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Celia Stopnicka Heller. Tijfo098 (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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Your comment on the Wojtek page
hi you said you'ed love to help with the Wojtek project? did you mean it, if so can you indicate how and in what way. are you the same person https://www.facebook.com/piotrkonieczny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lambrook (talk • contribs) 11:36, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Outreach
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DYK? Nomination Review
Hello Piotrus,

Could you please review this DYK? nomination of mine?--Template:Did you know nominations/Historical polling for U.S. Presidential elections. If not, that's okay, but for some reason it has been several days now and no one was able to review this article (it needs a new review). Thank you very much. Futurist110 (talk) 01:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

GA reviews
I was just reviewing the WP:GAN page, and noticed you have several articles nominated. I'm not sure about the propriety of proposing a quid pro quo, but...well, that's what I'm doing. I was one of the editors involved in building the page Chen Guangcheng, which was nearing the end of its GA review when our reviewer mysteriously (and somewhat disconcertingly) disappeared. That was a month ago. I'm wondering if you might have time to pick up where he left off. I would gladly review an article on Polish history. Let me know if you're interested (and no worries if you're not). Homunculus (duihua) 05:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Let me know if there's one in particular you'd like to have reviewed. Homunculus (duihua) 18:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Officialese
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Nomination of Interface: a journal for and about social movements for deletion
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Clarification
Can you clarify if you have any connection to the topic of Interface: a journal for and about social movements, and Laurence Cox. Google suggests yes. IRWolfie- (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Online Ambassador Inquiry
Hello Piotrus. I'm the instructor for a section of students at Ball State University in Indiana USA who are beginning a collaborative research project on Wikipedia for our Introduction to Digital Literacies class. I've been teaching with WP since Spring 2011; from my user page you can see a few example projects highlighted. We are currently in need of an online ambassador to advise several class groups on selecting topics and putting articles together: this means there will be four or five topics for an ambassador to assist with. Might you be interested in helping us? You can see the project timeline in my user area project subpage.

I have gone through the appropriate channels and application documents with the Wikimedia folks in charge of education programs, but have not heard back in nearly two weeks (I've emailed Jamie Mathewson twice). But time is getting short and we must begin—thus I'm taking the liberty of contacting potential ambassadors directly. Thanks for your consideration and good luck with your projects! –Webster Newbold (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Piotrus. If I can't find other another ambassador for my second section I'll look you up again. Best,Webster Newbold (talk) 20:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Note
Nice citation work as to the Nazism and Nazi Germany articles. Not an easy task. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 19:06, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Apology
Sorry about the post I wrote you in the Tadeusz Kosciuszko page. I wrote it when I waas tired so I didn't notice it wasn't you who wrote the post, but it's not really an excuse. I felt offended because the guy said Belarusians didn't exist then, and he also said Koscuiszko didn't consider himsellf Belarusian or spoke Belarusian (which is a lie because he said he isa Litvin, which means Belarusian, and he wrote his parents in Belarusian). I'm half Belarusian (and half Polish) and Kosciuszko is kind of a hero for me so hearing those stuff offended me, but again, there is no excuse while you should be told that you don't know this or that because you weren't even the one who wrote that comment. Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 17:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for IRevolution: Online Warriors of the Arab Spring
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DYK for 1999 F-117A shoot-down
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Reliable Source Help
Thank you for your advice and concern about the reliability of the sources on the Ithaca Bakery article.. We have recently contacted the owner of the company, who -for the history section- provided us with information in the form of Word Documents of speeches he has given in the past. We don't plan on including the information word for word, since we don't want the page to be promotional, but there is valuable historical information included which we would like to use. However, we aren't sure how to go about citing this document - do you have any advice/suggestions? Tpn22 (talk) 17:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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How to avoid content deletion
Hi, I'm part of Prof. Leshed's class at Cornell University. My group was just wondering if you have any tips to avoid content deletion after submitting additions to our article. We're editing the Brick Lane Market page. Heres a link to our talk page User talk:D4n2elle/BrickLaneMarket. Thanks! Joey236 (talk) 21:45, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the assistance! We should be about ready to submit the article tomorrow, but you can see what we have so far on our talk page (link above). Joey236 (talk) 22:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Social engagement
Yngvadottir (talk) 00:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for the help on the Brick Lane Market/Truman Markets page. I'll be sure to take out the "Introduction" header when the page is published! D4n2elle (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Request for Observer Feedback also from Cornell University Comm3460 Class
Hello, we are also a group from Professor Leshed's course and we are working on an article about Incentive-Centered Design. We have moved the contents of our article to the actual Wikipedia page for the topic. Could you please take a look at our article and provide your endorsement so it does not get nominated for rapid deletion? Thank you! Rr442 (talk) 03:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Professor Leshed introduced our class to your User page as our Online Ambassador to our Wikipedia projects. I am expanding the Cornell Big Red wrestling article that already exists on Wikipedia. We have found many sources, mostly from Cornell but also from major newspapers that discuss the History, Notable Alumni, and other information regarding Cornell wrestling that will greatly add to the existing page. Could you please look at our page and the including Talk that has the discussions on it and provide any feedback before we submit our changes to the actual page? Thank you! User:mvr24/Cornell Big Red Wrestling Mvr24 (talk) 17:38, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

London Victory Celebrations of 1946
Hi Piotrus. I restored the improvements you made at London Victory Celebrations of 1946. The page bans do seem draconian, but Sandstein probably meant well when he imposed them. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:46, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Appealing the page ban for yourself seems like a good idea—you hadn't edited the page since 2007 and weren't part of the 2010 dispute. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks good. You probably ought to notify Sandstein as a courtesy. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Cornell University Assignment - Comm 3460
Hello!

We are working under Prof. Leshed's Online Community class. She asks us to reach out to you to see the development of our page. If you could be so kind to take a quick look at it and offer your comments, we'll be extremely appreciative. --JP Comm (talk) 02:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jfn41791/WomensOversizedFashionintheUnitedStates#The_1990s

Hello!

My professor, Professor Leshed, has given my class your username for assistance with our group project. A group of fellow students and I are looking to create a page about Employee Resource Groups for our assignment. We have some discussion so far on User talk:Tpr37/proposal. We were wondering if there was a specific person we could contact about help with editing/discussion/keeping the page up once its posted. Do you have any advice or suggestions? Thank you so much!

Cu mn354 (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)


 * To keep the topic up, you may wish to expand on User_talk:Tpr37/proposal to show why the topic is noteworthy. See the general requirements at WP:GNG. IRWolfie- (talk) 09:09, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Good idea, I copied it to the students' draft discussion page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 19:00, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the suggestions! Cu mn354 (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * We have posted our article Employee Resource Groups. We would love if you could take a look at it for verification purposes! Thank you so much for all of your help. Cu mn354 (talk) 17:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Online Communities
Hi Piotr. Most of these articles are looking quite nice. Could you have a look at File:CTB Logo.jpg, though. It will probably be moved back from Commons to Wikipedia and tagged as fair use. Cheers, —Ruud 19:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * And the images on Employee resource groups seem to have come straight from Google Images... —Ruud 19:27, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Copyright law of South Korea
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Survey pilot?
Hi Piotr, Might you be interested and willing to help pilot a survey by a colleague at Syracuse University on the motivation of contributors to Wikipedia? Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. Yes, the request is to take the survey (I took it myself last night). It is available at: https://survey.ischool.syr.edu/TakeSurvey.aspx?SurveyID=88M39mm. There's a place at the end for comments/ feedback to the survey team. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

GA reassessments
Hi Piotrus. I notice you have a few reassessments open. I thought I would remind you of them in case you have forgotten, they seem to have been open for a while. They are Talk:Kiev Offensive (1920)/GA1 and Talk:Vilnius Castle Complex/GA2. Regards and thank you for doing quality control on our Good articles. AIR corn (talk) 03:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Definately delist Vilnius Castle Complex, an article cannot be good with that many cn tags. Personally I would remove all but the most blatant (i.e those with controversial or likely to be challenged statements) and add a refimprove as it is a bit overkill, although that has nothing to do with GAR. Same goes with the Kiev offensive although it doesn't appear as bad at first glance. Basically all you need to do is write Delist on the review somewhere, then remove the link to the reassessment from the talk page and update the article history template. It has been long enough now that no one is likely to fix it anytime soon, especially if the main editors, wikiprojects have been notified. Let me know if you need a hand with any of the technical stuff. AIR corn (talk) 06:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a few little fixs, , and . AIR corn  (talk) 22:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for World War II looting of Poland
Yngvadottir (talk) 16:04, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Ursuline Academy
Thanks for the investigation! I asked you pretty much immediately after the place received National Register designation, and it hadn't yet been added to our list. I had no clue that it was already PHLF-designated, so I didn't know that we already had the image. Nyttend (talk) 17:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Dhimitër Mborja
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DYK reviews
Piotrus, were you planning to come back to any of these reviews that you initiated, or should we look for new people to finish them off?


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Please let me know here what your plans are. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:25, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


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Charles Johnson Pharazyn DYK
Thanks for the review. The Charles Johnson Pharazyn DYK needs the formal tick mark, though.  Schwede 66  18:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing a STUB-CLASS rating, and changing a LOW-IMPORTANCE RATING, for PESA SA article.
Hi, Piotrus!

I have two easy questions for you, relating to the article PESA SA, where I just posted a greatly expanded and re-written article - essentially, a totally new article: QUESTION (1) How does one change a STUB-CLASS rating? (The former article was indeed STUB-CLASS, almost nothing; my new article is almost too detailed. My new article is mainly a translation of the Polish Wikipedia article Pojazdy Szynowe PESA Bydgoszcz, plus an expanded end section. Not just about railways, the Polish and new English articles touch on Polish history and politics since 1851). The new article is definitely not STUB-CLASS. Looking into the Wikipedia 'Manual of Style,' I couldn't even find a definition of 'Template' - it talked about doing things with templates, rather unclearly, without telling you what a template is. As far as I can tell, a template is something involving text placed between curly brackets:. So, in PESA SA I deleted a line near the end saying, and that message no longer appears at the end of the article. But I don't think this is the proper solution.

QUESTION (2) Who changes an IMPORTANCE rating? PESA is now the largest rail equipment maker in Poland, and looking at comparable firms, the article MTU Friedrichshafen about a comparable-size firm in Germany is rated MID-IMPORTANCE, while the article on the largest German maker Bombardier Transportation is rated HIGH-IMPORTANCE. Thus PESA SA should be at least MID-IMPORTANCE. Explanatory Note, why I upgraded the article: on September 19, 2012, PESA signed a contract worth up to $1.5 billion with Deutsche Bahn - an enormous contract, with the very fussy Germans who usually buy only from German firms. On September 19, TRAFFIC STATISTICS for the English article PESA SA jumped from normally about 50 up to 555, and on Polish Wikipedia TRAFFIC STATISTICS for 'Pojazdy szynowe PESA..' jumped from 200, up to 1169.Prospero10 (talk) 19:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: question
Piotr, what exactly would you like me to do at Template:Did you know nominations/The ScareHouse? Propose a new ALT hook? Poeticbent talk 17:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Brzesc Litewski i Okolice
Drogi Panie Piotrusiu, Dotarlem do Pana adresu patrzac na to, skad pojawily sie w Wikipedii wiadomosci o sowiecko-niemieckiej defiladzie w Brzesciu Litewskim. Wyglada na to, ze ma Pan wiecej ode mnie czasu i zainteresowania aby zajmowac sie takimi rzeczami. Prosze zatem aby zwrocil Pan uwage na to, co ten artykul mowi o relacji miedzy polskim wojskiem a Armia Czerwona gdy wkroczyla w polskie granice. Polscy zolnierze (tak naprawde, oficerowie) dostali jasny rozkaz od swojego Wodza Naczelnego: "z Sowietami nie walczyc" [tymi slowy, nie pamietam daty i numeru rozkazu, ale jestem pewien tresci, i doslownego brzmienia: "z Sowietami nie walczyc"]. Ja jestem daleko pod kazdym wzgledem (miedzy innymi dlatego ze mieszkam bardzo daleko od Warszawy), ale skoro Pan jest --jak sie wydaje-- blizej, to sugeruje zeby spojrzal Pan uwaznie na to, co w Wikipedii mozna o tym przeczytac i zredagowal w tym i wszystkich innych haslach Wikipedii. Zdroweczko, Jaroslaw

O co tez tu chodzi z owymi czterema tyldami? Ale skoro trzeba, to podpisze czterema tyldami. Grzdacz (talk) 00:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Polish-American vote
I have no idea how to put this into the DYK page. I will keep adding info, but if you can help me or post it on, I give you all the permission and best wishes to go ahead.--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 01:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * if you could, I have a recommended line:

Did you know... ...that in 1944, FDR made a pledge in Chicago one week before the presidential elections to uphold the Atlantic Charter relating to Poland--and after he won over 90% of the Polish-American vote, he gave in to Joseph Stalin and allowed Poland to be taken into Soviet rule after World War II.

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DYK for Onufry Zagłoba
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polskie PD
Dzięki za zaproszenie do współredagowania tego nader dla polskich wikipedystów ważnego elementu wiki-commonsowego puzzla.

Bardzo jednak żałuję, ale po pierwsze nie dysponuję ani dostatecznie precyzyjną wiedzą prawniczą, ani dostatecznie obszerną bibliografią w zakresie prawa autorskiego (polskiego i amerykańskiego) - bo oba trzeba brać pod uwagę, nie mówiąc o prawie byłych naszych zaborców - by poczuwać się do prawa do odpowiedzialnego zabierania głosu. Po stronach i podstronach Wikimedia Commons przewijają się całe tabuny samozwańczych znawców i pseudospecjalistów, którzy najczęściej robią mniej odpornym uczestnikom projektu wodę z mózgu swoimi własnymi definicjami (jeden z moich nieżyjących znajomych takie dodawane "od siebie" określenia i sformułowania, bądź interpretacje,miał zwyczaj nazywać smakowitym słowem odsiebięciny). Widziałem Twoje starcie z jednym z tych młodych (?) gniewnych sprzed paru dni, zresztą to ono najpewniej stało się jedną z przyczyn podjęcia się przez Ciebie próby uporządkowania tego tematu.

Ja nie chcę i nie umiem się do grupy "gniewnych" ani "specjalistów" zaliczać (młody zaś już od dawna nie jestem), więc pozwolę sobie pozostać tylko skromnym obserwatorem. Swoje uprawnienia admińskie na commons trzymam w dolnej szufladzie, rzadko ją otwierając, najczęściej w okolicznościach nie budzących wątpliwości.

Na to wszystko nakłada się jeszcze brak dostatecznej zdolności porozumiewania się po angielsku (zwłaszcza w zawiłej prawniczej nomenklaturze), co przekłada się oczywiście na brak pewności siebie w wypowiadaniu się w tym języku i prowadzeniu polemik.

Pozdrawiam serdecznie Julo (talk) 17:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Map ideas
At WikiProject Poland, could you get someone to make a map of the proposals in the Treaty of Marienburg and the Treaty of Radnot ? The latter is an especially interesting "what if" of history - it would have been a 17th century partition of Poland between Sweden, Brandenburg, Transylvania, Lithuania and Ukraine. Afaik no such map exists, anywhere. This is what WP is for. TIA am running away back into semi-retirement now! -Chumchum7 (talk) 18:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Stanislaw Zulkiewski GA
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Tadeusz Kościuszko revert war
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 * I might have to do that if he continues. Thank you :-) Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Copyright law of Panama
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Chinese bronzes
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Advert tag?
Hi,

You have tagged Spencer Stuart with an "advert" wiki-tag? Can you please explain why? Ottawahitech (talk) 19:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

New picture of Ernest Pike
Hi Piotrus, I have found a new and much better picture of the tenor Ernest Pike that shows a full portrait of him. This picture has been scanned from an early HMV record cover dating from about 1908. We must presume that the original copyright holder must have been HMV or its predecessor the Gramophone & Typewriter company, but there is no author on the photo. So in the UK - with an unknown author I presume that it is now out of copyright as it is over 70 years since publication. In the U.S it will be out of copyright anyway as it was published before Jan 1 1923. In fact it should be out of copyright everywhere as it was published more than 100 years ago. I have tried to upload this, but the upload wizard is not working for me. I have tried 2 computers. Is there a problem with uploads at the moment or can you help/advise me? Richard J Myers (talk) 14:42, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

--- The problem is that the "local upload" is not working - it connects then says it is uploading, then never completes the upload. The upload wizard talk shows that others have the same issue.

So I have tried the wiki commons upload which does work - but does not have any settings for UK copyright!. nor is there anywhere to set the PD-UK-unknown. I tried putting it in a licensse field and it will not accept it. So I don't know what to do. Either:- 1. The local (US and UK) wizard needs to be be fixed or/ 2. Can you explain how I upload UK pictures to the Wiki Commons which appears to be for US pictures only or do I assume that if it is out of copyright in the UK that it is also out of copyright in the US.

Richard J Myers (talk) 17:48, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, Its all sorted - the uploads were working all along, but the uploader did not say when the upload was complete. Also - I coudn't find the files uploaded because the file name given by the uploader was what I thought was the full length description string! So the file names are quite long but this is no bad thing - I have found them at least. I now know (with help from the forum) that I can check all the files I have downloaded from a user contributions page or a file list page. Finally, when I release the new article, if I let you know when - could I ask you to check it to make sure it is OK - will probably be in 1 or 2 days time? Thanks for your help. Richard J Myers (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, The potential new picture (which has been scanned by me) for the revised Ernest Pike article is: "The tenor Ernest Pike standing in front of a Sheraton gramophone.jpg" This picture would have appeared in about 1908 on record covers for the Zonophone/HMV grand opera series of records which Pike sang on. The photographer is unknown and it would have been first published in the UK probably in around 1907. So the question is whether HMV can still claim any copyright as a company? You should be able to accesss the uploaded photo (not yet added to the article). I would appreciate it if you could review whether I can add this to the article without any issues and if necessary amend the copyright info attached to it. The last Pike photo I uploaded caused a lively discussion - I would prefer it if this one was more peaceful! I do think this is an excellent photo of him which is entirely relevant to the article as very few pictures of him exist at all and the photo on the existing article is a very poor picture of him. Thanks in advance for your help. 208.85.2.68 (talk) 14:35, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Richard, is that you? If it is, as I said before, this is PD, use the templates I linked on your talk, and of course add the above info about the source to the description of the picture. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 17:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi - Yes sorry it was me and I didn't sign. A link to the photo I have uploaded is given below. Can I ask you to check if the licence looks OK for this. If not - how do I add the licence commons:Template:PD-UK-unknown now to this picture?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ernest_Pike_standing_by_a_Sheraton_gramophone.jpg

Richard J Myers (talk) 17:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, I've managed to add the UK licence now as you suggested. Thanks.

Richard J Myers (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Piotrus, And I have now published a completely revised and enalrged version of this article with more detail and better inline citations - proper lead parapgraph etc. What would I have to do to make this a "Good" article now?

Best regards Richard J Myers (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for the advice - I will look into these things. I have now added the old picture back into the operatic recordingd section. I have already uploaded a better resolution version of this and will replace the picture with this when I have attached relevant licensing info.

Regards Richard J Myers (talk) 22:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of U 47 – Kapitänleutnant Prien
I beleive to have addressed your concerns. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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Multiple edits on Ernest Pike
Hi Piotrus,

I have to ask - why do so many edits have to be made to articles that I have written? Wikipedia is full of badly written articles with no proper references and no-one seems to do anything about these. Let's look, for example at the: Peter Dawson (bass-baritone) article. This has no inline citations at all and few proper references at the end of the article and Peter Dawson is more important than Pike. Dawson is not even tagged as a problem article - and it should be. Yet when I write a good well-referenced article in clear English and put in decent references - they have to be taken out. Why do not all the people who have to make so many edits to my one article focus on articles like Peter Dawson, Stanley Kirkby etc. instead?

Yours frustrated Richard J Myers (talk) 09:28, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I know you must be busy - but I would like to be able to sort this out - thanks -- Richard J Myers (talk) 16:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Piotrus,

Thanks for reply. I will accept your answer that it is not because there is a serious issue with it. With regard to archiving the my talk page - I had no idea that there was a way of doing this other than occasional manual deletion of expired topics. -- Richard J Myers (talk) 16:34, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Piotrus, in some of the paragraphs, the same ref was repeated over and over, when the whole paragraph was referenced to the same, or a couple of, references. So, we don't need to keep restating the same ref.  We can see, for example, that in the first paragraph under "Operatic recordings", all of the references are to one source.  The paragraph had the ref six times in a row, and I have reduced it to four times, which is still overkill.  As you noted to Richard, we are trying to help him.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:00, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message. You cannot be saying that you think this ref must be repeated SIX times in the same short paragraph, which has no other refs.  Surely four times is enough.  The two consecutive sentences will not be split, because they both refer to the same recording.  Please take a closer look at the text.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Wrocław
Polish city of Wroclaw comes to terms with its German past

http://news.yahoo.com/polish-city-wroclaw-comes-terms-german-past-174953190.html

Isn't it amazing that it's taken nearly 70 years for this (largely) untold story to come 'out' in mainstream Western media?

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DYK nomination of Sebastiano Montelupi
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The ScareHouse
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Sejmik
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 * I thought about the article structure as I reviewed it. I moved a few sentences around to improve the flow (I hope). I think the structure is probably fine the way it is, unless you want to break the history section into subsections. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:25, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
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World Court Page
Hi! I'll send you an email in case I didn't do this right, but hopefully you get this message. I think my page (World Courts of Women) is ready to go, at least for a first draft. I'll add more to it once it's up. Can you take a look and make sure it's okay? And let me know how to make it an actual page? Then I can do the nomination thing if you think it qualifies for that. Thank you for all of your help!

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I didn't send an email once I saw you had replied to my message. Sorry for the email from Jackie - she is anxious to get this posted and thinks I have been taking too long. Fortunately, I think it should be ready to go now. She's not as interested in nominating it for the main page, so if that doesn't happen, it's okay. I just want to get it posted.

I don't have an option to move it. Can you move it, or do I need to submit it for review? Thanks!

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DYKs
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DYK for Berlin Victory Parade of 1945
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DYK for New York City Victory Parade of 1946
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Casualties at Kircholm
What's your opinion on the casualties suffered at Kircholm I stated at the Talkpage, as I see you wandered through there? Imonoz (talk) 17:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012
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I'm not happy with Flight and expulsion of Poles from the USSR
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DYK for Sebastiano Montelupi
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DYK nomination of Al Jazeera effect
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Polish-American vote
Hi! the page is growing, and I would like people on the Polish-speaking portal of Wikipedia to know about it. How can a translation request for Polish-American vote be made?--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 22:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen
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Roberto Bandinelli
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I'm back
So what' the problem with the one article? Ajh1492 (talk) 20:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for joining WikiProject Freedom of speech! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: your earlier stub
Just to let you know, I do not wish, nor intend to DYK this architectural structure, because of the sorry state it is in after a court battle. Nothing to be particularly proud of I guess. Poeticbent <span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk 19:43, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

CUE logo
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DYK for Poland–Spain relations
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DYK for Al Jazeera effect
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DYK for Sejm of the Grand Duchy of Posen
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Stefan Czarniecki
I have started the review for Stefan Czarniecki. Albacore (talk) 15:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Polish American vote, Polish American map.jpg
Hey Piotrus, hope all is well. I've been having some power shorts here at home, so hopefully this hurricane will subside soon.

I know we talked last about translating the page, and I am actually very excited about the page's development. It looks good and it is growing better everyday. I'm especially happy with a map I created, File:Polish America map.jpg which makes the Polish-American page look and more engaging. Between the two, I think we'll have no trouble baiting a polish-speaking wikipedian into translating some info. It certainly doesn't have to be the whole thing, but between the Poland portal and the Polish wikipedia, I think we can get someone interested. What do you think?--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 05:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know the portals, I have no idea how to manuveur that or who to talk to to make an impact. Basically, since I speak no Polish, think of yourself as my only real link to the Polish wikipedia at present.--Votevotevote2012 (talk) 05:40, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

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ZoSia Karbowiak Biography
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Natural disasters DYKnom
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WikiCup 2012 October newsletter
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DYK for Conflict (process)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualitative_research - External Links
Thanks for the welcome Piotrus! I saw the revert you made, but I am not sure why it was made. As I am new I would like to know, so that I do not make the same mistakes again. I read the guidelines for what types of external links should be avoided, but did not think my link fell under any of those categories. Will await your reply, thanks!

Tami Allen (talk) 00:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Zosia Karbowiak and barnstar
I see you've commented on the AfD discussion for Zosia Karbowiak. Was your reply a comment or a !vote? It isn't particularly clear if it's a comment or a !vote. Can you please clarify that on the discussion page? Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and since it appears you are doing quite well in DYKs, I would like to award you this barnstar:

re: External Links
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DYK for Why Die for Danzig?
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GA review for Scipione Piattoli
Hello Piotrus. I just completed a detailed GA review Scipione Piattoli for GA status. The article was fun to read and I learned a lot from it! The review page is here. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 03:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I just promoted the article to GA status, one more flower to add to your opulent boutonnière. Keep up the good work! Madalibi (talk) 01:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome. If you have time and you are interested, you are also welcome to take a quick look at Shunzhi Emperor of China, an article I just submitted for featured article (my first FAC). It would be wonderful to receive your comments on any single section, just to see if the prose makes sense to readers who may not know much about Chinese history, though I cannot presume that this is your case, of course. Anyway, the review page is here. It was nice being in touch about the Piattoli review, which taught me a lot about Polish history. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 09:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your review. I think I just finished addressing your concerns. Let me know what you think! Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 06:48, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hello! I've reviewed both of the articles at Template:Did you know nominations/Sejm of the Estates. Great work on the articles. The first one is good to go, but there is a minor issue with the second article. Cheers,-- xanchester  (t)  17:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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Fumanekile Gqiba
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DYK for Sejm of the Estates
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The contents of article on Tadeusz Kościuszko.
Hello. Please be advised that the information, which continues to be inserted by Belarusian users in the said article, appears incorrect. I wanted to highlight same, but the changes were reverted only before applying protection. I've given my response & rationale in the Talk section on the page of user "Danton's Jacobin". As I'm not a registered user, I'd be obliged for your assistance in getting a neutral contents of that article. Thank you. 93.107.76.37 (talk) 19:58, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

The contents of article on Sonel.
Yellow Pages? OK, but can somebody show me Yellow Pages, where is company's history etc.? Or show me difference beetween the side about Sonel and the side about Megger or Fluke - for me, it's discrimination, that is the EN wikipedia's place for the British and US Companies, and there is no place for Polish company. </b>(jagokogo) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagokogo (talk • contribs) 07:55, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Sucrose gap
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Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display
You lost me on your concern. The lead to the article reads "The Lunar basalt 70017 is a moon rock gathered in 1972 by astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt on the Apollo 17 mission near their Apollo lunar lander from the valley of Taurus-Littrow on the moon." Can you be more specific or reword your concern. I'll try to fix, if I knew what the problem is.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 23:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

What I mean is that this article should use the alt (1.1 gram) name in the lead, and that there should be a reference to at least one source that uses this term to refer to this rock. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 00:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

The lead to the article now reads "The Lunar basalt 70017 is a moon rock gathered in 1972 by astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt on the Apollo 17 mission near their Apollo lunar lander from the valley of Taurus-Littrow on the moon and divided into 1.1 gram pieces." The DYK article Lunar basalt 70017 is supported by sources #1, #2, #3. Reference #2 of "Where are the Moon Rocks" says '' The Apollo 17 gift rocks are slightly larger and weigh about 1.1 grams. '' --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:35, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

The hook has been changed to show Lunar basalt 70017. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Would it appropriate for you to remove now Please add alt name (used here) to the lead, reference it as the alt name, and ping me again for a re-review. Thanks!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Would you like to Review Apollo 11 lunar sample display also? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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I need you help and advice. My friend ask me for support. On the article 'Silesia' somebody, maybe even he created table expressing history of the land. I think it is good - very informative. There a two editors, Rsloch - it seems to me does not like the clear history in table since have an German nationalistic inclination. The table is nothing more than simplification and clarification of the text, but can be dislike by some who think Germans has any rights to this region. Second person is Dominus Vobisdu, who also has somewhat strange POV, probably only pretending to be an American. I do not think the table is any controversial, since the text is not contradicted - rather clarified. Could help?. I could start logical discussion, but I am not specializing in the Silesia subject, and the two people react very agresyvely. It does not promise resonable responds funded on logic.--Burham (talk) 19:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I did not found any prohibitions or "bad style" indication regarding tables. Could enlighten me? Any way thank you for your writings.--Burham (talk) 18:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, I found one, but probably it is not what you would expect. It is in lead to article 'Table' :). But I will search further. Take for consideration the word 'pervasive' in this article. I learn to use table in my works also very early, since they are 'pervasive'. In complicated info it make subject clear and easy to remember. --Burham (talk) 22:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I will not copy results of my search regarding table in leads. It is TOO BIG. I ask you to read the results on my talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Burham#re:_Silesia--Burham (talk) 04:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Thus I understand that, although 1) there is no prohibitions regarding using tables in lead, 2) I show you that there exists many table types in lead, You figure out it is "common sense" not to use table in lead. Well I do not understand the so call "common sense". Any way thank you for exchange opinions. I will do what I consider the best for the reader - it mean clarifies the true, and expose blur demands and magnification nationalistic believes.--Burham (talk) 00:12, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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Nice editing on Tadeusz Kościuszko
Great job on the early life section, it looks amazing now! Now I see what they mean when they say when they took about Encyclopedia standards :-) I looked on how you edited the references to learn how to do it right! Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 17:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK submission including a Gibraltar-related article
Piotrus, I wanted to let you know that, as your submission involves the island of Gibraltar, it will have to go into the special Gibraltar area and received two reviews along with all the other hooks about the island. I'll be moving it shortly. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:32, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Leonid Raikhman
I rescued this from speedy A7. On the basis of my very elementary knowledge of Russian, he's both interesting and important, one of the Soviet Jews in the KGB who foolishly thought Stalin wouldn't turn on them. The Polish seems by far the better documented article, & I do not know Polish. Do you think you'd have time to work on it? DGG ( talk ) 04:46, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Arbitrary formatting changes
Please stop arbitrarily changing the formatting of references in articles. You've cited Citing sources on quite a few talk pages such as at Talk:United States, so I don't think I need to point out that it says that "articles should not undergo large scale conversion between formats without consensus to do so". Please stop trying to change the formatting without a consensus to do so. You've done this on a few dozen articles and have been reverted by multiple editors, please get a consensus before you try to do this on other articles. Thank you. - SudoGhost 00:58, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

You cannot change the formatting like you're doing, per Citing sources, the very thing you've been citing as cause to do it in the first place. If you continue to do so, it will be reverted, as it has been by multiple editors every time you do it. Every time you've started a discussion requesting a consensus to change the reference formatting, nobody has agreed with you. That doesn't mean just stop discussing and do it anyways. Drmies made a suggestion about starting a discussion in a centralized location; I think that's a good idea, and if there's a consensus for what you're doing then I won't blink an eye at it, but until then there's plenty of discussions pointing out why you shouldn't be making those edits, and the very guideline you're citing says not to do it as well. You've made bold edits and they've been reverted, and your guideline says not to do it in the first place unless there's a consensus; I think now would be a great time to discuss it somewhere centralized instead of keeping at it. I understand that you put work into changing the articles like this, but for the sake of everyone not wasting effort I think now it needs to be discussed since it's known that this is a disputed action. - SudoGhost 04:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Casimir Pulaski
Looking at Casimir Pulaski, it looks like all the other references are in the LDR format and had been since you changed it back in May, and that your change today was bringing others references added since then in line with this. Since it was changed months ago and the article has been worked on significantly since then it doesn't make sense change it back to the pre-LDR format. However, in the future please discuss it and get a consensus before making this change on any future articles. If that's what the consensus wants, I have absolutely no objections, but all I'm asking is that you follow the guideline you're citing, that's all. I can't revert my own edit since someone else edited it after that, and I don't want to mess up their edits too, so I don't know how you want to handle that, but I can mess with it and try to revert my edit, or if you want to do it I'm not going to undo it, just let me know if I need to undo it manually or something. - SudoGhost 05:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
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Kościuszko
Hi :-) That sounds good actually! I like what you suggested. The only thing is, I think the term Lithuanian should redirect to Lithuania and not to Lithuanians because when you look at his family tree you can see he actually probably didn't have any Lithuanian origins, as in the Baltic ethnicity. Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 18:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I edited some things in the Early Life section. Do you think how it looks now it's good enough? Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 18:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It makes sense, but I think we can actually use Belarusian nobility, because that's what actualy feets his definition. When you read it it fits perfect his family! I think Ruthenian origin is the only origin he had as far as we know (though I would not be surprised if he had a bit of Polish blood as well. It someone would write a work about his family tree that would be really interesting), but I'm pretty sure he didn't have Lithuanian roots. The reason is because in the Great Duchy Belarusians (or Ruthenians) were the majority, the offical language Ruthenian. Most of the ruling families in Lithuania came from Ruthenian origin (Chodkiewicz family, Sapieha family), so the Ruthenians didn't see the need to marry Lithuanians due to the fact they would not gain anything from that (it was different in the Commonwealth, where Ruthenian and Lithuanian noble families wanted to mix with Polish families due to the fact the Polish families had more prestige and power). Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

That's quite true what you said, it needs work, but I still think it fits more, for the reason that the article Ruthenian nobility talks about all the Ruthenian nobility from the Great Duchy of Lithuania, which means Belarusian and Ukrainain. The article Belarusian nobility is more specific the geographic sense. What it talks about is the Ruthenian nobility which lived in Belarus: "Noble people on Belarusian lands (Belarusian: шляхта, szlachta) were usually of Slavic (Ruthenian) origin in the east or of Baltic (Lithuanian in historical context, Litvin) origin in the west of the lands of what is now Belarus.", which shows they are sensitive to the idea that back then those were Ruthenians living in Belarus (though those Ruthenians are now called Belarusian).

Though to be honest, I'm quite flexible about this issue because I think it's the same thing so whatever is used is fine :-) I don't think any ethnic group has so much problems with defenition like the Belarusians. After those lands were taken by the Great Duchy the Ukrainans and Belarusians were one group called Ruthenians, then they became Litvins, then Russia changed it to Belarusians, and the way they see themselves changed over the years. Most Belarusians today see Russia as the natural friend, but originaly they were actualy literally running the Great Duchy in the Lithuania and were an integrated part of the Commonwealth. Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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Place of Birth
Hi :-) Hope you are well! The funny part is, even in the Russian Wikipedia they have the Polish name is brackets, and in the Belarusian Wikipedia they don’t even have an article about this place. This place was a folwark near the town of Kosava. I found in some official websites in English from Belarus writing the area name as Merechevschina, the problem is, it’s actually how they pronounce it in Russian. The way to pronounce it in Belarusian would be Merachoushina, but when I write it like that on Wikipedia we get no results so I think we should take the Russian one due to the fact it’s the name even the Belarusians use (though I have to say, it’s irritating to think Belarusians say it like that because Belarusian was oppressed). Danton&#39;s Jacobin (talk) 12:07, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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I have a reason why i'm responding only here (where we can continue). The [http://toolserver.org/~magnus/joanjoc/sugart.php? tool is here]. It isn't the most perfect tool for searching missing articles, but at least for me it is good enough. But sometimes it doesn't work with some Wikipedia or category and it maybe won't get data from big cats (like ). So enjoy! -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 19:36, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


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WRN
Regarding : March would indeed have been a bit further back than our usual scope, but if it has only just been published, why not. Perhaps it can even be combined with the coverage of his other paper. BTW, your other texts are now at the draft page, thanks! Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 20:53, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

1919-1921 Sejm
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DYK for Produsage
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Credit for photograph
Hello, My name is Hannah, and I am a student worker at the Joseph Moore Museum at Earlham College in Richmond Indiana. I am working on a display on honey bee dance language for the museum, and would like to use your photograph "Red flower alongside a road." What name should I attribute the photograph to? I would be happy to send you a copy of the finished product if you would be interested in seeing it. Thanks! Hannah Rose hbrose12@earlham.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.28.32.114 (talk) 19:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
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Magnates
I know. I am editing in 10-minute chunks. While there is tons of books on the subject, I think I let the experts do this. My goal was to disambig "magnate". By the way, among nearly thousand links to magnate I bet 90% are about Polsih ones. Is it worth of effort to make page moves? Staszek Lem (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. not to say that with my skills it is better to write about obscure subjects, such as Złota Tarka. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Lux Veritatis
Napisałem mały stubik o fundacji, ale chyba wiele takich jest na en-wiki. Nie za bardzo rozumiem, dlaczego miałby być usunięty. Nie wiem również, którego z kryteriów Fundacja nie spełnia, ponadto nie wiem, gdzie dyskutować na ten temat i w związku z tym co poprawić. Strony en-wiki linkowały do Fundacji Lux Veritatis zanim powstał ten artykuł, gdyby nie to nigdy do głowy by mi nie przyszło pisać. Ale jak już napisałem, to proszę nie usuwać. Wizikj (talk) 22:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ale ta organizacja nie ma statusu Non-profit. Wizikj (talk) 00:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Spiegelman's use of pigs
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Hi so I've found some more reliable sources for the Prusi Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prusi, and I was wondering I you can help with how to do the citations using the Wikipedia system. Just tell me ho to cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.195.192.15 (talk) 16:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, just letting you know I removed the prod from the above article as it was previously proposed for deletion. Thank you. Rotten regard 18:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your message. Yes, I am a newcomer here, but I checked out all the guidelines before submitting my first pages. I will go through them again, though, since with every edit I see that writing Wikipedia articles is not exactly a piece of cake.

Anyway, I do not really see how the Downtango thing is less notable than, say, GetRight which has an article on Wikipedia. Could you elaborate?

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That was actually a mistake... should have passed on Coverage and Accuracy. Is now fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrigidNinja (talk • contribs) 20:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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thanks for the kind welcome, the creation of my user page, and the guidance and offer of help - much appreciated! I'm currently just doing basic copyediting at the moment, but hope to do something more constructive down the line Jj in sydney (talk) 12:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Reki Kawahara as a notable author?
I do not wish to criticize your actions, but your recent edit to the Accel World page, linking Reki Kawahara with the reason that Kawahara is a notable author seems a bit off to me. Could you please, if it is not too much effort, explain to me as to why you believe that Kawahara is notable? As far as I am aware, he has also written the Sword Art Online Light Novel, but I personally doubt that he is notable enough for that sole reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CuleX (talk • contribs) 13:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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Belarusian nobility
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Siege of Zbarazh
I started reviewing the above article. I find that the hook text is not specifically referenced in the article. The last section could mention the dates. I have done some minor editing.-- Nvvchar . 05:01, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Pytanie
Cześć Piotr, czy mogę się Ciebie poradzić w sprawie artykułu o Polsce na en-Wiki? Napisałem kilka dni temu artykuł na polskiej Wikipedii o pomnikach granic getta ] Jak sądzisz, czy jest on dostatecznie ency i byłby ciekawy dla anglosaskiego czytelnika? Mógłbym go w całości przetłumaczyć na angielski. Zauważyłem, że te pomniki i tablice budzą bardzo duże zainteresowanie osób z Polski i zagranicy, zwłaszcza jeżeli ktoś interesuje się II wojną światową. Natomiast ich lokalizacja, nawet w obrębie jednego upamiętnienia (ludzie dostrzegają tablice, ale przeoczają już żeliwne płyty w chodniku, albo odwrotnie) to czasem małe wyzwanie, i nie wszyscy zdają sobie sprawę, że jest to fragment większego projektu. Z góry dzięki za odpowiedź. Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Ursynowa --Boston999 (talk) 18:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Hej, dzięki. Podeślę Ci link, jak będzie gotowe. 3maj się, --Boston999 (talk) 22:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Withering away of the state
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DYK - Stanislaw Barcewicz
Thanks, Piotr. I'm aware of DYK, and have had a fair few, the last one in June.

One reason I've not been active in DYK since then is the rule that an editor has to earn the right to self-nominate, by first reviewing a certain number of other editors' nominations.

But that rule seems to be no longer in place. Am I right in saying it's no longer a rule? --  Jack of Oz   [Talk]  19:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sikorski's death controversy
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Sam Ficken
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Graphs: thank you & questions
Hi Piotrus, Thanks for the graphs on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology. I have simple questions for each regarding what exactly we are seeing. The questions are on the respective talk pp. of the three graphs. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 15:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


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DYK for Battle of Dubienka
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Dyngus Day
I wonder if you would be interested in collaborating on an article on Dyngus Day? I've made a start at User:Prioryman/Dyngus Day but if there's anything you can add from Polish-language sources that would be much appreciated. Prioryman (talk) 00:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * That should probably be under Śmigus-dyngus. Although it may be the case that "Dyngus Day" is the Polish-American version of the Polish-Polish Smigus-Dyngus day. Also, I'm not sure who this Melton fellah is, but the water-pouring (that's the "smigus" part) is not limited to guys doing it to girls (if anything, it's supposed to be the opposite!) - but generally, the water-pouring is done to anyone who doesn't pay a "ransom" (that's the "dyngus" part, which may be a German connection). Often it's a way for kids to get candy or treats from their parents and relatives. Melton's probably talking about some particular regional variety or something. I'm also pretty sure that there was no Slavic diety named "Dyngus" (definitely not "Dygnus"), although Polish Wikipedia says that some 16th century writer put a "Dyngus" in a "List of Devils from Poland". Volunteer Marek 01:06, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice! I've added a lot more info to the article, so please feel free to take a look and give some feedback if you wish. I've taken out about the bit about the deity, as I've not been able to verify it from other sources. Prioryman (talk) 18:17, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * By the way, it would be helpful if you could check the Polish text I added - you guys use a lot more accented characters than I have on my keyboard. :-) Prioryman (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You missed a single dash, but other than that the Polish text's good. One thing you should be careful with is the poems. I don't have the book by Silverman, but there's some chance that these may be copyrighted, in which case the translations would be copyrighted as well. If these are folk poems/songs and PD then there's no problem. On the other hand, if these are Silverman's translations that could be a copyvio as well (I'm not 100% sure ow it would work in this case). Without seeing the original, the translations make sense. Volunteer Marek 19:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * They're quoted from a 1951 book (the Sula Benet source cited in the article) and yes, they're folk poems. Prioryman (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The thing is, the translation could be copyrighted, even if the original is in public domain. Volunteer Marek 19:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, the translation would be copyrighted. I believe it is the usual thing - the copyright lasts 70 years after the translator's death. Sigh. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * However, if you have the original Polish folk PD text of the poem you could do your own PD translation (or me or Piotrus could do it) and that would not be copyrighted. It's a little silly but that's how it works. It's like if there's some data out there and somebody makes a chart of it and puts it in a book. You can't take the chart from their book and put it in Wikipedia, it's copyrighted. But you can take the underlying data, put it in Excel and make your own chart, and put that in Wikipedia. Same sort of thing. Volunteer Marek 18:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

COOP
Hi Piotrus. I noticed your participation on the COOP project and that you have an impressive number of GA/FA articles. I am trying to adopt the practice of standardizing on GA-quality work where I have a COI and wondered if I might request your services from time to time to provide feedback on articles that I want to bring up to GA, but may not be quite ready yet. CorporateM (Talk) 15:53, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not in article-space yet, but I think this proposed draft is getting close to GA. One of my concerns is that in order to follow DGG's feedback to add a detailed version history, I had to use some iffy sources like conference papers, but they may actually be very appropriate sources for the topic and given what they are used for. I am on the fence about it.


 * The original draft was promotional, so we actually dialed it back to something more neutral. ;-)


 * Of course your welcome to comment on the request for article-space as well as what it still needs to be GA ready if you have an interest in doing so. One thing I want to do better is finding editors that have a genuine interest in the area I'm working on, so it's less of a burden for them to collaborate. CorporateM (Talk) 17:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem. I'm also working on one on a social media management software, but not sure if that's close enough to your area of interest; being on the sociology rather than marketing and technology end of things. CorporateM (Talk) 21:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * This is the social media management software I was referring to. It's hard to avoid promotionalism when the article is a product. I'd welcome any thoughts on what it needs to reach a GA mark if you have time and interest. CorporateM (Talk) 13:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Poverty in South Korea
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DYK for Welfare in South Korea
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Franciszek Lewiński
Hello, I would like to really get hold of the person who added the article below on wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_National_Government_(November_Uprising)

I have noticed that my great grandfather is listed here and his name is a link, but when I click on his name there appears to be no further information on him. I am really interested in finding out more about Franciszek Lewiński and would like to contact the author of this article to see if they can help me in my genealogical enquiry. Franciszek Lewiński was my great grand-father I would be everso greatful if your help would lead me to further information on him.

I thank you very kindly and look forward to hopefully receiving contact details (e.g. email address) for the author.

Thank you Paul Lewinski

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_National_Government_(November_Uprising) > > > Polish National Government (November Uprising) > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > Jump to: navigation, search > Polish National Government of 1831 was a Polish supreme authority during November Uprising against Russian occupation of Poland. It was created by the decree of the Sejm of the Congress Poland on 29 January 1831 to assume the competences of the Polish head of state in the aftermath of another decree - of 25 January - deposing tsar Nicholas I of Russia from the throne of Poland. > > The government concentrated on the issues related to the fight with the Russian Empire. In August the government of prince Adam Jerzy Czartoryski resigned facing loss of support and radicalization among Warsavians and Czartoryski was replaced by Jan Krukowiecki. After capitulation of Warsaw the government was taken over by Bonawentura Niemojowski. After the government went into exile, it passed its powers to general Maciej Rybiński. > > Presidents: > >  a.. prince Adam Czartoryski 30 January-17 August 1831 >  b.. Jan Krukowiecki 17 August-7 September 1831 >  c.. Bonawentura Niemojowski 7 September-25 September 1831 >  d.. general Maciej Rybiński 25 September-9 October 1831 (not a president per se, but a legal successor) > Others: > >  a.. Stanisław Barzykowski >  b.. Alojzy Biernacki >  c.. Aleksander Bniński >  d.. Leon Dembowski >  e.. Kajetan Garbiński >  f.. Antoni Gliszczyński >  g.. Andrzej Horodyski >  h.. Joachim Lelewel >  i.. Franciszek Lewiński >  j.. Gustaw Małachowski >  k.. Teodor Morawski >  l.. Izydor Krasiński >  m.. Teofil Morawski >  n.. Franciszek Morawski >  o.. Wincenty Niemojowski >  p.. Andrzej Plichta >  q.. Wiktor Rembieliński >  r.. Jan Olrych Szaniecki > — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.76.101 (talk) 18:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Paul. Wikipedia articles have many authors. You can see them in the history tab (see Article history) and through this useful tool: . I have just translated some information from the Polish Wikipedia article; you can see who the authors were there in a similar fashion. While Polish Wikipedia has a better coverage of Polish topis, it still does not have an entry for Franciszek Lewiński. You can find some information in books (see ), and your best best may be the corresponding entry from the Polski Słownik Biograficzny (my list at User:Piotrus/List_of_Poles/Krzesinski-Lichtarowicz indicates he has an entry there). If you obtain a scan of his entry and sent it to me, I could try to write up an English bio for him; otherwise I am not sure when I will have an opportunity to obtain it myself (I already have a long to-do list). You could also contact somebody who has access to PSB, such as User:Picus viridis, through note that Wikipedians are not your friendly neighborhood librarians and we don't really fulfill requests other than for people who intend to contribute to Wikipedia (so if you don't intend to write for Wikipedia, I'd suggest you use an interlibrary loan or such to obtain the PSB entry). I hope this helps. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 15:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Virut
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Warsaw Ghetto boundary markers
Cześć Piotr, w nawiązaniu do naszej wcześniejszej rozmowy - skończyłem tłumaczenie tego artykułu. Posłuchaj, czy mógłbym mieć do Ciebie serdeczną prośbę? Mógłbyś zerknąć. Czy według Ciebie wygląda mniej więcej OK? To mój pierwszy taki artykuł na en-Wiki. Z góry serdeczne dzięki za pomoc i wszystkie uwagi--Boston999 (talk) 09:28, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hej, dzięki - opublikowane. Masz rację, ale artykuł jest raczej nietypowy, bo dotyczy zbioru pomników, trudno jest opisać to inaczej. Co do źródeł, to wszystko ma potwierdzenie w 100% w fundamentalnej pracy Engelking i Leociaka o warszawskim getcie i w dołączonych do niej 3 mapach, no i w oryginalnej treści samych tablic, opublikowanych w pozycji bibliografii #2. Cytowanie kilkanaście razy tej książki IMHO nie wyglądałoby zbyt dobrze. Dlatego nie będę zgłaszał do DYI, wielkie dzięki za tę sugestię. Zastanawiam się jeszcze - jeżeli artykuł jest w 95% tłumaczeniem z pl-Wiki, ale to ja jestem jego autorem, to czy powinienem na en-Wiki umieścić template Translated page?--Boston999 (talk) 17:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Joel M. Charon


The article Joel M. Charon has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. -- Patchy1 10:38, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

September Eleven 1683
Hello, I was wondering if you would reconsider this comment; I think it is bitey. Would you mind withdrawing it? I've already messaged the editor to explain WP:NF and WP:GNG. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 20:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sigh. :) I have to say I don't think that tone works either. The IP has not commented since, so I think it is unfair to suggest that the editor's rationale is, "I don't like it." Maybe he/she thinks that these reviews are not enough per WP:NF (which is why I have explained how WP:NF works in conjunction with WP:GNG on the user talk page). To me, the person is basically saying, these sources are not enough sufficient to establish notability, and the reason is unclear. Maybe it's a certain reading of WP:NF, for all we know. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 13:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Michael G. Santos
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Signups are now closed; we have our final 127 contestants for this year's competition. 64 contestants will make it to the next round at the end of February, but we're already seeing strong scoring compared to previous years. currently leads, with 358 points. At this stage in 2012, the leader had 342 points, while in 2011, the leader had 228 points. We also have a large number of scorers when compared with this stage in previous years. was the first competitor to score this year, as he was last year, with a detailed good article review. Some other firsts:
 * was also the first to score for an article, with the good article Hurricane Gordon (2000). Again, this is a repeat of last year!
 * was the first to score for a did you know, with Marquis Flowers.
 * was the first to score for an in the news, with 2013 Houphouët-Boigny stampede.
 * was the first to score for a featured list, with list of Billboard Social 50 number-one artists.
 * was the first to score for a featured picture, with File:Thure de Thulstrup - L. Prang and Co. - Battle of Gettysburg - Restoration by Adam Cuerden.jpg.

Featured articles, portals and topics, as well as good topics, are yet to feature in the competition.

This year, the bonus points system has been reworked, with bonus points on offer for old articles prepared for did you know, and "multiplier" points reworked to become more linear. For details, please see WikiCup/Scoring. There have been some teething problems as the bot has worked its way around the new system, but issues should mostly be ironed out- please report any problems to the WikiCup talk page. Here are some participants worthy of note with regards to the bonus points:


 * was the first to score bonus points, with Portland-class cruiser, a good article.
 * has the highest overall bonus points, as well as the highest scoring article, thanks to his work on Enrico Fermi, now a good article. The biography of such a significant figure to the history of science warrants nearly five times the normal score.
 * claimed bonus points for René Vautier and Nicolas de Fer, articles that did not exist on the English Wikipedia at the start of the year; a first for the WikiCup. The articles were eligible for bonus points because of fact they were both covered on a number of other Wikipedias.

Also, a quick mention of, who may well have already written the oddest article of the WikiCup this year: did you know that the Fucking mayor objected to Fucking Hell on the grounds that there was no Fucking brewery? The gauntlet has been thrown down; can anyone beat it?

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:57, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Cultural conflict
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RE: Peacekeeping maps
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DYK for Magnates of Poland and Lithuania
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The contents of article on Sonel.
OK. Może na dzień dobry, skoro dyskutuje 2 Polaków, proponuję przejść na język polski, choćby dlatego, że nie umkną żadne subtelności.

Co do strony - zwracam uwagę, że ktoś tutaj chce być bardziej chyba papieski od papieża - otrzymuję ostrzeżenia, że artykuł nt. firmy Sonel, stworzony przeze mnie na en.wikipedia.org nie jest poprawnym artykułem, ale informacją (reklamą?) w stylu Yellow Pages.

Nie mogę się z tym zgodzić.

Po pierwsze - treść. W artykule przedstawiłem informację, jakich nie przedstawia się w książkach telefonicznych - historię firmy, produkty dawno wycofane, ale takie, które trwale zakorzeniły się w środowisku osób związanych z energetyką, produkty charakterystyczne oraz to, czego nie widać (linia produkcyjna itp.).

Po drugie - dyskryminacja. Tworząc artykuł wzorowałem się głównie na artykule dotyczącym firmy Megger - moim zdaniem jest on bardziej "Yellow pages" niż mój artykuł, zawiera bowiem, oprócz rozbudowanej (ponad 100 lat istnienia, Sonel jedynie 20) historii choćby takie rzeczy, jak linki do dystrybutorów - podejście zupełnie handlowe.

Po trzecie - demokracja. Zastanówmy się w takim razie, idąc Pana tropem, co jeszcze należałoby usunąć z Wikipedii. Na dzień dobry widzę artykuły dotyczące podobnej branży - na przykład Fluke Corporation, Megger. Dalej - również (wg Pańskiej logiki) bardzo "Yellow Pages" są artykuły na przykład Ford Motor Company, Chrysler, Škoda Auto, Volkswagen... Idąc tym tropem dochodzimy do haseł takich jak Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Lukoil, później Procter & Gamble, docelowo również na naszej liście znajdzie się Disneyland. Każde z wymienionych przeze mnie haseł jest firmą (kompanią, koncernem, korporacją); od firmy przeze mnie opisywanej różnią się wielkością oraz umiejscowieniem - są to firmy międzynarodowe, których centrale mieszczą się w GB, USA...

I tu dochodzimy do sedna sprawy. Najwyraźniej komuś (i to Polakowi!) przeszkadza, żeby w angielskiej (= międzynarodowej) wersji wikipedii znalazły się informacje dotyczące firmy z Polski, która nie zajmuje się produkcją jajek, ale posiada coraz bardziej ugruntowaną pozycję w branży pomiarowo - energetycznej.

Czekam teraz na rzeczowe argumenty z Pana strony - bowiem czasy, kiedy Murzyn (przepraszam - Afroamerykanin) nie mógł wsiąść do autobusu w Alabamie dlatego, bo był czarny, skończyły się kilkadziesiąt lat temu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagokogo (talk • contribs) 5:22 am, Today (UTC−5)