User talk:Juliancolton/Archive 15

GA review review?
Hi there - I saw you listed at Good article nominations/Mentors and wondered if you could help me out. I've completed my first GA review over at Themistocles, and the article looks good to me; I'd just like someone else to give my review a once-over to check I've done an acceptable job. It doesn't seem to be a contentious article, I just need someone to confirm I haven't thrown due process to the wind. If you have a second I'd very much appreciate your looking it over. Many thanks. Gonzonoir (talk) 16:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

A bit of Third Party help
Hello Juliancolton. I am a self proclaimed vandalism fighter who is hopefully helping the project. However, today I made a series of reverts on the article Michael Riconosciuto (you can see the reverts here and here. This, however, seems to have upset the user who made the original edits. The person left me a message on my talk page which I attempted to reply to. They also reverted by reverts which prompted me to leave an additional message on their talk page. However, it seems this is quickly becoming an uncivil discussion and so I am not sure I would like to continue with it, even though I think it's important to remove the offending edits on the article. I may very well be in the wrong and I am more than willing to admit to a mistake if I should not have reverted these edits. Would you be willing or mind giving a look into this situation? I have seen your efforts on the project and you always seem to be quick, fair and equitable. Any help would be great. TimonyCrickets (talk) 21:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Juliancolton for your input into this matter. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to look into it! Many thanks and let me know if I can ever help you out in any way.TimonyCrickets (talk) 02:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have another quick question for you! I am so sorry to both you and thanks for all the help. I have been watching a page Unica Corporation which seems to fall into the db-spam realm of things. I have put the db-spam tag onto the page using twinkle and it places a notice on the page of the creator and such. Anyway, two editors seem to just remove the tag every time I put it on. I have put it on twice but I don't want to break the three revert rule thing by putting it back a third time, and honestly I don't think that will help anyway since they will just edit it back off in that situation. Do you have any suggestions for properly handling this situation? What do you do when someone just removes or reverts a candidate for speedy deletion tag instead of following the proper procedure? TimonyCrickets (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

RfP
Hi its Ammel. I noticed that you put Done and Not Done on 2 RfP's. Mine was right below User:Squirrel684's but you didnt grant or deny permissions. Could you do that? Thanks Amlnet49 30-03-2009 It's Done Amlnet49 (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

UAA
Julian, you've got a good feel for UAA. See User talk:Transformationalarts; I run across promotional usernames regularly when I'm covering the db-spam queue. If someone has written an article so over-the-top that it merits deletion as db-spam, and if they have a username that is unmistakably a reference to the business or organization they were promoting, would I be out of line to do the blocking myself, or would it be better to report it to UAA and let someone else do it? Or, should I report it, and then respond to my own report and block in clear cases? (Watchlisting) - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 15:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Please take a look...
...at this MfD. Also check my deletion log; the page was deleted three times under three different names. I am soliciting the opinion of others as well. Thanks! Frank |  talk  15:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Case closed. Frank  |  talk  16:00, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikicup
In the interest of fostering friendly competition:

Mwahahah! You are doomed! =P Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 16:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

borakphoto
hi, pls help me to put borakphoto in wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dethones (talk • contribs) 21:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thx for Rollback!
Woa! That was fast! Was that automatic?? Phoenix of9 (talk) 21:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * hehe cool, thx... Phoenix of9 (talk) 21:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Please look
See User_talk:The_Rambling_Man  — Rlevse • Talk  • 22:13, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

CSD G7
Hey I see that you restored the page which I requested for Speedy Deletion per G7, with the reason being that other editors have contributed to the page. I have to dissent. While other people have edited that page, those edits were only minor things such as additions of categories. Thus, I am the only contributor who has substantially edited that page, and thus CSD G7 still applies. Thus, the userbox should be deleted.

I hope this clears things out, thank you very much!  Marlith  (Talk)   23:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hm... I see... well, thanks anyway. I was just afraid that the template itself might be perceived as uncivil to some, that's why I wanted it to be deleted in the first place. Thanks for the help  Marlith  (Talk)   01:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Input request
Need another opinion on deciding deletion or merger of this. Discussion here. Judicatus | Talk | Contributions 06:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Kevan Shaw & Deja Chan
You duplicated the relistings for these AFDs which caused two lines with the relisting message to appear and a duplicate entry in the log as well. I removed the duplicate log entries, but you might want to check to see what caused this to begin with. - Mgm|(talk) 09:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

For granting rollback.
--Adam in MO Talk 13:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Helo needed regarding deletation of article
I need help in regards to the article regarding 'Persians' I feel that the article does not meet wikipedias standards in regards to neutral point o view, fair representation and reliable sources.

Persians are Iran’s single largest ethnic group, yet the article try to dismiss the Persian ethnicity as non-existent and replace is with a vague concept of 'Persian identity'. It is sanitized form of denying the existence of Persians as distinct ethnic group to further political motives; The Article is extremely biased and is written with a political agenda by separatists and political activists hostile to Persian people.

The article further contains factually wrong statements that equals Persian people with 'Tajiks' who are of a different ethnicity but speak Persian accent (Dari). The 'sources’ are of political origin that accuse Persians of racism and chauvinism.

It is a huge insult to me is of Persian ancestry that Wikipedia allows this to happen. Every other demographical group in Iran is represented by a racial-definition except Persians. It is very easy to conform that We do exist as a distinct ethnic group, The CIA factbook lists Persians as the ethnic majority in Iran.

They have redirected the search word from the neutral article 'Persian people' to a political constructed article called 'Persian identity.

How do I fix this? I have very limited knowledge about how wikipedia works. The whole article must be deleted and the word Persian redirected to the article that used to be before it. But this is hard to do as they appear to be organized.

--

I am referring to the article that appears when you search on 'Persian people' I don't know how to clarify this further, do articles have any code or other forms of ID.

Danz23 (talk) 16:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

--- Thanks a lot for your feedback!

They will probably never agree with me, what does it take to restore the right article back? Who decides that, what does it require? Should I start my own article and them redirect the pages? What is required for deleting that article, who must I convince? Should I analyse the article and disprove its assumptions? Where should I present my objection?

Should I answer on my own discussion page or yours?

Sorry if I am sounding disoriented.

Danz23 (talk) 17:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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Yo!
APRIL FOOL'S!!!!!! :P Happy April Fool's Day, Julian! :D Dylan620 : Chat  00:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Endorse indefinite ban. Juliancolton : Chat  00:55, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Endose per IRC canvassing. (He has my mother). iMatthew : Chat  00:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Endorse per OVER 9000! Until It Sleeps : Chat  00:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Endorse SALT and PEPPER -- Chzz : Chat  01:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Garnish with radishes Jake Wartenberg :  Chat  02:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong endorse... oh wait, I'm banned too. Darn it. Hersfold : Chat  04:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree Too efficient. This is a real problem. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 04:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Request
If it's OK with you, could you please restore the phony RFA and move it to April fools/April Fools' Day 2009/Juliancolton alternative, so that it is viewable in the future. It's always fun to look back on things. :) –Drilnoth (T • C) 02:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
–Drilnoth (T • C) 02:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Juliancolton's Day!
Note: This is the special April Fools' Edition! Thanks for all the fun and silly times we had.
 * Congrats! Jake Wartenberg :  Chat  03:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh. I guess that means I'm an April Fool. – Juliancolton  | Talk 03:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ouch. Prolly worth a block. Ever blocked a crat before? Never too early! ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 03:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy April Fool's Day
Happy April Fool's!!! :P - Fastily (talk) 03:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Date autoformatting poll
Hi there, I noticed that like me, you are opposed to any form of dates autoformatting. I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:39, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

afd closings
Julian,unless the clock on your computer is screwed up, you are consistently closing afds about 12 hours early. Not a major sin, but it forecloses it for those of your colleagues who do want to wait the statutory 120 hours. :) DGG (talk) 08:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

seavus deletion
hi , i red about this deletion, it was conflict ,

i waned to know is thee any way that we can get back the article in wikipedia in order to edit it and put it back ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pedram.king (talk • contribs) 09:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Your support is required...
My Minion-

I require your support in my current bid for absolute power over the Wiki. As your Glorious God-Emperor and Editor-in-Chief, I expect a favorable vote from you during this vital process. Thank you. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd just like to announce...
...that I love you all. Super srs. Glass  Cobra  13:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Your support is required...
My Minion-

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Technical question for you…
How are you able to get the custom edit header for your talk page? I'm curious… — Bellhalla (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * How cool. Thanks! — Bellhalla (talk) 21:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Username
Hi Julian,

I chose this name because it is what I have used on various other boards on the internet. It's an obscure reference to a particular video game, and I hadn't considered if others would find it offensive. I wouldn't image the name being any worst than what you'd hear on television or the radio even, and I'm not a fan of censorship to prevent people from being offended. However, if you still believe it's not in accordance with the user name policy, I will change it to something else.

Thanks, Justin

Bastard Fish (talk) 21:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bastard Fish (talk • contribs) 21:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

comments made at Jimbo's talk page
Wikipedia editors spend 24 hours on Wikipedia messing up pages, which could be better spent editing productively and then they do not clean up. Why does Wikipedia allow for April Fool's jokes?! I still don't get it. Griffinofwales (talk) 23:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Requesting feedback
As you might know, we've crossed paths several times in the last few months, usually when it comes to UAA and CSD. I've stepped out of my wiki-comfort zone and gotten myself (unintentionally) involved in a dispute at Piedmont High School (California). I'd like an opinion on how I've handled the dispute as an editor who might (emphasis on might) someday be interested in becoming an admin. Any feedback would be appreciated. KuyaBriBri Talk 19:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Question
I'm coming to you because you help me out and I like to know. Why, Is it that people only talk to me wean I do something wrong.

So far, I Created 6 articles and none of them have been deleted and I have improve 44 articles and I help block 40 IP's and Users. I also revert vandalism and patrol new pages. No one has told me what a good job I have done on Wikipedia. I guess.. I just need to be motivated. --Michael (talk) 20:22, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow.. Thank you for The Editor's Barnstar".--Michael (talk) 20:55, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

E-mail
Hello, Julian.

Are you reachable by e-mail? If so, and you want to keep the address private, can you e-mail me?

Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 22:03, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Proposed naming of Oprah Winfrey to Barack Obama's senate seat
Hello, Julian. I have proposed that Proposed naming of Oprah Winfrey to Barack Obama's senate seat be merged into Rod Blagojevich controversies or Rod Blagojevich. Please see the talk page to discuss the issue. Thank you. The above is not a templated message and was personally written by me.  Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 00:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

TFA
Hey Julian, I'm not very familiar with the procedures at TFA requests. Perhaps you could take a look at my sandbox where I started a proposal and let me know if it looks alright. Thanks a lot,  Grsz 11  02:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

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Outline of knowledge WikiProject update - 04/02/2009
Hi everyone.

Things are going slow again. Where have you been?!

Maybe what you need to get you going is a little competition...

Who are we competing with?
Encyclopedia Britannica. Specifically, with its Outline of knowledge (presented in its volume called the Propaedia). Currently, they're kicking our asses. You've really got to check out their Outline of Knowledge (available only in the encyclopedia's paper edition - not the online version).

Portals. Informally, of course, just for the fun of it. There are around 600 portals. We're about 100 behind them, with about 500 outlines. Let's blow past them and leave 'em in the dust!

Confusion in editors at large
Now that the country outlines have been moved to the encyclopedia proper (article space), recruiting help on these is of high priority -- it will soon be time to alert all relevant editors to the nature and function of these and how they relate to other country coverage on Wikipedia.

However, I've noticed instances in which editors do not understand the nature and function of outline pages, and complain that they are redundant to articles. Well, ya. (That's the point of an outline - to provide the essentials in a structure for greater understanding, for easy viewing and faster reading, and to provide a topical guide).

A few editors over the years have viewed outlines as redundant to portals, not understanding the purpose and scope of outlines, nor the benefits provided by their structure and standardization.

These problems of misunderstanding need to be solved before "going public", to prevent their expansion as the community's awareness of these pages increases. Consider the response we'd get now if we announced these pages on the talk pages of 500 WikiProjects, 500 article talk pages, and placed links in 500 see also sections, etc.

That could be a nightmare.

So...

Encyclopedic and administrative support
I've been working on a couple things that will help alleviate confusion and hopefully reduce the need for editors to ask questions and seek advice. They're drafts, still under construction. Please look these over and jump in and help complete them (directly or by providing feedback):

First is an Outline article draft, intended to replace the current Outline article.

Next is a guideline on the Outline of knowledge and its outline pages.

Let me know what you think. Do they help you understand outlines better and how to develop them on Wikipedia? What is missing? How can they be improved?

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   04:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

your call
well .. that's why we pay you the big bucks. Cause you have to make the tough decisions ... lol ;) I couldn't find a user name "emos", just a style of music. — Ched :  Yes?   : ©  14:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Username
Hi, I sorry if Im wrong but I had an account that was deleted because of the user name (fukuemos). On the channel page it said that this is where I should go to dispute it. I dont want to dispute it I would like to let you know that I have created a new account. my user name is slateglass. Is this ok with you?. I didnt realise the rules and things were on here and people enforce them. Anyway if I am wrong Im sorry for wasting your time. This thread kind of sounds like your talking about it. So I think im right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slateglass (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandal
Hey buddy! Leave vandals alone, please. Vandalism is just good, clean fun that makes sure the masses think for themselves. Otherwise they could sit back and let a choice few do all the thinking and research for them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.176.13.22 (talk) 17:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Vandalism is bad, unconstructive, and a waste of time. If you want to contribute, please create an account. Thank you. - Raziel Tea-time  17:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

NO! =D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.176.13.22 (talk) 17:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

On the verge of vandalism
Based on these edits by this user, I would seriously start considering a block (after another bad-faith edit). This is getting out of hand. He seems to think lack of sources is reason to change "hamlet" to "town" in NY articles (against consensus) and his behavior at Siena talk was not great. Mind commenting? ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 18:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Otisjimmy1
Thanks. otisjimmy1 (talk) 19:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Advertising the outlines
We'll be advertising them extensively, and placing links to them wherever appropriate.

But, if we did this now, there could be a lot of confusion - because lots of people do not know what outlines are or what they are for (see User talk:The Transhumanist/Archive 21 and Talk:Outline of Oregon. And some of those who don't know suggest that the outlines should be deleted or merged with portals, etc.

There are also those who don't believe these are outlines, because the outlines' formatting doesn't fit their stereotypical view of outlines. For example, some people think that the numbering in outlines is mandatory. (It's not. The key element is hierarchical structure). We've lost one outline (well, just its name - see Talk:List of opera topics) due to this already.

Good explanatory material (the article and guidelines) will help prevent ignorance and opposition by addressing all of the relevant issues.

Thank you for the feedback and for your question.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   20:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
–Drilnoth (T • C) 20:52, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Question
Would a username with "puppet" in it (alluding to sock puppet be against policy? Because I'm currently dealing with an ACC request that has that phrase. --Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign) 21:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Not unless there is something else suspicious about it. Prodego  talk 21:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Bruce Dickinson discography
I fixed all the errors you found on the page, could you please take another look and give your opinion.  Rockk3r      Spit it Out!  23:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

An ounce of help?
I'm proud to say that I intend on substantially working on an article for the first time in over 4 months, located at User:Dylan620/Sandbox/Timeline of the 1996 Atlantic hurricane season. However, I could use your help. I'm far from being considered a "code expert," so I was wondering if you could help me create a timeline graph, like the one in my previous effort from some time ago. Thanks! On the other hand... --Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign) 12:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Take another look...
Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 2007–08 South Pacific cyclone season/archive2 – I'm still hesitant about supporting. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

En dashes in compound adjectives
In response to your reversion of Index of Trinidad and Tobago-related articles, compound adjectives in which one part of the compound is two or more spaced words can be connected by an en dash instead of a hyphen. See the Wikipedia page here: Dash, which is supported by two references, and I've read it in other places too. It also makes logical sense to me. "Trinidad and Tobago" is one spaced entity so if you use it in a compound modifier/adjective like Index of Trinidad and Tobago-related articles it makes sense to join the compound adjective with an en dash to convey that the whole phrase is part of the compound. LonelyMarble (talk) 16:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't like it, but yes, some people do favour it. Why not simplify it: "Index of articles related to Trinidad and Tobago"? So much smoother, and the problem has gone. Tony   (talk)  17:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Main reason is to stay consistent with all the other index or list articles related to countries. User:The Transhumanist is the main user that has organized and started these articles and the outlines, I just try to add them to see also sections and make sure the name is correct. En dashes in compound adjectives are a little odd but I think it's better than using the alternative because with just the one hyphen it looks like Tobago-related is the whole compound adjective, an alternative would be Trinidad-and-Tobago-related but that doesn't work because you don't want to break up the country entity with hyphens. The only thing left to do really is use an en dash instead, which looks fine to me and helps convey the meaning better I think. I don't really care about moving it to your alternative name, I just wouldn't want to do it unless every index/list article is moved too for consistency, so I rather just use the en dash. LonelyMarble (talk) 17:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Do either of you guys mind if I continue to move the index/list articles with a spaced country to the en dash? I have done it to other countries, not just this one Trinidad and Tobago article. I'm just wondering if you guys mind if I continue or not. LonelyMarble (talk) 18:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: ANI
I said that sort of tongue in cheek, so I'm sorry if I caused unnecessary offense. In any case, length isn't exactly a criterion for blocking solely based on username, and that criterion has disappeared off WP:U for quite a while. — kur  ykh   18:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Uw-rollbackremoved
Template:Uw-rollbackremoved has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. -- IRP ☎ 00:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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Crat
Well...at least there's one for ya :P And the crow outside is crawing to the tune of the shower scene of Psycho o_0 Cheers.  I 'mperator 13:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Admin coaching
I think you've forgotten about it. Did you not see the previous times I pointed it out in my messages? :P I'd like to receive lessons on WP:UAA and WP:AIV next. --Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign) 13:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This seems more like adoption, no? iMatthew : Chat  13:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Email
Hey, I noticed your email was disabled (and administrators are required to have email enabled), so you may want to address that. Regardless, I sent you an email a few days ago, and noticed you didn't respond. Please check, thanks. :)  TheAE  talk / sign  04:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it works now. I have sent another email, so check again. :)  TheAE  talk / sign  05:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ Replied again.  TheAE  talk / sign  21:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

USNA alum topic
Input appreciated here: Featured_topic_candidates  — Rlevse • Talk  • 19:34, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XI
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America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12
Could you please semi-protect of America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12 indefinitely for six weeks? The last protection was expired few minutes ago. Some IP users could editing false "spoilers/speculation". See log here. ApprenticeFan talk  contribs 00:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Outline of knowledge WikiProject update - 04/06/2009
As the country outlines have been approaching completion and more attention has been given to the non-country outlines and the Outline of knowledge as a whole, I've run into this...

Topic lists
As you know, we've been cleaning up sets of pages the links of which are displayed on the outlines.

One of the most prominent of the sets presented are the "List of x topics" (including "List of x-related topics) pages, and they are in a sorry state.

There's actually 2 different kinds mixed together in the same set: most of them are alphabetical indexes.

The others are non-alphabetical hierarchical lists. That is...

outlines!

So, I've been renaming the indexes to "Index of x articles" or "Index of x-related articles", and wikifying them (especially their lead sections). So far, all the country-related topics lists that are indexes have been renamed. It appears the new name fits so well that nobody favors the old name over the new. It's been over a week since that was done, with no complaints, so I've started on the rest.

As for the topic lists that are outlines, those can be absorbed or merged into the OOK. Even though this would entail a lot of renaming and reformatting, and cutting and pasting, these pages might still save us some work! I'm not sure how many there are, but that should become clear once the index pages are all renamed.

Feel free to join in and help. It's hog's heaven!

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   04:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Long time no see!
I've been lurking, waiting for the inspiration of the next hurricane season. Just wanted to point out a recent vandalism spree that I came across. Looks like no one else had noticed it, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. You (or one of your talk-page-stalkers) will be better able to keep an eye on him than I will.

Hope the adminning is going well, and I'll be seeing you more over the next few months.  Plasticup  T / C  19:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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Wow!
That was quick! Thanks for the rollback permissions. :)  Lychosis  T / C  23:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bug you, I just have a question about using rollback. Is it frowned upon to use it to undo a single vandalism edit?  Thanks in advance for the help!  Lychosis   T / C  23:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, that is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged. Just make sure you use it for reverting vandalism (or your own edits) only, and you should be fine. NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 23:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :D  Lychosis   T / C  23:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Project update
Thanks for the update. I just read a bit of User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge, and it's proven quite useful so far. I'm sure I'll be able to use it to my advantage in the future.

Also, I think it might actually be a good idea to advertise the outlines, so the redlinks turn blue. Thoughts? – Juliancolton  | Talk 13:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, this looks really great. I've come up with two suggestions: One thing that might be really useful is advertising the "Outline of Knowledge" in Infobox Country (or whatever template is used). Another would be to figure out how to expand the lead without bloating it too much. The simple one-sentence lead is too short, but four paragraphs for an outline would be excessive. NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 18:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * In a thread above (on my talk page), Penubag wondered if outlines could be made for medicine and physics. I pointed out that those already existed, and he replied: "I think we should make the outlines more visible in the article. The current outlines are buried all the way down in the See Also sections. It would be nice if they appeared at the beginning of the article like the hat notes. (I didn't even know we had outlines for those)."


 * Hatnotes would be the perfect place to mention these, because they are topical guides (tables of contents) for their respective subjects.


 * Anyone want to help with this?


 *  Th e Tr ans hu man ist   03:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll help. – Juliancolton  | Talk 13:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion: The Collective (Ayn Rand)
This is just to invite you to take a second look at the "keep" decision you announced. I understand that Wikipedia works by consensus rather than by simple counting of votes, but of the four votes to "keep", one was based on the arguably irrelevant reason that there were problems with the article with which it might be merged; it was not a vote to keep on its merits. Otherwise, votes to merge outnumbered votes to keep two to one. I am curious how you arrived at the decision.KD Tries Again (talk) 03:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)KD Tries Again

Re:UAA
Thanks for your advice. I will remember that in the future. GT5162 (我的对话页) 13:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, good luck with your request for global rollback, even if if doesn't succeed. I would support you, but I only started monitoring #cvn-sw a few days ago, so my vote wouldn't be worth much. GT5162 (我的对话页) 13:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

HI, JULIAN
As for the ado about my username, please be advised that I am not authorized to change my username as this is the primary username that was established and the name that was agreed to on February 5, 2009 when I was unbanned; see "Unban proposal for Rms125a@hotmail.com" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive512#Unban_proposal_for_Rms125a.40hotmail.com_.2F_User:Robert_Sieger.

You can also contact User:Alison, User:Durova or User:Eliz81 for more on that. This username has been grandfathered in, at least according to the colloquy below during the last unbanning discussion during the same proposal at the link I provided.

Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 14:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Crat
Very funny :) Kennedy  ( talk ) 20:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Not at all! Especially as I can now spell it correctly! :P Kennedy  ( talk ) 21:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

University class project article on Simple
Hi. The article MS PDA business strategy was a university class project. It was input by User:Msgp4, deleted at AfD here, and I explained to him here on his talk page why Wikipedia wasn't a web host for his project. Today it was re-created, with two different capitalisations; both have been db-g4-d, after cries of "this is our project under peer review, please leave it till the end of April", and trouble with an IP removing the db tags. My reason for telling you all this is that just before it was zapped I saw a link which showed he had input it to Simple. I don't now how tolerant people are there of this sort of thing, but I thought I would give you a heads-up. Apart from anything else, I'm not sure how simple its English is! Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I didn't offer them userfication because it was never going to be an encyclopedia article, it included details of their members and their progress and plans - they had just decided they wanted "a wiki" for their project and picked on us. I see Simple have deleted it too. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That was fast!
Featured article candidates/History of the Han Dynasty, you stalking me or something?! :) Dabomb87 (talk) 00:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Since we're at it, can you also delete ? Dabomb87 (talk) 00:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm about to go through Featured article candidates/Archived nominations/April 2009 and fix the numbering for future nominations. Want to follow along? Dabomb87 (talk) 01:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your help. I'm going to go through the article histories next. Also, can you take care of Featured article candidates/Hue chemical attacks? That's a messy one. The current FAC needs to be moved to archive2, and the previous failed one goes to archive1. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's another: Featured article candidates/Terri Schiavo case/archive1. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No more moving, just the above link needs to be deleted. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Last one to delete for today (I promise!) . Dabomb87 (talk) 03:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) I like having my own (ad)minion :D Dabomb87 (talk) 03:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Your ER
Hey Julian, your ER has been open past the 30 day time limit, do you wish to keep it open any longer? If not, I need to archive it.-- T ru  c o   02:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

New hatnote based on Penubag's suggestion (look at it in the edit window)

 * For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of whatever

It is the template Topical guide.

I hope the comment works to protect the hatnote. Suggestions welcome.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   03:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

What do you think?
I was just doing some reading up on the GFDL and found that the 1.3 version has its own article which quotes the thing verbatim. While this is legal, this is not what Wikipedia is. I considered bringing this to AfD, but am unsure if it's prudent to do so. What if the contents were cleared, a redirect was made to GFDL (GFDL 1.2 was already a redirect to GFDL so I made GFDL 1.1 and GFDL 1.0 redirects as well), and a Wikisource article was created for it instead? ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 06:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOT
Could you please unprotect the page. Most participants are discussing as well as editing and I think protecting the page will stifle efforts to find a consensus. There's not a real edit war brewing from where I am sitting. Hiding T 14:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nobody has breached 3RR, almost every change has been discussed on the talk page and it is not an edit war. The page is being tweaked in line with policy. The only person plain reverting is User:Jc37, everybody else is discussing on the talk page and trying different changes each time they edit. That's part of our policy on creating consensus, and protecting the page is not conducive to that. Can I ask you to review WP:CONSENSUS, especially "Consensus as a result of the editing process" and File:Consensus Flowchart.svg.  We're trying to improve the text communally. We are not repeatedly reverting each others contributions, we're amending them.  There's a difference.  Please consider unprotecting the page, otherwise I truly believe progress will be stifled. Hiding T 14:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Further to that, check the block logs of all involved. Okay, I'm going to fall down on dreamguy, but we're stand-up editors.  And that debate on the talk page is anything but heated, which I would expect to see in an edit war. Hiding T 14:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm involved, I can't unprotect it. That's why I am asking. I'll take it to AN then. Hiding T 14:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was a little churlish, I could have phrased that more as a query to take it to AN. Sorry.  Anyway, I've tried to be as balanced as possible with Administrators'_noticeboard. Please feel free to add or expand. Cheers, Hiding T 14:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'll probably get pointed to some sub-page involving unprotection, the existence of which I've long since forgotten.  I'm happy enough to take a backseat now and respect whatever consensus emerges. I'm off now anyway. Hiding T 15:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * We are ready to amend the policy with the following text:

Plot summaries. The coverage of a fictional work should not be a mere plot summary. A summary should facilitate coverage of the work's real-world development, reception, and significance.
 * Please unprotect the page. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 06:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Green Lantern (movie)
Hello,

why did you delete the Green Lantern Movie page? The movie is officially announced, with a director and a script...Shooting will start in September of this year and it will be released in December 2010. They began pre-production and are casting right now. What more confirmation do you want? This movie is official, so there was no reaso to delete this page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.230.249.12 (talk) 17:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Another image deletion spree...

 * File:Cadmium chloride crystal.jpg
 * File:CIExy1931 AdobeWGRGB.png
 * File:BullsEyeLevel.gif
 * File:Bryantandmaymelbourne.jpg
 * File:Brodie Castle.jpg
 * File:Brigitte Boisselier.jpg
 * File:Big Sur north of Monterey.jpg


 * File:CNH101 Dashanzi.jpg
 * File:CSC2.jpg
 * File:Canada 39 bg 061904.jpg
 * File:CarrowkeelIreland.jpg
 * File:Carrowmore tomb, Ireland.jpg
 * File:Castle Hohenklingen.jpg
 * File:Cathedralofourladyofpeacebelltower.jpg

More:


 * File:Billa Himbergerstraße.JPG
 * File:Brama Flor.JPG
 * File:BundAtNight.JPG
 * File:Café Prückel.JPG
 * File:Catfish 1.jpg
 * File:CayugaLake.jpg
 * File:CedarCreekLakeHabitatImprovementStructure.jpg


 * File:CNR.jpg
 * File:CPR 8909, a Canadian Locomotive Company H-24-66 Train Master.JPG
 * File:Canada 19 bg 061904.jpg
 * File:Café Westend May 2005.JPG
 * File:CavendishExperiment TorsionFiber.gif
 * File:Cedar Creek Lake-KY 1770 Bank Access.jpg

More :-)


 * File:Balsall Common.jpg
 * File:Bench at Grave of Gertrude Ederle 1024.jpg
 * File:Bestbuystore.jpg


 * File:Ben Grauer marker 800.jpg
 * File:Ben banneker.jpg
 * File:Bombyliid 7294.jpg

Oh and when you find some time..? ty :-) ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 05:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

spork
I recently realized that there are about five people using User:Plastikspork/monobook.js/script.js, or at least five people who have added it to monobook.js. So, I would like to try to get some feedback to help make it more useful for your needs.

1 Have you noticed it performing any unsafe transformations?

2 Are there too many spork buttons?

3 Which spork buttons to you use?

4 Are there any spork buttons which you never use?

5 Are there any transformations which you wish to have in a script like this one, but are currently missing?

6 Are there any spork buttons which should be split or merged?

7 Any other comments or suggestions?

Thanks for your feedback! Plastikspork (talk) 19:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Ali_bubba
IMO, it should be speedy deleted as a hoax instead of letting the AfD run until the end.  Enigma  msg 20:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. By the way, this seems to be an unlikely and unnecessary redirect.  Enigma  msg 20:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Help on Sockpuppet investigations
I been looking at the User creation log today and I was wondering if it tells me,
 * For example,
 * 10:40, April 8, 2009 Example_1 created new account User:example5621a

And both user accounts have contributions. Are these Sock puppets.--Michael (talk) 20:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, How do I use the CheckUser tool or can i use it? --Michael (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank You, for your help. Talk to you later--Michael (talk) 20:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

FLC nominations and reviews
Hi, Julian. You may not be aware, but the new Featured list criteria was implemented Sunday 5 April, 00:56 (UTC) following two weeks of discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured list criteria.

I've gone through the nominations and have noticed you have !voted Support, Oppose or Neutral at the following nominations:
 * 1) Featured list candidates/Michael Faraday Prize/archive1 (Michael Faraday Prize)
 * 2) Featured list candidates/Timeline of the 2007–08 South Pacific cyclone season/archive2 (Timeline of the 2007–08 South Pacific cyclone season)

Additionally, the following nominations have received reviews from you, but no indication whether or not you support or oppose their promotion to WP:FL; if you could revisit these too, that would be much appreciated as the nomination will not have to be kept open any longer than necessary. Finally, please accept my apologies for the brusqueness of this message; the same wording is being sent to everyone who has outstanding reviews, with only the names of lists being changed. Regards, Matthewedwards : Chat  04:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Featured list candidates/Paulini Curuenavuli discography/archive2 (Paulini Curuenavuli discography)
 * 2) Featured list candidates/List of Dexter episodes/archive1 (List of Dexter episodes)
 * 3) Featured list candidates/List of Silver Slugger Award winners at third base/archive1 (List of Silver Slugger Award winners at third base)

Request for restoration of 'List of CZW Events' page
Hi there,

I am enquiring as to the possiblity of restoring the page 'List of CZW Events' which I found has recently been deleted. It is a page that I have been using regularly to log my DVD/Videotape collection, and without it I'm now lost trying to index these titles. This was a one-of-a-kind page with the list of events in chronological order, with dates and show names. I hope you can help with this matter.

Regards

81.157.114.131 (talk) 14:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)Bryan McKellar81.157.114.131 (talk) 14:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Alternative account redirect
I have fixed the redirect between your alternate account and this one. A bot changed it a few months ago to avoid a double redirect when you made your user page redirect to your talk page. GT5162 (我的对话页) 14:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

E-mail
Hi Juliancolton, I've sent you an E-mail. Best wishes. Acalamari 17:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Aitias
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Aitias/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Aitias/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, [[Sam Korn ]] (smoddy) 22:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Quick question
Hi! I noticed you around while reverting vandalism, and since you are an administrator, would you mind reviewing my request for rollback? Thank you for your time. Knight of the Wind (talk) 03:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine. My browser actually started working for once too, so I should be fine for now. Have a great day! Knight of the Wind (talk) 03:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Trash (manga)
You closed the AfD discussion for Trash (manga) with "The result was keep. Or redirect." However, keeping and redirecting are basically opposite decisions, since if it is redirected, then all the content will be removed (though the content will still be present in the history of the article). I think you should have either decided that the consensus leaned one way or the other, or relisted it for further discussion, or at least closed it as "no consensus". Calathan (talk) 03:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, when I voted to redirect, I didn't want anything merged into the other article. I meant to delete the article in question, but then place a redirect in its place instead.  I understand that if people wanted the content to be merged, that should be discussed elsewhere, though I don't think anyone in this discussion wanted that.  I think everyone was either in favor of keeping the article, or in favor of deleting it, with some of the people wanting it deleted suggesting that a redirect should be left in its place.  Anyway, someone else has changed the article to a redirect, which I think is a fine result.  I'm not complaining about what happened to the article in the end, but I just think that you should have given more guidance in closing it.  I still think that you agreed with two basically opposite opinions. Calathan (talk) 03:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Drama
Hi Julian, the drama on the tropical cyclone project talk page gets worse and worse. Jason Rees said this while responding to my post. What should I do about it? Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home, User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 04:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Question
What script is this?-- T ru  c o   15:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That looks like it was from User:Plastikspork/monobook.js/script.js using the 'Spork: WS/Repair' button. Plastikspork (talk) 16:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's exactly it. Thanks! – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh okay, thanks.-- T ru  c o   17:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But how do you run it?-- T ru  c o   17:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You paste importScript('User:Plastikspork/monobook.js/script.js'); into your User:Truco/monobook.js, and it will show up as a bunch of Spork buttons in your 'toolbox' on the left side of the screen when you are editing a page. I can explain more about how it works, but basically it runs a bunch of regular expression search/replace strings then shows you the diff. Plastikspork (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Plastikspork, does this work instead of, or beside Lightmouse's script? Matthewedwards : Chat  06:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Adminship question
I generally would have asked this question to Tiptoety, but since you are online, I want to ask you whether you think I will be a good candidate for adminship or not. Yes, I am a relatively new user (only four months), but I have been editing WP since August last. Please check my contribs and tell me whether I will be a good candidate for adminship and what areas to improve in. Pmlinediter (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Please can you tell me approximately how many edits I require? Not an exact value, just an approximate. Thanks. Pmlinediter (talk) 14:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Pmlinediter (talk) 14:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)



, Pmlinediter has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Question
Hi Juliancolton, I was just having a look at your current evidence. Can I suggest this edit for the RfR dispute over Jpoelma13? It shows the entire discussion that took place. Just a thought anyway, not a criticism over what you have provided. Thanks. Acalamari 17:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Email
Hello Julian. I was wondering if you'd considered what I emailed you about at all? Thanks. :)  TheAE  talk / sign  18:22, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, okay. :)  TheAE  talk / sign  18:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

importancecol
Can you move the protection template to the foot of the code, within the existing noinclude tags? The change seems to have had an adverse effect on the template. Cheers! PC78 (talk) 02:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I need help ASP
A user on Talk:Highway Requested a split for "Highway systems by country" and I Created a Sub-article (List of highway systems by country) and now User:Synchronism Reverted my edits 3 times. What do I do? All I was doing is trying to help this article out. Can you go back and Revert it back to my Edit and tell this user to stop. Thank you.--  Michael  (Talk) 03:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the Help. By the way, Do you like my new signature?--  Michael  (Talk) 03:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Ok, Time to get back to work on Category:Articles to be split.. See, what happens next. I hope that user doesn't follow me and revert my edits. I am keeping a eye on that User. I will let you know if something else comes up.--  Michael  (Talk) 04:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Since you're my admin coach/adopter...
...I only think it's fair for me to let you know about my editor review at Editor review/Dylan620 (2). Cheers,  Dylan 620  Efforts · Toolbox 15:07, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Queen Hyde Park AFD
I was curious about your closure of this AFD nomination. There were only a few votes, and you closed it as no consensus. However, it seems to me that it would have been more appropriate to have relisted the debate to get more input, not just close it because not enough people had contributed. Closing a debate as no consensus should only happen after the debate has been exhausted, but consensus has still not been reached. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 19:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

AdjustShift RfA
Thanks for your note. Obviously I guess it was closed while I was still reading diffs and looking through contributions. My apologies. Dean B (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:A/Projects
Thank you, very much! I was actually quite surprised with how fast that went. -- A talk / contribs 21:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

IRC
You left quickly from the IRC channel. I don't think the WPTC should be focusing so much of its time on articles that didn't affect anyone, and which nobody looks at. That time adds up, from GA reviews to endless discussion of whether they should exist! The storm are already being covered in the season articles, so usually there is hardly any new content in an additional article. I only think a very select type of article should not exist, which is tropical storms that did not affect land. Otherwise, I'm usually fair game :) --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was going to write a long, rambling response, laden with uppercase bluelinks. Instead, I'll just point you to Titoxd's 3rd Law: "Telling others how to stop wasting their time is a good way to waste yours." :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What about Slowking Man's law? - As a debate over user conduct or article content continues, the probability of one user accusing another of being a deletionist approaches one. I am a mergist, not a deletionist! :P --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Closed AfD.
You recently closed an AfD for Articles for deletion/Greece-Nepal relations. However, it seems the article was moved during the discussion itself to Greece–Nepal relations according to the history. Can you please take a look and confirm if this is above board and/or delete the article per the discussion (again)? Thank you. -- BlueSquadron Raven  22:39, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Outline of knowledge project summary, and future direction
In response to a friend on Wikipedia who was wondering about how I've been and what I've been up to, I got to spewing about our little endeavor, and well, I got so carried away I pretty much told him everything. :) The message turned out to be a pretty good summary of what we've accomplished so far and the overall plan.

See User talk:The Rambling Man

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   23:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Gracias for the semi-protection. -- Ned Scott 02:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Unneccesary SPI
Hi Julian. For the vandalism to Ned Scott, I created an SPI here, unaware that all parties had been blocked (without block notices on relevant talk pages). As such it is unneccesary and I'm not sure how to close it. As an admin, can you do so. Thanks.  Oliver Fury, Esq. message  •  contributions  03:00, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, another admin (PeterSymonds) closed it. Thanks anyway.  Oliver Fury, Esq. message  •  contributions  03:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 08:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Question
Would this AfD qualify for a SNOW close? How does one judge when an AfD should be closed early? thanks,  Enigma  msg 21:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
In Articles for deletion/List of philosophical theories, the editor who created the nominated page mentioned that the material he used to create that list was previously AfD'd.

Therefore, the page is subject to speedy deletion (WP:G4).

Had I known this, I would have tagged it for speedy instead of nominating it for AfD. What should I do now? Withdraw the nom, and tag the article for speedy?

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   23:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, The Transhumanist, this discussion is different to the previous one. It also has differing opinions at present. Leaving this AfD to run its full course is best here. Thanks, Peter Symonds  ( talk ) 23:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

NPWatcher/Checkpage/Request
I was having a problem with adding my request for NPWatcher/Checkpage. I hope, I add my Request the right way now. I'm having a bad day. I am sorry about this--  Michael  (Talk) 23:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Nice pic
Looks like it was bright and sunny in the Empire state too - nice pic, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Kinzua Bridge
Glad you liked it. Being a meteorology major, I particularly enjoyed writing that section. -- D.B. talk • contribs 01:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Not me
I was home peering into my computer all day. It was Ruhrfisch and you who were photographing creeks. It looks like the leaves haven't come out yet along Jackson Creek. Brrrr! Finetooth (talk) 01:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's still pretty chilly up here, and the wind didn't help either. Ah well, Spring will hopefully arrive shortly. Anyway, good luck with Forest Park (Portland), which I see you've been working on! – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yes. Based on my limited experience, I'd say that no two FACs are the same and that it's impossible to predict how they will go. Finetooth (talk) 01:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Quite true. I'll try to review the FAC within the next few days. Cheers, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Georgia (U.S. state)
It seems we had a protection conflict. I protected it for a week, you for a month (I believe). If you want to revert it back to a month or change it to something else I'm cool with that. Icestorm815 •  Talk  03:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

My talk page protection
I have been notified of the request to have my talk page indef semi-protected. I would rely on more experienced editors' opinions on the necessity. Personally, I don't have a strong opinion either way. I do regret that frequent reverting of vandalism takes valuable time from volunteers' efforts (mine as well as others). I can see it's utility from that perspective. If page protection would cause more work, or if it would impair the efficiency of the project in some way, I would say don't worry about it. Let the good of the many rule.  Tide  rolls  04:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, that should cut down on some busy work. You granted my rollback, so I'm sure you'd let me know if there was anything I should change in my approach.  auf Wiedersehen  Tide  rolls  04:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Heads up...
I just assigned Robert Skyhawk 50 AWB tasks.

He might need your help. :)

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   05:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Contrexx
I'm not sure why the Contrexx article was deleted. The universal adaptability of Contrexx® is reflected by the fact that over 38’000 websites worldwide have already been produced. It's one of the most famous CMS Software in europe and is growing very fast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comvation (talk • contribs) 14:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Rollback
Just want to say thanks. I'll strive to be conservative with my use and use it only to revert clearly unproductive edits that break community guidelines, never for edit warring. Regards, --LK (talk) 15:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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Deletion of Dance Bear-a-Thon article
ProfessorLlama (talk) 20:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC) Hello! I'm ProfessorLlama, the original author of the article on Dance Bear-a-Thon. I saw the notice that it has been deleted, and read that the reason was essentially the concern that it was a promotional article rather than informative. Rest-assured, we had aimed to make it as encyclopedic as possible. I'm still relatively new to writing full Wikipedia articles, so I'm sure it wasn't as encyclopedic as desirable, but I would like to assert that we had tried to make it purely factual. The article in fact was based on the other articles relating to specific Dance Marathon events at other universities, all of which were written and set up in a similar manner to ours. I'd like it if you might reconsider and have the article put back, and for any changes you can suggest to make it better suited for Wikipedia, I'd be happy to make them. I'd love to get better at writing articles for Wikipedia. Please consider and let me know. Thank you for your time!

Protection
Hey JC, can you semi-protect 2009 WWE Draft until this Thursday? The event is tonight, and it continues on until Wednesday. Last year we had it protected to avoid IP mayhem. -- T ru  c o   20:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, right now there is nothing since its in 4 hours. But thanks for lending an eye.-- T ru  c o   21:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Potential RfA
I was considering an RfA, and was wondering what you thought of it. Any specific ways to improve would be much welcomed. Thanks,  Genius  101 Guestbook  21:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD trouble
Hi, I hope you can help me with this, I've just used twinkle to nominate FC Ansung for AfD, but it seems to have messed up along the line somewhere. There's a message on the FC Ansung edit page saying that the AfD result was keep. Any idea why or how that might happen? Thanks Stu.W UK (talk) 00:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

OK thanks for looking! It still says when I look at the edit page though. Weird. Stu.W UK (talk) 01:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

D'oh! thanks. Stu.W UK (talk) 01:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Weather, 80 mph Winds Here
Hay, How are you doing today? How the weather thare? I'm getting ready for high winds. I live in Ridgecrest, California and there saying the west winds will increase to 50 mph with gusts up to 80 mph this afternoon and tonight. See Here.. I thought you be interested.

The last time this happened, We had no power for 2 days.--  Michael  (Talk) 16:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Significant wind gusts since 1:00 AM PDT Wednesday...


 * Kern County, California peak wind gust
 * Arvin ... ... ... ...West 44 mph.
 * Bakersfield ... ... .Northwest 42 mph.
 * California City... ..West 77 mph.
 * Delano ... ... ... ..Northwest 46 mph.
 * Maricopa ... ... ... West 50 mph.
 * McFarland... ... ... Northwest 44 mph.
 * Ridgecrest... ... ...West 73 mph.
 * Shafter... ... ... ..Northwest 43 mph.
 * Taft ... ... ... ..... Northwest 42 mph.
 * Tehachapi... ... ... West 85 mph.
 * Wasco... ... ... ... Northwest 35 mph.

--  Michael  (Talk) 09:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Dance Bear-a-Thon
ProfessorLlama (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)Okay, awesome. Yes, if you wouldn't mind sending me the article, that would be great. Question, though: where should I go from there? Shall I simply review it and try to edit it based on Wikipedia standards, and then repost? Should I contact this other administrator? But, either way, I would like a copy, so thank you very much. And thanks for your hasty reply! : )

Late Thank You!
Took me a couple of days to notice, but... thanks for the new page watcher permissions! :)  Lychosis  T / C  19:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)



, Lychosis has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Move request
I'm back to cleaning up the country adjectivals. Only got through about half of them the last time around.

Please move Chilean (disambiguation) to Chilean.

Adjectivals aren't names for the corresponding countries - they are a qualifier to signify that something else came from there. But some editors get country adjectivals confused with the countries they pertain to, thinking that they are synonymous when in fact they are not. This leads them to believe that the country is the primary topic for the adjectival, when it is the adjectival itself that anyone typing it in wants to see. If you wanted the country, you'd type in "Chile", not "Chilean".

I think many of the adjectivals got redirected to their corresponding countries before there were articles or disambig pages using the adjectival names (here's an example). It was better than having redlinks. Then for a few of those redirected terms, editors assumed the countries were their primary topics, and created separate disambiguation pages for them (with "disambiguation" in parentheses) rather than repurpose the redirect pages.

Then someone comes along and removes the adjectival disambiguation link from the country page, because to him or her it doesn't make sense to include it there (and that's true, it doesn't make sense).

Which orphans it. Like this one.

What a mess.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   04:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow
I just have to say that you have an extraordinary beautiful name???? South Bay   (talk) 05:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Chennaiyil Oru Mazhaikaalam
Why was the film deleted, it is in production!

Can you at least bring the article back, so it can be at least userfied!

Universal Hero (talk) 10:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Universal Hero (talk) 14:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Decide!
Dear Julian, i inform you that Decide!, an article you recently deleted, was retrieved by User:Nightstallion, after I asked him to do so. I don't know exactly why the article was deleted and why I was not informed of the proposed deletion as the main editor of the article. Decide! was actually a political group that was a founding member of The People of Freedom party in March 2009 and his leader Capezzone is now spokesman of the new party. The group, as every notable political party in Italy or elsewhere (when I say notable I mean a party that had obtained non negligible electoral results or that was represented in legislative assemblies), deserves an article and that's why Nightstallion retrieved it. I hope you don't matter. --Checco (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Signature?
G'day,

Recently I got a post on my talk page asking what ClueBot was (from an I.P. Address), happily answered that, but I noticed when I went back to my talk page that the same I.P. Address had posted an obvious copy of your signature after their first comment with the word 'sucker' after it. Now i'm quite aware this is vandalism but I can't seem to find a Wikipedia policy on fraudulent signatures. Care to take a look and tell me what you would see as the appropriate action? (The whole thing is on my Talk page) Thanks heaps – Nathan Laing 10:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Additional: I.P. Now created inappropriate username and posted to my talk page. Do not know what else I can do now. (Info: I.P. is 86.30.6.215 username is 'Shitbot3' – Nathan Laing 11:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Erick
I would say only two lines from that entire article are independent: the badly phrased quote from Pasch, and the line about Chantal's extratropical transition. Thegreatdr (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

A reminder
Just a gentle nudge - you offered during the (now closed) peer review to take a look at Jesus College Boat Club (Oxford) with a view to making it FA-worthy. No rush, and no obligation, but if you did find the time to stop by, I'd be very grateful. Regards, BencherliteTalk 13:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Very kind of you. I'm going to see what else I can do to improve it in the next couple of weeks, then perhaps try for FA.  Thanks, BencherliteTalk 14:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Erick (2007)
nominated Tropical Storm Erick (2007) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 13:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I added 16 links. Parse them and add the info. There should be no problem now. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Email. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Given that the discussion is over notability, which some people agree with, yes, it certainly should stay up. That's hardly pushing my POV. It's putting a template up while this discussion is ongoing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Phoenix Film Critics Society
Hi. I noted that this article was deleted on April 12 due to "no sources to indicate this organization meets the notability requirements of WP:ORG)". I hadn't looked at that page in a while and didn't realize it had a PROD tag. Is it possible to get a copy of that article so that I can source and fix it. There are pages for the various awards categories related to it, which are used in a number of articles and would like to get this back and sourced. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm going to be gone for a few days, so if you happen to be able to retrieve it for me, could you please just copy it to User:Wildhartlivie/Phoenix Critics? Thanks! Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

For clarity later
How did you clear up the edit stats on Bwilkins RfA talkpage? Did you just go to a tool and copy the results or did you put a template in correctly? I'd like to know so I can stop messing it up. Padillah (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

jan bryant bartell
this article was deleted..may I repost it? 76.83.34.243 (talk) 17:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Furmances
Nice call on changing that to an A1 - it's what I tried to do too, but you beat me to it. :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:RfA
Hi Juliancolton, thanks for letting me know - shall I cross out the comment? - Fastily (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Your bot request
Hi Juliancolton I wanted to let you know that Bots/Requests for approval/JCbot is labeled as needing your comment. Please visit the above link to reply to the requests. Thanks! --BAGBot Talk 23:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Special:DeletedContributions/Dylan620 and Special:Contributions/Dylan620
You might want to go through there; I just tagged a whole bunch of broken redirects that were to pages you recently deleted. :P --  Dylan 620  Efforts · Toolbox 00:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Delete, please
File:CC-logo.svg ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 03:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Update on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject & Geography WikiProject (Country outlines workgroup) - 04/16/2009
Momentum in the development of the outlines is continuing to build, even though we haven't added any new outlines lately. Plenty of work is being done on the outlines we already have.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Inspiration!
Kudos go to Buaidh, who has dived head first into outline development, continuing improvement of the country outlines, and doing so vigorously. Take a look at his contribs. He has taken the initiative and has been expanding those outlines' design and coverage. Be sure to let him know what you think of his work!

Coming soon: the Super Huge Expansion (it will be really really big)
Excitement (mine at least) is building as we approach the Super Huge Expansion, during which notices will be placed on thousands of subject talk pages and their corresponding WikiProjects (see below concerning which ones). Though not all on the same day! - this will take place over a period of weeks or months, because it's best not to open the flood gates all at once.

The existing outlines should serve as strong examples for editors who wish to develop new outlines, and so we need to complete them as much as we can before we start to take this to the next level (in about 3 months). The rewrite of the outline article (the draft, which explains outlines in detail), and the guideline on outlines and outline development, also need to be completed before the transcendence begins. These will help guide the decisions and actions of editors, and reduce confusion.

Projected outline, at the OOK WikiProject page
What's next? Where is the Outline of knowledge headed?

Well, it will grow, to encompass all of human knowledge.

But, is there a plan?

YES!!!

Currently under construction on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject page is a version of the outline that will display links to all the outline pages currently in the encyclopedia proper, links to all outline drafts, and redlinks to all planned outline drafts.

You can help. Please place links to the remaining drafts in there (with complete pagenames so we can easily tell they are drafts). Once all the draft pages are placed, please look over the overall outline for gaps in coverage, and add missing subjects. I expect there are thousands of missing subjects extensive enough to benefit from being outlined. New subjects should be included as red draft links. Thank you.

But it's not just an editing task list...

During the upcoming "Super Huge Expansion" (mentioned above), the article talk page and WikiProject for each of the subjects listed on the projected outline will receive a notice requesting the creation and development of the outline page for that subject. Each notice will also explain how a subject's outline will integrate into the Outline of knowledge and into Wikipedia's navigation system as a whole.

See WikiProject Outline of knowledge.

Topic lists
The nice thing about a reverse outline is that it turns up problems that exist in the publication being outlined, which provides opportunities to fix them. Since we get very little or no opposition to fixing problems even on sets of hundreds of pages, we've been plowing through them.

One of the biggest problems in Wikipedia that our work on the Outline of knowledge has uncovered so far is with the set of topics lists. Their titles, in the forms "List of x topics" and "List of x-related topics" are ambiguous, and they are not the most common terms for describing their content. See WP:COMMONNAME. To make matters worse, the set is divided between 2 competing types/sets of pages: alphabetical indexes, and outlines.

In an effort to sort out this mess, the indexes are being renamed, and the outlines are being reformatted and moved, or merged, into the Outline of knowledge.

So far, almost 300 topic lists have been renamed to indexes. Nobody has objected to the names chosen, but one editor has expressed reservation on the approach - he was concerned it would cause confusion by having 2 title standards in place at the same time for these. Though he himself was not confused, nor did he object to the titles. And nobody else has expressed confusion or dissatisfaction with the new titles either. It has been over 2 weeks since the renaming has begun, and since no confusion seems to have been caused, and since there is no opposition to the new names, I plan to continue with the renaming.

Also, one topic list has been merged into its corresponding outline so far: List of transport topics was merged into Outline of transport. It turned out very good. List of cell biology topics is currently being merged into Outline of cell biology (see the link dump in hidden comments at the end of the outline).

I'm not sure how many lists have "topics" in their titles, but Google turned up 788, and these appear to include the ones that have already been renamed to indexes. Subtracting those renamed so far, there are about 500 more to go.

Watching tips
I thought you might want to compare notes on the methods we use to watch over the outlines. Here's how I keep an eye on things...

My watchlist had so many thousands of articles in it that I finally just deleted them all. Now I have it set so that I have to manually add pages to be watched, and I use it only to watch trouble spots and collaborations I'm participating in.

Because I like to watch specific sets of pages at a time, I use "Related changes" on list pages. That way the results are not watered down with edits from pages I'm not immediately concerned with.

I always use WP:POP and Related changes together. With POP installed, you go to a link list, like User:Buaidh/Country outlines of the Americas, then click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu, and then hover the mouse cursor over the diff and hist links so you can look at those without clicking on them.

It's pretty fast.

The technique turns Wikipedia's list system into a crystal ball.

Update Scanner
Penubag recommends Update Scanner, which is a Firefox add-on that periodically scans pages and pings you when a change is detected. You can even set its level of sensitivity for each scanned page (e.g., "ignore changes of 100 words or less").

I'd use it, but I don't have a computer. :(

See also WP:OTS for more power tools and techniques, and User:Penubag/optimum toolsets for some more nice addons, that do a variety of things.

I'm always looking for new power tools and power skills, so if you know of any, please share (let me know)!

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   04:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

50 AWB tasks reassigned (to you)
The U.S. State article lists in the form "List of x-related topics" (where x is the name of a state) have been changed to "Index of x-related topics". The links in the encyclopedia need to be updated.

For each state AWB needs to be used to make a list of "what links here" specifying "List of x-related topics". Then filter down the list to the article, portal, and wikipedia namespaces.

Then set the search/replace feature to find "List of x-related topics" and replace it with "Index of x-related articles".

If there's a way to integrate these tasks so as to do fewer runs (50 is a lot), more power to ya! :) Like copying the search/replace string and typing in the 50 state names into them all at once in the search/replace section.

If you have questions, comments, problems, etc., please chat me up on my talk page.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   04:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll be able to help if you need any assistance. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Looking at his contributions shows that Robert Skyhawk hasn't been around for over a month. We definitely need somebody else to do these.  I guess that means you.  :)


 * The make list steps of all the tasks can be combined (by entering all the pagenames and clicking "make list" after each entry). That way, you only have to use the list filter once.  Likewise, the search/replace strings for each link to be replaced should all be entered before you press "start".  By setting AWB up in this way, you should be able to do all 50 states in one pass.


 * Good luck.


 * Have fun.


 * And if you learn any shortcuts or better ways of doing this, please let me know!


 *  Th e Tr ans hu man ist   20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, got it (for the most part). There is one part that I don't quite understand, however:


 * "For each state AWB needs to be used to make a list of "what links here" specifying "List of x-related topics". Then filter down the list to the article, portal, and wikipedia namespaces."


 * Could you explain this further? Thanks. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 20:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Since the time I wrote that, I figured out how to combine the tasks into a single pass on AWB.


 * The goal of the task is to change the links "List of Alabama-related topics", "List of Arkansas-related topics", etc. (wherever they appear in pages in the article, portal, and wikipedia namespaces) to "Index of Alabama-related articles", "Index of Arkansas-related articles", etc.


 * So, start AWB and use the make list feature. From the selection of list types available, click  "What links here".  Then in the input box, type "List of Alabama-related topics" (without the quotation marks).  Then click "make list" or press Enter.


 * Then before you do anything else, repeat the above step for the remaining states. ("List of Alaska-related topics", "List of Arkansas-related topics", etc.)  The list you are making will grow each time.  (Tip: instead of typing the whole thing in each time, you can paste "List of -related topics" and fill in the state name).


 * When you are done building the list, you need to filter it. At the bottom of the make list section is the filter feature.  Click on it, which should bring up the filter window.  It lets you choose which namespaces you want included or excluded from the list you just made.  Select the namespaces you want to keep (main, portal, and wikipedia), and then activate the filter.  It will remove all unwanted pages from the page list.


 * When you are done filtering the list, then you need to set up the search/replaces. Enter in all 50 of them into the search/replace feature of AWB.


 * Once those are entered, you are ready to rock and roll. Press "Start".


 * Good luck. Have fun.


 * Let me know if you need further assistance.


 *  Th e Tr ans hu man ist   21:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Important: I just remembered, there's a problem with Georgia (because of the country by that name).  You'll need to use "List of Georgia (U.S. state)-related topics" and "Index of Georgia (U.S. state)-related articles".  Sorry I forgot about that.  That could have been disastrous.   Th e Tr ans hu man ist    21:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I already noticed that. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 22:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 50 AWB Tasks Julian? Good luck! I'm around if you need my help! :) The  Helpful  One  13:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Jamaica–Serbia relations
Hi Julian. Nothing to change in the above AfD. Just a head's up - after this discussion we are looking to ensure AfD discussions go for seven days. SNOW closes are no longer seen as appropriate. Early closes should follow the guidelines in WP:Speedy keep or WP:Speedy delete. Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 07:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I felt that since consensus had been clearly established, IAR was applicable. I am quite astonished that a rule discouraging SNOW closes has been set, but that's bureaucracy for ya. :) Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I know what you're saying! But people feel that not everyone is on Wiki every day, so a full 7 days (therefore including a weekend) is really needed for a full consensus. SNOW was designed to cut through "pointless" bureaucracy, but the new rule actually makes sense so SNOW doesn't apply to AfDs. There's going to be a few people who are not aware of the new situation, so there'll be more SNOW closes over the next few days. They are not worth over-turning, but the closers should be made aware that the situation has changed.  SilkTork  *YES! 17:11, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll keep that in mind. Cheers, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thomas R. Vozzella
Hello, I would be very happy to have the article deleted. This has been one of the worst experiences ever. I think my colleague is a very worthwhile musician, and has given and excelled in the church/choral world. Can you just delete it and end the humiliation of the constant badgering. Don't ruin him, because of my inability to write the Wikipedia way. I have tried most of the morning to blank the page, etc. and people keep putting it back. I have followed every suggestion, made every change as I understood them, and it has become more of an unpleasant experience. Thanks, and again, just delete it. MusicTex (talk) 16:15, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Terrillja talk  18:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Another deletion
Can you delete File:Assemblyman Jim Tedisco (R-NY).jpg? It's a redundant of another file on Commons (both taken from this and agreed upon for deletion). ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 11:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

My request
Thanks for the very prompt response to request for rollback.--Sabrebd (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge and transwiki
Hi. On Articles for deletion/Unification Church political views you closed it by saying "Merge and transwiki." I was the one who nominated it for deletion. How is this going to happen? Much of the material is already on Wikiquote. Steve Dufour (talk) 02:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm going to start on this by moving the quotes to Wikiquote.Steve Dufour (talk) 15:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikiprojects in signature
Hi, am I right in thinking that your customized signature used to link to a Wikiproject? If so, was there a reason you stopped doing so? Cheers. — R  2  03:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, it's nothing important. I was considering doing a similar thing, I thought you did it once, and maybe someone told you to remove it or something. I'm not going to be around forever and I'm concerned about the future of WP:MJJ without me. Not that I'm trying to be big headed. We have a healthy number of helpers, but only have 3-4 editors (including myself) that can write articles to GA standard. I was hoping to recruit more people by highlighting the project, we had a few more editors join when Jackson announced his concerts. — R  2  15:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Do not read this one - The Hunt - Outline of knowledge WikiProject - 04/17/2009
While surveying libraries, their outline-related resources, and our coverage of them, I came across something funny...

What subclass is the Bible in the Library of Congress Classification?

Do you think they'd like this one at WP:DYK? (Nope. They didn't.)     :)

Libraries
For months, I've been sitting at a terminal in one of the largest libraries in the country, and I haven't even looked around at the available resources.

Until a few days ago.

I'm overwhelmed.

When compared to libraries, Wikipedia is small. (See Digest of Education Statistics 2008, Chapter 7:Libraries and Educational Technology Libraries, and turn to page 617).

But is that a fair comparison?

Yes.

Why?

Because we have growth potential. :)

And we cover everything, including libraries!

Guess what else I found?

Hunting for outlines
I began to study libraries and librarians, since they are experts in organizing knowledge. And of course I turned to Wikipedia to see what we had on the things I came across...

And while doing so I kept running into outlines on Wikipedia that are not (yet) part of the Outline of knowledge.

When I come across non-OOK outlines, generally I rename them, and reformat them to our standard outline format. But there is the occasional exception.

Here are some outlines I just added:


 * 1) List of energy topics --> Outline of energy (it converted great)
 * 2) List of Dewey Decimal classes --> Outline of Dewey Decimal classes (no conversion)
 * 3) Library of Congress Classification --> ??? (no rename, no conversion)

The last 2 are outlines by their very nature, and so our standard outline subheadings didn't seem to fit. So I left them as is.

I renamed the first 2, but the last one is the name of the outline, that is, the topic itself is an outline, and that outline is presented as the article's content, so I left the name as is. For now. This needs more thought.

Of course, that's not all. Concerning those last 2 outlines above...

Alternate outlines of knowledge
...not only are they outlines, but they are outlines of knowledge! Well, the top few levels, at least.

Uh, so?

What happens if we linkify them? :)

That is, what happens if we linkify their classifications to Wikipedia's outlines? :)  :)   :)

They become alternate top ends to the OOK
Yep.

What can you find?
I challenge you to find some "hidden" outlines.

I dare you to take a look around Wikipedia for hidden outlines (that is, outlines not yet hooked into the OOK), and add your kills to WP:WPOOK.

My trophies are already there.

May the hunt begin!
 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   20:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Firearm_(tool)
Did you read the talk page and all the delete and merge votes? None of the issues, such as the fact that the article is mostly just copy and pasted from elsewhere, or that it's a POV fork article with hardly any new content, which could easily be merged into the main Firearms article, were adequately countered by those who requested it be kept Theserialcomma (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * on my count it should have been merged, but do you have any proposal, as far as wikipedia policy goes, on how we should deal with the content that is taken, verbatim, from other articles? if all that content were removed, the article would be virtually empty. if all that content remains, it's just a POV fork created because on the Firearms article, an editor was told that a firearm is a weapon, not a tool, for the purpose of the lede sentence. Theserialcomma (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * i think the consensus, factoring in the content of the messages in the 'delete' votes, was to merge. i counted 4 delete votes, 4 keep votes, 1 keep/merge, and 2 merges, as far as explicit votes go. however, if you judged the content of the delete votes, 4 of 4 deletes stated this was a POV/content fork, which is typically rectified by merging the useful info and removing the superfluous fork article. so looking beyond the actual keep/delete/merge words, and judging the content of the explanations and potential ramifications of the votes, i think it appears to be that the votes swayed towards 7 merges, with good reasons, and 4 keeps with weak reasons, with one of the keeps reasons being something about "no censorship in america!" or some such (it's in an edit summary) Theserialcomma (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

IRC
You left rather abruptly, but yes, I have read policy, and I just have a different interpretation than you do. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

BLP watch
You speedy-deleted Category:BLP watched articles earlier today as a C1 (empty category), but it wasn't empty until User:Synergy went through and removed all of the articles within (a few minutes previously). You might want to recreate the category and talk to Synergy, because I don't think that there was any sort of consensus at all for his actions, and C1 is not to be used on categories unless they have been empty for four days.  Horologium  (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't think this would be controversial in the slightest. Fine. So we wait 4 days now I suppose.  Syn  ergy 21:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the category is not empty any more (Sarah Palin is back in it) and I suspect that others will also be returned. If you want this category to go away, do it the correct way, through CFD, not a if-nobody's-looking-I-can-make-this-disappear stunt like what you just pulled. Oh, and Julian, I'm not going to go all Giano on you, but citing a discussion on IRC is probably not the best way to deal with a controversial issue. :)  Horologium  (talk) 21:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it didn't seem like a controversial issue at the time. I suppose it was more a misunderstanding than anything else. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 21:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that I have had an opportunity to read Synergy's talk page, it appears that I badly over-reacted here. I was not aware that the BLP watch project was stillborn, and I know that the Palin article (on my watchlist) is under ArbCom editing restrictions (from the arbitration case last year). My apologies to both of you, although some sort of notice (other than "remove") would have helped.  Horologium  (talk) 21:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for giving rollback to my alternate account. GT5162 (我的对话页) 21:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion request
Given the result of Articles for deletion/Information and Documenation Center on NATO in Republic of Moldova, would you also please consider deleting the duplicate page Information and Documentation Center on NATO in Republic of Moldova? Thanks. - Biruitorul Talk 22:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll start that up. - Biruitorul Talk 23:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Never gonna
Give you up, never gonna let you down, nice glasses btw =\ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.36.235.146 (talk) 23:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Robbing Peter to pay Paul
The page Robbing Peter to pay Paul was recently deleted as a result of an expired prod. I was unaware that a prod had been placed there, and had I noticed it, I would have removed it, thereby requiring it to go to afd. Besides, if it goes to afd, I support saving it, and could even improve it. Hellno2 (talk) 02:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Please participate in Flag of Singapore's peer review
Hello, Juliancolton! On IRC, you said you liked flag articles and would be happy to review Flag of Singapore. You have probably forgotten (or were too busy), and the article has only received one review in three weeks, so here is a gentle reminder to review the article! We (Zscout370, Jacklee and I) are particularly concerned about the prose and organisation. Thank you in advance! --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 03:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I have a question
Is it ageist the rules to Removing-tag per Template. To clean up the backlog. because I been doing this for a week now. I did get Articles to be expanded down to 5,273 articles... It was over 6,000 articles before I started.

Is it ageist the rules to add { { talkheader } } on the talk pages of new pages that I know are not going to get deleted?

I been having problems with a user over the adding { { talkheader } } on talk pages of new page (Articles talk pages). Another Administrator told them it was aright.. But.. She or He keeps bugging me and I told that user to leave me alone. Other than that my day has been bad.--  Michael  (Talk) 07:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I just need to know. If I'm doing right or wrong here--  Michael  (Talk) 07:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will no longer put { { talkheader } } on talk pages of new Articles. Thank you for your reply. I am sorry for doing this. I thought I was helping but I was not. Please respond, So I know you read this. --  Michael  (Talk) 17:49, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Summer-Like Weather in California
It's summer in April in Southern California. Right now in Ridgecrest, CA it is 90 °F at 5:00pm (PST)

... Heat advisory in effect...

A strong ridge of high pressure will continue to combine with a weak offshore flow to create record to near-record high temperatures on Monday. Locations at the coast will again soar into the 80s. For spots further inland... many places will go into the upper 90s with even a few 100s not out of the question. This second day of much above normal temperatures has the potential to create health problems especially for people who are highly sensitive to the heat.--  Michael  (Talk) 00:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Check this link out Here National Weather Service --  Michael  (Talk) 03:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Had, and is expecting the same in Lancaster :( Matthewedwards : Chat  03:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd tap that.
Pshhhhhhhh I'd tap that. *huggle* -- Mix well ! Talk 02:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
DougsTech (talk) 03:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIII
Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 09:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

Preceding unsigned comment
Thank you for your consideration. I have made an attempt to appease the editor on my talk page. Please advise if there is anything else I should do to avoid even the appearance of being disruptive. --Preceding unsigned comment 11:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to the page Green turtle has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. StaticGull Talk  16:35, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, this is the first time I've gotten a template warning in years. [[Image:718smiley.svg|25px]] – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:36, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You helpless noob you... To be fair though, it should probably be logged as a Huggle bug (collision of HG action?), given your edit was a Huggle edit, his was too, and yours wasn't in fact reverted... Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 18:29, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Imitation
I think you may have a fan? Sincerest form of flattery, they say, :-)  Mae din \talk 18:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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AfD for Colleen Nestler
Looking at the AfD at the time of closing, I see 4 Keep/Rename opinions, 4 Delete (including the nom), and one undecided Rename/Delete. What led you to close it as Delete? I'm interested in hearing your reasons for seeing such a consensus. Thanks! Owen&times; &#9742;  16:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * True, but AfD isn't a vote, so I pay pore attention to the strength of each argument. In this case, I feel the editors in favor of deletion had stronger evidence to back up their claims. Also, I tend to be ever-so-slightly deletionist when it comes to BLPs. :) Hope this helps, –Juliancolton | Talk 16:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I realize this isn't a vote, and I share your views on BLP. But the main issue on this AfD was that the article wasn't a BLP at all, just a poorly-chosen title for a court case. Please take another look at the article and the discussion. I'd really rather settle this directly with you than take it to DRV. If you like, I can restore the article as "Colleen Nestler v. David Letterman" and relist it for AfD; I'm sure the result will be much clearer then. It's a shame to lose a decent article about a notable court case just because the original author chose a poor title for it. Thank you. Owen&times; &#9742;  16:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Even so, the arguments for deletion were, in my opinion, far stronger than those for keeping the article, regardless of the article's title. Perhaps it would be best to initiate a discussion at DRV, so we can get some outside opinions. Regards, – Juliancolton &#124; Talk 17:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I listed it on DRV. I'll be happy to reword if you feel my description there is inaccurate. Owen&times; &#9742;  18:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Julian,

I am not wel vered to the programming of Wikipedia. So any of my retries and technical misteps I do appologise. HOwever, I can verify that the data of composer Atle Bakken's page is correct. It's a travesty that it is removed. The person who started this, JamesHunt is blocked by Wikipeida.

I hope that free information will again be available for this fine European composer.

Sincerely,

Alexander Naumik aka. Nelior70. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelior70 (talk • contribs) 00:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Julian,

I am not well versed to the programming of Wikipedia. So any of my retries and technical missteps I do apologize. HOwever, I can verify that the data of composer Atle Bakken's page is correct. It's a travesty that it is removed. The person who started this, JamesHunt is blocked by Wikipedia.

I hope that free information will again be available for this fine European composer.

Sincerely,

Alexander Naumik aka. Nelior70. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelior70 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

April 22. 2009.

Dear Julian,

I am not well versed to the programming of Wikipedia. So any of my retries and technical missteps I do apologize. However, I can verify that the data of composer Atle Bakken's page is correct. It's a travesty that it is removed. The person who started this, JamesHunt is blocked by Wikipedia.

I hope that free information will again be available for this fine European composer.

Sincerely,

Alexander Naumik aka. Nelior70. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelior70 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for help
I've been rewriting the Outline article from scratch.

Before I move it to article space, it needs to be finished and completely referenced.

I need your help on it.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   01:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Concerning the outline article
Outline already exists.

When the draft is completed, I'd like it moved over the current version, and their edit histories merged.

Have you done that type of thing before? How would we go about doing that?

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   01:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: I'm cross-posting this message to Thehelpfulone. Please reply on my talk page.

Relisting AFDs
Your relisting of and  will never be seen because the old AFD pages are removed from the listing. They need to either be relisted on the current day's AFD page or taken to DRV. Nakon 03:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Message from Godfrey Walawage
hello, I forward this matter to User talk:Until It Sleeps and he suggested for me to consult you regarding this matter.

I am Godfrey Walawage and I am new to wiki and I am expanding my contribution little by little on wiki cos it helps many people around the world. I make use of the wiki for my day to day work. I am currently working on the page St Peter's College, Colombo and its still under construction but I am unable to expand some of the topics to another page

Eg:- I want to have topics "Battles of the Saints" and "Honours Recipients" to another new page named "Battles of the Saints" and to "List of St.Peter's College alumni (Old Peterites)".I checked on the wiki whether there is any existing pages under these name and I found none. Ones I tried to build one but one of the pages and it automatically was removed. Can you please create these pages to me.

I am referring these pages are similar to.....

1) "Battles of the Saints" Is a event (cricket) that is very popular inter school cricket match in between St Peter's College and st.Joseph's college in Sri lanka. This page will be shared by the page St. Joseph's College, Colombo. For your reference please check a page that is similar to this page - the event Royal–Thomian link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal-Thomian

2) The page "List of St.Peter's College alumni (Old Peterites)" is the list of famous old boys who studied in St. Peter's college. I wanted to take the current topic "Honours Recipients" from the page St. Peter's college because it is a long list. This is page is similar to List of Royal College alumni (Old_Royalists)

link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_College_alumni_(Old_Royalists)

Please be kind enough in creating me those two pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Godfrey Walawage (talk • contribs) 22:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppets stacking discussions
Unfortunately, because of the issue raised at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, I've re-listed "The Above Ground Sound" of Jake Holmes at Deletion Review (Deletion review/Log/2009 April 20). See the listing for more details. In light of the new evidence, and what you said in the prior review you based your closure upon, please double-check your closure and report at DRV whether or not this changes things. Uncle G (talk) 11:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You might also want to take another look at this AFD where the nominator !votes delete with one of his socks. (ironically the other "delete" is the article's creator) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good catch, ✅relisted. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * What about Articles for deletion/Rama Claproth? Although even without the nom and sock, there is some consensus there... Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 13:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, even after excluding the socks, there's still consensus to delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem with that. I'm working my way through A-K's edits to identify tainted XfDs and figured it was close enough to the margin to warrant a second glance. Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 14:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As Usrnme h8er observes, and as I've said to some other closing administrators, there are more coming down the pipeline, unfortunately. One such is Articles for deletion/Like It or Not.  Please review your closure in light of what is now known. Uncle G (talk) 02:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * And please review your closure of Articles for deletion/A Beginning as well. Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 03:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Both relisted. Regards, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Another one is Articles for deletion/Andante, Andante. Thanks, Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 04:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also requesting that you review your close of Articles for deletion/Pulse Nation. Thank you, Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 02:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Request
I just wanted to ask you about something I can't edit the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmedinejad and one thing I saw that irked me was that Jon Voight (The actor) was listed under the advisers to the president. Whether this was supposed to be a stupid joke or possibly an attack on Jon Voight, it's obviously untrue and I figured that since you put it up for semi-protection, you could make the edit. Whenever you have time, of course. Have a good day, and thank you for your assistance. ~Blade Omega Blade Omega (talk) 18:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

niki ghazian
You erroneously deleted my article and I want it retrieved ASAP

Your assertion was that subject was not an athlete however there was never such a claim! The topic was about the named models career

All claims were substantiated by 3rd party sources such as magazines with specific issue dates and links to magazine websites. I spent hours working on this and it needs to be retreieved bc your assertion thaat subject was not an athlete was NEVER a claim in my article. I look forward to your cooperation or I will have to discuss this hasty and inappropriate deletion with a higher administrator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesb99 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I never got notice of the proposed deletion or I would have responded. Further since you were the person who actually facilitated the deletion you should have checked to make sure the assertions made by the first moderator were true. No where in my article did I insinuate that this model was an athlete. There were over 25 verifiable sources. I don't appreciate my work being thrown out. I need it retreived and need your help. Thank you. JB —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesb99 (talk • contribs) 01:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Some deletions before I go to bed...
Thanks as always! ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 04:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * File:Battisteria01.jpg
 * File:Blackhall seaham.JPG
 * File:Blue nile map.png
 * File:Blueyellowribbon.jpg
 * File:Blockingout.jpg
 * File:BobbyMooreBP.JPG

No flagged revisions category up for deletion
The category associated with the no flagged revisions userbox you have placed on your user page is up for deletion at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009 April 23 and you are invited to share your opinions on the issue. Alansohn (talk) 05:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok understood
Ok, I understand that one edit is nojustafiable for a block. I will just keep my eye open and keep trying to keep the vandalism down! :) Long live wikipedia!!!

PS> could you take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Ken_Durham

Thanks Ken Durham (talk) 18:22, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

An AfD
Opened this one on April 12. What say you?  Enigma  msg 03:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Lavanderblue
Thanks for moving User:Lavanderblue's 2nd sandbox. I've been trying to help her/him (Lavanderblue sounds like a her) but I didn't have time while I was at work other than a brief note. Dan D. Ric (talk) 04:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar
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Entry deletion
I understand that my entry has been deleted. I would appreciate some feedback on why. Do I have opportunity to appeal it? Many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylormax (talk • contribs) 08:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:NYCD
Just so you know. ~  ωαdεstεr 16  «talkstalk» 11:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Help on reading if a RfC has consensus
I'm contacting yourself and some other uninvolved editors to see if you would be willng to read through an RfC at the Article Rescue Squad. It will be far from the most glamourous use of your time but it will help us see if we have reached a decision on this issue. I think the discussion has died down and concensus has been reached but another user has posited I'm misreading this. For the moment I've left my comments in the "Motion to close" and collapsed template in place but if others agree there is no consensus I'm fine removing or reworking them. The discussion itself isn't too brutal and the comments have stayed reasonably well organized so it shouldn't take long. Please read the RfC and discussion and offer your take in the "Motion to close" section. Thank you! -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   13:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Smashwords/Bestcalls
Hi, I've been trying to create an acceptable article for smashwords, and one of the references I used pointed to a Wikipedia entry for bestcalls, but now that page seems to have disappeared april 17. Someone criticized the smashwords article for lacking notoriety, so the reference to bestcalls I thought helped illustrate the notoriety given the common founder, especially the common thread behind both companies. Now it's gone, even though the BC article was there for years, vetted, edited and peer reviewed by many many people? I don't know what's going on here, but it seems whatever I touch gets flagged and it's not if people would just take the time to study. Confused new member, wondering if it was a mistake to ever try to contribute here. Thanks for your help. Feedmelit (talk) 07:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Julian, thanks for the additional comments. I'm re-reviewing the suggested documents, and I think I'm on track. Can you explain why you deleted the bestcalls article? That company was started by the same person, and from a notoriety perspective it was probably 100X more notable than the new company going off of the news clips it referenced in its article (WSJ, BusinessWeek, others), founder's involvement with the new SEC regulations, etc. Without that article to reference within the context of the smashwords article, it'll be more difficult for editors here to understand the notoriety of the new one, and notoriety appears to be at the crux of early criticism my first drafts of this article. Feedmelit (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Help Request
Dear Juliancolton, Could you find time to help me with the following page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Tavera

I am finding myself a little striped of time and don't think I will be able to finish it! Thanks for any help you can offer, Ken Durham (talk) 16:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Will you please let me know if you can help by messaging me back? thanks

CSD criteria
Hi. There's this new page, Disarray which is a defintion of the word instead of an article. If it is a candidate for CSD, what tag would be best? Also, in general, what should I do if an article for speedy deletion does not fit into any of the criteria? Thanks.  Oliver Fury, Esq. message  •  contributions  19:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not eligible for speedy deletion, but you can try to have it deleted via WP:PROD or WP:AFD. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;color:steelblue;">X clamation point  19:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks.  Oliver Fury, Esq. message  •  contributions  19:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you missed the point
While I am not particularly upset that you closed the List of LGBT Jews as "keep", I think your rationale is not correct. I think you were bamboozled by a list of books about the intersection of LGBT and Jewishness, and closed the AfD based upon the entirely notable intersection.

But that intersection was not the rationale of the AfD. Nowhere will you find me argue against the notability of that intersection. You will find me argue against a random list of folk who happen to be at that intersection.

So I submit that your rationale as it stands does not address the true point of discussion, and ask you either to vary your closure or to vary the rationale. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Since the consensus was more based upon the notability of the intersection rather than the notability of the list I disagree. As I said, I am not about to get bent out of shape over it, but I think the decision does not summarise the discussion to reflect the other things you took into account.  Hence my request.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 16:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIV
Delivered for the WikiCup by  ROBOTIC GARDEN  at 14:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC). To report errors see the talk page.

User:Robgugli - (Sock-puppet)
Can you check User:Robgugli out for me. I came across this user when I reverted this edit on there user page. To me it looks like vandalism. I was shock to see what they was putting on there page. Then I check out there edit count (Edit Counter) See here and I Discovered that they have 2 other accounts on here, User:Bkkimm and User:Wgugliel. So, then I see this THIS vandalism that User:Robgugli did to there other User:Bkkimm account. It says, Reverted edits by Robgugli identified as vandalism to last revision by Bkkimm.

Robgugli edits
 * 49 - User:Robgugli / Edit Counter / Revision history
 * 10 - User:Bkkimm / Edit Counter / Revision history
 * 2 - User:Wgugliel / Edit Counter / Revision history

I think this is a Sock-puppet. Can you let me know if this is a Sock-puppet or not. --  Michael  (Talk) 11:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm... do you want me to post this on the Administrators' noticeboard, Since there was no response.--  Michael  (Talk) 17:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done,.. See, Sockpuppet investigations/Robgugli. --  Michael  (Talk) 18:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * O my, No one has responded. I know it. --  Michael  (Talk) 02:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How long dose it normally take--  Michael  (Talk) 02:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, OK--  Michael  (Talk) 02:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Robgugli is now blocked. Can you look at his user page, Remove the vandalism. Thanks'--  Michael  (Talk) 07:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:WT:RFA
Not sufficient?--Caspian blue 19:04, 25 April 2009 (UTC) :Whenever you replied to me, I find no amusement from your comment.--Caspian blue 19:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I just don't find any pleasure talking with you. No thanks for more visits.--Caspian blue 19:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I realized that my way of humoring/speaking is sometimes not properly interpreted by others unlike what I intended. That is my job to improve my communication skills. You seem like a friendly person given this note (I thought you may not visit me for just the small thanking note) So well, the above comment is struck off now. Have a nice day.--Caspian blue 16:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikia
Please could you confirm if you are Juliancolton on Wikia. We have had 2 impersonators on Admin Tools Wiki claiming to be enwiki admins recently so we need to make sure. Thanks. GT5162 (我的对话页) 09:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of American public officials convicted of crimes
Obviously, virtually any admin would have closed this the way you did; I doubt I myself would have the guts to close it as "delete" (I would have gone for "no consensus"). Still, I think the issues raised in the AfD have not been sufficiently considered, and I'm thinking about listing it at WP:DRV. I wanted to give you a heads up first, and to get your thoughts. Thanks. Chick Bowen 16:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. I think the basic problem I raised, which is that the list violates NPOV by singling out a few prominent cases of the many that fit the criteria, hasn't been addressed. I assume this is what the couple of delete voters meant by "criteria are too broad."  The only response to that argument was, "can be improved."  But I don't think the possibility of improvement cancels out the policy problems with the article--the question is: can it be improved enough?  Chick Bowen 16:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe. But it seems to me that to fulfill NPOV it would have to be narrow enough to be completeable.  For example, why Mitchell and not Haldeman or Erlichman, or Scooter Libby?  Cabinet-level appointments only?  But then that would exclude Abrams and Poindexter.  If those two are included, then it seems it would have to be essentially any high-ranking member of the executive branch, which would make it too broad to be completable.  List of United States Congress members who have been convicted of crimes, maybe.  But I can't think of a list that would include somebody like Mitchell or Poindexter that would not essentially be choosing people based on their notoriety rather than any objective criterion. Can you? Chick Bowen 21:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

UAA
Two questions for you:


 * Have you seen my response at UAA?


 * Malinaccier and I were discussing that other username in IRC, I agree it should be moved to COIN. Do you mind if I remove it from the UAA list?  Ceran  thor 16:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait, scratch the second thing. It is a blatant violation, look at its edits.
 * Heh, that works.  Ceran  thor 16:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Edit #1000
You happy now????  Lucifer  (Talk)  00:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay. :D – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Your summary disposition of AfD/Marco Lazzara
I do wish you had waited until the April 30, as I had requested, before closing the AfD for Marco Lazzara. I was prepared to provide counterarguments. I still don't see anything that would satisfy notability. I see attempts, but looking deeper, the references are no more notable than those of opera chorus members, and almost all of them are in Italian, in conflict with WP:NONENG. At the very least, I wish you had made an attempt to contact me. &mdash;Danorton (talk) 00:39, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Re your message on my talk page, yes, please re-open per above. Thanks. &mdash;Danorton (talk) 00:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Kipperoo vandals
For the life of me I can't figure why those three Zolarnaaq, Arctic Chill and Epiclulzman were vandalizing that page. Kipperoo only made 4 edits in the last 2 years and only about 40 altogether. Randomness? Anyway, you blocked Epiclulzman but not the other two, though they are not vandalizing at present. Dan D. Ric (talk) 03:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

More suspected cases in Canada
There are suspected cases in Quebec and Saskatchewan in Canada in case you wanted to color the Canadian map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.16.55 (talk) 04:08, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Here's the 2 in Quebec. I'm looking for the cases in Saskatchewan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.16.55 (talk) 04:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

How is 6 people being mildly ill a "Medical Disaster in Canada"? Sheesh, a bit a alarmist, aren't we? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.205.252 (talk) 05:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Smile!
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Problems with neutrality of article
Hi! You helped me out twice before and I thought that you could again. If you have other things to do I won't bother you again.

I objected to the article 'Persian people' because it was biased, unfair and Contained factually wrong statements. You told me to share my concerns on the discussion page of the article and include a token that stated that the neutrality of the article was disputed. I have done all of that, where do I go from here? How can I get the article deleted and replaced with the correct one that was in place before they change it?

Thanks agains

Perhaps You Can Help...
A few of us at WP:TVS are having a problem with User:Theaveng adding copyrighted information to List of television stations in North America by media market‎. The information has to do with the Nielsen Television Markets. The user has been adding information from the FCC (which is exactly alike to the information Nielsen uses). To avoid being in violation of OTRS ticket #2008091610055854, the information is removed. For whatever reason User:Theaveng readds it. The user has been warned multiple times and had stopped, but started up again today. I reverted and issued a Warn4im warning. I brought this to User:Powergate92‎ (who has been involved in talk page discussions about this and who I thought was an admin) and he sugguested I bring it to an admin. Since you are the only one available at the moment, I bring this to your attention and ask what should be done. - <small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 14, 2009 @ 21:42
 * That is the one that was plastered on all the histories of all the stations in September of last year. This is one of the links where the OTRS ticket was used back in '08. - <small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 14, 2009 @ 21:52
 * Okie Dokie. Thanks...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 14, 2009 @ 22:05

My last edit to crank high voltage
As ridiculous as it sounds, in crank high voltage he does not kill the doctors because they were going to remove his heart. He heard them talking about removing his penis. It may not be appropriate, but the previous version was inaccurate. Please revert it back, or change it.

Thanks
for the closing the AfD cases. (I can less worry about my DKY nom :-) ).--Caspian blue

User:TRBlom
FYI, it appears that s/he moved the content to Cases of and responses to the 2009 swine flu outbreak after a very brief discussion on the main talk page (Talk:2009 swine flu outbreak). I likely would have reverted the transfer anyway, but for other reasons... -- auburn pilot  talk  20:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

taco
An editor has requested that semi-protection be lifted from the article. I figured I would ask you about it, as you seem to have protected it. Thanks. Lawshoot! 20:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That was some fast food work. Law shoot! 20:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Suspected nebraska cases
, these two links seem to list some suspected cases in Nebraska, I went ahead and updated the US article just saying there may be suspected cases. Do you think the tables should be updated also or as that premature. Thanks - Marcusmax ( speak ) 01:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, im on it. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 02:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I am doing further research, apparently the "suspicious specimen was negative" however I am looking for further details on the other cases before updating the table. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 02:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya im updating at leat the text to say that particular case was negative, but the other 12+ cases are still unconfirmed per, , . So here is my final question, do you think Nebraska sould be added to the table with 12+ unconfirmed cases, or should we hold off for further info. Thanks - Marcusmax ( speak ) 02:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I kind of thought. LOL, we don't need mass hysteria from information that is just breaking. Anyway thanks for the help. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 02:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:UAA
How is User:Poopoo567 possibly appropriate? --Rschen7754 (T C) 07:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

PirateSmackK
Eh... he's been asking damn near everyone for rollback. Check out User talk:Taxman for some additional discussion of him.

I'm not going to undo your flag grant until I see some fresh evidence of jackassery, but just thought I'd drop you a line. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Flu in NZ
Thanks for redirecting this. It all looks like hype to me. Previous outbreaks wiped out 10,000 people a day, and the world had less population then. I sometimes wonder how people would cope with a big outbreak. Wallie (talk) 15:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't get me wrong. I have always thought the number one threat is pandemic, followed by world war, then depression. (maybe I should think about the environment - global warming too). People have been going on about crime, terrorism, immigration, etc. We are getting towards pandemic and depression now. Reality check! I just don't think this is the "big one". This one seems to respond to flu injections. I get annoyed why they don't use this to show what happened in 1918. In the US 500,000-650,000 died. That is worse the in the American Civil War. Wallie (talk) 15:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I feel so sick that so many people have died and will likely die. I'm laying off the article for today.  I didn't know that an article can affect an author so much. :( User F203 (talk) 23:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Rakt
Hi Juliancolton as the closing admin of Articles for deletion/FC de Rakt (2nd nomination) could you have a look at the Rakt article. It was created by the same editor who made the article you deleted. There is one sentence about the village the rest is an attempt to circumvent the AFD. FC de Rakt even redirects to this article. It even contains the results of football matches played by this non notable team. An editor has reverted now a couple of times the removal of the table saying that they are so bad it is notable could you please throw your eye to it thanks. BigDunc Talk 18:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you had a look? BigDunc  Talk 17:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Free (Dani Harmer song)
Following Articles for deletion/Free (Dani Harmer Song), could you take care of Free (Dani Harmer song)? I think it's time for some salting. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
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Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback
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Oldest BLP?
I think you'll need to check the DOB a bit closer in future when you bulk add the Living people cat to pages... Robert W. Thompson was born in 1891, so I doubt he'll still qualify for BLP! The-Pope (talk) 12:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

AFD help
User:Chuckjav has been ignoring the recent AFD on an elementary school in Michigan. He reverted/recreated the page several times, as well as leaving comments in the middle of a closed AFD. I haven't said anything on his talk page- I just don't know where to start. Since you closed the AFD, can you step in and deal with it? tedder (talk) 15:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Changing "confirmed deaths" due to swine flu on main page
Hi, and thanks for the reply! I've been trying to get the apparently sensational and false claim that 159 people are confirmed to have died from swine flu removed. The number from the WHO is 7 as of today. How can we get this addressed by someone who can edit the main page? I think this is a pretty important error. Thanks!Jcblackmon (talk) 16:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Your change is much appreciated. Thank you. I noticed it was then changed to "160 lab-confirmed deaths" by someone, then seconds after I noticed, it was changed to "seven". Whoever controls the page, they can't agree! But thanks again! Also, when I go to history, I don't find a record of who's making these changes, just older changes that seem to have to do with the format of the main page. Can I follow the changes to the main page?Jcblackmon (talk) 18:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

IP vandal warnings
Hi Julian, I noticed that when you warned at User talk:66.154.208.35 that you stepped back to a low level, but I'm not clear why. Is there some guidance on when to do this?LeadSongDog come howl  20:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I wondered if my mind was going....LeadSongDog come howl  20:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Relist AFD
Hi, do you mind relisting this AFD discussion on the deletion log? When I nominated it, I absent-mindedly forgot to do step 3, and as result the discussion has been hanging around for days with only one person commenting on it yesterday. BTW, please answer here. Wh ip it ! Now whip it good! 21:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 22:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 23:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Stephen A. Unger
I closed this as "keep" but the nominator is questioning the close. I told him I would have an administrator look it over and reopen it myself if he feels it needs further discussion. If you get a chance would you be so kind :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

FAC
Hi,


 * You said on WT:FAC that FAC needs major changes, but you didn't say what you had in mind... are your thoughts brief enough for a comment, or long enough for an essay? Seriously.
 * But there's no need to say "I wish people would stop ragging on roads and storms." That battle seems quite over, and you seem to have have won it decisively... though over-short articles can still attract criticism for other reasons... so, what are your thoughts? Ling.Nut (talk&mdash;WP:3IAR) 23:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Email, thou hast. Don't miss the comments below by someone else. Ling.Nut (talk&mdash;WP:3IAR) 02:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Relist AFD
Hi Julian, please kindly relist ZK_Framework_(2nd_nomination). in 2nd nomination, user Flaming Grunt voted twice. Not sure if it is fair? Would you please extend the nomination? And please review of talk page of ZK_Framework, there are many reference. But they don't participate this nomination. It's a pity that there are two published books about ZK, and it is deleted for not-notable. (talk)

@Julian, How do we begin another discussion? Please kindly provide help! Thanks! (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC).


 * The consensus wasn't clear to me, either the vote. Not sure why admin delete it. anyway, I've create a deletion review. Shall I invite the ZK community to support it? Robbiecheng (talk) 03:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of APD
Hi, The page for the Albany Police Department (New York) has been deleted citing copy right infringement and there is nothing left on the page. Since we are having some issues with the APD in Albany, the citizens are wondering about the timing of the removed page and why there is nothing on wikipedia about them any longer. Can you please assist? Thanks, Theresa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.152.175.237 (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Bulgaria–Paraguay relations
Hi. Could I please ask you about this closure? There were 4 delete votes and 1 "Weak, weak keep" (which I contested and was not rebutted about). But the remaining 3 keep votes had nothing to do with the merits of the article - they were of the "let's keep until the centralized discussion reaches a conclusion" (which may be never). My understanding of [{WP:DEL]] is that AfD participants should address the article at hand, not extraneous issues. - Biruitorul Talk 15:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

How long for...
..do I wait to apply for rollback again? --PirateSmackK (talk) 15:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Derek Trent Article
HUH??

Why on Earth would you revert my edits as "unconstructive"? Derek Trent and his skating partner, Tiffany Vise, have ended their partnership and he has retired from the sport (she has a new partner) - I referenced the information (it was reported today by US Figure Skating's website, icenetwork.com). So I updated his article accordingly to show that he has retired and Vise is no longer his partner and put the sentences about their partnership in the past tense, and you put it all back!

Read the referenced article next time before you put back information that is no longer correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.229.54 (talk) 21:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)