisely where all these subheadings that have been mentioned were, but the current organizational structure on that page looks okay. Nightscream (talk) 00:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Nightscream, Thank you for responding to my replies at 00:48, 24 July 2012. I will now try to have a dialog with Hearfourmewesique which uses your input. Thanks again.Television fan (talk) 00:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Red Bank
Alan, please do not do blind, blanket reverts of articles, as you did here. Unless you can assert that all of my edits to that article were without merit, such reverts are completely inappropriate. The material you mentioned as having been removed was removed for good reason: Much information in the article was unsourced, and quite a number of the photos in the article were of poor quality, bore no relevance to the sections they were in, harbored only incidental relevance to the city's notability, and were so numerous that they violated WP:STACKING. In addition, you also undid all the other work I did to that article, fixing citation formatting, placement of fact tags; moving images to more relevant sections, a lot of copyediting (compare the passage on Kevin Smith in the In media section to what it looked like before, for example), and you even removed material that I added to the article with a source. Please examine the edits a bit more closely if you're going to revert them all.

To be fair, the aerial shot does make a better choice for the Infobox, and I missed the fact that passage about the ice boats in the Arts and culture section was indeed sourced, and not unsourced, as I mistakenly believed. Thanks for that. Nightscream (talk) 02:53, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I can assure you that adding about 15 new sources to the article, addressing almost all of your fact tags and removing some of the unencyclopedic material in the article was not a "blind revert". I do appreciate your frustration, as while I did try to restore as much of the redeemable content as possible, some of your rewording may have gotten lost. I tried to re-use as much of your effort as possible, but the significant re-arranging of content made it very hard for me to deduce what had changed, even after I tried to line the material up against each other paragraph by paragraph. I agree that the photos were often placed illogically and I tried my best to match your placements or to put them into other appropriate places. Please understand that my intention was to address the concerns you had raised and that many of the sources I had added to address these concerns has been effectively lost in a "blind revert", at least from my perspective. I know that I was not perfect in my efforts to retain your rewording, but I would hope that we can all devote effort to retain as much of our respective improvements to the article, especially for items that now have "fact" tags, which had been addressed in my edits. I hope that we can work together to improve this article, one that needs and would benefit from further improvement through copyediting and improved sourcing. Alansohn (talk) 03:09, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Jaycee Dugard
For the record, the source for the address of the kidnappers' home was from the ABC video where Jaycee was interviewed by Diane Sawyer. You could see the house number in the video. 69.181.82.102 (talk) 05:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC) Countedx58 (talk) 05:52, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Chesley Sullenberger
Sorry, but this is nonsense. You let a linkfarm stand, in violation of WP:EL, and you argue that a couple of "popular culture" references (unreferenced!) establish the subject's notability, which is unquestionable in the first place. Seriously--"Sullenberger is referenced in "The Hero", an August 2011 episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm in which Larry David is compared to Sullenberger for accidentally tackling a belligerent, drunken man on a flight to New York." That establishes notability? I would expect that an admin with seven years wiki experience would know better. Surely you're familiar with, for example, WP:V. Drmies (talk) 13:37, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

International Information Technology University
Hi! My name is Nursultan. I am Kazakh. I am student of International University of Information Technology.I and my friend have started to write an article about our University. So we have an problem. We want to upload the logo and the university images to English wikipedia. I have read all the rules about uploading, and then requested from my university managment to use their logo and images. They accetpted my request to use their files only in English, Kazakh and Russian Wikipedia. I did all the things to upload following files, but could not do it! If you can help us it will be great for us! Thanks for your attention. with regards -Mr.Karahanly (talk) 15:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC) P.S.: Sorry for my not good English.


 * Hi Nightscream! :Thank you for your not disregarding my question. :This logo and the image of our university is in my computer. I can give to upload this file by yourself, and it will be perfect to us. How can I give this files to you? This files we will use only in the article International Information Technology University. with regards -Mr.Karahanly (talk) 04:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry previously I forgot to log on to the wikipedia so the signature was the computer ip. Then I edit it to my signature. Is it legal if you take it from the Russian wikipedia? If not I will upload it to hosting service. Is it OK? Mr.Karahanly (talk) 07:08, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It will be awesome if you upload this files by yourself for us. I don't know why the button is not working. I filled all the fields of uploading but unfortunately button don't want to work. I don't know is it not user-friendly or is it my fault. So I ask you to upload it if it is not problem for you. Thank you. Mr.Karahanly (talk) 04:22, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Nightscream. You have given us invaluable help Mr.Karahanly (talk) 05:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Merging all the Symbiote related media sections into a separate article?
Hey Nightscream, first, you need to archive this page. Damn long. Second, I was looking at the Symbiote related main articles Eddie Brock, Carnage (comics), Venom (comics) and Symbiote (comics), and there is a fairly heavy overlap of appearances particularly on Symbiote (comics) where all those mentions are from those characters since the Symbiote is rarely an individual character, and in Eddie Brock's case, most of the Venom mentions are attributed to him even though he hasn't been Venom in a long time, so it splits the mentions across articles and creates different attributions. I was thinking of potentially creating a single article like Symbiote in other media or something (which admittedly doesn't lend itself strongly to intuitive finding if you're thinkinf of Venom or Carnage in particular. That way we could cut down on the multiple mentions across different articles, reduce redundancy when correct info exists in one place but doesn't/is outdated/is incorrect in another, makes it easier to maintain that info for Films/Games/TV, easier to police, allows for expansion and so forth. Off the top of my head you could do something like:@
 * Video game
 * Eddie Brock
 * Whatever (As Venom)
 * Whatever (As Anti-Venom)
 * Flash Thompson
 * Whatever

Or
 * Videogame
 * Venom
 * Whatever (Eddie Brock)

Or you could just add a paragraph at the top like "All Venom's are Eddie Brock unless otherwise specified". I'd post it on the article talk pages but people rarely seem to give feedback on comic articles especially less imminently relevant ones. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The hosts is a separate matter, I just think that someone who was essentially a buffering point for two issues shouldn't be listed alongside Brock and Flash. Then you get people arguing that Ms Marvel was a host that needs mentioning because it jumped to her for 4 pages. Need to draw a line somewhere. I will take a crack at a mock up of the article when I get time and link to it. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:16, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's fine for now, Fortunato being up there is not one of the priority problems with that page. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've put this together if you have any ideas or suggestions. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:41, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

User:108.74.208.56
This editor has been going around making repetitive edits that may not be in line with page consensus. My attempts to get him/her to communicate have not succeeded. Could you try? Jprg1966 (talk)  04:16, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This user added "to be continued ..." at the end of a number of episode summaries, such as here, here, and here, among others. My reverts and attempts at discussion were ignored. Then there were a whole bunch of changes like this that weren't explained. Jprg1966 (talk)  16:23, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

George Lazenby
That's cool, it's one of those weird ones.SPACKlick (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
- Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 16:31, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Replied. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 18:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Replied. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 19:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Spoilers in episode lists?
Hi, I see you've been involved in Manual of Style/Television. I have begun a discussion on spoilers in episode lists and would appreciate your input. -- ke4roh (talk) 02:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

George K. Tenety
Trying to add George K. Tenety on the Notable Residents of Bayonne, NJ page and you took it off. He is the founder of the world renowned website www.Sportsgrit.com. It's an amateur sports social network that currently has users in all 50 states and 18 countries. This highly sucessful website is growing and getting new users daily. Please let me add George K. Tenety to the notable residents of Bayonne. Also, we are looking to create a Wikipedia page for SportsGrit. Please let me know if you have approved for George's name to be added to Bayonne's notable residents. George.tenety 22:25, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Jeph Loeb
WP:BRD I took out the paragraph about Sam from the comics section. The reason for this is that it has nothing to do with Jeph's comic career as it's all about Sam. Also all the information can be found on Sam's page. Skute (talk) 22:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Also I'm sorry that we kinda got off on the wrong foot. I change the article in a way I'm sure we can both be happy with. 71.235.245.7 (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Rod Roddenberry Deletion Discussion
As a member of the Star Trek WikiProject (according to the template), I'm just letting you know abou this DR request--which I feel is a little unjustified given Rod Roddenberry's high profile in the Trek world. I've now found and added 2 WP:RS for Rod Roddenberry's article. So, I think his wiki article should be kept. Please feel free to give a comment--or not--if you wish. Thank You for your time, --Artene50 (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The article was poorly organized when it was DR'ed. I tried to organize it better but there were still some awkward sections in it. Regards, --Artene50 (talk) 18:18, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Is there some difficulty recording Roddenberry's birth date as (February 5, 1974) in his wikipedia article since we are not supposed to use sources such as IMDB here except perhaps for a record of a film's awards. I just ask this since I notice Anne Hathaway's article has the same format regarding her date of birth with no supporting source but no one disputes this--presumably because it is clear from the public records. I would think that a person's date of birth is important. Thank You, --Artene50 (talk) 19:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Its OK. I'll see if there are any books that have a biography on Gene Roddenberry in the future. They will probably have a page reference to his son's birth. But if not, I don't have a problem with Rod Roddenberry's wikipedia article having no date of birth. Best Wishes, --Artene50 (talk) 23:13, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Mike Manning
Hi! Mike is a very good friend of mine, and asked me to update his wikipedia page for him. I got my info from imdb, and saw it was cited at the bottom of the page so I didn't realize it needed to be cited again. Also, we're trying to veer away from the reality tv aspect, which is why I changed the beginning to actor and not reality tv star. Please let me know if this can be changed back. Thank you! Best, Krenda5 (talk) 16:14, 26 July 2012 (UTC)krenda5

Thanks for the message back. I apologize for any inconvenience I caused you. I will try to adhere to those policies when updating information in the future. Thanks so much! Krenda5 (talk) 04:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)krenda5

Thanks for the info! How can we upload the photo? Krenda5 (talk) 04:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)krenda5

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.
Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Spider-Man-response
I see you point there, but Steven Weber as Beetle (who was based off the Ultimate Marvel version of the character) was seen in the credits so far. It would take a week for the info to be added to Internet Movie Database. By the way, what do you think of the TV series so far? Rtkat3 (talk) 10:35, July 29 2012 (UTC)
 * The edit of mine you undid was for the first episode, which aired MONTHS ago. When I added that, it came directly from the episode's credits. Why even bother undoing a nearly four month old edit that NO ONE was disputing? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 02:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I find it interesting that you responded to my message on your talk page, Cyberlink, by leaving one here on mine, implying that you were willing to discuss this, but then you childishly removed my message from your talk page message with the edit summary "Not unsourced." I'm not sure if this means that you're conflicted between a genuine interest in discussion and irritation at seeing your edits undone, but it certainly does not speak well of you if you intend to collaborate with others with whom you might find yourself in disagreement from time to time. I was going to confine my answer to my talk page, but since it seems you're attempting to continue violating policy by reverting the edit, I have little choice but to leave additional messages on yours. Let me see if I can address your points:


 * The edit was not accompanied with a citation that indicated where the information came from. That means that readers cannot verify it, per the Verifiability Policy. That means it was unsourced, since that's what "unsourced" means, and this is not predicated by whether it "comes from an episode's credits", or whether the episode "already aired". (What do you think "unsourced" means?) The purpose of the Verifiability policy requires that readers be informed of where information comes from. While readers can presume that information on a film's cast is derived from its credits, this is not so easy with a TV show that has aired multiple episodes, which is why we have the episode cite template (provided here and explained in further detail here), which allows us to specify which episode information comes from.


 * As for your argument that the edit was four months ago, again, this is not relevant. There is no policy, guideline or principle that requires editors to remove unsourced material only if it hasn't been present four more than four months, or precludes them from "disputing" the information after that period. Editors sometimes miss things when they're initially added to articles, myself included. In what way should this preclude them from removing unsourced material when they find it?


 * Btw, you also undid other edits to the article, without providing an explanation for this in your edit summary.


 * Also, please observe Wikipedia's Civility Policy. Comments like "What's wrong with you?" could be perceived as a violation of that policy. If you come into conflict with another editor, please try to work out in a civil manner.


 * Please do not add that information to the article again without an accompanying citation. If you continue to violate WP:V or other policies as you have, you risk being blocked from editing. Please do not make that necessary. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 03:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Stan Lee
Could you restore Stan Lee's move-protection (sysop)? I think you removed it by mistake. Thank you. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  19:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but the page still with no move-protection at sysop level, just autoconfirmed. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  22:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it should be "[move=sysop] (indefinite)", like the protection of Rowan Atkinson or 2011–2012 Egyptian revolution, to name a few of them. Considering that it was vandalised in the past, it should not be moved by non-admins. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  23:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Mall info from 67.253.250.117
What on earth do you do with an editor like User:67.253.250.117? The material he's adding about anchors is extremely useful, and I presume that it's neither made up nor original research. I assume that this editor isn't going in to each store in each mall and measuring the square footage, and the numbers for the malls I'm familiar with are too reasonably accurate to be made out of whole cloth. But where do they come from? You know that I hate removing content like this and I'd be willing to source it, but I can't find the source that's being used and I've asked this IP and others (it may well be the same person) adding this material and I have never received a response or a reference. How do you deal with this kind of situation? It seems so weird going to WP:ANI to complain that some lunatic is adding valuable content but refuses to provide sources. Alansohn (talk) 01:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You know that I'm a tad more flexible in trying to deal with people who don't know how to source, but this situation is particularly maddening to me. The stuff is great and I'd be happy to walk through everyone of those dozens of articles where you did the reverts and reinsert the material if I only I had some idea of what the source is, but sadly I don't and this user has never answered. A block may well be inevitable, but no less sad. I would have hoped that a very stern warning from an admin would carry more wait than a nebbish plea from a mere mortal like myself, but some people just never catch on. Do what you have to do but please know that I would be willing to help in any way to reach a resolution to retain the content and the user if I could. Alansohn (talk) 02:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Notable residents
Having updated several hundred articles for places in New Jersey and around the country, the text "Notable current and former residents of Podunkville include:" addresses a constant source of confusion and is far from redundant. Based on the use of the term "Notable residents", many editors believe that the person must currently live in the place and have deleted entries with an edit summary saying that they no longer live in Podunkville. If you know of some way to make that clearer using a header I would agree that it would be redundant, but I can provide several dozen edits where I can show that this clarification eliminates confusion as to the inclusion criteria. Alansohn (talk) 23:18, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Comics Journal edits
The Groth quote comes from the same ref source as the immediately preceding sentence (#21, Cusick/Gauntlet). I've moved it to after the quote (which hopefully won't now lead to a "citation needed" notation on the first sentence. 71.190.131.105 (talk) 00:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Ancestry
Not sure what you're saying how it's "user generated" - the only user-generated things on Ancestry are the family trees/stories/photos and forum posts - the rest of the records come from records departments of the states or from libraries, like the Library of Congress or government sources like the Social Security Administration. Though we should not rely on Ancestry records, I feel that we can use them to back up certain things, but in any case, we must be 100% sure that the person in the record is a match. – Connormah (talk) 01:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Miles Morales response and more
I updated the history revolving around Miles' fight with Prowler cause I wasn't sure if we have positive confirmation that Prowler died from his gear exploding. That should've been elaborated more. Of course I have heard of one of the issues where Miles meets Captain America the same time he meets Gwen Stacy and Peter's Aunt May. There was a crossover where Miles met the Earth-616 Spider-Man in Spider-Men. What do you think of that crossover so far? I have been reading the synopsis for the Avengers vs. X-Men storyline on this website. What do you think of the storyline so far? Rtkat3 (Rtkat3) 7:10, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * All we know about both Spider-Men is that they ended up collaborating tog fight the Ultimate Marvel version of Mysterio (whose identity hasn't been revealed yet). Avengers vs. X-Men is doing good so far. At least the tie-ins are in full detail by people who have read the series unlike the few who had helped to update the Fear Itself page. Yes, I am on Facebook. PS, you should have some past discussions from 2011 here archived to prevent this page from getting too long. Just FYI on that. Rtkat3 (talk) 8:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion
Which is the better table; this or this? Feel free to comment on the articles talk page. Thanks.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:16, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

The Real World: Portland
The article you made for The Real World's next season is incorrect. The location of the next season is Portland, Oregon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.142.182 (talk) 01:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

List of Comic Book Men episodes
Hi. For some examples of webisodes, see list of Stargate Universe episodes, list of Heroes episodes, list of Community episodes and list of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes. Each of these is formatted slightly differently, but one thing they all do is collect the webisodes together under a separate header rather than interweaving them with the seasons alongside which they aired. Now, my point isn't just that "this is what other pages do, so this one should follow suit", but I personally think it looks a lot tidier, especially if we assume the podcast will continue with season 2 (and 3 and 4?). I also assume that not everyone looking for the episodes will be interested in the podcast, or vice-versa, and this way is easier to read for them, whereas it'll be pretty easy to make it clear which podcasts go with which TV season (matching table colours, sub-headings, etc.) for those of us interested in both. --Monkeynutbar (talk) 07:09, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Michael Lohan
Were there any details available on who divorced who? If so, we could rewrite the article and say he filed first, or vice versa. Spelling Style (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Brielle, New Jersey
Hello. I am replying to your message on my talk page. I obtained the motto from the town website (http://www.briellenj.com/), and did not cite the source because I have never seen a source cited for a town motto. Also I put the motto in caps because that is how it appears on the town website. Should I put in back in lower caps and cite the town website? Thanks--BuzyBody (talk) 23:49, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I made the changes as we discussed, thanks again!--BuzyBody (talk) 23:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Matt Bomer
Even if the article says he came out, you can't come out about something you never hid. I don't come out as part Swedish just because I happen to have mentioned it for the First time. I find that such a vocabulary implies that there is something abnormal about being gay. Keizers (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * it's fine how it's written, I was just explaining my take on the term "coming out". And now I learned what non sequitur means exactly. Had to look it upKeizers (talk) 15:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

The Real World: Atlanta
Hi there! I just came across the article for The Real World: Atlanta, which you created eight days ago. You wrote that it would be the "twenty-eighth" season of RW. In fact, The Real World: Portland is going to be the twenty-eighth season, and is currently in production (I changed the ordinal number at The Real World: Atlanta to "twenty-ninth" and made The Real World: Portland the preceding season in the infobox before I read the two references). The two references you included at The Real World: Atlanta are both just reports of casting calls for RW in Atlanta—neither of them state that a season of RW will be shot in Atlanta. I was unable to find any reliable sources to verify that there would be a season of RW in Atlanta. This makes an article about a season of RW in Atlanta speculative. Cliff Smith 18:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The Atlanta Journal-Constitution blog post from March 21, 2012, says: "The MTV show “The Real World” plans an open casting call for Season 28 here in Atlanta."
 * The 11alive.com (WXIA) page from March 24, 2011, says: "Producers will be casting the 26th season in Atlanta and other cities across the United States."

RW: San Diego (2011) Reunion and RW: St. Thomas
Hello. I just now added a reunion summary for 2011 San Diego season, without copying verbatim from the official MTV website. I'm sure you'll likely make some copyedit tweaks.

Also, in the current St. Thomas season, I think the relationships between Robb & Marie and Trey & Laura are so complicated that I think it would be better off to wait to see what happens the rest of the season before adding them to the Romance section on the main Real World article. In the last episode, Robb appears to have severed his relationship with Emily back home in order to focus on Marie, and Trey seems to be conflicted between another girl back home (Ashley) and accepting a relationship with Laura. Hmmm... DPH1110 (talk) 03:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Dawn Marie Psaltis
I see that you are an Admin. That makes me even more perplexed, because you should know BLP policy better than me. I must be missing something big. (If you know what, please educate me, I can learn something new. I am being sincere.) Right now I don't understand by any reach, that adding a Youtube ref as an RS that constitutes an attack on the integrity of any BLP subject, can be consistent w/ policy. So I reverted it. (Which according to my understanding is the prescribed thing to do, to protect both the BLP subject, and WP.) User:ChessPlayerLev re-added the Youtube ref. You added a supporting ref, but when I looked at it, it seems to be a blog report made by a voluntary contributor/user of the site, and it simply affirmed the existence of the Youtube video, and proceeded to give personal speculation. (The site seems very gossipy as a result, and how could this be a reliable source? And even if it was, how could simply affirming the existence of the video, be a contribution of anything, how could it be an RS giving any support to any content. [The existence of the video doesn't need a ref to support its existence.]). Looking forward to your answers. (I also opened thread at WP:BLPN.) Thank you. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 09:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * User:Nightscream, thanks for your response at the article Talk. I have some followups, would prefer to discuss them here, feeling it'd be more appropriate than article Talk. (Is okay? We could copy any conclusions arrived here, to article Talk, then.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 10:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * User:Nightscream, can we discuss the BLP violation here? Or I will continue it at the BLPN. Please let me know. I'm subjected to ad hominem and personal attacks at the Talk:Marie Psaltis, and, I would really rather avoid that, by discussing the issue here with you rather than at the Talk:Marie Psaltis, where I'd likely be subject to more ad hominem and personal attacks. (BTW, you are admin, and so are in a position to quell ad hominem personal attacks used by an editor to bully or intimidate another editor in order to squash discussion which might challenge material said user reintroduced. Again, said user reintroduced the material without discussion after my revert of it, even when article Talk thread had been opened for discussion. It's my understanding that incendiary material such as an accusatory Youtube video is supposed to be removed at once, even without the necessity of edit summary.) You are an involved admin and the article reflects the status that you want, but I disagree with this, and would like to discuss, in a discussion forum where I'm not on receiving end of a stream of personal ad hominem attacks. Does that sound reasonable? Thanks for your consider. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 10:38, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Nightscream, I had reverted the accusatory Youtube video according to my understanding of BLP policy, where such a ref is supposed to be reverted on sight, even without edit summary. Did I do wrong? You provided argument at the article Talk, that normally a Youtube video is not adequate as reliable ref, but in this case, that the accusatory Youtube video was okay as a ref in the BLP, *because*, the person making the Youtube video, the person making the accusation against the BLP subject, was himself notable. However, I do not see how that argument is valid. (For example, assume BLP subject 'A'. Person 'B', who is notable, makes an accusatory Youtube video, attacking the integrity of person 'A'. Person 'C', also notable, has a different grievance against person 'A', and makes an accusatory Youtube video against person 'A'. Person 'D', also notable, has an entirely different grievance against person 'A', and makes an accusatory Youtube video. Person 'E', likewise. Person 'F', likewise. Person 'G', likewise. And so on. Are you saying, User:Nightscream, that because persons 'B', 'C', 'D', 'E', 'F', 'G', and so on, are each notable, then the accusatory Youtube videos that each makes, may be included as refs in the BLP of person 'A'?) This seems completely wrong to me, and your argument that keeping the accusatory video made by person 'B' against the BLP subject, also therefore equally wrong. Are you saying it is right? If my understanding of BLP policy is wrong in this regard, then I would like to correct my understanding. Please remember at the time of my revert, there was no mention whatever in the BLP article about the BLP subject response to the accusatory Youtube video. My reversion was based on the condition of the article at the time of my revert. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:00, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you respond, please? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 14:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


 * User:Nightscream, you replied to my above question, at the article Talk, that in your view, it would be alright to add the accusatory Youtube videos in the BLP article of person 'A', made by notables 'B', 'C', 'D', 'E', 'F', 'G', and so on. It's frankly an astonishing response from you. For example, let me try and refute it, even without referring to WP policy (I'm not a policy wonk anyway), but instead using the following thought experiment ...


 * Let's say *you* (User:Nightscream) are a notable person and a WP BLP article exists on you. And you rub shoulders with lots 'o famous (notable) people. Let's say you're a tough business guy. And beat out many notable business people in the marketplace, who as a result, given their shortcomings as human beings, and jealously over your success, you have gained a lot of "enemies" (lots of notable people who don't like you so much, even though you are a really nice guy). Okay ... To even their grudges against you (in fact, in attempt to *smear* your reputation and ruin you), each of your enemies makes an accusatory Youtube video, impugning your reputation, that you were a cheater in their business deals with you. As a result, your BLP article on Wikipedia, is filled with refs to Youtube videos made by the individual notable persons 'B', 'C', 'D', 'E', 'F', 'G', 'H', 'I', 'J', 'K', 'L', 'M', 'N', 'O', 'P', 'Q', 'R', 'S', 'T', 'U', 'V', 'W', 'X', and 'Y'. (My gosh. You really made some enemies in your career! Now they've all fabricated accusations on Youtube, and every single one of the vids has ended up on your BLP article as a ref.)


 * If you were that successful businessperson in the thought experiment ... how would you feel about the condition of your BLP? How would you feel about Wikipedia for hosting a BLP in that condition? (And, do you still keep your answer to my original question posed above?) Thanks, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 19:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Mike Manning
Hi! I actually didn't update Mike's since you said a friend of his shouldn't update it, so I had a friend of mine (who doesn't know him) update it. In that article it does say the movie is getting great reviews though. He did however give me a picture that he owns that he'd like on his page. Thanks! Krenda5 (talk) 18:07, 14 August 2012 (UTC)krenda5

No worries! I'm sure you've read a lot of these things all day so I totally understand. I just had two more questions, and I promise I'll be out of your hair. :) How do I change his birth year to 1990? Is there a way to do this? (I don't mean to go against the close friends code. It even says on IMDb that that is his birth year) Also, I would like to do the free-license image for his page, but I can't for the life of me figure out how. :( Krenda5 (talk) 20:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)krenda5

Richard Benjamin Harrison
You said: "This is not grammatically correct, in light of the way the sentence is structured (with the word "While" at the beginning of it, which creates a clause that's incompatible with the conjunction "but").)"

I had to study the sentence for a few minuets before seeing that you're right. I did make an error in grammar. The word "While" is what sunk me, a result of me not reading the text carefully. I made another error. ..."he has indicated that". This is a bit ambiguous because it can refer to either Harrison. Entree read as follows: "While Harrison's son, Rick, has mentioned that his grandmother stated that they are descendants of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, he has indicated that he does not give much credence to this idea."

I wonder who "he" refers to. I think the pronoun is pointing to the elder Harrison, but it's still a bit ambiguous. I think that the entire paragraph is clunky and wordy, so I smoothed it out a bit.

I change it to:

"While Richard "Old Man" Harrison's Wife believes that the family are descendants of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, The Old Man is skeptical about the relationships."

Note: I added "about the relationships." because it's more technically correct. Do you think that maybe the sentence should end at "skeptical"? It might sound better, even though it's chopping. Yosemite Todd (talk) 20:12, 14 August 2012


 * The way I read it the first time is that it was the old man who didn't give much credence to the idea.
 * Are you 100% sure that it was Rick expressing doubt and not old man? With no doubt? If you have even a slightest doubt, then you need to find out for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yosemite Todd (talk • contribs) 00:33, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

You changed my edit back. And this has me very discouraged. And the reason why is that I know that the prose of my last edit was the better one. I studied grammar and prose. My edit was better because it conveyed the same idea with about 10 words deleted. And the prose was much smother.

You have lock down the page. And this has made me very angry. I believe that this violates the very principles of Wikipedia and all wikis. This is why I believe my anger is justified and your behavior is completely inappropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yosemite Todd (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 August 2012 (UTC) -Yosemite Todd-  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yosemite Todd (talk • contribs) 17:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Lohan comment
You also removed my comment on the Michael Lohan talk page. I remember reading (Talk_page_guidelines) that this is actually discouraged. Spelling Style (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Saga (comics)
It depends what you are after. If you think it is in reasonably good shape, stick it up at WP:GAN; there doesn't seem to be anything glaringly wrong with it. This is usually a pretty good way to get general advice and improvement when an article is already good. The other option, particularly if you are unsure if it is OK, is to get a review at WP:PR. However, this can be hit-and-miss; it may sit there for a long time, and there are only a few editors who regularly review, and they have to do a ridiculous amount of work these days so progress can be slow. And I'm never sure PR is the best thing for GA, it is better for FA. Or, if you want me to have an informal look, I'm happy to do that. Let me know. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:27, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Poltergeist edit
You have every right5 to revert it, but don't claim it was a 'personal view'. I was merely stating a fact.60.224.160.192 (talk) 20:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The New 52
Nightscream, what an interesting life you must lead. First of all, reread the edit notes. I never claimed the current picture is "uncopyrighted." Second, since when is that other image mine? I found it in the edit page of the article, you ignorant twit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.92.122.8 (talk) 01:30, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * 1. Your edit summary stated, "Replaced copyrighted image with uncopyrighted image." So yes, you indeed made that statement.


 * 2. Wikipedia requires editors involved in disputes to do so in a manner that is civil. Please do not attack other editors as you did above (and as you did on my talk page), as doing so can result in being blocked from editing. If you come into dispute with another editor, try to stay cool while doing so. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 01:45, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Nightscream, the edit note reads, "Replaced copyrighted image with uncopyrighted image." I know you probably didn't attend an Ivy League institution like me, or even a top 100 college for that matter, so let me make this easy for you to comprehend. That statement suggests that I replaced an image that was copyrighted with an image that I believed to be without a copyright. Yes, I did used the term "uncopyrighted," leaving out the hyphen, which is most likely why you put in quotations. I do, however, hope you appreciate that "un-copyrighted" is, in fact, a word in our great, English lexicon. However, that's not the point. You wrote, "That image is of a cover of a comic book published by DC Comics, so it is not 'uncopyrighted', as DC Comics indeed owns the copyright to it." Here, you are talking about the image that is currently on the article page, which is the image that I referred to as "copyrighted," not "uncopyrighted." Now, I know you have a 3000 calorie lasagna plate in the oven, so please do ponder the semantics of this linguistic exercise while you stuff your Italian face. After observing your edit page, I can see that you are rather contentious in nature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.92.122.8 (talk) 02:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Nightscream, tl;dr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.92.122.8 (talk) 03:27, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Frank Cho
Hi, this is Frank Cho, the creator of Liberty Meadows and Marvel writer and artist. I tried to correct and clarify couple of the the statements on my biography but you removed them, citing unreliable source. I like to think that I'm a reliable source of my life. If you have any question or concern about me, please contact me directly through my website, www.apesandbabes.com or wwww.libertymeadows.com

Thank you.

Frank Cho Frank Cho 1971 (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, there's no way of knowing if you're really Frank Cho, and Wikipedia has been hoaxed before by very convincing-sounding impostors. So have Facebook and Twitter, which is one reason Twitter now has the "verification" process.


 * But even if this the actual, for-real Frank Cho, Wikipedia disallows what it calls original research such as claimed personal knowledge. That's why we have to use reliable published sources. Otherwise, as I'm sure you can understand, anyone could say anything about themselves. Would you want an encyclopedia where, say, Dick Cheney can go in and say anything about himself that he wanted to? --Tenebrae (talk) 21:10, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Counting Cars
I've never edited a semi-protected article before and saw the Counting Cars article you created so I don't know what the procedure is other than go to the user's talk page and inform them. I edit a lot of TV series articles and I watch this show. I added an intro section and updated the production infobox to help further improve the article. I hope that's okay. If not, then by all means you can delete the info. Sue Kastle (talk) 18:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Steranko and Starheroes
You tell 'im, bro'! I can only assume that people like that are just kids too young to be editing here. 'Cause if they're adults, God help us! : )  --Tenebrae (talk) 04:03, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Rob Liefeld
Sorry, I was just adding to his article about the comic book greats interview. I have only watched part of the interview I don't know exactly what was discussed with Stan Lee.Msruzicka (talk) 22:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

The Real World
Sorry, I did not know I couldn't use that website as a source. Just so I know in the future, what websites can I use for sources? sly0981 (talk) 22:48, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

The Real World references
Have you seen the movies 21 Jump Street or 10 Things I Hate About You? Well, both movies have Real World references in them. In 21 Jump Street, there is a RW reference at a party scene, while in 10 Things I Hate About You, a girl is watching a clip of The Real World: Seattle on a TV in her bedroom. In the Parodies, derivatives, and references section on the main Real World article, there is only one statement that is sourced. Hmm, what do you think? DPH1110 (talk) 17:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)DPH1110

Re: Stan Lee
The reference to Stan for "Damage Control" refers to Stan the Janitor, not the real-life Lee. I also corrected the "Why I Hate Gym" reference regarding the mentioning of Irving Forbush.DanielC46 (talk) 20:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

A footnote could be added to the Stan Lee page as a source for his working methods circa 1966: where he describes the process in some detail. Thanks. 66.65.115.118 (talk) 14:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Stephen King influenced by William Golding
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/apr/11/stephen-king-william-golding-centenary Sbrianhicks (talk) 19:47, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * http://thrillerwriters.org/join-itw/thriller-awards/past-nominees-winners/ Sbrianhicks (talk) 23:35, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Uh, I know how to insert bare URLs but I've forgotten have to do anything else. I haven't done much Wikipedia editing or reading in a while.  Usually I can get by with just doing it occasionally but sometimes the citation police catch me.

Also is King considered a postmodern author? Under his article's categories he is listed as one but I'm not sure. If you agree he is then, if it's okay with you, I'll add that to the info box as his "movement." I hope what I just typed makes sense considering I just woke up and am half asleep ... Thanks! Sbrianhicks (talk) 14:50, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

George Pérez - New 52 Superman/Action Comics timeline
Hi, I corrected an error on the George Pérez page that you reverted. Action Comics takes place five years prior to the events depicted in Superman. You're stating that it's "five years ahead", which is inaccurate. The phrase "five years ahead" that George uses in the cited article means his Superman series occurs five years ahead of Action, not the other way around. Are you actually reading the series? The timeline in Action Comics is right when Clark arrives in Metropolis. Superman is after he's been around for a bit, after he's established and known publicly. TunaSushi (talk) 03:57, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)
Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page. In this issue: Read the entire first edition of The Olive Branch -->
 * Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
 * Research: The most recent DR data
 * Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
 * Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
 * DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
 * Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
 * Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:19, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

More Real World Discussion
Hello. On the Departed Housemates section on the main Real World article, I removed Bronne Bruzgo (The Real World: Cancun). Even after he was evicted from the ME Cancun hotel for the fire extinguisher incident, he was still allowed to visit the rest of his roommates in their suite, but not allowed to sleep there. So he never did depart. Unlike his housemate Joey Rozmus, who was evicted after his firing from the group job, or Adam Royer (The Real World: Las Vegas (2011), who was completely barred from the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino for his drunken shenanigans, even when Royer returned for that season's 12th episode. As far as Brandon Kane (The Real World: St. Thomas), I feel that it is significant enough because of the serious offense that got him evicted. DPH1110 (talk) 06:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)DPH1110

Notable people vs. Notable residents
I'm a bit agnostic on the topic, but WikiProject Cities/US Guideline suggests that we use "Notable people" rather than "Notable people". I've never been one to slavishly adhere to a standard if it contradicts common sense as I see it, but I see no reason not to conform in this case and I have the change made automatically as I work my way through New Jersey articles. Any thoughts on the subject? Alansohn (talk) 20:20, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that it's me that "insists", rather than the guideline, but I usually figure that if there is no good reason to ignore it, why not accept it? Alansohn (talk) 21:21, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

John P. O'Neill
Nightscream, thank you for your input and yes, I'm a wiki rookie editor. I will learn from my mistakes. Thanks for sending me the proper procedure. Bostonlad (talk) 14:31, 12 September 2012 (UTC)Bostonlad

User:68.3.67.81
Hello Nightscream, This one has become active after several months inactivity and looks to be the same editor editing in similar fashion. From the block log, you appear to be familiar with this and I thought you may want to review. Cheers, — Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:20, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Spider-Man II response
I have read your response. Even if we add some info on the List of Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man story arcs, the people should still know about Miles' first encounter with Captain America and any other important events for him to come. Rtkat3 (talk) 2:16, September 12 2012 (UTC)

The Real World: St. Thomas Reunion
Yes the St. Thomas reunion did indeed air immediately after the season finale, I just forgot to include that. I have to leave for work now. DPH1110 (talk) 18:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC)DPH1110

I just added another summary involving the topics discussed. Feel free to "trim some fat" and/or make some tweaks. DPH1110 (talk) 19:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)DPH1110

Asking a couple of WPC admins to weigh in
WikiProject Comics Manual of Style is silent on this, but countless examples exist of comics features, such as "Tales of Asgard" in Journey into Mystery or "Iron Man" in Tales of Suspense, being in quote marks, while the title of the comic-book itself is in italics. This follows the format of songs being in quote marks and albums in italics, or short stories being in quote marks and novels or collections being in italics.

There's a conversation going on at Talk:Judge Dredd about whether the Judge Dredd feature in the anthology comic 2000 AD should be in quote marks or italics. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Anthony Godby Johnson
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_Godby_Johnson&curid=2614980&diff=513264043&oldid=512786171

I don't know how to make a header so don't need to notify me that this was not done right lol.

Anyways. You pointed out that I was wrong when I replaced "2006" with "2012" Because I had no sources.

Now, this is the sentence as It was before I corrected it, and as It is at this moment:

"In July 2006 ABC ran an update to the original 2007 story, which includes an 147-page response from Vicki Johnson's lawyer in response to ABC's questions about Steve Tarabokija."

Now, anyone with a common sense would realize that "IN JULY 2006 ABC RAN AN UPDATE TO THE ORIGINAL 2007" Makes no sense, as you can't run an update from a story that happened in the future. How the hell can ABC run an update from 2007 in July 2006?....

Maybe "2012" was not the correct answer, but I urge you to correct that illogical statement that stands as of right now.

Thank you. User:76.64.22.236 September 19, 2012

Da Vinci Code
sorry, the sources u r talkin about are in Gospel of Jesus' wife article, I haven't copie 'em yet.. --Ulisse0 (talk) 13:47, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Toure: Definite improvement
Thanks! I couldn't think of a concise summary. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 19:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Wayne NJ
Your history of interference on the Wayne page (among other pages) has shown that in the pursuit of what, in your opinion, constitutes Wikipedia standards, you have hindered the proliferation of reliable and accurate data. To me this seems to be ultimate goal of the site, although it may not be yours. Perhaps it would better suit you to edit pages about topics on which you maintain some degree of knowledge, although your spotty history has shown that this may be impossible, given your record. Since, despite your confusing devotion to Wikipedia, you have little to contribute in terms of valuable content, you should seek to help those who do offer knowledge, and learn to interpret the guidelines in a way which allows you to accomplish this goal. 69.118.24.248 (talk) 00:43, September 23, 2012

Johnpacklambert and poorly-sourced article creation
What article that I created are you attacking me for it not being notavble? That seems like an over-the-top attack. Also, there are many articles in wikipedia that have no in-line citiations at all. I remain unconvinced that an in-line citiation is required for every single fact in a wikipedia article. Lastly, the fact that you have attacked me for edits which involved merely altering categories to reflect what is already in the body of the article just seems over-the-top and excessive. I really am trying to figure out how to get more opinions on this matter.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Robert Kirkman
Good call at Robert Kirkman. Guess it's not too hard to take a reasonable guess at who'd made that change! --Tenebrae (talk) 16:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The latter one.


 * So I got my press pass for the NYCC. Maybe we'll manage to connect and say hi this year! --Tenebrae (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Surnames in The Real World articles
Hello. I don't know if you follow The Challenge as much as The Real World, but I'm possibly headed toward an edit war with another user, regarding using a contestant's full name in the initial cast table vs. only using their screen name in an initial cast table. On the Fresh Meat II article, the aforementioned main The Challenge article and Battle of the Seasons (2012) article, a user keeps changing Christian "CJ" Koegel to "CJ Koegel," when his real first name of "Christian" can be verified. Now I don't know if this policy is explained under WP:SURNAME. I think that if a player's first name can be verified, then it should be displayed with their last name (and nickname/initials, if one is available) in its first mention. Unlike CJ, we don't know the first (non-initial) name of JD Ordoñez or MJ Garrett. What's your take regarding this situation? Thanks. DPH1110 (talk) 07:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)DPH1110


 * Yeah, he did the same thing to the Cancun article. The thing is, there was no citation in the cell containing his name, so I let it go, figuring I could put off the matter until later. So I looked just now at his bio in the Cancun article, and saw that one of the sources cited indeed supports his real given name. I restored it to all three articles, and added that cite. Nightscream (talk) 12:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)


 * You are missing the point. Firstly, you and the other user continue to ignore my valid point that we do know JD's first name. It's Jesus. It's all over the Internet. Secondly, Paris is not the same. CT was credited as Chris his Real World season, then changed his on-screen credit after. CJ was always CJ on-air. This is in accordance with Wiki policy. Like J.D. Salinger, CJ Miles, and TJ Lavin. Ew0sdc (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

User:124.169.99.54 and feminisim-related article content: Revert, block, ignore
The IP most recently known as 124.169.99.54 is the latest iteration of an obsessive editor who is convinced that all feminists (and their dupes) are misandrists. His particular obsessions include articles on the Lifetime Channel, Women in Refrigerators, video game discussions, Anita Sarkeesian, and feminism itself. I've removed the discussion you tried to have with him (in which you were remarkably patient) in the Refrigerators article, on the WP:RBI principle; and I've blocked the IP address since it quacked so very loudly. I thought you deserved an explanation, of course. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Look at his editing history as User:203.206.73.28, as User:203.59.21.188, as User:124.148.247.133, as User:188.100.195.242 (same articles, same language, same obsession with "gender feminism" as "misandrist" [he loves that word]), to mention the four easiest to find. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  03:16, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Sarcastaball.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Sarcastaball.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

South Park talk page policy notice box
—Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:44, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Matt Bomer photo
I don't want to drag this out on the talk page of an article. I wrote a long rebuttal of every point you made, but it isn't worth it. The oddity of this situation is that we are in complete agreement on who gets to decide which image is used, yet you seem to think otherwise. I can't control what you think, and correcting your misunderstandings looks like more work than it is worth, so I'm moving on, unless you are interested in knowing what you got wrong.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  21:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Spider-Man's powers and equipment
On the Spider-Man Powers page, I didn't put in the part that said "wrong." I was just reverting the page to a previous version to get rid of the One More Day nonsense that'd been posted there, and that was part of the original page too.69.120.192.173 (talk) 18:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Raising the Bar (South Park)
''Hi. Please to not replace properly-worded material with slang, as you did with this edit to Raising the Bar (South Park). Wikipedia must be written in a formal tone, without such informal wording. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 11:39 am, Yesterday (UTC−4)''

I don't know... I think it was a well-fitting exception. And what would a democratically-steered wiki be without well-fitting exceptions? --MercWithMouth (talk) 11:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well... I'm pleased to see you've given this a lot of thought. MercWithMouth (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, it doesn't take a lot of thought to know the difference between slang and non-slang. But just out of curiosity, what's with all the bullets? You a gun nut, or something? ;-)


 * Do a Google search on 'MercWithMouth'. Then... see here: http://imgur.com/50RUO MercWithMouth (talk) 18:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Phil Farrand's website, Nitcentral
You were/are on Nitcentral!?! (Just read your user page). Where you there for the Star Trek nits? If so, what nits did you come up with? I'm sure I read it! I read and still read those Star Trek books after getting them when they first came out. I like to see the first minute of an episode, figure out which one it is, then quickly scan the text in the appropriate book, and spend the rest of the espisode seeing if I can spot the identified nits. I can't believe you were one of the Nitcentral Guild!!! Those must have been some wild times. I wish I knew of it back then. I would have loved to hunt for Star Trek nits. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 04:34, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Dawn Marie Psaltis, revisited
Just curious, how do you 'square the Jimbo quote I'm finding on your User page,"Seriously, anyone who puts [...] retaining terrible content above upholding ethical and legal commitments to integrity, accuracy, and protection of a person's reputation is quite simply a massive idiot. – Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales"with the fact that you argued at Talk:Dawn Marie Psaltis, in favor of retaining a scurrilous Youtube video accusing Dawn Marie Psaltis of fraud', plus adding a ref to a tacky wrestling blog that simply confirmed existence of the Youtube video?! While all in clear violation of BLP policy, even after this was pointed out to you (by a relative newbie, me)?! (I just couldn't help asking; please forgive. [So far you've been mute on the topic.]) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 01:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

FYI, I've responded at my Talk to your decision to attack me rather than provide an answer to the Q I posed. If you don't want to answer the Q, just say so. If you like to continue to personally attack me with accusations of being "obsessive", "child", etc., then that is an entirely different thing. To respond to my Q with personal attacks, apparently that's your idea of good Adminship?! Ihardlythinkso (talk) 06:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. As an uninvolved editor, I'd like to suggest that perhaps taking Avanu's advice and dropping this, might be a good idea for everyone at this point. - jc37 06:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Insecurity (South Park)
Hi Nightscream. Thanks for your improvements to Insecurity (South Park). As I said several times, I was well aware that the plot summary I wrote needed help. I hope you continue to assume good faith, cheers! Hoof Hearted (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The Real World: Las Vegas
I have begun editing to The Real World: Las Vegas article, adding episode information, just as I did for the Denver article. I have already put in the episode table to save myself time from adding to it, if that's alright with you, and I'm just going to add the episode summaries after each time I watch one. I have already watched the first two episodes. I am sticking to the basic rules of editing, however, if you feel there is something wrong with my edits and they need to be corrected, feel free to do so, and I will not be offended. Arilicious (talk) 20:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello again. What I had meant to say regarding my most recent edit on the RW: Vegas article, was that Alton wanted to teach Irulan to handle situations better, since she and the other girls in the house had began calling Marc a molester, Alton didn't want them to get in trouble for starting rumours about someone that may not be true. Hope you understand. Arilicious (talk) 17:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was what Alton said, he didn't want her or anybody spreading rumors about someone else. If you go to the reference link that I had put there, it explains it all. Arilicious (talk) 17:38, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Alton didn't want Irulan, nor the other girls, to get in trouble for starting this rumor probably because if the rumor were to have gotten bigger they all could get in trouble and Marc could lose his job? Do you get it now? That's what I got out of watching the show and reading the summary from MTV.com. Arilicious (talk) 17:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Because Irulan was the one that had been laying in bed with Marc, she was the one that began feeling uncomfortable, thinking he was creepy, in a molester type way, the other girls called him that, so yeah, when you think of it that way, Irulan was involved in calling him that. Arilicious (talk) 18:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is what I've been saying the whole time. And the episodes are available on the show's official website, although I think only people in the US can view them.Arilicious (talk) 02:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

What's Up DudeGuyManBro???!!!
I wanted to ask a few questions about your wiki Wikipedia status. Like, what do you get for editing Wikipedia? Do you get paid? What's up with the name 'Nightscream'?because it sounds a bit too awesome for Wikipedia, and also, what's your motivation with Wikipedia? With much love bra, so-me ran-dom guy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.71.209.247 (talk) 22:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Request at WP:RFPP
Hi Nightscream, there is a unprotection request at Requests for page protection on a page which you gave indef semi-protected to in 2010. Would you be able to have a look at the request? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:07, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied to your comment on WP:RFPP. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

NY Comic Con follow-up
Hey, Night, how's is going? Did you get any new Wikipix at the NY Comic Con, or was it just people you've shot already?

I have a question. An editor with whom I had a contentious relationship &mdash; including his going through all my talk-page posts to put together clues to my identity, leading to an admin warning him about that sanctions that would follow "outing" another editor &mdash; has left me a talk-page message asking my opinion on an article that I, along with others, have edited. We've asked each other not to contact other another. I honestly don't know if he's trying to make peace or to initiate contact for some other reason that would make me regret re-engaging with him. (He's removed all his talk-page posts regarding me, and I don't want to stir things up by linking to old, deleted content, preferring to let water go under the bridge.)

I don't want to be impolite toward a gesture of good will, if it's genuine, but engaging with someone you shouldn't engage with isn't a good idea, either. I'm not quite sure why he feels he has to ask me this particular question rather than making what seems an innocuous edit. Any advice you might give, I'd appreciate. My goodness; have you ever run across anything like this? With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 23:07, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Saga (comic book)
You have initiated an individual reassessment for Saga (comic book), but I think you meant for it to be a community one. I had a quick look at it anyway and just have a few points to make. While you are right that reviewers are not infallible gospel and can be questioned, they are also volunteers within this volunteer project. They are in essence doing nominators a favour by reviewing the articles and are under no obligation to accept your questioning or continue a review they are no longer interested in. If it is a persistent problem then they can be brought to the talk page where advice and bans have been handed out before. However, Malleus is a long term reviewer and one of the most productive and capable reviewers in the project so I doubt anything would come of it. While it is a shame you two fell out he was within his rights to abandon the review.

As to the article you can put it up for a community reassessment (an individual one won't work as the person who initiated it is supposed to close it and you obviously can not close your own nomination). However, reassessment is not the best way to deal with poor or incomplete reviews. If there was a specific aspect of the criteria that was being debated then we can help out, but we don't generally conduct full reviews (that is what WP:GAN is for). It is up to you, but if you go through the community process chances are it will be closed with advice to renominate. My suggestion would be to bite the bullet and renominate it now. Another reviewer will eventually take it up and Malleus's comments will be present in the article history template for them peruse. Either way you should probably delete the Talk:Saga (comic book)/GA2 page. AIR corn (talk) 05:24, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Jean-Claude Van Damme
Thanks for correcting me and pointing out my mistakes--Paniraja (talk) 23:27, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

I will. Thanks again!--Paniraja (talk) 23:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Legendary Pictures
Hi Nightscream! You put a link to Commons:Category:Legendary Pictures on Legendary Pictures (this edit). However, the category seems to be empty. Was there a purpose for this that I am not understanding? Regards, – Zntrip 01:34, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, makes sense now. Thanks! – Zntrip 02:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Alejandra Pizarnik Suicide
Hi! I saw your message. I added a new source for the suicide of Pizarnik. Please check it and let me know if I did something wrong. Thanks.Maga.de.noche (talk) 22:37, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Mitt Romney's 2011 FEMA Comments in Hurricane Sandy
Hi Night, with all respect intended, this is from 2011 and about FEMA. When I put something in there about last year, an editor took it out and said, it was last year...even though I thought it had weight to be put in the article like evidently you did. I just think it's too political for an article that is supposed to be about a hurricane. Would think what you had would be great in the FEMA section under something like controversies. I just don't want a beautiful piece of work like the Sandy article to be bogged down with any kind of political stuff. That's why I didn't want global warning in it. I believe in climate change, but that's not the point. One can speculate all they want about IF warming caused anything at any time. That still won’t make it fact. Wikipedia is supposed to be unleaning and with your entry, I believe it leans, even if romney said it. Respectfully Submitted. Kennvido (talk) 09:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Zombie
Sorry, I clicked the wrong button, and reverted your image. I meant to add that there was no indication that it had anything to do with the contents of the article.  Serendi pod ous  13:14, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant the lack of an edit summary. And I am sure that the image is germane to the topic; however, it is outside the scope of the article, which mentions none of those people.  Serendi pod ous  20:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There are two main problems I have: 1. article creep. This article is about voodoo zombies, not "Romero" zombies, and there shouldn't be any reference to them beyond the single paragraph that already exists. If you feel the need to add the image, it would be better placed in Zombie (fictional), which is about "Romero" zombies. 2. How is an image of a group of people not mentioned in the article meant to aid or educate the reader? It means nothing out of context, and it is completely out of context.  Serendi pod ous  21:08, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The other three paragraphs are about voodoo zombies in popular culture, not Romero zombies. I think the image fits well in Zombie (fictional), though its text could probably be better placed in the main body, assuming it survives the Red Pen of Doom.  Serendi pod ous  21:30, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Asgardian
Hi Nightscream. This IP user 24.1.246.28 asked me if I thought these two IP's were Asgardcian,. Any thoughts on any of it? Hiding T 16:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Todd Beamer
The citation I used does mention Todd Beamer. You just have to click on 2002 and it says Todd Beamer explicitly. 108.1.98.138 00:00, November 11, 2012

Protection of Bayonne
The article for Bayonne, New Jersey is currently hard protected against editing by any non-administrator until October 7, 2013, due to persistent vandalism. I'm not sure that there ever were enough edits to the article to justify persistent vandalism, as the article had only 2 edits in October, 8 in September and 4 in August, which would hardly seem to justify a block. It would seem that the current block should either be ended or significantly limited in scope so that legitimate edits can be made to the article. Alansohn (talk) 21:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making the protection change. I mostly updated and tweaked, but take a look at the article with a good Hudson County perspective. Alansohn (talk) 01:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Your behavior at Talk:A Scause for Applause, SPI
Thanks for your follow up at Talk:A Scause for Applause, here. I am concerned, however, about your lack of civility and your sarcasm - you are better than that, and a perusal of your past edits implies that this sort of reply is simply beneath you. Compare your attitude on that page with your RfA: I always try to conduct myself with logic and reason, and without responding to uncivil behavior by others with similar behavior on my part... walk the talk man. As a reminder, article talk pages are for discussion of content, not editors. You seemed annoyed at me attempting to shift the conversation on the article talk page back towards the article which I still view as the appropriate course of action; I think there was a missed opportunity there for face-saving and deescalation between you and the other editor. As an admin, you should commit to going above and beyond with respect to behavior, a concept with which I think you agree. Thank you for considering my feedback, and I look forward to working with you again in the future.

On a tangentially related note, your input is invited at Sockpuppet investigations/Hearfourmewesique. VQuakr (talk) 00:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
VQuakr (talk) 06:28, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Lazenby
Hi Nightscream, I was quoting the previous editor and (although I agree with him) I appreciate the comment regarding notability. It does, however, seem to fail WP:WEIGHT in my opinion. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 13:17, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Our South Park friend
Isn't the username a clear violation of policy (under disruptive or offensive)? BusterD (talk) 04:00, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

You aren't very welcoming to new editors, BusterD. Also, YOUR username offends ME.O. long johnson (talk) 03:19, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

How to Cite a web video
I read up on citing sources, yet I am still confused...

I know that I need to place an inline citation using a ref tag. But the only example is for a book. How exactly would I type one for "Film, TV, or video recording"? Where do I place each piece of information (and the URL) in the string of code? Birdy29 (talk) 07:27, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WIKIINK listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect WIKIINK. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:WIKIINK redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:33, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Neutral notice
There is a discussion involving WikiProject Comics at Reliable sources/Noticeboard that may be of interest to you. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:48, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Nicole Atkins: Neptune City vs. Neptune Township
All of New Jersey's paired municipalities pose issues in distinguishing between two municipalities with nearly identical names, especially when sources are usually ambiguous in distinguishing between the two. I couldn't be any gladder that the two Princetons are consolidating, not least because it has been impossible to determine in which one of the two the notables live. I'll grant you that Danny Devito might well be from Neptune Township, New Jersey -- not Neptune City, New Jersey -- despite the fact that the source moved from the city article to the one for the township says that "DeVito was born in Neptune, N.J." But Nicole Atkins has been a bizarre case. There have been other battles about her residence, with you putting forth the position (joined by others) that she wrote an album title "Neptune City", but that she is from Neptune Township. The biggest problem here is that the source you moved from the city article to the township article (see this edit) says rather clearly that "Nicole Atkins, from Neptune City, N.J., is a marvelously talented fantasist..." This source, from The New York Times, seems to be rather clear in refering to a place of residence, not a title of an album. As I have in the past, I searched for sources supporting her residence in Neptune Township in Google / News / Archives and found none. Nor can I figure out why no source has ever mentioned the discrepancy between the album title and her place of residence, which seems to be an obvious way to go for any one covering her and trying to find an angle. As I see it -- solely based on the source provided -- she is from Neptune City. Your edit summaries of "She is from Neptune TOWNSHIP, NJ, not Neptune City." and "Wrong. She's from Neptune Township, not Neptune City. The cited source does not indicate that the album's title is necessarily a reference to where she is from." simply state what you believe to be correct without any evidence to support the claim or explain the discrepancy. I don't have any reason to believe that you are wrong, but the absence of a source to rebut the rather clear statement in the source provided is problematic, at a minimum. As I see it, the entry for Atkins as a notable should stay in the Neptune City article based on the strength of the source, until and unless other strong sources can be identified that establishes her residence in Neptune Township. Do you have any ideas on how to deal with this, or any better sources to settle the issue? Alansohn (talk) 19:34, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
I'm calling on your powers as an admin with anti-vandalism experience and familiarity with the comics world, and because we've often edited some of the same stuff on Wikipedia. There's an editor, Dominusexmachina, who is demonstrating some irksome ownership issues at Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes by insisting on some edits that introduce grammar errors. This mostly involves the use of "composed" vs. "comprised" (I share Giraffedata's frustration with this problem), but it also involves the occasional incorrect comma placement and other minor issues. I have reverted these errors numerous times, and even left a polite (if exasperated) explanation on the user's talk page, but he appears determined to institute language he wants, regardless of its incorrectness, by reverting my fixes either under his username or under a couple of IP addresses (editing under the IPs completely matches the editing of Dominusexmachina and totally passes the quack test ). Most of their edits appear to be perfectly constructive but involve lots of minor wordsmithing rather than genuine contributions, which is why this feels like WP:OWN.

At this point, since the editor has ignored the warning on his talk page, doesn't use edit summaries, and is consistently reverting corrections that I and other editors have made to incorrect grammar and mechanics, it'd be helpful to have an admin weigh in and intervene as necessary.

Sorry to trouble you with what seems like minor stuff, but I'll admit I've gotten irritated with this editor's refusal to cooperate or collaborate. Thanks. Grandpallama (talk) 15:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for stepping in, and Happy Holidays to you, as well! Grandpallama (talk) 17:06, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Although he now appears to be leaving composed/comprised alone, he's still at it, reverting to his preferred version regardless of its correctness (or lack thereof). Grandpallama (talk) 15:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Jamal Igle
Jamal Igle is listed on the DC Comics website as the colorist on a number of their titles, listed on his profile page.http://www.dccomics.com/talent/jamal-igle 24.90.206.78 (talk) 22:56, November 28, 2012‎

Mike Lilly
Hello, my name is Mike Lilly. I tried to update my Wikipedia listing and all of it got rejected. I'm the actual comic book artist Mike Lilly. The information that was deleted was substituted with inaccurate information. My email is mikelillyart@gmail.com How can inaccurate information be given but not from the actual artist themselves? All the information I provided is accurate and true. You can look up any of those credits and see my name attached as the actual artist. How can I put up an accurate listing if the best source is the artist themselves? Like for example you said my award was not something that could be verified? I have it hanging on my wall. Do I have to go and contact the actual award people who handed it to me at the ceremony? Would a picture of the award suffice? And again, how can the listing for me on the site (which is inaccurate, lot's of credits left out acceptable but not mine, the actual artist?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.199.93.125 (talk) 05:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC this Saturday Dec 1
You are invited to Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and workshops focused on film and the performing arts that will be held on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and at meetup.com!--Pharos (talk) 07:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Flash mob
The community decided to exclude examples from the article flash mob to bring it in line with articles such as protest, fire, performance, etc. While there have been many notable flash mobs, protests, fires, and performances, examples are explicitly excluded as the same found in most encyclopedia's. If the event itself is notable enough for inclusion then a separate sub-article can be written about it. The reason the first flash mobs are included are because they are directly linked with the founding of it. Various discussions of this can be found in the archival talk pages of the article. Lastly, its arguable that the big bang "flash mob" wasn't really a flash mob. The fact that it was a part of the show and created for it and by professionals do not meet the definition directly. For example, a protest on a television series and a protest in real life are very different. Just like an episode made to look like a flash mob and an actual flash mob are very different things. Mkdw talk 20:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Your message
Hi, I just noticed you left me a message back in August, to which I never replied. My apologies. I was on a wikibreak for about a year-and-a-half, and only popped in briefly a few times. Your message concerned Ancestry.com, and discussion about whether it is a reliable source. If that hasn't been sorted yet, please let me know and I'll contribute my thoughts. (I assume it's been settled though.) I certainly do not regard that site as a reliable source. The only exception is that the site excerpts entries (which they've obviously paid for) from the Oxford Dictionary of American Family Surnames, which is, as the title suggests, a highly reliable source. Other than that, nothing on Ancestry is remotely reliable, in my opinion. Again, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Best regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks much for letting me know, and Happy Holidays to you and yours as well! :) MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Diallo Shooting
Sorry about the unsourced edit and grammar error. I was doing multiple things at once and was going to come back to the page but never did. At any rate it's been fixed now. I want you to know that I didn't mean to upset anybody or undermine Wikipedia. My intention was to improve the site, even if that's not the effect my actions had. Again, sorry. Have a good one. 141.161.119.250 (talk) 15:26, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Corey Clark
Nightscream, should the fact that Clark is suing MTV be listed under legal troubles? Seems to me that would be more of a legal remedy for Clark than a trouble. This at the very least is an indication that what Clark has been saying for so many years may actually have some substance to it do you agree? Should I create a new section for legal remedies? Please advise since it seems you have an extensive knowledge of the subject and look to be pretty invested in the tailoring of the article about him as well. 98.240.97.139 (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Pawn Stars episode order
hi nightscream, they may have aired it wrong, but if you go back and rewatch the episodes (history website when they put it up or if you have on demand) you will see chumlee reference in the video game deal, about his real life skills of shooting guns on the show. And they include the clip from the PREIVOUS episode of the hat bet. Therefore it would be after the episode not before.

Sylvia Browne
You twice deleted an addition to the Sylvia Browne page saying: "The words "Obama" and "re-elected" don't even appear anywhere on that page."

The first time I thought it was an error. The second time, I'm wondering if you lying about either looking at the article or undertanding it.

From http://www.goerieblogs.com/news/writersblock/2011/10/my-and-sylvia-browne-2012-predictions/ :

Here are some of her predictions: 1) President Obama will not get re-elected. While not a fan, she favored Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts.

That is the third paragraph of the article. You can use control F to find the word "Obama."

Please take the time to read the article before deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbeenPP (talk • contribs) 20:56, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I added the Erie Times-News source. I'm not adding the ABC News page. It was there before. Your sloppy removal messed up the tags.


 * Please take some time and look 1) at what's being added before you remove it and 2) look at what you removed. AbbeenPP (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN
While it may be "commonly done" for an article to claim that a person is "known for" or "best known for"; without a source stating that the person is "known for" or "best known for", it is WP:OR and not allowed by policy. An actors appearance in a movie can verify that the actor appeared in the movie. But that is all it can verify. and that is what my phrasing does. An actors appearance in the movies most assuredly cannot verify that the person is "known" for that role. and no, I do not plan on setting on a quest to remove the 60,000 improper articles, but i will fix any articles that make such unsupported claims when I come across them. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  04:08, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a GREAT difference between saying "He appeared in X" and "He is known for his role in X".
 * Ian McKellen appeared in Lady Grey London, but to state that "Ian McKellenis known for his appearance in Lady Grey London." is not a claim that is verifiable solely by his appearance in that production. In fact such a claim would be a complete fallacy, despite the fact that McKellen is certainly in Lady Grey London . Without a third party reliable source making the claim that a person is "known for" a role, such claims should not be in Wikipedia articles and cannot be restored without a source that supports the claim. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  17:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you still believe that there is no semantic difference between "he appeared in " and "he is known for" and think that the mere appearance in a movie is sufficient verification for the claim that McKellenis known for his appearance in Lady Grey London you may take whatever steps you feel are necessary to convince you otherwise. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I spotted this discussion, and, while I agree with you that the phrasing is common, I'm going to take RPoD's side that it actually is a WP:OR violation, especially in the variation "best known for ...". Simply saying that the person "appeared" in the works in question is infinitely preferable. There's no judgement being made about impact or notability. I'd like to see the "known for" terminology scrubbed out of our leads.&mdash;Kww(talk) 21:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Would you say that that reflects the community? Nightscream (talk) 21:23, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think the issue has ever come up. It certainly represents the letter and spirit of WP:OR, so I would never revert an editor that changed "known for" to "appeared in". It's one of those stylistic quirks that got copied from some of our early articles until it took root as a part of the common Wikipedia style. The phrasing has never bothered me enough to go for an RFC on the topic, but I'd be willing to bet that the community could be persuaded to see it as a WP:OR violation. Technically, it's a WP:BLP violation, so any editor that makes that change has a pretty good foundation for claiming that he is free to ignore consensus based on the overwhelming power that screaming "WP:BLP!" always lends to what should be a routine editorial decision.&mdash;Kww(talk) 21:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Though I am not active any more because of that kind of matters. My question is that, when some phrase or passage has to be figure out, and result is "known for" or any thing els, how can be that WP:OR?. There is also a policy use common sense or ignore all rules. We should not apply the policy I do not like it. I understand the piont of Nightscream.-Justice007 (talk) 21:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Iron Man's armor
The term "arc reactor" has not been used in the comics, yet. But has the same functions (generator of repulsor energy) and design of the one from the movie, also, Stark no longer possesses the Extremis virus in his body, he lost it during Secret Invasion. BTW, I've been contributing to Wikipedia since a long time, more than 3 years, I guess, but I stayed away for sometime focusing on the Marvel Wikia, of which I've become an admin recently. --Dourron (talk) 22:08, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Free rein
I certainly won't revert your removal of the indefinite article from "a free rein" at Peter David; but sources as respectable as Oxford and Collins regard the use of the article as an acceptable option. Ammodramus (talk) 14:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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Doctor Octopus
whoah! 24.12.74.21 (talk) 06:07, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * How else can people know his different plots if some of the television shows he was in doesn't have a character page? Also, "Updating history" and Updating media appearance" were my common Edit Summary comments outside of "Creating new page" and "Do you have proof of the information I just removed." What comment do you want me to replace the former two with? Rtkat3 (talk) 10:52, December 26 2012 (UTC)


 * How will this help with my last question? Rtkat3 (Rtkat3) 11:46, December 27 2012 (UTC)
 * So you want me to go with "Adding detail to history" and "Adding detail to media appearance" then! Outside of that, the Wikias already have their common drop-down details which can be chosen to go with the submitted info. Maybe Wikipedia will do that someday alongside the Message Walls that replaced the talk pages on Wikia. Rtkat3 (talk) 11:27, December 26 2012 (UTC)
 * Well then have a Happy New Year too. Rtkat3 (talk) 11:51, December 26 2012 (UTC)

I tried to get him to break down this edit so I could actually follow what he was doing (even explained myself on the article talk page) but I wound up giving up out of frustration. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 19:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
Sorry I've been out of touch this last week. Thanks for the nice greeting. BusterD (talk) 23:51, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Spider-Man-response
I was only trying to spice up the plot by mentioning who makes up the Avengers in that show as the reference lists who makes it up as well as mentioning on what Norman Osborn and Doctor Octopus were making plans on the capture of Spider-Man. Rtkat3 (Rtkat3) 11:06, December 31 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand what you just wrote. I'm now asking how you and I can make an improvement on the first season's main plot before Season Two debuts. Rtkat3 (talk) 11:21, December 31 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand what you just wrote just now. I was also mentioning about getting the first season's main plot modified before Season Two debuts next month. Rtkat3 (talk) 11:30 December 31 2012 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean on your user contributions page with the different edit summary comments. I'll figure out a way to make common versions of the specific brief summaries by the time 2013 starts tomorrow. Rtkat3 (talk) 11:50, December 31 2012 (UTC)