User:Victuallers/Archive4

Hello
Hi

Sorry for the evry late reply to your message. Yes I am new to the site and when I found an earlier message which had a little information on me and nothign recent I decided to update it. Please do advice me on how to proceed. I have a lot of reference material on all that I ahve done. Also i it is wrong or incorrect to edit ones own wiki then let me know.

Regards

RoshanRoshan1970 (talk) 17:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

RE:
Thank Victs :P you just answered the biggest doubt I got- why did Francis Burdett not succeed the Baronetcy! I'll add this into the Foremarke Hall and Sir Francis Burdett, 5th Baronet pages.

So you saw what I wrote in the Talk page? It was quite frustrating to have written something established so clearly only to be ruined by somone who doesn't even know the matter clear enough. :(

And you are right, the photo on the Francis Burdett page seem to look like the portrait found on Franis Burdett (1743), i think it was just that the Francis Burdett was so "factually vandalised" XD that even I got confused....lol

And nice to hear from you after so long ;), can't believe someone did something like that to the article I worked so hard on, although I'm sure he/she was not intentional; so I don't hold any grudges. :)

--WiKID Daryl (talk) 20:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

No i wasn't referring to you of course lol; I was talking about someone who edited the content so that everyone who sees it would get confused; even someone who knows the history like you.

You probably were wrong if you thought the guy in the photo was "Sir Francis" (which I was too :P); as Francis Burdett (1743) hsd two portraits painted for him and the guy in the painting looks identical to the portrait on Francis Burdett (1743).

Actually I thought you were trying to tell me I was wrong about the guy being an older Sir Francis Birdett; but then inceidentally; that got me thinking and now it's obvious it's not Sir Francis but his father in the painting. (I went to Repton Prep myself but had never seen a painting of Sir Francis as such.

And from my experiences of walking past the dozen portraits of Sir Francis I think I'm sure that the person in the painting is not Sir Francis; although I don't rule out the possibility of it being a painting of an older Sir Francis- even though It just doesn't look like him.

--WiKID Daryl (talk) 21:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Foremark
The present state of Foremark is a pig's ear. Sections are badly out of time sequence. Tempted to revert, but I'm sure you'ld rather tidy in yout own way. Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 22:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I was the creator, I'll work something out with Victuallers :P.


 * LOL I laughed when I first saw this 'course it sounds like it's the actual location of Foremark that's a "pig's ear" (never heard of that term before..:P).


 * Here, here you go, done: Foremark
 * --WiKID Daryl (talk) 23:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Reassessment
I think the Foremarke Hall article needs to be reassessed for quality, it's getting too damn good to deserve a B-Class rating! :P

Can you please help by extending your influence? lol kidding; but you sure got connections. :P --WiKID Daryl (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Edward Oldcorne
The supplied ref is only to a mainpage, can you please supply the actual page the info is in? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 00:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Co-incidence and nothing more
Have you seen this: the article Bamkin. Nothing to do with me, I assume the chieftain Kimi is not related... Also I found another very coincidental reference which I can't decipher: the video here is dull (or at least incomprehensible), but in the right-hand box, click on 'more info' and read the blurb.

Coincidence at it's most bizarre. Bamkin (talk) 19:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Willesley
I am sure you are aware that you have essentially recreated an article that was merged over two years. OK, the debate then did not attract much attention, but the article was almost entirely about the Scout Camp Site, and it still is. The consensus in general on this kind of article is quite clear at WikiProject Scouting. It should be merged. However, if you can add some significant non-Scouting material about the village and the old hall, that would be fine and a reason to keep. Note also that it needs sources, as does Leicestershire Scout County (The Scout Association). {{unsigned|Bduke}

Thx for the anon reply. Of course I wasn'y aware.... why should I be? I created it because we had notable people born at a scout camp! I'm pleased there was a debate but it wasn't too well advertised.... and yes it will get sources. As for merging fine! Make it about Willesley ... (which has a scout camp). Not the other way round... the place was there for centuries and still is, the scout camp has only been there for decades. Victuallers (talk) 07:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I forgot to sign above. Expanding it "about Willesley" is fine, if you can do it. You could have seen it was being recreated if you looked at the history. It is always a good idea to look at the history of a redirect to see if had been a stub that was merged elsewhere. --Bduke (talk) 11:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "There once was a stately here."? I remember visiting the place some years ago- a couple of people brandishing swords appeared from round the back of the church- it appears it's a regular meeting place of the Middle England Vikings, or something similar. The swords are beaten from the springs of Reliant Robins . Ning-ning (talk) 07:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, fine. Might be Wednesday before I can add anything though. Ning-ning (talk) 12:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm just printing off a survey by the Woodland Trust of Willesley woods- looks like there should be plenty of lumber to add to the article. Not sure on the DYK rules- if I put anything on my user page that subsequently gets put in the article does it count as prior publication? Ning-ning (talk) 20:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll have to hack out the Botham article then. George Fowler- British bottling pioneer is another possibility. Ning-ning (talk) 21:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

King's School, Ely
I wonder if you could glance your eyes over this, it has been improved significantly (I hope!) since you last checked it, and I wonder if you could give an idea of what level you think it is at. Thanks Rocketman89 (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I did an extensive review at: Talk:The_King%27s_School%2C_Ely Supports your comments. I would agree with the High rating. Calebrw (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Stonyhurst
Thanks. I intend to do quite a bit more. Will also go and take some new photos this summer. Orexis bouleutike (talk) 22:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

The Forsters
Poor William ... first he dies while going to see the President, then I don't see his article! I've had a go at a double nom: have a look and see what you think before I put it on DYK...


 * ... that Quaker brothers Josiah and William Forster were early members of the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society, and visited US president Franklin Pierce and European rulers to promote their cause?

I'll give him a quick copyedit after I've had a cup of tea. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!) 19:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I've inspected their biographies on ODNB—access being granted thanks to my ever-useful Brighton & Hove library card—and have found some more interesting bits, as well as coming up with an alternative hook which is solidly verifiable using the text from ODNB...


 * ... that Quaker brothers Josiah and William Forster, early members of the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society, visited US president Franklin Pierce and 13 state governors to promote their cause?


 * I'm going to add a few more facts to both now as well. Have a look, then I'll put the revised fact on DYK once you've done so.  Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  20:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * New hook is on DYK nominations page now. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  22:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

photo of Forster's grave
I'll try to get a photo of Forster's grave next time I'm in that area, but it won't be in the next 2-3 days. Bms4880 (talk) 21:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Richard Sharp, known as 'Conversation Sharp' (1759-1835)
Hi Thanks for the welcome. I could write a piece about Maria Kinnaird, with references, if you think this would have any appeal, but it may be a little esoteric. I am far from clear about how to navigate Wikipedia and this note is a bit of an experiment for me. Are you reciving me out there ? Mariakinnaird (talk) 20:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi again - sorry I've just re-read your message and I gather you want references for the Richard Sharp article, not Maria ! I have a list of books which I used in my own research or do you want something more specific for the detail of the article that I have supplied ? After 5 years of fascinating research I have plenty of references. Let me know. Incidentally, I think a much better title for my article would be Richard Sharp, known as 'Conversation Sharp' (1759-1835). At the moment Google seems to fail to pick up the Wikipedia article unless 'politician' is added which is a shame for anyone seeking information on him. Mariakinnaird (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Mariakinnaird (talk) 20:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Victuallers -most impressed at your alacrity and efficiency !

1. Try Googling 'Richard Sharp' and the two Wiki-references that come up are for Cornwell's fictional character and a footballer! There are hundreds of them ! My Richard Sharp was a giant of his time, once described as possibly the most popular man in London. Even altering the title to Richard Sharp (1759-1835) might help to elevate him up the Google pages and make Wikipedia more prominent. His role as a politician was one of his lesser claims to fame.

2. Sample reference (thanks) 'Conversation Sharp - The Biography of a London Gentleman Richard Sharp (1759-1835) in Letters, Prose and Verse'. D. Knapman, 2004 [Private Publication).

3. How do you highlight certain words in blue for cross-referencing? - or is this the editor's prerogative?

Mariakinnaird (talk) 12:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Victuallers

Thanks for your good guidance.

Reference my earlier queries -

1. Richard Sharp was best known as 'Conversation Sharp' and most researchers, academics etc will probably look for him under this heading rather than hunt amongst the many 'Richards'. On balance I would recommend such a heading and if you have some editorial function in this regard, how about it?. Failing this, maybe Wikipedia could consider a separate entry for 'Conversation Sharp' simply showing a cross reference to 'see Richard Sharp (politician)'.Or is this something I could do?

2. I have put in some references, following your help.

3. Any further tips?

Good wishes

Mariakinnaird (talk) 08:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, Roger, how am I doing ? I have added a few more names of celebrities (the list is endless). I see that Sharp's book has recently been added to GoogleBooks but I dont think I'm clever enough to show the link. I have scoured the world for an image of Maria - there must be one somewhere. She knew all the best artists and sculptors of the day, and she was a favourite of Turner, for example. It is inconceivable that Sharp would not have had her painted. As far as Richard is concerned, there is an exquisite drawing of him (almost photographic) in the Bodleian library, but that is covered by copyright.... I have a copy of 'Maria Drummond' a wonderful but rare volume. My account is but a drop in the ocean - its a wonderful story (hence I suppose my lapses into novel-mode, for which apologies)

I think I must put a line under this effort soon but any final pointers/help would be appreciated. You do a great job.

Mariakinnaird (talk) 20:39, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Roger. I have a photo of Sharp's image from the Bodleian but I see this is under licence to keep for my private reference only. I do so regret that what should be regarded as National property is guarded so jealously to make a bob or two. His image is reproduced in Knapman's biography. I am in the throes of moving house so I will pick up the threads of Maria Kinnaird at a later stage. I have added a link to Sharp's book which is on-line - is that ok? I have also made one or two final corrections but will leave it at that for the time being unless you dissent.

Good wishes

Mariakinnaird (talk) 16:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Harry Peckham
Many thanks for your encouraging remarks. Not sure that I will ever come to grips with the wikijargon but will try. The full title of Peckham's book is The Tour of Holland, Dutch Brabant, the Austrian Netherlands, and Part of France; in which is included a Description of Paris and its Environs. First published in 1772, it ran to five editions. My edition, to which you refer, is being published in October. According to Ben Nicolson ( in his book on Joseph Wright of Derby) Peckham died as a consequence of breaking his neck when hunting but I have not found any evidence of this. Best wishes,Mabrayne (talk) 11:27, 20 July 2008 (UTC) 86.112.14.116 (talk) 11:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Harry
Yes, I have a first edition of The Tour of Holland... (1772) which I have edited ( i.e. added an Introduction & Notes) for the History Press who are publishing it later this year. I arrived at Peckham through my interest in the diarist James Woodforde who was a New College contemporary of both Peckham and Francis Mundy - both of whom were responsible, on different occasions, for breaking down the door to his rooms: Mundy & Co. he described as being "drunk as pipers"! Mabrayne (talk) 15:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Yes I'm certainly interested. Two things: firstly, what is being sold? For example, if I charged you £1000 for permission to walk down Oxford Road, have I acted illegally?; you are now entitled to walk down Oxford Road. It shouldn't be too difficult to establish illegality if I was acting fraudulently, but what if I honestly believed that I was the sole owner of Oxford Road? This may be a similar situation if that department believed they own the rights... without fraud, the sale may be reversible, which is good. The second is locus standi, who can take action? Probably only somebody who has lost money. The problem here is that no test case would arise. We spend £10 on a picture. Then send them a letter before action. They return the £10 with no litigation. No test case, so no benefit for other people... Do you want to throw the bait and see if they bite? I'm game. Bamkin (talk) 20:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC) Oh I'd still like you to bring a handheld TV into my flat then inform TVlicencing.

Did You Know question
Hi. I've reviewed your DYK submission for the article John Harfield Tredgold, and made a comment on it at the submissions page. Please feel free to reply or comment there. Cheers, Art LaPella (talk) 23:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that means that omitting the word "legal" is deliberately intended to fool people. Just making sure it wasn't an oversight. Art LaPella (talk) 22:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't normally check references etc., but I could strike out the [[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] symbol. Art LaPella (talk) 14:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Penguin heel snapping
Give it up, the penguin is snapping on your heels, and should surpass you sometime this month or next on the DYK list. *grin*.-- King Bedford I Seek his grace  22:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Cheers
Thanks for the award; the blue stripe even alludes to my football team, so it's all good. Still a few more Brighton & Hove church articles to come, among others! Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!) 19:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Mary Shelley
The UK has very messed up copyright laws. See commons:Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag for more info. Basically, it's fine to use the image as you please in the U.S., but if you live in the UK, you might run into trouble. Kaldari (talk) 18:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Holyhead High School
Thanks for expanding the Holyhead article and including me in the DYK nom. The wording looks fine by me. Should British be Wiki-linked? I'll have a look at the article when I get a chance but I'm a little busy at present. Dahliarose (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Can I just clarify a point on Ysgol Syr Thomas Jones? You've put in the article that it was the first purpose-built comprehensive. Is that first purpose-built in Anglesey? In Wales? My understanding that the first purpose-built comp in the UK was Kidbrooke School (although arguably Scotland always was comprehensive). I didn't want to just stick a template in to query it, as overall it was great to see such a thorough article appear so quickly! Tafkam (talk) 17:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Derbyshire Joining
Hi, Victuallers seen your a regular participant in the Derbyshire project, so just a quick note; have re done the template for joining as the old one appeared over complicated, with cutting and pasting HTML code. So made a Wiki code one, without the coloured back ground. Nobody other than Ning-ning replied to message I left on the project page about joining and Ning-ning could not remember how. Can you have a look and see that theirs no errors with it, that I need to fix (novice wiki code editor), colours may need tweeking for header. Thanks --BulldozerD11 (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for Message Victuallers. a) Cause I joined the others 1st, and the Derbyshire one not user friendly ;) (to join up).
 * B)Left it as the separate page cause that was how it was set up, and if you mess up its only the table thats effected )(others appear to be like that as well). The button above the table should take you straight to it, I've Moved it to A new line & centered it.
 * C) To Get Table in the middle of the page had to put { {Template} } But there should be some thing in the template to make it centre, any Idea what im missing, as not managed a decent border round the box either.
 * D) Tagged quite a few articles for WP Derbys scope, but is any body assessing them, as the WP:Yorkshire ones usually pop back up a couple of days later after KeithD has assessed them ? And the page says 100% assessed in September 2007 !! Not sure how the assenent system works
 * E) Why if you type "WikiProject Derbyshire" in the wiki search box on the left do you not get the Project page listed ? ---BulldozerD11 (talk) 11:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply; Cheers works now, I can see why it diden't before. (WikiProject Titles Appear a bit mixed as some have name then WikiProject instead, Another Wiki quirk). Was not saying the Users were unfriendly (just the interface). See you have been and assessed a load of articles now. Can users merge article or just Admins e.g Butterley Engineering one.


 * I started a Template for Sheffield Companies which im trying to populate with articles as rather a lot of Red links (Original idea Spurned on by finding the List of Sheffield Companies full of some dubious entries and then finding load of articles on old firms floating in wiki space but not really linked to Sheffield) so doing a lot of tagging / adding cats. Put off writing new articles by need to sort refs out and my 2nd one being nominated for AfD within a few minutes. Was meaning to write Markham & Co. but Tudorminstrel has done it, so expanded it - BulldozerD11 (talk) 17:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Think you're a little confuzzled, I had nothing to do with a Clyde Barnhart ;) — 97198 talk  10:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Friendly reminder...
...to c-upload images when you update T:DYK so the main page isn't vandalized. Thanks! —Wknight94 (talk) 11:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:George_Na'ope_Crop.png listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:George_Na'ope_Crop.png, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Derbyshire Infobox Images
Hi Vic I've noticed that something odd has been going on with the above. I've left a note with User:Mattbuck who seems to have had something to do with the process. My take on the subject is that it's a lot quicker for me to manipulate the images than it is for me to upload and correctly name/tag/categorise them- it appears that it's because the images are deficient in these areas that they are getting deleted without notice (apparently).Ning-ning (talk) 08:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry- a further explanation. I left a note on his Commons user page. What he appears to be doing is replacing the image with the original Geograph image (he is assuming them to be the same). My comment above in relation to naming etc. is an explanation of how this came about, not a gripe. Ning-ning (talk) 08:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Vic. Thanks for message- much appreciated. I've replaced the Newhall image- cropped, corrected perspective, added a sky, uploaded to Commons at original size rather than small. Took about 5 minutes. I offered to write a synopsis of the process for another user, but found it really difficult to write. I'll have a look at the portal and assessment. At the moment I'm stuck on Stigand which is really stretching my brain... Ning-ning (talk) 09:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've corrected the size of the Sandiacre pic which Matt uploaded- it was a thumbnail before. Going back over what I did it appears that the files affected are those in which I retained the original geograph name- some of these have been deleted. Not any great problem as it can be sorted out by going through the same process again, and making sure I give proper names to 'em (like I did with Newhall). Had a look at the portal and assessed one article so far. Ning ning (talk) 14:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Checked through his contrib history, and that's the only one he's done recently. Seems to have other interests in the image department... Ning ning (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Vic. Thanks- I assume the list is on Matt's page. I can just go through the list and do them again- it's quite a relaxing activity. Ning ning (talk) 16:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been through my watchlist- found only two that needed replacing, which I've done. Ning ning (talk) 19:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The 25 DYK Medal
Hi, Victuallers. Thank you for the medal. Regards, Masterpiece2000   ( talk ) 02:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the medal, appreciate that! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 10:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

#DYKs
Hello, Victuallers. I'm trying to update WP:DYKLIST. I would like to ask if User:Victuallers/DYK is complete. Should #DYK70 carry 30 have 9 or 10 DYK banners? And where can I find the 170s? Please help. You may have reached the 200-DYK plateau.... --PFHLai (talk) 14:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Gross? I am not familiar with Gross (unit).  I'm more familiar with the use of this word as an adjective, and I doubt anyone would want to supply "gross" materials and call that "artwork" :-)  ... Have you looked at your DYK archive between "DYK70 carry 30" and "dyk80 carry 33 21 (derby)"? Anything missing? --PFHLai (talk) 06:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

re DYK
Nice school article on dyk. Well done Victuallers (talk) 09:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the thanks, especially coming from someone who has been such a prolific DYKer. I myself appear to be in the low hundreds on DYK nominations, and I have been trying to focus more on creating DYK-worthy articles when I find an article to be created or expanded. Alansohn (talk) 16:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers for the medal. I don't normally accept honours, but seeing as how I've earned this one, I might as well accept it. Thanks again. ISD (talk) 20:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

medal
Victuallers, Thank you for the 25 DYK articles medal! --Rosiestep (talk) 20:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Empègue
There's a typo in Empègue that reads "samples included here date back over 60 years to 1964" and I thought I'd leave it to you to correct it. Good article. - Boston (talk) 22:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:DYK medal
Thanks for that. Didn't know anyone was counting... Savidan 02:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:thx
That was kinda odd though, but it worked. :) --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 12:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Delta, Minas Gerais
You didn't credit me for nominating [Delta, Minas Gerais]] for DYK.-- King Bedford I Seek his grace  12:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you so much Victuallers for the 50 DYK award! PHG (talk) 18:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Next update
The DYK next update is ready to go if you could do the honours and switch it over? — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 18:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

200 DYK Medal

 * I'm here ready to give you this medal, Victuallers. (I have been too tired to do re-counts the last few days...)  Glad to see that I got scooped by Bedford. :-)  Congrats! --PFHLai (talk) 23:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, you're welcome. The Holyhead HS nom was indeed your 200th (unless you have more stray DYK banners still missing....)
 * BTW, you can wikify to specify and clarify. A great gross will always be 1728.  I hope to reach that number of noms by the next Olympics.... :-) --PFHLai (talk) 13:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Archiving
Don't forget that you are supposed to archive the previous set of hooks, not the latest set. This is to ensure the archive is updated with the final revision of the update, ie with all the mistakes corrected etc. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 05:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the kind words. Ottava Rima (talk) 13:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK next update
Hi, I was in the process of adding a couple of hooks before you added the "in use" template which resulted in an edit conflict. Sorry if it's caused you any hassle! I'll leave it alone for a bit so that you can add what you're adding. — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 14:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll do the credits for you. I've nominated a couple of football articles (Neil Dewar and Tom Brittleton) that will be expiring tomorrow. Obviously they can't go on the same update, so to give them both a decent chance of getting used please could you promote one of them in one of the next few updates? — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 18:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course not ;-) Seriously though, if you don't think that they make the grade for whatever reason then feel free to ignore them. I just didn't want them to be overlooked and as we have two football articles right next to each other on the suggestions page it would be very easy for that to happen. Since you're one of the most regular DYK visitors I thought that you would be a good person to ask. — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 19:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Any chance of getting the other one on before it expires? :-) — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 18:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK: North Star Mine Powerhouse
Thanks for the DYK selection! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK #50 for me
Thanks for the DYK notice -- that was my 50th DYK. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 15:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

FPC closing
Hi, do you know how to close a FPC nom if I withdraw the nomination? I made a nomination in Featured picture candidates/Nude protest, but there are several objections regarding the resolution of the image, so I withdrew the nomination. I want to archive it, what is the procedure?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 18:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

200 DYKs
Two hundred? Lofty! What percentage of that is stuff you wrote versus stuff you nominated? - Boston (talk) 22:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Markham (family)
I just found a few snipeds of info whilst looking at my book on Markham and Co and wiki search dragged up the two Bios, so joined them up. Am working on an expansion of Staveley Coal & Iron, and Think the father Charlie (Paxton) Markham should have an article, Also Clay Cross Iron co and Stanton and Staveley Getting decent refs is the thing. May get enough info for decent sized articles on some of them. Created Mappin and Webb the other week as one of the missing companies the old firms section of the navbox Sheffield companies for adding to Sheffield firms pages, if thats any use for you.

I'm Also writing other company articles for the Tractor Wikia site on firms involved in building, Tractors, Steam Engines, Construction Plant and Heavy Haulage Trucks, (Got 400 + pages to finish / add photos/ info boxes to), based on the Wikipedia article were they exist, with expanded lists of machines / models and preserved examples. So when I get writers block or had enough I trawl Wikipedia for article to fill in the blanks and categorise or Project tag them and make small copy edits additions. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 23:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Thank you for your contributions! - Mailer Diablo 03:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on your DYK and for letting me know about mine. Thanks! - Epousesquecido (talk) 15:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about the DYK for Illegal entry. You may consider updating it with a wlink for security barriers. Terjen (talk) 18:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice
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Insurgency in Saudi Arabia
Per the discussion in Talk:Insurgency_in_Saudi_Arabia, can you move this article to Terrorism in Saudi Arabia.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 11:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I've got that song in my head now
Strange ... the template looked OK on the Next Update page when I looked at first, but after checking the Main Page link and seeing that nasty gap, I went back to Next Update and I can see there is indeed about one line of blank space. I've fiddled around for a few minutes but can't see anything obviously amiss. I'll drop a note now at the talk page of a user I know quite well who is good with templates; he might be able to help. Looking on the Template:DYK Listen page, there seems to be a similar gap there when the template is displayed next to a line of text. I'll carry on looking into it... <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 18:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Still can't get anywhere at curing it. The " " parameter didn't help, sadly.  Hope your message on the template talk page will alert some experts!  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  20:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Monastery of Temptation
Thanks for the complement, means a lot. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The dyk next update sound thing
Does User:Bobet/test look better than what was in t:dyk/n to you? - Bobet 22:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No sorry, it's getting late. If you start doing a new update, you can just cut and paste that to the top and remove the regular stuff within the div tags. - Bobet 22:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sound hook
Not that that means I knew what I was doing :)

I just noticed the update was late and posted as is, after first checking to ensure it looked right on the front page. I can't open those sound hooks, so I don't even know if it works. So I can hardly take credit for it, you should really congratulate whoever prepared it for posting :) Gatoclass (talk) 08:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

About the expansion issue
Johnbod raised an expansion issue with my hook from August 28. Both articles had original content, (5k and 2.5k respectively) and the other information was placed onto the article in order to allow for a further expansion of the main Samuel Johnson article. I also rewrote quite of bit of this added material, reorganized, restructured, etc. I made the comment that if my "new" material would have to be 5x more than the imported, than a lot of my previous DYK would have not qualified, as I brought in previously used, but changed in the same way, information for background sections and the like. Also, I feel that if I would have submitted this, waited a few days, and imported the information in, than there would be the same page, without it meeting Johnbod's complaint. So, I really don't understand the problem. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Gunpowder plotters
Template:Gunpowder plotters has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Chick Bowen 02:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Zorn DYK
Thanks! :) By the way, I think I've found out why some of her medals are missing from the IPC website. It has a message saying: "Some information from earlier Paralympic Games (ie 1960 - 1984) such as relay and team members are not presented in these sources and therefore, this table may not be complete." Presumably, those missing golds were won in relay/team events. Aridd (talk) 22:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Imagemaps
Hi, I edited it at User:Bobet/test (again).

is on the left, is on the right:

If the examples seem like what you wanted, let me know and I'll write some explanation on it (if it's not self-evident) and put it in place of the old template. If you want me to remove or change the parameter names, let me know that too, thanks. - Bobet 08:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Victuallers/test

NB, this is an engraving, not a sketch. Johnbod (talk) 14:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I don't think it's currently possible to put links into the caption. There's a bugzilla entry on it at 8835 so it might get fixed eventually. But until then, we're out of luck. - Bobet 19:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK medal
Thanks for the medal. I plead guilty as charged. It was a fair cop. Assize (talk) 12:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hunterian Psalter
Removed in error, I presume? I will replace. Johnbod (talk) 14:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC) no, prob- back now. Johnbod (talk) 14:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey there
This is in reference to the article titled "Christ the King Jaguars". The article cites no references and has no encyclopedic data as such, so I tagged it according to WP:CSD. Do you feel this was inappropriate? I'm new at this, so if it was a mistake I really must know. Thanks. Antivenin (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. I've been editing barely 6 days and I've run into quite a lot of trouble already. So I thought maybe I should stop for a while. =P

Antivenin (talk) 15:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow, you have a lot of barnstars. Will you try for adminship (or whatever it's called)? Do you have the rollback feature? I want both, but I'm gonna work hard for a year or so before I apply. =)

122.163.196.53 (talk) 15:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: Sorry, the above comment was mine. It automatically logged me out. =(

Antivenin (talk) 15:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Umm.... where? Do you mean on my user page? What sources are you talking about? I don't understand. 0_0

Antivenin (talk) 16:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, I get what you're saying now. This Delhi Public School, RK Puram is my school. It has a pretty pathetic article and it'll take loads of work rewriting. =P I'll get down to it in a few days. My city's article doesn't need editing, however. I live in the capital. =) Thanks. Antivenin (talk) 16:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

A full rewrite is best I think. I'll read the guides on writing articles and then start writing. I'll contact you if I need help, thanks for the offer. =) BTW, the La Martiniere article is very well written. Antivenin (talk) 16:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Double DYK
First attempt at doing the credits...! <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 17:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hollyer
Glad you found Frederick Hollyer interesting. I didn't know anything but the name when I started researching. - PKM (talk) 07:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

thank you for your letter
thank you for you kind letter.

i have many friends in san francisco and we are concerned with this project as there seems to be some confusion in the world about various categories of current trends in sub-culture and counter culture music.

We work in Haight-Ashbury the birthplace of Rock and Roll, and are in the music and fashion industries, being designers, musicians and clothing designers and buyers for shops on Haight Street, the equivalent of Carnaby Street or Camden Town in London.

I have been to Camden, Soho and Carnaby Street once or twice a year for the last 15 years, and I travel to Prague, Montreal, New York, Paris, Rome and Amsterdam at various times.

This subject is a style I have been following and working in the field as well. There are changes afoot here in San Francisco, and we are all working together to help define what we believe has been only vaguely defined in the past and present, but will shortly come to be more clear in the future.

thanks again rik friday

(Rikfriday (talk) 12:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC))

Images for DYK
Looks like everything is okay now. I frequently make smallish thumbnails from details for DYK; just didn't think to do it with this one because it looked okay just shrunken. Will try to remember to do that! Not quite used to all the implications of the 20MB limit in Commons. - PKM (talk) 16:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

HI (sorry 'bout the spammy note),
- DYK updates have been a bit slow and there's a bit of a shortage of admins actively involved. We are asking folks who listed themselves on Did you know/Admins to update details on this page - User:Olaf Davis/DYKadmins, so we can grade everyone's involvement (and who, knows, someone may want to get involved more :) ).Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Daniel Kievsky
Several of us have been attempting to advise the author of this unfortunate stub for some time now. He has a habit of writing coatrack articles, and the misunderstanding that made Kievsky into a surname is all too characteristic of his edits.

It would be better if DYK did not reward this behaviour, but it is difficult to separate this flaw from its legitimate purpose. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK note
Hey there, thanks for helping me do the credits! I just wanted to notify you that I reverted you on one of your crediting becuase I already notified him if you hadn't noticed. Anyway, good job! -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 08:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :-) Well said. See you around, <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 08:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

The draft of Quintino Bocaiúva on this page and User:Victuallers/test
Hi, when you're working on a draft article, be sure to temporarily disable the category links by inserting a : (colon) at the start of the link, like this:

 Category:1836 births 

When you publish the article, you simply remove the colon. At the moment your talk page and User:Victuallers/test appear in the following categories: Category:1912 deaths, Category:Brazilian politicians, Category:1836 births. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 09:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK retrospective diagnosis September 8
I've responded to your query (I think) and suggested an alternative hook. Colin°Talk 20:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Botany Bay, Derbyshire
Thanks for your message. Appreciate the multiple tags were a bit gung-ho but I am not sure that "The real irony here" is a phrase worthy of an encyclopaedia. I was not intending to dispute the irony of the name but more the fact that (a) irony arguably can't be quantified - something is either ironic or it isn't and (b) I'd like to see a verifiable source that comments on the irony, else it smacks of OR. I don't mind if the tags are deleted, I just wanted to flag to the article's editors that it needed a bit of attention. Dick G (talk) 07:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, will have a bash at it when I get some time; always happy to help out UK Geo editors Dick G (talk) 07:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Swapping
Please do that in the next update. --BorgQueen (talk) 07:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Good idea
- Good idea for thinking to add that, I was noticing that T:DYK didn't seem to have anything for 9/11/01, though WP:TFA and WP:POTD did. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 08:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, you can do them, I have to run out for a bit. Cirt (talk) 08:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Derbs MPs
Hi - Thanks - I drifted into these guys on a creep from Henry Wardle (turning red links to blue) and they turn out to be very interesting. As I say, I'm not interested in DYKs myself, but don't let that stop you. I note Rev Thomas Gisborne (very interesting) is paged as Gisbourne which I don't think is right. Regards Motmit (talk) 09:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a pic of Elizabeth Hurt on the Cromford link if you feel like extracting it. It may take me a day or two to sort out the multiple instances of Hurt and Mundy Miller. Regards Motmit (talk) 11:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There are two B&W ones when she is fairly adult. Regards Motmit (talk) 17:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Apologies
(You wrote)

re. Gross Aktion. Sorry. Not sure if it was mistake or tiredness, but I have no idea why I thought your article lacked refs. Sorry. Victuallers (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Hello Victuallers, Actually, I'm glad you inspired me to expand on the already existing refs. And thanks for the words of support. --<b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:darkblue;">Poeticbent</b> talk  19:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC) Poeticbent has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

DYK next update
Hello again. I noticed you were listed at WP:DYK/A, and that you happened to be online and editing. If you get the chance, could you update T:DYK with T:DYK/N? We need an administrator to go through the protected template to do it. If you would like, I'll be happy to do the credits if you can't. Thanks! -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 21:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, never mind, BorgQueen got it. Thanks anyway for adding yourself at WP:DYK/A! Cheers, <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 21:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My reply here. Just keeping things organized. :-) -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Canal map
Thanks for the note about the canal map. Which one did you like, as I have done several recently? Bob1960evens (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Television DYKs
Thanks for adding Portal:Television/Did you know/51 to Portal:Television/Did you know. Glad you were able to figure out the formatting used for the other hooks listed there. At some point I should probably create a form-layout page and reformat that DYK subpage to make it easier to update/add hooks, sort of like at Portal:Norway/DYK. (Though I doubt we'd be able to find that many free-use images to use.) Cheers, Cirt (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

warning
Cheers - I've been mad busy at work this weekend so haven't had time to do anything. Anyway, the article got on the DYK page :) Parrot of Doom (talk) 20:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK rejected
Hi Victuallers, I think you were looking at the wrong article for the DYK's created on September 9 - the article the hook was referring to is Lamey Island Massacre, not Hsiao Liuchiu. I believe the former fulfills the requirements for length and in-line citation of the hook. Thanks! Taffy (talk) 04:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, I cunningly put the linked article second to fool you all. :) I think the time limit on that one has expired, so I'll just keep my fingers crossed for the next one I have lined up... Taffy (talk) 08:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK p.s.
p.s. I guess you know that anyone can hand out the credits like this? Victuallers (talk) 19:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to help out on anything DYK-related. If there is anything I can do regarding DYK as a non-admin, please let me know, it would be my pleasure to help out. Alansohn (talk) 19:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! Thats what I was hoping. Have a look here... no one has done the last 4 yet ... Apart from updating the main page then non admins can do 95% of the tasks Victuallers (talk) 20:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I jumped in and took care of the last four. I think I got them right, but i would appreciate if you could double check my work. Alansohn (talk) 20:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess you were double checking before I responded. I will come up with a generic template to use that will include a welcome before the thank you. When should the notifications be made? Do I assume I should not be thanking myself in the event an article of mine makes DYK? Alansohn (talk) 20:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll start with the thank yous and work my way up from there. Please keep an eye on my work and let me know if it's going okay, but I think I know the drill. Once I've got this down, let me know if there is anything else I can help with on the DYK front. Alansohn (talk) 20:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK Postscript
"p.s. did you know that anyone can hand out the credits like this? Victuallers (talk)".
 * I was aware of the fact, but had never taken it into consideration. I would gladly help with handing out credits to DYK participants. Thanks for the message: I'll get to it as soon as I can, and then check through with you to see if I've done everything right. -- Jor dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  13:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have started handing out credits. I seem to have got everything right so far. Thanks, -- Jor dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  07:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

hey
Thanks for the advice :). is "writing style needs to come out..." a compliment at the DYK comments? I do find my article related skills a bit lacking on occasion. <b style="color:#D3D3D3">Ir</b><b style="color:#A9A9A9">on</b><b style="color:#808080">ho</b><b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 11:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Derbyshire it is, then :). I have a massive backlog (we're talking a dozen lists of redlinks here) but one of them is the list of High Sheriffs of Derbyshire, so i'll get right on to that when i've finished the Chief Justice articles. Knowing how my mind works doing that will spark off 20 other projects to do with Derbyshire :P. <b style="color:#D3D3D3">Ir</b><b style="color:#A9A9A9">on</b><b style="color:#808080">ho</b><b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 12:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, challenge accepted! Did it not start until then or do the records you've got only go back that far? I've noticed other lists are also inaccurate; the first link to the Sheriff of Northamptonshire was 15-something, after I found someone appointed in 1206 or so :S. I've emailed the High Sheriff's association; hopefully they'll get back to me. As to the origins of Derbyshire i'll look at that too. <b style="color:#D3D3D3">Ir</b><b style="color:#A9A9A9">on</b><b style="color:#808080">ho</b><b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 12:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK next update
I handed out all of the credits, and I placed DYK templates on all of the article talk pages. I also protected the image which was due to go on the main page. However, the clock has not been reset, resulting in the new DYK's not making their way onto the Main Page. As I am not an admin, I cannot reset the clock. If you can, could you fix the problem on the DYK page, and update the Main Page DYKs? Thanks, -- Jor dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  13:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Main Page balance
I've put the last one back because it is already long enough on my screen. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Credits... and a question
I've handed out the DYK credits for this next set, as well as tagging the articles. just one question: how does an administrator protect an image for the main page, or for any reason. Obviously a DYK image requires a template, but what else is done to enable temporary protection? Does this work the same as protecting a page? Thanks, -- Jor dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  18:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So it basically boils down to the administration tools. Perfect. That answers my question. Thanks for responding, -- Jor dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  19:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Quick question
Hi there. I counted the Scrutiny hook as having 170 characters—why did you shorten it? (I'm wondering if I counted wrong :) Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was a bit worried—I rarely work on DYK, and thought I'd screwed it up ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism in Cyber subculture
12:10, 20 September 2008 24.6.189.234 (Talk) (11,793 bytes) (→Etymology) (undo)

hello this user is randomly deleting cybergoth fashion photos and text for no reason repeatedly.

The texts he is deleting are referenced explanations to the origin of the term cybergoth from the game playing company Gameworks in the UK and other parts and photos have been deleted for no reason. He does this repeatedly for no reason. The page was very balance and explained the difference between cybergoth and cyberpunk clearly in the previous version, which was always a valid point of confusion previously.

thanks if you can help

rikfriday

(Rikfriday (talk) 00:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC))

Helping with DYK
Hi Victuallers, I saw your note at T:DYK/N. Just letting you know that I'd like to help with the article talk/user talk credit templates if needed. I haven't done it all that often, but in general I've been lately helping out with whole DYK process, including updates and hook verification which I enjoy. :-) So if that's fine with you, I could do the talk page tags. Thanks! <font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie ☆<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93  19:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Forster's grave
I've uploaded a photograph of William Forster's grave. I wasn't sure where you wanted to use it in the article. Bms4880 (talk) 21:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the barnstar! I didn't go too far out of my way to get this image&mdash; that little town is just 10 minutes from a highway I frequent on a near-monthly basis.  Bms4880 (talk) 18:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Edith Atkins
Hi, whether she is DYKd or not, your edits have transformed the page. (The main reason for submission to DYK was to get help from somebody who really knows what they are doing.) Thanks. Autodidactyl (talk) 22:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, I never actually considered it my article, I thought I was helping Les Woodland with a very late submission, so I didn't start to get a grip until very late. It feels a bit rude to extensively edit a subject where he knows everything and I knew nothing. Cheers. Autodidactyl (talk) 13:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Edith Atkins

 * It wouldn't have happened without your help. Autodidactyl (talk) 16:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC) PS. Golden Book of Cycling is very raw.

Help?
Hello Vic!

It's me again, sorry to bug you! (Although it's been a while due to several things ;) ).

Basically, I want to get article writing, but tbh I haven't got the time to do that much research etc, and my knowledge is limited! I am going to do some more tram related articles, mainly expansion, but I was wondering if individual trams would be notable enough to warrant articles? They are all preserved at the National Tramway Museum at Crich, and indeed at least some are notable, such as Southampton 45 (first preserved tramcar), Leeds 602 (final development of traditional British tramcar), London 1 (spawned many new designs), MET 331 (spawned the LT Feltham Class), and many others. Problem is if i'm not sure if they would warrant notability?

Also, on a Derbyshire front, you posted at WT:Derbys about our 0.7 articles - would you like any help (as I said there) and what would you like (or the encyclopedia like) doing on them?

Cheers,

<font face="Gill Sans MT"> B G  7even   13:39, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey,
 * Thanks, but i'm sorta confused some more... :S
 * They are notable within the tramway press, and indeed are included in several books. Shall i write the articles in my sandbox and then see what people think?
 * Also, what should I do for Derbyshire 0.7? And cheers for the Portal ;) i'll get maintaining it again now!
 * Cheers, <font face="Gill Sans MT"> B G  7even   15:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

tramway press

 * 1) There is a list of people who tried out for the wimbledon hockey league in the 1940s. The wimbledon hockey club have issued several brochures and histories that list their names. They also were mentioned in their school magazines.
 * 2) Some of them went in to play for award winning teams and have small articles covering their lives in national sports pages.
 * 3) One has married a gorilla and won two nobel prizes.


 * Of these three sections which would you like to read about and which should we delete the articles for? I know these are ludicrous examples. If you want to search out notability then there will be examples of transport memorabilia but I'm hoping you might appreciate my understanding.

More seriously they do write articles about individual big military boats and cruisers as Admiral Nelson served on HMS Example and mentions it is his biography ... he does not list the coaches he used. I would expect to find articles on models of trams but not on individual trams. but its my opinion only Victuallers (talk) 15:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm well Number 3 would probably be the most interesting etc in your example ;).
 * My instinct would be to write them and see what happens: i'm writing them anyway for a specialist tram Wikia, so if they go I don't mind ;)
 * And if they are notable, will they be ok for DYK? ?
 * Thanks,
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> B G  7even   16:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Marguerite Wilson
Hi Vic, i started an article about Marguerite Wilson. I lack your experience with 'sharing' other people's image copyright, but I was intrigued with your justification for Opperman's Golden page. Can we (you) do it for Wilson? I also came across a good photo at Spoke - Quarterly Magazine of the Meridian CC, September 2008, does your experience allow you to justify uploading this aswell? Regards. Autodidactyl (talk) 13:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Portrait images
I suppose you didn't check this edit summary of mine. Currently there are too many portrait images on Main Page, and actually I hadn't thought that was a problem until EncycloPetey suggested to me a while ago that it didn't look good that all the MP templates have male facial images. Variety is highly important for Main Page, otherwise it will lead to bias. I know it can be annoying when someone else replaces the image you chose but please understand the reason behind my edit. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I tend to agree that the ship image is not particularly interesting but I had to choose from already loaded hooks. As for the issue of having too many "dead white males", we have a Chinese, a Japanese, and a Muslim male portrait image on MP at the moment, so the white bias is not the issue here. What I was concerned over was having too many portrait images on Main Page at the same time and that's about it. For the sake of diversity, I'd like to say that it would be perfectly justifiable if you had chosen a more interesting, non-portrait image hook from one or two days ahead of the cue. I know we have a bit of backlog now but taking just one hook from, say, 20 or 21 Sep entries would have been a reasonable trick. Thanks for your work and understanding. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Next update
I'm off to bed now, so you are welcome to fill the next update if you'd like to. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Assessments
Thanks, I've been practing on the Sheffield project first ;) Would you like me to look at the remaing ones which are all BIO articles ? (till i have a tagging sesion again and find a few more Derbyshire articles). Not looked a many Bio articles so far and the MOS relating to them, but  as far as a quick glance at WP:BIO Living says the basics are same as other articles with no 'rubbish' acceptable for living people is a quick summary. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I wondered if that was the case, I look at some later or tommorow, as working off a few more on Sheffield as below 100 to go, did a dozen or so on here yesterday. May get both projects down to Zero by end of the month, if dont go off on watch list patrol. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Done most of them now (for WP Derbyshire), just 10 left for tonight. If you disagree let me know (importance is hardest to define IMO) - BulldozerD11 (talk) 14:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Done them all, then added a few more but going to leave till ive done Sheffield ones and a bit of tagging here and at Lincolnshire.
 * Just looking at bot generated quality listing and see Thomas Cook at imp=Top ? would have thought Derby, Chesterfield etc would be above or equal ? Duke of Devonshire would be one of the very few people rated top for the county - BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps we should Hold discusion on project page, but i would think ,ax of 10 articles at Top, with  important places, people, companies ect that are highly associated with Derbyshire at next tier.  As the context is weighted to Derbyshire relavance rather than importance in context of the world or other projects (if that makes sense).


 * The WikiDVD release 0.7 items are selected already are they not, unless we nominate any ommissions. Improving articles with Info boxes and Photos etc is probaly a good idea, hence trying to find photos for the Derbyshire article, which then sent me off at a tangent again. some article may whant navboxes to link groups of themtogether. perhaps we should look at the stats for articles visitors to gauge popularity. Are there nany other active editors focusing on Derbyshire ? - BulldozerD11 (talk) 22:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Lord Byron School
A quick google search revealed quite a bit of info. More than enough for an above average stub. I'll get on it within a day or two. Thanks.--  Ευπάτωρ   <font color=#974423>Talk!! 20:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, lets collaborate. We can do it today. How would you like to go about this?--  Ευπάτωρ   <font color=#974423>Talk!! 13:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a school with an identical name in Thessaloniki, Greece so I included the name of the city in the title within brackets per MOS.--  Ευπάτωρ   <font color=#974423>Talk!! 13:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
You are welcome to fill the next update now, if you wish to. --BorgQueen (talk) 09:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Two things
Many thanks - please do come and get involved in Wikimedia UK; if you are not currently on the discussion list, you may like to sign up. Warofdreams talk 11:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Ashton Nicholas Every Mosley
Are you sure it wasn't his father (1795–1875) who was HS in 1835? It seems unlikely he'd be made a High Sheriff before his minority. Choess (talk) 13:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

cleanup
Can you have a look at the University of Derby article, I added a cleanup tag (early this morning) as the articles full of lists of courses, and inline links, and talk page has a message from some one claiming to be from uni that it keeps getting altered. But sone of current page to me is more like a adveret / pr job. Tag i put on was removed by an IP editor and reverte by another user, and then I put it back ( with a warning), the IP has reverted claiming its not needed in a message to me. I left them a message to discue on talk page, not revert and summarily remove tags. Thanks - BulldozerD11 (talk) 15:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks- had a look at the edit history now and there are POV / PR edits going on for a long time with the Use of inline links & removal of tags, occuring each time they are placed.  With two  Editors both claiming to be at the uni, doing battle . Including blanking talk pages. Think ive seen a notice about connect people editing articles displayed on a talk page, but canor remember where it was,


 * An all i was going to do was remove the inline links + list of courses. I only slapped the Cleanup not on cause of the talk page comments, (and adding load of specific ones just cluttters the page). I'll see if i get to it tommorrow, and if we get any constructive comments on the talk page. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

University of Derby
I do not understand why you have banned eits on the University of Derby page. If anything Bulldozer and overlleft should have been banned for erroneous tagging because the page in comparison to the greater lot of uni pages on wiki is of a fairly high standard. It appears to be that 70.161.38.178 has been wrongly judged here. The person was merely protecting the integrity of the page. I hereby request that you reconsider your decision. The global community should not suffer because of Bulldozer and overlleft; and 70.161.38.178 should certainly not suffer.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.218.37 (talk) 20:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Where would you like the reply? Who are you? Sign in please and sign your comments. Suggest you have the debate on the uni talk page and stop making accusations and find some consensus. Not sure if I set the protection up right ... I'll check tomorrow. But edits are not banned only for new and anon users. The page is very good in parts. The "ban" is for 3 days only. Don't talk to me, talk to each other. Disagree? Then get another admin to undo my action. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 22:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, there is consensus. Secondly, I suggest you rethink your tone of speech. It is harsh and disrespectful. Someone with a genuine concern for the page does not deserve to be spoken to in the manner you spoke to 96.248.218.37. The user was just stating what is known, i.e that Bulldozer and overlleft made edits of error that needed removed. Also, it is an abuse of your position to dicate something and then attempt to halt conversation upon that decision. 96.248.218.37 has every right to speak to you. It is your job to listen to users affected by your actions. Lastly, another admin is not good enough. If this situation is not handled more professionally by Monday morning I will contact corporate at both the University of Derby and Wikipedia forthwith.

Enjoy the remainder of your day —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.38.178 (talk) 23:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

You are free to appeal to Derby Uni and corporate wikipedia at any time. I got the impression that one of the editors claimed to represent Derby Uni maybe that will assist. When I suggested that (s)he should not talk to me, I meant the whole purpose is to encourage rational debate. I would find it easier to talk to these people of course if they had talk pages but that if his/her choice. At the moment there is no prevention of debate. Editting is still possible. If anon users have any difficulties then I would volunteer to load up any uncontentious content. Thanks for the good wishes Victuallers (talk) 07:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

King's Mill, Leicestershire
Wouldn't this article be more accurately described if the title was King's Mill, Castle Donington? Mjroots (talk) 08:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been creating windmill articles in the format (mill name, parish) where a mill has a name, or (parish name Windmill) where a mill doesn't have a name. As for the category, Mills in Leicestershire could have Windmills in Leicestershire, Watermills in Leicestershire, Steam Mills in Leicestershire and Horse Mills in Leicestershire as sub categories. The latter two need not be created until articles are written that fit these categories. Mjroots (talk) 09:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK Medal
Thanks for the medal. Personally I think it is just a tad premature as I've only created/expanded 48 articles (2 more in the pipeline) - the other 2 are merely noms of other peoples articles. Mjroots (talk) 12:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

John Gell (admiral)
Hi Victuallers.

My pleasure!

Regards, Ian Dunster (talk) 09:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

dyk
Update overdue. Thanks. Chergles (talk) 22:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, will try. I don't know how but I can read very fast. Count on me to do some, at least. Chergles (talk) 22:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I worked on it. There are now enough hooks. Chergles (talk) 22:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC) added 2 per your request. last set of hooks added to archives. I'm exhausted trying to learn and race against the clock. Chergles (talk) 22:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

"... that the credits need doing?"
Haha! Good one! That caught my eye that the credits needed to be done! :P Well, all done. I was, by the way. Nice seeing you again. :) – <font color="navy" face="cursive">RyanCross (<font color="navy" face="cursive">talk ) 00:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Shardlow Hall
Dear Vic, It was a toss up whether I created a new Hall article or expanded your School article. I have no strong feelings either way so please feel free to merge them if you wish. As to Sheriffs, there is still away to go. I have the info to complete the gaps in 1423 to 1600 but am running out of steam and may have a short break from this article and hopefully come back to it soon.

I admire your energy and ambition to improve the Derbyshire coverage. Keep up the good workOrdyg (talk) 10:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Lynn
G'day. Just noticed that my DYK nom for Charlie Lynn disappeared into the ether. Not sure why, but did I do something wrong? Was it a BLP with the Ernie award? Cheers. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=next&oldid=244659541 Assize (talk) 09:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Lucky Charlie is ex-army and able to endure the obstacle course of your clipboard. Thanks for being an unsung hero of Wikipedia in maintaining DYK. It makes editing much more interesting. Assize (talk) 12:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Henry Fanshaw school
Thanks for image of the founder. I've raised it to Start from stub, now it has refs and photo as well as a bit more of the history. Not sure its a C yet and as I've added a lot of it I may be seen as biased. Will the school 'Crest' be out of copy right now as it dates back to 1600's or do we need school to upload it ? - BulldozerD11 (talk) 13:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Cuckney
When did they move the border ? as tagged WP Derbyshire, but descriptions Notts, Border was just outside Cresswell last week. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Richard 'Conversation' Sharp
Hi again Vic, Just resurfacing from a house move and I see that a wrong correction was made to Sharp's article when 'Royal Society' was altered to 'Royal Academy'. I have a photocopy showing that Sharp's entry to the Royal Academy was supported by Wat, Burney, Babbage etc so this sentence should not be altered. If another contributer has evidence that Sharp was a member of the Royal academy then this should be added seprately, with the evidence (news to me, but possible I guess). Please advise what one should do in this situation. Good wishes Mariakinnaird (talk) 08:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Richard Converstaion Sharp
Sorry Vic, I confuse myself: Sharp was a member of the Royal Society supported by Babbage etc. It is the Royal Academy that I am querying as possibly incorrect. I have altered the article to show this. Mariakinnaird (talk) 08:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement (Lomcevak)
Thank you. Words of encouragement always well received :-)

El Dozer got back to me on my puzzlement.

I'll try to do as much categorization as I can, within this area, but my real interests in the search spaces remain 'depth-first' rather than 'breadth-first.'

Hence, as Dozer remarked on my watching exactly what Engel is up to in her NE Derbyshire representation ;-)

What is 'derby uni BD' btw ? I get the Deby Uni bit, but what's the BD?

Best

Lomcevak (talk) 10:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Figtree High School Article
Can you please remove the copyright Violation notice off the article. I have created a temp page with no Copyright Violation. Thankyou very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarky13 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Kodaikanal Lake
Hi! Victuallers, Thank you for accepting my DYK hook. It has not appeared on the manin page so far or could I locate it in the archives.--Nvvchar (talk) 15:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I located it in the archives. Thank you, once again--Nvvchar (talk) 15:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK Flora of Western Australia
'Hey go read the article history or the nomination information,I wrote it in user space and moved to to main space on the 13th October diff. Your writting the nomination off is absolute garbage. Gnangarra 11:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * my apologies for bitting. Gnangarra 15:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Help?
Hi,

What was the meaning of your edit summary on bobbing for apples? The article needs work or what? -- How do you turn this on (talk) 18:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Halloween DYK
Hi. I saw you were looking for Halloween DYKs. I have a DYK nominee up right now, Julius Nicolai Jacobsen - the article also has something about a haunted house. If you feel it's good enough, you could make an Halloween-y ALT hook of that. Punkmorten (talk) 21:20, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK credits
Hiya, when adding things to /N, such as this, please don't forget to also list who nominated it :) Cheers, Daniel (talk) 02:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's just that there were nominators for those two articles (namely, me), and if the nominator doesn't get listed, they don't get the notification, so I wasn't sure if there was an issue with the hook until I went and checked. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 11:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Charles Maries DYK
Thanks for the note - I agree that the picture of Abies mariesii I used is rather dreary; there are others available but none are terrible exciting - at the end of the day how do you make a conifer look pretty! I wanted a hook that referred to a species named after him - the only other is the fern Davallia mariesii for which I hope to create an article but I don't have time at present.

Of the sub-species bearing his name, my favourite is Viburnum plicatum "Mariesii" - there is a picture in the article. Would that look better for DYK? If so, I will change the hook accordingly. Thanks for the encouragement. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 15:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC) p.s. I got bored writing about footballers!

RE: DYK for Hansjörg Wyss
Yessss. Thanks! :D Glass  Cobra  20:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Doing the credits
Sure, I can do the credits if you'd like. :-) Thanks for updating it! Cheers, <font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie ☆<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93  14:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah. ;-) I just like helping out with managing the DYK process, especially when I see that it's backlogged or late. So if I gain enough experience and maybe become an administrator some day, this would definitely be an area I'd like to work in because sometimes there aren't a lot of admins to help with updates. Good luck! :) <font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie ☆<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93  14:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

tin(IV) fluoride
Hope you don't mind but I removed the Uses section you added as the reference quoted referred to tin fluoride but the compound actually added to toothpastes is stannous fluoride SnF2, and the author was being sloppy in his definitions. I suspect that SnF4 may be in toothpastes as a contaminant- and as I don't know of any uses for SnF4 - (I added it simply because its properties are unlike other group 4 fluorides and other tin halides) - I shall look for a reference for that as that would be interesting. cheers --Axiosaurus (talk) 17:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Zift (film)
Great. I wait for eight (8) days for someone to review the article and I find out that someone has had a problem with its referencing only after it has been removed from DYK as expiring by you a day later.

Here's another reference for the hook, it might be a blog but it's a legit interview with the actress herself. I decided to use IMDb as a source because it's in English and because that other source is a blog. And what happens… IMDb is not good enough and the DYK nom is quietly removed.

I'm not accusing you or anything, but I quite frankly believe there has to be a system to notify contributors when such unpleasant stuff happens: in that particular case, I could have provided another hook or the source above if it is considered reliable. But what happened really disappointed me for some reason :S Todor→Bozhinov 20:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it's OK, I'm not going to make a problem out of one nom. I was just pointing to the fact that we need a way to notify contributors when such stuff happens. All the best, Todor→Bozhinov 21:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK credits
Victuallers, I was wondering if perhaps I could help hand out the DYK credits, on both the artcile talk pages and on the nominator's talk pages. I did so last night, and everything went fine. There was a small glitch in that you handed out the credits to the users after I had already done so. I have gone back to the affected user talk pages and have removed the second DYK posting, apologizing where necessary. You may check my contributions here to verify this is true. I know that the DYK department is in need of editors, so I am willing to help out with whatever needs doing. Is that fine with you? Elucidate (parlez à moi) Ici pour humor 09:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A load filling? Now I'm just slightly confused. Elucidate (parlez à moi) Ici pour humor 14:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I have handed out the credits on the pages of the article writers, DYK nominators, and, of course, on the article talk pages themselves. I'm hoping to avoid a double-DYK posting, so this is just so that you know. Elucidate (parlez à moi) Ici pour humor 21:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * How soon after the next update should the credits be handed out? Directly after the new DYKs are placed onto the main page? Elucidate (parlez à moi) Ici pour humor 11:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, what can I do to help? Are DYKs that have been passed on the template talk page get placed on the next update page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elucidate (talk • contribs) 11:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've done three, but am unable to upload the image from my computer. I followed the procedure, but the laptop I'm using is unable to upload images to Wikipedia. Could you upload the image and protect it? See the next update page for the link to the relevent article, and you can find the image on the template talk page. Elucidate (parlez à moi) Ici pour humor 11:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've removed the DYKs from the template talk page. Thanks for your help, much appreciated. I think this is an area of Wikipedia I could enjoy contributing to. I think I might go and find some nominations of my own. Thanks again, Elucidate (parlez à moi) Ici pour humor 12:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Parikrama
I definitely made a suggestion that we save this hook for 28 October, the Diwali day, yet you moved this to the next update without leaving any comments. Did you actually notice my suggestion? --BorgQueen (talk) 00:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. As for the prize, what if we choose the winner based on this statistics? --BorgQueen (talk) 16:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * And, since you are online, can you fill the next update? I have to take some rest.. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Dr Mabuse - Page title
Dr Mabuse (cycling) - This excellent new page has been created by your old friend Les Woodland, but I suspect that it should be titled Bernard Sainz If this is true, what is the best way to rename/move/redirect/copy it, and preserve the history. Thanks. Regards. Autodidactyl (talk) 09:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC) ps (also copied to SpinningSpark)

hi was up my name is cparker1 yo bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cparker1 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

No, not yet.
But you can check out who the winner is on the stats list. Not exactly a surprise though. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The Nebulae stayed on Main Page for less than 6 hours (slightly more than 5 hours, as I recall), had it stayed longer the hits might have been barely over 5,000, but then it won't make it the winner anyway. The winner, as you might have noticed already, is User:Jmabel, who wrote the mummy hook. And that fact doesn't surprise me, with that photo of the handsome mummy. --BorgQueen (talk) 07:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Tsomoriri
Hi, Victuallers,

Thanks for the DYK. I have fixed the dead reference no 2. There was a small error in conneting the notes with the web address. I have also added some more text as suggested on the Talk page.--Nvvchar (talk) 13:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Next update
We have enough hooks now... please stop adding otherwise would break MP balance. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course we always need your help, since neither of us is an automated machine. :-D It is just that I pay more attention to MP balance. I know we have a backlog problem nowadays but we can solve it by flipping DYK a little early, hopefully. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if this would work, but ITN has offered DYK some real estate on the Main Page. That might be a way to clear some backlog. -- Suntag  <font color="#FF8C00">☼  03:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Alderwasley
Hi

Sorry to possibly confuse. I am the Head Teacher at Alderwasley and found out today that the school's page had been altered by one of my disaffected young people (possibly one I permanently excluded) so I have just attempted to correct the false changes they put on. This is my first time altering the site so just learning as I go along. I obviously have no objection to you removing overt reference to the school on the Alderwasley page - i just want to remove the emotional behavioural reference as this is not the nature of the students at the school.

I was trying to find out how to report the students who made the changes to prevent them doing the same again.

Thanks Veronica Jenkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by Veronica.jenkins (talk • contribs) 22:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Alderwasley
Hi,

Thanks for your answer. I have now found how to submit a vandalism concern. Looking at the history of the person making the posting I think I have identified who made the changes. I totally agree about the "truth" element. If you would like to look at the schools official web page http://www.senadgroup.com/alderwasley/ it will verify who I am and the nature of the students.

regards Veronica.jenkins (talk) 22:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Alderwasley
Hi,

That will help thanks - especially as he's just changed it again. Looking more at his history and the other page that he has tried to change (those changes have been rebuffed by someone else - not me) I definiately know who the young man is who is making these changes.

Thanks Veronica.jenkins (talk) 22:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK quick flipping
If you're online in 3 hours, would you flip to the next group that I just loaded? We're trying to cut the backlog by flipping every 4 hours. No need to respond - I'm going offline now.  Royal broil  16:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Hook mysteriously dissappeared
Hi Victuallers, could you check out this thread? ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 00:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Credits
I was wondering if you could do the credits? Thanks. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Update
You can finish it if you like, I'm getting a bit tired. Gatoclass (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Technically, hooks are supposed to be left up for five days after the initial challenge, but if you want to discard some no-one is going to stop you, although you may cop some complaints from disgruntled nominators :) Gatoclass (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

re: DYK
Sure. Sorry if I got you into an edit conflict earlier. &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 15:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, it looks like you've got 8 in Next there already. How many more do you want there? &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 15:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nvm, Gatoclass got the last one in. &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 15:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know, the Magoja hook you just added to Next Update has a picture with it. I accidentally put it in earlier, too, but then I noticed the picture there...are we supposed to only have one picture in each update? Just checking, &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 20:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, that's fine. I just thought maybe you hadn't noticed the picture (since that is what I had done).  Thanks for your explanation; I'm still just at the beginning of learning how DYK works! &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 20:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I added a 9th hook to Next and I must had added it right as you were moving Next into the queue, because I don't see that hook in the queue. Here it is:

... that in October 2008, the biofuel company Mascoma received a US$26 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy to develop a cellulosic fuel production facility?

*

Sorry about that, &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 18:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Hey there. If biographical material is in a list does it count towards a former word-count? I've expanded this page and I'd be interested in submitting it for DYK (it has some interesting points). The previous version of the article has the text in list form; does that count as a list, and if so can I discount it when doing my character counts? Ironholds (talk) 05:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. How would you classify the article in question? Ironholds (talk) 14:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have good judgement? :P. Thanks for your help; I'll see if I can expand it a bit more anyway and then push for it. Ironholds (talk) 14:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK queue 3
I left this message at Gatoclass' talk page, but just in case he doesn't see it before Queue 3 goes up, I'm copying it to you as well:


 * Hey, I feel a bit stupid for having been the one to tick this hook, but the 1970 Tonghai earthquake hook (at the top of Queue 3) is a bit inaccurate now that I look at it...it says the earthquake monitoring network was established "following" the 1970 earthquake, although it was actually established 25 years later and the source given in the article doesn't even present any causal relationship between the two (the so source basically says, "A network was installed in Yunnan. BTW Yunnan has some bad earthquakes.  There was one in 1970 and one in 1976.")  The hook could be changed to "installed 25 years after the 1970 Tonghai earthquake," (although that still seems to imply some causal relationship that isn't supported in the sources given), or kicked back to T:TDYK for discussion.


 * Sorry about green-lighting that hook erroneously, &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 15:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hi
Hi, I havent removed it, i was asked to swap it. It will just appear a bit later on. The australian DYK would mainly be interesting for the australians would've ended up only showing when most of them would've been asleep

—<font face="Trebuchet MS"> Ree dy  13:52, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

PE Railroad Bridge article
500 characters coming up. Thanks for letting me know and thanks for shortening the header. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

name calling
Hi. Thanks but it doesn't bother me. In fact, I like that they waste time and invective on my talk page rather than article space. :-) Cheers!   D OUBLE   B LUE  (talk) 20:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Frederick William von Thulemeyer
Hello Victuallers, can you take a look at this lemma, Frederick William von Thulemeyer. Can you give it some attention? Taksen (talk) 13:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Harike wetland
Hi!Victullers,

The following DYK hook appeared on 10th November 2008 on Harike Wetland.

But I did not find it in the archived list for that and the next date as I was preparing a list of all DKYs done by me so far.Will you please let me know where I can find it now to put in my list? Thank you.--Nvvchar (talk) 17:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Lady Constance Lytton
Hello Victuallers,

I wonder if you can advise or assist me with regard to images and copyright. I have created an article about Lady Constance Lytton that will be on DYK today(ish). It would be greatly improved if it included a picture(s) of her. As the images in the cited in the sources are 98, 100, and circa 110 years old, can they be uploaded, how, and what rationale? The most suitable images are in her 1914 book, Prisons and Prisoners, and are specifically 1908 and 1910. please see Images of Lady Constance Lytton and Jane Warton.

Can you help? Thanks in advance. Regards. Autodidactyl (talk) 09:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Many Thanks. Autodidactyl (talk) 19:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * thank you for the welcome! I've been meaning to get started here for quite some time but I have always been putting it off until recently. Thanks for making me feel welcome and thanks for the solid advice.History Duff (talk) 19:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Bio rating
Hey, you reviewed Patrick David Wall in terms of article class (start, C, B, etc); would you be able to do the same for Jack Heslop-Harrison? Thanks in advance :). Ironholds (talk) 22:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Template Schools in Derbyshire
Hi Victuallers Re: Removal of red links, OK I was going to add articles but not really enough for more than a short stub, and dont really think short stubs contribute much to Wikipedia other than being a place holder for links in articles. I did think it might tempt somebody to take the plunge and create some articles but no look :( I can add them back when I do. Must get back to assessing some more of the articles I tagged, see you have done a few recently. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Happy Xmas
Thanks, Victuallers! :) –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks from me too. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 16:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy Christmas to you - I'll try to get the article about Harry Linacre (Fred Forman's nephew) written in the New Year.  --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Yupiit School District
Regarding pictures of schools for Yupiit School District - pictures may be available for the buildings, but they would be "I found them on the web" pictures and as such probably wouldn't meet fair-use guidelines for an article about the district as a whole. I hope when they get their web site fully up we'll see a logo we can snarf under fair-use guidelines, like I did with the oh-I-wish-it-were-1500-characters article Chatham School District, it also has good language-hook potential. Look for more "interesting-fact-inside" school-district and school articles in the coming weeks. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  21:03, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:Chesterfield
Hi Victuallers, User:Wikiert invited me to join WikiProject Chesterfield a couple of days ago, but I don't think it would be such a good idea, would you mind taking a quick look at my comments and let me know what you think. Being from Derbyshire I thought you would be the best person to ask :) Many thanks, Schumi555 (talk) 14:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Minninglow
Hi! Since you seem to be expert at this (and Derbyshire) and I'm a tyro, perhaps you might like to review my additions and amends to this page?

Many thanks

Word2thewise (talk) 02:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks so much for the barnstar! Schumi555 (talk) 17:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Giro d'Italia
Hello Victuallers, Can you help, please. I have created several pages and tables about the Giro, (eg. 1923 Giro d'Italia) based in the Italian data, but the pre-war Italian flag icon doesn't work in English, so I have had to substitute the contemporary 🇮🇹. Can you / do you know how to fix it? Upload the icon to English? Create it as a page? Sadly not my area of expertise (yet!). Thanks for any help you can give. Autodidactyl (talk) 18:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Aldwark & referencing
Good day Victuallers,

Many thanks for your feedback on my Minninglow efforts; I shall bear your points in mind when submitting/editing in future.

I understand the value of referenced entries (was a tech journalist until I took up consulting) but feel they should always be used sparingly. Useful for substantiating precise claims, e.g. stats (I quoted Victorian population figures in when tinkering with the Aldwark page and referenced the source - thanks for tidying this, I'll be able to insert refs/footnotes correctly now). But they can be overdone - some Wikipedia stuff seems to be reference-heavy when much of the subject matter is clearly demonstrable/observable matter of fact.

One small cavil: you reckon numbers should be spelled out up to twenty but the style books I used to use as a journo generally favoured ten. Are you offering your opinion/received opinion or a Wikipedia rule? And is there a Wikipedia style book - I'd be interested to take a look.

I'll do my best to hack away at minor Derbyshire geographical/topographic and historical entries. Naturally, I'd be grateful if you could keep me on track - I see you've been in most of the entries in which I've had a hand!

Thanks again,

Word2thewise (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

LC Lecesne & B Burns
Hi, this is a test post. Looking forward to collaborating on LC Lecesne and B Burns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsieur Blanc (talk • contribs) 21:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * hmmm Reply - I wonder if you have found my reply on your talk page here? Victuallers (talk) 17:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

British India
Hi, Victuallers. I wonder if you could read through the page Talk:British India? I know this isn't a million miles from one of your interests, you may even feel able to make some input there? Xn4 ( talk ) 05:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

100 DYK Metal
Thanks for the 100 DYK Metal. I got to close out that part of my User Talk Page to make it Archive 5. It starts with the 50 DYK Metal and ends with the 100 DYK Metal. Also as you can see I put the Metal also on my User Page. I will have to ask you for help from time to time as it looks like you have been around for some time - as your 200 DYK Metal shows. --Doug Coldwell talk 15:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks also for the Christmas greetings. I am only guessing - is Wiki-time based on the Greenwich Mean Time? I say this because it is 5 hours ahead of where I am in the Eastern Time Zone and I believe that would put it at Greenwich Time or there abouts (probably in your neck of the woods). Since it appears you are in England this has reminded me of a controversial article I have worked on in the past, Street light interference. Much of the material in the article is based on a book by Hilary Evans of London. He was with the Association for the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena when he wrote the book in 1993. The "effect" is just that - a simple effect that appears to happen to some people worldwide with no other special power. The "effect" has no controlled power of any type, however the article has stirred up much controversy. How I have had this "effect" is on the first External link of the first 7 YouTube videos. Over time many people worldwide have responded to these videos saying how this has also happened to them also. Don't know if you are from London or if you ever heard of this phenomenon? I would be considered a "SLIder" since it has occured to me for the last 25 years (that I have noted). Probably you have not heard of this, since it only happens in about 1 in a million people (my guess) worldwide. --Doug Coldwell talk 20:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Interesting Doug, but I'm with Massimo Polidoro. The most interesting aspect is that Hilary studies this idea. Happy new year! Victuallers (talk) 12:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Holiday thanks
Thanks for your nice holiday message. Best wishes for a very healthy, happy and successful 2009, and of course Happy Editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:49, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Christmas Greetings
Thanks for the Christmas greetings. I hope you have a great Christmas and new year. I just wondered which canal it was that you had seen. (I have been working on about 5 in the last week!) Bob1960evens (talk) 18:22, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

thanks!
thanks very much for the barnstar! a very kind thought :) Dsp13 (talk) 19:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Best Wishes
Thank you, and to you as well! Cirt (talk) 21:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Season's greetings
Thanks, Vic! And a Merry Christmas to you too. Here's some old fashioned Christmas pud for ya :) Gatoclass (talk) 05:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)



And holiday greetings to you too. Thanks! Daniel Case (talk) 04:39, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Christmas wishes. I hope you had a good Christmas and that you're looking forward to lots of new DYK medals in 2009. Dahliarose (talk) 15:46, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Ada
Dearest Ada Lovelace was originally put on my list as a special request from some of the comp sci guys. I always liked her and delving into her history only made me like her more. I completed only half of the original request: I added citations and the rest as a stop gap measure against vandalism that wanted to put in just about any crazy thing in. The partial citations allowed for the hundreds of editors watch listing that page to know what information is real or not. I should return to her, and I most likely will after I finish her father's bio. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 17:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Castillero Middle School
Can I have some ideas on how to improve the article to a C-class or higher?Wikijjc (talk) 18:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I just moved the image to the bottom for Asif. I did this because it took the whole section downwards. I did not erase anything. I believe that the page looks just fine now after whatever I (accidently) or someone might have erased.

Happy New Year
Happy New Year to you too! I hope that 2009 is a good year for you. It would be hard to top 2008 since you became an admin. I don't think that there's anything organized for Darwin Day, but I think you should be bold and do it! I doubt you would get objections to such an important scientist. My time on the 'pedia is now quite limited as I finally found a job. While it wasn't in my field and the pay is low, I'm proud to say I did land a job in this tough economy. Anything is better than no money per hour.

Have you been watching DYK? The DYK bot is down because its owner left. So we're stuck doing manual updates until its new owner can troubleshoot and put it on the toolserver. So please help watch the updates.  Royal broil  13:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks
Thanks for the pic information. Regards, Joebloggsy (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

DYKAdminBot
I have restarted the dykadminbot so it no longer needs a human to manually update. However I need someone familiar with the process to verify the bot's contributions and tell me that they are correct. Further details are at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know.
 * P.S. This post is being cross posted to the 4 "active" users listed on Did_you_know. It is fairly critical that one of these four double check the bot before 01:00 UTC. ——  nix eagle 19:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What little of DYK I know I learned from the code, and from asking PeterSym on IRC. Basically I need you to check that the bot is doing nothing wrong. I can't point you at a specific error to look for sorry. All the edits just need checking over by someone that is familiar with the process. The bot is doing nothing that I can see wrong, but my opinion here is not worth much until I get more into the process and start fielding feature/bug reports. ——  nix eagle 19:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

James Carlile
Hello

I just came across your article on James Carlile because I have in my hands a volume of the Irish "Scripture Lessons for the Use of Schools" which he is said (by library catalogues) to have compiled.

The item about the purgatorial society appeared to clash with material later in the article from the Catholic Encyclopedia suggesting that he was anti-Catholic (which may be unfair given the speeches made in the House of Lords apparently referring to the Scripture Lesson material as being an attempted compromise between a Protestant and a Catholic position). I therefore looked up the reference you gave and concluded that, unless you have other evidence, it says nothing like what you have interpreted it as saying. My guess is that, in a Protestant pamphlet, he merely described what the Roman Catholics were doing.

I then looked up the reference regarding the "Belfast Academical Institution" and again (unless you can provide other evidence) you appear to have completely misinterpreted it! Castlereagh was (at that stage) seeking to stop them using the Institution because they had shown an independent spirit. I skimmed the passage and couldn't see what the suggested alternative was, whether the Scottish University was in fact correct or not.

I have therefore marked the page "disputed" and opened up a section on the article's talk page. --PeterR (talk) 23:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Richard Conversation Sharp
Hi Roger its me again. I have quite forgotten how to navigate this site so I hope this reaches you. Just to say that I noticed that there is a redirection on Wikipedia that refers to 'Richard Sharp (Politicician)' and which obviously doesn't work with such a mis-spelling. Can this be corrected? I also have an image of Sharp which I can forward if this is easy ie within my grasp. Good wishes Mariakinnaird (talk) 18:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

hook selection
hi there, I was wondering if we could put a hold on one of the Virginia hooks until the next batch. It makes for bad variety otherwise. Thanks.Nrswanson (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I think so. We just need to make sure we don't copy it to the holding queue.Nrswanson (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Richard Sharp (politician), Maria Kinnaird, Dora Wordsworth, Samuel Boddington, George Philips.
Hello again Vic, I notice that this particular Richard Sharp is omitted from the list of Sharp Surnames. Are you able to correct this? I have also written short pieces/additions to the above entries, which I hope are ok. Good wishes, Mariakinnaird (talk) 10:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

re: The 50 DYK Medal
Thank you very much for this recognition. Cirt (talk) 16:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Cricketers
Hi Victuallers - you may be interested in the note I left at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket. There is much useful information buried around Derbyshire cricketers. I hope you don't feel I have been too hard on the cricket people. There are about 100 players that still need articles and no one seems to be doing much about Derbyshire and indeed most of the articles read pretty negative about the team. Is anyone on the Derbs project interested in taking this up. Regards Motmit (talk) 20:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The Derbyshire cricket teams contain quite a lot of important and interesting people such as brewers and landowners and I have been taking an interest in this. I don't plan to write any articles myself, firstly because I have other things to work on and secondly I'm not an expert on cricket. But if an article gets written from the non cricket world it gets sort of ticked off their list and cricket stuff doesnt get in poperly (see Samuel Hill Wood) so its a bit of an impasse. Anyway I shall keep working through those that have been started Regards Motmit (talk) 20:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad you liked Buckston Mi. I gave up and decided at least to do the missing captains of Derbyshire which is now complete. As they had to be amateurs until after the war they usually had a life outside cricket. You can chain back through them and you might want to pick up some more for the Derbs project - one was associated with the mill at Matlock (though none of them were nicknamed "conversation"). Regards Motmit (talk) 20:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Uploading images - licences.
Hello Victuallers, I have recently been editing Paris-Roubaix but it needs a headline image that encapsulates the event. Thus I am planning to email a professional photographer and ask him to release a low resolution version of an iconic image. As posters and reprints are his livelihood I expect he will be somewhat reluctant, to say the least, thus I need to reassure him that a 'bcdef' licence will protect his general ownership of the image and the reprint business.
 * Can you tell me what licence I should suggest?
 * What I should do to find out?
 * Will a watermarked image be acceptable to wiki?
 * Have you got any other advice...

Regards, Autodidactyl (talk) 18:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Amanitore - 83d40m
Belated thanks for "light edit" of the article. A definite improvement. Pity the culture of historic Africa below Egypt is not better known. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 20:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the recognition. I intend to work on some of these topics and have a similar hope that these cultures become better known. 83d40m (talk) 23:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Greetings
And late thanks, too, Victuallers, for your New Year greeting! By the way, I see Another Old Derbeian has just arrived on the Main Page for part of today. Xn4 ( talk ) 18:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar of beauty
Didn't want to glorify the article/your work too much on the dyk page, but Las Meninas is a stunning one. Congratulations again, :) Julia Rossi (talk) 22:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad it was good timing for you as well. Courage to you, Julia Rossi (talk) 21:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks! Hope to do more in the future! :P Shrumster (talk) 21:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

King of Clubs club
Hi Vic/Roger

I have just received my first Wiki-mugging for this article on the King of Clubs. It was promptly put up for deletion because I hadn't got around to putting in some references - at least I think that was the main objection! I had no idea the Wiki-police were so prompt (nominated within minutes of me putting it on !). Seems a shame because it is a highly researched article containing information that is not available elsewhere to the best of my knowledge. Anyway, your support has been valuable in the past and maybe you can tell me where I have erred ?

Good wishes, Mariakinnaird (talk) 18:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

King of Clubs club
Vic

Many thanks for redeeming my confidence - and hopefully the article! Much appreciated. Mariakinnaird (talk) 19:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Kay
Vic

Thank you so much for your help recently. I have added to Joseph Kay's entry but cannot get the reference (showing a useful internet link) to appear under 'references'. Can you help me please?

Obliged as ever, Mariakinnaird (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the 25 DYK medal
Thanks for your appreciation. When someone recognizes your work, it motivates you to do more. Thanks. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 12:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Richard Sharp (politician)
Vic, I have gained permission from the artist for her impression of Richard Sharp (a good pastel work)to be donated to Wikipedia. I can forward her consenting email if it helps. I think you once offered that I could email it to you, which I would prefer, since my editing skills might otherwise mean it would become lost in the ether. If you are still willing I can send it, with all the details, for adding to the article. I am still editing it as you may have noticed, to try to make it worthy.

Good wishes, Mariakinnaird (talk) 19:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Vic

Thanks for doing the picture of Sharp (is it possible to give it the title/attribution supplied? I noticed the reference to his education being Oxford. I have never come across this unless you have turned up some new information. As a very staunch dissenter he would normally have been barred from entry (although I fancy there may have been one or two rare exceptions). Certainly, I have never seen any reference to him spending time there. A different Sharp? I have meanwhile replaced the reference to Oxford with Dr Fell's tuition, which is definite. As I recall he thought of a career in law but gave this up because morally he could not reconcile the thought of having to defend a guilty man. I would be interested to know what evidence there is, and for how long, he may have attended Inner Temple. Where did you find this? Thanks again,

Mariakinnaird (talk) 11:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Fahd APC
I restored the hook since the only problem was that the link should have been at Fahd Armored Personnel Carrier instead of "Fahd APC" as the other editor had abbreviated it. - Dravecky (talk) 14:29, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

2 pics on DYK
I probably could... but just because it's never been done... there had never been more than one featured article before last November and that had two pics at once... --➨♀♂ Candlewicke STundefined 14:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, well we'll see what happens. Thanks for the advice. It would be something different but its not of great importance at any rate. --➨♀♂ Candlewicke STundefined 14:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Conversation Sharp
Vic it seems you may have been right about Inner Temple. I am seeking confirmation from the archivist there. Where did you dig this up from? - and thanks !

Mariakinnaird (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK update
Hello. The DYKAdminBot doesn't seem to be updating again; it's late and an update needs to be pushed. Could you manually do the update if you're here? It should be from queue 5. Thank you! Shubinator (talk) 17:29, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Instructions for doing the update are at DYK. Shubinator (talk) 17:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed by Rootology. Shubinator (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for doing the update! I can do credits. Shubinator (talk) 17:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's been completely dead for a little more than a week now. Shubinator (talk) 17:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Credits finished. The queue can be cleared now. Shubinator (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for an opinion
If its appropriate to request this and you have time, would you please check out comments made at Talk:Python_reticulatus and Talk:Python_reticulatus. It is my position that I've endured days of personal attacks and incivility from User:Mokele and User:Jwinius. I've lost count of how many times I've encouraged courtesy in these users. Perhaps encouragement of good behavior coming from someone other than myself and User:Cygnis insignis might have effect. User:Cygnis insignis's comments on our discussion begin as follows “I've waded through the incivility, bold assumptions, uncited assertions, expletives and other obstruction to this good faith contribution. However this is not the place for identifying this obnoxious pattern of behavior...” (see hidden comments at Ultimately, this dispute is about a claim made by [[User:Mokele] and User:Jwinius to allow certain content at Python_reticulatus that they deem unencyclopedic. Thanks for considering my comments. -- --Boston (talk) 20:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Mokele has told me "Cry me a river. I see absolutely no reason to listen to a mere amateur. Come back when you have a graduate degree in herpetology. Until then, stop wasting our time" and represents his editorial standpoints as "I don't give a crap if the news articles meet some overly-vague WP rule...we should stick to peer-reviewed scientific journal sources ONLY" and has referred to my good faith edits as "unencyclopedic crap" (all comments at ).
 * User:Jwinius has informed me that I am "silly",, "petulant" , "irritable", "thin-skinned", etc.
 * Please also note this edit summary by User:Mokele "Put up or shut up, amateur. Show me this mythical "outside arbitration", because you seem to lack the balls to use the talk page anymore." I need help dealing with these editors. --Boston (talk) 20:16, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK 200
Thanks for the latest medal. FTR, User:TonyTheTiger≠User:Tony the Tiger--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

William Ouseley
In answer to you question, see this section of my talk page. Also, I changed the tag on the William Ouseley article to an inline ref. -- Eastlaw  talk ⁄ contribs 02:01, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:GA
Hi there. I didn't realise there is a special way to achieve that status. What should I do? Joebloggsy (talk) 19:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Godefroid Munongo and DYK
Dear Victuallers,

I stumbled upon Godefroid Munongo on the Africa Bot listing and think it is very interesting, so I nominated it over at Did you know?. While the article is great, if you expanded it a bit, I am sure it will make it on DYK. Thanks and keep up the good work!--TM 15:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the 50 DYK Medal. It is much appreciated :) <strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  20:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Conclusion of the American Civil War
Could you take a look at this article I wrote. I am working to improve it to G.A. status. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 13:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Question about the update
Thanks for doing the latest DYK update but I have to ask: why did you skip queue 2, the one up next in the rotation, in favor of queue 3? Is there an issue with a hook in queue 2 that needs to be addressed? - Dravecky (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Gresham's School
Hi, Victuallers, would you mind taking a few minutes to look at this article? It may not be very obvious, but I've done quite a lot of work on it since your assessment, and I'm wondering whether it has moved on from being a B. I see that some sections still need more citations, but subject to that is it anywhere near GA, do you think? regards, Xn4  ( talk ) 01:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

thanks for changes to Dethick piece
Slider idea interesting, as it affords central image immediate visibility. I'll might copy it on other panoramas--tho' sometimes full panorama fits well as composition. Re the gibbet line, I'd deleted that earlier as non-encyclopedic in nature, but when its author reinserted it, I left it.Alethe (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Salting?
Hello Victuallers. I was wondering if you could consider protecting Clayton Jones (now a redirect and salting Clayton jones from creation. The former has been created three times, the latter three times, all six being created by different accounts before speedy deletion. &lowast; \ / (⁂) 20:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Godefroid Munongo
I got your note. Sorry if my comment on the Munongo hook seemed harsh. The phrasing "involved" just seemed very vague to me. Given the history you've outlined, the uncertain phrasing certainly makes more sense. After reading your note, I tried going back to the hook to give it a second look, but it seems to have disappeared from the suggestions page. Any idea what happened to it? Cbl62 (talk) 06:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Recording history of integrity here


 * Well I think you were pretty stiff to miss out on a DYK for this article. I really can't understand the comments that the nature of Munongo's "involvement" wasn't clear. He "personally assaulted" Lumumba on his way to execution - are we to supposed to conclude that he didn't know what was about to take place? I'm really quite mystified by the objections to this one. Unfortunately, I think it's a little late to try and restore this hook now. Gatoclass (talk) 07:29, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

50 thank yous
Thank you, this is somewhat ironic timing... even though I am past the 65 mark at this stage, it is unlikely I will be contributing any further, nevermind a large amount within the next sixteen days, due to this confidence-shattering incident... I've put an L in the name as it looks empty without it... ;) -- Candlewicke STundefined 15:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But is Awadewit allowed to continue doing this? I'm sorry if it came across in a bad way but plagiarism is something I have all my life been informed of as the worst possible allegation – be it at school, university, etc. I have never been accused of it and, having happened from nowhere, I was shocked due to the fact that so much of my work is generally on the Main Page at once – three of the ITNs are currently my own contributions, for example – and if I was unfit to structure a proper sentence, then I thought it highly unlikely I was qualified to continue being featured on the website's flagship page. This incident has shattered my self-esteem a bit due to a significant volume of work being blacklisted for a time by someone I thought respected (and what if I hadn't returned to DYK to check it?), which is all very well, but it cannot be good if Awadewit is doing this on a regular basis... I was familiar with the name Awadewit before this, probably from wandering around DYK, but I had never thought something like this was capable of happening... I've been over to see if she has responded and found the exchange has been removed... I haven't even the heart to go check if it's made it into a queue or been wiped completely... -- Candlewicke STundefined 16:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your support and especially so if you are busy engaging in other more constructive pursuits. :) I shall not take it personally. I am not one to normally be easily distressed by things going wrong and I think I have responded to what has occurred so far with a significant enough amount of fury to conclude that wrath versus accusation are now balanced. I just do not take kindly to being walked over and not at least informed with a note on my talk page as Awadewit did. I spent half of December as a sockpuppet because an IP address vandalised my userpage and I did not wish to be left with a reputation for plagiarism as well. -- Candlewicke STundefined 17:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hiya Thanks for your comments/question regarding my edit to the Pentrich Rebellion article. I'm trying to raise awareness of the Morland Dynasty which is a very well-written and well-researched series of historical novels by adding links to it on articles that are relevant to the issues or periods of history covered in particular volumes. I've found that many other articles on wikipedia have a Fiction or Popular Culture chapter where people list films, plays, novels etc. which are based around a historical character or issue. I have read the 5 pillars of wikipedia and the pages about editing and appreciate that Wikipedia is not a soap-box or advertising medium and am only referencing volumes of the Morland series which are relevant to the subject of the article.

I think that people who are interested in the Pentrich Rebellion,the Industrial Revolution and that era generally, might find the novel I have referenced interesting.

Sorry if you disagree and if the Pentrich article is yours I understand if you wish to delete my entry.

I have read the pages on formatting and will try to remember to add my username in future. Was there anything else specifically that was incorrect in my editing? I am very new to this.

Regards Dnalrom123 (talk) 16:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Mainpage
No problem. I was just getting a bit frantic trying to figure out what was going on. Your comment on the next update page said something like "done credits" so I thought you'd moved the update from the next update page to the mainpage instead of taking an update from the queue. And then when I went to T:DYK, I couldn't find the purge button on the mainpage, and I thought the whole thing had been screwed! Given that I am up very late, I was starting to worry that I was going to have to stay up even longer trying to fix things up! But now I realize it was just one smallish error ;).

BTW, please don't forget to bump the adminbot count, you forgot that a couple of days ago. You can do it from the queue master page now, I left a link there. Gatoclass (talk) 19:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know, it is difficult to keep up when you don't do it on a regular basis. Even I've made a few booboos lately and I have been doing quite a bit of updating and what-have-you over the last few weeks.


 * Re your query, if you go to the Template:Did you know/Queue master page, you will see a line that says "After doing a manual update, please update the queue count." Click on the link that says "queue count" and just bump the number by one. That way everyone knows what the next queue page is. You don't have to worry about it this time though, 'cos I've already done it :) Gatoclass (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your note re 50 DYK.Ekem (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for looking at the Kents Hill page. Your advice is appreciated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpudh74 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK update
Another update is due, from queue 2. I can do credits and archiving. Shubinator (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We're back in action. That was pretty funny. Shubinator (talk) 20:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * PeterSymonds did the update. Shubinator (talk) 20:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no one could edit for over half an hour. I thought it was funny. Could you take a look at next update and next next update and promote them if they're good? Shubinator (talk) 21:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My bad, PeterSymonds just did that too. Shubinator (talk) 21:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Main page balance
Hi Vic! Sorry to bother you with the technicalities again, but I've noticed that several times you have removed some hooks from the update on the main page to maintain page balance.

I thought it might help to inform you that the way we generally deal with mainpage balance these days, rather than removing/adding DYK hooks, is to add or remove entries from the ITN or OTD sections on the right hand of the page instead. I generally don't do this myself, because I have an old fashioned CRT monitor (I hate those LCD monitors) which doesn't display the same as the newer widescreen monitors so it's hard for me to tell if the page is out of balance. If you don't want to fiddle with the ITN/OTD entries yourself, just give Borgqueen a nudge, she is often happy to do it.

The reason why it's generally not a good idea to fiddle with the number of hooks on the mainpage is firstly, because they've often been carefully sorted for balance, and also because we need eight hooks per update in order to avoid getting a backlog. Other than that, you are doing a great job, and thanks for all your continued assistance at DYK ;) Gatoclass (talk) 15:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I think we get some "very wordy" hooks because some updaters just don't bother trimming them :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

James Pearson Newcomb
Hi. Thanks for the improved edit on my self-nom for James Pearson Newcomb. I just realized that I placed the nomination under the wrong date. It should have been the 6th of March. I thought I would bring this to your attention - I'm a little timid about moving it at this point, so close to the cutoff. thought you might know how to approach this? Verne Equinox (talk) 00:34, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK next update re Clare Potter and Sportswear (fashion)
The next DYK has a hook for Clare Potter that includes the article Sportswear (fashion), which was created after the Clare Potter hok was nominated. Can I suggest that the Sportswear article be bolded and that User:Mabalu be given appropriate credit? Alansohn (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you can do this ... sounds ok to me Victuallers (talk) 21:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. I knew I could do this, just wanted to make sure if I should or if anyone else needed to do this at this point in the game. Thanks for the reply. Alansohn (talk) 21:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley
Hi,

I was hoping you could help again as you were such a help last time I had a problem with the Alderwasley Hall School page.

There seems to be 2 people currently determined to add inappropriate material onto the page they are some one using the IP address: 84.69.55.49 and a user named: Johnthewalker.

Sorry to have to bother you with this but it would be beneficial to the school not to have the page vandalised in this way.

Thanks Veronica Jenkins (Principal, Alderwasley Hall School) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Veronica.jenkins (talk • contribs) 23:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley
I'm sorry but I don't think the changes were inappropriate. They were properly referenced, from trusted sites. This Veronica Jenkins seems to be the principal of the school, and as such is not really in a position to decide the contents of the wikipedia page. There seem to be a number of people 'vandalising' the page, not just the two she mentions.Johnthewalker (talk) 06:44, 13 March 2009 (UTC) You say that, but you appear (I say appear as I can only see what I see) biased too. Your account has only been used to edit one article .... Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley
Hi, sorry to join in on this but as I see it, a number of parents seem to be having problems with the school, they have aired their complaints on two websites and the principal is determined to minimise their impact by warning them off wikipedia. It's hardly fair play. The websites are trusted and they are referenced elsewhere on wikipedia. 'Veronica Jenkins' only uses her account to police this specific page, it's hardly democratic of her.

I haven't posted on the Alderwasley Hall page and I have no intention of doing so, but I think it is wrong of her to treat wikipedia like an extended advert.

Thanks for listening and I'll just step down from my soapbox. 84.67.66.56 (talk) 08:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley Hall
Hello Victualler! Looking back on the Alderwasley Hall Site, I'm beginning to wonder if 'Veronica Jenkins' really is the principal of this school? S/he hasn't always bothered with vandalism, just wading in when specific people edit the page (including bona fide edits, such as the last one). If s/he genuinely was the principal then she would laugh off genuine vandalism and accept genuine edits. It's hardly democracy. S/he also made a rather threatening comment last November, about a child she suspected of vandalising. It just doesn't sound right to me.

There are a number of school pages which include the new schoolsnet website as a reference. Either they have all been vandalised or none of them have. Even if s/he is who s/he says s/he is, it is against the spirit of Wikipedia to cherry pick external links when it suit the user (who is not neutral in this situation), not the page. 84.66.8.77 (talk) 10:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip off. Its not my intention to support the school and its message. Obviously there is room for doubt. If you feel I have cherry picked then please revert or add to my my edits. Victuallers (talk) 16:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Backlog?
Hi Vic, I just noticed you left an edit summary on the T:DYK page mentioning a backlog. Trust me, we don't have a backlog! In fact, I've been a little concerned we are going to run out of hooks lately. We were up to 240 hooks on the Suggestions page, it got down to 165, but now it's back up to 180, which is about average - but we also have some empty queue pages. Submissions seem to be down lately, so IMO there's no need to worry ATM about turning over updates quicker. Gatoclass (talk) 20:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Disambiguation page
I would make one but not sure how yet...--Darknessandlight (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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Diesterweg
How come only one source when both [2] and [3] attribute it to him? (Also, only 3 says 'sometimes'.) -- Menti  fisto  12:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

alderwasley
please can you remove the block on the alderwasley page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.90.147 (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sign in ... who are you? 17:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

alderwasley
yer its me Johnthewalker (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK update
Thanks for your work with DYK. :-) FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 21:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Goof
RE User_talk:Rlevse, I did not write that one, I wrote Orion P. Howe, which is also up for DYK. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 22:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

This one is not mine either - I wrote Tecumseh's Confederacy. Lol! Charles Edward (Talk) 18:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * yea I can fix mine. No big deal!. I am just not sure who this really belongs too. Charles Edward (Talk) 18:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK archive
Hey Victuallers, I noticed that in this edit you emptied the Current page of the DYK archives, but I can't find where you archived those hooks to; Recent additions 242 hasn't been created yet. I'm not sure if I'm just looking in the wrong place or something, so I wanted to check with you so I don't accidentally go creating duplicate archives or anything like that. Thanks, <b class="Unicode">r ʨ anaɢ</b> talk/contribs 23:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, never mind, it looks like I just created it. Feel free to delete it if the hooks are already archived somewhere else and I just didn't notice. <b class="Unicode">r ʨ anaɢ</b> talk/contribs 23:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Jassy-Kishinev offensive
I think it meets the criterion. It's about 1750 chars long, which is 250 above the minimum, and we usually count in-text quotes, it's blockquotes we don't count.

I do agree though that the article seems very short, but technically I think it probably squeaks in and in any case I'm not the one who either approved or promoted it :) Gatoclass (talk) 12:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oops, sorry, I thought you posted that query on my talk page when in fact you posted it at the DYK discussion page. Anyhow, I have replied there now, on reflection I'm inclined to agree the article was too short, but it's a bit late to do anything about it now. Gatoclass (talk) 12:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Nice pics
Thanks for adding the pictures to Tissinton et al. Very good images. Do you know you can add them to commons here so that the French etc can use them too? Victuallers (talk) 17:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I will look at uploading them to commons, I've never really known how but I shall look into it, we wouldn't want the French missing out... <font face="Batik Regular">Highfields (talk, contribs, review) 18:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Buxton High Sheriff
Dear Vic, as ever you are quite right. The reference caught me out as it only refers to HSofD. I have now moved him to HSofDNandRF. And I have added a reminder of the relevance of 1449 to both articles.Thanks for the help. RegardsOrdyg (talk) 17:33, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

hi mate
you can't say that its bad i wen't ther for 2 years and i receved death threats and 3 attempted murdes 84.68.85.213 (talk) 09:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Why don't you log in? Although you will need the newspaper articles on the attempted murders if you want to talk about them. Can you try and add capital letters please. Victuallers (talk) 09:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Premature rating Hogerbeets article
You were too quick of the mark rating the Rombout Hogerbeets article "start" class. It was clearly marked as "under construction". I have therefore taken the liberty of removing your rating.--Ereunetes (talk) 22:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I only intended to add the template, I must have got over enthusiastic as it was a bit short of a start Victuallers (talk) 14:18, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem then. Thanks for your interest.--Ereunetes (talk) 20:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK update needed
Can you do an update? Should be from queue 3. I can do credits and archiving. The picture has been protected at Commons, so the temporary upload isn't needed. Shubinator (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've finished credits, so the queue can be cleared. Also, there are a few temporary uploaded Commons pics from before that need to be deleted; could you delete them if I gave you links? Shubinator (talk) 22:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Here are the pictures that should be deleted: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Shubinator (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ack, apparently File:2009 L'Aquila earthquake.png wasn't uploaded from Commons, because there isn't a picture with the same name there. It must have been tagged incorrectly. Could you restore that one? It has quite a few links to it. Sorry! Shubinator (talk) 23:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC) (The other redlinks had nothing pointing to them)
 * Oh, and there's an error on WP:ERRORS...in the third DYK hook on the Main Page, MX3000 should be plural. We could change it to "MX3000 units". Shubinator (talk) 23:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Credits have been done for this update. You and Ruhrfisch got there at the same time :) The queue can be cleared. Shubinator (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have wondered if adding the graphic somewhere before starting would be a good idea to avoid duplication of DYK efforts. Calling me a "great mind" is very flattering, but sadly a falsehood ;-) . Take care, Ruhrfisch  <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Anti-Slavery Society Convention 1840
FYI I noticed you've been preparing an article and a template/image map on the Anti-Slavery Society Convention of 1840. I also recently uploaded a full resolution (10 megapixel) image of this convention at File:The Anti-Slavery Society Convention, 1840 by Benjamin Robert Haydon.jpg. I've taken the liberty of updating the articles that use the old image as well as your image map to use the new image (automatically using a script - multiplied all the numbers by 2.924). In addition to the higher resolution, this version does have the jarring damage to Thomas Clarkson's arm. It's been listed as a featured image candidate at Commons:Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:The Anti-Slavery Society Convention, 1840 by Benjamin Robert Haydon.jpg. I hope the new image will be useful to you. :-) Dcoetzee 02:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

The DYK Medal

 * Thank you for the hard work. The cat pictures are not mine, but make my page pretty nice. :) --Caspian blue 19:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the Q 5 credits
In a sec. <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  20:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'll let you finish those. I've done all the "tag"s.  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  20:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I can do the queue 2 credits. Shubinator (talk) 16:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. Shubinator (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Credits done. Thank you! Shubinator (talk) 16:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Err, you didn't reset the time correctly. You're only supposed to replace the time with the template. Please post this complete code into the time:

Shubinator (talk) 19:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Shubinator (talk) 20:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK is due for an update from queue 6. I can do credits and archiving, as usual. Shubinator (talk) 17:05, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm ready. Anything helps! Shubinator (talk) 18:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Moonriddengirl got it. Shubinator (talk) 19:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Fermín Salvochea DYK
Thank you. I have expanded it a little and added an image (which can be perhaps used on the main page?) and references and referenced him in the Anarchism in Spain article. Please let me know if there are any other concerns. Madhava 1947 (talk) 19:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to get some sources for the other article. Probably will nominate it later. Thanks for your suggestions. Madhava 1947 (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Edward Adey
A nice piece. He is my great great grandfather. May I ask what prompted you to write a page about him?

Regards John Adey Johnadey (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Farragut High School
??? -- That request for semi-protection was made in May 2007. I don't see a current issue with article. (Not that semi-protection is a bad thing...) --Orlady (talk) 17:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for Mediation
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Sir Thomas Rich's
Many thanks. I am currently writing a history of Sir Thomas Rich's. I was the fifth generation of my family to attend the school.

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DYK update
I can do credits. Shubinator (talk) 16:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can get the page from its history. Shubinator (talk) 16:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Another update due. Queue 3 should be up, but there's a dispute on one of the articles (discussion at WT:DYK and the talk page). I'd suggest either skipping 3 again and going to queue 5, or posting 3 without that article. (Oh, and I can do credits.) Shubinator (talk) 19:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, PeterSymonds got it. Shubinator (talk) 19:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK Article
Hello Victuallers. I have recently nominated two articles, and the hook with both articles was selected and used (today, right now:). Only the first page received a new DYK tag see talk page here: 2. The second nominated page was not tagged: 3. I would tag it myself, but I am unsure as to whether I should tag it, since I nominated it. T ARTARUS talk 19:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The other article was Wilhelm Ernst Peekhaus. T ARTARUS  talk 22:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley Hall School
Hi

Unfortunately there has been yet again even more silly editing on this page. Could you again reset and block changes.

Thanks

Veronica Jenkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.8.111 (talk) 09:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley Hall School
Hi,

Thank you for putting the block on so quickly, however the block has gone on with the wrong version. Sorry didn't think of changing it myself. Would you be able to put the page back to the proper version?

Thanks

Veronica Jenkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.8.111 (talk) 09:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

alderwasley
mate whoever that personis i don't hing that she is the headteacher i went ther for 2 years and she was stange but not strange enugh to advertise on a non-profit site and follow what students that she claimed she perminatley excluded are doing (by the way if she says i was i was not perminatley excluded) 84.66.106.3 (talk) 16:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

alderwasley
also look how many silly edits she has done no way that can't be her 84.66.106.3 (talk) 16:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley Hall School
Hi Sorry to be a real pain but one of the key bits of vandalism to the page is the fact that we are not an EBD school but a school for children and young people with Aspergers and/or Speech and Language Impairments. Could you especially change that bit for me.

Thanks for your help

Veronica Jenkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.129.18 (talk) 21:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikithanks
Just a note of congratulation and thanks, as you really do a lot on Wiki to make it a better source of info for so many people. Your contributions make a huge difference :) Ginga123 (talk) 23:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Portal Lyon
I'm in the same situation, It's my first experience in creating portals, Outourly will help me. If you find somebody who can help us he is welcome for the portal:Lyon. Even if he don't speak french we need someone operational in wikipedia's commands. Lulu97417 (talk) 17:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

City status
Curious, why do you claim that Acequia, Idaho is not a city? Check the second source and search for Acequia; it proves that it's a city. Nyttend (talk) 11:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion; didn't realise that you were UK. Very true, can't imagine the cathedral there; the smallest US community with a real cathedral, as far as I know, is Gaylord, Michigan, population 3,681 in 2000.  I agree that these states are weird in this way; my native Ohio doesn't grant city status to any municipality unless it has at least 5,000 people.  Still not a British city, but at least it's a little closer :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Derbyshire
Hi Victuallers. I'm just wondering if you know of any coding that I could use on the project page so the template does not categorise the main page as a member of the WikiProject here. I hope you will be able to help :) Many thanks, <font face="calibri" color="#B57EDC">Schumi <font face="calibri" color="#66FF00">555 18:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been working quite a bit on the Peak District article over the past couple of days but feel that it would be best to get more users involved to try and push the article towards GA as my knowledge has just about been exhausted. What do you think is the best way to go from here? Several users have tried pushing the article forward before, see here for example, so this could be a starting point... Thanks for your help, sorry I keep turning to you, but I don't know anyone else to ask :) <font face="calibri" color="#B57EDC">Schumi <font face="calibri" color="#66FF00">555 20:37, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:100 DYK medal
Thanks a lot! :-)- The Enforcer <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">Office of the secret service 11:40, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK coment
Hi, I appreciated your first comment about Newington Green Unitarian Church here: Template_talk:Did_you_know. I have amended my original suggestion -- would you be able to look at it again? THanks. BrainyBabe (talk) 11:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
For the cleanup at Sambisari - sniff - I used to live within a few hundred metres of there - cheers SatuSuro 00:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC) Very odd cannot work out the attention the article is getting cannot see any reason? SatuSuro 01:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Alliance
Hello, I am 95jb14, an active member of WikiProject Lincolnshire, I am writing to inform you of a proposal of mine that is very popular at WP Lincolnshire. It is about forming an alliance between WikiProjects Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. It is basically to help the sharing of advice and other useful info on local matters between the WPs. I have left a message on your WikiPs. talkpage earlier in the week bit haven't received a reply so I thought you might be able to shed some light on the situation, talk to your fellow WikiProjectians (I think thats right) and perhaps point me in the right direction. If need by take a look at the more formal message I have left on the WP Derbyshire talkpage. Thanks, 95jb14 (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC).

DYK for Augusta Anne Ayscough
Jenuk1985 |  Talk  18:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, you may not know that Wikipedia has a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Using different styles throughout the encyclopedia makes it harder to read. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Jenuk1985 |  Talk  18:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC) -->

Samuel Jackman Prescod
Hi. I've reverted my edit to this article because I suspect that you are right. Being an American, I generally lean toward removing titles whenever possible, but I think MoS guidelines may be against me in this instance. Can you point me to somewhere where this is dealt with? Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 19:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hindlip Hall
You may  have ignored the fact  that  until I  placed a Worcstershire project  banner on the talk page, there had been no previous talk or assessment of the article at all - if there was, then someone had deleted the entire talk  page. Therefore it had not been 'reduced to  a stub'. I am currently  placing  the Worcs project  banner on the talk  pages of ALL 2,000 Worcs related articles, and stub/low is the default setting  until  someone comes along  and changes it. If your knowledge of English history and geography is very  good, you  may  wish  to  help on a regular basis. It's rather odd to go straight  on the offensive when another editor makes  a genuine effort for a change you don't agree with. --Kudpung (talk) 18:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The irony is, that I started the Worcestershire Project (single handed) just a couple of weeks ago in  an effort to  get  some of the Worcestershire related articles greatly  improved at a local level, with local  knowledge. They  were nearly  all  in a very  bad state. Hardly  any  of them  had any previous assessment or project  banners on  them at  all before I  started the work. It's a thankless task going  manually  through  over 2,000 articles, and I much  prefer the creative writing side of contributing  to the WP. I'll abide by Jenuk's decision  regarding  Hindlip, because she is the only  other active member of the Worcs team - but I will certainly get around to including  the Hindlip Gunpowder info into the main Gunpowder article when I have the time, because it needs to be there,  and that was the reason  for  - quite legitimately - parking  it my  user space. People looking for info on the Gunpowder Plot aren't going to search around mansions in the Midlands in the off-chance that they will find a couple more tidbits hidden in the priest holes.--Kudpung (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The difference in our approach to  the Hindlip article is probably (from  my  point  of view) that the county  of Worcesteshire, although  hardly  heard of outside the UK, is probably one of the areas most saturated wiith early English  history. It's in the centre of the country so any  north-south or east-wsest  traffic practically has to  go  through  it, and it  is home to  some of the greatest  and most  navigable rivers in the country. Its forests were the traditional hunting grounds of kings for centuries, and the area is full of stately  homes (country  mansions), many  of which are over a thousand years old. The Hindlip article is an article about a house - not  about the Norman Conquest, the Civil War, or the Reformation - articles for those subjects already exist. If the history  of England is in some way  significantly  involved in these large country  mansions, the general  trend in all  encyclopedias is to  provide a brief mention, and let  the reader decide if he wants to  follow a link  to  English   history instead of reading  about  the architecture. Likewise, our English history  articles do  not  launch deeply  into the architectural and other structural  merits of a building  when discussing the military strategies of  Cromwell's  Battle of Worcester; but  they  do provide a link  to  the houses for anyone who  wants to  know about their priest  holes. You'll see that I write a lot about  education in the WP. But I  do  this without  describing  the desks and pens the students use to  write with. I also write a lot about  meridional French wine, but  I  would be severely  criticised by  my  peers if I were to  launch into  lengthy descriptions of the architecture of the farm buildings where they are made. The extension of this analogy is that when I am writing  book  about  the architecture of medieval castles in  France, I only  give a fleeting  mention of any  wine that's made in them nowadays - if any. However, I am open to any  other points  of view, and ready to learn.--Kudpung (talk) 20:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Layamon
Don't be surprised at the title 'Layamon', you  probably  never had anything  to  do  with  this article. However, if you have time, please take a look, and particluarly at  the discussion  page. It illustrates perfectly the points I was trying  to make about Hindlip Hall -  and rather than upsetting  people by  editing 'their' articles, I would like to  be able to  interpret better som of those incredibly  vague and ambiguous Wikipedia guidelines. After several years of Wikkying, I seem to be becoming  a worse rather than a better editor, and if that's the case, then it's time for me to  bow out.--Kudpung (talk) 05:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Wright of Derby
There are a number of works by Joseph Wright of Derby in | this new Sotheby's catalogue. And a portrait of him... - PKM (talk) 03:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Alderwasley‎
What edit war? I can't see one in the history. Jeni ( talk )(Jenuk1985) 21:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

If you look at Alderwasley Hall School or search my talk page and archives you will see a long list of edits over the definition of this school. The edits have now moved to the village... Victuallers (talk) 21:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There has been no evidence of any edit wars in this article, full stop. I can't see any clause in WP:SEMI which justifies the protection of this page. For which reason I request that you remove the unjustified protection from this page. Jeni  ( talk )(Jenuk1985) 22:01, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm quite happy for you to remove the protection. I have no view on what the article says I am just trying to stop a documented dispute. I'm not sure why there is no clause that allows it... I don't have strong views on this. Victuallers (talk) 22:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't remove the protection, I am not an administrator. Jeni  ( talk )(Jenuk1985) 22:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm off to bed. Other admins can reset it for you if its important if not then we could look again tomorrow Victuallers (talk) 23:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Anchor Church Derbyshire‎
Thank-You for your help on this page & have found most of your edits useful, although I am a Bugger for using "&" over and & I love my American spelling Options, use of English & Grammar. I was intending to add a section to the Anchor Church page on the Graffiti & maybe something about the BlackPool other than that it’s over. BTW as a “lad” we used to spend the night here & get drunk, hence the interest… Thanks again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tentheagle (talk • contribs) 11:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

City of London School
Hi Victuallers. I have some time during the summer and I would like to help in significantly improving the article, City of London School. I've noticed that you do alot of work in assessing school related articles and so I would be grateful if you could point out what this article would need in order to achieve at least Good Article status. Thanks. Tbo 157  (talk)   14:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll post a note on the project talk page. Thanks for your help.  Tbo 157   (talk)   16:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Town Clerk of London
Hello, Would you be so kind to look at Town Clerk of London? Any suggestions? Jrcrin001 (talk) 02:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Crispijn van de Passe
Thanks for starting Crispijn van de Passe. - PKM (talk) 03:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Schools in Worcestershire
Within the scope of our project, I have now completed a first pass through all the the school articles in the county. I now intend to work  through  them and improve them as best I can. I have read everything on  schools in the Schools Project, and followed up  on  a lot of other Wiki guidelines, example school AfDs, etc, and for the purpose of this mission  I  have joined your School  project. When going through  all  these Worcs schools I  noticed that many  do  fall very  short of Wiki criteria for inclusion. I do not particularly  want  to overkill and PROD or AfD these stubs as I am very much in favour of improving rather than deleting. My usual  practice is to leave a friendly  message on  the creator's or major contributor's talk  page that  the article needs urgent  attention. However, before I invest time in cleaning up these 50 or so articles and stubs, I would like some advice on the best policy to  adopt according  to  the Schools Project  criteria - I  don't want  to  invest  time and apply  my  local  knowledge on  these articles if they  are likely to be AfDd later by someone who is more trigger-happy than I am. You can see the list  HERE with  an overview of my  first  actions and comments. Please reply on  the Worcs project  talk  page if you  can at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Worcestershire. Many thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 07:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not very active at schools so please ask there as well... however - Secondary schools are quite safe, there is ploicy but they are normally kept if sent to Afd. Primary schools are usually deleted. Alumni and history obviously make a big difference. Vandalism can be an issue so you may need an admin who can help take the "Mr ???? is a ??????" out of the articles or at least put semi protection on them which usually outlasts the vandals attention span (c. 3-4 hours) :-). I would invest time on the schools that do have a history and especially if they have a local editor to assist. Hope that helps Victuallers (talk) 14:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Reconsidering
The problem is that the template is used at the bottom of articles, which is already after the refsection. In general, such templates can not have references. The only way out (and I speak from experience) is turning the footnote into text, adding [1] and [1] Footnote text. But in this case I would not add this reference at all. I fail to see that it adds anything that is needed. Debresser (talk) 16:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I found it at the bottom of Francis Tresham while doing my regular wikignoming. If it would be moved up above the references section there, then you could surely restore the reference in the template. Debresser (talk) 16:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Anchor Church Derbyshire

 * Thanks for the Recomendation, it made my daySteve Bowen (talk) 11:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW I notice that you have some Great Shots on FlikR

WikiProject Worcstershire
Hi ! I am including  you in this message because your previous comments on  various issues have been most  helpful. Since the recent creation  of the Worcestershire project, several  editors are making  a concentrated effort  to  improve the articles and the overall  coverage of the county. Many of us are learning  as we go and since some of these issues regard Wikipedia and/or parent  project  policy and how we should interpret them,  it  may  be a good idea to  discuss them with  a view to  obtaining  a consensus before we do  things that  may  be wasting  our time, or undoing  the work  of others. Please refer to these discussion items in particular: and join in the debate on  the Worcestershire project  talk  page. If you would also like to  join the project  as a member, please do  not  hesitate to  do  so -  we need all  the help  we can get. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 06:33, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Worcestershire
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Worcestershire
 * Wikipedia talk:Navigation templates (users Brian Kenedig, Pavel Vozenilek)

OS elections
are happening at simple. Very best, NonvocalScream (talk) 20:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ludwik Zamenhof/Esperanto/high school
Hello there. More photos (three exactly) to come... just haven't finished posting them. Yes, I've noticed right away that you created a new English stub and used my photo. I'm very glad you did :) Back to the school. Well, I'm afraid that Polish article about VI High school is a bit chaotic and lacks good, reliable sources. And I'm not surprised. It's a shame that as graduate of that school, I too have some doubts as to the exact date when the school was founded. Guess it's because different sources give different facts. On the school's website (unfortunately its contents is only in Polish language but here's a link) it can be read that the tradition of the school reach as far as to 29th November 1915, when The Polish Real College (as Realschule was called in Poland) was created. Today when I was taking a photo of the school I've found an information board which states that the building was erected in 1831 and since the mid 19th century there was a regular school. During the time Ludwik Zamenhof attended the school (for a year, although it wasn't written when), it was a technical college (the photo of the board I was and still am going to post on commons so you can read a bit more). On the other side I've also found that he was attending the school between 1869 and 1873 (no. 8 - Zygmunt August Gymnasium) and that makes at least four years! I took it as my point of honour to work more on Polish article about VI High school (Ludwik Zamenhof and my former school :) ) so I'm going to dig a bit deeper and reach for more reliable sources. As soon as I find something more about the subject I will let you know and will be more then happy to help you. Best regards -- Simpledot (talk) 20:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK
I'm not quite clear on who exactly updates these things, as it is all rather confusing - so if you are not the correct person, I apologise, perhaps you could tell me who is, or notify them?

I have voiced concerns over DYK tag censorship, in Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know - at the end of that thread.

Thanks,  Chzz  ►  22:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Image map
Hi Victuallers,

I found your image map, Template:Emancipation Proclamation draft, interesting in that one can click to go to a specific biography of someone in the painting, but frustrating as well, since it seems to provide no direct mechanism to access the image file page. Is there a way to provide the increased functionality but still allow direct access to the image file page? Thanks, Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello Vic, do you know what happened to Neadyseagoon? He has not been online since June? I hope it is nothing serious. Regards. Taksen (talk) 06:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK List
Thanks for the 25 DYK award. Have I misunderstood the list. I took it that it is a combination of the articles written with and without DYKs awarded. Rosser Gruffydd 21:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK medal
Thanks for the medal, was beginning to think I was invisible. Have just nom'd what will bring up my 100th creation/expansion. Have you seen the suggestion I made at Wikipedia talk:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs re the 500 medal. I haven't got the tools to design it but was thinking emerald green would be a good colour, perhaps similar to the 200 medal but with an additional bar. What do you think? Mjroots (talk) 13:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Doodle Jump
I wouldn't normally do this, but you promoted this article to the DYK queue. It was subsequently featured on the main page in this state. If you have a read through it, I'm sure it will be apparent that that version of the article has terrible prose and tone issues; it is a mess. I've since tried to improve it, but it's still in quite a poor way. I don't mean to criticise, but rather ask that a more careful check is done in future. You DYK guys do a lot of hard work thanklessly, and you are to be congratulated for that, but we really must make sure what is presented on the main page is of the best quality. Best of luck, — Anonymous Dissident  Talk 13:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Bentinck
There's a very brief mention on the Bolsover DC website - 'The small settlement of Bentinck Row lies very close, but separate, to the north' (of Shuttlewood) -  http://www.bolsover.gov.uk/docs/shuttlewood.doc   (MS Word doc). Odd it's not on the OS maps though. Bobschops (talk) 21:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

alderwasley
mate can you stop doin that plz it blocks my freedom of speech 84.67.163.27 (talk) 20:08, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism at DYK
Please be careful when approving and promoting a nomination in a single step. For example, in these two edits, a plagiarized article was promoted to DYK. The plagiarism refers to the article and not the hook, therefore just changing the hook could not address the underlying issue. (Besides which I'm not sure adding the word "access" addresses the hook-specific issues.) Shubinator (talk) 03:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you can fix the issues raised at a nom, then fix them and propose a new hook, and wait for someone else to verify. This ensures that everyone's concerns are met. If the nominator hasn't fixed the issues, and they were brought up days ago, noms should be deleted instead of promoted with issues. I'm not sure if your question Surely that is the purpose of the DYK queue? refers to T:DYK/Q or T:TDYK; it is the purpose of T:TDYK. Yes, all parts of the DYK process take time, and hook assembly is not fast. Verifying nominations is part of the DYK process, and by promoting them without verifying, the process is not allowed to run its course. Shubinator (talk) 17:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

"Sinner Saved"
Thanks for finding and uploading the William Huntington pic! A forbidding looking chap indeed. <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 14:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Good stuff: I've put him on the watchlist and will try and add what I can over the weekend. <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  14:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Trabzonspor (women)
Hi! Thanks a lot indeed for your contribution in wikiediting. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK submissions
I've responded to your queries on Talk:Sir Isaac Coffin, 1st Baronet. I've also set out why the gazette notice for Lawford at Copenhagen does not invalidate the hook, at Talk:John Lawford. I wonder if you could give these a look over to see what you think? Benea (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK The Quietus
Hi, I've updated the hook per your request and would like a revisit. Cheers. RB88 (T) 22:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Right. Had a bash. Let me know if you agree. RB88 (T) 23:38, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Michael Lobo DYK
Hello Victuallers. This is not a copyright infringement. Someone has just tagged it with Copyright infringement. Slumdog102 (talk) 13:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The basic claim is that the material has been plagiarized from Daijiworld source. The fact is the entire contents of the material on that site has been written from a DOC resume file which Michael Lobo sent to Daijiworld. The original copyright holder of the material and the contents is Michael Lobo himself and not the site. He himself sent the same DOC file to me. I still have it. He has given me full permission to use the contents. So, this cannot be considered as plagiarism. Slumdog102 (talk) 13:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyway, the OTRS team will take nearly a month to check the ticket. So, forget the DYK. Slumdog102 (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * He did write it himself? Oh ... Victuallers (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No he didn't. Slumdog102 (talk) 14:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Then he doesn't own the copyright then .. Victuallers (talk) 14:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This is about plagiarism:

Source says : ''Michael Lobo was born in Mangalore on September 12, 1953 at the ancestral home of the Bijai branch of the Lobo Prabhu family. He is the great-great grandson of Lawrence Lobo Prabhu (1805-83), a distinguished jurist of his time, and the donor of the site of St Aloysius College. His father, Camillo Lobo (1907-71), was an engineering graduate of Imperial College, London, who later joined the British-Indian army, and served with distinction in Egypt and Italy during World War II.''

Article says : ''Michael Lobo was born on September 12, 1953 in Mangalore to Maisie Lobo (née Fernandes) and Camillo Lobo, both of Mangalorean Catholic origin. Michael's father was an engineering graduate of Imperial College, London, who later joined the British-Indian army, and served with distinction in Egypt and Italy during World War II. Michael's mother's family had migrated to Kallianpur (near Mangalore) from Divarde, Goa in 1740. Michael's great grandfather Lawrence Lobo was a distinguished jurist of his time and the donor of the site of St. Aloysius College in Mangalore.''

Is this plagiarism? How can ordinary facts of Michael Lobo's life like being born here/visiting this school/father/mother be copyrighted? I have never copied verbatim word to word from source. You can compare both. I hope you are understanding Slumdog102 (talk) 14:24, 23 September 2009 (UTC) Its about copyright. You are allowed to copy material word for word if there is no copyright. I don't think this discussion is going to be constructive. There is a procedure, wait for it unless you have real new information. Victuallers (talk) 14:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Testing
I'm confused by this link... Victuallers (talk) 14:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for the ping. BrainyBabe (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I spoke too soon. I can't actually see it. Can you provide a link? Thanks BrainyBabe (talk) 15:54, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for troubling you. I was trying to tidy up the messy Bukhara article, which was top-heavy in certain sections. I hived off History of Bukhara and thought it worth bringing the new article to wider attention. But you are right, it is still  not up to standard. I won't be pursuing it further, as I have no special access to sources. Thank you for your time and attention anyway.  BrainyBabe (talk) 14:58, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK
I've added you to the prep area. I decided you do get credit for William Huntington, since copy-pastes aren't eligible for DYK. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 209 FCs served 13:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Eparchaean Unconformity
Hi!

I have seen that you have changed the title of the artcile. It is fine. Thanks. But the article, which was till three hours ago was seen in DYK talk page is not seen there. It is also not seen in the Queue under the reviewed list or in the preperation area. What is the situation of its review and acceptance or otherwise? Is it possible to clarify, please?--Nvvchar (talk) 17:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

test
Halloween is here Victuallers (talk) 19:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * By timely coincidence, I've spotted some possibilities while researching other stuff. In a place called Itchingfield, near Horsham, the preserved skull of Sir Hector Maclean (no article, but mentioned briefly here) was found wedged into a tie-beam in the roof of the church more than 100 years later: St Nicholas' Church, Itchingfield needs writing.  Also, more tenuously, the severe anti-Salvation Army rioting that carried on for much of the 1880s in Worthing was perpetrated by a mob calling themselves the "Skeleton Army" ... hmm.  Never written a riot article before; should be fun!  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  20:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Help:Reviewing Article
Dear Victuallers, as you are a member of WikiProject Schools; I would like you to request to review the article Dhaka Residential Model College. I have nominated the article for WP:Good article status. This article has gone massive editing by me. So could you please assess the article? If you think the article is eligible enough for WP:GA status then please list it on the good articles, otherwise give me constructive suggestions. I hope you will consider my request. Please inform your thoughts on my talk page. Thanks, Tanweer Morshed (talk) 16:31, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Florence Kahn (actress)
Hi, I've been trying to find an alternative source for this claim but many of my books are in storage at the moment, including all my Beerbohm section. I remember reading this claim in a couple of them but cannot remember which; nor can I find an alternative source online. Jack1956 (talk) 17:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

For consideration
Hi Vic. Prompted by this, your recent comment and this RfA nom from Mifter, I will be putting my thoughts/comments together on Mifter's talk page in the next couple of days. Your thoughts and comments on my thoughts and comments, as it were, would be appreciated. Cheers, <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 22:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Finally, I got it all typed out. Plz see here for my thoughts.  PS Should be getting stuff tomorrow at the library for that "Skeleton Army" business in Worthing, so the article might appear soon (once I've thought of a title!).  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  18:49, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Halloween DYK
Your comment "do think about one for Halloween" on my talkpage actually did inspire me to write an article and nominate it, Abezethibou. Thanks for the little push. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 09:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Victuallers!
Thank you Victuallers, I truely appreciate! <font color="Orange">PHG  Per Honor et Gloria 18:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Halloween
Hi! Thank you so much for your note the other day about doing something for Halloween. I have no real ideas at this point - especially as we don't celebrate here in Australia nor in Trinidad where I was raised. However, I was born in Canada and certainly loved Halloween as a young child - and, as it was my father's birthday, it was always special for me. If you have any thoughts about what you might do and if there is any way I could be involved, please let me know. I am happy to contribute if I can find a way. (Maybe the idea that it provides a forum for children to come to terms and actually enjoy "scary" things? Or, as some sort of counterbalance to the norm?) Cheers, John Hill (talk) 22:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I appreciate your encouragement to create Halloween DYKs but really a lot of people cannot be forced to write about a subject they are not interested in. I have never celebrated Halloween, where I live it has always been an excuse for mischief and evil, so I would rather that you didn't try to prod everybody to create articles about Halloween after posting the DYK tags. I can see how some people may enjoy Halloween and find it a source of amusement or fun but I perrsonally don't see anything amusing about kids begging or threatening you for goodies and people throwing eggs and flour, blatant vandalism and using Halloween as an excuse. Thanks. Himalayan   10:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the "appreciation"... but where did the rest come from? Who is "forcing" ... who is "a lot". Using words like that completely undermines any sensible arguments that might have followed. I'm not feeling grumpy thanks, so I don't want to discuss how bad things are not nice.... which I'd worked out anyway. If you have a well researched piece on poor Halloween behaviour that doesn't quote anecdotes then this would be welcomed. Victuallers (talk) 13:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear
I forgot Wikipedia rule #145252242: check whether the article exists first. Tsk; at least I have some useful sources to expand it a bit though! Still, I could write about "devil's doors" – a feature of some Sussex churches, through which he escaped after leaving the baptised child's soul...! <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 19:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and there's a really spooky/creepy gravestone at St Mary's Church, Walberton, so I'll look into that. There's a pic on Geograph.  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  20:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Q3
Queue 3 is missing a bracket on the botdo template. Cheers,--<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants <font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27 ( c |  s ) 20:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Oath Keepers
Hello: I wrote an article that is one month and 10 days old about the Oath Keepers. Is this a suitable candidate for the Did you know... section? I have polished the article to a point which I think is acceptable for public viewing. Varks Spira (talk) 23:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

"Frightening" pictures for Hallooween
Would this DYK nom be suitable? No offense if it's not :) --Bruce1eetalk 09:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Ernest Archdeacon
Hello Victuallers, Could you please give me some advice about images for the Ernest Archdeacon article. I included a gallery (of links) to his 1904-1908 images Image gallery of Archdeacon projects which are at 'ctie.monash.edu.au'. Are these images Public Domain? Can I use one or two in the article? Many thanks. Autodidactyl (talk) 09:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Many Thanks. Autodidactyl (talk) 16:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for putting the DYK update on my Talk Page. I will look around and see if I can make a Halloween DYK, Thanks So Much! Have A Great Day! Lord Oliver  The Olive Branch 02:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks! My 103rd DYK so far :). Ironholds (talk) 02:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Full Circle Song
Thanks for the heads-up but about "Full Circle Song" appearing in the DYK section of the first page on October 19 but I've just had a look and can't see it on the main page. I've also checked the queue page and it doesn't appear there either. Maybe this is normal and my DYK factoid will appear on the main page in the coming hours, I dunno but I just wanted to check. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 12:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

HOWL!-oween
A big werewolf "awooooooooooo!" shoutout to you for doing all this great work with the Halloween DYKs. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:31, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Stephen Fry
I've read Making History too, it's great. Fascinating. You go to Chellaston School, don't you? Wow, the things you can find out on the internet. I do too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.58.22 (talk) 08:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC) No, my daughter does, do sign in? ...

Additional Halloween DYKs
There are three slots on P4, and three noms left in the "approved" section. Two are Sinhalese demon DYKs, the third is mine (which I should not self-approve for addition to the queue). Now, I did two DYK noms in the past 24 hours (The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud and Eroto-comatose lucidity) which could be added to the Halloween area, to see if anyone could review them tomorrow. That way, instead of two Sinhalese demon articles in P4, we might have a greater variety of topics. I realize I'm guilty of self-promotion here, so I leave it up to you or whomever you might like to nudge to make these sorts of decisions. I'm perfectly willing to move either "St. Cloud" or "Eroto-comatose" into the Halloween consideration section for review. (I hope makes sense.) - Tim1965 (talk) 01:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Advice about possible spamming
Hi Victuallers, sorry we haven't met before but I'm writing to you for advice or perhaps to engage you in your admin role. You routinely welcomed User:Rootmarm to Wikipedia almost exactly a year ago (no concerns there - that's just how I found you), and I just noticed what appears to be a pattern of spamming by that user. I first became aware just now, when I noticed that they had added an external link to a couple of pages that I watch. Taking a look at their other contributions, they seem to be almost entirely composed of additions of this specific external link to dozens of pages. Is this something that is best addressed with a simple warning regarding spamming and possible WP:COI, or does this warrant some sort of massive revert? I'm more of a gnome than active editor, so I'm not sure of the proper response. Thanks for any guidance you can offer. -- Scray (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Different format?
Does the Sirius DYK ref need to have the full reference inline? Isn't the short form appropriate here? Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. I'm definitely going to use that "DYKREF" tag in the future... given all the flak I get 8-| Maury Markowitz (talk)

A Barnstar

 * I didn't start it, just copped the barnstar that hadn't been awarded in a while from a dormant existing project. I'll try to drop barnstars off for people who contributed hooks today or tomorrow. Thanks again for all the hard work. Geraldk (talk) 18:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Q2
Just spotted that the template is missing a closing curly bracket, which might affect the Talk page taggings. <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 22:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Tulsi Vivah, Kartik Poornima, Prabodhini Ekadashi DYK
Please put in 2 Nov (Kartik Poornima) day as it is the last day on which Tulsi Vivah can be performed, with "celebrated today" in hook. Also please verify and add Kartik Poornima, Prabodhini Ekadashi DYK on 2 Nov. Thanks. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 03:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Can you please crosscheck Kartik Poornima, Prabodhini Ekadashi DYK too, scheduled for 2 Nov.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that Queues for 2 Nov are free, please add the Tulsi Vivah DYK in it. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thamks. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:13, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Tulsi Vivah is a ceremony rather than a day, it can be performed any time between Prabodhini Ekadashi (11th lunar day in Kartik month, 28-10-09) to Kartik Poornima (Kartik full moon, 2-11-09) - references in lead of Tulsi Vivah, but the most important days for Tulsi Vivah are Prabodhini Ekadashi, the 12th lunar day (29-10-09, requested day) and the last day - 2 Nov. The Hindu marriage discussions in a household traditionally start after performing the ceremony. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Reference to prove Kartik Purnima is on November 2 for both hooks.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Chauchilla Cemetery
23,000 hits! Victuallers (talk) 08:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Message
If I can, but can you clarify what are you asking me to explain? HeartofaDog (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * continued on my talk page.HeartofaDog (talk) 15:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again
Thanks again for all the extra-spooky spectacular work you have done on the Halloween DYKS! - Tim1965 (talk) 20:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Halloween 2009
Yes, I know you already got one... but doesn't hurt eh? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, great work Vic! I was going to give you a barnstar myself, but you already scored two :) Gatoclass (talk) 06:55, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

100
Thanks! From what I recall you've been supporting my work from early on, and personal comments like the one attached to the medal mean a lot more than the medal itself :). If you need any help with legal/political/historical articles, give me a poke and I'll see what I can do. Ironholds (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
Hi Victuallers

Thanks muchly for the barnstar for my work on Greville -- that was very kind of you.

It wasn't actually the first time I did this. See this one from 2006, where I got the Oireachtas Members Database corrected ... tho in that case I didn't raise the initial query. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK Notice
Thanks for all your hard work on DYKs. Six more, and I'll reach 100. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Giles Hussey
Hello! Your submission of Giles Hussey at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

Hello! Your submission of James Gabriel Huquier at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Materialscientist (talk) 11:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Medal
Hi!Victuallers.

Thank you very much for the centenary DYK award. You have all along been a great supporter of my articles, tolerating my many limitations. --Nvvchar (talk) 13:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK award
First off, thanks for the medal, much appreciated! :) As for deputizing, perhaps a notice on the DYK pages that any user with over 25 DYKs (i.e. who is on the WP:DYKLIST) could award the necessary medals would suffice. As it is, it is not exactly clear who is authorized to give them out. Cheers, Constantine  ✍  14:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Indeed, it was somewhat self-contradictory, wasn't it? I was merely suggesting that you, as one of the DYK admins, would be better qualified. No probs though, I'll take your advice.. :) Constantine  ✍  13:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Sussex Martyrs
Hi Vic. Yes, I've got a few sources to hand on the Martyrs and subsequent shenanigans: pp65–68 of An Eccentric Tour of Sussex and pp38/39/83 of A Sussex Miscellany refer, but there's a lot more out there as well. There were 17 in total during the 16th century, although the 10 burnt in the main incident in Lewes are the best known. The first was a chap called Deryck Carver who I have been meaning to write about for a while ... he's a redlink on one of my Brighton church articles. His story is particularly interesting. Three others were martyred up at East Grinstead in 1556 as well: John Foxe wrote about them in his 1800-page book, and Martyrs Farm in Crawley was named after them (appropriately enough I've been working on Listed buildings in Crawley this evening). Anyway, feelings were running quite high in Lewes, so after the Guy Fawkes business about 50 years later the two things got mixed up together and the cult of the Sussex Martyrs became established. The Lewes bonfire celebrations were based on a combination of the two things, broadly speaking – the Bonfire Boys latched on to the ill-feeling caused by both. Any remaining bad feeling really came to an end when the council put up a memorial to the 17 on Chapel Hill (Lewes town centre) in 1901. A Sussex Martyrs article would be desirable ... something I may think about starting in the medium term. <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 19:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Someone has to do "Is Crawley Creepy"? Victuallers (talk) 09:09, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Fifty DYK
Thank you very much for the medal! I really am honoured that my contributions have been noticed. I'd be glad to help with giving out medals as much as my free time allows. Thanks again and all the best, Todor→Bozhinov 08:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Help against vandalism
I'm sorry, but could you please help me with this user? He's totally out of control, moving pages and acting like he owns the place. When I tried to open a AN/I notice to stop him, he opened one against me in return, when I tried Administrator intervention against vandalism, he did the same. What should I do?--Nero the second (talk) 13:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I know there are many articles, but that's the only one I significantly contributed to since I joined, so seeing it being destroyed by some vandal who contributed nothing to it makes me feel I wasted my time.--Nero the second (talk) 14:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the 25 dyk medal! Geraldk (talk) 16:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK reply
I replied to your comments on the DYK nomination here.

Thanks!

--Mcorazao (talk) 21:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for the medal.radek (talk) 09:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alfred Seale Haslam
Hello! Your submission of Alfred Seale Haslam at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Calmer  Waters  16:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

re:25 .... 29 DYKs
Hi Victuallers. Thanks a bunch for the medal, I really appreciate it and the nice comments. Yep, my interests are varied, although as you might notice pretty much all war-related. Oh, and I'm horrible at taking wiki-breaks, gonna try and get back to RL soon, I've just got a few more edits to get done... And thanks for teaching me a new English word. :) Manxruler (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Help
hi there, the RAJUK Uttara Model College has gone through a major makeover and i think it passes B-class criteria but hasn't received any ratings yet. will it be possible for you to rate the article and provide suggestions? thanks Souvik.arko (talk) 05:36, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Help/Suggestion needed for St. Mary's School, Kuala Lumpur
I find that the school has an interesting history - there was a period when it comprised kindergarten, primary and secondary education. Actually, I'm not sure how to edit it at all. (Please read the article a lil' bit before proceeding) SMK St. Mary (secondary education) is the main article, but SK St. Mary (primary education) isn't notable enough to get its own article (I think?), but it might deserve a section of its own in the article, considering they were one?

At some point I hope to see this up DYK but I'm completely inexperienced in this, and the criteria for DYK seem unfavourable to the article since it's pretty old and hasn't gotten a threefold expansion in short time.

On another note, I'd love to make this a decent article, but I'm quite at lost on how to get references with limited reliable results on Google. (edit: oops, this can be done much later when I start focusing on the other sections, haven't been free enough to write on the School site, Curriculum and Extracurricular Activities sections.) Thanks in advance, your suggestion will be appreciated. — <font face="comic sans ms">Yurei -<font face="comic sans ms">egg <font face="comic sans ms">tart 06:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Big Max
Heh, all that searching for a free image and I've just discovered that I took one myself last year. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 19:19, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Coton
Thank you. Everyday, 7 people or less from all around the world, seize the opportunity to read about Coton. :-/ Regards Chienlit (talk) 21:17, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * WooHoo, Coton in the Elms, Coton in the Elms, so good they named it twice. Now it's an incredibly popular page. :) Chienlit (talk) 20:46, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, now I understand the 125 visits in one day. Flatts farm was on QI. :) Chienlit (talk) 21:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Nada Mazher
this article should definitely not be deleted. I dont understand why regualar people are not allowed to be on wikipedia, why not?? They have all done something well, this person helped design the mona lisa, what proof do you have that this person did not design the mona lisa? Nada Mazher is truly a great artist, i do not know the artist personally, but this person has been in the newspaper 28 times, despite being 13 years old! so, again, why not? just answer that, and if i recieve an acceptable explanation, i shall think about what i typed here. The article is: Nada Mazher —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuda786 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Your imagemap at Lullington
Please be aware that we have shamelessly copied your idea in Ireland and it is now spreading like wildfire.

Sarah777 (talk) 21:39, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

London meetup
Hi, Meetup/London 29 has been postponed a week - hope you can still make it.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  20:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Getting JTS on the front page near xmas.... I'm in!!!
Hi, Very cool that JTS move so quickly into a solid article. I'll pull my references together and share with you. Best regards Gohens84 (talk) 02:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Brocksford Hall
Greetings... whoever you may be ? ! Sorry to see you were 'unimpressed' with our recent edits of said site. Rest assured, as a former 'Brocky' our intentions were honourable. As one has mentioned to our co-editor (!) Peter I Vardy... there be little else to add. Only the founding year of the school (1942/3/4/5 ?) be unresolved. Will look into that. As for moi... as geeks go one be little more than a virgin ! Am still finding / floundering our way round! Cheers ROBERT TAGGART (talk) 23:15, 24 December 2009 (UTC).

Re: 100 DYK
Thanks for the medal, Victuallers! I've really enjoyed the DYK process, and plan to follow through to 200 and beyond! — <font color="#C0C0C0">Hunter <font color="#595454">Kahn  ( c )  17:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Victuallers. I am doubting that these are indeed British representatives (blue jackets on white trousers, uniforms exactly similar to the French representatives?), inspite of my initial source for the picture. Futhermore, it seems there were no British representatives in Teheran in 1808 (maybe only Harford at the end of that year). Would you have any opinion on the subject? Cheers <Font color="#FF0000">Per </Font><Font color="#FF8000">Honor </Font><Font color="Orange">et </Font><Font color="#FFC000">Gloria</Font> ✍  14:18, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's tricky when you think your source is wrong, but it is your only source nonetheless... I hope I will discover other sources on the subject oneday, either to confirm or infirm the claim! In the meantime, I left it there. Cheers. <Font color="#FF0000">Per </Font><Font color="#FF8000">Honor </Font><Font color="Orange">et </Font><Font color="#FFC000">Gloria</Font> ✍  16:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Image mapping
Amazing stuff with the captioning, I hadn't seen that here before. I notice that #[your ID] appears in a couple of place, was that supposed to link somewhere? Btw, you linked 'another place' three times - maybeit should link from the "works' section, but I'm inclined to turn a blind eye to the advertisements ;-) Regards, cygnis insignis 19:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Isaac Crewdson
Happy New Year Vic. I'm snowed in, hence lots of time for wiki-work. Interesting chap; he has an ODNB entry, but it's disappointingly thin. The only useful things I could add were birth, death and marriage dates. Everything else was as per the other sources already quoted. Never mind! <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!) 00:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Fox
Vic said: British quakers .... Do you have access to any extra info on Samuel Fox (1781-1868)? I see you edit the page on Milligan's British quaker book. Thx anyway Victuallers (talk) 13:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * And after Vernon39 had added a bit, Vic said: Thanks for your prompt help. Do you agree that Sarah Jowitt was his wife... any other details of his birth?
 * I was hoping you might be intrigued to see if "your" book could identify biogs for the missing quakers in "my" painting Victuallers (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Vernon39 said: Hope that the material that I have added is useful and that the re-ordering with subheadings makes sense. I have put some citations from Ted's Dictionary . .  on the Talk_Page.
 * In relation to the Anti-Slavery picture, I am not clear what your question means. The List on the picture page includes "Jonathan Blackhouse" which should surely be "Backhouse" (but not Jonathan Backhouse the banker - ggfather).  Vernon White  . . . Talk 20:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Vic said .... if you move your cursor over the picture you should find lots of quakers .... most have articles ... but some have no history. Are they unnotable or like Samuel Fox do I just need to find some details? I'll look at the talk page ... Victuallers (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Fox's marriages

 * Vic said :Thx Vernon. You wrote "In 1810, he and Sarah Jowitt (1787-1827), the younger daughter of Thomas Jowitt (1760-1789) were married. After her death, he was married to another Sarah Jowitt (born Storer, 1762-1799). There were no children from either marriage."
 * Did you mean another Sarah? Or was there really a second Jowitt? cheers Victuallers (talk) 20:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Vernon replied: Yes, two Sarah Jowitts. That is how I understand Ted Milligan's entry for Saml Fox. Seems improbable - need to check more. Vernon White  . . . Talk 22:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Slavery group portrait
Information
 * Description=The Anti-Slavery Society Convention, 1840, by Benjamin Robert Haydon (died 1846), given to the National Portrait Gallery, London in 1880 by the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society. Oil on canvas, 1841. 117 in. x 151 in. (2972 mm x 3836 mm). See source website for additional information.

Quote from the description at the National Portrait Gallery website:

This monumental painting records the 1840 convention of the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society which was established to promote worldwide abolition. A frail and elderly [Thomas] Clarkson addresses a meeting of over 500 delegates. [...] Haydon later wrote: 'a liberated slave, now a delegate, is looking up to Clarkson with deep interest ... this is the point of interest in the picture, and illustrative of the object in painting it, the African sitting by the intellectual European, in equality and intelligence'.

Identified persons in this portrait (based on National Portrait Gallery description) follow. For an image map showing the location of each person in the painting, see en:Template:Anti-Slavery Society Convention 1840.


 * Abraham Beaumont (1782-1848)
 * Amelia Opie (1769-1853), Novelist and poet; second wife of John Opie
 * Anne Knight (1792-1868)
 * Anne Isabella Byron, Baroness Byron (1792-1860), Wife of Lord Byron
 * B. Godwin, Baptist preacher
 * Charles Edwards Lester, American abolitionist
 * Charles Stovel, Baptist minister and abolitionist
 * Charles Stuart, abolitionist from Jamaica
 * Constantine Richard Moorsom (1792-1861), Vice-Admiral
 * Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor, American abolitionist
 * Daniel O'Connell (1775-1847), Irish politician
 * David Turnbull
 * Dr Murch
 * Edward Adey
 * Edward Baldwin
 * Edward Barrett, Emancipated slave and abolitionist
 * Edward Smith
 * Edward Steane
 * Elizabeth Pease
 * Eton Galusha, American Baptist minister
 * Francis Augustus Cox (1783-1853), Baptist preacher
 * G.K. Prince
 * George Bennett
 * George Bradburn, American abolitionist
 * George Head Head
 * George Stacey (1787-1857)
 * George Thompson (1804-1878)
 * George William Alexander (1802-1890), Treasurer of the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society
 * Henry B. Stanton
 * Henry Beckford, Emancipated slave and abolitionist
 * Henry Sterry (1803-1869)
 * Henry Taylor
 * Henry Tuckett
 * Isaac Bass (1782-1855)
 * Isaac Crewdson (1780-1844), Writer
 * Isaac Hodgson (1783-1847)
 * J. Harfield Tredgold
 * J.H. Johnson
 * Jacob Post (1774-1855), Quaker
 * James Carlile (1784-1854), Divine
 * James Dean, American abolitionist
 * James Gillespie Birney (1792-1857), American abolitionist
 * James Mott, American abolitionist
 * James Whitehorne
 * John Angell James (1785-1859), Independent minister
 * John Beaumont (1788-1862)
 * John Birt, American abolitionist
 * John Bowring (1792-1872), Linguist and traveller; Politician and diplomatist
 * John Burnet (1789-1862), Pastor of Mansion House Chapel, Camberwell
 * John Cropper
 * John Ellis (1789-1862), Railway promoter
 * John Howard Hinton (1791-1873), Baptist minister
 * John Keep, American abolitionist
 * John Morrison
 * John Scoble
 * John Steer (1780-1856)
 * John Sturge
 * John T. Norton, American abolitionist
 * John Woodmark
 * Jonathan Blackhouse
 * Jonathan Miller, American abolitionist
 * Joseph Cooper (1800-1881)
 * Joseph Eaton (1793-1858)
 * Joseph Ketley
 * Joseph Marriage (1807-1884)
 * Joseph Pease (1772-1846), Reformer
 * Joseph Reynolds (1769-1859)
 * Joseph Sams (1784-1860), Orientalist
 * Joseph Soul
 * Joseph Sturge (1793-1859), Quaker and philanthropist
 * Josiah Conder (1789-1855), Bookseller
 * Josiah Forster (1782-1870)
 * Louis Celeste Lecesne
 * Lucretia Mott (1793-1880), American abolitionist
 * M. L'Instant, Haitian abolitionist
 * M.M. Isambert (sic), French, lawyer and abolitionist
 * Mary Clarkson, Daughter-in-law of Thomas Clarkson
 * Mrs John Beaumont (1790-1853)
 * Mrs Rawson, Sheffield campaigner
 * Mrs Tredgold, British South African
 * Nathaniel Colver, American abolitionist
 * Peter Clare (1781-1851), secretary of the Literary and Philosophical Society of Manchester
 * Professor Adam, American slavery abolitionist
 * Richard Allen (1787-1873)
 * Richard Barrett (1784-1855)
 * Richard D. Webb
 * Richard Peek ex Sheriff from Devon
 * Richard Rathbone
 * Richard Robert Madden (1798-1886), Writer
 * Richard Sterry (1785-1865)
 * Richard Tapper Cadbury (1768-1860), Birmingham manufacturer
 * Robert Forster (1792-1871)
 * Robert Kaye Greville (1794-1866), Botanist
 * Samuel Bowly (1802-1884), Quaker and anti-slavery agitator
 * Samuel Fox (1781-1868)
 * Samuel Gurney (1786-1856), 'The Banker's Banker'; philanthropist
 * Samuel Jackman Prescod, abolitionist from Barbados
 * Samuel Lucas
 * Samuel Wheeler (1776-1858)
 * Saxe Bannister (1790-1877), Pamphleteer
 * Sir Edward Baines (1800-1890), Journalist
 * Sir John Eardley Eardley-Wilmot, 1st Bt (1783-1847)
 * Sir John Jeremie (1795-1841), Colonial judge
 * Sir Thomas Fowell Buxton, 1st Bt (1786-1845), Philanthropist
 * Stafford Allen (1806-1889)
 * Stephen Lushington (1782-1873), Judge
 * T.M. McDonnell
 * Thomas Binney (Benny) (1798-1874), Nonconformist divine
 * Thomas Bulley
 * Thomas Clarkson (1760-1846)
 * Thomas Clarkson, Grandson of Thomas Clarkson
 * Thomas Morgan
 * Thomas Pinches
 * Thomas Price
 * Thomas Scales
 * Thomas Swan
 * W.T. Blair
 * Wendell Phillips (1811-1884), American abolitionist
 * William Allen (1770-1843), Chemist and philanthropist
 * William Beaumont (1790-1869)
 * William Bevan
 * William Boultbee
 * William Brock (1807-1875), Dissenting divine
 * William Dawes, American abolitionist
 * William Dillworth
 * William Fairbank (1771-1846)
 * William Forster (1784-1854), Quaker philanthropist and minister
 * William James
 * William Kay
 * William Knibb (1803-1845), Missionary
 * William Leatham (1783-1842)
 * William Morgan
 * William Smeal (1792-1877)
 * William Tatum (1783-1862)
 * William Taylor
 * William Wilson


 * Date=1841
 * Author=Benjamin Robert Haydon (died 1846)

Looks like this justfies a WP article. Because of this picture, all the sitters become "notable", in my view. This item at Friends House Library, London looks helpful:
 * An annotated diagram of Haydon's painting of the great meeting of delegates held at the Freemasons' Tavern, June 1840, for the abolition of slavery and the slave trade throughout the world with Thomas Clarkson, President and a list delegates with numbers, according to their position in the picture. An article copied from the Sunday Magazine, 1865]. - [S.l. : s.n., 1865?]. - 1 board : ill., ports. ; 44 x 30 cm.

Vernon White '''. . . Talk''' 23:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK
I commented at your DYK nomination of Isaac Crewdson. Ucucha 08:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I replied there. (By the way, I watch all discussions on T:TDYK I participate in; your message at my talk is appreciated but not necessary.) Ucucha 10:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Cheers for dropping by and bidding me welcome. I'm not exactly new around here but today was my first real attempt at creating an article instead of just adding edits. I think I'm slowly getting there Rachelcgen (talk) 11:21, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Collaborate??
I was watching a television program on historic barns in my state (Wisconsin), and the first barn was a housebarn. I see that there is no article on the topic and I'm working on one in my sandbox. Am I correct when I assume that there is no article on the topic - or is there a British English article equivalent under a different name?

You're in a better locale to find some content since they originated in the British Isles, Western Europe, and Scandinavia. Wisconsin was settled by immigrants from many areas with many from Germany and some from the Scandinavian countries. There are only a few housebarns remaining the in the U.S. Would you like to collaborate on a DYK article by expanding in my sandbox? I'd like to do a double nom with the Lutzke Housebarn (on the National Register of Historic Places [the American equivalent of Grade Listings]). I may get a picture of this housebarn. That housebarn was the first barn in this documentary.  Royal broil  04:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Glasites
Was it your intention to add a Wikipedia page on Benjamin Ingham (18th century English Minister)? The link you provided in the Glasite article highlights in red when the page does not currently exist.CUoD (talk) 15:25, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Victuallers, thanks for your help and introduction to DnB.CUoD (talk) 18:27, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I redirected your link to go directly to the DNB article. If this was not your intention please let me know.  Thanks again! CUoD (talk) 19:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I was hoping you could revisit the Glasite article, as I added material based upon Sandeman's final journey to America. My style differs from the original author, and was hoping my fingerprints were not too noticeable. Four months ago I could not find much on Benjamin Ingham. While I linked to the DnB article directly, it might be worthwhile researching that story when time permits as more sources now are available. CUoD (talk) 22:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Samuel Fox (1781-1868)
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DYK nomination
Please watch out! I fear you may have edited an older version of the page or something, your last edit to the DYK nominations page removed several days worth of approved hooks. Staxringold talkcontribs 17:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yikes! Lowes Cato Dickinson ate 123KB of content.  Think I have fixed everything now, though.  I shall keep the trout in the fridge for now.  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  17:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I smelt the trout.... no closer please... I am repentant Victuallers (talk) 18:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Vic said:
Two points - William Forster ... could this be William Forster (philanthropist)? Also ... any info on who begat Samuel Fox (1781-1868)? thx Victuallers (talk) 13:22, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

REPLIES

William Edward Forster
No, WE Forster was the son of WF (philanthropist) Vernon White  '''. . . Talk''' 16:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Fox (1781-1868)
Ted saith: Samuel Fox (1781-1868) was born on 24 November 1781, the son of William Fox (1746-1874) and Mary, his wife (born Procter).

William Fox was born at Nottingham 30.x (December). 1746, son of Samuel Fox (1725? - 1791), flax dresser and Ann Fox, (1716?-1791).

He became a grocer And flax merchant in the town. He married in 1781 Mary Procter, daughter of Thomas Procter of Selby and Mary Procter. He was of Nottingham at the time of his death in April 1820. Vernon White '''. . . Talk''' 17:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Club
Thankfor the message. The bust is probably meant to be the bust of Michelangelo that Reynolds owned, but it's rather badly depicted. I don't recognise the small round painting. Of course the poses of the figures are also derived from Reynolds' portraits. Paul B (talk) 16:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Glasite and Benjamin Ingham
Was hoping you could find time to review these please. Time permitting of course...Thanks...CUoD (talk) 02:35, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Joseph Huddart
Hello! Your submission of Joseph Huddart at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Thelmadatter (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Distinguished men of science of Great Britain 1806-7
Template:Distinguished men of science of Great Britain 1806-7 needs disambiguation, see the talk page. Josh Parris 15:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Spondon
Cheers !... for your 'support'. Two other editors have conspired to 'silence' moi... will they try it on you ? 'MAJ' complains about our grammar. One was once taught grammar... grammar shrammer said I ! 'FAV' complains our additions read too much like a tourist brochure (FAV/talk) realy ? Oh... while we be about it... your introduction mentions your place of abode (well, roughly)... have you any links with 'Brocky' or 'Sponny' ? ROBERT TAGGART (talk) 14:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not taking sides Robert, I think its a bit silly that it has got to this point. A bit of compromise on both sides I think. There is an etiquette to wikipedia that I can see you are struggling with.... e.g. you have no talk page? (don't say you don't agree with talk pages.... reread prev. section instead) This is a collaborative project. We need to collaborate and if we can't then compromise. If you still fail then work out if it is really important....this is only a website. If its still important .... then an admin can help. Victuallers (talk) 15:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Coalite
Cheers - Almost looks presentable in the photo unlike the tip it is today. So actual photos can be used from that Gegraphic site now then ? As used to find links to that site spamed all over some articles as inline ELs that made the pages a mess. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:48, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

barrow upon trent prot?
Hi Victuallers, did you intend to protect the talk page or the article page? You protected the talk, which isn't where the libel was going on. :) Syrthiss (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

what silly stuff?
what do you mean "silly stuff?" the only thing i think is silly right now is some of the references because i'm having trouble figuring out how to reference a source more than once without having the same source listed multiple times in the reflist. if that's what you're referring to, i'd really appreciate some help in learning how to do that, i looked at the tutorial and couldn't quite grasp it. if that's not what you meant, what do you think is "silly" about the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanemannion (talk • contribs) 15:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC) also, why did you undo my referencing? i am doing this for a project for an english class, and i need to have sources accurately listed, which they were... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanemannion (talk • contribs) 15:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of James Cumming
Hello! Your submission of James Cumming at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Smallman12q (talk) 21:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Siege of Leith
Thanks, I er, wrote it mostly off the top of my head actually. It is a tricky subject as there was so much going on at that time, conflicting interests, people changing sides. Its all very internecine. I'll see what I can dig out at home, there might be enough to hang a 'hook' on, but cant promise a great deal in the short term. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 17:19, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, done what I can. I should have thought of the Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland, so wel done for finding those. I weent through Harris again for more and also found another old GOogle book and some bits from Fraser's Mary Queen of Scots, I think its now fleshed it out quite well. Somerset was in charge during the Rough Wooing but died in 1552. Lord Grey de Wilton was the English commander in the field, under the Duke of Norfolk. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 14:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hungry Bentley
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Talkback
Smallman12q (talk) 00:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of James Cumming
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DYK nomination of Cécile DeWitt-Morette
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Thanks
Cheers and thanks for helping out my students on their John Wright project. You all did brilliant work together. And btw, I think the page should be bumped up to at least C-class, wouldn't you say? Redcknight (talk) 17:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

South Leith Parish Church
It's here. Nice one. Don't forget to move it back into the normal queue with diff hook if it's not used - shame to waste it.--Storye book (talk) 11:39, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Erskine Clarke
Hi - I had a quick look and found several references to St Michael's - registers etc, but nothing current and so moved on. The misdeed of Rev Thomas Twist here amused me. The impression I get is that St M's was in the centre and Alvestoke originally a chapelry. This Flickr is said to show St Michael' Derby here. Probably worth investigating. Didn't think of the Derbyshire WP - you can claim it if you like - Regards Motmit (talk) 19:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * According to my parish register index there are registers for St Michaels from 1559-1958. Didn't know we could just lift photos like that Rgds Motmit (talk) 20:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I picked up from the web site that part of St Michaels collapsed in the year when Clarke arrived. I wonder if it was before or after he arrived, and whether the reopening of the church was a spur to producing a parish magazine. Probably needs a lot more diggin' but it is another interesting angle. Regards Motmit (talk) 18:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just that. Thank you - very kind!--Storye book (talk) 20:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Ditto.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 22:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Urani Rumbo
Thanks for uploading the photo of Urani Rumbo, I wanted to upload it myself but I wasn't sure about the licensing.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 11:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Also thank you for adding the appropriate info on the Drita (magazine) article. --sulmues talk contributions 14:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll make the change. Actually all about Drita magazine was written by me. It was initially Drita in 1884 and then brought to Dituria. It must have restarted as Drita in 1904, but I am not sure, the sources that I have are not very reliable. --sulmues talk contributions 14:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually just found out that it's still kicking. Improved the article thanks to you! --sulmues talk contributions 14:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Koto Hoxhi
You just wrote the article that I have been wanting to write for a long time, and did it very very well. However I made some changes, hope you agree with them, could you please review when you find some time? Thanks again! --sulmues talk contributions 15:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I made some edits in Koto Hoxhi and I hope you don't have a problem with them Victuallers and Sulmues.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * They are fine with me. I have found in Victuallers a fantastic contributor. --sulmues talk contributions 20:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Any possibility that you review this article?
Ismail_Kadare I have made some contributions there, but writers are not my forte. --sulmues talk contributions 20:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Very good edits, thanks! --sulmues talk contributions 13:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Victuallers, can you please have a look at my created articles? I would like you to tell me which one of them would attract you to contribute to, so that it goes to DYK as an article on which we work in common. If you don't find anything interesting, can you point me to articles you would like to work on? Thanks! --<font style = "color:white;background:navy;">SulmuesLet's talk 19:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lorenzo Latorre
I apologise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.39.82 (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Alt-text
What is this crap about alt-text "being required by US and UK law"? There is currently no requirement for alt-text to be used even in FAs, since it has turned out we we were doing it wrong all the time, & I strongly object to this instruction creep. Johnbod (talk) 22:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Point me to the legislation where it is "required". And how much better informed will a blind person be after finding that a picture by a marine artist shows some boats on water? Johnbod (talk) 03:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Low Walworth and Gin gang for double DYK
Just letting you know that I have written the article you requested, so now the DYK entry needs to be reviewed again for a double. Thanks for the idea - didn't know there was so much info online.--Storye book (talk) 19:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for the DYK award - your kind comments are very much appreciated!--Storye book (talk) 18:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK medal thanks
I really appreciate the 100 DYK Medal, especially coming from someone that I worked with so much. I really respect you and all that you have done here, too! Your wording was hilarious - incorporating both the April Fools' Day part plus the racing terminology - brilliant - BRAVO.  Royal broil  23:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK medal
Thank you very much for the kind words and the barnstar. I'm thrilled to have it, and I'm definitely going for the double ;) Thanks again, Yazan (talk) 05:29, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Drita (magazine)
We are co-authors. I am not familiar with DYK, but what could be added to the article to be nominated? You said 200-300 characters, correct? Anything else? It could go to DYK as "The oldest-still-published-Albanian magazine". Btw, under which "DYK that" did Koto Hoxhi go? -- Sulmues talk   18:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Your French engineers look good. Drita's link is not working anymore. It's a pity, because instead, a blog is appearing instead. Afraid won't make it to DYK because of that. -- Sulmues talk   17:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Any chance that you look at this guy Dritëro Agolli and upload a pic? You're so good with commons. -- Sulmues talk   17:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Comment on T:TDYK
I don't understand your comment on T:TDYK regarding the tropenmuseum. Would you mind restating your comment? We could make the image File:Tropenmuseum_-_Logo_zonder_tekst.svg which is one of their logos? <I>NativeForeigner</I> Talk/Contribs/Vote! 00:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Adelsteen Normann
A tag has been placed on Adelsteen Normann requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Shashwat986 (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK Piber --heading for backlog
Hi Victuallers, I noticed that you review DYKs and commented that you don't get all that many horse articles. Here's another: Would you care to take a peek at Piber, which I nominated for DYK on the 11th and is about to be buried in the backlog? Thanks. Montanabw (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Deal! Drop me a line to pinpoint where they are and I'll take a peek!   Montanabw (talk) 17:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Antonio Barluzzi
Hello! Your submission of Antonio Barluzzi at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

DYK for Crucifix (horse)
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to check out and pass this article.Cgoodwin (talk) 01:16, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Adelsteen Normann
Hello! Your submission of Adelsteen Normann at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Storye book (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Not your fault - I reckon the image is free but just needs a different licence. Have a look and see what you think.--Storye book (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Tyrannobdella rex
Nice, thank you! :) De728631 (talk) 18:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Lakeview College
Hi there. The Lakeview College article itself says -

In September 2006, Chilwell governors made the decision to make Lakeview College entirely managed and taught by Chilwell staff by September 2008.

So therefore is it is NOT a sixth form college, it is a sixth form department of a secondary school (even based on the same site, same name, same management). I just changed the categories to reflect that. Bleaney (talk) 20:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK Nom for Fily Dabo Sissoko
Thanks for doing this: I'm glad the contribution was interesting to others. T L Miles (talk) 17:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

User:JamAKiska/Griffith Hughes (naturalist) request for review.
Greetings! Hope all is well with you. Have finished above article and was hoping you could review prior to movement into mainspace, when your time permits. Thanks. I would say volume 28 has a dent in it, which is where I am heading... :^) CUoD (talk) 16:01, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I will keep my eyes peeled for pithy quotes and the like in the future. I am pleased that you find the article worthy of comment.  No objections on this end.  As for 28, the end is near... CUoD (talk) 10:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi. I agree with the proposed change, and leaving it published as is...go with the flow.  Cheers. CUoD (talk) 15:02, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Could not find article so renamed it to Griffith Hughes. I like the reformat with his bio included in the outline...it makes for a better presentation.  Thank-you!  CUoD (talk) 15:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Victuallers's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:02, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :-)

Griffith Hughes
Congrats on the above. It's not often I run into an editor with his own day- on the very day! I came to the Hughs article via St. Davids and copyedited the article. The prose seemed a bit old fashioned to my taste, but ... Any chance you can identify "Caernarvon, Newtown, Lower Providence, and Evansburg" a bit further. I assume that they are all in Pennsylvania, but they had a lack of imagination in their naming back then, and many names are repeated. I could probably track down the right ones, e.g. is it Newtown Square, Pennsylvania (where St. David's is technically located), or Newtown, Pennsylvania. Caernarvon and Evansburg are probably in the Welch Barony, not too far from St. Davids, but "Lower Providence Township, Pennsylvania" could be almost anywhere!

BTW - please send the article to DYK. Smallbones (talk) 14:25, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * For an editor on his day ... I'm not having a great day ... this article is not mine. It belongs to User:JamAKiska ... I loaded it due to an error. It may disappear for a few days see User:JamAKiska/Griffith Hughes (naturalist). Victuallers (talk) 14:39, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I may have thrown a wrench into the works - it appears that he left Pennsylvania in a hurry, followed by an audit. This would not quite fit with WP:BLP if he were still alive, but I think it is worth mentioning. I may check DYK and suggest an alternative. Smallbones (talk) 17:39, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Griffith Hughes' signature is at the top of the audit, any way to get a copy? There are several Hughes in the congregation, to include the treasurer, who also, incidentally, was involved with Griffith Hughes on his land purchase in Berke county (those two tracts mentioned that were forfeited due to inaction on his part while in Barbados).  Unlike Wikipedia, that assumes good faith, Cummings' Report, seems to be motivated out of frustration, and presumes guilt, on the part of the one that got away. Food for thought...CUoD (talk) 19:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * At a risk of offending the Welsh then I have to say that they are not known for their range of surnames. I have joked that welsh birth records look as if they are photocopied from one or two original pages. ie, There will be a large number of Jones, Hughes, Morgan, Williams, Griffiths. ie, do not assume other people called Hughes are close relatives. 17:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Imagemap in Tribuna of the Uffizi
The imagemap was not recognized because it was included without tags... I will improve the script in order to avoid this problem. Thanks a lot for reporting! -- Basilicofresco  (msg) 09:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, the main problem was that I was not aware of this exotic alternative syntax for imagemaps: now the bot is able to detect it. The second and least important problem was the mistake it attempted to fix: the wrong commas at the end of the links. I performed a check and Template:The Tribuna of the Uffizi was the only page on en.wikipedia affected by this rare problem. -- Basilicofresco  (msg) 16:05, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fily Dabo Sissoko
Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Griffith Hughes
Materialscientist (talk) 16:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Hook for Patrick Manogue
Done. He sat on the bishop's chair which also could wikilink to Cathedra. Actually, I kind of like a miner sitting on that better. Will change again. --Morenooso (talk) 02:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, is the button on your userpage reserved just for you? I like it and it could keep me busy looking at DYKs on my userpage where I'd like to have it as a similar button. --Morenooso (talk) 22:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Question on English Monarchs Family Tree
Thanks for your welcome.

I have been looking at the English monarchs family tree and have found a number of errors. Because the tree is represented by a number of images I have had a go at converting to SVG files as requested on the File page. I have now completed this but before I upload I would like some guidance. As far as I can ascertain there is no direct source for the family tree. There is a lot of individual information to enable a family tree to be built and which is already contained in numerous articles in Wikipedia most of which have appropriate references. It could therefore be argued that what I have done is original work. The current images claim to be sourced from the royal.gov.uk website but I cannot find anything there that looks like these images. I believe that family trees are helpful so do I upload and risk the problem of no references or leave things as they are?

One of the family tree images has an image map called Victuallers so I am guessing that you had hand in this. The SVG files I have created are of similar width and height to the originals so I would expect to create new image maps.

Any help you can give me would be appreciated. Please do not hesitate to ask for further information.

Bill Oversixty (talk) 10:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded three SVG files to Commons which after a few conversion problems are ready to go. I have added a section on Talk:English monarchs family tree informing of the replacement of the files. The converted png images do not match the existing size but I do not think this will be a problem. This is the link to the first file which includes links to the other files. Please let me know if you think I should be doing anything else.Bill Oversixty (talk) 09:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Colonel Mordaunt's Cock Match
Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC) ... about 24,000 hits! Victuallers (talk) 06:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Troubridge
Thanks for your clearance at DYK. Unfortunately the picture you added to the article is not this Troubridge, but rather his grandfather, the naval officer Sir Thomas Troubridge, 1st Baronet! Thanks anyway, its an easy mistake to make. The National Portrait gallery has some images of this Troubridge interestingly enough - here. Benea (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Trongsa Dzong
Thanks so much for including me on the list for this DYK - but I really did very little - others deserve he credit. BTW - what an impressive number of excellent DYKs you have done! Congratulations! Cheers and all best wishes, John Hill (talk) 07:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination on May 9: Breslov Research Institute
Hi, thanks for bolding the page title for me (I've almost gotten the directions right!). My nomination has not been looked at, at all, since yesterday. Would you be able to help it along? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK medal and more
You found nice words to pass me a 25 medal and asked for more. Well, I nominated a holiday DYK, five days notice, 3 of those passed without even a question. Anything I should do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The hook mentioned is now approved, hopefully not too late. - Different question: you left a note on my user page (that I don't watch and saw only by chance). Did you mean that I should review DYK nominations myself? So far I was shy to do so as English is not my first language. (Please reply here.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

de Bothezat helicopter
Hi there. Thanks for looking the article over. :) The engines were in fact already mentioned in the prose part of the article, but I added a bit to make that more clear. I also added what little I could find on how the controls worked. Thanks for the feedback! - The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 16:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi & Help
Hiya mate I don't now what a "(pic tic for 10th eagle)" is but it sounds good so thanks... I'm expanding this page & woundered if you had any input ?

complete sentences
Hello. In this edit and an edit to John Howard, I changed the opening sentences into actual complete sentences. You should note that that is required by WP:MOS. Michael Hardy (talk) 02:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC) Well spotted Michael Victuallers (talk) 15:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for George Clavering-Cowper, 3rd Earl Cowper
The DYK project (nominate) 16:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Just checking
Is this your edit (sorry for being indiscrete)? Materialscientist (talk) 06:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hold on then, I'll post some at WT:DYK. Materialscientist (talk) 06:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Francis Ley
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

name signing
how do i sign my name on the new wikipedia?-limited2fan 18:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)limited2fan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limited2fan (talk • contribs)


 * Just happened to swing by by chance and am answering ahead of him. Basically, four tildes (four of these: ~, shift and the key left of the 1/! on my keyboard), is how you sign.  After this comment I actually type four tildes, but you are seeing a signature.  CycloneGU (talk) 23:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Howard (royalist)
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that surprised me, I didn't think I'd done much on it. Regards, Moonraker2 (talk) 01:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Sharp (homeopath)
Hello! Your submission of William Sharp (homeopath) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

I have a minor query with one of your wikiinks. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Strange phone call
Hi Victuallers Just received a phone call from a well-spoken woman asking to speak to Peter Perez Burdett. She repeated the name when asked; unfortunately I didn't recognise the name straightaway, and her number was withheld. Ning-ning (talk) 13:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tredegar Medical Aid Society
Hello! Your submission of Tredegar Medical Aid Society at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

I think the claim might be a little strong in the main hook, unless you can provide another reference -- have suggested an alternative wording. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:28, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Conway
The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Tredegar Medical Aid Society
The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for William Sharp (homeopath)
The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Samual Oldknow
Hi I was looking through edits on Samuel Oldknow and came across yours, it has progressed since but there is a file link to Saml-oldknow.jpg that seems to be dead. (Rovington (talk) 07:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC))


 * article is coming on well (talk)

DYK for William Sharp (surgeon)
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Are you waiting to have your DYK hook approved?
Me too (usually!). Why not spend your time in commenting on other peoples hooks, fixing articles that are "almost right" and/or approving them? Just an idea ... Victuallers (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Denial of Peter
Thank you. History2007 (talk) 15:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC) Welcome Victuallers (talk) 15:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Dermestes maculatus
Thanks for checking it. Joe Chill (talk) 15:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Re William Huggins (animal artist)‎
Thanks for your edits of William Huggins (animal artist)‎. As per my post to the reviewing editor's talkpage in private, I was unaware of any issues. As best I could, I tried to provide veriable online sources that were reliable citations. I feel that I was taken to task in a previous nomination on Sara Zandieh which is why I declined in private to comment on his post on the DYK page. I felt it would lead to hard feelings or even negative views. As a result of futher negative comments I received from another admin on my talkpage about "biting" the article's creator who is effectively doing harmful posts to Zandieh's article, I reminded this different admin that I successfully saved the article from deletion two times and nominated its creator for a DYK. Sorry to backfill you with all this, but I wanted to give you my two cents. moreno oso (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Huggins
I think you should discuss the controversy over Scott's "restoration" at Chester Cathedral at that article and link to Samuel Huggins and the formation of the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings.--Wetman (talk) 23:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

wp-bm mailout list
Dear Victuallers,

I'm writing because you have indicated your interest in the collaboration between the British Museum and Wikipedia currently underway and looking forward to seeing you tomorrow at the Backstage Pass. If you are willing, I would like to add you to a mailout that I will be sending frequently during this month to try and keep everyone related to the project informed of all the activities underway. That way, we can as a group co-ordinate our efforts and get the best outcome in the short space of time. People on the list include wikimedians (London-based and global) and British Museum staff (Departmental contacts and individual curators). It is also a place where, if you have a request or idea you can write to me and I'll pass the information to the group. Finally, it is where any prizes that become available will be announced first.

By way of a privacy policy, I will be using blind-carbon-copy so your email address won't be published if you don't want it to be. I will only share the list of addresses with the executive of Wikimedia-UK and my supervisor within the British Museum.

Would you be happy to be added to this mailout?

Sincerely, Witty Lama 16:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Saltburn Cliff Lift
Thanks for your cite prompt on the Saltburn Cliff Lift article. You were right in your edit summary, I just put in the wrong ref - updated! Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Nereid Monument
Thanks for the message. I'd be delighted to see the article nominated for a DYK, and I will get on with adding cites. Grafen (talk) 10:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

TUSC token baaec4f481e4109671b3378851e35264
I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! reminder p sky quizgo

DYK

 * I've sought to address your concerns here. Tx for your suggestions.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Frederic Shoberl, Forget-Me-Not (annual)
Hello! Your submission of Frederic Shoberl, Forget-Me-Not (annual) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

DYK for Louis Darling
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lois Darling
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Frederic Shoberl
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Forget-Me-Not (annual)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for William Huggins (animal artist)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * This belongs to you for your edits. moreno oso (talk) 06:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Minoan Bull-leaper
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Seax of Beagnoth
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Samuel Huggins
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Nereid Monument
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: The Bandit Queen (1950 film) - you around
Hello, I just redid this one The Bandit Queen (1950 film) and wondered how many characters it needs for a DYK nom. Would you check and then would you nom it? moreno oso (talk) 21:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Holy Thorn Reliquary
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Bassae frieze
Hello! Your submission of Bassae frieze at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

LOC Bain Collection
I see you have been loading them too! I add all the unknown ones to my fave list and whenever I am bored I try and work on them. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 05:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Lothair and Hedwig
Thanks for letting me know! Chasuble (talk) 17:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lothair Crystal
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Henning (1771-1851)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bassae Frieze
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * left you a message on my talkpage (stats section) about this. These DYKs are so cool. As a set it's worth announcing in its own right. Witty Lama 15:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Regarding this one - it doesn't appear that the article Bassae actually links out to Bassae frieze which is I think an oversight because it is the logical place to come from. Ideally Bassae should have a section on the frieze with a "main article" template linking out to the frieze article. Witty Lama 22:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

please contact me
I was wondering if you'd like to be part of another BM event - on Friday 25th. Check GLAM/BM/Hoxne challenge please and see if you'd like to be one of the 10 on-site participants. Witty Lama 22:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC) Thanks, Ive signed up! Victuallers (talk) 22:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Gland to see you there. There will probably be other articles spawned as a result of this (notably the Pepper pot which was in the history of the world in 100 objects) but the main focus will be on the central article - I think it would be a waste if we ended up with a GA and 3 stubs rather than 1 FA. And - what do you mean you've never done a FA? You're claiming 5 FA and 1 GA on your userpage. Witty Lama 22:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Drita, magazines and alphabet
Hello there and thanks for dropping a line! I'm really glad you follow Drita!

Yeah, I'm affraid it wasn't the first magazine in Albanian. Probably it was the first professional magazine, because it dealt with litterary critiques, but in 1887 it didn't have that role. I really don't know which was the first magazine in Albanian, but I already have good documentation about the Pellazgos magazine (1860-1861), page 170, published for a year in Lamia, Greece, by Anastas Byku, and most likely there was something even prior to that.

First magazine in latin alphabet: I am not sure what alphabet was Drita written in (Jacques is not opening for me on page 296, and in p. 290 it's not clear about what alphabet he is talking about), and I don't have sources on that: probably it was the first magazine to be written in the Bashkimi Alphabet, which was a latin based alphabet, and the most advanced of the other two, which still had Greek letters. But it was published in Istanbul, so probably it was using the Istanbul alphabet. I'll have to search a little more. The 19th century was a nightmare of alphabets in the Albanian world as there have been at least 7 or 8 used, with many mixes, see Albanian alphabet. If you read Vangjel Meksi, you will start getting a flair of the total confusion. --<font style = "color:white;background:navy;">SulmuesLet's talk 13:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

As a matter of fact, in the lede I would simply put first scholarly magazine in Albanian for now. It's not for sure the first magazine, and some more clarification is needed on the alphabet. I'll work more on the Albanian alphabet using Xhevat Lloshi (in Albanian) that I used in Vangjel Meksi and then I'll return to Jacques sources, which luckily are in English. --<font style = "color:white;background:navy;">SulmuesLet's talk 13:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Use of semi-protection
I fail to see how semi-protection is preventing disruption by non-autoconfirmed editors on Ode: Intimations of Immortality, Kubla Khan, or Talk:Rebecca Adlington Do these actions really abide by the protection policy? All of them have had virtually no edits by non-autoconfirmed accounts in a long time. Can you please look and see if semi-protection is actually necessary. Thanks. -Atmoz (talk) 15:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've overturned the protection, as I strongly believe it was unwarranted. I don't understand what it was meant to protect and the claim of "excessive sock puppetry" was clearly incorrect. Sincerely, Blurpeace  17:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hoxne Hoard
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100 DYKs
Thanks a lot! I'll try not to disappoint! Cheers, Constantine  ✍  11:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Empress pepper pot
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Seax of Beagnoth
Thanks for that -- I was actually going to ask you to reassess the article's quality rating, but you got there before I had the chance! I am thinking of nominating it for GA, so do you think you could let me know if it is up to standard, and if not, what I need to do to improve it. BabelStone (talk) 15:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Stanchester Hoard
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Review DYK nominations on July 8
Hi there, if you have the time, you might want to review the DYK nominations of 8 July, here. They've been festering for more than 8 days, and no one else is reviewing them. They need to be processed them soon - either remove, or transfer to the queue. Cheers, AngChenrui Talk 09:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Prix Blumenthal
What does that mean, the photo must be PD?842U (talk) 10:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks... what does that mean, though, PD? Public Domain?

Hoxne map
Hi! Did you see on the FAC that the image review commented that File:HoxneMap.jpg should have a scale? Is this possible? It seems to be the only remaining issue. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 14:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh well - can we do it in the caption: "Near to the hoard are a Roman settlement at Scole and an earlier hoard at Eye,X k from the Hoxne findsite. The major road in red follows the route of an older Roman Road (Pye Road)."

Johnbod (talk) 21:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I could probably add the scale to the map - I have the tools - but I'm not sure I have the data. What was the source map you used?

- PKM (talk) 23:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I've got it. Bless Google. Will upload. - PKM (talk) 00:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK comment on Northern Utina
Please see my comment re your recommendation at DYK for Northern Utina. The article was created in user space but not moved into the main space until July 13. Thanks.--Cúchullain t/ c 14:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Norah Neilson Gray
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination
Hello! Your submission of Copper Bull at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! I feel a little silly putting this here on your talk page, but I wanted to make sure you were aware of a minor issue with your nomination. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Justin Godart
Hi Victuallers, I have addressed the concerns you raised for this article's DYK nomination. Thanks, <font color="#3399FF">Arctic  <font color="#000000">Night  11:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Damn...
I've been offline for a couple of days, I was going to do something with your 10x expansion of Broighter Gold at DYK, but I see you've already done it. Maybe I can do something with Mechanical Galleon soon? – B.hotep •talk• 20:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ See here! – B.hotep •talk• 18:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Mechanical Galleon
I changed a sentence. I know that you did have a source saying that this object was lost during the bombing, but almost nothing from the Grünes Gewölbe was lost, it had all been removed and stored. Sources can err.AMuseo (talk) 02:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not have a source on that nativity.  But your source stated that it was lost in the bombing, and while the Grünes Gewölbe was damaged, actually, pretty much destroyed.  But the objects had been taken for safe storage at Königstein Fortress.   Whether the object in question was pilfered, or removed from that collection before the war and lost  in some other way - I have no idea.   Your source, Lisa Nocks, unfortunately doesn't use a footnote. I know only that the authorities at Dresden pride themselves on the fact that the collection survived intact.  Although, of course, it is common knowledge that many of the objects had been sold off by as monarchy went out of fashion and the family fortunes declined.  So the collection was much reduced well before WW II.  The things they still have are amazing.  Worth a trip to Dresden.AMuseo (talk) 11:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is a source that sys that it was "formerly" in the royal collection in Dresden, but was destroyed in 1945.  http://books.google.com/books?id=8bXxHSZkWssC&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=Schlottheim+nativity&source=bl&ots=QebFCJgSqK&sig=_rkuHRvrVfBEObX2jpe_gJHzgi8&hl=en&ei=phpQTKmbIsT7lwf6rpi7CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CCsQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Schlottheim%20nativity&f=false  there is a footnote, to this article   Maurice, Klaus, 'Propagatio fidei per scientias: Jesuit Gifts of Clocks to the Chinese. Court', 1980.   It may have a more definitive answer for you.  I've added the reference to the book where I found this reference.   Since I have not read the Maurice article.AMuseo (talk) 12:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Tregwynt Hoard
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Copper Bull
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wickham Market Hoard
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DYK for Kalulu
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Eunotosaurus.jpg copyright status
Hi, I notice you've uploaded a reconstruction of Eunotosaurus africanus. I was thinking of doing so myself a while ago, but I wasn't sure if it's in the public domain. This is because it is not a US work, being published in Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London (now the Journal of Zoology). As far as I know, public domain in the UK requires the author to be dead for at least 50 years regardless of when the work was first made, but DMS Watson (the author) died 37 years ago. But I'm not sure, maybe you know more than I do about it's copyright status? Smokeybjb (talk) 17:11, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think it's more important where it was published rather than who the intended audience was. Even if it was international, it would still have to satisfy US and UK copyright law. That way, the journal would still hold the copyright. But then again, they may have some special licensing that I'm unaware of. I'm looking at the journal's "Permissions and Copyright Information" page, and I don't see anything that suggests we can use this image. We could request permission somehow, but I'm not sure how to do that. Smokeybjb (talk) 17:36, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * OK I can see that argument. I had been working it out here. I had taken the rationale from seeing that there was a similar picture by the same author on commons. I will remove it off commons and maybe ask the copyright experts. You may have to repair your article Victuallers (talk) 17:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Now that you mention it, the author's other work on commons (Pteronodon2.jpg) was also made in the UK, being published in The Aeronautical Journal, which is published by the Royal Aeronautical Society. It's probably not in the public domain either. Maybe the author's category on commons should be deleted, too, since I can't imagine commons will ever be able to use his illustrations unless some were published in the US. Smokeybjb (talk) 18:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll see what reaction there is the first deletion. I have marked that category with his free copyright date. I think the cat should be there .... and empty if we are right Victuallers (talk) 19:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Seated Buddha from Gandhara
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DYK for Ain Sakhri lovers
The DYK project (nominate) 12:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Swimming with reindeer
I did the honourable thing. I hope you don't mind me doing what others may consider stalking your edits, but your articles are always such fascinating reads, I can't resist. – B.hotep •talk• 22:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

And you'll be pleased to know that two of yours have reached DYKSTATS for August out of four already! – B.hotep •talk• 23:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Three now! BabelStone (talk) 12:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Broighter Gold
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