User talk:Casliber/Archive 61

Range map
Hi CasLiber, can you add range map to Tufted Tit-tyrant and Crested auklet--Anass (talk) 00:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you develop one of this articles to be a featured article--Anass (talk) 01:28, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I am looking at the auklet Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Image
Hi, i think that you can upolad this photo here about Red warbler, it is free--Anass (talk) 10:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks useful. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Peer review request
Hi, I see you've done some very impressive work on GA-FA articles on dinosaurs and animals in general. So I was hoping you could assist us with this peer review on Oxalaia, a spinosaurid article I've been working on for a while and am planning on nominating for FAC quite soon. Help and a pair of fresh eyes would be much appreciated, Thanks! ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼  17:57, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Arbitration request
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DYK for Long Reef (New South Wales)
Vanamonde (talk) 06:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Banded stilt scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Banded stilt article has been scheduled as today's featured article for July 7, 2018. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/July 7, 2018, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:33, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for "a cool Australian bird that's had some really interesting new knowledge about it become known in the past few years"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:48, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Heh cool/thx. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Northern gannet
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Northern gannet you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- J Milburn (talk) 10:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Lionelt's DYK Medal
Hi Cas, how do I get my Template:The 25 DYK Nomination Medal? Does a bot paste it on my talk? Someone on the DYK staff? Is there an awards ceremony on cable? (Kidding.) Thanks! – Lionel(talk) 10:32, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Gannet GAN in progress
I think I've fixed all the listed issues so far except the first, and there's one where I've asked for your opinion, please check Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Northern gannet
The article Northern gannet you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Northern gannet for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of J Milburn -- J Milburn (talk) 18:41, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

FAC
Now it's at FAC, I'm going to stop adding new material unless something arises during discussions there, it's long enough as it is, and if someone wants to know how to distinguish juveniles of the three gannets, we can deal with it then (with difficulty, according to HBW)
 * You may have noticed that I've tweaked the colony list, which at present is ordered vaguely geographically. Should we make it alphabetical, (with Nam at the end), leave as is or wait and see?
 * Are we happy with the lead? I've made it three paras, which I think is the minimum, but is it still a bit thin?
 * I don't really understand these fancy referencing styles, are you able to check that we won't get picked up on anything there?
 * I think there are still places where the pre-existing prose is a bit clunky, and there are bound to be minor grammatical errors and formatting inconsistencies,given that there have effectively been three authors, I guess just keep checking for these.

I'm going to have to twitch an American Royal Tern in Sussex either later today (light until 9.30 pm so near midsummer) or more likely tomorrow if it's still there, otherwise I'm likely to be free to deal with FAC issues as they arise Jimfbleak - talk to me?  05:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Colony list looks fine - arranged according to geography is better than alphabetical.
 * Will look at lead again
 * Will look at referencing so that it is consistent (even if...unusual)
 * Will look at prose.

Good luck with the bird. I'll be trying to see a Norfolk Green parakeet weekend after next. And take my good camera for cool closeups of the masked boobies. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cochlospermum fraseri
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Userpage deletion
Hi Cas. Sorry I missed you at the last meetup; I could only make the night session. Anyway I'm thinking about outing myself. I'm sure there's more than one thing in the history of my userpage I'd rather not be connected to myself, so ironically I'd like that to be deleted before this happens. I had the history of my userpage deleted at least once before (though not since 2012) and I can't actually remember how to go about doing it. You're the first admin that came to mind, so I was wondering, can you delete the history of my userpage and then just restore the latest version? And while you're at it, can you permanently delete User:Freikorp/subpage? I haven't used that page in years and same story there (simply redirecting it would not be sufficient privacy wise). If not, can you direct me to who I need to ask? Cheers. Oh and feel free to add me to the list of people you've met on your userpage if you like. :) Freikorp (talk) 12:41, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * - All done now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:23, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks heaps. :) Freikorp (talk) 00:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 July newsletter
The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:


 * Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
 * SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington

Contestants managed 7 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 120 good articles, 1 good topic, 124 DYK entries, 15 ITN entries, and 132 good article reviews. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 458 GA reviews, in comparison to 244 good articles submitted for review and promoted. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process; several submissions, particularly in abstruse or technical areas, have needed additional work to make them completely verifiable.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Cwmhiraeth (talk), Vanamonde (talk) 04:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Billardiera heterophylla
Hi  I would like to nominate Billardiera heterophylla for DYK. But it probably needs considerable work before doing so. The facts which I find interesting are that it is apparently a popular garden plant in Australia and other places, having appeared in a Jamaican seed catalogue in 1887. Yet it is a complete environmental disaster. So we have it on the one hand apparently winning a horticulture prize in 2013, but recognised as a major environmental threat to wild places in Victoria and South Australia in 2010!! (I was hoping you might help me).... MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:28, 5 July 2018 (UTC)


 * It needs for the prose to have multiplied fivefold since you started expanding it....which is a tall order. Otherwise we can buff it to GA status. Which is a subject I am familiar with...let me look....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Cas. Could be a tall order.  (I clicked the link for the supposed award... Following the intervening time period (?) the link no longer supports the assertion..) MargaretRDonald (talk) 06:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Help
I am being ATTACKED - WP:STALKING and WP:HARASSMENT by this person - User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz for many months, he apparrently hates me and the visual arts. Please get this guy off my back. Thank you...Modernist (talk) 15:37, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please note that a short time ago Modernist was warned by User:NeilN about using invective like this to characterize ongoing content disputes, a warning Modernist has repeatedly disregarded. This comes out of a longrunning content dispute regarding the use of nonfree images of visual art, where Modernist is among those who strongly reject NFCC policy (see, for example, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts, and the related deletion discussions at Files for discussion/2018 June 18 (where many of the disputed uses that Modernist advocated for have already been removed). The underlying issue is whether certain articles on the visual arts are exempt from (or subject to much more relaxed application of) basic WP:NFCC, WP:V, and WP:RS policies. With his side not prevailing in the dispute, he is again personalizing the issues rather than substantively addressing serious policy concerns. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006.   (talk) 16:01, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry Modernist, I haven't anything to offer at this point as it requires time to digest. I'll try when I have some free time over and above some pressing chores. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:35, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks to editors like you who are willing to review articles such as North Cascades National Park and offer excellent suggestions, it is now a Featured Article!--MONGO (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * no problem/a pleasure! I wanna go drive that highway now! I had a great uncle that used to have a cabin in the cascades but it was over in Idaho. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:34, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Its the first article of this depth involving a place I have yet to visit, so look me up and we can travel it together! Best wishes!--MONGO (talk) 20:47, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I haven't been to the states since the mid 90s - I have relatives in Oregon and Idaho and have yet to get to the redwoods. Also my older daughter is keen to see the northern elephant seals. So well overdue for a trip to this neck of the woods. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:48, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

New article, new section and two redirects or not needed at all?
Hi Casliber, I repeatedly want to link the term taxonomic revision or review to clarify its definition, but a page with that title does not exist. There is an article titled Monograph on a topic that is certainly related. I was thinking about the following content: "A taxonomic revision or taxonomic review is a novel analysis of the variation patterns in a particular taxon. This analysis may be executed on the basis of any combination of the various available kinds of characters, such as morphological, anatomical, palynological, biochemical and genetic. A monograph or complete revision is a revision that is comprehensive for a taxon for the information given at a particular time, and for the entire world. Other (partial) revisions may be restricted in the sense that they may only use some of the available character sets or have a limited spatial scope. A revision results in a conformation of or new insights in the relationships between the subtaxa within the taxon under study, which may result in a change in the classification of these subtaxa, the identification of new subtaxa, or the merger of previous subtaxa. "

What do you think? Please feel free to create an article or section if that would be easier than an answer.

Regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Interesting - I think the first thing would be to make it a heading in Taxonomy (biology). I mean if all you want to say can be put in a short paragraph then that is where to start. Something on monograph should be in that article as well. Also, one can link to a heading directly within an article itself. Like Taxonomy_(biology), so there is no inconvenience. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:17, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. I will do that. Dwergenpaartje (talk) 07:50, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK help
I see you do DYK noms here is my DYK nom. I don't know how to nom something can you help me? It's from the newly created Bluebonnet Ordnance Plant article

hook: that the current SpaceX Rocket Development and Test facility was previously used during World War II to create bombs for the war? JC7V7DC5768 (talk) 17:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * replied there Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:09, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK
I fixed up the DYK so I don't know if it approved or not. The Waco History source covers all of it, the other source is a supplementary source. JC7V7DC5768 (talk) 02:22, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not approved yet - follow the instructions on the DYK page Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:01, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Leucospermum praemorsum was upgraded, L. arenarium created
Hi, Casliber, I did some wotk on Leucospermum praemorsum. Perhaps you may want to take a look at is quality assessment. Thanks in advance!

I also created Leucospermum arenarium. Perhaps that could be nominated for DYK. It shifted to pollination by mice, has very viscous nectar that is transported from the base of the ovary to the tip of the flower because the flower acts as a capillary duct. The mice now can harvest the nectar without damaging the flowers. What do you think? Dwergenpaartje (talk) 14:58, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Cool! Will look today Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:02, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Others?
Hi Cas! It looks like we finally managed to get red warbler over the line. Thanks for all your assistance while I was away from my computer! Quick question: I know you're working with Jim on northern gannet at the moment, but would you be interested in collaborating again? I've got a couple of other well-on-the-way species close to throwing to the lion's den. Maybe when you're done with the gannet? I'm thinking chimney swift and Bonaparte's gull probably wouldn't take too much more effort... MeegsC (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , yes collaborations are good. Looking over yours as to which I see has the best chance I reckon...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:31, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Psophodes
Cas....The IOC has split western whipbird into black-throated whipbird and white-bellied whipbird. Ive split the genus article as much as I feel comfortable. Can you have a look at the distribution section and fix accordingly?.....Thanks.....Pvmoutside (talk) 16:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have been meaning to buff those at some point. will look soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:35, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Leucospermum coverage is now ¨complete¨ but improvement is possible
Hi Casliber, thanks for the DYK nominations and the status upgrading.

Leucospermum is a Proteaceae genus, like Banksia, for which you set up a WikiProject. Is there an opportunity there to mention this work? I have now finished all 48 Leucospermum species (only L. winteri as a stub since I cannot get a hold of the original description) as well as expanded the genus article.

I will contact one of the South African Proteaceae specialists to see if he can organise some professional feedback, and upload images of species that are not covered in commons.

I guess the general sentiment is still that identification keys either constitute OR or copyvio. I´m considering making a table of taxa versus characters, with in the cells the character states. The user can choose the order character states are provided and the system could shortlist remaining possibilities. Something like that might be placed on iNaturalist and linked to in the External links section.

Should we try to upgrade some of these articles to make them fit for GAN, and which would that be? What do you think? Dwergenpaartje (talk) 11:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Good question on keys - one could argue against them by saying that wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a guidebook I guess. Maybe buffing the most complete (and easy to complete) Leucospermum species article to GA would be a good idea. Which one you think that'd be? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Difficult, L. tottum has an interesting ecology section. Dwergenpaartje (talk) 12:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, let's look at that one. I need to sleep, but look at spelling and formatting references etc. Compare with, say, Isopogon anemonifolius (one I've improved previously). Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:22, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 * With respect to keys: I don't think it makes much sense for Wikipedia editors to create keys. By all means let us search for them and link to them to articles.   For example, Weed links to two Lucid multi-access keys for weeds: the European key is very limited (140 species), the Australian one is more useful with 1021 species.  There are a huge number of publicly available Lucid multi-access keys (though the best I have yet encountered is "Rainforest Plants of Australia" available as a phone app for circa A$50, which is fabulous value and able to be used while bushwalking...) MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC) P.S. Great news about Leucospermum. MargaretRDonald (talk) 22:35, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Perm question
Hi Cas! Sorry to bother you, but I was looking at the user rights log to check something that I had recently done, and I noticed that you gave +confirmed and IPBE. The confirmed group won't do anything for them since they are autoconfirmed. I didn't see anything suggesting that they had run up against an IP block recently on their talk page or in UTRS, so I was curious about granting that one, since it usually is only given if someone is actually encountering an IP block not intended for them or they have a need to use a VPN. Anyway, thanks for entertaining me on this. Best, TonyBallioni (talk) 03:36, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I got caught up in an IP block once out of the blue. It was very annoying. I see no reason why he shouldn't be IPBE. Re confirmed group....why do we have it anyway still? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Granting IPBE preemeptively is against policy because it allows usage of VPNs and also Tor, which is against NOP and the local open proxy policy (i.e. IPBE that you hand out manually is stronger than the IPBE that admins get included with the bundle, which does not exempt from torblock.) Our local policy on IPBE granting is generally much stricter than the global policy.Confirmed is mainly used these days for alt accounts of established users (though, after WP:ACPERM, we also allow it to be temporarily granted to new users for editathons and the like.) We try to keep it empty mainly for tracking reasons I think. Doesn't hurt, but doesn't do anything and its typically removed once someone has autoconfirmed. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah ok. I ditched those two then. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sorry for bothering you with this, and thanks for all the great work you do for the project TonyBallioni (talk) 14:00, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Request
Hi Casliber, can you create a template for this article for example Template:Monotypic taxon or Template:Mimidae, Thank you!--Anass (talk) 12:27, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The Mimids are not a group I am familiar with, and many bird articles do not have these navigation templates. Maybe someone familiar with them will do it some time. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Serruria elongata
Reviewed Serruria elongata, and all is good but please see this edit of mine for ALT1, and I'll leave it up to you if it's worth giving a try. Otherwise, if source is difficult, or the word "endemic" may throw off a lot of folks who have no clue what it is, or, any other reason you can think about, you may just delete it. Thanks again! --1l2l3k (talk) 14:51, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw that. I don't think ALT1 is catchy. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:54, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, then please feel free to delete it. I'm just leaving it up to you, as I think sometimes prep reviewers want a couple to choose from. Best! --1l2l3k (talk) 16:23, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

King Parrot review
One day it will be that title, or Purpureicephalus spurius! :P

I've got a outside read-through of the article, a couple of obvious improvements were revealed before I got to third point; I will post those to the GA discussion tomorrow (or when I am back from a walkabout). And again, deeply appreciative of the demonstration in expanding an avian article. As a mate of mine here says, "You Rock!". — cygnis insignis 15:47, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Jill Valentine
Hi. I noticed you commented at Jill Valentine's FAC1, which was a long time ago, so I understand if you don't want to get involved again (or even remember commenting in the first place). But JV's FAC3 was dismissed on the basis that I hadn't contacted previous commentators, so I've gone through all previous FACs and "peer reviews" and tried my best to address any issue which had ever been raised. I'm happy with the article as it is now (in that I believe it meets the featured article criteria), but I'd appreciate any feedback from any previous commentator. Is there something I could improve before renominating? Would you be into commenting at FAC4? I'd ideally like to address every issue anyone may have before renominating, so the FAC can be as uneventful as possible. ;) I'd appreciate your feedback, if you have the time. Cheers. Homeostasis07 (talk) 00:54, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort closed
An arbitration case regarding German war effort articles has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

For the Arbitration Committee,
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 * 2) is topic banned from the history of Germany from 1932 to 1945, broadly construed. This topic ban may be appealed after six months have elapsed and every six months thereafter.
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 * 4) Editors are reminded that consensus-building is key to the purpose and development of Wikipedia. The most reliable sources should be used instead of questionable sourcing whenever possible, especially when dealing with sensitive topics. Long-term disagreement over local consensus in a topic area should be resolved through soliciting comments from the wider community, instead of being re-litigated persistently at the local level.
 * 5) While certain specific user-conduct issues have been identified in this decision, for the most part the underlying issue is a content dispute as to how, for example, the military records of World War II-era German military officers can be presented to the same extent as military records of officers from other periods, while placing their records and actions in the appropriate overall historical context. For better or worse, the Arbitration Committee is neither authorized nor qualified to resolve this content dispute, beyond enforcing general precepts such as those requiring reliable sourcing, due weighting, and avoidance of personal attacks. Nor does Wikipedia have any other editorial body authorized to dictate precisely how the articles should read outside the ordinary editing process. Knowledgeable editors who have not previously been involved in these disputes are urged to participate in helping to resolve them. Further instances of uncollegial behavior in this topic-area will not be tolerated and, if this occurs, may result in this Committee's accepting a request for clarification and amendment to consider imposition of further remedies, including topic-bans or discretionary sanctions.
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DYK for Leucospermum arenarium
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Queue/1
Something looks wrong with the bot permission template at Template:Did you know/Queue/1. Could you check? Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 17:17, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * thx for alerting. fixed by someone now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Alpha Centauri -- missing reference
Dear Cas, Back on 2013 October 19 you added a quote to the text of the Alpha Centuri article, referenced to . However, the source of the quote never seems to have appeared in the list of references. Can you recall where it came from? Thanks, Skeptic2 (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I just tried looking now briefly with no luck (RL beckoned). Will try again later today. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:29, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Found it! This is it: http://adsbit.harvard.edu//full/1917MNRAS..77..414K/0000416.000.html. Will you add it to the article? Cheers, Skeptic2 (talk) 08:58, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

questions on Unification of Germany article
Hi, an unknown editor (using only a IP address) tagged the "founding" section of the article because it contained "non Encyclopedic text". I don't know who this person is, and left no indication on the talk page of what exactly he/she considers non encyclopedic text. I removed a citation needed tag in the lead because, categorically, citations aren't needed in the lead when the material is discussed in the article. Could you have a look and tell me what you think? auntieruth (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I think the tagging was a little on the steep side, yet that said, that segment immediately under the tag does veer a little into essay territory. I have to rush off now but I think the text can be tightened a little. I will see if I get a break IRL today. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Ok, I get it - you really wanna let the facts speak for themselves. The article is already long and some material is repeated and points labored. For instance, I removed this. Is any meaning lost by my removal of this much text? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:30, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * that looks fine. Do you think it's okay now?  Sorry to take so long.  RL has its moments. :)  Cheers, auntieruth (talk) 17:04, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Venom and Eternity
Cas Liber, I wasn't sure whether you'd noticed that the QPQ you requested has been submitted (the nominator didn't ping you directly). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You're right, I didn't. Now looking...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Red-capped parrot
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Red-capped parrot you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 11:41, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Should common name redirects for both Vexatorella obtusata subsps. be created?
Hi Casliber, I just created Vexatorella obtusata. It has two subspecies with different common names. The article has a section on the distribution and habitat for both subsps. separately with their common names as title. Should redirects be created or not? thanks for your consideration in advance. Regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 22:29, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * yep. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:55, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Boletus aereus selected as TFA for September 2, 2018
You know the drill. Regards,--Wehwalt (talk) 16:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Also Red-billed tropicbird for the 23rd.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:31, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Coolios x 2 Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:46, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and sadly missed Sasata for the first, a "yummy mushroom"! - A friend has a first FAC open, and it lacks participation. I confess that I also didn't get to Biblical criticism yet, too many composers and recently died to celebrate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Leucadendron salignum
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Red-capped parrot
The article Red-capped parrot you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Red-capped parrot for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 15:22, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Leucospermum praemorsum
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Grey cuckooshrike
Vanamonde (talk) 00:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Bluebonnet Ordnance Plant
Cas Liber, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that your review had been replied to. Just a quick ping in case you hadn't, since they didn't ping you there. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Making maps
Hi. I notice you have made some distribution maps using svg files (for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksia_blechnifolia#/media/File:Banksiablechnifoliamap.png). I was hoping that you might explain how to do this. (My maps are all from point data, rather than coloured polygons, but the svg files are cheaper to load...) MargaretRDonald (talk) 00:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There are various blank maps on commons. There is a link in the description of the rangemap to a blank map template used. Then get an authoritative source with map data (HANZAB, monograph, FoA etc.). And then draw it on using a drawing program Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 September newsletter
The fourth round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The eight users who made it to the final round had to score a minimum of 422 points to qualify, with the top score in the round being 4869 points. The leaders in round 4 were:


 * Courcelles scored a magnificent 4869 points, with 92 good articles on Olympics-related themes. Courcelles' bonus points alone exceeded the total score of any of the other contestants!
 * Kees08 was second with 1155 points, including a high-scoring featured article for Neil Armstrong, two good topics and some Olympics-related good articles.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, with 1066 points, was in third place this round, with two featured articles and a good article, all on natural history topics.
 * Other contestants who qualified for the final round were 🇲🇭 Nova Crystallis, Iazyges,  SounderBruce,  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Kosack and 🇺🇸 Ceranthor.

During round four, 6 featured articles and 164 good articles were promoted by WikiCup contestants, 13 articles were included in good topics and 143 good article reviews were performed. There were also 10 "in the news" contributions on the main page and 53 "did you knows". Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best editor win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations and good job!
I just took a look at Boletus aereus and food it to be wonderful. Congratulations on one of your newest FAs! Best Regards, Barbara ✐ ✉  18:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Aw gee thx! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cocoi heron
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Sydney meetup
There will be a meetup in Sydney on the 12 of September. More info at Meetup/Sydney/September 2018. Bidgee (talk) 10:00, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Serruria elongata
Hello! Your submission of Serruria elongata at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for The Great God Pan
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * A confusing diff, but great article: kudos. The story is a seminal gem in its own way. cygnis insignis 14:35, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I just nominated as a drive-by. I have read some Arthur machen and enjoyed same. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Machen is hard work for many modern readers, we recognise where it is plundered and improved by later authors; better to read the potted synopsis in Supernatural Horror in Literature and see what worth the time. — cygnis insignis 15:46, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Re: edit Low is referring to marri (Corymbia calophylla), their staple diet, you might have been misled by my accidental use of another name, red gum. cygnis insignis 00:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Kimberley death adder
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK Nomination for Pelargonium peltatum
Hi Casliber, Hope you are well. I have done some work on the article about Pelargonium peltatum. I was wondering if you would again be willing to nominate a page for DYK. The hook I would like to propose is ... that Willem Adriaan van der Stel introduced the ivy-leaved pelargonium (Pelargonium peltatum) from South Africa to the Netherlands already in the year 1700. The illustration I’d like to propose is an excellent aquarel that was already painted in 1701! Thanks for your efforts, regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 10:59, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * interesting...ok Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:18, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Cortinarius caperatus scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Cortinarius caperatus article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 12, 2018. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/October 12, 2018, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:29, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for "an esteemed edible mushroom from Europe"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Eucalyptus exserta
Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * why thx! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:18, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Microscopium scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Microscopium article has been scheduled as today's featured article for October 31, 2018. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/October 31, 2018, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for another good one, "Onward and upward - this is the next in a bunch of constellations that are being buffed"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Serruria elongata
Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you for your share of Red-billed tropicbird! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

WP:FAC Mentor Request
Hi Casliber! I found your user name on the list of willing WP:FAC mentors, specifically that you are interested in sports-related articles. If you are still willing, I would be interested in being your mentee. I have some WP:GA and WP:FL experience, but never taken an article to FAC. The article I am currently most interested in moving forward is Packers sweep. Let me know if you are available and still interested. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 14:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:17, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Langer's Deli
Cas Liber, a QPQ review has been submitted for this nomination, which was what you were waiting for when you reviewed it. When you get the chance, can you please stop by and see whether you're satisfied with what's been provided and continue/conclude your review? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:23, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

P. spurius eggs
The article is nearly there, but someone asked about the number of clutches and broods, this source Storr (1991) says two. Or five. There is an explanation of the notation at page 7, para 3, of what "C/ 4(2), 5(5), 6(2)" signifies for Platycercus spurius at page 77. If you use the source, note that the isbn and issn are tripping an error I can't resolve, you may want to leave it out. FWIW, note also that Storr used that available name in the Handbook of WA birds (2001), already cited in the article. Have a good one — cygnis insignis 17:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The weird thing is it's not cited in HANZAB....so was it speculative or what? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:02, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, then perhaps they decided to avoid any mention because it is not confirmed. Whitlock, a reliable field worker, found a second brood after robbing the first, but this is not conclusive in itself. A double brood is certainly recorded in captivity, to a polygamous male as it happens, this is given in Shephard's Aviculture in Aust. with a citation to an article on the species 'The King of the West' (1987) in an Aviary journal. Storr's enigmatic notes above are not repeated in his Handbook of WA (2001). Aside from HANZAB, the only important reference I have not seen is the Serventy article, if he did not mention brood numbers I guess there is nothing to add. cygnis insignis 17:13, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * A definite maybe lacking a source. FWIW, Tom Carter also reports the possibility of a second brood, cited in Nests and Eggs of …

""I have never taken their eggs, but on the 26th October, 1908, I was shewn a nesting cavity about four inches in diameter, and thirty feet from the ground, in a very large green tree, which apparently contained young birds. On the 24th November, 1908, this same tree was felled, and one fresh egg was broken in the fall. Perhaps it was a second laying. On the same date a tree containing a nest with half-grown young was felled.""


 * I think this is at Albany–Denmark, in the company of the unnamed robber of eggs and banks Whitlock, but I might have that muddled. I am informed that they do not like us, people that is, something about eating their eggs gave rise to some early mistrust, but removing their homes, shooting or trapping and deporting them is in the mix now. So it goes. — cygnis insignis 08:59, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Speckled brown snake
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Acacia shirleyi
Thanks for your input, I can't seem to find anything on the origin of the species name - Is there any mention of it in the books you were using? Cheers and keep up the good work. Hughesdarren (talk) 11:23, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Found it! Just had to trawl through a Google search for a couple more pages!. Hughesdarren (talk) 11:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Cool! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:39, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Pelargonium peltatum
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Removal of your contribution to Sven Manguard's user page
Hello, I'm Rebestalic.

I was casually looking at the RfA preparation essay, with no intention to become an administrator (I've been here for 60 days(!)), when I clicked on some advice for failed RfAs. The author of the advice was a user named 'Sven Manguard'. I visited their (probably 'his', but we'll never know if they're using a fake name) user page. Below his farewell message, I saw a comment that was attributed to you.

I think it is perhaps more respectful to the fallen Wikipedian if that comment wasn't there... since you're an Administrator now, I don't think that line has any use anymore, anyway.

(183,062 edits!!! Well, you definitely don't have Major Depressive Disorder. No offence to people with the condition; I can tell it feels terrible. Gee mate, 900+ edits on a single page? You're a legend.)

Keep calm and keep on jamming in those contributions. Rebestalic (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Err, which page was my comment? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Okay i think i found what you are referring to. To explain (a) we communicated a bit so weren't strangers and (b) he has a sense of humour. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:12, 8 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me and P.S. Stale durians that you will find in random grocery stores that aren't Woolworths or Coles will smell much worse than ones that come fresh from the garden. Try one, even though that box on your user page says otherwise. Just pinch your nose--apparently, doing that will make an onion taste like an apple.


 * Regards from over the ditch
 * Rebestalic (talk) 23:37, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Have tried a few times with durians.....sigh.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

trust
you got my highy scurrilous email... things look good re the biota material - it is all just a matter of time JarrahTree 12:11, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * wow you look so focused on the hakeas, take care !! JarrahTree 13:19, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * yep. always wanted to grow this plant Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * my old house had mature laurinas and very old petiolaris (started by my father in the 1960s) on darling range lateritic soils, the next house has both again from scratch and even in 4 years amazing - let me know do you have big enough back yard Ill send you some wa seeds JarrahTree 13:30, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Four Award

 * thx! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Four Award

 * thx! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:21, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Directing people to discussions elsewhere
Please do not use the template to direct people to discussions that are occurring elsewhere. I counted no fewer than thirteen of them, with the consequence that a number of people have been sent messages like. A WP:RFC is a discussion in its own right, and should not be used to direct people to a different discussion. Better methods are available, such as the template, or. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:35, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I did not know that. Ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Staatstheater am Gärtnerplatz
Cas Liber, I was wondering if you might want to give this review another look; much has happened since you last posted. If not, I'll call for a new reviewer. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:05, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

FAC Request
Hi Casliber, just contacting you to ask for comments on my FAC since you made some on the last attempt. Here's the link if you're interested. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  00:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for satyr
Something appears to be wrong with the DYK bots. I added my DYK nomination for the article satyr at Template talk:Did you know with this edit dated to 18 October. approved the nomination this morning and moved it from the nominations page to the approved page with this edit, but then, just now,  left a message on my talk page telling that I did not complete the nomination by posting it to Template talk:Did you know and that I need to do that if I wish to continue with the nomination—but the nomination has already been approved and is listed on the "approved" page. --Katolophyromai (talk) 14:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, recommend ignoring the bot and keeping an eye on when it's promoted into a queue. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks. I will make sure and do that, then. --Katolophyromai (talk) 21:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Wōdejebato/archive1
Greetings,

did you plan to add more comments on Featured article candidates/Wōdejebato/archive1? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the review and support on the Bulgaria FAC! - ☣Tourbillon A ? 13:43, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

TFA...
Imleria badia, 13 November 2018... you know the drill. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and sadly missed Sasata for another good one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Cortinarius_caperatus
A reader contacted Wikimedia with a concern about a recent FA Cortinarius_caperatus. The issue was technical enough that I obtained permission to quote the reader. I would normally post this n the article talk page (and still can, if you desire) but I saw your involvement and thought I would start with you.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  13:42, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

"I usually enjoy your featured articles, and usually just help out by correcting the odd typo, but, today, your top picture looks so obviously wrong for the species that I couldn't believe someone would have been able to swap it without it being noticed. However, after hunting all over the place and nearly giving up in frustration, I can well understand how such a mistake would go uncorrected!

Surely on something as potentially dangerous as fungi identification you could at least put a query or 'yes/no' box near the pictures to draw them to the author's attention? This is especially needed when the topic has been locked in the possibly wrong state 'to prevent vandalism'.

I am not a professional mycologist, and professionals would shy away from making positive IDs from photographs‎ in any case. However, I did spend many years going on fungal forays with the official fungi Recorder for Herts and Beds in England (Alan Outen), and many other Mycological Society members, who were very experienced foragers, with an impressive list of new additions to the UK list to their names, so, whereas I might not be able to give you a positive ID for the mushrooms in that leading photo, I am fairly certain that they are not the Cortinarius described: they are Agaricus I am vertually certain. (It looks close to a 'Yellow Stainer' but that would need a yellow base to the stipe. --I'm not being to specific on the species names here, as they change frequently, and I'm not currently able to foray and so keep up with the current names.).

It is too poor a picture to be used in identification in any case, as you cannot see any of the features clearly enough to be sure even of the genus, but, on the overall appearance, I would say this really is be one of the woodland Agaricus species--in the UK, most commonly A. silvicola. Although the article does say that some people can mistake this rather unusual Cortinarius for an Agaricus or Agrocybe, I don't think they intended to say it looked *that* much like an Agaricus!

You might contend that it really is a picture of an extreme example of the species, but, really, if so, you should not show such pictures without explaining it is an extreme variant. As you can see from the other pictures further down the page, it has very little in common with them, that you can actually see.

Also, if you Google the species, you will find that the Wiki picture is different from most of the others.

Here is a reliable link to a note of the species, with a much different picture. (The most important feature of Cortinarius is the spore print colour. You really ought to include spore prints.):

‎

‎https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortinarius_caperatus

‎

Hope this makes sense and finds the right person."


 * It does make sense. I suspect they are right. And I have changed the image to one I am more sure of. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank-you.The magic of Wikipedia in action!-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018 November newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is, who over the course of the competition has amassed 147 GAs, 111 GARs, 9 DYKs, 4 FLs and 1 ITN. Our finalists were as follows:



All those who reached the final win awards, and awards will also be going to the following participants:


 * wins the FA prize, for three featured articles in round 2.
 * wins the GA prize, for 92 good articles in round 3.
 * wins the FL prize, for five featured lists overall.
 * wins the topic prize, for 30 articles in good topics overall.
 * wins the DYK prize, for 24 did you know articles in round 3.
 * wins the ITN prize, for 17 in the news articles overall.
 * wins the GAR prize, for 43 good article reviews in round 1.

Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2019 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. ,, and.


 * Congrats, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:22, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

User:BhagyaMani making mass deletions from Lion articles
is making mass deletions from Lion articles. For instance, they have deleted more than 40,000 bytes from Northern lion:,. Apparently simply because some of the material was copied from other wiki articles without attribution. Rather than notify and/or request attribution, they are simply mass deleting, and edit-warring to retain the mass deletions. Could you put an end to the mass deletion, and restore the content in the various articles, before the situation needs to go to a noticeboard? Softlavender (talk) 10:54, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Just saw your talk, . The content I deleted are contributions I made to other lion subpages that has been copy-pasted without any WP:PATT. I will make a list with diffs today. I don't mind that these contributions are duplicated, rather feel honoured that they are. But think, they should be attributed correctly. Or am I mistaken?? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:41, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That's not a reason to make mass deletions from two different articles. If you want attribution, request the person who added the information to provide it on the article's talkpage, or post the attribution on the article's talkpage yourself. Please replace all of the material you have mass deleted from Northern lion and East African lion. -- Softlavender (talk) 11:58, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * As is aware, there is an ongoing RfC at Talk:Lion I think that they should refrain from making major changes (like content removal) until the RfC concludes. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 13:26, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey I suspect the text at that discussion will dissuade any closing admins from making any substantive changes at all. I sorta regret framing it like that. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:20, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I have now reverted the mass deletions from Northern lion and East African lion. BhagyaMani, please don't re-delete without consensus. If you want attribution to be posted, do it yourself at the top of the articles' talk pages if you don't know how to make that talkpage request of the person(s) who added the text. Softlavender (talk) 15:32, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Since I was asked to provide PATT diffs, I collated two lists at User_talk:BhagyaMani, and will continue digging through more contributions tomorrow. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:47, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * In my opinion there is no need to provide diffs. If anything was copied from elsewhere on wiki, you can simply place a notice at the top of the talkpage linking to the original source of the material. Softlavender (talk) 23:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

a lion subpage
Dear Cas Liber: though I’m aware and respect that you are not really interested in the lion subpages, I would appreciate your advice. There is an editor who keeps insisting on adding false and misleading info into the Central African lion page, which I reverted several times and explained why : see these today’s diffs https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Central_African_lion&curid=49791477&diff=867059673&oldid=867037085 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Central_African_lion&diff=next&oldid=867059673, and also my attempt to discuss this at Talk:Central_African_lion, alas to no avail. Would you advise me to a) ignore this editor’s reverts to including false info, or b) continue this edit war?? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:33, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I edit wikipedia to relax and enjoy myself. I do try to sort out difficult stuff at times but I don't have the spare time to comb over all these subpages in detail. I will try to look and see what I can suggest. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:28, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! I did not intend to motivate you to engage in this discussion. But just wanted your advice. What would you do? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 23:10, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

He just started another edit war : see this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Central_African_lion&type=revision&diff=867430830&oldid=867082870 -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Have a look at WP:SPI. I might post a request there myself a bit later but am pretty busy. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:34, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you !! I don't think that this is a case of SPI. His 'friend' (?) left a rather rude message at my talk page, asking me to stay away from Wikipedia, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BhagyaMani#November_2018 -- BhagyaMani (talk) 19:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

For deletion: I highly appreciate your proposal!!! And your initiative to revive the discussion!! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 21:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

In view of my today’s comment in [this talk], this brings me to an idea I have in mind for some time already. But would first like to propose to you, and see what you think about it, as it may seem a bit radical (?) at first sight: That way, we can demonstrate range decline of both subspecies, and at the same time make it apparent to readers, why we treat Barbary lion and Cape lion in only two separate pages, instead of using additional pages with Latin and/or uncommon vernacular names. Note that I am not at all worried or concerned about (common) names: there are many species and subspecies named after countries and/or regions, although their actual range is far larger than this particular region, e.g. Egyptian mongoose, large Indian civet, small Indian civet, Indian leopard, Bengal tiger. Looking forward to your thoughts !! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 10:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * a set of only THREE lion subpages, namely titled Barbary lion, Cape lion and Asiatic lion, so that
 * Barbary lion contains ALL info about P. l. leo, i.e. including about the leo pops in West and Central Africa; since after all, these were once contiguous with lions in North Africa, but became fragmented and disconnected in the course of changing climate and due to human intervention;
 * Cape lion contains ALL info about P. l. melanochaita in Southern and East Africa, i.e. also about former range and connectedness;
 * Asiatic lion as is, because this page has been stable for a looong time, with lots of info about the extant pop in India and former range in Asia.


 * For that to work one would have to have sources that have decided that those names (Barbary and Cape Lion) are appended to the broader (post 2017) subspecies. Otherwise it is Original Research. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:10, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Valid point indeed!! Checked, but didn't find any. Same argument applies for 'Northern lion' and Southern lion': these names have not been used in a single publ between 1990 and today. Indians use subspecific name P. leo leo in conjunction with Asiatic lion now. But majority of authors writing about lion in Africa use only specific name P. leo, i.e. completely avoid taxonomic statement. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 07:21, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiCup award




DYK nomination of Vorombe
Hello! Your submission of Vorombe at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:44, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Userfy request
Please userfy https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=William+Farrar and drop it in a sub page of my userspace....

Background: I answered Teahouse and we are now trying to help Alvanhholmes make an article that will survive review. He has put quite a bit of effort into User:Alvanhholmes/sandbox and I want to see what previously existed ... is there anything worth saving????

Refs:

User talk:Alvanhholmes User talk:Alvanhholmes/sandbox

Regards, Ariconte (talk) 01:30, 8 November 2018 (UTC)


 * have restored it and left in history - so see this revision to see if anything worth using. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:28, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

ARBCOM
Hi Cas Liber ... Could you please please please run for ArbCom this year? As a former Arb and a stable, neutral admin, your service is much needed on the Committee. Right now there are only three people running to fill six seats, and two of those running are not even admins. Please consider being of service in this way again. It would be very much appreciated. The deadline is in a few days. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 10:56, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I have little free time currently Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Bummer, dude. OK live your life, if that's what you want to do. -- Softlavender (talk) 04:30, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like we're now up to five former arbs plus one current one in the running, even after the recent disqualification. Enjoy your scarce free time, Cas Liber! BlueMoonset (talk) 07:12, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is enough of a cohort so that some sensible people get elected and others....don't. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:33, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Could you nominate mace pagoda for DYK?
Hi Casliber, I'm going to create Mimetes stokoei. I think it may make an interesting DYK item with the following hook ...the mace pagoda was twice presumed extinct, but reappeared in its natural habitat from seed, after a wildfire several decades later. Thank you in advance, kind regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 18:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I think so. will see what I can do Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:22, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! Dwergenpaartje (talk) 11:39, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

[!Elton John]]
We worked well together on the "Hotel California" article, so I was wondering if you would review the Elton John article when I nominate it for GA?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 03:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS
 * Ummm, quite possibly. My free time is patchy but I'll see what I can do Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:29, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK prep 1
Any chance you could promote DYK Kalākaua's 1874–75 state visit to the United States to the lead hook on Prep 1? It coincides with an anniversary (Nov 17) and is also the date of an upcoming Hawaii Library Assn editathon. I don't seem to be having any luck getting this promoted. — Maile (talk) 02:33, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I see it's taken care of, thankfully Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:27, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, finally. — Maile  (talk) 12:19, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hakea corymbosa
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

FA mentor needed
Hello! After a successful GA review, DYK nomination, and peer review, I'm pretty sure Solar eclipse of May 20, 2012 is ready for FAC. While it's definitely short for a featured article, it is comparable in length to Tropical Depression Ten (2005), which has passed FAC. Since this is my first FAC, would you mind assisting it through the process? Thank you! Codyorb (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. Yes it is pretty short. Need to think about what's needed.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:12, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That gallery will get it quick-failed at FAC before anyone reads the text; unless there's an overwhelmingly good reason to include one galleries are always a no-no on FAs, and this one has no particular encyclopedic value (a yellow circle looks the same whether it's photographed from Japan or the US, and the reader can already imagine what people looking at the sky look like). For something that was visible on land, particularly in an English-speaking country like the US, I'd also expect to see a "public reaction" section—in which areas was it fully visible and where was it obscured by clouds? How did the astrologers and doomsday cults react? How many people suffered eye damage viewing it? Was there a measurable drop in productivity as workers skived off work to go out and watch it? &#8209; Iridescent 23:22, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh boy, that's quite a bit to go through! I don't think all of that could be added, due to the relative lack of information compared to more high-profile eclipses. Codyorb (talk) 23:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I pretty much agree with Iridescent and was going to post something but had to help my son with his homework. Just take a look and see what you can find. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:11, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's possible. The article already contains viewing information, and I can remove the gallery (the images ARE repetitive). I'll dig around news archives to find anymore useful information for the article. Codyorb (talk) 22:44, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * PS: Tropical Depression Ten (2005) became a Featured Article some time ago (2009) and standards have tightened a bit since then. But I take your point. If you look and can't find stuff let us know. I will have a think...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:15, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

A-class
I've fixed up the Gene Hackman article and submitted it for a A class assessment on the article's talk page since WikiProject Bio A class assessment is currently defunct. I'd like you (since you've reviewed some of my DYKs) and another uninvolved editor to review the Gene Hackman article for A-class criteria on that talk page if you want (but some feedback like what to fix would also be helpful too). Thanks. JC7V (talk) 01:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Mensa (constellation)
TFA for 29 December. You know the drill.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Heh, thx Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:40, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

MacLeay or Macleay?
Hello Cas,

Greetings to you. I've had an interesting time with the spelling of the author of Dendrobium cucumerinum. John Lindley gives the author as "W. MacLeay" (1842), WCSP and APNI as "MacLeay" and IPNI returns "William MacLeay fl. 1842" for "MacLeay" (or "Mcleay") but who was he/she? I guessed it may have been one of the two cousins William Sharp Macleay or William John Macleay but I may be on the wrong track - neither of them were really botanists and the spelling of Macleay is different. Maybe Lindley got it wrong? (No need to respond - just thought you might be interested too.) Gderrin (talk) 05:04, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Surely someone figured this out before...lookin' into it....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:19, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * It's William Sharp Macleay - see here Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:00, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Glad I didn't put my money down, the work gives a citation to Woolls "D. Cucumerinum was found by the late Mr. W. S. Macleay, near Brownlow Hill, growing on the swamp oak, …". cygnis insignis 14:31, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks to you both. I guess that means I can link the "MacLeay" here to William Sharp Macleay. Gderrin (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:31, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Request for DYK help
Hi. I'm currently working an developing an article in my user space Alabama v. North Carolina, and before I publish it I'd like to make sure that it would meet the criteria for DYK, and that the hook I have been trying to draft would be acceptable (hook in talk page). Would you be willing to give it a look?

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 21:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:30, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Peer Review help wanted for Irritator
I'm in the process of preparing this article for FAC and have put it up at Peer Review to see how fit it is for nomination. Since you were of much help last time with Oxalaia I was wondering if you could take a look?

Much appreciated. ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼  21:45, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look (I keep promising myself I'll get back to writing a paleontological article one day...)..Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:50, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ▼PσlєοGєєк  ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼  00:13, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Arbcom
Arbitration/Requests/Case. Fram (talk) 11:11, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Vorombe
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

WP:FOUR
Hey Casliber, if you have a moment, would you be able to review my WP:FOUR nomination? Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @ 16:04, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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off-topic survey
Banksia. Now that I have your attention, and while you are not the first to submit to my survey, I estimate you are most the qualified (and available :-) ), so would you proffer an opinion on the cultivation of this genus … in pots? I was given a B. brownii and thought the grower's heart would break as she waved goodbye (to the plant, not me!), and as you will recall it is extremely rare, vulnerable to extinction, and susceptible to that unmentionable pathogen. I guess the skinny of this, in general for the genus and for that species, specifically, is
 * A. no.
 * B. too difficult.
 * C. risky and difficult
 * D. give it a go.

I would prefer these things remain in good care, when rare, although my installation in other situations are probably protecting themselves with their inherent charisma (or bulldozed, if it is in the way, bad planning on my part I suppose). How are things, by the way, we have been lucky with the weather on this side. cygnis insignis 11:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Some are easier than others. Also being in the west is good overall. B. brownii is hard unless grafted. B. petiolaris and B. blechnifolia are easiest western species I think. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you Cas. Seeing these things for sale on the steps of the local church is like seeing a box full of kittens, it's very hard for me to pass them by. I've seen seemingly unstoppable garden specimens of B. blechnifolia and was going to try that potted up to see what happens, but acquired the prostrate gardneri instead . Do you favour a theory on why there is more success in WA, if all other conditions are equal? cygnis insignis 13:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Another bloody fine and enjoyable article Cas, concentrating on these organisms is a worthy task so kudos to your attention. Is there any historical data on the distribution? I'm thinking along the lines of the species turning up when one of its tree partners are introduced. cygnis insignis 11:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
Amazing consistency, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hakea pulvinifera
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Red-bellied black snake
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DYK for Mimetes stokoei
Vanamonde (talk) 12:01, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Red-bellied black snake
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Happy Saturnalia

 * Heh! same to you and yours! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:23, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

 * Heh, and to you to ! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:24, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Heh, thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Yo

 * noice! and to you and yers! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:21, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Will pass that on my man. Ceoil  (talk) 01:57, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

 * Ditto! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:20, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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 * I have kids - Xmas is obligatory :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:11, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Red-bellied black snake
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Best wishes

 * aand to you and yours. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:57, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 * Thx dude yeah Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:43, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

 * So do I....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:44, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Dendrobium cucumerinum
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

whoosh
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trust you have had a good christmas - have a good new year and maintain the humour and hope !!! .. JarrahTree 00:19, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

 * Thanks and same to you. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:29, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Merry holidays
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