User talk:Dane/Archive 1

Wikitable
Hi I have put a Wikitable in the page you made for me as I am not sure of how fix it, as is missing some lines. Could you please fix the table and then I will re-add it to the article.

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 07:25, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi David, I am away from my computer on vacation and have limited access on my phone. I can follow up on this on Wednesday when I return. -- Dane 2007  talk 12:36, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. -- Dane 2007  talk 08:17, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

WP:TPS
Hello! Stalking my talk page I see? ;-p I saw you thanked me for my recent edit. I'm curious, do you have any feedback? Anything you would advise me to do differently? Anything I should work on? Looking for any and all feedback, both positive and negative. Thanks!!! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Haha yeah, I forget where we crossed paths but I started stalking your talk page and noticed that heading today. I would just say to review the Speedy deletion and vandalism policies again...it sounds like you've reviewed the edit warring policy before.  I don't think theres a reason to remove your "new page reviewer" flag as your mistakes have been typical learning roadblocks and you're very receptive and open to feedback.  I believe you are competent and don't think there is a problem there. I have struggled with CSD (specifically A7) as well but I find if I review it regularly I do better with it.  I think you're a good contributor here and your edits are good faith. Don't be discouraged and keep up the good work :)! -- Dane 2007  talk  19:47, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Really appreciate the support and the reminders. Hope you are doing well! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:07, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Transformers Box
Hi Dane, I Hope you had a good vacation! Could you please fix that transformers Table that I sent you as it is missing some lines, and also please send me the link to it as I often have trouble finding it.

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 02:43, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi David! Thank you, I did have a good one :). I thought I fixed this already, can you check here and let me know if there is still something missing? -- Dane 2007  talk  02:59, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Well Done
Thank you, the box is fixed just right.

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 03:53, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Glad I could help! Let me know if anything else comes up! -- Dane 2007  talk  03:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

My block history
Thanks for your comment at User talk:Dannecoolboi. Yeah, my block history isn't relevant there, and I'm not about to discuss it with the blocked user, but it's interesting for all that, and a source of pride to me. See WP:BLOCKABDICATE. Regards, Bishonen &#124; talk 21:28, 5 November 2016 (UTC).
 * Most definitely. The history behind that block is interesting and I think shouldn't really be of concern to anyone who reads through WP:BLOCKABDICATE.  Totally not relevant to your action today either.  I personally suspect that user is a sock but I will await and see what actions they take going forward. Thanks for pointing me to that article!  It's a good read. -- Dane 2007  talk  01:01, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Comment on Fame Monster
fame monster is an ep album and is not listed as a studio album as per lady gaga discography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davomail (talk • contribs) 04:24, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Next Projects
Hi, before I tell you about by my next projects, can you please go to Turban and The British Bruisers, and fix all the links that start with http:, the way you did with the Montreal screwjob, since I don't yet now how to do that? And thanks for your help!

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 10:55, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ The British Bruisers
 * ❌ Turban - No changes found to correct or make. -- Dane 2007  talk 19:32, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

USWA
Hi, Could you please go the United States Wrestling Association page and fix the external link next to Super Mario under the USWA alumni, I added it but couldn't add it properly.

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 16:58, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This is now ✅. -- Dane 2007  talk 18:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
I saw your message on the Editor assistance/Requests page about Surya K. Jayaweera. I will try writing this again soon, but I just wanted to say thanks first. Even if the article ends up not being deemed notable, I appreciate someone else taking time out of their day to extend another chance. Thanks again. Dodgetherocks (talk) 23:55, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'm glad I can help! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 01:52, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

User:Xparta
Thank you for all your hard work on the sockpuppet case. Oded kobo started today looks very similar to the changes that this user and their socks tried to make to O. D. Kobo. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Edwardx (talk) 23:03, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've redirected Oded kobo to O. D. Kobo to be going on with. Edwardx (talk) 23:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for redirecting that and bringing it to my attention. I have gone ahead and made a new SPI report to reflect this suspicion.  It does look way too similar to be a coincidence. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  23:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was quick. Thanks.  That would have taken me so much longer to puzzle out what to do. Edwardx (talk) 23:19, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. Always happy to help.  I have reverted the article to the contested version so that we can apply the proper CSD tag, have it deleted and then I will be requesting create protection.  -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  23:21, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's even better. Edwardx (talk) 23:32, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. ✅ as sockpuppet of Xparta and tagged. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  23:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Trump 45 listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Trump 45. Since you had some involvement with the Trump 45 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:43, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I responded there - in summary though, I'm not too concerned either way, I mostly approved/created it due to the pattern of other presidents having a similar redirect present. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  01:36, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

what do you think man
This guy accuses me of being someone else, edits all day and night to hope someone reads his non-notable bio, reverts and removes sourced edits. Am I supposed to care about his Obvious jealousy or lAUGH at it? what do you think?73.150.99.93 (talk) 07:03, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

From what I seen "combatmarsmallow" is Blocked for LIFE73.150.99.93 (talk) 07:04, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


 * You are supposed to assume good faith and not make personal attacks. If his accusation is unfounded, you should address it in a calm, appropriate manner. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  07:05, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

He does not listen to reason, is arrogant, gets away with stuff because he edits all day and night. Look up his "handle" or edit name on google people say he is a Professional Edit Warrer at wikipedia. I believe it to be true. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hogan%27s_Heroes_(band)&diff=749211572&oldid=749205881 I added to compilations after seeing a comp for new jersey bands at discogs. he just removes it. he's NOT here to Build the wiki unless he's not exuding some kind of jealousy. If he is jealous of something or something rubs him wrong he goes off on everyone. not civil at all. I appreciate your civility. He also will do 800 edits after edit warring and push the evidence down off his edits to the next page. I have watched him before. The group is from NJ some of us Obviously take pride in our state band and we edit the page. 73.150.99.93 (talk) 07:11, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Phife
I am a parent of a 7 year old boy who has type 1 diabetes and I am life long follower of ATCQ.

Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes are often confused.

Type 1 diabetics use fast acting (injected) insulin as Phife demonstrated in the documentary, "Beats, Rhymes, and Life". Phife's mother says "Malik and I both have Juvenile Diabetes which is commonly called Type 1" Look for it around 49 minutes into the film.

Phife was diagnosed with Type 1 at around 19 or 20 years old. This is a little old for Type 1 diagnosis, but extremely young for Type 2. Phife used insulin therapy to account for all carbs he ate. This is mandatory for Type 1 diabetics.

Type 1 diabetes is genetic and has nothing to do w/ lifestyle, activity, or food choices. It is an autoimmune disease. Sadly, based on quotes from Phife in the documentary and other media, I don't think he understood the disease fully. I suspect this contributed to his death. Addiction to sugar is not relevant. His body did not secret insulin naturally.

My correction is accurate.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael.gunnels (talk • contribs) 07:38, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This reliable source reports that it was Type II diabetes that is often misreported as type I. If you can find multiple reliable sources to cite in the article that document that it was type I, go for it and change it back but make sure those sources are present and word it in a way that acknowledges the misreporting of it please.  I appreciate your commentary and explanation! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  07:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

User talk:97.99.245.75
BLP? Patrick Regan (Medal of Honor, 1918) Died in 1943. Jim1138 (talk) 07:22, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Definitely BLP! Will you check out Bao Nguyen? User says I shouldn't have reverted....I see removal of sourced content and introducing ambiguity (changed "Garden Grove" to "the city").-- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  07:27, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Nvm, huggle didn't carry the edit summary for some reason which they had....it was a good edit. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 07:36, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * BLP as in "Bits Left in Place"? A bit captious? His ES doesn't explain why he removed the jail criticism nor Bernie endorsement. I would have reverted as "unexplained removal". template:Uw-civil-qa1? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 07:48, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

The Shadows
Hi, Would you please go to The Shadows (professional wrestling) and fix the external link at the end of the sentence where it says the shadows had a few matches against The Rockers in 1987?

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 08:17, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. Note that this website may not comply with the reliable sources policy as it appears to be user generated content. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  20:09, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Human variability
Hi Dane2007,

I saw that you removed my edit to the page Human variability even though the source for the information was at the end of the paragraph (as the entire paragraph was written based on the source). Did I do something wrong in my citation?

Thanks, Ipshab (talk) 23:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Ipshab! I removed it because you added more factual claims without referencing a reliable source for those claims.  I spot checked the source on the page and didn't see the information you added in the existing source for that section. If you cite it correctly per the verifiability policy it can certainly go back in!  Thanks -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  23:53, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Dane2007, I think I'm confused because the information is present on page 15 of the source. Is this not reliable enough and is my source not cited correctly? Thanks Ipshab (talk) 00:03, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I couldn't access page 15 in preview mode for that source. You can go ahead and add it back in though if that's where it is sourced. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  00:20, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Request on 15:50:40, 12 November 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Neil Kindness
) I am not sure if the previous message was sent correctly as I cannot see it anywhere. However I have redrafted the article and would appreciate it if you would cast an eye over it to let me know if it is in the right direction. Neil Kindness (talk) 15:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Neil Kindness (talk) 15:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Neil! I got both messages and I will look over this draft later tonight :). Thanks! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 17:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dane, I have now made adjustments to the page that you suggested and added a bit more body and subsections. I wonder if you can find the time to comment please? Thanks! NeilNeil Kindness (talk) 03:57, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey Neil! Congratulations, the article looks great!  I made a few minor tweaks (all of the content remains, I just reorganized it slightly to improve the article).  Could you add the date of birth in the article lead and infobox?  The article is now located at Todd Anthony Tyler. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  04:51, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey Dane - Thanks - that was one of the most satisfying things I have done in years - very good fun - and I now have a new hobby - Thank you so much for all your mentoring and help.Neil Kindness (talk) 05:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


 * No problem at all! I'm glad I was able to help!  Feel free to drop by anytime - I'm always happy to help :). -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  05:50, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review needs your help
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Next article
Hi, I have put my next article in place that you have made for me. Could you please fix the external link, where it says external links? When it is done I will add it to the Mario (disambiguation) page

User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 03:57, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey David, I have fixed the link for you. Please note it will show the correct text (Not "User:Dane2007/Davidgoodheart at...") when you put it into the actual article.  The template that is used for that goes off of the current page name.  I have also added the reflist into the article for you. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  05:01, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanking You and next article
Hi, thanks you for your help with Mario Mancini. I now plan to make an article on a missing person from 1989 as the 1989 list is very short. Just wondering how long does it take you to write an article? Can you type well? I cannot type very fast.

User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart
 * It usually takes me about 4-6 hours to write a draft of a really decent length article. Sometimes more sometimes less, depends on the day. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 07:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Please check out my next article
Hi, I have written my next article and it is in the space that you have made for me. It will be called Disappearance of Melanie Melanson, a missing girl from 1989. I was not sure to use her first or last name when writing the article and I think it might need some touching up, Maybe you can add some external links and see if it needs any improvements. Then when I post it we can combat the speedy deletion. User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 18:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * - Working on this today and tomorrow. I will ping you again once I am completed with my revisions on it. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 21:54, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * - I did not have all the time I expected to finish this but I did implement some changes. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 04:47, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

My article
Hi, I have seen the changes you have made and their good ones, I have made an addition as well when I last checked it out. Do you think I can post it now? When I do we can combat the speedy deletion, as I believe all these articles on this subject go through this

DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 04:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It is not ready yet for publication in my opinion. There are some grammatical and flow errors that still need copyediting on it, mainly in the disappearance section.  The investigation section needs a little work towards the end, the sentence starting with "Also" needs to be rephrased.  The aftermath is mostly good except for a minor thing - "The Authorities" seems out of place at the end there, I might consider referring to them differently or by specific agency. Hope this helps. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  04:51, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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Oops.
You're right, my bad. Cheers,  Yinta n  15:36, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries I almost reverted it as well before I checked out the updates at the sources. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 18:08, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Posting article
Hi, When will the article be finished, as I am eager to post it. Thank you for making changes on my article. DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 02:34, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey David, I worked on the lead and moved the references just now. I will try to tackle the rest when I return home later today.  Holiday week and exams at school have made me a little slow.  Thanks for sticking with me while I try to get ahead on this stuff. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  18:23, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 00:01, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Title vs Category confusion
"Sorry to be pedantic, but a Disappearance does not tend to have a birth date, nor is a Disappearance a "Possibly living people", nor a "People from Woburn, Massachusetts". Bottom line is that you are using categories that are appropriate to a biography of a person, in an article which purports to be about a disappearance. IMO you should either rename the article as MM, or lose the inappropriate categories. -- Tagishsimon 02:05, 27 November 2016 (UTC)"

I think he is wrong in him claims, please him email me, and if he is wrong please let him know, thanks. User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 02:18, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * After reviewing the WP:MOS, I agree with him in this case. I would suggest moving the article to "Melanie Melanson" to retain those categories.  It is similar to how Tiffany Sessions is set up. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  02:23, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't mind me, but I'm not sure there is a hard-and-fast rule about those categories: look at Disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley or Disappearance of Virginia Carpenter or Disappearance of Maura Murray. They both have a "possibly living people" and "people from X" category. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:25, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Shall we all discuss it here,, . WP:CATDEF is not ambiguous: "A central concept used in categorising articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article." The subject of this article - as named - is the disappearance, not the person. A disappearance has an anniversary, not a date of birth. I respect that other disappearance articles may well repeat this mistake; that does not make it any less of a mistake. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, . I may look into getting consensus on all the "Disappearance of X" pages renamed so the categories can stay. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:34, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . It'll be an uphill battle. Thanks for the loan of your talk page, Dane2007. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:40, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I am not sure how to do that, if that is done will there be a speedy deletion tag issued? If you think that is what we should do, could you please do so, as I do not yet know how to do that. Please check out comment left by Mr. Verion about as he has a different opinion

User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 02:31, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I can do that for you if you like. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:32, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Any article that linked to the old article name will automatically redirect to the new one. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:37, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This looks ✅. Thank you everyone for collaborating on this! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 02:44, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Bernie or Bust
I did work on it (here). It's a work in progress. Obviously, I can't do everything on my own, so I'm hoping when the article is restored, there can be more users who can work collaboratively in making it better. So I think it's worth another shot. I also don't mind if it immediately heads to another AfD. Lots of things have changed since August 1, and the Wikipedia community should be able to reassess the article at least one more time since that date. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:52, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I will check this out when I finish the other article I am working on at this point. Sorry for the delay, hopefully will review this tonight or tomorrow and give some feedback. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  18:25, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I reviewed the changes and at this point i'm still not sure if the article is ready to stand on it's own and I have concerns about sourcing using Washington Times and Inquistr. However, I do think you've changed enough to get another round at AfD if you so choose to. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  02:37, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking into this Dane2007. Yes, I'm up for another AfD. What would be the procedure? Restore the article then immediately send it to AfD? Étienne Dolet (talk) 03:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad to help. And you are correct. Restore the article and wait for someone to nom for AfD.  I would be willing to nom it based on the same concerns I echoed above, which would start the discussion process. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  03:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Phife (continued)
Dane2007,

Please help me set the record straight on Phife's Type 1 Diabetes. I have never edited a wikipedia page before. I don't care to get credited, but only to raise awareness of Type 1 diabetes which is not well known and often confused. I have compiled the following list of sources, but I am not sure how to edit the references correctly. Can you please help me and run with this? I greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Phife sources:

Maslow, Nick (March 23, 2016). “Rapper Phife Dawg Dies After 25-Year Diabetes Battle: His Impact 'Will Never Be Forgotten,' Says Family”. http://people.com/celebrity/phife-dawg-dead-a-tribe-called-quest-rapper-honored-on-social-media/

Khatchatourian, Maane (March 23, 2016). ”Phife Dawg, A Tribe Called Quest Founding Member, Dies at 45”. http://variety.com/2016/music/news/phife-dawg-dead-dies-tribe-called-quest-1201737322/

Conway, Rondell (March 23, 2016). “Phife Dawg of A Tribe Called Quest Has Passed Away, But His Legacy Lives On”. http://www.vh1.com/news/252973/phife-dawg-tribe-called-quest-died/

Hogan, Mike (March 23, 2016). “The Enduring Charm of Phife Dawg, Hip-Hop’s Scrappiest Virtuoso”. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/03/phife-dawg-a-tribe-called-quest

Golding, Shenequa (March 23, 2016). “Phiife Dawg Dead at 45”. vibe.com http://www.vibe.com/2016/03/phife-dawg-dead-at-45/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael.gunnels (talk • contribs) 19:21, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I will follow up on this next week. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 05:59, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I have added some of your sources and changed the article to just state "diabetes mellitus" due to the conflicting information in both your sources and the sources that were present. This is the best way to present the information in a case where reliable sources have conflicting data. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 02:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I really appreciate your help. It is a step in the right direction, but I really was hoping to specifically detail Type 1 since it needs more awareness and the confusion cleared up.  This conversation is a case in point.  How many more sources or evidence would you require?
 * I clarified a bit more regarding the conflicting reports and listed some as type 1 with your sources and some as type 2 with your sources. Verifiability, not truth is the policy in play here which is why we can't change it really even with more sources. It is likely to be contested, challenged and removed altogether if we try to change it to just type 1. Due to that we should not push it very hard for risk that the section will be cut down to just a death date with no cause.  I did consult other editors on this and that seems to be the consensus. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  19:08, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Bill Goldberg
The disruptive blocked sockpuppet IP hopper is back with an old barely-used account. Open a sockpuppet investication. I don't know how to do it. Thanks--Trepcost (talk) 22:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing this here. I am going to look through their contribs to find diffs to be sure.  Gestrid/WarMachineWildThing - I may have spoke too soon. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  23:00, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Dane2007, I'm less concerned about the false accusations of sockpuppetry than I am about Trepcost's vandalism at Bill Goldberg, which consists of stripping out valid refs left and right with no reasoning at all. He/she is also injecting a ton of puffery. SierraHotelIndiaEchoLimaDelta (talk) 23:06, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


 * , also check out these sockpuppet IP's of this sockpuppet from before: and

Both these and  talked about "extant version".--Trepcost (talk) 23:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Working on this analysis currently. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 23:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

This sock of his talked about "consensus", while this one reinserted some of his denigration of Goldberg.--Trepcost (talk) 23:50, 28 November 2016 (UTC) Yeah, how coincidental that the wrestling fraternity (good and bad) is all over the article of the hottest pro wrestler of the moment. Meanwhile, is Trepcost's vandalism going to be addressed? SierraHotelIndiaEchoLimaDelta (talk) 23:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * And which diffs are you concerned about with Trepcost? -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 23:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, he's constantly reverting this edit. In doing so he's reintroducing a source (Inquisitr) that's banned by the pro wrestling section (WP:PW/RS), removing PWInsider and Bryan Alvarez cites (preferred on the section), and generally loading the article with intolerable puffery unsuitable for an encyclopedia. SierraHotelIndiaEchoLimaDelta (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

- matches MO of prior sock. Thank you for the master....  SPI initiated. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 23:48, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for that, I was actually in the process of filing one before you beat me to it. This situation also reeks of LTA. Sro23 (talk) 00:11, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for grabbing more diffs and doing that as well! Awesome collaboration on this.  I was familiar after that random IP used similar edit summaries and then went crazy on my talk page a few days ago.  The behavior was way too similar. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  00:13, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * After being a long time target of the IP for months and seeing the Contributions of SHIELD, I'm gonna have to agree it is the same person. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 00:47, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

✅ to The abominable Wiki troll. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 01:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC) −
 * If this is about WP:ANI, it looks like the same person based on the edit summaries (accusations of vandalism), but I can't look into it much on mobile right now. If it is the same IP, I suggest a link to this discussion be posted on the ANI thread so that, if someone ends up looking for evidence in the future, they can get the full story.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 01:17, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Well now that it's public that's who I suspected all along but I didn't have enough proof with just IPs. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 01:36, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * , good to see you back. I've seen you around Oshwah's talk page, and I've just read up on the harassment you've been on the receiving end of. Please do reconsider your voluntary wikibreak. I know experiences like this can be off-putting; heck, I was almost put off editing when I was impersonated. When you primarily work in counter-vandalism like myself (and Oshwah!) things like this are commonplace - just another day at the office for us. It's always best to revert and ignore, and in the case of trolls, deny recognition. Patient Zerotalk 14:10, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You'll notice that WMWT's userpage doesn't say they're indefinitely blocking themselves anymore. Also, there's a thread on ANI that was recently closed about this.  See WP:ANI.
 * I don't think I've mentioned this to you before, but there was one time when I was harassed, too. I found a user creating inappropriate welcome messages (which included a picture of a middle finger).  I started undoing them and marking some for speedy deletion, and, when they caught on, they started undoing me and creating inappropriate pages with my username in the title which (I believe) have since been Oversighted.  Thankfully, the user (and their IP when they started using that instead) were both blocked eventually.  It was 3am EST, so it took a little longer than it would have during the day to get help, even with the IRC channel.  I was freaking out, to say the least.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 16:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

While yes I have unblocked myself so to speak, I am mainly just watching and only editting when it's needed. Im 90% sure I've already seen TAWT show up again under 2 different IPs on another users talk page, so presently it's just watching with little edits. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 03:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you mind linking those two talk pages so we can look into it? It would also give us more information if we need to do another rangeblock.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 04:50, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Done on same user page, 2 diff IPs.Geolocate to same area. After dealing with them the last 5 months and the fact they picked this user whom has had run ins with TAWT and not taking thier "concerns" to an Admin screams sock of TAWT they were also called out on it once by Sro23 as you can see here <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 05:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's him alright. Despite all the abuse, TAWT sort of fascinates me, and I've recently begun to keep track of IP addresses and accounts used by him, since this person always returns to the same articles. He mainly edits as an IP but will use registered sock accounts to edit semi-protected articles. Most of the IPs are webhosts or open proxies, I think. Sro23 (talk) 05:20, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * He isn't very good at being sneaky though. I mean, I am even starting to get better at being able to spot him.  I do usually defer to WMWT or Gestrid though if I don't know for sure. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  05:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * To be honest, this is my first time (that I remember) actually being involved in a problem involving TAWT. But their edits are just so blatantly obvious that they're not that hard to identify.  It's almost as if they went to an admin's talk page and moved it somewhere else.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 05:29, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, making sure sees this discussion.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 05:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for tagging me. I'm very familiar with TAWT but missed most of this current incident, besides when an IP made a post concerning the Bill Goldberg article a few weeks ago on WT:PW. Ironically, the first time I met Chris I defended him from accusations that he was TAWT, so I think I have a good eye for this. In retrospect, it looks like TAWT targeted Chris from the very beginning. He usually uses a few accounts at the same time, so overlapping behavior is harder to identify and it's not unusual for him to appear to lend a WP:GOODHAND. SierraHotelIndiaEchoLimaDelta's first edit was to create an article that Starship.paint and I had discussed creating a few months ago. Like I said on my talk page, I actually side with him on the Goldberg content dispute. In any case, I'll go ahead and add Bill Goldberg and Chris's user page to my watchlist, TAWT has enough spare accounts to continue harassment through his autoconfirmed accounts. I've found that he usually uses his autoconfirmed accounts for blatant vandalism when he's exposed. Unlike other socks I've dealt with, he usually admits the sockpuppetry right away. He has been doing this long enough so that losing a disposable account means little to him.LM2000 (talk) 10:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep and it was during the Mastino incident that I was accused of being TAWT and it was right after that when I proved I wasn't that I started getting targeted by the jumping IPs. I pretty much knew it was them from the beginning just didn't have the proof to back it up. they won't be hitting my page or talk for awhile Oshwah put both on Indefinite lock down, confirmed users only. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 17:46, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * He appears to have returned. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 15:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * And he's gone. Could we please just indefinitely semi the article until it appears the disruption surrounding this sock appears to have died down?  I'm getting tired of having to deal with them.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 17:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It got more temporary protection but I think we need a few more temps before we'll convince anyone to indef it. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 17:09, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. Three protections in one month probably isn't quite enough for indef, though I would think it would be enough for more than just two weeks.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 17:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Would you consider a longer protection period for this article that is being targeted by a LTA?  makes a good point about 3 protections in one month. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  17:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I saw him first thing yesterday and let Oshwah know about it and he blocked for 31hrs. He's not real good at hiding who he is. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 17:29, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Either that or he wants us to know it's him.  — Gestrid  ( talk ) 17:30, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Samsara extended the protection until January 2nd, 2017. But it sounds like he's popping up in other parts of the project as well so i'll keep an eye out. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  01:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Using only warning on a user who had never edited before
Hi, I noticed that before you reverted it, your warning to was using the only warning template. I didn't see any previous reasons for this and it looked like biting a newcomer to me. Could you explain why you used the only warning template instead of the welcome template or the first warning template? NOTNOTABLE (talk) 01:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I used the only warning template (which I reverted because your warning went before mine and it is inappropriate to warn twice or override another users level) as this was obvious blanking vandalism. If this user had edited and accidentally deleted a section, I would have used a lesser warning, but in the case where vandalism-intent is evident (large blanking), I evaluate the edit and use the appropriate warning level. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  02:07, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to expand a bit, this is how I determined the edit to be "severe enough" for a 4im-warning:


 * 1) Removed content was over 5,000 bytes
 * 2) Edit summary was "D" (Assuming this meant "delete")
 * 3) Content added was a random word that could not be related to the article.
 * -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 02:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That does make sense, but I'm more of the type who assumes good faith until either they keep going or show very intentional bad faith. It could be possible that someone was trying to edit that section, accidentally selected the whole thing somehow, and either typed out the word they were writing before finishing (and an e) then panicked while typing out an edit summary saying "Don't put this edit through, I accidentally deleted the section!", missed the "o" key and hit enter, and the edit was created. Sure, it's a very odd series of events, but there is a Christmas movie written by Ice Cube, and apparently it includes a line about Kwanzaa, so... This is an odd series of events, but frankly it's just me trying to make a point. Basically, people can and do completely fail to understand how Wikipedia works and it happens fairly often. NOTNOTABLE (talk) 02:25, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your explanation.  I definitely understand your point of view and I think it could go either way.  I am familiar with the vandalism at this article and took that into account as well. I think I will adjust my warning thought process a bit though, you made some good points here.  I appreciate the feedback! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  02:33, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Not to mention, vandals can become good editors if treated correctly. I rarely use the 4im template and instead mainly use the other four.  The only recent time that I remember using 4im was for a major BLP violation that had to be RevDeled.  —  Gestrid  ( talk ) 03:44, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I have reviewed some other examples of when 4im is used and will be changing my usage of that template for rare situations. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  03:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Apologies
I had thought I had put in an edit summary. Boötes (talk) 21:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No apology needed. You actually did have an edit summary of "Redirect", but there doesn't appear to be consensus on the talk page for the redirect and it removes a significant portion of content without merging it (unless I missed some sort of merge?) - This was definitely good faith but I think a discussion should be had at the talk page prior to redirecting that. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 21:24, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

There were only two citations throughout the whole article, making the article practically invalid. Boötes (talk) 21:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We would want to use the template for that situation.  It doesn't necessarily invalidate the article. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  21:24, 3 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I am still new. Thanks for the info, I'll use it next time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boötes (talk • contribs) 21:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)


 * No problem. Feel free to reach out if you need any more help :). I also left a welcome message on your talk page which may help you learn a bit more about editing here. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  21:32, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for everything.....
Thanks for everything, your assistance and friendship will be missed. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 12:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Of course!! Sorry to see you go! I wish you luck and hope that you may decide to return to the project after a wiki break. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 13:34, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Talk:The Love of the Last Tycoon
Do you mean move to "The Last Tycoon" or "The Last Tycoon (novel)"? If unsure, why not relist? --George Ho (talk) 09:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * "The Last Tycoon" per the way the request was filed and debated. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 13:31, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Why is it not moved yet? Would you request to be a page mover. Otherwise, shall I do it? George Ho (talk) 19:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Its currently awaiting move once the G6 on the target is handled. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 20:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Chinese pinyin redirects at Articles for creation/Redirects
In the future, please do not decline Chinese language redirects without checking if the romanization is listed on the article's page. I had to revert several of your closures because they declined redirects that were pinyin romanizations of the article subject names without the tone markings (which we never expect English readers to be familiar with per WP:DIACRITICS). If are not sure, you can always plug the characters listed on the page into Google Translate and get the romanization in pinyin. If the romanization is missing but correct, you can add to the article lede it using zh and/or use the relevant parameter in whatever infobox the page is using. Thanks, Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know, I really appreciate it! I must've been running it through Google wrong, I actually did run the terms there but wasn't matching what the redirect requests were for.  I'll look at them again later and play with it so I can figure out where I was making the mistake in the verification. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  12:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok. To be clear, Google Translate will give you a pinyin with the tone markings included (macrons, grave and acute accents, circumflexes, to use English names). Per WP:DIACRITICS, we don't require readers to be familiar with those tone markings, so creating redirects from unmarked pinyin romanizations is perfectly fine. It's easy to do with the AFC/R script, and since the IP editor making requests for redirects with tone markings, those are harder to do – though it is commendable that you did one by yourself. A second point is that some articles will use numbers alongside romanization to indicate tones in the Chinese name, so that Mā would be Ma1, Hé would become He2, Bî would be Bi3, Lù would be Lu4. Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism
There is this Anonymous user who keeps on  vandalizing and I can warn this user so I'm coming to you for help the user up address is 101.182.143.185 MatthewTardiff 17:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)
 * I will take a look. Thanks! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 17:27, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

No problem MatthewTardiff 19:01, 5 December 2016 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 19:01, 5 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

Xparta again
GermanSherman looks to be another manifestation of Xparta, and their new article, Odi Kobo, should redirect to O. D. Kobo. Edwardx (talk) 11:03, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Added to the SPI. Thank you for letting me know, ill keep an eye out too for him! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  12:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * And thank you for your prompt and efficient action. They do seem to be rather persistent. Edwardx (talk) 12:26, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. Xparta is definitely looking more and more like paid editing based on their contributions. Let me know if you see anymore.  I also saw this last one made contributions to Ronny Kobo of a promotional nature. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  23:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Please review
I would like to know your opinions regarding my revised draft for this previously deleted article: User:Dodgetherocks/Surya_K._Jayaweera. Please let me know your comments on my talk page. Dodgetherocks (talk) 22:53, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * until aprox. December 5th when I can take some time to devote to review this and give feedback. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 16:01, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * - I will post my findings shortly. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 07:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Review Results
✅ Your lead section has a claim of importance, however, it contains information not included in the rest of the article. It says Jayaweera is a mentor, but the article doesn't go on to speak about this or cite any sources to that claim. I would expand the article to include information with reliable sources if you want to keep that part in there. In the career section, it starts with a claim that he had dreamed of being an inventor since childhood. There is no cited source for that.

The beginning paragraph of Wolfetech Development Corporation requires some citations to claims, especially on dates. In the Other Activities section, please cite a source for his teaching activities as well. I would suggest removing the link to his LinkedIn page as it is not a reliable source. Overall, the article is a good start - I am a little concerned that it reads like a resume than an actual encyclopedia entry though. It does not contain an early life or personal life section (in fact, there were only brief mentions of these aspects and they were related to the business). I would try to expand the article - I suggest reading additional biographies on Wikipedia to help you understand the way they are written. Finally, if you have a connection to this person, please be sure to disclose it per the conflict of interest policy as we must disclose this and any type of paid editing.

Reference Checks:
 * Source 1 does not indicate the classes he studied. Are these present in source #2?
 * Source 4 is a good source with no problems found.
 * Source 9 is good and verifies the information around it.
 * Source 10 is a dead link and must be replaced or removed along with the claim related to it.
 * Sources 11 and 12 are good and verify the information around them.
 * Source 13 is considered a primary source and not a third party source. Given the nature of the claim it is verifying, it is allowed and acceptable.
 * Source 14 verifies part of the information around it.
 * Source 15 must be fixed or removed as it does not verify the claim it is attached to.
 * Source 16 is a primary source that cannot be verified to be independent. I suggest replacing it with an independent source.
 * Source 17 is good and verifies the information.
 * Source 18 is a user generated source and must be removed as it is not considered a reliable source for information.
 * Sources 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 were unable to be verified as they appear to be resources I do not have access to.

I hope this helped. Let me know if you have any questions. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 07:51, 3 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm being asked by the client to write this, but currently not being paid to do so. Your criticism mostly touched on issues I had expected to hear and the difficulties on writing this: a lot of this information can't be verified online from independent sources or is too closely tied to his work as you said.


 * Wolfetech's origins, mentions of childhood dream, and his driving to COMDEX are mentioned in the written analog interviews. All of the dates I've found are only in written interviews and none of them have been put online. On top of that, most of that would be reused citations from PocketGenie.


 * Reference specific questions
 * Wolfetech dates are in the written analog sources. I can't find online sources that replicate them that aren't first party. Would I need to remove the dates too?
 * Source 1 is to verify that he's an alumni. Source 2 does mention the specific classes since that was written while he was attending.
 * If I can't use Source 16 as a verifiable source, that means I'll have to remove his mentoring mention and his Samsung history too. Right?
 * Sources 10 and Source 15 can be found through the Internet Wayback archive. Could those be used?
 * Would patents and trademarks be viable references?

Dodgetherocks (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)


 * So once this article is moved to main space you will need to tag the talk page and disclose your COI as unpaid editing. Now, on to your questions!
 * Most likely would have to remove the dates. Wikipedia does allow offline referencing but it's hard to defend if an editor challenges it.
 * Source 2 you said verifies the classes he is in. I will try to locate it in a records locator and request a copy.
 * Correct, anything associated with Source 16 would need to be removed if not replaced with a different non-primary source.
 * Source 10 and 15 can be links to the archive link.
 * Trademark registrations can that are verifiable can be used.
 * Hope this helps! -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 23:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * One question real quick: Would I be able to use this news report at all? Dodgetherocks (talk) 02:06, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe that would be acceptable. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk 02:08, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Thankyou for helping with AfD
Thanktyou for your contributions to beauty pageant winner related articles for deletion discussions. These discussions suffer from a low level of discussion so it is good to see people contributing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:02, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! I've noticed the same thing...for whatever reason they have such low discussion levels.  I have a feeling that there is an uncertainty about how pageant winners may or may not be notable and maybe that causes people to just abstain altogether?  Just a theory of mine. --  Dane  talk  19:54, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Sandbox and moving incomplete article to my space that you made for me
Hi Dane, Even though my article is far from complete I am going to put it in the space that you gave me and work on it in there. The reason for this is my sandbox is full, and I need to open some more spaces, but do not yet know how to do so. But I am getting some help very soon and may learn how to do so soon.


 * Sounds good! I will pop in to take a look at it tomorrow when i'm done working.  I checked my undelete request for the "Afterburner (Transformers)" article and it hasn't been responded to yet, so hopefully that happens soon as well. --  Dane  talk  04:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Debra Ruh
Hi Dane,

I am kind of new to the details of the deletion process. This article has only received "keep" votes since November 4, after I had expanded the article and added quite a number of reliable, secondary sources. It was relisted on November 7 by you, and has two more keep votes since then. The original nominator also changed his/her vote to "keep".

What is the process for closing the discussion? Thanks!-- CaroleHenson (talk) 16:08, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I have re-reviewed the AfD with the new votes/consensus and the article. Everything checks out so I have closed the AfD as keep. Thank you so much for your hard work! Feel free to let me know if you need any more help. --  Dane talk  17:54, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much!-- CaroleHenson (talk) 18:06, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Getting and giving information
Hi Dane, I am now making a page on a 1993 missing person and I will let you see it when before I post it. The transformers Technobot after was deleted, is it possible to view the page to see what it looked like before, and see why it was deleted?

User:DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 21:19, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi David! Glad to hear you're working on another missing person article!  In terms of the transformers article, I see the deletion log shows a version deleted in February 2011.  Is that the version of the page you're after or am I mistaken?  If so, we can request a copy of the page per WP:REFUND, assuming there's no other policy preventing it. --  Dane  talk  21:23, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dane, I was refering to the transformer Technobot Afterburner, could you please request a copy of the page and then send it to me?


 * Understood. I will request this undeletion and restore it to your user space.  Thanks! --  Dane  talk  21:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Dane talk  21:00, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Meetup invite
Hello. Here's an event happening soon. Might you be able to make it? Jonathunder (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

User: Magentic Manifestations is showing biased and incorrect information.
This user has been showing biased and incorrect information in the wiki page "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_cities_by_GDP_per_capita". The brookings report shown in this page contradicts with many other reports like McKinsey report, PWC report and the respective government reports. For example, the Bangalore cities nominal per capita is shown in brookings report as very less (1420$). This is incorrect. According to state governemnt report, bangalore has a per capita of almost 3000$,(http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/bengaluru-urban-tops-state-in-per-capita-income-kalaburagi-last/article8376124.ece). Also if you check the MCkinesy report or PWC report, Bangalore has much higher GDP (http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/08/07/the-most-dynamic-cities-of-2025/), (https://web.archive.org/web/20110504031739/https://www.ukmediacentre.pwc.com/imagelibrary/downloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=1562). In order to prove the credibility of the brookings report, one ore more reference from an entire different source is required to confirm the report. However ,other reports shows entirely different figures and due to this the brookings report alone cannot be taken into consideration. This user like to show wrong information by only relying on one wrong report by brookings and has been playing with this for a long period of time. Wikipedia should be transparent and should not show wrong information. So we want this page to be either corrected or deleted. The page only has one reference from one source and a continuous request to add another reference or source has been turned down by this user and this user wants to continually shows the wrong information according to his own wishes and also this user will request for page protection after he edits the page according to his wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ning Shen zhu (talk • contribs) 07:09, 12 December 2016 (UTC) +

My next article and deleted pages
Hi Dane, Have you checked out my article yet? I did some work on it yesterday. Three transformer pages have been deleted recently, including the one the Afterburner one, and I believe there was no need for this. What do you think about this?


 * Hi David. I plan on reviewing your article tomorrow and potentially helping expand/copyedit it.  What other transformer pages have been deleted?  Were they through the AfD process or another process if you know? --  Dane  talk  00:37, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, some things came up and I wasn't able to get to this tonight. I will be looking at it tomorrow (Friday, December 16th, 2016). --  Dane  talk  05:28, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Working on this now. --  Dane talk  20:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have finished my improvements to the article. It looks good!! --  Dane  talk  22:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dane, the article seems to be very short, do you think it could be expanded? Also it could use some more references as well. DavidgoodheartDavidgoodheart (talk) 22:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I did a search but a lot of the information I found was repeated in the existing sources. I'm not sure there is much more to add in to the article. --  Dane  talk  22:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi David, I copyedited and added some maintenance tags to your recent changes to the article to assist. I also saw you found some more sources that you've cited very well! --  Dane  talk  04:59, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Deleted pages and finalizing article
Hi Dane, The other transformers pages that were deleted were headmasters Highbrow and Throttlebot Searchlight. I am about to add one more sentence to the article then I will be done with adding to it. Only two things about need to be addressed: Can you fix where it says -2 months, should it just say 2 months? And the birth date, the first source says born in 1967, but not that day or month she was born, the second source say the month and day she was born but it says born 1966 not 1967, What should be done about this? When you figure out what to do, please add a picture and then I will post the article, and if there is a speedy deletion, we will combat it!


 * I have fixed the template. 1966 appears to be the correct date of birth...  (We use 1992 since her birthday for 1993 had not yet occurred) and more sources state she was 26 years old at the time of disappearance than 25 years old.  I would suggest publishing this one without a photo for now as I will need to verify licenses for the photos on this one since they aren't available from the same source as before.  (Photo Licenses and Wikipedia can be tricky which is usually why I post the photos later, as I have to verify licenses that could apply)  In terms of the Transformers pages, I will see what I can find in regards to them - You can likely get copies to work on using the same WP:REFUND process we used before. --  Dane  talk  01:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dane, thanks for fixing the citation, I made mistake when posing the page, Could you please rename it Annie McCarrick, as I named it Anne McCarrick. Thanks


 * No problem! I caught it right away :-).  Annie McCarrick is now the pages name. --  Dane  talk  02:59, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dane, Thank you so much for your help! Your are the most smartest wiki editor I know, and my biggest help, since I can rarely get the help that I need. Please check out List of people who disappeared mysteriously under 1994, as Michael Anthony Hughes is not properly formatted. Do you know how to photo shop or make YouTube videos?


 * Thank you for the kind words, David I appreciate them and am always glad I can help! I have updated the listing for Michael Anthony Hughes.  I can photoshop depending on the level of editing needed; i'm afraid i'm not great at making YouTube videos though. --  Dane  talk  03:38, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Xparta (yet again)
Very similar looking changes to Bebo Kobo that we have seen before, this time from an IP editor, who has been active on O. D. Kobo and Hezi Bezalel in the past. Season's greetings. Edwardx (talk) 15:19, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * SPI open for this. It's definitely him based on the IP range. Seasons Greetings to you as well, thank you for catching this! --  Dane talk  19:44, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reopening the SPI. Edwardx (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Thank you !!! You as well, I appreciate it :-). --  Dane  talk  23:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Two AfDs
Hi Dane, You helped me out with an AfD awhile back, so I thought I would touch base with you to see if you could look at the James Cantine AfD and Rabia Salihu Sa'id AfD discussions to see if you think that there are enough votes there now to make a decision about the responses and close them. If this is an appropriate request, please let me know. Thanks.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in my response, i've been busy preparing for the holiday. I see the Rabia Salihu Sa'id AfD has closed as keep.  In terms of the James Cantine AfD, I have reviewed the AfD as well as the arguments and !votes of both sides and determined that the general notability guideline has been satisfied, which is what the original nominator was citing as a reason for removing the article. --  Dane  talk  23:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! Have a happy holiday!— CaroleHenson &thinsp; (talk) 23:54, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! You as well! --  Dane talk  23:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas!!
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Merry Christmas
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Merry, merry!
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:35, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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Your undoing others' contributions
You are performing a great job fighting AGAINST attempts for a more formal style of the articles and FOR a table-talk style. Well, if that's what you prefer... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.39.89.121 (talk) 00:26, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * My apologies, there was an extra space in your edit. It was on my list to go back to and add back in without the space.  I went ahead and did that now.  Thank you for the contribution! --  Dane  talk  00:38, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism
This user TDOldSpice is consistently adding and removing things and adding unreliable sources I have warned this user twice, I will not take the fall for this user  MatthewTardiff 00:13, 30 December 2016 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

I have taken down the unreliable sources twice and this user continues to add them MatthewTardiff 00:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 00:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)
 * I have given the user some guidance regarding WP:AGF. I would be a little softer in your wording when you're first warning by the way (just to avoid inflaming the situation).  I will monitor the article as well. Thanks! --  Dane  talk  00:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I will work on my wording and avoid escalating the situation and thank you for the assistance (MatthewTardiff 00:34, 30 December 2016 (UTC)) MatthewTardiff 00:34, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! Always happy to help!  --  Dane  talk  00:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Always good to get the situation settled (MatthewTardiff 00:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)) MatthewTardiff 00:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

That same user TDoldspice was vandalizing again MatthewTardiff 00:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)
 * Restored stable version of Grado (wrestler) and gave user a warning. Will check other contributions from them as well.  Thanks. --  Dane  talk  00:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

He is at it again MatthewTardiff 00:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year Dane!
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Happy New Year!
Happy new year to you!!! cyɾʋs ɴɵtɵ3at BULAGA!!! 02:31, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Big Show's weight
WWE's bio contradicts itself: written portion of bio states '441' yet 'superstar stats' says '450'. Not sure what should be done; annoying, but not surprising, that WWE doesn't have it straight. I appreciate your thanks of my previous edits. Happy new year. InFlamester20 (talk) 02:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Good point!! I didn't realize the conflicting information there, I saw the 441 first and figured that was it.  Thanks for letting me know and happy new year to you as well :). --  Dane  talk  02:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Dane!
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Vandilism/removal
This user Brandmeenn is constantly vandalizing and removing things on Goldberg and others I have fixed things three times and warned him once he still continues to do it MatthewTardiff 00:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)
 * I reviewed your warning and the users contributions. If your warning does not stop the behavior and it continues after this point, we will need to give another warning such as  . --  Dane  talk  03:59, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I understand (MatthewTardiff 05:06, 2 January 2017 (UTC)) MatthewTardiff 05:06, 2 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

I have used as  to the user and he continues to vandalize can you please review it thanks MatthewTardiff 18:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 18:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

I noticed that on MatthewTardiff talkpage, Brandmeenn accuses him of calling Brandmeenn a "puppet", but I couldn't find where MatthewTardiff did that. Maybe Brandmeenn is the usual suspect/sockpuppet. As can be seen at Sockpuppet investigations/The abominable Wiki troll, it's very active recently. --Trepcost (talk) 20:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Very good point! This matches part of his M.O. --  Dane talk  20:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you evaluate these edits to see if this matches our old sock friend? I'm at work for another couple hours and cannot do it currently while mobile. --  Dane talk  20:51, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll do my best, but I've just returned from a wikibreak and I'm catching up on everything in my Wikipedia inbox. I got over 200 emails from Wikipedia within about 2 weeks.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 21:00, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh my, that's quite a bit. Thank you and welcome back! --  Dane  talk  00:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I've been watching them ready. I'm 80% sure it TAWT. Ive said nothing because I want to be 100% sure. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 21:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the welcome back. As for the amount of emails I have, I usually keep an eye on a page whenever I notice vandalism on via Huggle so I can revert it again if the vandal continues.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 00:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I just got home and reviewed their edits...I'm uncertain...some of their editing seems like it could be but other edits seem like maybe not. I don't think it's enough for a CheckUser yet. --  Dane  talk  00:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe can help us out, as he's probably most familiar with this sockpuppet, and was the one who initially caught this sock at Bill Goldberg article.--Trepcost (talk) 22:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Who, Brandmeenn? That's not TAWT. It's just another edit warrior who coincidentally shares in interest in wrestlers. There are more differences than similarities between this user and TAWT. Sro23 (talk) 22:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't be sure it's TAWT either....in terms of the puppet thing, that somewhat matches the MO but not enough edits in my opinion yet to show a link. --  Dane talk  00:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. If you don't think it's him, then it's not him. Maybe sock of another banned editor.--Trepcost (talk) 23:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

BTW, is currently reverting a block-evading LTA vandal, some of whose accounts include  currently unblocked Quiggazi, and also many IPs. If anyone has time, see Sro23's recent contribution, and help him in his fight against the LTA vandal.--Trepcost (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for letting me know. This user may need to be taken to the edit warring noticeboard - but they have not yet breached WP:3RR unless i've missed something. --  Dane  talk  00:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry we are talking about 2 different users. My mistake was out eattin and misread. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 00:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Just wanted to bring it to your attention cause I've been trying to explain to this user how it works but I'm not getting through and maybe it's the way I word things but if someone could possibly message that user it would be a blessing cause the user is not understanding how I'm explaining to them thanks MatthewTardiff 00:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 00:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

Ferrari Cars
Hi Dane, Thanks for your message. No problem for reverting the Ferrari P page. However, I must inform you that the Glickenhaus P4/5 cars have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Ferrari P cars which were specifically Prototype Ferrari racing cars with rear engines (P for Posterior) from the 1960s made by Enzo Ferrari's Ferrari Racing Department. They were World Championship winning cars by winning races such as Le Mans, Daytona, Spa, Nurburgring, Monza, Branda Hatch, Targa Florio etc. The P4/5 cars are merely rebodied homages to these legendary 1960s racing Ferrari cars based on Ferrari road cars commissioned by James Glickenhaus and were not commissioned by Ferrari at all. These P4/5 Glickenhaus homage cars from 40 years later, made years after the year 2000 have no relation to the racing Ferrari P cars from the 1960s. Therefore, it is not justified that they should share the same Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miurasvjota (talk • contribs) 03:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'm not an expert in this subject so I appreciate the clarification - I primarily reverted because there was no edit summary and it appeared to remove a large amount of content.  I have gone ahead and restored your edit without prejudice to another users evaluation.  Happy new year! --  Dane  talk  03:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you again for your reply, Dane. If I may just further clarify that the Glickenhaus P4/5 Competizione modified car(s) based on the Ferrari 430 built for racing are not even allowed to be called Ferrari(s). They are called Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus 003 I believe. The other P4/5 car which was based on a Ferrari Enzo, rebodied by Pininfarina is not a racing car as the Ferrari P cars were. Of course if Mr Glickenhaus or his followers want to write a separate Wikipedia page devoted to the cars Mr Glickenahus has named P4/5 then that would be entirely justified, but there is no justification for them being categorised in the same group of cars as the Ferrari P cars. Miurasvjota (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Following on from my message above dated 3rd January, 2017 there is actually already a Wikipedia page dedicated to the P4/5 cars of Mr Glickenhaus. See link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_P4/5_by_Pininfarina Miurasvjota (talk) 23:54, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Brandmeenn
This user keeps on removing key parts of the articles the names of the articles etc I have changed back a few but I have reported this before and nothing was done MatthewTardiff 18:50, 5 January 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)
 * I have issued an edit warring notice to the user. Please start a discussion at the talk pages if you revert his edits again and attempt to collaborate with him on changes that may be effective in the articles.  I will monitor his talk page. --  Dane  talk  19:32, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable I will do that MatthewTardiff 19:51, 5 January 2017 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 19:51, 5 January 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

Thank you for your email, photo shopping, and YouTube videos
Hi Dane, thanks for your email and happy new years to you too! I was going to email you and wish you happy new year, but you beat me to it. I plan to make some YouTube video, some just for my own use, and some that I will post on YouTube. The ones that I am making for myself I am using photos for them that need to be photo shopped. My half brother photo shopped the same photo twice but it still needs photo shopping before I use it for my future video. He was also the person who photo shopped the don't look now logo on the don't look now Wikipedia page that I created when I asked him too, because I could not have the slime society picture on the logo. The YouTube videos that I plan to make that I will post on YouTube are comparing Don't Look Now and UFO kidnapped to YCDTOTV. Those articles say leave citations before remove template messages, and since there is no written info that I can leave, I need to make videos for citations to leave on Wikipedia, and these videos will also be featured on YouTube as well. Would you like to exchange emails? I have left my email in the box that you made for me, when you have please erase it because I do not like to have this information public. I look forward to hearing from you.
 * Hi David!! I had the subpage deleted and recreated with blank history since you put your email there.  I did not want it to be in the history for people to find in the diffs.  I prefer not to go to email as a means of exchanging messages as I like to have a record of my wikiwork on my talk page (this is my policy for everyone on wiki), however, I do have this email page enabled if you do need to send an email.  It goes directly to my phone for anything that's urgent and requires my immediate response.  Please note that wiki-code does not work in those emails.  When you finish the videos i'd be happy to review them to ensure they meet the citation standards.  I'm not quite clear on the photoshopping piece, is there still work needing to be photoshopped?  Look forward to working with you more in 2017! --  Dane  talk  03:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

An article I have added to
Hi Dane, how is everything? could you please check out The Powers of Pain article where I have added a history section. My concern is history and Jim Crocket Promotions might be a bit to similar, or not entirely correctly worded. If you think it needs changes can you please make some? Thanks.


 * Nothing stands out as too concerning to me with that but I am going to ping WarMachineWildThing who is really good with wrestling articles. He might have some more insight. --  Dane  talk  02:02, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you take a look at this article and the changes implemented by Davidgoodheart and let us know if there are any concerns relating to similarity? I don't see any obvious issues with grammar.  Thanks! --  Dane  talk  02:02, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanking you, what I have going on, and article spaces
Hi Dane, thanks for fixing those external links! I am going to be taking a computer course that should be able to help me with my computer need such as making YouTube videos. Could you please make some more boxes for me that are the same the one that you made for me, as I plan to write more articles. I plan to make an article on YCDTOTV spin-off Whatever turns you on, Canadian wrestler Chelsea Green, Adler's Appetite second album, (Alive (2012)) and some transformers articles. As I only use my sandbox to write in my articles often get mixed up.



Do we have any sources about them being the Super Assassins in WCW?, while it is correct I think having a source showing it would be good just in case someone decides to stir up a stink over it. As for the Article itself I don't see any issues with it. Seems very well written to me. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 02:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

StubHub Revert
Hi Dane, RE: your removal of my edit on the StubHub article. There is currently a social media controversy about their refusal to assist a customer who received tickets clearly marked for the same event from a previous year. At the very least, there should be a section added to the main article dedicated to controversies involving the company, as this is not the first time they have been involved in such a scandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.89.121.252 (talk) 05:50, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Your edits constitute vandalism. You must source this "controversy" using our reliable sourcing policy and maintain a neutral point of view. --  Dane  talk  05:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

FYI
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrouchy_Potato&type=revision&diff=758567084&oldid=758567063 Error. Undone.] Thanks for helping fight and reporting the persistent disruptive editing, though. --JustBerry (talk) 05:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --  Dane talk  05:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

RfA
Hi Dane. I dislike on-page heckling of opposers to RfAs, so I hope you don't mind me posting here.

If you choose to remain with your opinion after seeing this message, that's fine, but I felt your comments made it clear that you'd missed a significant chunk of important text in the RfA.

You said, "As for the desire to work on the main page, I can respect that and did not catch that request in my review of the candidate".

That's fair enough, but it implies that you didn't find the time to read the nominations, each of which mentions this. In particular, my nomination statement spent about a third of my word count on the "need for the tools" argument and just how useful Eadlgyth will be on Main page.

In addition, the candidate herself mentions it in response to the question about using the tools.

I'd be grateful if you take the time to return to the RfA and read the nominations. Like I say, if you choose to leave things alone, that's your call and you'll here no more from me on the matter unless you ping me. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the message - I am always open to dialogue about anything I do here. I must admit that I did miss the co-nominations when reviewing the RfA.  I did, however, read the part from Ritchie about her desire to work at WP:ERRORS, though I didn't connect the requirements for that all the way through (even after reading her response to Question 1).  That being said, I am going to do a more reviewing of this candidate to see if my decision sways to at least Neutral.  I am still concerned about activity level (which itself is controversial at RfA, I know) as well as the desire to work in WP:RFPP with no experience in actually making those requests. I would like to extend my thanks to you again for sharing your feedback, I do appreciate it! --  Dane  talk  11:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dane. I appreciate the tone, as well as the content of your response. Admirable. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:59, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I have manually reviewed a further 300 edits from her work and re-read the entire RfA (including all of the votes). After my re-review, I withdrew the concern regarding a need for the tools as well as moved from Oppose to Neutral.  My concerns regarding WP:RFPP and activity level remain, but they are a small part of my judgement when compared to everything else with the candidate.  Thank you again for bringing this here to me and laying out an in detail why I need to re-review this.  Happy New Year! --  Dane  talk  19:50, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * A Wikipedian prepared to reconsider something and ... even change their mind? How extraordinary. Well done, you. Thanks, --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:38, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Usernames/UAA
Hey, I had to oversight your UAA report. Could you please report such usernames directly to oversight instead of a noticeboard and if possible find a a checkuser also when you find these names? We apply WP:DENY to these users and the names are oversighted for...the appropriateness shall we say. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll be sure to send those to OS next time and not post them at UAA. --  Dane talk  16:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Evlekis
Hello. I noticed your multiple reports at SPI and thought I'd tell you that there's no point in requesting a CU-check for sleepers since Evlekis operates on a (currently range-blocked) /64-net (with 65,536 IPs), and can easily switch between IP's, possibly even getting a new IP for each old sock he re-activates, making it impossible for a CU to find them. And since they're already blocked there's no point in adding them to the SPI (see WP:DENY), the CUs also have more than enough to do anyway, so if you find more re-activated socks just contact an admin and ask for a revdel of his rants and removal of talk page access. Cheers, - Tom &#124; Thomas.W talk 21:33, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with 's comment that CU isn't helpful when dealing with these older, blocked accounts that aren't editing anything but their talk pages. We can simply revoke TPA and be done with it because he's not able right now to get past that rangeblock (though if he uses a new range, that could help us – we can tell if it's him on an IPv6 range just as we can if he's using an IPv4 range.). If there are newer accounts, definitely file at SPI. If I can't run CU, or if I have too much to do, I'll be sure to tell you. I'm not shy. :-) Katietalk 21:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Border Morris Disguise Contribution reverted
I'm curious if you will explain why you regarded my contributions as not constructive. They pertained directly to the context of blackface and disguise in the surrounding period of history from which morris is reputed to have developed, including addressing some related citations of it's link to pagan themes. How is this not relevant or constructive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.214.169.69 (talk) 01:54, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I apologize, I just meant to undo your very last addition of the link. It should go in the External Links as it seems to be a more appropriate spot for it. --  Dane  talk  02:02, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay. I see that. Thank you. I included it because the archaic language could use a bit of context. In this case Hyrste relates to a hillock, such as a hollow hill. Having the etymology makes that clear. Considering putting it in the external links, I feel it's unlikely to provide the needed context. If it's going to be included it would serve it's purpose more directly by linking from the associated word itself.

Bill Goldberg
The article has been unprotected for only a day, and it became the target of vandalism twice (possibly by the same banned editor). You reverted the first vandalism and now this, which is yet to be reverted.--Trepcost (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've reverted the changes (mass rv "Billy" -> "Bill") and requested page protection again.  I didn't catch the other IP vandal. --  Dane  talk  05:48, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This has been protected until January 12, 2017. --  Dane talk  19:34, 5 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much!--Trepcost (talk) 05:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

External links need fixing
Hi Dane, Thanks for your help!, I have fixed up the The Powers of Pain article, but it has some http external links that need fixing. And The Hart Foundation external link 25 need fixing, could you please fix those? Thanks


 * These issues have been fixed. Thanks! --  Dane  talk  07:31, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Re:Redirects for creation
I've left new messages on the requests you've declined here. 2605:6000:ED08:DD00:F0F4:A897:DAC8:5362 (talk) 02:04, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I see the link to the category but I do not see a demonstrated relevance for the search terms as being likely or necessary in terms of needing redirects. Can you show something more to show that these are common search terms? --  Dane  talk  02:08, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Dane, if you take a quick look at the IP's contributions, they have made quite a few past AFC/R requests for Farm-to-Market Roads that have been accepted. I would be happy to create the redirects (as is current practice for list articles on roads that on their own have limited notability) if you would not like to. Regards,  " Pepper "  @ 03:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Pepper! If you'd like to make the redirects, you're more than welcome to and I have no issue with it.  I initially accepted them and then had a discussion on IRC where it was determined they were probably not needed, which is why I reversed course and declined them.  Thank you! --  Dane  talk  04:00, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, I shall make them! Seeing as I'm pretty much going directly contrary to your decision, was there any particular reason why you switched course and decided to reject the requests other than them not being needed? As the IP pointed out, there are already many redirects in place.  " Pepper "  @ 04:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Nope, the only reason was them not being needed and consensus per the IRC conversation. And i'm all for you going directly contrary to my decision if you feel the action is the correct one. --  Dane talk  04:34, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Page mover granted
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Martha Hart
At Martha Hart, under "Lawsuits-Owen Hart's death" section, it says she gave $2 million to Owen's parents, but the source there says she gave $2 million to Owen's charity. There are original research and misrepresentation of sources--Trepcost (talk) 19:11, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ This has been corrected to indicate what actually transpired per the source. --  Dane talk  23:14, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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The same user again
I'm not gonna get into this edit war with this user, I have warned them and I don't wanna be blocked for getting into a war I think this user should be blocked for 24 hours so that they can learn a lesson or warned by a administrator this user constantly adds and deletes things without a source I don't wanna get into it anymore so I'm coming to you for guidance and help. MatthewTardiff 17:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 17:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)
 * This has been reported at the edit warring noticeboard for outside resolution. Thanks. --  Dane  talk  01:33, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

I understand MatthewTardiff 02:17, 10 January 2017 (UTC) MatthewTardiff 02:17, 10 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewTardiff (talk • contribs)

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Thanking you, what I have going on, and article spaces
Hi Dane, thanks for fixing those external links! I am going to be taking a computer course that should be able to help me with my computer need such as making YouTube videos. Could you please make some more boxes for me that are the same the one that you made for me, as I plan to write more articles. I plan to make an article on YCDTOTV spin-off Whatever turns you on, Canadian wrestler Chelsea Green, Adler's Appetite second album, and some transformers articles. As I only use my sandbox to write in my articles often get mixed up.


 * Hi David! No problem, glad to help.  I'm excited for your computer course, it sounds like it will be very beneficial for you.  I have created more subpages for you per your request:
 * Workspace 1
 * Workspace 2
 * Workspace 3
 * Workspace 4
 * Workspace 5
 * Workspace 6
 * Hopefully these help with your content creation and allow us to collaborate better on your various articles as you're working on them. --  Dane talk  04:38, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, Thank you for the boxes! Feel free to expand on my articles inside the boxes if you want.


 * Hi David, I will pop in from time to time and take a look at them and possibly expand them.  Please be sure to notify me though here if you have a specific question about them as I am in college full time and working full time so I can't necessarily guarantee i'll catch everything going on with them.  Thank you! --  Dane  talk  23:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Alpine Skiing Rename/Move
I think you made a big mistake by changing Alpine... 2017 to 2016-17. I am the chief cook and bottle washer over there and have re-wikied the sight over the past 2 seasons to make it a superior quality product. The FIS ski folks refer to their year as the "2017 Season". They are the source of 200+ reference links and those links all have pull down menus that state the Season... 2017, or 2016, or 2015, etc... The first 49 years of FIS (on WikiP) are all still YYYY, not YYYY-YY. Are going to change those too? The guy that cruised in to the Article and suggested the change is North Finnish (on our English sight) and simply wants to make it look like all of the X-C skiing and Speed skating sights he has been trying to make look the way he wants. Change it back. Again - chief cook & bottle washer here with what feels like a bazillion edits on the topic. I am ready to walk away and let this, and future season, Article pages turn into roadkill pancakes and similar disrepair. 02:42, 14 January 2017 (UTC) You decide. I am ready say adios. 2016–17 Alpine Skiing World Cup
 * While I appreciate your position in this matter and your contributions, I have reviewed my closure again and stand by the decision I made.  No policy argument was made for denying the move.  I haven't renamed further articles because no official request has been made, but I would evaluate those requests when and if they are made. You are welcome to officially contest this at the move review page, where other editors/administrators can give input into whether they believe my closure was correct.  Your significant contributions to the article does not mean you have some sort of "super vote" as to what happens -- you do not own the article. Finally, I welcome any editor to make a suggestion for any article as long as consensus is gained, no matter what their nationality is.  We are here to collaborate and work together.  Thank you for your comments and feedback. --  Dane  talk  03:18, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I get the super vote thing and collaboration thing - I preach it, as I Admin my own large mediawiki website. It is just that the request was to align with "Standard Naming Convention" when there is no such Standard that I can determine. The citation was to align with a few pages that utilize the YYYY-YY format. My argument was that the Standard for the Alpine Skiing World Cup is YYYY. Why change what wasn't broken? And then generate MORE work to align the other 49 years of YYYY format. Tell you what - why don't you submit a 'move page review' and see what your colleagues think? You know, so you don't arbitrate with your single 'super vote'. Respectfully Submitted. 16:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Message from ABabyInAWashingMachine
How do I message you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABabyInAWashingMachine (talk • contribs) 03:44, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You can simply reply to me on this page and I will get the message. --  Dane talk  03:46, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Byronamartin
Thanks for the revert. I was wondering if I was too quick to do that since he's new, but it's a pretty clear COI. I put a notice at WP:COIN South Nashua (talk) 03:57, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem! It was a pretty clear to me, I don't think it was bitey. --  Dane  talk  03:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've always wondered if COI really mattered if it was NPOV, but I guess if the policy isn't equally applied, the non-NPOV situations will complain about a double standard. South Nashua (talk) 04:05, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

EMD
I'm presuming you are referring to the following statement, "Baldwin's early ventures into road Diesel production, while innovative, borrowed ill-suited design and production concepts from steam and electric locomotives, and were not sufficiently reliable to gain acceptance" (emphasis added to highlight potentially controversial verbiage recently added).

The position of the borrowed design and production concepts being ill-suited in that application is not a controversial one. It is a consensus position from all the literature on the topic that I'm aware of and is reflected on linked page as well.

The reference to ALCO's Diesel technology for high speed mainline locomotives being "less developed" than EMC's in 1939 should not be controversial either. It was a longstanding situation leading to business reversals during the 1940s-50s that eventually led the company to go out of business.

IMO the most recent version of the article is appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.208.11.42 (talk) 04:08, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

External links need fixing
Hi Dane, please fix the first three external links on Adler's Appetite, Adler's Appetite (EP) reference 5, and Road Crew reference 3 as you will see at the bottom of the page that they are not properly formatted, thanks!


 * ✅ All fixed! --  Dane talk  03:13, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Page protected
I've semi-protected your talk page for one month per the persistent vandalism and your request on IRC -- Samtar talk · contribs 22:17, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --  Dane talk  22:26, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

WWE Hall of Fame
I realise that but it is telling me that I can't post in that section unless I post this on your talk page. If you could advise me on how to post there without posting this on your page, it'd be greatly appreciated. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. DaveA2424 (talk) 13:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You only need to give that notice if you are opening a "new case" at AN/I, not commenting on an existing case. --  Dane talk  22:27, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the help with moving Franciscans! --Zfish118⋉talk 00:07, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. --  Dane talk  03:44, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Taking a break
Keep an eye on my talk please? ANI was pointless, shoulda went with my gut and just handled it my way and been done with it, will most certainly be the last ANI I have anything to do with. So I'm taking a break from wiki for a bit. I'll be back at some point. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 03:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Watching your talk page. Hope to see you around soon - don't let the wikistress get you down. --  Dane talk  03:44, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Little irritating that it's being treated as a content dispute when it was about Incivility, there was no content dispute as it was unsourced material that wasn't true. But whatever that's what I get for doing things by the book. Later <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 03:46, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

A Little Hello
Hey there,

Thanks so much for the help with the dispute over the Mickie James article. I believe we haven't met. Nice to finally meet you! DantODB 07:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello! No problem at all, I like to help out where I can. Feel free to stop by anytime, always happy to help! --  Dane  talk  07:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Not sure about your reverts
I don't know what's going on with that IP, but I'm not sure that it's vandalism or any other violation and I wonder what's gained by reverting all its edits. ? SPECIFICO  talk  04:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Which user are you talking about? The most recent IP I reverted was removing another users request for page protection? --  Dane  talk  04:35, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi sorry - I should have realized there's plenty of vandalism to revert. I meant the ones on Volunteer Marek's talk page. I happened to see those on my watchlist.  SPECIFICO  talk  04:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , I'm 90% sure this message was intended for me (Dane recently left me a message on my talk page so maybe that confused you?). Those IP's I reverted are socks of blocked User:Oneshotofwhiskey, who has some sort of weird vendetta against TheTimesAreAChanging. Lately this person has been IP hopping to non-stop troll the talk pages of sometimes barely involved users. You of all people should understand, considering the same crap got posted to your own talk page a few days ago. Sro23 (talk) 05:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's gotta be it. I just looked at the last 500 edits on that page (which span from before I became heavily active on Wiki) and I noticed that I had never edited there.  No worries though, and thanks  for spotting this! --  Dane  talk  05:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * oop. Thanks. SPECIFICO  talk  14:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Gary Oldman
Thank you for this. Can you guess who I was reverting? Lately the IP's he's been using geolocate to Iceland. And the abusive unblock request all but confirm it's him. Sro23 (talk) 02:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow he really get's around the wiki! I didn't recognize it was him until I reviewed it again. --  Dane  talk  02:03, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, check the archive. It's not just wrestlers, it's also Britpop music and culture articles, and Gary Oldman, and a few other more obscure pages. Sro23 (talk) 02:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Bill Goldberg (January 2017)
Sockpuppet investigations/The abominable Wiki troll is back! He used, and when failed, himself edited Bill Goldberg article ]. , check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dane/Archive_1#Bill_Goldberg

--Trepcost (talk) 23:49, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm currently on a Wiki break but as I was pinged and it deals with TWAT....I mean TAWT I checked geolocate and Im 90% certain that yes that IP is them judging by their edits and summarys. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 00:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

One of his many banned socks put in edit-summary "hyperbolic quotes in the lead, wwe opinion on products they monetize" exactly what is new IP socks wrote on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling, this sock's old stomping ground --Trepcost (talk) 00:04, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Reverted and requested page protection. Obvious sock is obvious.  Thanks for pinging and reporting it.  I'll keep a closer eye on things. --  Dane  talk  00:28, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks!--Trepcost (talk) 00:35, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

The sock just left a message on my talkpage --Trepcost (talk) 04:01, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I saw that. Please don't respond the way you did in the edit summary....we must WP:DENY when possible and that encourages them. --  Dane  talk  04:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I won't in the future. Thanks for advice!--Trepcost (talk) 04:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. He seems really active tonight.  Watching carefully. --  Dane  talk  04:31, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

RFC closed
I have closed the RFC you initiated and requested formal closure for here. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or concerns. Tazerdadog (talk) 01:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

January 2017
Hello Dane. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that there is consensus that we shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and/or content (CSD A3) moments after they are created, as you did at The Vigilant Christian. It is also suggested that pages that might meet CSD A7 criteria not be tagged for deletion immediately after they are created. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course still be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Largoplazo (talk) 02:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This is a duplicate of Draft:The Vigilant Christian, which I moved to draft space for the user however they re-created the article in main space potentially before receiving my talk page message. --  Dane talk  02:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User is now working in the draft space on this. It was deleted under criteria CSD:G7. --  Dane  talk  03:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Please do not to revert it!
Hi Dane ! I hope you are doing well. I understand you meant well to revert my edits. But this person died on January 14th of this year which reference was posted about in Eldar Kuliev article. I understand it most be difficult for you to translate that reference as it is written in Russian language. But please don't revert again my edits!Thank you so much!Chegemly (talk) 04:19, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I actually didn't see the source in at all when I initially reverted, but I will not be reverting it again. Thank you for letting me know! --  Dane  talk  04:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks re page archive move
Thanks re. Talk:David_L._Jones_(electronics_engineer)/Archive_1 and etc. Jeh (talk) 04:32, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem! Glad to help! --  Dane  talk  04:39, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

St Kentigern's Church, Crosthwaite
Thanks for mopping that up! Pam D  09:24, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course! Always happy to help! --  Dane  talk  19:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

External link fixing, Chelsea Green Wikia, and page that I am creating
Hi Dane, How are you doing? The Chelsea Green Wikia article needs fixing under in wrestling section, where her finishing and signatures moves are scrambled up. I don't think you need a Wikia account to edit Wikia. I am using info from the Chelsea Green Wikia to make the Chelsea Green Wikipedia article, I am copying it and re-writing in a different format, if you want you can also the same so we can get this article done quicker. The Three's Company external link 17 needs fixing as well as The Nasty Boys external links 3 and 4. Thanks so much for your help!
 * I am well David, how are you? I have fixed the links in the Wikipedia article. The wikia site I found asked me to register when I hit the Edit button so i'm not sure if it was the same one you were intending me to edit and I did not make a change based on the required registration. --  Dane  talk  06:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

External links and articles in progress
Hi Dane, I am mostly good, how is you college going? the article turban external links 6, 7, 8, and 9 need fixing as they as say http://. Sometimes I can fix eternal links, but sometimes I can't. I have met Chelsea Green at a local wrestling show and will see her again in February. I am sure she will be very pleased when I tell her I have wrote a Wikipedia article on her! She is a very nice young woman. I plan to buy the Adler Appetite alive EP as I need to get information so I can add it to the article that I am creating. Do you plan to add any info the my articles in progress? If you do they can get done and published quicker.


 * College is going alright....it's very busy doing that and work though. The links at Turban are ✅ and have been corrected. I am sure Chelsea will appreciate that, have you met many wrestling figures? I'm not into wrestling so I don't know much about the stars and popular figures. I have looked briefly at the articles you're working on currently, I haven't been able to find time to expand them much beyond the normal wiki-maintainence type stuff.  You have made great progress on them though! --  Dane  talk  19:00, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, Yes I have met some wrestling figures some famous and some less famous. External links on article Droz (wrestler) 9, 13 and 14 and Throttlebots link 3 needs fixing. Take care and thanks.


 * ✅ --  Dane talk  21:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Old Master
"Dane moved page Old Master to Old master without leaving a redirect: Requested by Espoo at WP:RM/TR: mos, we really don't have time to always discuss this kind of nonsense, see also onelook.com" - are you kidding???? What a waste of time. Now I have to go to an admin to get it moved back to the proper title. Are you auditioning to become the Donald Trump of Wikipedia? It is pretty clear from your edit summary that you were aware it was in fact very likely to be controversial. Johnbod (talk) 04:44, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The edit summary uses the reason provided at Technical Moves -- that edit summary was not my opinion on the matter. I looked at the history of said page and did not see any concerns with changing the "case" of the word master.  As you have contested this and shown there is a concern, i've reversed my action and moved this to a Requested Move discussion. Thanks! --  Dane  talk  05:14, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks - obviously I thought the wording was yours. Johnbod (talk) 15:16, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me and renaming page
Hi Dane, thanks for telling me, I will erase my Chelsea Green article now, Why don't we rename the current page Chelsea Green? That is her real name and what she mostly wrestles under.
 * No problem. I'm going to have the page deleted and then I'll re-create it so it has a fresh history for when we move your new article from there. In terms of the rename, we can look at putting in a requested move for it tomorrow. Wikipedia goes by common name so if she's most commonly referred to under that name there's a good chance we can rename it. --  Dane talk  07:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, How do you plan to do this? I have added Laurel Van Ness to userpage as I just added new information to it and there we can make some changes to it if necessary, and then re-name it.
 * Hi David, You'll want to put in the move request at the talk page for Laurel Van Ness using the instructions at WP:RM.  As you know much more about the subject and why it should be retitled, i'll have you put in the request/reason.  It will then run through a 7 day discussion period and at the close it will either be moved or stay the same depending on consensus. --  Dane  talk  23:08, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

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Articles in progress
Hi, Dane how have you been? I have ordered the Adler Alive EP of the internet so I can get some information to add it to the article that I am making. My computer at home is not working so I am using the computer at the library, hopefully my computer at home should soon be working. Are you currently writing any articles? List of people who disappeared mysteriously does not currently have a 1984 section, when I am doing some of my article how about we write about some people that went missing in 1984? I hope all is well, take care.
 * Hi David! I have been pretty busy with school, how are you?  I am not currently writing any articles - i'm mainly doing page moves and account creations along with vandal fighting currently as these things are easy to step away from quickly when I need to for school.  I expect to begin writing another article in late April.  Glad to hear you ordered the album - hopefully it helps!  Is your home computer fixed now? --  Dane  talk  04:27, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2
Hello , We now have New Page Reviewers! Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October. The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work! It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to. Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten. This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody,  and
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 * 2) this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in  a community ban.
 * 3) This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election
Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Sock.......
Looks like this user is a sock of this user. Same editing style and same removal of dates on Wrestling Articles. I don't know how to add them to the SPI that was already done to have it checked. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 10:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Examples how I figured it out diff 1, diff 2, and diff 3. You can see the similarities and notice in diff 3 how new user talks about what was talked about by other sock in diff 2. 1st sock blocked January 24, new user/sock created January 29. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me  10:33, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I have added this to the SPI.  Keep missing you on IRC - hope you're well! --  Dane  talk  04:50, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Doing better gonna try going back to work tomorrow. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 04:51, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear it!! Keep the stress minimal though! --  Dane  talk  04:53, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

RM closure rationale at Talk:Lipiodol
You said "multiple resists". Can you elaborate and modify the rationale? Thank you. --George Ho (talk) 06:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. Autocorrect error on the Mac, didn't realize it converted "relists" to "resists". --  Dane talk  07:08, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) George Ho (talk) 03:17, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Current status
Hi Dane how are you? Could you please fix the external links on article Dick Murdoch numbers 9, 10, 12, and 20. I am having to work from the library since my home computer is not yet working, and I will take my computer to my friends this weekend as he will try to fix it, as there is a loose connection with the keyboard. A Wikipedia administrator sent me a not very nice email when I asked him for directions about what I should do on a disambiguation page. I will show that to you the next time I email you. Take care.
 * Hi David....I'm doing well. Glad to hear your making progress on your computer getting repaired. I removed #9, it was a 404 page error.  The rest appear to be fixed now.  I apologize for the email you received - if you'd like to forward it to me, please use the "Email user" link in the dropdown and you can copy and paste it to me and i'll attempt to help. --  Dane  talk  03:17, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Davidgoodheart, the only Wikipedia administrator on whose talk page you've commented in the last month is myself, and not only have I never sent you an email in my life, I couldn't even if I wanted to given that you don't have email enabled. &#8209; Iridescent 13:36, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Fixed external links and articles
Hi Dane, thanks for fixing those external links! Also Please check out my work on Adler's appetite alive, and can you add the image of the alive album picture to the Adlers Appetite alive box? That is the picture on this page here is the link: The picture to use is the one that is the biggest image and says Adler's Appetite in red writing and the picture is made of black and white. Thanks


 * I will look into this shortly. We must ensure we use the correct fair use rationale for album artwork. --  Dane  talk  03:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * - Due to File Upload Policies, I cannot upload/add this image until the article has been finished to the point that it is ready to move into main space. When you are finished working with the article, you may move it into main space from my user space (or let me know it's done/ready for publication - I can move it in a way that preserves your edit history and that doesn't leave a redirect in my user space per WP:PM/C which is more ideal).  Once it's moved, I will upload the image, add the licensing and put it in the article. --  Dane  talk  06:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Dane talk  02:29, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Adler's Appetite Alive EP article near completion, but lacks certain info
Hi Dane, How are you? Today I have spent a long tome on the Alive article and I am almost done, yet there is some info I am missing. I cannot find anything about who the production personal are, and I don't know if all my info is 100% correct. I did receive the CD in the mail, but it did not have the info I need as it came with no booklet, all the info I have added is from websites and looking at the back of a different alive album cover that I saw on ebay. Please take a look at my article and tell my what you think, and if you can find any more info please add it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidgoodheart (talk • contribs) 04:36, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I will review this tomorrow morning and see if I can't locate more information on the album. Thanks! --  Dane  talk  04:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not able to find any reliable sources with further production information, which surprises me. I will check the article again shortly and see what sourcing is in it, with the scarce information I saw and depending on the sources it may go up for deletion. --  Dane  talk  01:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have worked on the article today and I added a lot of new info. if you look at this article G N' R Lies under personal all it says is additional musicians and not production personal, so might articles not need that extra info. there may be no additional musicians as well, I do have internet sources as info, and it is pretty accurate I think, so I don't think it will go up for deletion. Please check it out and make any changes if you think it needs any.
 * The sourcing may not comply with Wikipedia's reliable sourcing policy...it's borderline. Other than that, I think it looks good. If it goes up for deletion we just handle it as it happens. I have moved it to article space and preserved the edit history. (links above) --  Dane  talk  02:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, thanks for your help. Could you please add the image to the info box (the one that I sent you) and then I will add it.
 * Hi David - I'm mobile for the night but I will add this tomorrow when i'm back on a computer (can't do something that complex on my phone). Thanks! --  Dane  talk  03:26, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, Thanks for your help! I would like to post it, and it needs to be named Adler's Appetite Alive EP, since an EP named Alive by another band already exists on Wikipedia.
 * No problem. I already moved/published it to Alive (Adler's Appetite) per the normal naming convention for this kind of thing.  I moved it with all of the editing history that shows you created it. --  Dane  talk  03:37, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, thanks again. Tomorrow when posting the image, please use the same image from the link above from the where it says The picture, the image that's says Adler's appetite on the top in red printing, the background is black and white, and it says alive and the bottom in yellow letters. It is the biggest image on the page. This is the image we should use. Take care! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidgoodheart (talk • contribs) 01:53, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, I hope things are going good for you with college, are you going to add the image to the info box now?
 * Hi David - I will be working on this after I finish my assignment for class. Should be up in the next few hours.  Hopefully sooner than later! --  Dane  talk  01:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David - the cover art is now in the article. Please note that I moved the article back to the original title of Alive (Adler's Appetite) as this is the standard naming convention per the manual of style for music.  We do not list the full artist in a title nor do we move pages to titles for search engine optimization.  Most search engines generally can find the related wiki page with in a few days. --  Dane  talk  02:29, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!!!
 * No problem! Glad to help. --  Dane  talk  03:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Fixing external links and headings
Hi Dane, I tried to add a heading to the Dixie Dynamite movie page, but I didn't get it right, as there is still a lot I need to learn about editing Wikipedia. What is should say on the top of it is: This article is about a movie, for a masked wrestler with the name Dixie Dynamite see Scott Armstrong. I am taking computer classes every Wednesday and I should learn how to do this soon hopefully. could you please good to view history and see what I did wrong and then add it correctly. Also the external links numbers 15, 19, and 20 on the article Jim Crockett Promotions need fixing, as well as American Gladiators external link number 7. Good luck on your exams!
 * ✅. I have updated Dixie Dynamite (although I rephrased it slightly to match necessary formatting/language for a hatnote).  I also expanded all the references that you requested. Thank you for the luck! --  Dane  talk  06:42, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

07:24, 17 February 2017 (UTC)(talk) 07:24, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

RFC closure
I have co-closed an RFC you initiated on the proper description of Kurt Evans in the Talk:United States Senate election in South Dakota, 2016 article. You can find the closure here. Tazerdadog (talk) 07:47, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your initiative in starting the discussion. Perhaps unsurprisingly, I've requested a range block for NLT violations.  Pretty blatant in this case.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 03:53, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Glad to get the ball rolling on this. It's a shame it had to end with more legal threats from the IP.  Hopefully the range block does the trick. --  Dane  talk  04:08, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * It is a shame, . Especially since many editors, starting with yourself, tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and extend every courtesy and explanation.  He seems very, very unhappy about it.  After everything, I still can't tell what would be acceptable in his POV.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 04:12, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

adding a name to surname mcpeak
I am new to Wikipedia and would like to understand how to use this better.

Ghost arch (talk) 05:53, 21 February 2017 (UTC)ghost arch
 * The subject does not appear notable and does not have any reliable sourced references to back it up. Additionally, you appear to be a sockpuppet of . --  Dane  talk  05:58, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

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An edit dispute I am having and next article
Hi Dane, I had just made some edits to the Fury (disambiguation) page and some Wikipedia editor removed it and said is wasn't notable and not fill up articles with minor cruft and not to be childish. He also removed other edits to that page. I do think what I added is notable and that he is mistaken, I don't think editors like him are good for Wikipedia and I have contacted an Wikipedia administrator for help with resolution, please check out his comments he left me on the fury disambiguation page and tell me what you think. I have finished writing the article and have added as much info as I can, can you please add a picture, links and the bottom and some external links to it? It isn't very big because there isn't much info to add and that's why a picture of the person and external links will make it bigger. Lets not post it until we both agree that is it ready and through the article wizard so it doesn't have all that view history attached to it. Since the case and person are not notable and only her disappearance is, this one will have to be called the disappearance of Linne Marie Dominelli. It may go up for deletion but short articles often do stay on Wikipedia. After you have added all that you can I won't add anything more at the bottom as I did with Melanie Melanson. Take care
 * Hi David, I reviewed the Fury page and I agree that the commentary was not appropriate in how the editor addressed you, however, I would state that notability has not been met for those additions to the page unless i've missed something that establishes them in reliable sourcing. In terms of the article process, the reason why I moved the last article developed with history is due to this information on history merges.  Copy-and-paste moves through the article wizard are discouraged due to copyright and licensing issues.  I can take a look at the article later this week but i'm pretty tied up currently with school and other wiki issues (see below on the disputes at South Dakota Senate Election).
 * until later this week. --  Dane talk  04:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, How are you? Can you please the article Jake Roberts external links numbers 1, 25, 31, and 32, Al Green (wrestler) external link 5, and Guns N Roses external link 22 needs fixing. Also please check out my latest article and tell me what you think and what we should add to it before posting it. I also want to tell you about a disambiguation page that I might create, and I want you to tell me if you think if it will be feasible. Good luck with school and your wiki issues! And I now how frustrating it can be as I am currently experiencing a lot of frustration as people keep undoing my edits, which sucks.
 * - I am working on this request in the next few hours. Sorry for the delays, i've been super busy prior to my trip with school and work, but I will ping you/update again when completed. --  Dane  talk  19:07, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have expanded the links in the articles above. I reviewed your article in (Davidgoodheart Sandbox 2|no longer works) and as it stands currently, it doesn't have enough sourcing to stand up to AfD/CSD.  Is there coverage of the disappearance in online news sources that may help establish notability?  What is the disambiguation page you were thinking of making? --  Dane  talk  20:28, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * It may be better to use the draft namespace for your future articles going forward to comply with the history requirement. --  Dane talk  21:18, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The response of stop acting childish was wrong completely but removal of non notable entries isn't. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 07:11, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, Thanks for overseeing my article, I have now added some new sources to the article for better citations, please check it out. It hasn't yet gone up for deletion, so hopefully it won't. I think now that the template can now be removed. You missed article Jake Roberts external links 1 and 25, hopefully I will learn how to fix links my self soon. The disambiguation page that I want to make making is the Sloppy disambiguation page.
 * Hi David. The article still needs some sort of third party news sources.  Can you find and add some news references for the disappearance?  Then we can remove the top tag that I have on the page still. I removed external link 1 from Jake Roberts as it was read and fixed link 24 (was 25). --  Dane  talk  23:45, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, I will see what I can do add more info to the article that I have made. I had to delete Sandbox 2 and 5 because I had a copy of the article wizard in both of them, how did that happen?! I could not remove it from them, so I had to delete them. When you can please make me two more of them. Take care.
 * Hi David. Sandbox 2 and 5 redirect to the article wizard now so that you can create in the draft namespace which will allow you to move articles with history into the main article space once you finish developing them.  Due to the copyrights, we should be maintaining history and not doing cut and paste moves which is why I have set up the sandboxes to go to the Draft creation page. --  Dane  talk  01:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi Dane, have you ever thought about going for an RfA? Your AfD stats are pretty good and we could always do with some extra hands with closing the more tricky debates. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the compliment and suggestion! I have given it thought once before...I still don't think i'm ready yet for adminship. In a few months I may look at it but for now I'd like to continue contributing in my existing areas and hopefully expand some of my more recent articles. --  Dane  talk  00:35, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Miles Beard
Hi Dane, thank you for reviewing this page. Given the clout of the individual (he has been listed by Billboard, Warner, Atlantic Records, and has had worked on numerous top 40 hits), I am hoping this nomination for deletion can be removed. I would be more than happy to discuss the credibility of the individual as well as make sure the page falls under wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you so much for your time!Fairfax17 (talk) 20:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello! Miles Beard does not appear to meet the notability for musicians or music related articles.  If you'd like to state your opinion on why it should not be deleted, please check out the Articles for Deletion page for Miles Beard. An uninvolved closer will determine consensus when the AfD process completes. --  Dane  talk  21:04, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hull City Badge Correction
Hello, I was just trying to make the new Hull City badge correct. Currently if you search up Hull City on google, and you see Their name,then their old logo appears, with Wikipedia as the surce for that. Just a few days ago, it was the new correct logo, but now it has changed. Can you please fix it, that is what I was trying to do here. Thank you Brandon39524 (talk) 22:10, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Pugs
Thanks for closing the RM at Pugs (programming). Just as a friendly reminder, don't forget to update the redirect Pugs and fix the incoming links.--Cúchullain t/ c 04:27, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Mail call
<b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 02:41, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Dane talk  05:28, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Are you back now?
Hi Dane, are you back from vacation now? How was your time away?
 * Hi David! I have returned from vacation, it was nice to get away and unwind for a bit. I see you've published a few more articles, I'm guessing you saw that I made a few changes to them. I mostly changed title and capitalization as well as the leads. --  Dane talk  17:55, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Saving article from deletion
Hi Dane, I am glad your back! My latest article Kathleen McCormack Durst has been nominated for deletion. Two editors don't think that it is notable or that it should be a stand alone article, but I think it should be as the article is full of sources and is not a stub. Plus the more articles Wikipedia has the better. Can you please help me combat the speedy deletion?
 * After reviewing the article and the section on her from Robert Durst, I think redirecting the article and merging any new information there is the best action for this. --  Dane talk  01:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Closing of move at God of War (franchise)
Hi, I think you incorrectly called the consensus at Talk:God of War (franchise). Yes, there was consensus to move to something, but the consensus was tipped slightly in favour of God of War (video game series) and not God of War (franchise). Myself and three other editors favoured the original suggestion of God of War (video game series), with only two in favour God of War (franchise). --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:16, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Answered below. --  Dane talk  17:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Move review for God of War (franchise)
An editor has asked for a Move review of God of War (franchise). Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. Rob Sinden (talk) 09:00, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comment! It's been a busy week, sorry I didn't reach out sooner.  I have responded at the move review. --  Dane  talk  17:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

External links need fixing
Hi Dane, I tried to fix these links, but I wasn't successful, could you please fix Armed forces external links 1 and 2, WCW Wrestling, external link 2, Charles Nungesser external links 9 and 18, and Gordon Campbell external links 4, 5, and 27. Thanks
 * Removed dead source in WCW (ext link 2) and not familiar enough/unable to locate titles for sources in Gordon Campbell. The rest are done :). --  Dane  talk  17:33, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Anima and animus
The section as a whole refers to the affect of the masculine animus (him) on the feminine consciousness (herself). It only seems like a grammatical error if you do not take the entire section into account. Regards, LiminalSoul (talk) 03:18, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps switching it to "Man as a helpful guide to understanding" would be better. Or "the self", or "spiritual understanding". It is the only stage in the animus development which the article refers back to the feminine consciousness, so perhaps making it more ambiguous with regards to the gender would keep it more consistent (the section that is). What do you think? LiminalSoul (talk) 03:27, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Reverts
Your recent reverts of my edits are incorrect. Thanks.198.58.162.200 (talk) 17:17, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * My apologies for the error. I must've pressed the wrong button when reviewing your contribution. --  Dane  talk  17:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries, thanks!198.58.162.200 (talk) 17:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

revision
dear dane this news was discussed by a student body recently so lets just leave it on there ok. warmest regards me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cross1234569 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * This material is unreferenced and contains no reliable sources. We require verifiable sources for content. Thanks. --  Dane  talk  17:26, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Closure of Articles for deletion/David Tegfan Davies
Hi, I see you closed this discussion as "nominator withdrawn." I was the nominator, and I indeed expressed an interest in withdrawing the nomination, but before I did so another editor entered a "delete" vote— my recollection is that once at least one other editor does that, the nominator cannot withdraw the nomination and the thing must run its full course. Or maybe I am missing something. A little help?? Thanks! KDS4444 (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I missed that little detail with AfD, i've only dealt with withdrawals a few times and usually they've never had the dissenting vote.  I'm certain it will close as keep if it stays how it is right now but I have procedurally unclosed the AfD.  Sorry for the confusion. --  Dane  talk  21:09, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I am quite sure you are right. Was just confused myself by what I saw vs. what I remembered.  No harm done, but much thanks for reopening!  KDS4444 (talk) 21:10, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Garden City High School Alumni
Hi. I saw your note. In terms of reliable reference, what are you looking for? I have references from print articles to prove association, but those are not online. Please advise. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.0.141.30 (talk) 00:17, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
 * A citation to the printed reference including date, volume, edition and/or author should be sufficient as long as it will allow the reference to be verified. Thanks! --  Dane talk  00:19, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

I provided three citations previously. My understanding is that one should have been sufficient. Would you like a copy? I have hard copies. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.0.141.30 (talk) 00:22, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There were no citations in the edit I reverted. Specifically, which reference gives the name that was added and associates them with the school? --  Dane  talk  00:25, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Moving "generalized pustular psoriasis" to "pustular psoriasis"
Looking at it now, It's going to be easier to just create a new page for pustular psoriasis–instead of moving the "generalized pustular psoriasis" to "pustular psoriasis" page and editing accordingly. Can I withdraw my request to move the page? IIIBALESIII 19:37, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. Request retracted and removed.  Thanks! --  Dane  talk  20:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

unwarranted variation
Dear Dane need help here as I am new to wiki. I have been asked to suspend my additions to this entry temporarily by Gov agency until they clear content. how do I do this? should be for about 2 weeks Lauraserrant (talk) 17:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)lauraLauraserrant (talk) 17:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read our conflict of interest policy for more guidance on this. We maintain well sourced items. Thanks. --  Dane  talk  17:16, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Lauraserrant (talk) 23:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)I'm still confused by the language of the policy page. not really sure it answers my question?Lauraserrant (talk) 23:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

The Party Boys edits
Hello Dane,

I am wondering why you reverted the edits of fact that I have added to The Party Boys? Darrel Baird 01:40, 31 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrel3241 (talk • contribs)
 * Your edits used a reference only including your username and not following the reliable sourcing policy. If you use reliable sources, you can reinstate your edits. --  Dane talk  01:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Renaming pages and dead links
Hi Dane, when clicking on the disambiguation pages Deep Trouble (disambiguation) and Double Trouble (disambiguation) is says Redirected from, if the page was named disambiguation, it wouldn't do that, I tried to rename these pages disambiguation, but was unable to, do you know how to do that so it will say disambiguation page? Also on the page of List of people who disappeared mysteriously there are 23 dead links, is there a was to format the links into references so that they can't be clicked on anymore, but they look well formatted? I tried to do the first one myself but did not do a very good job of it.
 * Hi David. Sorry I missed this post. Not exactly sure what you're asking in regards to this.  The redirected from message appears when a page has been moved with a redirect left behind. --  Dane  talk  01:45, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Pretty Positive........
Pretty positive This is our old friend Clash. Not sure how to add to archived investigation. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 01:45, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you're correct. Opening the SPI now. --  Dane  talk  01:47, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Added a new report to the SPI. --  Dane talk  01:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * After doing some looking at Contributions, that may actually be the master, same edit habits, same name style, but here longer than Clash. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 01:53, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Definitely Not........
Gee whizz guys, I do not have other accounts with Wikipedia nor have I ever. And I am only attempting to add relevant and honest information. and I am certainly not KO_A

I did make one error when attempting to update information on Stuart O'Grady's living person details and will enter into talk about this soon. Everything in The Party Boys and Kevin Borich is relevant and factual and I will now attempt to find reliable source to prove all that is written. The correct account of Paul Christies version of The Party Boys is missing some factual points and needs to be corrected slightly to better show the true line of the bands history.

The Kevin Borich updates where minor and included adding link tags to relevant articles in relation to his history. How can you deny that ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrel3241 (talk • contribs) 02:09, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The post above was not about you or claiming you were "KO_A". That was unrelated.  In terms of your edits, you need to cite reliable sources which it sounds like you understand now.  Just ensure you're not using references with your username listed as the reference. Thanks. --  Dane  talk  02:12, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Message about an edit
Hi Dane!

I just wanted to clarify -- to the page: Polarization (Electrochemistry), I solely made grammatical edits such as adding spaces between punctuation marks and the next word or capitalizing new sentences. Unfortunately, something got slightly messed up with my edits, and a strange type of format was introduced, changing the layout (ie. had courier new font and a different indent pattern). To remedy this, I copied the text into my clipboard, deleted the text from the wiki page and saved the page. I then went it and re-edited the page to add the text back and saved the page. There should have been no difference, except that the format was back to what was expected. I have also taken a screenshot showing that, had you clicked "next edit", it shows that I replaced the text that I removed mere minutes after. If you could restore my grammatical fix-ups, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks for your heads-up, and I will remember to add a summary next time!

Thanks,

User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.164.63 (talk) 02:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

State Bank
hi. this is not a disruptive change. i am an employee of STATE BANK. and i am doing changes as per office orders we have received from our authorities. hope you get it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMARPREET SINGH GORAYA (talk • contribs) 19:19, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Please see the conflict of interest information on your talk page. Thanks. --  Dane  talk  19:24, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Pustular Psoriasis
Re: Nomination for speedy delation. Tertiary source linking has been repaired. All the information refers to correct secondary sources. Please withdraw the nomination for speedy deletion. Thanks for all you do! IIIBALESIII 16:51, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Microscope article RFC on ultramicroscope
As you want the ultramicroscope to remain in the article lead on microscopes, please discuss at the RFC. RFC on ultramicroscope in lead of microscope article. --2601:648:8503:4467:F4B3:6D6C:9DCC:DC06 (talk) 20:45, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

I have many tasks ahead
Hi Dane, I am experiencing problems right now as I tried to fix the links on article Terry Taylor but was unable to, so could you please try to fix the links 15, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24. Also I need to open some more sandboxes because 5 out of the 6 boxes you made for me got filled up with the article wizard, and I need to keep my stuff separate. Also I am going to make a disambiguation page and I need to how to file and edit dispute, would you know how to do that?
 * Hi David. I have fixed the links.  In regards to the sandboxes/article wizard, I have purposefully set them up in that way to redirect you per my comments on February 25th, 2017.  We need to use the draft namespace for further article development so that it keeps your editing history in tact.  Cut and paste page moves do not maintain the history of article development. --  Dane  talk  23:23, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Vök (band)
Saw this page was up for deletion but this band fulfills the criteria, they won a major music competition etc. http://grapevine.is/news/2013/03/25/vok-win-musiktilraunir-battle-of-the-bands/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSfR0rSIhI4

Criteria for musicians and ensembles

Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahugavert (talk • contribs) 03:35, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That does not appear to be a major competition. At any rate, I would add this to the AfD page where an uninvolved administrator or experienced editor will close this after it runs it's cycle of 7 days.--  Dane  talk  03:39, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

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Vacation
Hey could ya keep a watch on my talk for me, I'll be gone till 5/1 on vacation. Thanks <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 21:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * For sure! Have a good holiday! --  Dane  talk  00:50, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Wanted to say thanks, been off and on today cause of rain but we did get to go out and just got back from a walk with my wife. See ya in a few weeks. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 04:14, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Poraiyahat in Godda
What type of supportive​ evidence you need Aayush42 (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * A reliable source stating the fact you are claiming. --  Dane talk  04:00, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Recently newly govt motor driving School for developing driving skill to youth &Govt ITI industrial Training Institute for developing industrial job orineted. Aayush42 (talk) 07:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

It is having good market zone for business activity, now it is shaping up small town in this region Aayush42 (talk) 07:52, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Xfinity Requested Move
Hello, I noticed you were on both sides about moving the page Comcast Cable to Xfinity. I would like to let you know that I have started a formal move request, and if you would like to support it, feel free to comment at Talk:Comcast Cable. 76.116.198.27 (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

My article got rejected
Hello Dane,

I got a message from you about my rejected article [|Michael Simeon Enahoro] What am i getting wrong, why is my article rejected. Kindly help anyway you can, pointing me in the right direction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24hubs (talk • contribs) 06:41, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello! You'll want to review our notability policy, our reliable sourcing policy and how to cite sources.  These were the main issues with the article that require correction. --  Dane  talk  16:07, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Tiffany Sessions age progression
Hi, I noticed you added the age progression of Tiffany Sessions (quite a while ago) by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. In the past, I have uploaded their images but they were deleted because NCMEC does copyright their images (Tiffany's dad is not the copyright holder of their image, although that's honestly how it should work). With the cases of Morgan Nick and Kiplyn Davis, an external link is provided for the age progression. I'm surprised it hasn't already been removed from the commons for having a watermark present. What do you think? --<font face=FangSong> Gourami Watcher <font color=#0038A8>Talk 04:03, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll have to dig through my archives to see who I consulted on this. I remember an IRC conversation I had with someone from commons familiar with image copyright cause I wanted a second opinion and they had agreed that these fell under the Permissible Use clause of the terms on their website. I will research a little more and if necessary email NCMEC for authorization and place it on file if we require that or remove the images and request deletion. --  Dane talk  04:13, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I reached out for more feedback on this and I got a mix of answers. Rather than chance the issue, i've removed the images and linked to them as you did in your articles.  I feel it's more than adequate and does not take away from the articles.  Thank you again for bringing these concerns. --  Dane  talk  16:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Malcom Dixon (actor)
Do you have a reason that you reverted the page for Malcolm Dixon? I was building his filmography and suddenly the page was reverted claiming that he's only ever been in one movie. I didn't even have the chance to start on much of his television work. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I reverted it because in spot checking the filmography list I did not see him in those films. If you have sourcing to support that and want to continue to build the article, I would highly suggest using this draft space instead and I'll even move it into place if it's sourced properly. --  Dane  talk  18:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)


 * When did it become necessary to specifically reference every movie that every actor is in? I don't see references on other actor pages? It is obvious that this is not a place worth putting in the effort. All it takes is one person to say "I didn't see that" and it gets reverted. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 18:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It is necessary that the movies in the Filmography table you provide for said actor to actually have said actor in it. The wikipedia movie pages I checked did not reference him, which is why reliable sourcing is needed to establish notability. --  Dane  talk  18:56, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Expanding article
Hi, the sentence in the article Dixie Dynamite article where I added info about it's DVD release is very short, could you please expand the info maybe by saying what format the DVD is in or anything else that could be added. I am not sure what to say about it's release, also you can find this info by clicking on the reference, thanks. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:27, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David! I will check on this tomorrow.  Please try to add your new sections on my talk page at the bottom so I don't miss them.  I apologize for missing this one. --  Dane  talk  05:21, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This is done. Sorry for the delay.  There isn't too much that usually goes into those sections but I did add a bit more to it. --  Dane  talk  20:36, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Please check out my article
Hi Dane, the article that I made is in your user page. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David. I see why the article was deleted, it didn't make a credible claim of significance. It needs some expansion with the details surrounding the disappearance and some additional sourcing if possible. --  Dane  talk  05:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Maybe I can get this info by searching through newspaper archives, or TV shows about missing people, or books on missing people, I will do my best to find some info, thanks for your input. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! No problem, i'll be happy to look again when it's ready. --  Dane talk  05:25, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Thank you for the coffee and compliment. I appreciate your kind words both here and RfA and I look forward to working with you more on the encyclopedia. --  Dane  talk  00:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I didn't think a RfA for you would pass when I saw you at ORCP, and if I had more time I probably would have given you 4/10. I didn't support, but I would have if it was getting close.  J 947 (c)  20:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the comment and the rating. I will definitely be working to correct these issues.  In the future, if I decide to run again I will perform another ORCP and leave it longer than I did this last time. --  Dane  talk  00:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * As an opposer, I want to say you handled yourself well and did a good job dealing with a stressful situation. I've no doubt the issues that were raised can be addressed and hope to see you back at RfA again.  I particularly like your withdraw statement--shows you are worrying about the right things.  Hobit (talk) 21:38, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the compliment! I value the feedback you left in your oppose as well - it helps me to be a better editor and I am going to work on the issues that were brought up. --  Dane  talk  00:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

—<span style="color:#092;background:#444;font-family:mono,sans;font-weight:bold;font-size:small;">░] PaleoNeonate █ ⏎ ? ERROR ░ 21:57, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not feel confident enough to vote yet (I'm new to this), but I saw the RfA unfold. A custom award:
 * Thank you haha! I love this! --  Dane  talk  00:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

My new disambiguation page
Hi Dane, I have recently created the Sloppy (disambiguation) page, yet it is not showing up on yahoo or google, do you know why this is? I will add some more entries to the page, but I need to write them first. Davidgoodheart (talk) 20:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Usually it takes GoogleBot (and whatever Yahoo's crawler is called) a few days to properly populate new entries. I've seen it be pretty quick for Wiki but not always.  I'd check in a day or two. --  Dane  talk  01:37, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Hey Dane! I saw that you withdrew from your RFA, and I know that can be disappointing. A failed RFA does not mean you are a bad editor (No matter how many people dare to make you feel that way) and you are welcome to try again at any time! In the meantime though, I thought I'd give you some coffee .... er, sorry, you're just going to add a ton of whipped cream and sugar onto it. Nuh uh. What a disgrace. Instead, I'll give you this cute, warm kitten instead. Aww, isn't she cute? What're you gonna name her?

— k6ka  <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 23:43, 13 April 2017 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>
 * Kitten!! I shall name her Iris, just like her filename.  Thank you for the kind words.  As I sit in my statement, I will learn and become a better editor based on what I learned. --  Dane  talk  23:47, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Kitten. We talked about the RfA, sort of. We've come far (your question above), see RfC mentioned, or this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

A cold one on me

 * After an RfA like that, I'd go for something stronger still! ;) Hey Dane, sorry to see it go the way it did. Bear in mind that many admins who seem to have been admins forever failed on their first attempt (Coffee and I are good examples). You don't lack anything that can't be learnt, and I meant what I said at the RfA. You'd have a good chance towards the end of the year. Feel free to drop me a line if you want to talk anything over or for a frank assessment of your chances in a few months' time. HJ Mitchell  &#124; <span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?  01:21, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks haha! I definitely had a Ommegang Hennepin after I withdrew.  It was quite refreshing! Thank you for your support as well.--  Dane  talk  01:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the support! I definitely understand the reasons behind this RfA and will be working to improve upon the things that were brought forth. I will definitely ask you for some feedback in the coming months to see how you feel i've improved. --  Dane  talk  01:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Dane, I've been there, done that, and know how the experience might be. I have to applaud your closing statement. Am sure the process will make you a better editor. Cheers. Lourdes  03:07, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I appreciate the kind words. --  Dane  talk  18:04, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Dane, I've not been through an RfA of my own like the above commenters, but I wanted to praise your comportment throughout the ordeal. Keep up the good work and hope to see you back there later this year! Snuge purveyor (talk) 14:21, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I also enjoyed your question during RfA, it was a good one.  I appreciate the support. --  Dane  talk  18:04, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

You have my support!
RfAs can suck, especially if it does not go the way you want but you have kept a positive outlook on the situation. I look forward to supporting you again on your 2nd nomination bid in a few months!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:33, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words and support! RfA isn't an easy process but it is definitely a necessary one. --  Dane  talk  18:06, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! I appreciate the comments and appreciation. --  Dane  talk  21:51, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

RfA
I was surprised to see you stand for RfA so soon. FWIW my plan was get you to do some article work, see how you did, and then see if that cemented things. However, I have recently said that I think you will pass with support roughly in the 70-79% range, and I stand by that. Somebody seems to have pressed Coffee's "bezerk" button and it's not good for the project :-(

Any vote I make in an RfA is a belief on how suitable I think the candidate is to have the tools at that time and nothing more. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:01, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback! I was impressed with the results of my ORCP and have realized my need for the tools which I what prompted me to run now (I can appreciate how it can look over eager though).  I appreciate your honest vote at RfA - I don't hold the oppose votes against anyone.  We're all entitled to our own evaluations of the candidates and constructive opposes help us get better administrators.  I will be taking your feedback regarding WP:WRITE - it is my intent to write more articles and you will see that as I get a little free time this summer between school.  Thank you again though for the kind words and explanation! --  Dane  talk  22:34, 10 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Off to a bit of a rough start in the oppose section, no doubt. And I'm partly to blame for that, so my apologies. If it keeps trending the way it's going right now these little early spats probably won't have much effect on the eventual outcome. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:46, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Definitely not necessary to apologize and I would have hated for you to not express your opinion fully. Thank you for doing that! --  Dane talk  04:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Dane, I'm thinking it might be worth pulling out of the RfA at this stage. At the moment you're on 59% support, and (assuming my calculations are correct) to just get it back to the discretionary zone of 65% will require over 20 supports without a single additional oppose, which is technically possible but probably not realistic. The discussion is still unpleasant, though most people realise your behaviour has actually been exemplary and commended you for it. If you do decide to withdraw, I can only repeat what I said after the fallout of Requests for adminship/CaroleHenson, and Carole has done a lot of work to up her game with an eye on RfA #2 being far more successful. Hopefully we can do the same thing here. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:59, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


 * (watching:) Why not listen to more comments? - My DYK of the day: become cheerful, my mind. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice. I have indeed withdrawn the RfA.  I will be working on the areas echoed in my opposes and appreciate your followup and commentary throughout.  I did not leave it open for more comments Gerda as they were becoming repetitive and I have a pretty good understanding of what the community would like to see from me based on the feedback that was echoed.  This was a particularly rough RfA no doubt, but it does not and will not discourage me from my participation with the project - quite the opposite in fact, it encourages me to work harder to improve myself here. --  Dane  talk  19:58, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Understand. I don't think it was particularly rough, though, I've seen the integrity of a candidate being questioned, and don't think that happened here, - confessing that I didn't read it all, - I'm here for writing articles. I have one more piece of advice: don't enter any discussion about the topic that has been called a drama-fest, - it's a waste of time. In 2013, I was called an infobox warrior, for restoring the "right version" after an edit war over Easter including article protection, weeks later. The discussion is still on the talk, but perhaps you or a watchful person can install a talk page archive system on what was called then the Sparrow Mass. This year, we'll sing Beethoven's in C major (and don't miss the line in the article about "called the episode Beethoven's 'most humiliating public failure'"). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I think I will follow that advice on the drama fest topics. That line did make me chuckle!  Oh how far we've come! --  Dane  talk  00:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * At the RfA I said "I do want to applaud Dane for the positive way they're taking this quite harsh RfA (which could be traumatic to one of less robust constitution), and to say I look forward to being able to support a future run", and I just want to repeat that here. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, and your withdrawal statement shows a lot of class. Glrx (talk) 21:32, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words both on the RfA when it was active and repeating that here. I appreciate it and I look forward to continuing to improve the encyclopedia and working on the issues identified with my editing at RfA. --  Dane  talk  00:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. It is my hope that there is no negative effects on future candidates deciding to run or not based on my RfA. --  Dane  talk  00:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Dane, I would like to echo several other people's comments, the way you handled yourself at your RfA in terms of civility, calm, and fortitude was most impressive. It likely won't surprise you that I was leaning oppose.  I saw issues that concerned me greatly but they were not ones that could not be addressed, and I do believe that you could pass an RfA at some time in the future, and I would be open to supporting.  Your withdrawal statement was indeed classy.  Gerda commented above about integrity, and I agree that your behaviour in response to a very stressful RfA has demonstrated your integrity impressively.  Integrity is an excellent characteristic in a potential future admin and, coupled with your willingness to learn and a determination to improve, gives me confidence that you can grow from this bruising experience.  I hope that you will not be discouraged from participating in Wikipedia.  In my opinion, you have earned the respect of many opponents, something that many unsuccessful RfA candidates do not achieve, and I hope that you can move forward seeing the positives in your experience.  Thank you for your service and contributions to date.  EdChem (talk) 02:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Dane, I hope your exams go well. EdChem (talk) 02:27, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ed! Powering through school like a champ!  I really appreciate your feedback and compliments and I am not discouraged at all by the experience at RfA, in fact it's lit a fire inside of me to do better.  I may reach out to you in a couple of months if you don't mind to re-evaluate my performance here (an outside set of eyes is always better in an evaluation).  Thank you again! --  Dane  talk  02:44, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear College is going well for you, the world needs all the educated people it can get! I'm happy for you to message me and ask for an opinion, I try to make sure I am fair and honest.  :)  EdChem (talk) 00:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! I appreciate your willingness to help and give feedback! I'll definitely be in touch. --  Dane  talk  17:45, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It would be good to have another active administrator on the Minnesota Wikiproject. Thanks for hanging in there. You were great, Dane. Jonathunder (talk) 15:22, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would be very cool as we need more admins around there. Thank you for your support! I appreciate the kind words. --  Dane  talk  17:45, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

My Username reported
Axtalent Hook is my personal name. How you have reported my profile as promotional username? Kindly tell me. Axtalent (talk) 17:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * "Axtalent" sounds like a promotional name and based on your editing history it's suspicious that your contributions are pretty promotional. An administrator will review this and determine what actions need to be taken and if it appears promotional to them.  I would recommend using articles for creation while you polish your skills so that editors can advise you on how to improve your articles instead of them going for deletion. --  Dane  talk  17:19, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh Ok. I see I used the option of "advanced users". I will stop using this option. But my username is my personal name it is not any business or promotional name. Axtalent (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Many transformers pages have been deleted and merged
Hi Dane, its not just the Contructicons, The Quintessions, The Insecticons, Thundercracker, and Cyclonus, (probably others as well) have been merged into one transformers page, and before that other pages were just deleted. I have made a Category page of Autobot/Decepticon subgroups and was going to add many subgroups to the list, but can't now until and if the pages can be recovered and spit up. Also the transformers page Bruticus needs to be re-named Combaticons for the decepticon subgroup page. Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:43, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

McAfee fair use rational
I am not aware of the reason that this doesn't qualify for fair use. Many other companies logos have logos used and used under the same rational. I got the logo from a google search from a website called "Under Construction". TheUSConservative (talk) 15:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The logo was not tagged correctly under policy. It appears to have been fixed now though. --  Dane  talk  01:33, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Mourning
I am very sorry to see that you have suffered a loss. Memory eternal! -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:50, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Thoughts​ and prayers to you. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing" </b> Talk to me 02:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Here is a kitten to help with your loss. Feel better soon, Buddy.

-barrelroll.dev (talk) 05:07, 29 April 2017 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>

CSD log
You mentioned a CSD log would be beneficial if I became more involved in CSD tagging. I have tagged a few articles in the past but want to get more involved after reading more about the policies behind it. Is there a page describing CSD logs or anything you can tell me about what one should look like?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 05:08, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Twinkle can be set to automatically keep a CSD log when you tag CSDs using it. It's really convenient for that. Do you currently use Twinkle? --  Dane talk  06:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Strange, the ping didn't ping me. Sorry about that. Yes, I have been using twinkle regularly for the past month now. Is that all it takes or do I need to set up a subpage of some sorts?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:54, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Twinkle will do it for you if you have the "Keep a log in userspace of all CSD nominations" checked on Twinkle/Preferences. --  Dane talk  01:33, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, Dane thanks for the help with this. I got everything setup smoothly today and it looks to be in working order. Thank you for the support here and earlier at the ORCP. When I start my RfA in the far future (no rush), I'll remember to express my gratitude to you for helping me out at the very beginning of this process.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:36, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * ✅ - Added image to where the original article was merged. --  Dane talk  19:28, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Trying to resolve edit conflicts and next my message to you
Hi Dane, I was sick all day! Below is an email that the editor who changed my Sloppy (disambiguation), sent me and my email to him. I will be doing research to resolve this issue. Also in my next post to you, we can discuss deletions and merging of pages that I don't think should have happened, and what to do about it. Also there has been many merging of pages that shouldn't have happened as well, but I will save that for my next post to you. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:48, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi, if you look at these disambiguation pages Spider (disambiguation), Wonder (disambiguation), Beast (disambiguation), and Boston (disambiguation) you will see that under wonder is the wonder years, small wonder, and wonder woman, under spider is spiderman and spider woman, and under beast is Beast Man (I had put Beast Man on "the beast" disambiguation page, but it was moved to beast page by an administrator) and under Boston is the title Boston pizza which is the same format that I was using. So why then is my formatting wrong? I may have to contact an administrator for help to resolve this issue. Davidgoodheart (talk) 19:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi David,Looking at other dab pages is not an ideal way to learn about Wikipedia policy and best practices. After all, how can you know whether editors on that page followed best practices, especially since dab pages aren't graded? Policy and MoS pages are much more reliable; for disambiguation pages, that means WP:DAB and WP:MOSDAB, and the policies that apply directly to this particular question are WP:PTM and MOS:DABSEEALSO.Of course you're welcome to ask other editors for their help or perspective on an issue! Three places you can do that are at The Teahouse, WT:WikiProject Disambiguation, and WP:EAR. You also might find WP:THIRDOPINION helpful. As for administrator requests, WP:RAA lists the kinds of situations that administrators can help with.Cases like this sometimes result in a refinement of policy. I've started a conversation about it at WT:MOSDAB. —Ringbang (talk) 22:52, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David. As suggested above by  the use of other pages in determining what practice we should use would not work.  We'd want to stick to the actual policy pages and request clarifications as necessary.  Since a conversation was already started, i'd give your input there for sure.  I don't think your argument or understanding of the policy is bad - I think we need to clarify it though as a community so that there's better guidance. --  Dane  talk  18:25, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Deleted pages
Hi Dane, The Transformers page The Contructicons was deleted, can you please find out why this was and if it can be re-added, as I have created a Decepticon Subgroup Category page and would like to add it to the list. Good luck with school! Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:09, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Will respond to this in the next day or two. Based on the prior deletions, it's likely due to inadequate sourcing or content, but I'll take a look and give you a better idea once I have a bit more time. --  Dane talk  17:16, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, its not just the Contructicons, The Quintessions, The Insecticons, Thundercracker, and Cyclonus, (probably others as well) have been merged into one transformers page, and before that other pages were just deleted, yet some of them haven't I have made a Category page of Autobot/Decepticon subgroups and was going to add many subgroups to the list, but can't now until and if the pages can be recovered and spit up. The pages that have been merged should be separate. Also the transformers page Bruticus needs to be re-named Combaticons for the decepticon subgroup page. Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:43, 19 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Based on the history and what I can see, the one page seems to be a better set up for the topic vs. several small, separate pages. If there is content missing from the merged page that was on the original, we can look at an undeletion so you can update the new page.  Is that the case? --  Dane  talk  01:33, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, are you doing okay right now? I didn't get back to you right away as I read your message and thought I would let you have some time to yourself. If you are able to contribute right now, I need to let you know that there has been a lot of unnecessary deletions lately for example please check out my Sloppy (disambiguation) page as you will see that a editor deleted stuff that he should not have, and that he claimed that it was unambiguous and I don't think that most of it was. Maybe you can see if the page can be restored into a better format. I began to re-format it, but I wasn't sure if I did it right so I only half restored it. Take care and remember that time helps to heal wounds. Davidgoodheart (talk) 03:05, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David. I am alright, slowly returning to normal life but my editing will be a bit sporadic for a bit still as I am still working through my grief.  As they say, the only way forward is to look at the beautiful process of life and take in it's beauty.  Easier said than done.  I appreciate the space and your patience with me.  In regards to your page on sloppy, I saw the removals and then I saw you added things back in.  I think the other editor has good intent but it may be best to open a discussion on the talk page to collaborate if there is still an issue or they want to remove things again.  Compromise and meeting in the middle or getting an uninvolved third opinion might be helpful in the event there's a dispute.  I'll keep an eye on that page and see if anything else happens that might be of concern.  Thanks for the kind words. --  Dane  talk  04:46, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Tables need fixing
Hi Dane, The List of The Transformers (TV series) characters tables are totally screwed up! I tried to fix them, but without much luck, could you please try to fix them? Davidgoodheart (talk) 07:27, 8 May 2017 (UTC) I take it you are doing better now? (I say this because you no longer have that post up claiming that you are greiving) If so I'm glad about that, take care,
 * ✅. The table has been fixed.  Was just an extra "|" in there.  I am doing better now, thank you :). --  Dane  talk  18:28, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, There are more tables on the List of The Transformers (TV series) characters that need fixing. They are tables Autobot Main characters (there needs to be a line between Ratchet and Ironhide) Autobot Cars, Mini Bots, Female Autobots, Technobots, Thottlebots, Insecticons (no black line on bottom) Contructicons (no black line on top), Stunticons (missing a shade of color from top part), Decepticon Main characters, cone heads, Decepticon City (trypticon), humans, Other characters and Beings all need fixing. I don't want to give you to much to deal with right now, so I just stick to one issue at a time. Please try to fix the other tables on the page if you can, thanks. Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Starting with Autobot Main...What kind of line are you looking for? A horizontal line, a line break, a bolded line?  I'm a little confused by exactly what you're looking for.  Thanks! --  Dane  talk  04:04, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, for Main characters between Ratchet and Ironhide I meant a straight line separating then just like all the other main characters and the same with all the other headings that are like that was well, just restore the boxes to the original form like before. The Headmasters, Airielbots, Dinobots, and Protectobots are tables that are still fine, just make them all like that, so I guess what I mean is a break line. Also some of the color heading are missing lines on the top and bottom is you look closesly. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I don't see a difference between the tables that are "fine" and the one that you're saying needs a change? Could there be an issue with your browser?  I had another editor look as well and they did not see a difference either? --  Dane  talk  20:31, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, maybe there is an issue with my browser, tomorrow I will go to the library to look at the page, thanks! Davidgoodheart (talk) 00:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Archiving messages and fixing color in heading
Hi Dane, could you please archive my messages on my talk page up to the title of Speedy deletion nomination of Disappearance of Gary Hayward. I am at the library right now and asked for help doing it, but they don't know what do and neither do I. Also about the List of The Transformers (TV series) characters you were right about it being a problem with my web browser, as there is nothing wrong with the page except for the table where it says Stunticons the name and Alternate Mode are missing color so could you please fix that? Thanks. Davidgoodheart (talk) 21:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ - I have fixed the formatting in the transformers TV series and archived your talk page as requested (and replaced the box with one that links to the archive). --  Dane talk  23:24, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Dane, I know I can always count on you when I need help. In the next day or two I will go to the library and print up info about edit disputes that I can look at to resolve some issues, I will get back you in a few days with things that I need to discuss with you about people's edits to certain articles. Take care! Davidgoodheart (talk) 03:28, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Formatting picture
Hi Dane, could so please format the picture on this article Bambi Hall so it the same as Brock Lesner, with the name above the picture, but still in the infobox? I tried to do it, but I couldn't. Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:41, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ - the trick is this is an infobox inside of an infobox! But it's all done :). --  Dane  talk  23:57, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Move Page
Reva Institute of Technology and Management → Reva University – Adhering to the guidelines of the page/topic name we need to change it to Reva University as the subject of the article has changed its name and the new name has come into majority use. Unable to change the subject article because the article already exist and redirected to the current article name. Requires to reverse the redirection and use Reva University as a article title. www.reva.edu.in Kindly do the needful. Akshay1114 (talk) 08:59, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello - Consensus was formed previously. Please open a requested move if you would like to formally request a rename on the basis of new information.  Also, if you are related to, please disclose that as your actions could be perceived as sock puppetry if used for vote stacking or disallowed actions. --  Dane  talk  23:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Recent article
I saw that you requested the deletion of a recent article. I'm actually writing a similar article here. I'd love it if you could give me some feedback on it. Once completed, I plan on moving it to wikipedia proper.VR talk  21:45, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This article looks pretty well put together, much better than the original that was merged in my opinion and the sourcing looks good. The "Since May 2015" heading seems...odd, might change that to "Increase in Mid 2010's" or something else?  That's really my only feedback on a suggested change. Great job on this article! Let me know if you have any move/title conflicts and i'd be happy to assist deploying it to main space. --  Dane  talk  23:10, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Getting and giving info about the List of people who disappeared mysteriously
Hi Dane, how are you doing? As I went though the history of the List of people who disappeared mysteriously, I noticed a lot of articles on missing people were removed because they had no sources, and some articles that were removed that could have gone on the solved cases list. I have re-added many of these to the list now sourced and to the both the missing people and solved cases list. I only went back to the 2015 history, just imagine if I went back further what I could find! (I do plan do that soon as well) Some of the 1970's list is so short, do you think you could write some articles to add to the list? I now know how to access newspaper articles and am going to make a website to post and them add them to the site as to as I plan to link the articles to them as I have three articles that I have written but have not yet posted because I don't have enough sources for them yet. I will address some important issue in my next message to you, take care. Davidgoodheart (talk) 23:05, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David! I know that list regularly gets trimmed for anything lacking sourcing, which is fine, I expect when people add to it that they will include sourcing.  I haven't had time to work on articles or even much vandal fighting this month due to a heavier course load for summer classes in college that ends at the end of June.  I've basically only been doing account creation and responding on my talk page to specific things. I will take a look into some cases and see what I can do, I would like to write a few articles over my summer break from school. --  Dane  talk  23:14, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

ACC Guide edit
Dane, you should probably clarify that last edit you made to the guide. The sentence you edited has to do with blocks. Does that mean no vandalism that resulted in a block within the last 72 hours? If so, does that mean we wait until the block expires to start counting the 72 hours or do we start the clock when the block is placed? Or does it just mean that there should be no vandalism, block or not, from the IP within the last 72 hours? I'm guessing it's the last one, but we want the guide to be as clear as possible, and you're the one that had the chat with Fastlizard, which is why I haven't tried to change it to what I think you meant.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 06:11, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Dane talk  18:24, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Username creation
Dane, I see you created the username at 15:38 UTC. Maybe you were working too fast? I've blocked the name as a violation of the username policy: "usernames that are likely to offend other contributors". Bishonen &#124; talk 15:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC).
 * Thanks. I went back and forth on that one as did another ACC user. Wasn't 100% sure that it was "disruptive" based on the request details, wanted to AGF as just an interesting choice in name. But I will be a bit less lenient going forward. Thanks. --  Dane talk  15:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see. I thought you had simply misclicked or something. Just an interesting choice in name? Bishonen &#124; talk 16:06, 30 May 2017 (UTC).
 * I can't share details of what's contained in ACC requests but based on my review I wanted to assume good faith. I discussed it in the ACC chat and won't be as lenient in the future with my good faith assumptions. --  Dane talk  16:16, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Fixing infoboxes and getting information
Hi Dane! Could you please fix these five infoboxes John Tenta, Tito Santana, The Undertaker, Rick Rude, and Alex Wright the way you fixed Bambi Hall? Also I am at the library right now and I have tried to find out how to link archived newspaper articles like this link here: that was left by another Wikipidia editor. The person I just asked does not know what to. Do you think you could figure out what how to link them? I really need to know how to do this since my Wilda Benoit article has been listed for deletion (it needs more sourcing). I will get back to you soon and I hope as is well. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

David Hopkins Edits
Hi Dane,

I want to apologize for not following the correct editing protocol, I'm brand new to wikipedia so I'm still figuring out how to edit properly. I've actually been working on this as a personal request from David Hopkins himself. I am a friend of his and I interviewed him recently so that we could update his page and put some more relevant information pertaining to his life and his career that might not be so easily found elsewhere (or at all, hence the issue with some of the sourcing). I think it's important to include his beginnings of how he got into music, the names of his past band members and collaborators, and some more personal information that he gave to me to really give a thorough understanding of his his life and career which is still very much ongoing.

I appreciate any assistance you might be able to offer me in this regard so that we can ensure that everything is accurate and well-written.

Thank you,

Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spmcman423 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Your automatic reversion.
I noticed a factual error on the page of "Willie Jones (statesman)" and then received a message that you had immediately reverted the edit indicating I had not referenced a source. I don't know how to do that. I was just reading the page and saw that there was an error, so I fixed it. Please make the amendment yourself - John Paul Jones was born in Scotland, not England. This fact can be checked using his birth records, or if easier, his wikipedia entry... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.45.249.157 (talk) 17:12, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * More buttons! Yay.  Glad to be able to help out :).  Thank you. --  Dane  talk  23:34, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Murder of Kylie Maybury and Murder of Sheree Beasley
can you give Murder of Kylie Maybury and Murder of Sheree Beasley a check for grammar, punctuation, general problems etc. ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Benjamin Austin (talk • contribs) 21:37, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I changed one word on the Kylie article, the rest looked pretty good. Nothing stood out on Beasley as needing correction. Good job! --  Dane  talk  23:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Chick Fil-A
You warned the IP twice, and the article was vandalized again. Do you want to take care of it?— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  15:07, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I got the IP blocked.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  15:29, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that! I didn't see the vandalizing again, may not have been around. --  Dane  talk  21:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Just Loomis Edit
Hello Dane, I see that you sent a message about the edit to my page Just Loomis. I am Just Loomis and I need to delete this information because I am do not want to have my page on Wikipedia any longer. Isn't is possible to delte my page if I no longer want it? Please let me know Thanks Just Loomis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahl9f (talk • contribs) 18:39, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The page appears to be well sourced and notability looks to be good on it. Wikipedia is a neutral source. The only way for it to be deleted is via a deletion discussion which would have to overwhelmingly form consensus that it is not a notable page. --  Dane talk  22:15, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

User:Rickchavez
I don't understand what's going on here. The account is an obvious sockpuppet (Sockpuppet investigations/Euexperttime) and yet you allowed it to be created. Sro23 (talk) 20:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I applied for the account, I've also left my case with Doug Weller to handle. But since I have the opportunity I would like to once again make my case. my partner and I were unaware of the policy regarding room mates for WP:Sock. I apologise profusely for that. However, you administrators both reacted harshly to the circumstances, nor provided any ability to regain the trust of the community, undoing work in which a sock puppet would be of no use (where there is one editor on an article). I wrote a long message to Doug, and he is handling it. However, I am incredibly upset at the way the case has been handled. I have not had the opportunity to make my case, and the assumption by admins has been one of malice on my behalf despite my many protestations that it is not the case. Wiki has a poor reputation of being controlled by overzealous fiefdoms of editors in the outside world, generally I have never found this to be the case until now. I, as I said before, apologise, but would like to regain trust the of commons.

An admin stopped me from even making my case, because he described me as insulting him, after he disregarded, quite coldly and inventively, the circumstances of my partner, which left me feeling justified in the way I acted. I would also like those circumstances to be erased from the internet. I did not feel comfortable justifying my personal circumstances to you, as you wouldn't to me. That is fair. I hope Sro23 and others won't take this poorly, and can look past both my mistakes and -understandable- if not totally excusable rage at how this was handled. Rickchavez (talk) 20:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * , is this true? I thought that normally, the main account is simply unblocked, hence my confusion over this person being given a new account which immediately has resumed disruption., if it's just you and your roommate like you say, that still doesn't explain the existence of multiple other sockpuppet accounts (like User:M1chaeljack for example). Sro23 (talk) 20:45, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I have no idea, I assumed that since I received both emails from Doug telling me that my case would be processed, and Dane creating my account I assumed this to be the case. But I am happy to defer. I addressed that in my emails. M1chaelJack was an alternative account, which I created to deal with a particular IP user on the Brexit article who attacks people who disagree with him by editing their talk pages and leaving crude messages and personal attacks. But I acknowledge that it may have been a breach of WP:Sock. Other accounts created yesterday, were an attempt to try and actually put my case to admins, and also valid, but I admit, inexcusable rage at the way the very personal and tragic story of my partners circumstances were dismissed. There was no need for that, and I'm angry I had to try and even justify it, though I understand. I still hope this can be resolved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickchavez (talk • contribs) 20:52, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've got no comments on the issue, I simply acknowledged that the Committee had received the email. The SPI is here: Sockpuppet investigations/Euexperttime/Archive. I don't understand why a new account has been created. Doug Weller  talk 21:22, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops, I see the SPI was already added. Doug Weller  talk 21:24, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I am not familiar with every SPI and if an ACC request passes the required checks, we assume good faith. I am reviewing the details of the request again to ensure nothing was missed and while I cannot give public comment on it due to confidentiality reasons, I can tell you that this request passed all checks and if evaluated again would pass again. --  Dane  talk  21:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm a long-time administrator and one of the project leads at WP:ACC. Though I can't disclose specifics for privacy reasons, I can confirm that per our procedures as documented at WP:ACC/G, the request for this account was totally clean and I concur with Dane's decision to create the account.  Surely you can't expect ACC volunteers to be aware of the minutiae of all the cases SPI handles; that goes well beyond our scope and, in my opinion, well beyond what a volunteer can be reasonably expected to know.  Furthermore, the IP address used to request the account has no (and has never had any) blocks or sanctions of any kind placed against it, nor is it covered by any local or global range blocks; this means that the user should have been able to create the account themselves.  Just because a user comes to ACC doesn't mean that they're getting around a block; many of our requests are because users can't read the CAPTCHA, for example.  It seems rather unfair to me to blame Dane for creating an account when there is nothing that would indicate abuse, and indeed no block that prevents the person from simply creating the account themselves.  -- FastLizard4  (talk•contribs) 21:44, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks to Dane and for your explanations - they are appreciated. Socks have so many ways to keep editing and no one can be expected to anticipate where they will turn up next. I hope you will forgive those of us that try and keep track of this kind of problem. When we see something like this we sometimes wish that there was a more clear cut way to stop them. Thanks again for passing on the details and I hope that everyone has a pleasant weekend. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:59, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Let's not forget that an admin described my partner's, (euexperttime) dead mother as an "irrelevancy" prior to that. I do recognise that it was inappropriate though. Rickchavez (talk) 22:03, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide a diff showing which admin said that? Perhaps you are referring to this decline of an unblock request by administrator ? The "Wikipedia is not therapy" comment was probably made in reference to WP:NOTTHERAPY; I don't think it was made to be insensitive towards anyone who has lost their mother, but at the same time there is/was no way for anyone to know whether such a thing is true. It was in response to this unblock request where you state that being blocked has humiliated you and Euexpettime, etc. and that further denying your unblock request would be heartless and shameful. You also claimed somehow that being blocked was an invasion of your privacy, but you and Euexperttime are the only ones who posted any of your personal information on Wikipedia. In addition, Euexperttime posted this in July where she states that she's been editing Wikipedia for years as an IP in a post trying to get another user banned, so the statements that both you and she made about starting to collaborate on Wikipedia at the advice of her counsellor after her mother's death seems to contradict her own words.
 * There were four other accounts blocked besides EU explained and Euexpertime in the original SPI and then 13 more newly created account were blocked for the same reason a day later. Is this just a coincidence due to others sharing your IP or did you/Euexperttime create those accounts as well? Some of the accounts have usernames such as "Rickyisadicky" and "Unaccountablerickbeingchallenge" and were used to make edit like this and this which seem specifically intended to cast aspersions on, who is an adminstrator in good standing, even though RickinBaltimore isn't even the adminstrator who blocked both accounts; he just declined your unblock request here. You do admit above that M1chaelJack was an alternate account you created because you were being harrassed by an IP. Yet you used that "alternate" account to !vote in a FFD discussion over the use of a non-free image despite having already !voted as EU explained. How do you explain this? Did you feel you needed to use this other account because you were being harassed? Do you understand that this is clearly not allowed per WP:ILLEGIT?
 * You've posted below about wanting to know what you can do to help decide the outcome of your case. I am not an admin so I cannot say for sure, but I think it might be a good idea for you to first review WP:UNBLOCK and WP:GAB (particularly WP:NOTTHEM) and then take a look at WP:OFFER to see if this is something you would be willing to try. Accounts indefinitely blocked as sock puppets are almost never unblocked, but the main account may possibly be unblocked. You are, however, going to have to convince an adminstrator that you truly understand the reasons for your block and that you will not make the same mistakes again. You may also have to be willing to accept that you may have to wait a specific period of time before asking for another review of your block and that unblocking your account may be contingent on your agreeing to certain conditions for another specified period of time. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:16, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * As fascinating as this all is, can I know what are the next steps for deciding on the outcome of my case, how long it may take, and what I can do to help? Rickchavez (talk) 21:53, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

My apologies if it seemed like I was being harsh or blaming you Dane, it wasn't my intention. I have no idea how WP:ACC works, but if every procedure was followed correctly, then I guess there was nothing that could be done. Apparently even WP:ACC isn't immune to abuse. Sro23 (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries! I appreciate you letting me know either way (now i'm familiar with this case which helps). --  Dane  talk  22:09, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, what do I do with this account? I'm assuming, that it would be inappropriate to use it from this conversation.Rickchavez (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I would discontinue use of it and wait for a response from the Arbitration Committee. --  Dane talk  22:17, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok. I hope to be back as part of the wiki community as EU_explained to regain your trust. Rickchavez (talk) 22:18, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, basically we can do some basic checks on the underlying IP address, and correlate the email address and IP address to previous requests (for a limited time period), but if the underlying IP has no clearly bad edits or blocks or anything like that, there's literally nothing to tell us if it's a sockpuppet or not. If there's a block, we sometimes get a checkuser to double-check the data, but in this case, there was no reason to suspect anything. As FastLizard4 mentioned above, our standard operating procedure (which probably covers 95% or more of requests) can be found at WP:ACC/G - you're welcome to have a read and see what we have available. In this case, it looks like all the evidence of socking has come with the first few edits of the account, which by definition has to happen after the account is created. We do what we can to limit abuse, while also recognising that we're the humans acting as the alternative route from automated protection (antispoof; titleblacklist; abusefilter) and also for wide-ranging blocks that have collateral damage - and the key is striking that balance between a newbie having a really hard time getting started and a malicious user evading defences. As almost mutually-exclusive goals, it's a hard problem to solve. <font face="Verdana">&#91; stwalkerster &#124; talk &#93;  22:23, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm not criticizing anyone here. There was nothing improoper with creating this account so far as I can tell. Doug Weller  talk 07:41, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Nyasaland
Dane, have you ever been to Nyasaland? --Lamb! Lamb! Lamb! (talk) 21:11, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No I have not. However, we must comply with the neutral point of view policy when writing for Wikipedia. --  Dane  talk  21:12, 9 September 2017 (UTC)


 * No problem. I am now going to revert your edit. I will then continue to agitate for Nyasaland to be a British crown colony directly governed by London, to which Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is the head of state. All schoolchildren will sing God Save the Queen every morning, and eat scones. --Lamb! Lamb! Lamb! (talk) 21:18, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do not abuse Wikipedia for your own personal views. We take disruption and vandalism seriously and would rather have your contributions in a productive manner. --  Dane talk  21:20, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

== Please block me. --Lamb! Lamb! Lamb! (talk) 22:05, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not an administrator and therefore am unable to block you per your request above. --  Dane talk  22:24, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Ethylphenidate edit
Hello. I removed a paragraph from the Ethylphenidate article, because I thought it was nearly unverified. The vast majority of scientific literature refers to methylphenidate as a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor. This is so immanently obvious that the extensively edited Wikipedia article on methylphenidate doesn't even bother to source the claim. Yet, there is an article that takes a contrarian position. Written by a group of authors only affiliated with a biotech firm, it suggests a hypothesis of inverse agonist-like activity. Their claim is interesting, but it has not been empirically observed. To quote the paper:

"Although we have proposed DAT 'inverse agonism' as a mechanism to rationalise the highly unusual pharmacology of cocaine, methylphenidate and other drugs, which are powerful stimulants, but are not DAT transporter substrates, alternative hypotheses can be put forward that would explain the pharmacodynamics of their actions on dopaminergic neurotransmission. For example, it could be hypothesised that cocaine and related stimulants may substantially augment the quantal release of dopamine by exocytosis. It would be very satisfying if new experimental data emerged to support the hypothesis that cocaine serves as a DAT 'inverse agonist', but it was not the primary objective for writing this review. The most important aim was to stimulate debate and new ideas about the pharmacological mechanism of action of cocaine and related stimulants because the more that we learn about the pharmacology of these intriguing drugs, the more obvious it becomes that they are not conventional DAT inhibitors".

In a fashion characteristic of internet forums that, like it, are relatively open to amateur discussion, Reddit's /r/drugnerds has come to accept this hypothesis as virtually fact. Now, it seems, this claim is being spread to more reputable sources, such as Wikipedia. The only way to maintain NPOV would be to decide on a uniform standard. Either we substantially tone down the paragraph, making it very clear the extremely hypothetical nature of this claim, and also add it to the Methylphenidate article, and also every other article on methylphenidate analogues that call them reuptake inhibitors. Or, we take the more sensible approach in my opinion, and remove this paragraph and ones like it. 74.70.36.141 (talk) 00:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Leah Remini Scientology & the Aftermath
You keep reversing my change - but the episode about the bridge is a special and the latest episode about David Misgavage is episode 4 as stated in the series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:BBA1:D900:15AA:9A06:19BA:DB09 (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please cite a source for the change. --  Dane talk  19:57, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure of the citation format to use but Mike Rinder's blog, www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-the-aftermath-s2-special-1-the-aftermath/ states that it's one of five special episodes that will be aired between the regular episodes this season.NJZombie (talk) 05:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Modernponderer
i was too late. Did you see their block log? Or this about an invalid 3rr warning? Doug Weller talk 20:15, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that wasn't going to end the way they wanted it no matter what. Seems like their WP:ROPE may be tightening if they don't reform.  I saw the block log.  They reverted my closure anyway though so you have your shot. --  Dane  talk  20:19, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I really don't want to touch it. Nor does anyone else it seems. Doug Weller  talk 18:54, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

How have you been?
Hi Dane, how have you been? I haven't heard from you in a while, is everything OK? Davidgoodheart (talk) 18:14, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi David! I am well! I decreased my web activity while I attended summer classes for school (way harder than spring/fall! so much homework) but I am back around to about my normal level for school. How are you? --  Dane talk  18:57, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, so good to hear from you! I have been working really hard since I have last talked to you, Could you please help me out with some things that I need to get done on Wikipedia, I am going to have some part time work soon, and I just can't do all this editing by myself. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:21, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I see your user page is full of content you created or updated! What can I help you out with? :). --  Dane talk  01:35, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, the first thing you could do is add these people Mitrice Richardson, Nurin Jazlin, Marcia Moore, and Dru Sjodin to the solved cased part of the List of people who disappeared mysteriously while using the correct dating, and it has now been largely expanding and broken up into sections. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I did the one i'm familiar with and I will add the others tomorrow after work. --  Dane talk  02:03, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅: Dru Sjodin, Mitrice Richardson, Nurin Jazlin
 * Marcia Moore
 * I completed the ones above listed as done. After reviewing Marcia Moore, i'm not sure it belongs under "Solved" because there was no resolution to the case in terms of causes etc. like the others, so I did not do that one. --  Dane  talk  23:35, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dane, Thanks for doing that for me. Please remember to put the entry in the exact place that being right under the date that the last enter happened and right over the date of the next entry, as all the entries are now set up that way, thanks! Davidgoodheart (talk) 23:25, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Understood. I wasn't sure of that setup right away, I see what you mean now. --  Dane  talk  23:35, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Dane! Regarding Marcia Moore, in her article it clearly states that her remains were found, so I added it. Could you please upgrade and add these article to the list Manon Dubé, Shirley Duguay, and Frood Fouladvand - (this on goes on regular 2007 cases, not solved cases). Please remember to add the date that they went missing and when they were found. Take care! Davidgoodheart (talk) 18:31, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks!
Hi Dane, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh 666 21:56, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, thank you for stepping up to take the mop! Glad to see your RfA passed :). --  Dane  talk  21:42, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Please help me fight deletion
Hi Dane, I have created the Disappearance of David Guerrero article, which is worthy of inclusion to the List of people who disappeared mysteriously, yet some people are trying to have it deleted, there are sources for this and is featured in YouTube videos, so it is worthy of inclusion, can you please help me combat this? http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0408/disappear5.html(talk) 04:19, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I could argue for it's inclusion under WP:NCRIME ("The disappearance of a person would fall under this guideline if law enforcement agencies deemed it likely to have been caused by criminal conduct, regardless of whether a perpetrator is identified or charged.") if there was a reliable source showing that the police believed a crime resulted in his disappearance, but the only source I found that says anything remotely close to that is not likely to pass the reliable sourcing test. Could you find more media reports specifically referencing the police involvement in the case? --  Dane  talk  04:45, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I have added more sources, including a YouTube videos, sources claim that the police were involved (I don't know what the videos says since it is in Spanish). A disappearance doesn't have to be a crime to be included does it? After all a disappearance is a disappearance. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * In the context of the List of people who disappeared mysteriously, I don't think it's been enforced that a crime had to have occurred. However, for these people to have an individual article, they must meet the General notability guideline or any other notability guideline (above, WP:NCRIME was used as it's the most likely one to qualify one of these articles). --  Dane  talk  06:58, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Upgrading Kelly Wilson articles
Hi Dane, could you please check out and upgrade these articles, Kelly Wilson, Kelly Wilson (comedian) (needs to be reviewed and hat note fixed) (might need hat note slightly different than others), Kelly-Anne Wilson. Disappearance of Kelly Wilson Thanks. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:48, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate more on the hat note issue? What's wrong with it? --  Dane  talk  22:32, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, when you compare these two hat notes For other people named Kelly Wilson see Kelly Wilson (disambiguation) and (click on edit source to seen the difference), you can see that second one is set up right. Can you please set the one up like the second one on the Kelly Wilson pages? This Kelly Wilson one might need a slightly different hat note since it is referring to three sisters. Davidgoodheart (talk) 08:28, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. --  Dane talk  00:44, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Beautiful Trauma (Pink song)
Hi. Why did you create Beautiful Trauma (Pink song) when Beautiful Trauma (song) already exists as a redirect? There is no other song of this name, so the extra disambiguation isn't necessary.  Ss 112  18:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not see that title. I have moved the article accordingly and will update links.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --  Dane  talk  18:06, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Player One Amusement Group Requested move 8 September 2017
Hi Dane, would you please consider relisting the move request for Player One Amusement Group to Playdium as there is new information released that there will be upwards of 10 to 15 new Playdium locations ? Given this, I think there's further evidence that Playdium is notable enough to get its own article separate from Player One Amusement Group. Or, I would also endorse a redirect of Playdium details to Cineplex Entertainment similar to how The Rec Room is featured in a section within the larger Cineplex Entertainment article. Thanks, Mcdl14 (talk) 17:04, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello! Thanks for stopping by to provide some new information regarding that.  As the prior requested move has closed and ran for almost a month, I would suggest that you start another requested move based on your new information and explaining why.  I also want to advise if you are connected with the entity you should disclose this per WP:COI as this is required for any potential conflicts of interest.  Thanks! --  Dane  talk  18:11, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

War on Drugs
Hi. I think you made a mistake in the War on Drugs page, and at the end it was obvious that the nominator didn't know which article he had proposed the name on (he seemed to have thought it was a universal page when it's an American page). This seems so clear to be an upper-case name that I would request a reopening and a relist for now. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:41, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. I looked over the RM again and believe my original closure is correct.  I understand this may not be the answer you're looking for from me and I invite you to use move review if you'd like to have a second look done by outside editors. --  Dane  talk  18:55, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking again. It should go to move review, will look at that later if nobody else starts one. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:58, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like a good close to me. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 19:14, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

EFH
Dane, I inadvertently closed your EFH request early, it has been reactivated with the original timeline. Apologies for any confusion, — xaosflux  Talk
 * Thanks for letting me know what happened :). --  Dane talk  15:51, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Coming clean
Hi Dane, yes I had real people create those accounts as I did not know that was against the rules. Many people who I asked agreed with me that my articles should not have been deleted and since I told not to canvas (I don't know why that would be wrong) I thought this would be okay to do this I didn't know this would be against the rules, now that I have made my confession how long will I be blocked for? Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:11, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It will be 3 days, according to the admin who blocked you. This policy details why canvassing isn't allowed. --  Dane  talk  04:02, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Thanks so much with your help moving the CaixaBank page, Dane! I do a lot of editing, but it's mostly for grammar, updating addresses, fixing or adding links, alphabetizing, etc., lol, and I'm not sure how all the admin stuff works.

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potential rfa
Since I have seen you around at ORCP, I would like to ask you, what are my chances of successfully running at RfA, in your opinion? (both with and without a nominator). --Kostas20142 (talk) 16:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * After looking over your length of time on en-wiki, i'd say you're at a solid 3/10 without nom, maybe a 4/10 with a solid nom. The primary factors would be the age of your account (1 yr, 1 mo, of which 7 months you could be counted as "inactive" due to no or low contributions); your primary contributing spaces (most of your contributions are to User talk pages); low lack of need (I could really only see you needing the tools based on your CSD log at this point). I would recommend increasing your participation in administrative areas and perhaps contributing at AfD a bit more. If you increase your participation and overall activity, I could see these changes improve in about a year or so. --  Dane talk  16:51, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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Moving forward and archiving talk page
Hi Dane, I gracefully accepted my block of three days, and am now editing again. I am being honest though when I say that I did not know that canvasing was against the rules (I still haven't read up on that and I will once I photocopy the page and read it its full form and will do the same with other pages as well). When I told a good friend of mine that I was told not to canvas he then suggested that I have people make accounts to fight my deletion (I really had talked my friends about make accounts before this happened so they could help me write articles) so I took his advice on what he said and though as long as these were real people it would be okay to do so and since these people were not yet Wikipedia editors that this wouldn't be canvasing or against the rules. I now found out that it was and do feel ashamed, but I don't think I should feel completely ashamed since I didn't now that was wrong. I now plan to photocopy and completely read what the editing rules are now. Thank you for telling me what to do in this situation by admitting that I did this, and I am glad I wasn't nailed very hard and DEFINITELY won't do that again! Now that my talk page is getting long could you please archive my page (I still don't know yet how to do that) and your next email to me can be the start of my talk page. I will have important issues to address in my next message to you. Take care. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:23, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Responded at users talk page. --  Dane talk  01:51, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

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Message from KillTimeEnt
Mines was removed but im trying to make wikipedia for myself as an artist I have worldwide albums and am associated with chief keep and drake I worked on music since 2012 and habe a household name for it no doubt the numbers tell it self just research me on lots of site look at my streams and downloads -- KillTimeEnt (talk) 01:54, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Please review WP:PROMO. Wikipedia is not a place for advertising or promoting yourself.  If you are indeed notable, you have a conflict of interest and should use the articles for creation process. --  Dane  talk  01:56, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles that have been deleted
Hi Dane, these two article articles were recently deleted and I am thinking the reasons for that were not good ones. Would you please check out these article's histories Anna Christian Waters and Death of Aisling Symes and we can see why they were deleted. Recently a lot of articles have been deleted for no good reason so I am going to contact an administrator about that, and we can discuss that in my next message to you, all the best. Davidgoodheart (talk) 08:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I cannot see the articles anymore as they've been removed however it looks like they did go through the AfD process and the community decided they were not proper for inclusion. --  Dane talk  01:58, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

ACC and Edit-a-thon
Hi,. I don't know if the ping from this discussion ever reached you; anyway, I was wondering if I could hear your opinion about question #1 from this user. Regards, Alex ShihTalk 03:22, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for alerting me here, not sure why the ping didn't reach me (just checked history too - it's not there, how odd). I will post a reply shortly for them with some more information on the ACC process. --  Dane  talk  01:45, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The ping thing was a site wide problem I think. Cheers, Alex ShihTalk 02:17, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

ACC and identify confirmation
Dane,

I chatted with BU Rob some time ago, and despite having no involvement in ACC, offered to get more involved because of the lack of overlap between OTRS and ACC. I have been busy and I haven't acted upon that but I've come up with an excuse to take initial steps. (However, given that you are active in ACC and a new OTRS agent maybe that can be your role.)

I recently responded to a ticket which looks like it was initiated by an email from you: ticket:2017102310004401

I'd like to discuss best practice processes. I'm assuming that when someone requests a username and you identify it as a potentially notable name you have a standard message indicating they have to confirm their identity with OTRS.

The issue I want to raise is that I have seen a number of these situations, and in almost all cases, the person wanting to register the username has the intention of editing an article with which they have a conflict of interest. It's my opinion that we should raise this question early because if they realize that they are not permitted to directly edit the article and that might be the only thing they intend to edit, they might rethink whether they want to an account at all. Of course, they might want to take advantage of our conflict of interest edit option to place a request and they will need an account for that, but that account could be a pseudonym rather than the real name.

That's roughly how I responded to this individual.

Let's open up a discussion, either here or ideally on café to talk through best practices.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  12:48, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi S Philbrick! That ticket is a great example of our "notable person" decline. We can open a separate discussion on café if necessary on practices for handling these, but i'd like to have part of it here in the open just for transparency purposes for those ACC members who do not have access to OTRS. The part i'm interested in keeping here is potentially changing the language of the email - from my understanding, you'd like to see more of a "notice" of potential issues/conflict of interest editing inside of the Notable Person decline, is that correct? And potentially adding some language suggesting they could also retry with a pseudonym?
 * As it stands right now, we currently process these notable requests like this: ACC Agent identifies a notable person in their request -> ACC Agent declines as notable person, sending a template message advising the requestor to identify through OTRS (current message includes no COI information) -> OTRS Agent verifies identity and notifies someone on the ACC team either via internal OTRS channels, IRC or through email to the ACC mailing list -> ACC Agent re-evaluates request taking into account the verification and if all checks pass, creates account -> ACC Agent closes request as "Created/COI Risk" which sends information about conflicts of interest.
 * Let me know if I missed anything in that summary. Pinging, , , , , , and specifically as well so they can give input if they desire. --  Dane  talk  02:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know what request this is related to since I don't have OTRS access, but the ACC close language could be changed. On procedure:
 * An ACCer with OTRS access must verify the identification in the OTRS ticket (and note it in the interface) before ACC can proceed with account creation.
 * If the private data for the original ACC request expires, a new ACC request must be completed by the requester noting the OTRS ticket number in the comments field. OTRS may need to communicate this since ACC probably will not have the email address. Maybe we should just make the standard OTRS "close" instruct the requester to create a new ACC request with the OTRS ticket number in the comments field.
 * —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:24, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No objection to a change in current wording of the OTRS email to include COI information, though even with that included I doubt people will be deterred much from editing their own page, as often we see that people do not fully read our emails. Please ping me again if you need specific input on something. -- DQ mobile  (ʞlɐʇ)  05:46, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing this out, our "notable person" decline message should be amended to address this issue, however is correct about the user not reading the entire mailing.    -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 14:30, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. Our Notable Person decline has been updated to include COI language per the discussion above. --  Dane talk  15:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

I fully agree with DQ that many people won't read all of what we write, and I know in my own personal experience I have to watch out that I don't "bury the lede".

However, having seen a number of these verification of identity requests at OTRS, here is my (admittedly made up, but I think plausible) interpretation of the sequence of events through their eyes:

Some Famous Person (FP for short) notices that there is an article about FP, and wants to contribute to it. They create a username, naturally choosing FP as a username and edit the article. They are blocked and told they can't use the username FP unless they really are FP and identify themselves to OTRS, and then we might tell them some other things, but they stop reading and decide to deal with the first point.

I bet they're thinking, "Wow. that is a great policy. I wouldn't want some Yahoo pretending to be me and editing the article about me as if they are me, so kudos to Wikipedia for making sure that the only person who can have username FP is actually me. So now I'll go off to this whatever OTRS is and prove that it's me and then I can return and edit the article about myself."

Thereby completely missing the more important point that they should not be directly editing that article. (As an important aside, verification of identity is not trivial because we do not want photocopies of drivers licenses or passports or birth certificates, so we often have to spend some time talking about how they can prove who they are without those documents. This takes him back and forth and then when it's finally done, we remind them that now that they can use that username they can't use it to edit the article about themselves which is the only thing they wanted to do anyway. What a waste of time.)

My hope is that by changing the message, making sure that the first important point is that the real FP should not be directly editing an article about FP, then following up with advice on how to request COI edits in case they are actually FP, or arranging for a different username if they aren't really FP, and only then finally, suggesting how they can get unblocked by confirming identity if they truly are FP and understand that they will should not be directly editing the article. It's my belief that in a high percentage of cases, they will realize that if they aren't supposed to be directly editing the article about them, they won't be interested in jumping through the hoops to confirm their identity.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:19, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was quick :) -- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:25, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Someone mentioned burying the lead and missing the "point" entirely. I've closed a half-dozen tickets by literally repeating the ACC message because they didn't include photographic or otherwise clearly identifying information. Very occasionally someone sends mail from their company account so it can be verified without photographic evidence, but these are few and far between. The fact that evidence needs to be submitted really should be more prominent. Primefac (talk) 12:53, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you have a proposal for language you'd like to be prominent in the email decline advising for the need for evidence? I'm open to the idea. --  Dane talk  02:23, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not, but it is also late. Maybe just some emphasis on the "need photographic evidence" bit. Primefac (talk) 06:13, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

List of Thomas & Friends voice actors protection
I need your help! It's an emergency! Is there by any chance you can protect this page indefinite, because several IP users keep vandalizing the info with the narrators as well as the voice actors info, I'm only trying to keep it the way they are and for being vandalized. Please! 174.192.19.109 (talk) 23:29, 22 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.192.10.92 (talk)
 * I am not an administrator, so I cannot protect/unprotect pages. Please file a request at WP:RFPP - if you need help with that, let me know :). --  Dane talk  01:01, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

OK sorry, I thought you were one. 174.192.5.57 (talk) 01:20, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Recent unnecessary deletion of articles is very upsetting and leaves my editing future in doubt
Hi Dane, as you can see a lot of my articles have been deleted. While I agree that some of my articles and categories pages that were deleted was okay, I can say some deletions absolutely weren't. And it's just not my pages that have deleted, a lot of other people's articles including some categories pages have been deleted as well. Also some editors comments about me and to me have been hurtful. One editor says something like "I do not get why my articles should not be kept and deleted" or something along those lines. Well that's not true, as I can see their reason for wanting to do so, which I (as well as many people whoom I know personally) don't agree with. Someone else says what I write about is not "notable" and should not be included on a disambiguation page, yet one of my best friends who is also very smart about these topics says that they were notable (people have different view-points about what is "notable"). An administrator claims that he doesn't buy that I didn't know the rules about sock puppeting - well I really didn't (I explained this to you in a previous message), as I haven't yet photocopied the rules and read them in full detail (I want to be to look at them whenever I want, instead of having to read them on the computer), also I am very honest person as I don't lie. I don't understand why people often feel they need to delete someone else's articles, or why they can't just worry about their own articles and leave others alone. I have always just made my own articles and improved other people's article's and have never felt the need to delete someone else's article. Wikipedia administrator Iridescent (please check out my recent messages to him on his talk page, about what I "might" do in the future, and more on that in my next message to you) suggested to me maybe to write about someone else beside missing people, (well the fact that pages are often linked as what might appear on one page, may appear on another page, so that might not be feasible, and more about that in my next message to you). If I am unable to alter this situation, and if articles (both mine and people's) keep getting deleted, I may just want to give up editing completely (I will have to give this a lot of thought) if all my hard work is just going to keep going right down the drain (my editing as of late has been very minimal, as I have not written any major articles). This would be very upsetting to me, because Wikipedia is one few thing that I (mostly) know how to do all by myself which requires great skill (it sure took me a lot of time and effort to learn this!) Please let me know what you think, and I will share more information in my next message to you, take care. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:51, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to hear about the issues you've been having on Wikipedia. I have looked over the deletion discussions and while I think we need to reform our requirements for missing people articles, they were supported for deletion by multiple people for policy based reasons. I feel that many of these articles had a place but I also understand some of the rationale for deleting. In regards to the sock puppetry thing, I believe that The 2014 SPI is why people think you already knew or should have known the rules relating to socking. I would love to see you to continue to contribute and I definitely get your frustration - you put in a lot of work on the articles and to see them get deleted is pretty defeating - I would encourage that you take some time away from the debates with and  (And I believe both of these editors have nothing but the best intentions for guiding you, by the way - they are great editors) and focus on a new area of contributing that you find interesting. I'd also encourage you to review the policies before you start contributing further so that there aren't any more misunderstandings or situations that arise. --  Dane  talk  19:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * In the next few days I will be getting all the info I need and printing it up, so I can read it in full detail and at any time as well. I have a new request for you: Do you think you can make me a web design which I can put on my talk and user pages? I am asking you for this of you because I have no idea how to do this. Davidgoodheart (talk) 03:52, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Possibly, what kind of design are you thinking? I'm not an expert by any means, which is why my pages are so basic... --  Dane talk  04:28, 16 November 2017 (UTC)


 * It will also be very basic, just what I am about and what I stand for, which look like other peoples pages. You could start by copying what you have at the top this page, and then adding it to mine, just change the wording and you can decide what to write for this section. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:40, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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I was attempting to add a template with  abbreviation. 146.229.240.200 (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like you fixed it. Thanks for letting me know. --  Dane  talk  19:02, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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<div style="border-style:solid; border-radius: 32px; border-color:#009600; background: #FFFBC4; border-width:8px; text-align:center; padding:7px; height:210px;" class="plainlinks"> Merry Christmas !!

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Merry Christmas!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#01902a; background-color:#fff; border-width:3px; text-align:center; padding:3px; height:211px; width:800px;" class="plainlinks"> Merry Christmas! Joyeux Noël! ~ Buon Natale! ~ Vrolijk Kerstfeest! ~ Frohe Weihnachten! ¡Feliz Navidad! ~ Feliz Natal! ~ Καλά Χριστούγεννα! ~ Hyvää Joulua! God Jul! ~ Glædelig Jul! ~ Linksmų Kalėdų! ~ Priecīgus Ziemassvētkus! Häid Jõule! ~ Wesołych Świąt! ~ Boldog Karácsonyt! ~ Veselé Vánoce! Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством! Hello, Dane! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:55, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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Seasons' Greetings
...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:09, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas!
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Happy holidays and new year
Happy holidays and new year and all the best in 2018! Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Saying Hi and getting information

 * Hi Dane, how have you been lately? I am currently experiencing a lot of frustration as I am often having disputes with other editors, What I would like to start doing (when I can) is start to make some "Independent Wikipedia Articles". There will be a lot of information that I will need too share with you about that, so we can discuss that next time. Do you know anything about how to make independent Wikipedia articles? I look forward to hearing from you, and take care. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy holidays and new year
Happy holidays and new year and all the best in 2018! Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Your signature
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Orphaned non-free image File:XfinityMobileLogo.jpg
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Saying Hi and getting information

 * Hi Dane, how have you been lately? I am currently experiencing a lot of frustration as I am often having disputes with other editors, What I would like to start doing (when I can) is start to make some "Independent Wikipedia Articles". There will be a lot of information that I will need too share with you about that, so we can discuss that next time. Do you know anything about how to make independent Wikipedia articles? I look forward to hearing from you, and take care. Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:05, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Please make sure you don't remove others content as you did with this edit when posting your own. <b style="color:Red">Chris "WarMachineWildThing"</b> <b style="color:Blue">Talk to me</b> 02:16, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I thought that I had just removed my old message and re-posted it, I now see what else I removed, and it was a mistake, thanks for letting me know. I though you were retired from editing. Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Trump, 2017 flag image
Greetings Dane.

I am writing to find out what is needed to keep my paragraph in the page. Actually, I posted my image with description/meaning to two pages but your comment indicates only one. It has been edited out of each. Did you do that to both entries? That would make things simpler in terms of resolving things. :) Here are the pages in which I posted my image/description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag_(LGBT_movement)

I do have a new reference so perhaps that is the key issue? I am not sure why noting oppression from a powerful source is considered unconstructive. I modified the flag at the time (still relevant) to make an artistic-political statement about both Trump and the need to support BLM within the LGBTQ movement.

Help with each of these matters would be most appreciated and I'm happy to make needed changes. Also, how can I be alerted to such changes to my entries/edits in the future?

Source for one point: https://www.glaad.org/trump

With thanks!

Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulThePony (talk • contribs) 18:55, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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Deletion pending for File:ODKoboHeadshot1.png
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A kitten for you!
Dane, sorry. Won't happen again. I apologise.

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Gregg Karukas article on Wikipedia...
Dane, I posted on the Gregg Kaukas article on his career. his wife Yvonne died on March 17th of Cancer. I'm not sure who to quote because it's coming directly from Gregg's own Facebook page. Please let me know how to post correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.216.6.195 (talk) 02:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Seeing how you are doing
Hi Dane, how have you been? I haven't heard from you in a while and I was wondering how you are doing. Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:06, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello David. I've been well - very busy recently and all my time on wiki has been spent at account creation trying to work through the huge backlog. How are you? --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 02:55, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Dane! It's great to here from you. I'm still edit Wikipedia, but am not as active due to edit conflicts. Because of this I am now making my own private Wikipedia page called The "list of people who disappeared" which will differ from the List of people who disappeared mysteriously as it will focus on the fact that the person disappeared not why the disappeared. When you drop the word "mysteriously" from the list it gives more reason to keep people on the list as that way if they went into hiding, were kidnapped, or were known to have been killed, but were never found it gives more reason to keep people on the list as those still ARE disappearances. I was told that writing about these issues without the protection of Wikipedia can be risky due to libel issues, so it will remain unpublished, yet I will let some editors edit it. Would you like to be one of them? The person who is helping me with it says it should only take two more sessions until it is ready. I was wondering how to find the list of all the articles that were deleted and merged over the years, do you know where I can find that list or could you supply me it's link? Davidgoodheart (talk) 05:46, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Longsword
Hi. You mistakenly commented on my talk page.

Regarding the Longsword article. Dubious claims can removed − or require citations. The claim that viking swords can be called ‘longswords’ comes from Dungeons & Dragons, is in every way dubious, and can be deleted!

If for some reason you feel the viking sword can be called a ‘longsword’ please cite the academic source.

172.4.208.9 (talk) 17:56, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Please discuss on the talk page and gain consensus. Your tag was not formatted correctly, please use   to tag the section instead of manual comments. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 18:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Okay, i will stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theylikenick (talk • contribs) 17:15, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Original Research
When saying a website is live again, it is not necessary to source it. One could easily look and see the website is live. You made an error. CRAuser (talk) 04:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello! I left a message at your talk page.  We have a policy of no original research. Additionally, the way you added that implies information that would be gained through original research.  If you can find the information in a third party source, feel free to add it back with citations. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 04:18, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page Review Newsletter No.10
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Apoorv Om Page
Hi Dane, about your suggestion to delete Apoorv Om page, I would like to tell you that I have added many news references and personal website of the person. So please, kindly check other references also before asking for deletion of the page. For now, I am little busy but I will be editing the page soon by adding more references and give a final shape to the wiki page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bashirahmad371 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I still stand by my original opinion that it does not meet notability guidelines. --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 18:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Revertion to PC Play & Learn
Hello Dane, on my PC Play & Learn edit, you have reverted it for saying "less neutral" and I'm OK with that, nothing wrong, but it was REALLY unknown to lots of people. It had also had more info by the YouTuber Tamago2474. I can add more info if you want, but with the same info too.

Zakrii (talk) 13:53, 3 April 2018 (UTC) Thank you, Zakrii.

Thank you for your nice message
I was in edit conflict with the creation of the article and am listed as the 2nd edit of the article. It was in extremely rough shape. However, now the critical info is there so there is not an urgency to edit anymore. I can add edits slowly another day or later today. Thank you for your kind message. Southwest Boat (talk) 19:50, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Seeing how you are doing
Hi Dane, I just was wondering how you are doing, I hope all is well. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I am doing well, how are you? What are you working on article wise these days? --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 01:34, 18 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Dane, other than the fact I am dealing with some VERY frustrating issues, I am okay. Today I will be getting help with the problems I am having, and I hope I can work it out, though it could take a while. Could you please add a picture to this article Disappearance of Kelly Dae Wilson, and do you want to contribute to my own private wikis when they are ready? My own private wikis are my main projects right now. Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for approving my user page
I thank you very much for approving my user page. It is very appreciated. Rock on. UnsungKing123 (talk) 04:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Art Simmons
Dane, he passed away today. I am his cousin. Please change it back. Chaoticdiva (talk) 22:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello! We require verifiable third party sources for the death information before we can include it on the encyclopedia. You are welcome to add it back once these sources become available. My condolences for your loss. --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 22:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism from 209.237.111.98
Hi.

I'm the technology coordinator at Sejong Academy in Minnesota, the owner of the mentioned IP address. I just noticed that a few pages have been vandalized by our students. Please if you wish block our IP from further edits (unless they have an account). In our end, we decided not to have a school-wide education as I am afraid that will get students to do more vandalism than less as those who were unaware of this prank will start it.

If you have any questions, talk to me, please. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooljinsoo (talk • contribs) 17:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , please send an email to from an official school account making this request so that we can confirm its veracity (i.e. you're not some random person making a request to block someone without their knowledge) and take the appropriate actions. Primefac (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Getting in contact, and what I am doing right now
Hi Dane, I hope you are doing well, and I am okay other than the fact I am dealing with some VERY frustrating issues. Could you please add a picture to this article the Disappearance of Kelly Dae Wilson. Right now I am creating my own wiki which will be called "The list of people who disappeared". Do you want to contribute to my own private wikis when they are ready? My main private wiki will remain unpublished do to libel issues, but will be great since I can add to it whatever I want and won't have to worry about them being deleted or altered. My own private wikis are my main projects right now. Take care and all the best. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi David! I hope things are well. I'll look around and see if I can find a photo for the article. I'm not sure if you remember but I found that permissions for the missing people photos are a bit more complex than I initially thought. In terms of contributing to another wiki, I'll have to decline for now as I've been trying to focus my time on Wikipedia and getting back into editing here. Perhaps in the future though :). Hope you're well! --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 00:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Dane! I am so glad that you are doing well, as you seem to be in good spirits. If you want to decline for now thats okay with me, just remember thought that I will be adding articles that should not have been deleted to my private wikis, and whenever you want to contribute is fine with me. Take care! Davidgoodheart (talk) 00:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Islam84
Thanks. I was going to block but Swarm beat me to it. Doug Weller talk 13:33, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem! Looks like they haven't posted anything on their talk page yet. I'm curious to see if they appeal the block. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 20:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

DS alert
TonyBallioni (talk) 17:24, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:
 * WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

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Paid editing - new policy
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Suggest reopen
You appear to have misinterpreted my !vote and I suspect several others. I certainly do not support the move as it has been performed, I don't think that Avanti Software is P T and said so explicitly. Suggest that this close might be reconsidered, and the participants asked whether they really support the action taken. Andrewa (talk) 09:45, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I offered an alternate option at the talk page. The consensus was for sure to move so this way if it's to go to the original target we can gain that information a little easier. --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 22:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Celebrity Big Brother 1 (U.S.)
FTR, I was strongly considering putting this one up for a WP:Move review, as it was clear there was not consensus to move to the proposed title, but I suppose I will hold off while the new WP:RM goes forward. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:22, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your feedback regarding this. As i'd like to ensure I am doing things correctly, I re-evaluated the RM and stand by the decision I made in determining consensus. If you'd like to submit it for move review, i'd welcome the additional scrutiny. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;">Face-smile.svg --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 23:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it's would be pointless to request a WP:Move review right now, with the new RM currently ongoing. But, yeah – I would have closed that (and I generally don't like closing, so I actually would not have closed that, even if I hadn't participated!) as "no consensus", because while there was "consensus to move" it, there was definitely not consensus to move to that title. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:42, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Big Shark
Hello, there was a big shark added to the game and I'm trying to inform the masses of this new development. To my dismay there would seem to be another with the intent to corrupt my addition to this wonderful, wonderful article. If you would be so inclined as to allow me to keep this update regardless of if this address is blocked from making further updates I would be enthralled. Happy Holidays. 160.127.15.39 (talk) 22:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.127.15.39 (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Response
Hi, sorry I dont know how to respond to you correctly so im just editing this source. I've been working through some issues with my wifi and i was trying to test the response rate for it. does doing what ive been doing hurt wiki in any way? if so ill stop. sorry. coleonguard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coleonguard (talk • contribs) 01:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded at your talk page. --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 01:57, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Seascaper
Hi.I would like to know the answer to a simple question.Is it correct for an editor to delete a further reading entry just because that book appears in the reference section? (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seascaper (talk • contribs)
 * If a source is used as a reference, there's no need to include it in a "further reading" section, and if that source is the only thing in the section, then removal of the entire section would be justified. Primefac (talk) 15:41, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Vladimir Andrejić
Check it better, there is much more then just links to music, if you dont understand serbian give to someone else that do — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.217.22.219 (talk) 00:43, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message! The AfD will run its course and the community will decide. I did my WP:BEFORE research and maintain my stance on the article. --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 00:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

hello help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlada1234uu567 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Edits on Sky Sword
Hi and. Thank you for your edits on Sky Sword. The IP in question is a LTA and you can find more info on them on this page. Happy to provide more details. Please be careful. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 14:47, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 02:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

File:IOS12-ScreenTime.jpg
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NPP Backlog Elimination Drive
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

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 * As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
 * Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: NPPbarnstar SE.png. Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: RR3217-0014 100 rubles USSR 1989 Gold avers.png, Swiss-Commemorative-Coin-1991-CHF-250-reverse.png, Coin of Kazakhstan 500Thinker averse.png, US-$1000-SC-1878-FR-346a-PROOF.jpg.
 * Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.

Question about abuse filters
As you look like an expert on the subject, would like to ask a question. On English Wikivoyage we have a problem user who is constantly creating new accounts then just making one or two minor edits. This can be a couple of accounts a day and has been going on for years. We know the ip range, all Telstra Australian mobile. Also never confirms Email address. Other admins have created tag filters for the ip range, and for mobile edits with unregistered email. However the ip test appears only to work for non logged on user edits. Is there a way to test ip address range or provider of a named editor? Any suggestions on how to identify the pattern with code? --Traveler100 (talk) 08:03, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I would redirect you to who writes filters regularly. They can be of much more assistance than I could be. I can read the filters but I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 03:19, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Saying hi and giving update

 * Hi Dane! I just wanting you to now that I hopefully will be getting help this week with my projects (my helper was sick last week and counldn't help me), and since I have seen a lot of deletion lately, I will be very glad when my projects are making real progress, since I will be able yo control how they are formatted. I hope everything is going well for you, and take care!

Davidgoodheart (talk) 08:43, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers. Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
 * June backlog drive


 * New technology, new rules
 * New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
 * Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
 * Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.


 * Editathons
 * Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

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Thanks for nominating me to be autopatrolled
This is nearly a month late by now, but thanks for nominating me to be autopatrolled. I have no idea how I got on your radar, but being "autopatrolled" is something that had never been on my own radar as something to seek out on Wikipedia. It's very cool to get recognized for something you didn't even realize you were eligible to receive. Again, thanks! —BLZ · talk 06:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Albert Cashier
You have previously participated in discussions about the use of gendered pronouns in the biography of Albert Cashier. An Rfc about this topic is taking place at Talk:Albert Cashier, and your comments are welcome. Mathglot (talk) 18:32, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.


 * Project news
 * The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
 * As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.


 * There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See New pages patrol/Coordination for more info to see if you can help out.


 * Other
 * A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.


 * Moving to Draft and Page Mover
 * Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
 * If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
 * Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
 * The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
 * The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.

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Request
I need to request you that please add the impersonator tag in User:Whydr by adding {&#123;Blocked impersonator|Widr&#125;}. Thank you. 122.162.93.195 (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ --  Dane <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 21:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Second Class Citizens for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Second Class Citizens is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Second Class Citizens until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Catrìona (talk) 05:26, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
 * Backlog


 * Community Wishlist Proposal
 * There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
 * Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!


 * Project updates
 * ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
 * There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.


 * New scripts
 * User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing copyvio-revdel on a page.

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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
Hello ,
 * Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
 * Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.


 * If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.


 * We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.


 * With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello ,

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
 * Reviewer of the Year
 * Thanks are also extended for their work to (15,059 reviews),  (12,760reviews),  (9,001reviews),  (8,440reviews),  (8,092reviews),   (5,306reviews),  (4,153 reviews),  (4,016reviews),  and  (3,615reviews)., , , and  have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only sevenmonths, while , with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top100 reviewers.

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
 * Less good news, and an appeal for some help

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
 * Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

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 * Training video

Merry Christmas Dane
Merry Christmas Dane, take care and all the best! Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Merry Christmas man! Hope you have a good one! &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 06:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Wishing you all the best -- The SandDoctor Talk 07:55, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year
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Happy New Year! Dane, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

Davidgooheart (talk) 00:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Category:X86 Supercomputers has been nominated for discussion
Category:X86 Supercomputers, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 99Electrons (talk) 04:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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WikiProject Apple Inc.
Hello ,

You've been identified either as a previous member of the project, an active editor on Apple related pages, a bearer of Apple related userboxes, or just a hoopy frood.

WikiProject Apple Inc. has unexpectedly quit, because an error type "unknown" occured. Editors must restart it! If you are interested, read the project page and sign up as a member. There's something for everyone to do, such as welcoming, sourcing, writing, copy editing, gnoming, proofreading, or feedback — but no pressure. Do what you do, but let's coordinate and stay in touch.

See the full welcome message on the talk page, or join the new IRC channel on irc.freenode.net named. Please join, speak, and idle, and someone will read and reply.

Please spread the word, and join or unsubscribe at the subscription page.
 * RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) and Smuckola on behalf of WikiProject Apple Inc. - Delivered 15:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Your welcome ~:)~

Mitchellhobbs (talk) 20:06, 10 April 2019 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>

Spider moves
has misread WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA: "The exception is when a monotypic genus name needs to be disambiguated. The article should then be at the species, since this is a more natural form of disambiguation." Most of the moves you made for him were wrong, and need to be undone. I undid one before realizing that it had been requested as a noncontroversial technical move. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:11, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe I am misunderstanding it too, but why would the genus name need to be disambiguated in this case? I'm just trying to understand that MOS cause I may have been misinterpreting it as well then. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 17:36, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The moves at Requested moves/Technical requests were all from a species name to "GENUS (spider)". So they would definitely be wrong based on WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA. I haven't checked in every case that "GENUS" alone is not available; if it is, then of course the article can be moved to that title. However, e.g. Empanda, Erica and Hakka are all preoccupied for non-spiders.
 * I have sympathy for Sesamehoneytart's mistake. I personally think the guidance re disambiguated genus names is wrong, but the "dab crowd" have always pushed for the use of natural disambiguation whenever possible, which means we have to use the sole species as the title, not the disambiguated genus.
 * Peter coxhead (talk) 19:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah! Understood.  It most definitely confused me and I didn't understand that the first time around, I thought it meant something totally different.  I will reverse those moves shortly.  My apologies for the mistake. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 19:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. The spiders have been restored to their proper homes. Thank you again for pointing this out! --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 19:50, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And thanks for fixing it. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:39, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

LISTN
Greetings Dane! I would like to discuss your close of Articles for deletion/List of Irish supercentenarians. Obviously there was a numeric majority for Keep, but I do not see any valid policy-based arguments by those !voters. Some people invoked WP:LISTN as the essential reason for keeping this list, and you mention this in your closure, while my nomination also cited LISTN to delete it. That policy states: Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. None of the "Keep" !voters has provided any RS that discusses Irish supercentenarians as a group. I would therefore like to contest the applicability of LISTN to this particular group unless such sources are exhibited. — JFG talk 07:22, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello! I reviewed my closure and invoked some outside opinions as well and at this time I believe the closure/determined consensus is correct (the closure was not based on the numeric majority but the arguments of the !voters).  As such, I will not be re-opening the discussion but deletion review may be appropriate if you'd like to dispute it formally on-wiki.  Thanks for bringing your concern up, I appreciate it! --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 21:25, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for having applied en.wp policy on finally closing that Beatles song RM. It needed someone to close it against special case treatment for Beatles songs. If you get any grief please ping myself and others. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:58, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Karikku
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Karikku. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Waggie (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Maya Death Rituals
I changed all the word that say mayan to maya because the word mayan is grammatically incorrect as well as the word incan — Preceding unsigned comment added by B0be the Y (talk • contribs) 02:59, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd propose the change on the talk page before making that to the article. Preferably with citations of the reason why it is incorrect in its current form. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 03:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Look up maya vs. mayan in a new tab and see what you get — Preceding unsigned comment added by B0be the Y (talk • contribs) 03:07, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Material changed without citations material may be challenged and removed. Please specifically refer to a reliable source that makes the argument for the change you're making. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 03:10, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
 * Backlog drive coming soon


 * News
 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


 * Discussions of interest
 * A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
 * There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
 * What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7242 Low – 2393 High – 7250

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Munich knife attack
Ooh - please could you undo and relist this RM? I missed it, and as you'll see from previous RMs this is a contentious subject for which certainly no consensus has ever existed that would allow a move on the nod. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi again, since it looks like you're not around at the moment, I'm requesting a move review for this. Thanks! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:24, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Move review for Grafing knife attack
An editor has asked for a Move review of Grafing knife attack. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:24, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies, i've been in the process of relocating my home and I didn't see this. I would endorse relisting this, but since it's at MR i'm not sure I should close and do it.  I will comment there and allow someone else to do the relist. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 01:44, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dane, and no need to apologise... Real life happens sometimes! Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 05:03, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:48, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


Hello ,

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important. Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR. The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever. NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so  you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations. Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for  the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging. Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway. School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * QUALITY of REVIEWING
 * Backlog
 * Move to draft
 * Notifying users
 * PERM
 * Other news

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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Repurposed redirect
I have repurposed the redirect Antonina (name) that you accepted.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:25, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
 * Coordinator

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
 * Deletion tags

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
 * Paid editing


 * Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
 * Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent  enhancements to  the New Pages Feed and  features in the Curation  tool, and there are still more to  come. Due to the wealth  of information  now displayed by  ORES, reviewers are strongly  encouraged to  use the system now rather than Twinkle; it  will  also  correctly  populate the logs.
 * Not English
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
 * Tools

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.

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re visit deleted article
Hey Dane. I saw that you were one of the editors that deleted a page about me. I wanted to get your thoughts on looking at it again. I received a lot of press and don't know how to add it as i believe I'm not allowed to make my own article or edit it. So maybe you can add to it. And please forgive my ignorance as i don't know how to private message on this if i am doing it wrong. Thanks for your help! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Marshall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calcaliente (talk • contribs) 20:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I recommend reading the general notability guideline. It looks like the article was deleted again before I read it. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 20:31, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

@dane Yes it looks as if it was. I read the notability guidelines and i feel as if i do qualify. What steps can i take to have you look over the information. I have over 10 articles from NBC,Forbes etc from real contributors and even got verified on instagram. Is there a way i can send you my info for you to write a page for me? I read through your edits on wikipedia and the way you speak seems like you are pretty logical and unbiased in the way you review things. So want you to look at it objectively and feel you would give me a honest answer in whether it qualifies or not! Thanks so much for your help!

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

editToken
Hello Dane,

Your script User:Dane/orcp.js is no longer functional because it attempts to get an  from. The script should instead get a. s were removed from  on October 3, 2019 at Phabricator during this edit as they were redundant to  s. –  Brandon XLF  (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! I updated the token to the  in the script.  I appreciate the explanation/help with that. --  Dane  <b style="color: #00AC1D;">talk </b> 05:35, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course