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DYK for Falkner Island Light
Thank you from the DYK project and me Victuallers (talk) 12:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:44, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Who's Your Neighbor?
Hi Chris. Thanks for the kind words and the excellent expansion work. Looking back at the article history, seems I created this when I was working on the films of Evelyn Brent (still a few to add, too)! I genuinely love seeing a stub article I created get expanded, esp. to this sort of quality. Thanks again!  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 08:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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EEng and the guy with the iron rod through his head
First off, on the WP:CITEVAR bit, my point is that hyphens are mandated by some style guides (that's the "example" link that I gave, to a Purdue University page discussing The MLA Style Manual), and the paragraph above CITEVAR notes that we don't require a specific standard, EEng isn't bound to use a specific style guide. Seeing that he was using hyphenation for pagination, changing hyphens to dashes is not only unusual and unhelpful, but it actively takes the article away from its current citation style, so this kind of change is at variance with CITEVAR.

Your comments about the content of the article are a completely different matter. If he's frequently adding material at variance with the sources, that's a problem, but I offered no comment on that matter because I wasn't looking into such an issue. If it were mentioned at WP:ANI and I missed it, I apologise. I understood the discussion to mean that he wrote one or more high-quality scholarly publications on this guy, and that he's a leading scholar on this topic. If such be the case, it would be highly inappropriate if we intentionally didn't rely heavily on his work (see footnote), and there's absolutely nothing wrong with relying on it heavily. Of course I understand that I might be misunderstanding the situation, so please explain where I'm wrong if I am.

Footnote: I'm talking about a situation in which editors are aware of a leading scholar in the field, but they actively decide to ignore him, or someone else comes in and adds something about this scholar, and other people remove it because of whose work it is. I understand that we often ignore scholars because we're not aware of them; that's simply ignorance, a completely different matter. Nyttend (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * changing a to a physical hyphen for that issue is not a Citevar issue at all. Using a template causes an error where the code itself or literal will not. That was the reason BGwhite did that. There was no effective change in rendering on the page, but instead it prevented an issue that arises from templates within Cite templates. That's my understanding of that issue. So I really do not see how "do not do this" and fixing it causes a "citevar issue" when switching the reference structure to Harvard, Templates or some other method is demonstrably an issue. Though I think that quibbling over it is a bit like splitting hairs, I was more concerned with the no ref related matters. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:55, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Either you misunderstand, or I picked the wrong example; I'm sorry. Surely hyp and - are the same!  Nyttend (talk) 23:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Question about your edit
Hello CG. Re this edit. Do you think that the dubious notation should be added to the individual articles for those films? On the first one the "silent Era" ref even mentions that he probably wasn't in the film. The second film is a stub and only has one ref. I will leave it up to you as how to proceed. Thanks for your time and for all the work you do here at WikiP. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:03, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I am actually researching those films right now and I am certain that both films do not show Chaney. I am still evaluating my materials and checking things out, but that citation on The Honor of the Family Blake is invalid. The book makes no mention of that film in its text from what I've seen. It is a more complex matter for the second film however, but the history of that film is pretty clear. The Ways of Fate is only credited by a few sources and it seems extremely unlikely to feature Chaney because of its production details. We would be looking for a film produced pre-September 1912, if anything, and The Ways of Fate was later. I'm still missing some details, but I am certain it's dubious and those films will be fixed later on. I think I'll be adding some more "dubious" tags to films in that era. I started on three simple films unrelated to Chaney, Who's Your Neighbor?, A 44-Calibre Mystery and The Immortal Alamo. Of the three, 44-Calibre was the most confusing I've researched and I've dug up new information on the Immortal Alamo that I've not seen referenced elsewhere. I need to cut my teeth on a few more things before I am certain enough to add the details in full. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * All I can say is excellent research on your part. Thanks so much for taking the time to type it all up for me to read. I look forward to seeing the fruits of your efforts on the articles in the future. You probably have already seen it but, on the off chance that you haven't, the documentary that accompanies this DVD set is very well done. Chaney is so much more than just his horror film roles and that doc helps to show that. Good luck on all your research and have a great weekend. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:41, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll make sure to notify you when I post the information up. I just need a good few days to go through and double check everything. I have seen that documentary and it is indeed very good. Though in terms of nuance, it does state his first films were through Nestor and indicates this was after his wife's suicide attempt, but the book indicates that it is technically possible that a film could have been made earlier. I've dug up some clever references. I was quite annoyed when I read the Chaney page because of all its errors and assumptions. I couldn't let them just go undisputed because credible sources disagree and on far better grounds. Chaney is perhaps one of the most important actors of all time, shame the Wikipedia page is horrendous. So I am out to fix it up a little. ChrisGualtieri (talk)
 * More good points on your part. Sometime in the 1980s I went to Colorado Springs and visited some of the locations that he was associated with including the theater that is named for him. Again thanks for your efforts. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

You deserve this!

 * Aww, thanks! It means a lot to me. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 22:41, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

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Newspapers.com Clipping's blog
Hey ChrisGualtieri. The Wikipedia Library is interested in profiling how some of the users have been using the materials from our partnerships through blog posts like http://blog.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/2014/07/18/working-with-wikipedia-to-bring-history-facts-to-light/. Your recent extensive use of the Newspapers.com partnership, seemed to make you a good candidate for writing about their clipping's function. Would you be interested in writing a blog post that focuses on how you use the clipping's and why that kind of function is important for Wikipedia's goals to share knowledge freely? Sadads (talk) 17:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'll draft up some ideas and work on a good post. Thanks for offer . ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Will send you a google doc so that we have a central collaborative place to work on it, Sadads (talk) 17:34, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * I see that you have been quite busy lately, is there a chance that you have missed the GA review on this article? Let me know what you want to do and we can move forward either to GA or I can close it, and someone can come along and address the concerns at a later date. Thank you for quality work here on WP.  Neonblak talk  -  13:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Links at COIN
I noticed WP:COIN. Strong claims need good links, so please check that you have the right links (the first is a diff of you removing something). Re the second (and most important) link, I don't see that name on the user page, so if it is not self disclosed, a bad outing has occurred. Johnuniq (talk) 07:05, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I stumbled on the self-disclosure: I think some clue needs to be given (say by linking to the specific section). Johnuniq (talk) 07:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I fixed the link to the section. Thanks. EEng will not dispute he added that section, because it was in a 50+ page discussion previously where it was established. Rather than show a collection of evolving wording and structure to the article with Wikiblame - I highlighted the section -specifically by my removal. EEng had also used the article as an attack on other scholars and a school. Though that is less relevant now. It was side discussions that ultimately lead to the issue going way off the rails. Sorry,, but I believe that EEng's years long work with Macmillan is the core matter. At the COI page, the quote from Davis shows that EEng has a special interest which warps the relationships of the page because EEng's relationship to the materials presentation, both his own citations and that of Macmillan. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

The Blood Red Tape of Charity
Yes, I created that one too! Gone for the DYK. Hope that's OK. Feel free to change the hook too. Thanks again for the great expansion work.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah it is perfectly okay. I don't deal with DYK... not exactly something I am a big fan of. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


 * No worries. And The Restless Spirit was one I started too! Great work once again.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:32, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Ashland Mill Bridge/GA1
Chris, I wasn't sure whether you'd noticed that James had posted a few comments on the article 12 days ago. If you're hoping for more to work with, you might want to reply to let him know; you haven't made any edits since his post, and the review itself is now over 50 days old. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh I didn't see and it didn't update. Thanks. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:30, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Incidentally, you're reviewing one of his GANs, Talk:Wemyss Ware/GA1, and he hasn't yet responded to a comment you made over four weeks ago. It's getting to be time for some action to be taken; if he can't work on it, given his current level of activity, it should probably be closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * a five minute search shows that the article is lacking in key details and I think I have no choice but to fail it. I'll give him a week more since I had to complete a more detailed check first. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:16, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Chris. A week seems fair. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for the move
Hello CG. I have wanted Lon's article moved to that title for years but I never took the time to put in a request. Thanks for your work in getting it to the right title!! Something has gone awry with the talk page though. Talk:Lon Chaney now has the DAB Project Banner and nothing else. I left a note pn Philg88's talk page as well. Hopefully one of you can get things fixed. One of the threads on that talk page was a mention from 8 or 9 years ago pointing out that Sr. was never a part of his name. Cheers and enjoy your Sunday. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 05:13, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin so I can't fix it. Talk:Lon Chaney (Sr.) needs to be moved over, that's all. I've actually been compiling a bunch of data on Lon Chaney and silent films - not much that Blake hasn't already well-covered, but I have found more data on the films themselves and fixed a few mistakes. ChrisGualtieri (talk)
 * Thanks for the response. Phil got it so we are where we should be. Oof just read my post - I was idealistic back then :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 05:23, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

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