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November Articles for creation backlog drive
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Concern regarding Draft:Ancient India
Hello, BD2412. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Ancient India, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: I only created a redirect at this title, not the draft content at issue. BD2412  T 02:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Request
I've started a revamp of Tools/Optimum tool set.

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely,  &mdash; The Transhumanist   07:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it is worth noting that AWB can also be used to create new articles from a list of redlinks, if you have database information to incorporate into them. BD2412  T 02:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "Worth nothing", or "worth noting"? Also, what did you mean by "have database information to incorporate into them"? Thanks for the input, and I look forward to your clarifications.   &mdash; The Transhumanist   02:34, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed! Worth noting. I mean if you have some basic information to create a set of articles with content and a source. BD2412  T 02:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Astrological sign
Your recent edit of Astrological sign contained a wiki syntax error in the Hat Group. The rest of your edit was so useful (thank you) that I corrected rather than reverted. Please audit my corrections. OrewaTel (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Your edit is correct. The error appears to have been introduced by a bug in WP:AWB, which I will bring up on their message-board. BD2412  T 01:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Primary meaning of the character is the character
Hi BD2412,

I see you systematically made WP:RLOTE of Kangxi radicals the primary redirects to their radical meaning. It's generally preferred while they're actually not characters themselves but radicals of characters (similar to affixes of words) and in rare cases, they might not be the primary topic as a radical, if they can also be the characters. Comparing with -ing, an English suffix who has its own article while doesn't hold the primary topic at Ing. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 03:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds like something I would have done at some point. It's been a while since I worked on those, though. BD2412  T 03:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Why???
I love the fact that not only did you feel the need the need to cite this, but you chose an academic source instead of an encyclopedia entry or the like Mach61 (talk) 03:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Am I being trouted for providing a valid source for a point that arguably does not require a source? BD2412  T 04:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. Mach61 (talk) 04:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It would be a very interesting argument that comes to the conclusion that the citation was not required. I would love to hear it. OrewaTel (talk) 06:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question re my great-great-granddad
In this edit you indicate that judge Richard F. Lyon (judge) retired, but the article on him says he lost the election to Dawson A. Walker. Do you have clear source on this, so we can make it consistent? Dicklyon (talk) 16:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You are entirely correct. I rather hastily misread the first paragraph of the source, which actually goes into extensive detail later on about the series of votes that resulted in this outcome. BD2412  T 16:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, great source! Except they call him "Lyons", an error that I still get plenty of these days, as that name is about 10X more common than Lyon. Dicklyon (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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Wives of Holy Roman Emperors
In theory some men who were later Holy Roman Emperors had wives who died or divorced before thry became Emperor. Whether such woman need to be in a category based on an office their husband only held after the marriage is an open question.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I tend to think not, but I also think that it is a very low priority issues. BD2412  T 15:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question
Would you be so kind as to undelete John Furth to my sandbox? I found a few more sources, and his being a book author will also help.  Atsme 💬 📧 20:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * restored to User:Atsme/sandbox. Cheers! BD2412  T 21:19, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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DRV close
Hi there, Deletion review/Log/2023 November 18 is closed as consensus to refund to draftspace. Before I undelete Draft:Alex Zhavoronkov, are there any particular versions of Alex Zhavoronkov that you believe should also be refunded to draftspace in the history? Happy to be guided by you on the detail here, as you have (judging by deletion log) had one go at 'cleaning up the edit history'. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 10:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking! To retain the most correct course of the edit history, I would suggest restoring Draft:Alex Zhavoronkov first, then moving it over the mainspace article, then restoring the old history underneath, then moving the entirety back to draft without a redirect. I will be all set from there. Cheers! BD2412  T 13:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Should be all done (I did it by moving the article to draftspace first then undeleting the draftspace history, but should hopefully have achieved the same goal). Cheers, Daniel (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That works, thanks again. BD2412  T 19:35, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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"Jain Agamas(Śvētāmbara)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * I have responded in the discussion, thanks. BD2412  T 17:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Undrafting?
I noticed you "undrafted" / removed from draftspace the drafts on the Delaware Supreme Court judges - I am wondering why did you do this / what does it mean? I found the drafts kind of helpful whenever I wanted to do one of them as they usually had some useful starter information. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The ones that I removed are the Colonial-era judges, who likely do not meet the threshold of presumed notability afforded to state supreme court judges, and for whom I have not been able to find anything of use to otherwise demonstrate notability. We still have drafts for seven Delaware state supreme court justices. BD2412  T 01:30, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Colonial-era members are not given the NJUDGE pass that post-Colonial-era ones are? Wasn't aware of that. Though I'd bet there's some coverage on some of them; I have a few resources and books on historical Delaware people, so I'll check to see if any of them are covered. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:NJUDGE by its terms applies to countries and states. I suppose an argument could be made for colonies. Feel free to work on these in my userspace. I would prefer not to have them in my queue to maintain as drafts when it I have had such a hard time finding/confirming basic biographical information. BD2412  T 01:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation
Hi BD2412 :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 02:12, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks! BD2412  T 19:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Notification of WP:BLPN item
Hello. Wanted you to be aware of this request for more eyes on the disagreement taking place at Emmanuel Lemelson. I hope wider community input can help us resolve the issue. - Swiss Mister in NY (talk) 19:36, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Noted. BD2412  T 04:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: T. L. Norval has been accepted
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Your draft article, Draft:Ancient India


Hello, BD2412. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ancient India".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 04:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but this is not my draft. I merely redirected the title eons ago. BD2412  T 13:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Edward I move request
Hi, BD2412. Thank you for taking the time to go through that long-winded discussion. I do not wish to rehash the discussion, but would much appreciate if you could tell me which points of policy the opposing side correctly cited. It might help me formulate next requests. Surtsicna (talk) 17:05, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Where policy points were raised in the discussion itself, you argued with those raising them that the points had been refuted. I expect that any further citation to the policies raised, of which you are clearly already aware, would be met with a similar assertion of refutation. BD2412  T 17:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I am curious whether you believe those points to have been refuted. You said both sides cited policy correctly but I fail to see how two very different interpretations of e.g. WP:RECOGNIZABILITY can both be correct. Surtsicna (talk) 20:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You are here to rehash the discussion, then. WP:RECOGNIZABILITY is not a binary switch to be flipped. It is a matter of degree, and reasonable people can disagree as to the degree that a subject is recognizable. With respect to recognizability of ambiguous topics, titling must take into account how recognizable a title will be to readers most familiar with other uses of the same name. This is the persuasive case that needed to be made to those opposing the move in the discussion. BD2412  T 20:56, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, I am here seeking clarity that should have been provided in the closing comment. Those opposing the move made no link between ambiguity and recognizability. It was instead argued that "naming the kingdom increases recognizability" because "not everybody will know that there was no Richard II of Scotland". That argument is precisely the opposite of the one you are making now: WP:RECOGNIZABILITY was cited as the reason for disambiguating existing topics from non-existing uses of the same name. Surtsicna (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As I said, you are here to rehash the discussion. As you clearly disagree with the close, please proceed to WP:MR. BD2412  T 21:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see a move review for this too. I get that the numbers were evenly split, but the oppose votes were so flawed they should have been discounted. WP:NCROY, for instance, was repeatedly misquoted and misinterpreted. – bradv  22:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It just never ends, does it? Does everything have to be so drawn out and painful? It's been a month since the RM opened. If there was a consensus, it would have formed by now. It didn't. There wasn't. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 15:44, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the close, BD2412. Anyways, I think RMs concerning 'monarch' pages, should be limited to 'one' per month. GoodDay (talk) 22:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Mixed-gender bands has been nominated for deletion
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 * I disagree with the premise of this nomination, and have replied in the discussion accordingly. BD2412  T 20:57, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

E-mail canvassing at an AfD?
Per your statement here,, you may also wish to comment at this related WP:ANI discussion. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:17, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have commented there. BD2412  T 20:32, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Quick question
A user who was blocked because they used their real name (celebrity) as their user name wants to re-register under a pseudonym. I imagine their IP address might be part of that block, so how can they create a pseudonym without appearing as a block evader? I cannot divulge the name publicly but my advice to them was to not register under their real name; rather, they should register under a pseudonym instead. I am 100% open to your suggestions.  Atsme 💬 📧 22:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That is a novel question - I would rather expect that they would appeal the block with an OTRS ticket demonstrating their claimed identity, but I frankly doubt that their IP address is blocked such that they can't create a new account. We rarely block IP addresses unless the edits as an IP are themselves the problem. BD2412  T 22:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Exactly, but there are situations that VRT cannot be 100% certain in today's digital age. I know that WMF actually prefers pseudonyms rather than one's RL id for the sake of privacy/safety. I also want to make sure the user understands COI, and that by registering under a pseudonym, they cannot edit their own BLP or other related areas where a COI might exist. Just needed to confirm. Thank you, BD2412!  Atsme 💬 📧 22:52, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Always a pleasure to be of help! BD2412  T 00:20, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Daniel W. Wright (poet)


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 * I don't know why I am being notified of this, I did not create this article. BD2412  T 18:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure, looks like Twinkle must've picked up the wrong author and you were chosen cause you moved the page once, as far as I can tell—your guess would be as good as mine. Thanks for letting me know though, as I will be sure to notify the real author. Cheers, microbiology Marcus (petri dish·growths) 18:49, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 👍. BD2412  T 18:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Disruptive editing on Jackson child abuse allegations page
Could you please take a look at what user Bhdshoes2 has been doing on this page?

He made more than 60 edits in about 24 hours, using questionable sources, primary sources or no sources at all, replaced the lead without consensus, rewrote the section headers, frankly created a mess of the Safechuck/Robson section with redundant content and one-sided citations of primary sources. I think this is a case of WP:DISRUPTIVE castorbailey (talk) 15:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This seems to have been sorted out. BD2412  T 15:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The issue is getting worse. Please view these discussions:, , and . Israell (talk) 10:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Have you not seen how involved I have already been at Neutral point of view/Noticeboard? BD2412  T 17:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't. Thx for intervening. Israell (talk) 12:17, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Association for a Better New York has been accepted
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Missing redirects project
I know it's been a while, but do you remember this? After a few months of working on this I have managed to get it to work.

Particularly I'd like to know how I could refine the list to produce better results. What do you think?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1702573307323:User_talkFTTCLNBD2412" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Glad to work on it. Right off the bat I am seeing some question marks. Many of the titles suggested for "Race and ethnicity in the United States census" are broader than that target, and there are many other examples, like Top Ten Films suggested for National Board of Review: Top Ten Films, Traditional district suggested for Districts of Norway, and Census Area suggested for List of boroughs and census areas in Alaska. BD2412  T 17:16, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I noticed that too. I think it's because there are a lot of towns with formulaic links. E.g. Metro Detroit: From the link , the target Race (United States Census) is resolved to Race and ethnicity in the United States census. Essentially every article on a town in America has a link like this, which is why it is suggested at the top. Hopefully if I do a full run the vaguer suggestions like this will be filtered out more.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1702574843926:User_talkFTTCLNBD2412" class="FTTCmt"> —  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thoughts from a quick glance:
 * Other races - previously deleted at RfD
 * Eastern (EST) - seems reasonable
 * Central (CST) - seems reasonable
 * Black or African American - this is a classic WP:XY, and the census isn't the only use of this term (and the list wants two different targets for the same redirect)
 * Other/Mixed - too vague
 * Racial makeup - too vague. Race (human categorization) would be a better target
 * Mountain (MST) - seems reasonable
 * Mixed Race/Multi-Racial - too vague. If this points anywhere it should go to Multiracial people
 * ZIP code(s) - not exactly useful but harmless
 * Mixed/Multi-Racial - too vague, see above
 * Same-sex married couples or partnerships - Same-sex marriage would be a better target
 * "Opposite-sex married couples" - Heterosexuality (where Opposite-sex marriage redirects) would be a better target
 * Pacific (PST) - seems fine
 * GNIS ID - slightly awkward but harmless
 * Eastern (EDT) - seems fine
 * 715 & 534 - is this really the only use of these two numbers together?
 * Pre-Julian Roman calendar - seems fine but I would point to the specific section Roman calendar
 * 2013 gubernatorial election - too vague
 * 2009 gubernatorial election - too vague
 * Some other race - too vague
 * Order of precedence of the United States - seems fine
 * Home rule-class city - It seems unlikely Kentucky is the only use of this, therefore too vague
 * State rep. - too vague
 * Alaska (AKST) - seems fine
 * Two or more races/Multiracial - too vague, see above
 * U.S. Decennial Census - seems fine
 * 2011 Census - too vague
 * The Virgin Encyclopedia of Popular Music - seems fine
 * Census of 2020 - should point to the dab page 2020 census instead
 * 539/918 - see above
 * Of two or more races - too vague, see above
 * OS grid reference - seems fine
 * Top Ten Films - too vague, should point to List of films considered the best instead
 * Traditional district - too vague
 * Census Area - too vague. Census block would be a slightly better target
 * Formally described - seems fine
 * Hispanics or Latinos - seems fine
 * Debow, James Dunwoody Brownson - seems fine
 * HDRO (Human Development Report Office) - it baffles me why people have piped to this title so may times. Given that I guess a redirect is fine, but some others would disagree.
 * Alaska Department of Community and Regional Affairs - seems fine
 * 910, 472 - too vague
 * Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Motion Pictures - seems fine
 * Tenth edition - too vague
 * Best Motion Picture – Drama - on the vague side but probably OK
 * 610 and 484 - too vague
 * Royal resolution - ???
 * 937, 326 - too vague
 * 301, 240 - too vague
 * 860/959 - too vague
 * Described - too vague (description might work instead)
 * Bowen, Francis - seems fine
 * Dialing code - why specifically the netherlands and not telephone number?
 * Mixed/multiracial - see above
 * (of ) - too vague and listed twice with two different targets
 * Hawaii-Aleutian - seems fine
 * Best Supporting Actor – Motion Picture - same as above
 * Best Director – Motion Picture - same as above
 * 803, 839 - too vague
 * Primary economic sector - seems fine
 * 208, 986 - too vague
 * Phoenix–Sky Harbor - on the vague side but probably fine
 * 442/760 - too vague
 * Modern day Kansas - odd, I would probably point to Kansas instead
 * Best Supporting Actress – Motion Picture - same as above
 * Titsingh, Isaac. - not plausible with the period IMO
 * 2000–01 - too vague
 * 2002–03 - too vague
 * 2005–06 - too vague
 * 270 & 364 - too vague
 * Best Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama - same as above
 * Incorporated (town) - I guess this makes sense
 * Commodore-Governor of Newfoundland - is this the same thing?
 * 2001–02 - too vague
 * Area code(s) - seems fine
 * Best Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama - same as above
 * 205, 659 - too vague
 * China Standard - too vague
 * Japanese Imperial kamon - seems fine
 * Of the body - too vague
 * 2003–04 - too vague
 * 631, 934 - too vague
 * 2006–07 - too vague
 * Kansas State High School - not the right target for this
 * Department number - too vague
 * Dubai–International - I guess this makes sense
 * Knight of the Black Eagle - seems fine
 * NAMM Oral History Collection - seems fine
 * 1998–99 - too vague
 * Best Screenplay – Motion Picture - same as above
 * "dry" - oddly formatted, not useful
 * Nebraska license plate system - seems fine
 * 21 inch (533 mm) - too vague/awkward/redundant
 * 843, 854 - too vague
 * Boulenger GA - Odd formatting but probably fine
 * Ponsonby-Fane, Richard Arthur Brabazon - seems fine
 * Census of 2000 - should point to the dab page 2000 census instead
 * Developing/Emerging - too vague
 * Selectman-town meeting - WP:XY, why not town meeting
 * There seems to be far more chaff than wheat here. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Pppery, I'm not too worried about the incorrect suggestions. I was intending something like WP:CTIOC - as long as a decent portion of the suggestions are valid, it's alright. After all, these will be subject to human review.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1702589704989:User_talkFTTCLNBD2412" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Charles A. Pomeroy has been accepted
<div style="border:solid 1px #57DB1E; background:#E6FFE6; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Charles A. Pomeroy, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rehra, Peter


A tag has been placed on Rehra, Peter requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a recently created redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer, or other unlikely search term.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Dicklyon (talk) 04:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cheers! BD2412  T 04:17, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

BD2412bot and
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I’ve found a few IP user pages where BD2412bot replaced OW with Blanked IP talk in August 2022. Given that they’re user pages rather than talk pages, OW seems more appropriate to me, so I’m planning to change the latter back to the former. This was obviously a little while ago now, but I just wanted to let you know given as I’ll be undoing edits made by the bot.


 * User:203.124.2.14
 * User:84.109.93.135
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 * User:116.44.128.43
 * User:24.181.235.80
 * User:24.0.138.87
 * User:168.103.148.135

Also, while I’m here, could I ask what the reason for deleting User:203.124.2.14/Testimonial was? The fact that it’s linked from an old version of an IP userpage makes me think it might have been worth preserving for historical purposes.

All the best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 13:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, please go ahead with the recommended substitutions. The history of the deleted subpage was a single edit in 2006, stating:

"It all started in 2005.I, as Tdxiang, an editor.

Sometimes, the account automatically logged out, therefore exposing my IP.Furthermore, the IP was shared under Singnet and that was why cases of vandalism popped up.

Tan DX 08:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)"


 * I see no encyclopedic value in the maintenance of such a message (the IP itself has been dormant since September 2005). Perhaps User:Tdxiang will have a different perspective. BD2412  T 13:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Draft
Does this draft pass WP:GNG in this state? TheWikiholic (talk) 16:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't think so. If I though it did, I would move it. BD2412  T 17:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

PolBot's FJC subpages
Hello, BD2412,

An editor, Arcendeight, was very active on PolBot pages and now Category:Bot-created FJC subpages needing delete action is filled up. Can I safely delete these pages? I would gather from the page instructions that I can do this but given that this was a rush of editing activity just done today and you are familiar with articles on judges and lawyers, you would know what to do. I'm not familiar with the work of PolBot, which ended over a decade ago and its operator, Quadell, hasn't been active for almost a year. Thanks for any feedback you can provide. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:19, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. Those are a relic from another time. Let me know if you need help with the deletion task. BD2412  T 01:21, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ That's exactly what I needed to know. I'll leave the category page for now. It's amazing that we have a relatively new editor who set about following up on these old PolBot pages. I wonder how they came upon them in the first place! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:56, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Kentucky Territory judges has been nominated for merging
Category:Kentucky Territory judges has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:46, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This is fine. I have noted this in the discussion. BD2412  T 15:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri
United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 15:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Seasonal greetings
InfiniteNexus (talk) 07:07, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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