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Question about an assessment
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DYK for Go Princess Go
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My sandbox
The text (my English) is more right now, do you think that article is already to get in main space of the ENwiki? Dawid2009 (talk) 18:09, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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That when I see an article like Lie-to-children up for GA, my first thought is "is this another Cirt's work?". Keep it up! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, much appreciated! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 10:38, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Notability of article about TimeSheet software
Hi, you added question about notability of TimeSheet (software). Actually there are many such pages about similar software Comparison of time-tracking software. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buhram (talk • contribs) 05:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Re[2]: Notability of article about TimeSheet software

TimeSheet (software) has 4 reviews on different sites, many WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS from the page Comparison of time-tracking software has less sources or reviews.

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 * Keep: This artist is notable for many reasons. I think the page should be updated to include sources for his work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmdays12 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


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Vipshop
The article is incomplete i still working on it but i think it is notable, it was highest valued e-commerce company in china see: http://www.forbes.com/sites/hengshao/2013/11/26/meet-vipshop-the-highest-valued-chinese-e-commerce-stock/#48f17b643ea4 --Josef9 (talk) 17:42, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto-populating categories with wikidata
Hello Piotrus,

During the Wikimedia Hackathon (this weekend), I've been working on implementing a proof of concept for 2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories / T120439. For the example you gave (Polish skydivers), this is the current (rough) output:


 * pl:Kategoria:Polscy spadochroniarze                : Category:Polish skydivers
 * pl:Kategoria:Cichociemni                          : Category:Cichociemni
 * Maciej Kalenkiewicz                       : Maciej Kalenkiewicz
 * Hieronim Dekutowski                       : Hieronim Dekutowski
 * Jan Piwnik                                : Jan Piwnik
 * Stefan Bałuk                              : Stefan Bałuk
 * Stanisław Jankowski                       : Stanisław Jankowski
 * Leopold Okulicki                          : Leopold Okulicki
 * Adam Boryczka                             : Adam Boryczka
 * Franciszek Koprowski                      : Franciszek Koprowski
 * Bolesław Kontrym                          : Bolesław Kontrym
 * Adolf Pilch                               : Adolf Pilch
 * Władysław Kochański (oficer AK)           : Władysław Kochański
 * Kazimierz Iranek-Osmecki                  : Kazimierz Iranek-Osmecki
 * Cichociemni                               : Cichociemni
 * Marian Gołębiewski (żołnierz)             : Marian Gołębiewski (soldier)
 * Elżbieta Zawacka                          : Elżbieta Zawacka
 * Jan Nowak-Jeziorański                     : Jan Nowak-Jeziorański
 * Wacław Kopisto                            : Wacław Kopisto
 * Jan Rogowski (cichociemny)                : Jan Rogowski
 * pl:Kategoria:Osoby związane z cichociemnymi      : Category:Cichociemni
 * Jerzy Zubrzycki                           : Jerzy Zubrzycki
 * Lech Bądkowski                            : Lech Bądkowski
 * Tadeusz Chciuk-Celt                       : Tadeusz Chciuk-Celt
 * pl:Kategoria:Kurierzy i emisariusze rządu RP (1939–1945): Category:Cichociemni
 * Jan Nowak-Jeziorański                     : Jan Nowak-Jeziorański
 * Tadeusz Chciuk-Celt                       : Tadeusz Chciuk-Celt
 * Jerzy Lerski                              : Jerzy Jan Lerski
 * Józef Retinger                            : Józef Retinger
 * Jan Karski                                : Jan Karski
 * Kazimierz Iranek-Osmecki                  : Kazimierz Iranek-Osmecki

Is this indeed the kind of report you were looking for? For more details about the algorithm behind it, please see T120439. I'd appreciate any feedback! Valhallasw (talk) 09:25, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Re: Auto-populating categories with wikidata

 * Yes, my end goal would be something like a page with checkboxes and a button 'apply' (or maybe hooking into another tool that does the actual populating of categories). My main concern was whether this result set was actually what you expected and wanted, and it's good to hear it is!
 * After actually checking the Tools directory (which I really should have started with), I noticed . This provides a comparable service (but only one level deep). It integrates with hotcat for the actual category addition -- is that be good enough in terms of usability? It would be much easier to implement on my side than an actual bot to do the editing.
 * It will be a while before I have time to continue with this, but I'll keep you posted. Valhallasw (talk) 20:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK
Aye, Piotrus, long time, no see. I just nominated an article, Howard Henry Peckham, I created (April 7) for DYK. The nomination presents an interesting fact regarding American Revolutionary war deaths. If you have the time could you give it a review? Hope all is well, -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:18, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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RfC History of South America
Hi Piotrus, you may wish to comment. Kind regards -- Marek . 69    talk  02:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Piotrus/Sandbox/Dzikie Pola
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Topic (Asia) and Asia topic
Looks like Topic (Asia) is the basis for templates that navigate among articles with country names being used as the disambiguator. For example, Minister of Foreign Affairs (North Korea) uses the code  to link to Minister of Foreign Affairs (Sri Lanka), Minister of Foreign Affairs (Azerbaijan), etc.  Nyttend (talk) 13:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Bibliography / Citation work
Hello again, Piotrus. Just to be sure you know in case Casimir Pulaski is not on your watch list, I have begun doing major bibliography and citation work on this page. Things are pretty congested, and somewhat confusing to edit, but little by little (I'm also involved elsewhere) I'll be editing and cleaning up things on this page. May need your help on the Polish (language) sources -- we'll see. Cheers! -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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Polish prisoners and internees in the Soviet Union and Lithuania (1919–21)
Cite error since 2007.Xx236 (talk) 09:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Would you please correct? I don't know the cite.Xx236 (talk) 07:13, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Taxation in North Korea
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Infobox at Grand Duchy of Lithuania
Hello, Piotr. I've started a new discussion at Talk:Grand Duchy of Lithuania on fixing (not removing) the infobox on the Grand Duchy of Lithuania article. Since you defended the infobox before and hinted at fixing it in 2012, I wanted to bring it to your attention. Your contribution would be most welcome. No longer a penguin (talk) 13:55, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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Could you help me with Zdzisław Piernik ???
Hellou Piotrus – I am writing because I think that you could be a right person to help me - recently I wanted to put there a translation from Polish Wikipedia about Zdzisław Piernik - Polish virtuoso tuba player – but "some people" deleted this, marking as a "copyright violation" - I do not think that is proper, which I tried to proove in the discussion @ my talk page, but with no effect... or even will of discussion... my sandbox with trying to correct some issues were also deleted...  maybe you have any idea ? Polish Contemporary Music (and "some other subjects") are Definitively Underrepresented here... → veriKami (talk) 09:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help! I think that Zdzisław Piernik (among many other entries related to the Polish culture) truly deserves the English-language entry. He, as the only Pole, is mentioned on (not so long) list of Lifetime Achievement Honorees of ITEA (International Tuba Euphonium Association):


 * http://www.iteaonline.org/members/history/history_index.php?page=lifetime%20achievement


 * ...and, as I see, it is also in preparation an article on the first page of ITEA.


 * So, personally, I would rather question "how" than "if" – and certainly not delete the entry with questionable justification and lack of substantive discussion... Unfortunately – because I'm quite new here and this is my first attempt – I see that it turns to be too difficult... → veriKami (talk) 07:05, 5 May 2016 (UTC)


 * And – Thans Again !!! I have recovered version in my sandbox, so now it is possible to discuss eventual copyright violations and to finish this entry. This is Great News !!! → veriKami (talk) 09:26, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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Perhaps you'll now concur, Re: Robert N. Clinton, Indian-country justice & al.
Articles_for_deletion/Robert_N._Clinton --Jerzy•t 05:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Delete. As written, fails WP:NCOMPANY and seems like puffed-up spam
I have added some citation link to Promo Direct page. Kindly review Susan (talk). —Preceding undated comment added 10:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I see you're still around
Hi! Commons and I need a quick fix with your language knowledge. Can you Glean anything from the legend that can be added to the info block? Looks to me this was likely produced by the Polish Government in exile, and IIR, my history, the Monte Casino campaign involved Polish Troops along side (my uncle!) and the US 5th Army. I suspect that means it was {PD-US} produced for the Polish forces, but I can't read the language. Warm regards, Fra nkB 20:51, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * On the flip side, what is Poland's copyright period. 75 years would do for a private document in the US, but the prominence on this is something I can't read. If it's under period fine, but this would be too young to be PD in the US unless it was government produced.
 * On other news, did a big purchase last week of kindle edition books in the 1632 series, so may catch up a bit. I believe, (I think I recall) you asked back when I was in hospital&mdash;the last time we swapped emails.

re: your reply: (dup)


 * Yeah, I know how the series was wearing. If it weren't mostly in ebook form now, I'd still not bother trying to catch up. Weber's snail-pace has me looking for some new fiction and I found a group of those in my Amazon wish list so put them in my cart. Agree with you about the 'Nationalistic' parochialism's... sub-conscience bias is a powerful thing I think! OTOH, we both know the target market is American first, so marketing to stereotypes is not too surprising. Not doing so requires more work and due diligence. The other thing I got annoyed with was the opposition was often presented as more straw man than realistic.
 * I'm a figment of your imagination. Or slumming? Truth is I've been doing some historical research and reading for a large Trainz project and couldn't not fix up some related articles here. The kids (like you my young friend) <g> mostly have no contextual perspective. Things happening decades apart get jumbled into the same sentences &mdash; which given leadership changes over a decade or two, is far much too much tightening of the prose. (Sorry, pet peeve!) Stay well! You still in the Orient? Fra nkB 13:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Huonekalu- ja Rakennustyötehdas
Should be fine now, though now I feel that maybe it should just be renamed to Korhonen Factory company and just list those unpronouncable Finnish names at the bottom somewhere - especially since they seem to rename it now and then. Jane (talk) 09:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Removed the template. Jane (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Social topic in South Korea
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Category:World topic navigational boxes might also be useful to find potential topics to create red links for. --211.30.17.74 (talk) 00:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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Your proposition to have the Article on Rosette Wolczak in the DYK feature
Hi Piotrus, thanks for making me aware of the Did You Know feature. Do I have to put the article there myself? Can I cite you as a refenrence ? I am very knew on the anglophone wikipedia, and I basically translate articles allready written in French. In this case I am also the author of the French version. ;-)--Nattes à chat (talk) 07:48, 23 May 2016 (UTC) PS so I did fill out the nomination template, hope I've done it correctly. Thanks.--Nattes à chat (talk) 07:59, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Piotrus, i've completed the "that..." part. Does it seem ok to you? Thanks for your help. There's is a banner on the article mentioning it as an orphan, although it seems to me it is linked with internal blue links. What should I do?--Nattes à chat (talk) 07:40, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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Response to DYK comment
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I see that you regularly try to impose your own personal conditions ("please explain how it meets them on the talk page in the form of "This article meets criteria A and B because..." and ping me back") on people contesting your WP:PROD deletion tags, that have no basis in policy or guidelines. Such action is very likely to be counter-productive, in that it makes it look as if you are ignorant of the way that WP:PROD is supposed to work, and so people will remove the tags even if they are valid. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 21:06, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear anon. PROD requires a valid explanation to be provided. I am just reminding people of the rules per WP:DEPROD. They don't have to notify me, it is just a courtesy. Like, you know, signing in rather then hiding behind an anonymous throw away "don't talk back to me" IP address. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:06, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The rules per WP:DEPROD say, "You are encouraged, but not required...". And thanks for assuming good faith. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 18:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

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Wikidata category tool
Hi Piotrus,

I've been really busy the last month, but I've been able to make some progress, mostly into making the tool available on-line. It's not working completely as intended yet, but you can see the progress at http://tools.wmflabs.org/wdcat/process/html?from=plwiki&to=enwiki&wdcat=9649201. Most importantly, it still needs to check whether the page on the target wiki already has the most relevant category applied. There's also no user interface yet -- the only way to select wikis is by manually filling in the wiki and the Q-number for the category (in this case Q9649201). Note that it can be really slow to run at times, but results should appear after a few minutes. Valhallasw (talk) 14:55, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Interviews

 * I'm currently in a S-storm for participating in policy discussion, as a part time paid editor, which is why I'm responding here. I've encountered instances at AfC/AfD where the local consensus is that interviews cannot be used at all for notability -- sometimes even as courtesy references. In my mind, the interview is one of the most important tools in journalism, else the writer would have to be present at the event to report on it -- making the coverage primary. Some interviews are fluff, but the independent publisher always maintains editorial control, the quoted materials are primary (sometimes usable under WP:SELFSOURCE) and the interviewer's analysis (such as the opening/close including the flow of the questions asked) should be considered WP:ANALYSIS. Additionally, the subject's name is often in the title of the interview, where the publisher maintains editorial control. Some of the most celebrated journalist in the world are interviewers, this local consensus is another area deletionist have skewed the Wikipedia beyond repair I'm afraid.009o9Disclosure(Talk) 18:28, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

AfD proposal Comment
Hi Piotr - would you mind taking a quick look at Articles for deletion/White allies? If you agree with the proposal, I think we'll have a consensus. Thanks. -- IamNotU (talk) 00:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Saverio Fabbri still exists
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The "Piotr Konieczny"?
Hello to you,

Are you by any chance related to Dr. Piotr Konieczny, that once wrote this article?

Peace, 20:51, 24 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mateo (talk • contribs)
 * Yes, that's me :) --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:30, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That is such a Coincidence...
 * Happy to meet you! Allow me to introduce myself. My name Is Mateo Cohen. I'm a student at OUI. Im an honored student (if that means anything). I'm researching "Wikipedia's practices in Israel" with the assumption that it's a social movement.
 * Your article was the first one that came up that suggests such an assumption for further reaserch. In one of the chapters i investigate Wikipedia's "resource mobilization techniques in Israel". And as i randomly checks who wrote the entery i found out it's Dr. Konieczny!
 * Bellisima!
 * 11:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC) Mateo (talk) 11:59, 25 May 2016 (UTC) (Having trouble with the signiture)
 * I am glad you found it of interest :) --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed I have. The fact that the community refers to itself and to it's organizations as part "a movement" helps as well. But it appears that Wikipedia has more then one quality that challenge the SM/SMO line of thinking. In addition to resource mobilization i also use new social movement theory. Nonetheless I find it's still difficult to reach hypothesis, or even a firm opinion, on the relation between a wiki community (for example "hebwiki+wikimedia chapter in israel") and a national community ("israelis"). Do you know of any comprehensive research about Wikipedia as a social movement?


 * Good blessings upon you, 11:09, 26 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mateo (talk • contribs)
 * I don't think anyone has followed up on my argument there. What is the relation between local wiki community and national community is a broad topic; one that would be interesting to investigate. On my to-do list there is a paper on nationalism and Wikipedia, but no idea when I'll get to writing it. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:32, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Dr Konieczny 7 years since you made the link (during the same time the community did so so as well) and no one has made the effort to follow through?? That's crazy! But you know, I think it's true. The term "Social movement" doesn't appear even once at Wikipedia's List of PRP. Even the word "movement" appears in just one case. I did encounter other authors tough that like yourself connect Wikipedia to FOSSM. Are you interested in details?
 * Relating Nationalism (or any other political Ideology) to Wikipedia would surely strengthen the "social movement" theme. I'm interested weather you refer to "traditional" nationalism (language based wikipedia irredenta) or a kind of new "wikinationalism" where the community blocks itself from Newbies to form some kind of "virtual state" with boundaries? Also, if no one has continued to deepen the political study of Wiki, could you share what sources are you going to use? Mateo (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I would certainly be interested in learning what other citations to Wikipedia as a social movement you found. Regarding nationalism, I indeed mean classic nationalism, based on country/language/etc. Regarding sources, well, I haven't thought much but studying users involved in some nationalism-related heated disputes which could be identified through WP:ARBITRATION case archive may be the way to do it. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:42, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes so first of all i think it's important to clear from the get go I looked only at web available books and academic articles, either through Google Scholar, My academy's search engine or regular Google search.
 * Now from what I did find, it's possible to see articles dealing with social movements that use Wikipedia. It's rare to find articles using social movement research to explain something in wikipedia. But it's almost impossible to find a research on Wikipedia as a social movement.
 * So far your article is the only one that suggests it. That's why i taught you may have an idea where to search further?


 * Anyway the earliest connection between social movement research and wikipedia was made to understand why people contribute to the project. Quantitative research by Anthony (2005), Kuznetsov (2006) and Schroer & Hertel (2007) all build from a social- movement research base.
 * Articles that flirt with SM theory do exist, mostly without direct connection or with relation to FOSS movement. For example in Katcz (eds. 2011) "A Wikipedia Reader" one article asks weather Wikipedia "confirms sociologist Robert Michels’ Iron law of oligarchy". (Morrell, M.F. p 339).
 * Another one cites a blog saying "‘The central idea behind Wikipedia is that it is an important part of an emerging mass movement aimed at the “democratization of knowledge”'.(Reagle, J. p 21.)
 * A third one deals with wikipedia's administration and argues it "resembles free software movements’ ‘bottom-up’ design  for  content." (Currie, M. p 342).


 * That's it. That's all i found thus far and it's clear that's not a lot. I find the absence of a clear connection between the line of study and wikipedia as a case study quite peculiar, considering everybody is aware that Wikimedia is not for profit, and the slogan above all project refers to a better world where every human can share in the total sum of knowledge.
 * perhaps it says something about SM research, and it's relevance in the 21st century. That's one question i try to deal with in my own research.
 * Basically what I'm doing is running Wikipedia through a series of classic SM theory classifications, trying to find it's genealogy. Then using resource mobilization theory to look at the ways the wiki organization (wikimedia+wiki projects) mobilizes resources in Israel. But this gives me nothing on the community, so I'm using NSM theory to look at that, by comparing English wiki's Core principles and roles to the Hebrew ones. It's amazing how culture affects the development of different wiki's. But this still says nothing on the connection between Wikipedia's community and the Three dimensional world. Furthermore I'm not sure SM theory can deal with the new development on technology and globalization. Wikipeida is one unique case and so that's where i need to look at new ways to research it.


 * I tried to make this take as brief as i possible, so it wont waste too much of you time. I'm looking forward to read your response. If there is any direction you think could help me, i would be honored to listen.


 * With much appreciation, 21:39, 3 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mateo (talk • contribs)

WikiProject Political parties
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Template:Did you know nominations/Korean Patriotic Organization
Hi, I don't think your student understand my comments. I listed a few examples of ungrammatical sentences, and he thought that they were grammatical, so he left them in the article. The entire article needs a copyedit. Best, Yoninah (talk) 11:06, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

proposed deletion of Selva Pankj
Hello, I wrote this article and most of the references are in web pages that users need to login first. Ex: Fellowship of the Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce. What am I to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tharindus (talk • contribs) 06:12, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Rule 184
If you're going to add new ratings to pages, can you at least pay some attention to the quality of the pages and the ratings that were already there? Rule 184 is GA-class, very far from start. Rule 90 is also not start-class; it could be B or C, I'm not sure which. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Political globalization
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Research on banned editors
Hi. I am interested in the comments you made here about earlier research you have done. Could you email it to me? Kingsindian &#9821; &#9818; 15:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, but I don't know your email and Wikipedia email does not support attachments. You have to email me first so I can send back the attachment.--<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  01:39, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Email sent. Kingsindian &#9821; &#9818; 01:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Seoul Forest
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IBM DB2 Express-C
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I deprodded 4in6
Hi Piotrus,

With a simple WP:BEFORE style search I was able to find a number of in-depth references, added to the article. Those along with the fact that is part of a international standard, makes this topic likely notable. --Mark viking (talk) 19:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Deprod, again
Hi Piotrus,

I deprodded DREAM (protocol). A simple WP:BEFORE search shows that this protocol is quite notable. The original paper was cited more than 1800 times, and a GScholar search for DREAM routing yielded more than 22,000 hits. The first four review articles from that search all discussed DREAM in some depth and have been added to the article. GBooks no doubt has more sources. I know you as a careful editor, so I urge you to take a some care in searching before determining a topic is non-notable. --Mark viking (talk) 21:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Another deprod
Hi Piotrus,

I deprodded Next Hop Resolution Protocol after easily finding and adding many reliable secondary sources discussing the protocol. As in the previous section, this is a topic with hundreds of hits both in GBooks and GScholar; this was not even close to not-notable. Generally, if a protocol is the subject IETF RFCs, multiple sources have likely written about it. --Mark viking (talk) 03:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lost sales
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The Bold and the Beautiful characters
I have deprodded articles on characters in The Bold and the Beautiful. I agree these are probably not independently notable but they should be considered for a merge into The Bold and the Beautiful or The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2015) or any number of articles associated with this popular program. Please respect WP:BEFORE for your future prods. ~Kvng (talk) 14:47, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Bob Skeat
Deprodded. Another case where there is an obvious merge target (Wishbone Ash). Please consider merging WP:BEFORE proposing deletion. If you don't beleive a merge is feasible, please state the reason for that as part of your deletion reason. If you are unable to do the merge yourself, consider adding merge or other tags or just leaving things alone. ~Kvng (talk) 14:53, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't believe vanity articles like this should be left alone, through I think User:MSJapan's redirect is a good compromise. Perhaps in the future I'll just redirect such articles, since it seems that your activities make prodding close to broken. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Per WP:ATD, WP:BLAR is preferred over deletion. Rest assured there are still a healthy number of articles being deleted through prod. I've never deproded more than 25% and often it is much less than that. ~Kvng (talk) 14:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Korean Patriotic Organization
Hello! Your submission of Korean Patriotic Organization at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 15:00, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion Combined Heat and Power Quality Assurance
Hi, when I created the short article about the Combined Heat and Power Quality Assurance scheme I (perhaps naively) hoped others would expand it. I don't think the page as it stands is particularly noteworthy and so do not object to its deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yekwah (talk • contribs) 08:15, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Korean Patriotic Organization
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Dear Professor
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DYK nomination of Korean student movement
Hello! Your submission of Korean student movement at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

TKS for DYK
Hello Piotrus, thank you for your welcome and encouragement. I have had a go at nominating the article for the front page. However, I am not very familiar with writing in code, so I may have missed things out. I am also somewhat embarrassed at a self-nomination. If you can help, I would be most grateful. Should there be a second EU Referendum in the UK, the article could be topical. Kind regards, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 15:15, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello Piotrus, thank you for your help. Alas, I do not understand what issues Bluemoonset would like me to fix. Do I take out the links for Central Bank etc. and create an ALT2? This is very advanced for me! Best wishes, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 10:52, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Ok, Piotus, I'll wait for Gerda to explain. Thank you! --Po Kadzieli (talk) 11:15, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Re: referencing. I'm beginning to get it, having glanced at your articles on the matter. Because TKS is so new to historical research, the only extensive third party source at the moment, is Professor Radosław Żurowski vel Grajewski's postface in the Polish/French edition of Szymanowski's work on Europe issued by MSZ in Warsaw in 2015. The postface (posłowie) is likewise in Polish and French. It provides biographical detail and an essay on Szymanowski's contribution in the light of other 19th c. writers on the subject of a united Europe. Should I attach the MSZ publication link? Best wishes, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 11:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Wildlife of South Korea
Piotrus, you might want to take a look at this nomination; there hasn't been any response to it, and something will need to be done soon. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:18, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Internet Open Trading Protocol
I have deprodded. It was not difficult to find sources for this using a simple search which you should do WP:BEFORE proposing deletion. ~Kvng (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:51, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Student movements in Korea
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Jan Pfeffer - Johann Pfeffer
The Polish version was written by the same person (main account Messina). The user has used hundreds (!) of sockpuppets on many different language versions to evade his global ban. He created the previous version of Jan Pfeffer which was deleted for the same reason I proposed its deletion now. This criterion is listed as WP:Criteria for speedy deletion. I have now nominated the article for regular deletion. --Schulhofpassage (talk) 13:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The article has been deleted per my original deletion criterion. --Schulhofpassage (talk) 13:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * While I agree the article was dubious and might be a hoax (I had trouble verifing refs,, ), I do not believe the deletion criteria used was valid. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * thank you --Frou34 (talk) 14:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)




 * look for Jana Pfeffera z Królewca here https://www.google.de/#q=Jana+Pfeffera+z+Kr%C3%B3lewca


 * Bartoszyce. Z dziejów miasta i okolic. Wyd. drugie zmienione. Wyd. Pojezierze, Olsztyn 1987, 480 str., ISBN 83-7002-239-1
 * Kościoły i kaplice Archidiecezji Warmińskiej, tom II. Kuria Metropolitalna Archidiecezji Warmińskiej, Olsztyn 1999, ISBN 83-912605-0-X
 * Rodnowo: kościół z XIV wieku [3]
 * Johann Pfeffer. In: Ulrich Thieme, Felix Becker u. a.: Allgemeines Lexikon der Bildenden Künstler von der Antike bis zur Gegenwart. Band 26. E. A. Seemann, Leipzig 1932, S. 526.
 * Anton Ulbrich: Johannes Pfeffer. Der Altaraufsatz in der evangelischen Kirche zu Cumehnen in Samland = Johannes Pfeffer. The altar in the protestant church to Cumehnen in Samland . in: Anton Ulbrich:Geschichte der Bildhauerkunst in Ostpreußen vom Ende des 16. Jahrhunderts bis gegen 1870 = History of sculpture in East Prussia from the 16th century to around 1870, Königsberg 1926-1929, p. 249-270 (Digitalisat).
 * thank you; racism isn't good. Good bye --HelloFrie56 (talk) 01:30, 30 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.209.115.8 (talk)
 * I am sorry, but I have trouble veryfing the content of those refs. Could you scan at least one page, preferably in Polish, from one of those sources and link it for me for verification? If I can verify that the subject existed in at least one of your sources, I will ask for the article's undeletion. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)


 *  Witaj Przyjaciel :-) 


 * Thieme-Becker
 * http://www.degruyter.com/databasecontent?dbid=akl&dbsource=%2Fdb%2Fakl
 * http://www.adk.de/de/archiv/bibliothek/LD_AKL.htm
 * Anton Ulbrich
 * http://www.eromm.org/use_eromm-eromm_search?term=ulbrich+bildhauerkunst
 * "Jana Pfeffera z Królewca
 * " https://www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22Jana+Pfeffera+z+Kr%C3%B3lewca+%22
 * https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%9Bci%C3%B3%C5%82_pw._Matki_Boskiej_Szkaplerznej_w_Rodnowie ** https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukowiec_(powiat_bartoszycki)
 * http://diec.mazurska.luteranie.pl/pl/biuletyn/koscioly-wykaz/bukowiec.htm
 * http://goldap.org.pl/2013/06/kosciol-pelen-tajemnic-raz-jeszcze/
 * http://www.bukowiec.11-220.wsiepolskie.pl/
 * http://www.katalog-stron-internetowych.mragowo.pl/c-Wikipedysta:J%C3%B3zefO/Jan_Pfeffer.cgi
 * pozdrowienia

Johann Pfeffer Johann Pfeffer (or Johannes Pfeffer) was a German sculptor born in Königsberg (now Kaliningrad), active 1668–1687. He sculpted the portal of the Königsberg Castle (1669) and the main altar of Kumehnen Church (1676). He made many sculpted altars and pulpits for other churches in East Prussia:


 * 1668: altar in the Church in Neuroßgarten (Russian: Ной-Россгартенская кирха).
 * 1668: pulpit in the Church of Logwino (Russian: Логвино, German: Medenau).
 * 1668: pulpit in the Church of Kotelnikowo (Russian: Котельниково, German: Wargen).
 * 1670: pulpit in the Church of Russkoje (Russian: Русское, German: Germau).
 * 1660/1670: pulpit and altar in the Church of Górowo Iławeckie (Russian: Гурово-Илавецке, German: Landsberg).
 * 1672: altar in the Church of Kotelnikowo (Russian: Котельниково, German: Wargen).
 * 1673: pulpit and altar in the Church of Jushny (Russian: Южный, German: Jesau).
 * 1676: pulpit in the Church of Baltiysk (Russian: Балти́йск, German: Pillau).
 * 1676: pulpit and altar in the Church of Rjabinowka (Russian: Рябиновка, German: Schmoditten).
 * 1676/1677: pulpit in the Church of the Altrossgarten Church (Russian: Альт-Россгартенская кирха).
 * 1676/77: altar in the Church of Bartoszyce (Russian: Бартошице, German: Bartenstein).
 * 1676/77: Lengthy epitaph and gravestone for Hans Christoph von Schlobhut in the Church of Bartoszyce (Russian: Бартошице, German: Bartenstein).
 * 1677: Lengthy epitaph and gravestone for Johannes Soher in the Church of Baltiysk (Russian: Балти́йск, German: Pillau).
 * 1677: pulpit in the Church of Sovetsk (Russian: Сове́тск, German: Tilsit).
 * 1680: altar in the Church of Ushakovo (Russian: Ушако́во, German: Brandenburg am frischen Haff or Brandenburg in Ostpreußen).
 * 1680: altar in the Church of Shemtshushnoye/Shaaken (Russian: Жемчужное/Шаа́кен, German: Schaaken).
 * 1680: altar in the Church of Bagrationovsk (Russian: Багратио́новск, German: Preußisch Eylau).
 * 1681: altar in the Church of Druschba (Russian: Дрýжба, German: Allenburg).
 * 1681: altar in the Church of Sokolica (Russian:Соколика, German: Falkenau).
 * 1682: altar in the Church of Marianka (Paslęk) (Russian:Марянка (Па́сленк), German: Marienfelde (Preußisch Holland)).
 * 1683: altar in the Church of Poretschje (Russian: Поречье, German: Allenau).
 * 1683: pulpit and altar in the Church of Żabin (Russian: Жабин, German: Schabienen).
 * 1683: pulpit and altar in the Church of Rodnowo (Russian: Родново, German: Reddenau).
 * 1687: altar in the Church of Dobry (Godkowo) (Döbern Preußisch Holland).

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 * Thank you for all. Would you translate the polish article into English ? My articles will be speedy deleted thanks --JózefO20 (talk) 16:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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for user:adamt in polish Wikipedia für Kneiphöfisches Rathaus

 * https://archive.org/stream/diebauundkunstd00boetgoog#page/n368/mode/2up
 * Adolf Boetticher: ''Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler der Provinz Ostpreußen. Heft VII. Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler in Konigsberg, Königsberg 1897, s. 349-355,
 * he has the wrong link --MateuszTga (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Spamfilter ?
the articles about the town halls in Konigsberg in polish Wikipedia have a spamfilter. Nobody can elaborate them --MateuszTga (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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Guten Tag, ich sehe mich als Opfer einer Verleumdungskampagne und einer Diskriminierung. Der Bann erfolgte nicht wegen Fehler im Inhalt, sondern weil ich mich juristisch gegen meine (mE antijüdischen, rechtsextremistischen und rassistischen deutschen) Mobber wehrte. So habe ich diese u.a. beim Landeskriminalamt und Verfassungsschutz angezeigt. Glauben Sie mir, niemand mehr wird in der polnischen Wikipedia etwas über deutsche Kulturgeschichte schreiben. Dass diese ganzen Gebäude: Rathäuser in den Stadtteilen Königsberg wie Löbenicht, Altstadt und Kneiphof, Schloss- und Krönungskirche in Königsberg nicht auf polnisch geschrieben waren...ist an sich schon ein Armutszeugnis. Wenn man bedenkt, dass sonst sehr viele Bildhauer, die dort wirkten auf polnisch verewigt wurden und sonst Polen bekannt ist für seine online Kulturgeschichtl. Lexicas über Ermland-Masuren und seine herrlichen Rekonstruktionen wie das Warschauer Schloss, Schloss Malbork, Schloss Szezin etc.

P.S. Ich habe übrigens nicht die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit.

mfg

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Clan of Ostoja

 * Greetings! I have been gone from editing for a while but soon back to it. I have a question about the art. - it was renamed to "Heraldic family Ostoja" and I dont know how to undo that in simple way. Person that changed it (he never posted message or discussed, simply did his way) seems not be so active, although I wrote message to him. The name "Heraldic family" is a term that is often used and refere to pl: "Ród herbowy". However, its not always correct to apply that term. Partly yes but in this case it is completetly wrong. First, because Ostoja was used by families before there was any CoA, used as Battle Cry. Second, for the definition "Klan", see Polish Wiki: Klan (celt. clan) – ród spokrewnionych lub spowinowaconych ze sobą osób lub też związek osób wspierających się i mających wspólne interesy. The main argument is of course cooperation and integration of Ostoja families - this is very central part of the article! Clan members where strongly related to each other - similar is in other Clans (see for ex. PL Wiki: "Wojna Grzymalitów z Nałęczami"). Adoptions in Middle ages did not change that.


 * Later, narration changed and in publication we see more of "Ród heraldyczny". However, this narration was harmful since it removed Clan history and unity from history books and where replaced with narration that there where just families that used same or similar CoA. Of course, unity between families was not so strong in 19th century as it was in 15th or earlier but its still there, that why some publication used such terms - but its not correct for the artikle and does not apply on any Clan history, but simply as term that was used in 18-19th century and later. Modern historians go back to usage of terms that refere to Clans and not "Heraldic families". In that way we try to remove this "false" narration bringing back knowledge about the Clans as it should be presented.


 * Term "Heraldic family" can be used when writing about CoA. Basically, because of many families that changed CoA, that where included (often on false documents) to the Clan in 17th, 18th or 18th century, sometimes CoA was named variation of XXX CoA, but in reality it was specyfic family CoA that was just named XXX because it had monn in CoA. Horrifying practice in terms of heraldry but, in Poland they did so. In the end, there where sometimes so many families that where not related to Clan or Clan history, that we see publikactions where narration turn to "Heraldic families" - that basically had nothing else in common. In this way, I think its correct to use such term. In Ostoja, I can verify more than 80% of families whre their roots go back to middle ages and where Clan unity and coorporation was still very strong. If we use term "Heraldic family", such narration completely remove the soul of the Clans and give wrong picture of historical facts. Its like erazing history - ripe of the heart, the soul, identity, whats inside and leaave only empty shell. Transfering Clan to Pokemon!


 * Could You please help me to undo this terrible act an rename the article to what it was before - Clan of Ostoja? If I do that, Im not sure I will do in correct way so I dont loose anything. The rest of changes this person did, I already changed back. Many thanks in advance! Best regards, Camil. camdan (talk) 16:09, 7 August 2016 (CEST)


 * I don't find camdan's argument convincing. If it is as he says—if kinship, not coat-of-arms, was the important thing—then why include the coat-of-arms in the article?  But if the article's title is to be changed as he suggests, it should not be to "Clan of Ostoja" but to "Clan Ostoja".  Nihil novi (talk) 05:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok, I push the question of renaming art. back to its correct name. My suggestion to Nihil Novi for the future is to avoid controversial changes without consulting issue. Art Heraldic family need significant improvement so please work on that one instead - specially sources in that art. are of very poor quality. Ostoja is Battle Cry that later become name CoA - but not just CoA as it is often used in surnames, for example Profesor Ostoja-Zagorski, Profesor Ostoja-Starzewski, Profesor Ostoja-Lniski, senator Ostoja-Owsiany - it also tell about Clan identity and not only CoA! Before CoA, there was a proto crest, a sign that was used before heraldic time. Profesor Piech is the one that research this on Jagiellonian University. As stated in art. Read about "Klan" on pl:Wiki - its all there. Official Ostoja Clan site tell "Clan". Ostoja DNA project use "Clan"  (co-administrator Lukasz Lapinski, phd in Polish history). Why include CoA? To show the origin of the Clan - to tell that it evolved from the Battle Cry, to forward sarmatian signs and Draco - its absolutely correct to show also heraldic CoA and the origin of the Clan. There is so much more to do on en:Wiki. Forcing change is just not necessary and waste of time. Now "Clan of Ostoja" to "Clan Ostoja" - OMG, it can be either "Clan Ostoja", "Ostoja Clan" or "Clan of Ostoja" - all correct. When creating the article, I named it "Clan of Ostoja" and thats it. Usage of term "Heraldic family" is kind of populistic specially in post-communistic Poland but past 10 years a lot have changed in narration when talking about scientific research. Actually, usage of "Heraldic family" is very complicated. I would link it to art about CoA, not to art. about Polish Clans since Polish Clans have often history long time before any heraldry was used. "Heraldic families" is a list of families that used certain CoA and if we go back to 16th century, there was no such term. This term was created much later and because of certain reasons where the scientific research on subject was not really scientific. Difference between art. "Clan of Ostoja" and "Ostoja CoA" is clear. In the art about the Clan, I forward Clan history. In the art. about CoA, I list all families that are verified using Ostoja CoA (based on proper documents) and in this case, not all of the families belonged to the Clan and since maybe as much as 20% of families did not belong to the Clan, is possible to apply term "Heraldic family". In that way we can separate subjects. Research about Clan is of completely different nature than research about "Heraldic family". In case of Clans, we research origin, links forming, adopting, Clan structure, integration between families through centuries, nests, georgafical settlements in groups, moving from one group to other group and so on. In case of "Heraldic families" we research 17-19th century documents, look for errors, define why and how they signed CoA not being Clan members (lot of studies are about documents during time of Partition, specially of Russian administration). I hope this explain. camdan (talk) 10:24, 8 August 2016 (CEST)

Heraldry and genealogy issues

 * I have not been editing for a while so I checked few articles, started to edit some in art. Polish heraldry, necessary to add citations and do some work to improve although it does not look to bad. Then I jumped to art. House of Odrowąż - first time I see Polish clan use term "House of..." but in the way art. is constructed it seems correct! Interesting. Not possible to apply on all Clans, for example not possible to apply on Ostoja but maybe on some other like "Pałuka". Then I see another art. called "House of Szydłowiecki" - here I have split feeling. Maybe it should be good to make guidlines for the future? Otherwise we will soon see art. "House of Kowalski". It might be in contrast to "House of Romanov". Maybe discussion in subject so all that are interested can participate? camdan (talk) 17:59, 9 August 2016 (CEST)
 * IMO "House of..." creates a good deal of confusion in Polish issues, especially in older times. In particular, there is mix/match between House of Odrowąż and Odrowąż coat of arms in the senses of "noble family" vs. "ród herbowy". Bearing in mind in these times the concept of "surname" was murky. For example, Jan Sprowski (Jan ze Sprowy) herbu Odrowąż was "procrusticated" into the brain of an Englishman as "John Odrowąż from Sprowa". or "Jakub Dembiński  herbu Odrowąż" - I am not sure that "Jacob Odrowąż  from  Dębna" would be correct. While "Odrowążowie" might be kinda "clan" originally, but herbowni of Odrowąż coat of arms is not what understood under the term "clan" Staszek Lem (talk) 18:41, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


 * You are right Staszek Lem that its all very confusing! :) Yes, but its possible to sort it right! "House of Odrowaz", Odrowaz Clan, Odrowaz CoA and more. Odrowaz CoA is ONLY heraldic issue - its science, see that everything is correct in 1/100 of milimeter in question of pure heraldry. We have experts in Poland that know NOW (even if Professor Szymanski CoA paniter did not). Then - We have either Family or House so XXX family or House of XXX. I would propose that it depends on status of the family not that its right or wrong but simply because of what common people associate with. "House of" is big, and in this particular case, Odrowaz was at the time big. But - applying "House of..." need also guidlines. So...in one way, "House of..." is correct for some Clans (but for example not Ostoja). However, there is a problem - where to draw the line between House and Family? I think that House of Odrowaz is just brilliant!!! Why? Because it tell about the facts how other nations in Europe and people saw us once in the time (common picture of great, cultivated and intellectual high and free) and some still do. I se much of this in Germany, in Sweden or even in Italy - very little in Poland. Clue of the problem of understanding history and present camdan (talk) 22:27, 9 August 2016 (CEST)


 * I also added that "ród" refer both to "family" and to "Clan". In 12-13th century "Ród Odrowążów" refer to family Odrowąż, since all family members are blood related and represent one single family. But in 17th century, same expression "Ród Odrowążów" refer to clan, because not all families are blood related to each other. Furtheremore, in modern terms (right or wrong), term "ród" is applied on both single family and on clan (Ród Kowalskich and Ród Odrowążów). camdan (talk) 10:56, 10 August 2016 (CEST)


 * Few weeks ago I had some interesting discussion with historians (good lesson for me). I posted input on last Polish King Poniatowski. Got answer that such person did not exist. What? Stanislaw August Poniatowski. - No! Ok, on pl:wiki its Stanislaw August Poniatowski. Wrong. On sv:wiki its Stanislaw II August Poniatowski - wrong, there was never Stanislaw II. I then refered to Polish dictionary (Encyklopedia PWN) and it tell Stanisław August Poniatowski. Wrong again! So what is correct spelling then? Correct is Stanisław August Rex. Prof. Mietelski claim that there was "Moscic z Wielkiego Kozmina", voivode of Poznan in 13th century. Wrong, such person never existed. The point is that there is so much errors and false interpretations, bad narrations that it is almost impossible to normal person to know what is correct and what is not. In such way Ostoja CoA have been described and painted wrong for 400 years! So, either we try to forward correct terms and spelling or we continue to forward articles that are not correct, like "Heraldic family". Can You propose some good place to discuss this issue Piotrus? Discussing on Your talk page might not be proper? camdan (talk) 11:23, 10 August 2016 (CEST)
 * I'd suggest copying this entire discussion to either the talk page of WikiProject Poland or WikiProject Heraldry and cc-ing the other. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:39, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I send those questions to Polish Nobility Association and highly skilled historians. As soon as I will get an answer from Adam Pszczolkowski, I will copy the answer and post. camdan (talk) 14:16, 10 August 2016 (CEST)


 * Ok, almost done - --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here, please check my post on WikiProject Heraldry camdan (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2016 (CEST)


 * I talked to another person that research heraldry and genealogy of the Clans, also through DNA to see if there is kinship. He say that both Heraldic Clan and Clan are correct and that choice depends on what the art. want to forward. As the art. look now, he would rather choose Clan. But its really difficult question. On the good side is that both experts say Clan instead of family and also say that House of XXX is correct when it refer to polish Dom. Generall opinion on Clans is that most of them origin from one family, a House. But not all. Another historian say that that if the Clan inculde several different families that are not blood releted with each other, it's automatically Heraldic clan. So there is no consensus. Each Clan is different so its hard to make general rule. For Ostoja I would propose Clan before Heraldic clan because of the narration. Then add inside the art about the Heraldic Clan. camdan (talk) 117:37, 11 August 2016 (CEST)

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DaHeala
Please do not delete hours of work without properly explaining the format issues. I copied the exact same format as another similar page. The information is factual, you can edit the format yourself. Please revise the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiggamafu (talk • contribs) 18:17, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I have no idea why you are messaging me, I have never edited this article before seeing this message. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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CSS Corp proposed deletion
Hello Piotrus i received a message about article CSS Corp being proposed for deletion, could you please explain to me why ? request you to help me with abiding by Wiki guidelines to ensure page is not deleted.

Thank you

Hi piotrus, here are a few references/ Notability cases that apply to CSS Corp.

please ref WP:AUD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AUD - - css corp has worked in wildlife conservation and has been covered by local media in karnataka,

News about CSS Corp has appeared in leading publications such as Economic Times in india, http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/swiss-pe-fund-partners-group-in-talks-with-infosys-tcs-to-sell-css-corp-at-a-valuation-of-400-450-million/articleshow/51705874.cms. this is one such story and many others have appeared which i am not mentioning here toi keep this short.

It has definitely received "Significant coverage" on independent websitesfor a company of its size and is notable under > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline

CSS Corp is also a well known organization in areas in which it is located.

The above reasons are enough to justify the article to be not deleted. \ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya1Jayaram (talk • contribs) 10:41, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya1Jayaram (talk • contribs) 11:52, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Re: TaZ proposed deletion
The article TaZ is notable because the subject is a professional video game player who has won several major Counter-Strike competitions, which gets coverage from reliable sources. A similar article about a player, Karrigan, was DRV'd and AFD but both pointed towards restoration. Hopefully this addresses your concerns.--Prisencolin (talk) 19:01, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

COI report on NK - rating
Hello Piotrus, This is regarding the article Report of the Commission of Inquiry on Human Rights in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. A while back we corresponded a bit about the rating of that article. I have added a comment to that thread, and I would very much be interested to know reply to the thoughts I shared with you.
 * My prior message that I am seeking your reply to, is this one: thank you for your reply. You are right in that I had not included inline citation in the summary. That was because I thought that when a summary is written about a publication that is the subject of the article, Wikipedia policies allowed for two things: to use the publication itself as the source to prepare a summary (making it one of the exceptions of when a primary source can be used), and, that that since it is evident that the source for the summary of the publication, is the publication itself, that no in-line citations are necessary. For example, I looked at the summary of To Kill a Mockingbird, which is FA-Class article, and I could confirm how there are no in-line citations for that section. That is also the case for Moby-Dick (Class-B). However, as it is often the case in Wikipedia, sometimes there are different approaches to the same issue... And some articles I believe do include inline citations in summaries. How necessary do you think it is in this case? Thank you.

Thank you. user:Al83tito 22:18, 19 June  2016 (UTC)
 * Hello again Piotrus, I have now gone ahead and added in-line citations to the summary section, the only part that was missing in-line citations, per your first comments back in March. It seems that was the only thing that gave you pause before revising the rating from C to B. After you do that, I will be able to submit the article for GA rating consideration, as I think al the criteria are met. Thank you. user:Al83tito  22:45, 19 June  2016 (UTC)

@ pl:Wikipedysta:Adamt Kościół zamkowy w Królewcu (niem. Schloßkirche)

 * https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ko%C5%9Bci%C3%B3%C5%82_zamkowy_w_Kr%C3%B3lewcu&diff=prev&oldid=46434088 (what is user:Hoa binh doing in encyclopedia ?)
 * Adolf Boetticher: Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler der Provinz Ostpreußen. Heft VII. Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler in Königsberg. = Zabytki w Pruszkowie. Zabytki w Królewcu , Królewca 1897, s. 81 - 84 https://archive.org/stream/diebauundkunstd00boetgoog#page/n102/mode/2up https://archive.org/stream/diebauundkunstd00boetgoog#page/n104/mode/2up

@pl:Wikipedysta:Adamt Ratusz w Knipawie (Królewiec) ((niem. Kneiphöfisches Rathaus)

 * Adolf Boetticher: Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler der Provinz Ostpreußen. Heft VII. Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler in Königsberg. = Zabytki w Pruszkowie. Zabytki w Królewcu , Królewca 1897, s. 349-355, https://archive.org/stream/diebauundkunstd00boetgoog#page/n368/mode/2up
 * https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ratusz_w_Knipawie_(Kr%C3%B3lewiec)&diff=next&oldid=46434049 (what is user:Hoa binh doing in encyclopedia ?)

@pl:Wikipedysta:Adamt Ratusz staromiejski w Królewcu (niem. Altstädtisches Rathaus)

 * Adolf Boetticher: Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler der Provinz Ostpreußen. Heft VII. Die Bau- und Kunstdenkmäler in Königsberg. = Zabytki w Pruszkowie. Zabytki w Królewcu , Królewca 1897, s. 203-206, https://archive.org/stream/diebauundkunstd00boetgoog#page/n224/mode/2up
 * thank you --MateuszTg (dyskusja) 20:44, 26 lip 2016 (CEST)