User talk:Diberri/Archive 8

I've written a Wikispaces dialects module for HTML::WikiConverter
I'd like to work with you to get it submitted to CPAN. How would you like to proceed? (I mailed you at diberri at cpan dot org but did not get a reply). Code and test code is temporarily at:

http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/browser/Trunk/contributors/MartinBudden/cpan/HTML-WikiConverter-Wikispaces-0.01

if you want to look at it.

Martin.Budden (talk) 13:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

How About PubMedCentral
I'd like to insert some references on Wikipedia from PubMedCentral, e.g. PMC1520442. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pagerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=1520442&pageindex=1 It looks like it's currently not possible with your handy converter, but it would be cool if it was!

Sera Young (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This seems easy enough. To help me get this implemented: if given a pubmedcentral article id, what template should be filled out? --David Iberri (talk) 17:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * PMC gives . It would be nice if cite journal had a PMC parameter as seting "|id=" will give a rather messy output for now. I'll go back to cite journal discussion and see if can regenerate a response on this. David Ruben Talk 20:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * cite journal now has a "|pmc = " parameter, any chance autofilling that if PubMed provides the link value ? David Ruben Talk 03:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. For example, . --David Iberri (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That was quick - Thanks :-) David Ruben Talk 00:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. --David Iberri (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Given that PMC been used in some footnotes, can your tool take the pmc value and autofill a cite journal as it does with pmid values ? David Ruben Talk 02:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good thinking. All done. --David Iberri (talk) 22:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow - many thanks David Ruben Talk 22:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiConverter image attributes
Hello Dave, thanks for your WikiConverter. It is saving me hours and hours of work. One thing I haven't found yet is how to get it to preserve image size and alignment attribs.

I want to take: 

and make it I can't find how to get it to pick up the width and align attributes. It is possibly in some documentation somewhere, but I haven't found it after extensive googling. Thanks in advance for taking the time to reply. ~princeofgonville —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeofgonville (talk • contribs) 15:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Template Filling: Year missing in {citebook}
A new (to me) problem appeared when using your wonderful template filling tool. When starting with an ISBN number to create a filled  template, in some cases the   field is not populated. Here are 2 examples: ISBN 074328951X; ISBN 0802715303. Any idea what might be causing this? Thanks again for creating, donating, and maintaining such a useful tool for the Wikipedia community. Finell (Talk) 05:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * All fixed. . --David Iberri (talk) 19:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! If you don't mind my asking, how did something that used to work flawlessly break? Did [one of?] the reference database[s?] that your tool queries change its format? I'm curious. Thanks again. Finell (Talk) 22:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Must've been a change in the xml that PubMed generates, because the tool hasn't changed. --David Iberri (talk) 23:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you (and suggestions)
I'm getting used to using your tool on pmid (etc) and it's a huge help. There are a couple of things I'm struggling with that might make it even more useful. Thank you for your great tool. LeadSongDog (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) I've been trying to grasp how we can set a stock set of option switches for an article or project.  Is it as simple as setting them then making a specific bookmarklet for, say, WP:MEDMOS?
 * 2) Would it be possible to make hover text that shows the alternate representation?  For instance, when hovering over et al. show the full list of authors.  Likewise short/full versions of journal names (similar to the way that PubMed shows them) e.g.: et al.
 * Glad to be of service.
 * Bookmarklets are one solution. In Firefox, I set up a keyword search (right/ctrl-click on the pmid input field and choose "add keyword for this search" and then modify the bookmark generated by adding query parameters that match the options you want). Down the road, it's possible that something like this could be incorporated into the template tool, but I haven't found a clean way to do it just yet.
 * This would be something to bring up at the talk pages of the various citation templates, as this feature would require a change to template code.

Thanks for the suggestions! --David Iberri (talk) 19:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for citation tool
First of all thousands thanks for the tool. It saved lots of time to created the references for the articles I created and edited. Just one suggestions: Sometimes there is both an URL and a DOI. Would it be possilbe just to add the DOI if a both the DOI and URL are present? e.g. see the recent edit in GPR55. Thanks! -- Panoramix303 (talk) 17:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This has come up before (I think the conversation is on this talk page somewhere, or perhaps in the most recent archive), but I don't think a full solution was ever reached. I don't have a great sense for the best solution, but right now I would prefer to leave both URL and DOI on the template markup, and rely on the citation template to decide which one to display. Is that fair? --David Iberri (talk) 19:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify things a bit, the user can optionally select "Add URL if available" on the on template filling tool page. Alternatively the user can manually delete the URL if a DOI is present.  The DOI is definitely preferable to a URL (because of its persistence) and if a DOI is present, the URL should not be included because it is redundant.  Therefore in my opinion, the best way to handle this is if a DOI is not returned then return a URL if available.  Conversely if a DOI is returned, then don't return a URL.  With this behavior, the "Add URL if available" check box become unnecessary and could be removed.  Does this make sense?  Cheers. Boghog2 (talk) 20:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it makes sense! I totally agree with you that the DOI is preferable to the URL. Remove the URL by hand is no problem, the great thing about the tool is just that it saves so much time. If would have this feature too it would be perfect but I can handle this little imperfection easily. Thanks! -- Panoramix303 (talk) 11:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think I can agree with this solution. I've updated the tool in the latest version, which will be available soon. --David Iberri (talk) 19:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * When the URL returned is just the returned DOI with the http://dx.doi.org/ prefix, the DOI Bot will delete the URL. If easy, please suppress the URL in that case. RDBrown (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I've updated the Wikispaces dialects module for HTML::WikiConverter
I've mailed you at diberri at cpan dot org but I don't think you regularly check that address, so this is to let you know there's a mail waiting there.

Martin.Budden (talk) 11:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. Actually, I do regularly check that address, but just have a bad habit of not replying. :-) Thanks for updating me on the module. I'll see about adding it to the converter page soon. --David Iberri (talk) 20:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And it's now online here. --David Iberri (talk) 17:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Wish list
I have hesitated to ask for additional features in such an excellent, useful tool that you have taken the time to create and to maintain for free. But I do have a wish list for filling the the template from an ISBN query:


 * 1) I would like to at least have the option of having the tool include those fields (with blank values) that it does not fill and that the user might want to fill manually (the same way the tool now provides a blank  field). The fields I most often need to add are ,  ,  ,   (e.g., a translator),   (for a modern translation or edition of an old book),   ,   (for foreign language books), and.
 * These fields are now available if you check the "show extended fields" option. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Of these fields, the information to fill,  ,  ,  , and  should be in the ISBNdb database, but I do not know how difficult it would be to program your tool to extract it and use it to fill these fields.
 * I haven't looked into this yet, but will eventually. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) The way the tool populates the  for an ISBN query is contrary to the   template's documentation: the field is to indicate when the Wikipedia editor accessed the book online, where the book is online and a URL is supplied. The date that the bibliographic data was retrieved from a database does not belong in the   field for a book, even if the user checked the "Add access date" box when using the tool. Therefore, the tool should not populate the   field in the   template. On the other hand, in populating the  template, the date that the tool checks the Web page is reasonably safe for the   field.
 * I see. The tool no longer fills in the accessdate parameter. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Error trapping: When copying an ISBN from a Wikipedia ISBN link, it is easy (at least for me!) to accidentally include "ISBN" along with the number, which results in a "not found" error. Could the tool strip "ISBN", if present, from the search query?
 * Done. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) For the sake of flexibility, instead of the tool populating the  field, I would prefer that it populate the   and   fields for the first author and the   field for all additional authors.
 * This will happen soon. --David Iberri (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Of course, if you did none of this, your tool is still an extraordinary contribution to the Wikipedia community, for which I and many others are grateful. Thank you, again. Finell (Talk) 03:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks very, VERY much for all your excellent work, and also for being so repsonsive. Finell (Talk) 18:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

More ISBN problems?
Hi, many thanks for the very nice template filling tool. I found some more ISBNs that it does not handle althought the books definitely do exist, maybe it doesnt like German books for some reason? Example: http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/templates/?ddb=&type=isbn&id=3-437-22211-2 see eg http://www.elsevier.de/sixcms/media.php/792/VZ_Leitfaden.pdf Richiez (talk) 23:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The output at seems reasonable to me. Can you clarify the problem you're encountering with the tool? --David Iberri (talk) 13:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, works miraculously now, previously it said "Could not find a book matching the given ISBN". Now I get the same type of error for ISBN 3-13-125342-8. Is this some kind of transient failure in the upstream server perhaps? Richiez (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Something like that, yes. The tool is subject to ISBNdb, which unfortunately is not an exhaustive database of all texts. However, it is constantly updated with new ISBN information, which explains why for some ISBNs, the template filling tool can go from nonfunctional to functional. --David Iberri (talk) 19:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, verified that the particular ISBN is missing from ISBNdb.com, many thanks anyways. Richiez (talk) 21:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yet google does turn it up. LeadSongDog (talk) 22:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Mayday mayday
http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/templates/ isn't working. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you consider hosting your tool on http://wiki.ts.wikimedia.org/view/Main_Page JFW | T@lk  21:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Argh. This is a new problem -- the server is up, but the dns (http://dyndns.org) somehow dropped my account. I'll get to the bottom of this soon. JFW: yes, I am currently working on a portable solution that can be installed on the toolserver. It's almost ready for prime time. --David Iberri (talk) 23:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

PMID give month ?
Hi, when giving a PMID abstract number, could your code also provide the "|month= " parameter filled in and not just the "|year= " ? I think there had previously been a problem where your code worked if a single month specified, but if a range (eg "January/February") then somehow had misbehaved. David Ruben Talk 23:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added the  param. I don't recall the previous problem with month ranges you mention, but maybe I've just forgotten the problem. Let me know if any problems arise with the new addition. --David Iberri (talk) 23:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Journal
Would it be possible to add a mode for Template:Infobox Journal, populated from the NLM ID? Example URL = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=nlmcatalog&doptcmdl=Expanded&cmd=search&Term=8610225[NlmId] (There also appears to be an XML link) --Arcadian (talk) 02:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it'll have to hang out on the back burner until 1) I take my ob/gyn shelf exam and 2) I move the template builder over to the toolserver. --David Iberri (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Converter problems
I tried using your HTML to wiki converter on the "page source" (via Firefox's "View/Page source" feature) of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages, and it came out looking like this.

Just thought you'd like to know.

The Transhumanist 21:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds like you didn't enter values for the "base URL for relative links" and "URL for wiki links" fields. When I use  and , respectively, I get this gem, which looks decent to me. --David Iberri (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice! Thank you!!!  By the way, it isn't clear what "URL for wiki links" and "Base URL for relative links" means (I've been here for over 2 years, and I still didn't know what you were referring to; "Encode HTML entities" is also unclear to me).  Where is the documentation that explains these and how to use the converter?  The Transhumanist  23:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Documentation is at CPAN. --David Iberri (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

ISBN-13
Your tool is a great time saver! It would be great if you could allow using ISBN 13 and not just ISBN 10. As it stands now, entering an ISBN 13 gives a 500 Server Error. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure why it's not accepting ISBN-13s, but I'll look into it. For now, at least the ugly internal server error message is gone (I've replaced it with a more user-friendly message). --David Iberri (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Should be supporting ISBN-13 now. --David Iberri (talk) 18:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Journal links
Hi, Diberri; thanks for the great tool (and good luck with the upcoming exam). Are you sure you want to automatically link journal names, without giving us the option to turn that off? It results in a sea of WP:OVERLINKing, as discussed here. Also, tonight the tool was returning page ranges with hyphens instead of endashes, in case you changed something in the recent beta version. Regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 05:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I would kindly but strongly suggest that the default is that journal linking is turned off, and the option provided being to turn it on. Where the journal has a WP article, it can result in excessive linkages, where there is no such WP article then a series of red links (not visible of course on previewing an edit until teh page is actually saved). Finally on rare occasions (eg ) it falsely will give a link to a topic ("contraception" in this case) rather than a journal. David Ruben Talk 22:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The auto-linking is actually a bug. I'll have it fixed this evening. --David Iberri (talk) 22:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't get to it last night, and it's far too nice a day in New England to sit at the computer. :-) I'll get to it this evening. --David Iberri (talk) 14:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Default linking is disabled now, and the endash issue should be fixed. --David Iberri (talk) 07:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Harvard template filling?
Hi, would it be possible to generate templates for harvard citations - Harvard_citation_template_examples? It would be great if it could generate things like [ automaticaly - rather error prone to do manually if there are many authors. Many thanks for looking at it. Richiez (talk) 22:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm. This is the first time I've heard of Harvard citation templates on Wikipedia. Nice to know they're there. I'm short on ideas of how to incorporate these different templates into the template filler. Let me think about it... --David Iberri (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It is not important to ouput code for every single variant like harvnb or harvtxt - what matters most is to have author names and year filled out consistently so that the links are generated correctly. In principle there could be an option to generate both a cite template and the corresponding harv template in one go.Richiez (talk) 20:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I like your idea of adding an option for harvard templates. Would that option apply to multiple templates? Or would Template:Cite journal be the only one? --David Iberri (talk) 19:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for looking at your question so late, I am not entirely sure I understand what you are asking. I would use Harvard templates mainly for citing journals or books. So lets say I enter PMID XXXXX into your tool it would be nice if I would get  and  in one go. Or maybe first the cite templates with links to generate the harvard template(s). Similar for ISBNsRichiez (talk) 10:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Latest version
Congratulations on the new version launch, i find the tool indespensible in my editing, and look forward to adapting to the new format.

One comment or suggestion i would make is to add a 'Clear' button beside the Go function to aide speedy multiple citing, This need only be for the reference number box although clearing the last result at the same time would be useful Jagra (talk) 04:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added a link beside the submit button to clear the ID/reference number box. Is that in line with what you were thinking? --David Iberri (talk) 16:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:LDH.PNG
Thanks for uploading Image:LDH.PNG. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Non-free content, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 00:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Shell   babelfish 00:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --David Iberri (talk) 16:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Problems with generated HTML
Two little html problems after the recent changes. First, the dash used in page ranges does not play well with some browsers. Would it be possible to generate &ndash or something similar? Second, some browsers take the textarea to be rows="4" cols="20" ignoring style, I think it would be a safe compromise to use cols=60 so most browsers make something sane out of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richiez (talk • contribs) 20:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed the cols="60" problem, but I'm not sure what I can do about the unicode/ndash problem. I'd rather not output the ndash as an HTML entity, as that practice is generally discouraged on Wikipedia. Are you using a unicode-friendly browser? --David Iberri (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My browser generally support unicode but not this particular symbol. My other browsers display either a dash or a waved line. Unicode defines approximately 16000 kinds of dashes, maybe a different one would work? But that is the problem with Unicode, I think for wikipedia it is the wrong way. Why use 0xe2,0x80,0x93 for a dash when ndash does it? The problem with this kind of unicode symbols is the differences are extremelly small or nonvisible in one browser/editor while you see a huge rendering difference in some other. The high numeric range of the symbol even makes me suspicious that the rendering might be langauage dependent although I have very little idea about unicode. What is wrong with ndash? My opinion would be to generate a plain minus - it is not unreasonable that cite template would recognise page ranges one day and insert the most reasonable symbol itself.Richiez (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to wrap my head around the problem. See if you can help me out. Right now the template filler decodes the  entity and displays it in the textbox, as in  . Are you proposing that it should generate  ? --David Iberri (talk) 23:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Generating  would certainly work best for me. Also   displays correctly here, though it is less convenient to use. But what arrives here when I use wget or similar is a byte sequence of 0xE2,0x80,0x93 and that messes up the textbox of one browser.Richiez (talk) 19:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I still hesitate to use the en dash HTML entity because the MoS (last time I read it) discourages entities, recommending that unicode characters be used instead when possible. Also, Template:Cite journal uses  and not  . So rather than using the en dash entity, I'd prefer to figure out why your browser isn't displaying the unicode character properly. Let me know if that seems reasonable. --David Iberri (talk) 19:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

(Unindeneted) My browser problem is something that I personally could fix, perhaps upgrading some font related packages or whatever. Regarding HTML entities contra unicode characters I believe there must be a distinction: if you want a character like modern greek eta with a bunch of accents then unicode seems to be appropriate, especially in greek text. However if you want the mathematical symbol of kappa in a mathematical formula than unicode would be considered broken (and probably break rendering). Similarly, while many unicode symbols exist for sub- and superscripted numbers you would never have the idea to use those instead of the html notation. For me a page range is more like a mathematical formula than a text. Also I have no idea wheter you how you or your software decided that 0xE2,0x80,0x93 would be the ideal unicode character replacement for ndash but I suspect there will be dozens if not more that are hard to distinguish on some browsers and may produce very different results on others. Some of them might work better with my browser, it is in fact quite rare that it would not display a common unicode character. With ndash I know that I get a decent ndash whereas the unicode character displays for example a tilde like character in my version of Firefox. So not sure which way to proceed?Richiez (talk) 09:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The template filler uses a Perl module called HTML::Entities to decode the  and output a   in the textbox. It's the easiest solution from my perspective, but clearly it's not getting the job done perfectly. I'll try outputting   directly into the textbox so that it will render as  . I wish I had time to work on this right now, but won't be able to get to it until mid next week. --David Iberri (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made a change to the entity-encoding process so that the raw endash is now encoded to  before it's output to the textarea. This ensures that your browser sees the HTML entity   and can properly render it as , avoiding the problem of your browser seeing a raw   and having it barf when it tries to render it. Example at . Let me know if this does the trick. --David Iberri (talk) 23:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it is a lot better now. But as it is now the broswer will take the  and convert it into its own version of dash which will get pasted into the cite form. In theory different browser/text editor combinations may do different things out of it. So I am wondering if it would not be better to quote the   so the ndash html entity is pasted into the cite form instead of whatever the browser substitutes for it? Richiez (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Change is Wikipedia template filling cgi
Did you change the cgi calls to the pmid/isbn citation generator? I notice that bookmarklets to the script no longer are working. - 129.111.16.109 (talk) 10:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Yes, I did change the URLs for the citation builder/template filler. I've just now installed redirects from the old URL to the new one, so maybe the bookmarklets have been saved. --David Iberri (talk) 23:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The pmid is now passed, but other fields such as add_ref_tag=1 and add_text_url=1 are not being passed. I can change the bookmarklets (at least the ones I have written) if it is easier. Thanks - Badgettrg (talk) 15:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course. I hadn't thought of that. :-) The best solution would be to update the bookmarklet to avoid this hassle altogether. --David Iberri (talk) 19:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Template
Thanks for your note on my talk page Lisa4edit. At first glance I'd say I'll have to refer to an expert to use this. Without further explanation (which may well be available at someplace in Wikipedia I haven't run into yet) this is not of that much use for "dummies" and "fossils" like me. I gave up programming back when Assembler got out of fashion and have to learn lots of new stuff just to get the most basic editing right. I'll try to look into it further. The article I'm currently colaborating on Hip dysplasia (human) has more than 20 references thus far and we're not done putting all of it together yet. I assume the template would only be for a couple of pointers and not for all pubmed or medical journal text references?? Thank goodness Arcadian, whom we've managed to rope in for the project, seems to know a lot about this kind of stuff. Not that I'd not be willing to learn. Thanks for sharing the link. --71.236.23.111 (talk) 04:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about (after all, I never left you a message on your talk page), but I finally got it. :-) Anyhow, the tool is intended for Wikipedians that use citation templates as their method of inserting references into articles. I haven't looked at Hip dysplasia (human) to see what citation format it's using, but if you're not familiar with citation templates such as, then it's no surprise you don't find the template filler self explanatory. :-) --David Iberri (talk) 12:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

ChemBox suggestion
It is great to get the ChemBox template via the PubChem number but of course there is one suggestion. Is it possible to get the whole ChemBox template with all the fields, even if they are empty? Otherwise you have to copy&paste the missing fields. Thanks! -- Panoramix303 (talk) 00:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Additional fields are available by clicking the "show extended fields" checkbox. --David Iberri (talk) 02:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

ISBN not working
Last few days trying to get a cite book for ISBN numbers gives an error. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for letting me know. This was a problem with a code change I recently made, and is now fixed. --David Iberri (talk) 22:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

"Diberri's tool"
Hi, just seen your tool for extracting cite journals from PMIDs etc. I've written something similar that works with DOIs and even Google Scholar. Perhaps when your exams are over you would be interested in integrating the two so that medics and scientists can use the same central resource? Smith609  Talk  22:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, that sounds very interesting... Very impressive work. I'd definitely like to pursue a merger. What language is your tool written in? --David Iberri (talk) 23:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

JSPWiki dialect module for HTML::WikiConverter
Hi, I've mailed a JSPWiki dialect module for the HTML2Wiki converter to diberri at cpan dot org.

It would be extremely useful to us if this could be included!

Thanks for considering it! Andreaw 02uk (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Done! Thanks for your help. Might you consider sharing the code via CPAN? --David Iberri (talk) 00:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Harvard templates again
Hi, I played around with it and created a ruby script to do the job. It has only passed a few simple tests, Look on my user page for details - Richiez (talk) 00:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Down again
Your citation tool is up and down more often than a whore's knickers, my friend. Can't you host it elsewhere? ► RATEL ◄ 07:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Getting the tool installed on the wiki toolserver is a little difficult (for me at least). But I'm working on it. :-) --David Iberri (talk) 14:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Template wizard
Firstly, thank you for your wonderful tool!

Here are a few feature requests:


 * Organic Syntheses references. Use OrgSynth; the unique id is the volume/pages or collvol/collvolpages (see template for documentation). Is it possible to pull the author and title, and output it properly formatted?


 * Search via DOI to give a formatted cite journal entry. The vast majority of DOIs point to journals, though some point to books and book chapters. Defaulting to cite journal should be fine though.

I know you're doing this out of your own time, so there's no stress here. But, if you can, it'd be nice. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 16:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstarification


After all those gripes about your tool not working, needing improvements etc I thought it would be nice to confer this nice barnstar on you. I'm not sure how I would survive citation on large articles if not for your brainchild. I hope you continue to succeed in your studies and join our noble profession with the same dedication you have shown to your fellow Wikipedians. JFW | T@lk  22:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --David Iberri (talk) 02:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity School of Medicine
Would you like to participate in the development of the Wikiversity School of Medicine? Please join our discussion regarding the content of our first curriculum. As a medical student, your input would be very much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.182.246 (talk) 22:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Links to Pubmed Central from the Diberri tool
David, the PubMed xml now contains the PMCID for articles with full texts at PubMed Central. For example, the article http://pubmed.gov/17082546 has a PMCID in its xml. The link to PMC would then be http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1633755. You could make the code Free full text via PubMed Central.

I did not know you were an MS3 at Vermont - does Larry Weed still teach there?

Thanks for your great work. - Badgettrg (talk) 00:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems easy enough, but I have a few questions. How reliable is the PMCID provided? That is, if a PMCID exists in the XML, can we guarantee that the corresponding pubmedcentral.gov URL will exist? If an article has a PMCID, will the XML also provide a URL for full text?
 * I'm embarrassed to say I'm not familiar with Dr. Weed, although he is listed as professor emeritus in our catalog. In the age of EMR, I'm surprised we were never exposed to his contributions to the field. Small world -- what's your association with UVM?
 * Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 20:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Html to XWIKI
I really appreciate your implementation of the HTML::WikiConverter. It turns out the conversion I need is HTML to XWiki, which is not included in that package. What would is take to help you add that to the package? (I could include something financial as well, as it would help me immensely.)

I appreciate your time.

Dominiclovesyou (talk) 15:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're in luck -- an XWiki dialect already exists and is available via the CPAN at . I didn't write it, but I'll still shamelessly accept a donation. :-) Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 21:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I am actually pretty new to perl and its implimentation within html (most of my background is with PHP) is it possible that you have some documentation as to the inclusion of perl within your html script (like the source code for the page or something), to help me create a similar page without going through all the rig-a-ma-role that i'm sure you have down to a science. I would really appreciate it. Thx for all your help.

Dominiclovesyou (talk) 18:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * All my Perl-embedded-in-HTML work is done in HTML::Mason, the website for which is available at http://www.masonhq.com. There's tons of documentation on that website about how to use Mason for this sort of thing. In case you want a shortcut, there's a tar'd and gzip'd version of my html2wiki.html Mason component available as well . Note that it's somewhat outdated and I can't vouch 100% for its usability under the latest version of HTML::WikiConverter. In the meantime, I've installed the XWiki dialect on the machine that runs the html2wiki web interface . You're welcome to use the conversion there if you'd like to avoid working with Perl and Mason on your system. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 01:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot collaboration
Greetings, Dave. I run a bot named User:Polbot, and one of her current (in trial) tasks is to convert bare links to full citations by following the links and harvesting information. For instance, when it finds the link: ...it looks at the html at that link and harvests title and author information to get:
 * http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/010409/archive_008912.htm

(The source code, in perl, is here.) So far it works with the New York Times, Time Magazine, and several other popular periodicals. However I haven't tackled scholarly sources yet, since there is a lot I don't know about, for instance, Pubmed, and I see that others have already delved deeply into this area. Like, for instance, you! So I was hoping I could ask for some help.

Given a link to a PubMed page, such as http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15339646, is there a straightforward-ish way to autogenerate the data you use in your template builder tool? Of course I could parse the html on the page, the way I do for other sources, but that can of course be fraught with exceptions and difficulties. Besides, why reinvent the wheel? Does your tool pull the html from the relevant page, and then parse it for author and title, etc.? Or is there some database or API which is more consistent? Is the sourcecode for your tool available? Any feedback or guidance would be most appreciated. – Quadell (talk) 23:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Howdy, Quadell. I'm happy to help! First off, the source to the template builder is finally available -- via CPAN, no less. See WWW::Wikipedia::TemplateFiller. That's not likely to be the easiest way for you to harvest information, though. Rather, you can easily fetch PubMed data the same way W::W::TF does -- by using the WWW::Search::PubMedLite module. There are lots of other modules on CPAN that can help you with parsing data from news sites, btw. Also, check out WWW::Mechanize for a much easier way of programmatically accessing the web. Feel free to drop me more questions -- I'm happy to help in any way I can. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 03:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Citing tool
I feel I would rethink contributing in wikipedia if your magnificient tool did not exist. Right now it does not seem to work.--Garrondo (talk) 11:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Still doesn't seem to work. Why Wikipedia won't host it, even merge it into the edit panel? CopperKettle (talk) 13:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The hangup is mostly my fault. I've yet to modularize the code enough for it to be runnable on Wikimedia's servers. At the same time, I've yet to receive my ssh information from the Wikimedia admins. I'm working on it... :-) In the meantime, keep me posted with your experiences with the website. I'll try to keep it operational as much as possible. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 01:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Hagerstwon
Hi, I love the template filler it's saved me hours and hours of work. Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know: every time a book is published in Hagerstown, it comes out "Hagerstwon". Is this something to do with the tool, or the site it gets the info from? Thanks again for creating this wonderful tool! delldot  talk  16:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad the tool has served you well. Sorry to hear about the nuisance this 'Hagerstwon' typo is causing. Unfortunately, this has to do with the site the information is coming from (isbndb.com). Last I checked (2-3 months ago), they didn't offer a method by which errors -- typos or otherwise -- could be submitted. Do let me know if you've heard differently. --David Iberri (talk) 16:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked the LC catalogue. Many Lippincott entries had Hagerstown, none had Hagerstwon. Ottobib had Hagerstwon e.g.. The ISBNdb FAQ gives a contact address. ISBN 0781742552 used as case in point. LeadSongDog (talk) 20:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Further on that, NLM's MARC record shows no mention of Hagerstown or Hagerstwon. It is not clear what source ISBNdb used for the erroneous data.LeadSongDog (talk) 20:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, sheds some light...LeadSongDog (talk) 20:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice sleuthwork. Still, however, it seems there's no way to directly submit errata... --David Iberri (talk) 00:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sigh. The authoritative source for US publisher data is the US ISBN Registrar, Bowker.  They are the publisher of Books in Print etc, including this pricey stack of dead trees that lists all the publishers. It appears that the publisher data for each numeric block of ISBNs is self-maintained by those publishers via BowkerLink, their online customer-service portal.  Hence, if it is wrong in Books In Print, you write to the correct address of the publisher (in this case Lippincott Williams & Wilkins) with the incorrectly listed address in order to get them to log in to Bowkerlink and fix their own entries, which would then propagate to the derivative forms.  I'm sure if Bowker tried hard they could find a way to make the process more likely to fail, but offhand I'd say it's pretty well guaranteed erroneous as is.LeadSongDog (talk) 14:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

buying you a pint
The citations filler is great !! saves me a lot of time, thankyou! I tried to buy you a pint - but the link to paypal donate on the template filler seems broken ... is it? LeeVJ (talk) 12:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're very kind. Indeed, the donation link has been broken, possibly for a while. I've fixed it just now, so feel free to buy that pint (I'm a barley wine aficionado) if you still desire. :-) Thanks much, David Iberri (talk) 15:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ... enjoy :) LeeVJ (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You rock. Thanks. --David Iberri (talk) 02:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Survey request
Hi,

I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.

Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!

The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.

Thank You, Sam4bc (talk) 16:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Featured Topic Task Force proposal
Hey, I've just set up a proposal for a new task force in the WikiProject Medicine called FTTF, or the Featured Topic Task Force. We aim to create a featured topic for medicine, most likely to do with an infectious disease of some form (the proposals so far include polio and bacterial infections in general) and become the first medical featured topic. The proposal can be found here and further discussion can be found at the bottom of the WikiProject Medicine talk page. I've very much appreciate your comments and possibly support of such a proposal, if you'd be willing to take part! — Cyclonenim T@lk? 13:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Providing day parameter
Hey David, was there some reason why a query like this doesn't return day=2 along with the month=September that is returned? Thanks again,LeadSongDog (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you pass along the right URL? When I click on that link you gave, I get a mostly blank template. --David Iberri (talk) 01:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * May be the way the line breaks in your browser? It works here.  Anyhow, its PMC 2442162 in the template filler.  The same result comes up if I enter . While I'm here, SandyGeorgia wanted someone to tell you about WP:ALLCAPS.LeadSongDog (talk) 15:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All of a sudden it's working now. I'll look into it now that the link is working for me. What is the ALLCAPS reference about? --David Iberri (talk) 01:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * SG left it on this diff to Alzheimer's disease. LeadSongDog (talk) 19:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's up to editors to enforce WP:ALLCAPS, as it's nearly impossible to do it right programmatically. In my experience the biggest problem with title case algorithms arises with acronyms. Knowing when to "undo" a word in all caps is extraordinarily difficult: in the example you linked to, "WITHDRAWN" should be undone, but what about titles that refer to clinical trials like this: "ENHANCE and ACCORD: controversy over surrogate end points"? I think the onus is on PubMed (which generally does a great job of indexing these articles) and on Wikipedia editors to ensure that the proper title case is used. (FWIW, I think SG may have been joking.) --David Iberri (talk) 19:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The thought occurred to me, but you're entitled to an occasional giggle too.LeadSongDog (talk) 20:57, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Full Journal Titles
I'm quite new here, but have found your template tool invaluable already - many thanks! While I was looking at the style guidelines, I cam across this: WP:Scientific_citation_guidelines, "Since Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, references do not need to be as concise as they are in journals. In particular, it is always helpful to give the title of a journal article, and to give the complete name of the journal (Astrophysical Journal instead of Ap. J.)" (my emphasis). I've already found that this guideline is implemented more often in the breach than in the observance, but for non-academics like myself, a full journal title is very helpful and I really can no longer see a good reason to use abbreviated journal titles on Wikipedia. With that in mind, while not wishing to create more work for you, is there a simple way of having your tool return complete journal titles - or are the abbreviations built-in to the source data? Thanks again --RexxS (talk) 03:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a great observation. The change should be simple, and I'll implement it as soon as I can. Best, David Iberri (talk) 03:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Heads up
You'll be interested in what's going on at Template_talk:Cite_journal Cheers,LeadSongDog (talk) 19:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussion over template documentation favouring one parameter usage over others is one thing, but I'm not convinced "first, last, coauthors" a better system, nor the recent mess of cite journal using citation_core metatemplate with its "first2, last2, first3, last3, first4, last4" etc - so hold off changing your tool until discussion there is complete :-) David Ruben Talk 04:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You may also be interested in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style on a new Citation template that would putatively replace all the Cite family.LeadSongDog (talk) 16:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Analgesic nephropathy
Hey there—nice work! Have you considered nominating this for DYK? I'm pretty sure it meets the five-fold expansion rule. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

The "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar

 * Thanks! --David Iberri (talk) 17:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Threats appreciated. ;-) How's this for a start? --David Iberri (talk) 18:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hadn't seen it [[Image:smiley.png|20px]]. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!


—Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 18:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Request
Would you be willing to create a subpage in your userspace to provide a very brief overview of your citation tool? I frequently find myself directing people to the website, but it would be easier if I could direct them to something in Wikispace. It doesn't have to be long or fancy -- if you get it started, there are plenty of us that would help expand it. --Arcadian (talk) 18:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. I'll start it over at User:Diberri/Template filler. --David Iberri (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! --Arcadian (talk) 23:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Any time. :-) --David Iberri (talk) 21:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

"Don't use et al for author list"
Hi and thanks for "Wikipedia template filling". It's a great tool! Could it be that the option "Don't use et al for author list" is not working? I don't see a difference whether or not I use it, in both cases the result is the same. e.g. for it is {{cite journal |author=Schermelleh L, Carlton PM, Haase S, et al |title= ..... . I would like to have all authors in the citation however, not just the first three, but there does not seem to be a way to do this. --Dietzel65 (talk) 21:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the report. I'll look into it tonight. --David Iberri (talk) 22:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's funny: with the {{PMID|12049719}}, I also get the same result whether I use the et al option or not, but this time all authors are always included: author=de Bruijn MF, Ma X, Robin C, Ottersbach K, Sanchez MJ, Dzierzak E . The PMID above still shows the behavior described previously. May be there is a cutoff if authors >6? --Dietzel65 (talk) 11:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact, the cut-off is (I believe arbitrarily) set at six authors. Nevertheless, the et al is not being suppressed appropriately in your example. I haven't taken a sufficient look at it, but will try tonight. --David Iberri (talk) 21:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi David, any insights so far? Is there a chance to resolve this? Thanks for your effort, anyway. --Dietzel65 (talk) 20:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, had a chance to look at it and actually fix it. Check out . --David Iberri (talk) 21:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Long term potentiation
Hi, nice edit. Would you have any objection to changing it to "Alzheimer's disease" instead of "Alzheimer disease"? That's the canonical name in Wikipedia, and frankly, well, it's a pet peeve of mine -- this Alzheimer disease/Parkinson disease/Down syndrome stuff drives me nuts. Regards, looie496 (talk) 16:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Toolserveraccount
Hello Diberri,

if you have allready an account, just write an an email to - with the login-name and from the original-eMail-Adress if possible. --DaB. (talk) 16:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Collocations
Heh. So did you add that book to see how long it would take anybody to notice, or what? looie496 (talk) 00:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, yeah. I could've sworn I added another book there, not the collocations one. I should really look at the history of that page... In any case, I've changed the citation to the originally intended one. --David Iberri (talk) 12:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for template filler
(Moved to User talk:Diberri/Template filler. --David Iberri (talk) 18:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC))

Request for page protection
Hi. I noticed that you protected the Titin page because of excessive vandalism. There is a GNF_Protein_box Template:PBB/7273 which is transcluded into the Titin article which is also being subjected to the same type of frequent vandalism. I would appreciate if you would semi-protect that page as well. Thanking you in advance for your help. Cheers. Boghog2 (talk) 12:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like Arcadian just took care of it. --David Iberri (talk) 15:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks to you and Arcadian for your considerable work in defending the parent Titin page against vandalism.  Cheers. Boghog2 (talk) 17:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

PEs difficulty breathing and shortness of breath
Hi Diberri,

Was looking at your edits on PE. I am a bit concerned that on the PE article and in general on WP difficulty breathing and shortness of breath all go to Dyspnea. I am not a medic but a survivor of bilateral main artery PEs (lucky) I think that there is an important distinction between finding it hard to breath (diminishing breathing, laboured breathing) and the extremely rapid breathing from air hunger which you get with PEs, which are a bit like a panic attack. The fact that a GP didn't pick up the distinction with me meant I was put on steroids for asthma a few weeks before before arresting from the PEs. Are we confusing things which are different? --BozMo talk 08:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it would be helpful do define some terms precisely. Dyspnea is the subjective feeling (ie, symptom) of having difficulty breathing. That definition is broad and includes such things as orthopnea, paroxysmal nocturnal dyspnea, shortness of breath, air hunger, dyspnea on exertion, and more. The extremely rapid breathing you describe is called tachypnea, which is an objective clinical finding (ie, sign). Clinicians use both signs and symptoms to establish their index of suspicion of disease such as PE. Most clinicians would at least consider PE in a patient with any sort of new-onset dyspnea, tachypnea, and tachycardia, and use the clinical history (eg, recent surgery/immobilization, symptoms of DVT, other Wells criteria) to guide workup.


 * I sympathize with your experience with PEs, but with all respect I highly doubt that your diagnosis of PE was missed because of your GP's not understanding the difference between these various terms. The problem with PE in particular is that there are no signs and symptoms specific to the condition. The most common findings are a subjective feeling of difficult breathing (ie, dyspnea), rapid breathing rate (ie, tachypnea), and rapid heart rate (ie, tachycardia). However, if these findings were observed in a 60 year-old patient who happens to have smoked two packs of cigarettes per day for 40 years, and who has been hospitalized for bronchitis and pneumonia several times in the past 3 years, this episode may be viewed as a COPD exacerbation (red link!?) in which a course of steroids would certainly be reasonable. I'm not saying this is what happened in your case, but this scenario crops up fairly often, which is why there are guidelines for working up this sort of thing.


 * Our methods of diagnosing PE are good, but they're far from perfect. Even if the guidelines were employed 100% correctly, and 100% of the time, there would still be cases of PE that went undiagnosed. There's good data out there demonstrating that we miss a couple percent of PEs even when the proper clinical decisions were made and guidelines were applied appropriately. That's just the nature of medicine.


 * Anyhow, with respect to the article, my edits were intended to elaborate on the introduction with common clinical findings. If you find an error in what I've written, please don't hesitate to bring it up. But hopefully the definitions I've applied above help explain why I made the changes I did. Apologies for the lengthy reply; I would've written less had I had more time. Best wishes, David Iberri (talk) 02:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the time, and more explanation which obviously I did not expect but is very welcome. I didn't think your edits made things worse and I will have a look more closely at what linked where. I should add I am very sympathetic with the GP, common things are common. Of course I was under 40, never smoked, not been to a doctor since Malaria a decade earlier and was running regular 10kms until having to stop with the symptoms. The first problem was the aerobic limit on my cycle trainer dropped from 169W to 105W overnight. In 48 hours I went from a 10km run to not being able to climb a flight of stairs, and then recovered over a week. I was in a house with five other doctors (all family) none of whom believed Asthma but none of whom thought of PEs. A PO2 (Arterial blood gas) of 7 before I finally arrested was what had been picked up :) --BozMo talk 07:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's a remarkable story. I'm glad you survived what sounds like a terrifying ordeal. Still, though, while you mention common things being common, your sympathy with your GP, etc., the message you left here initially was that your diagnosis was missed because of a failure to distinguish between terms. I still don't think that was a case. Certainly, yours was a curious presentation, but I would think that hypoxia (low PaO2 or even low oxygen saturation measured by those fancy finger devices) in the setting of rapid breathing, rapid heart rate, and any sort of difficulty breathing (shortness of breath, pain on inspiration, etc.) would have put PE on the differential diagnosis regardless of your age, health, etc. Like I said earlier, PE is notoriously difficult to diagnose, and this is one great example of why. This sort of diagnostic miss is more likely attributable to bias regarding your overall health ("how could he possibly have a PE?") and less so to a misunderstanding of terms. FWIW. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 02:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair point, you're probably right. And funnily not that terrifying for me (I was unconscious for the worst few hours), however it put quite a stress on my wife and young kids. --BozMo talk 09:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Heads up
Hi David. I've pointed out over at Template talk:Harvard citation that there's an error in the way harvard CITEREFs are generated. LeadSongDog (talk) 19:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. Haven't read it yet, but I'll try to take a glance tomorrow. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 02:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Cardiology task force
-- MifterBot I (Talk • Contribs • Owner) 20:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Maen. K. A. (talk) 09:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

DOIs and URLs
Hi, I've noticed that your very effective, widely-used template builder does not automatically pull up DOIs. It also seems to automatically pull up URLs regardless of whether they are freely-accessible or not.

I think it's important for Wikipedia to start telegraphing to readers whether the referenced articles are freely-accessible or not. As you've probably noticed, PubMed now does this. I started a discussion on this over at the citation template talk page and Orangemarlin suggested that urls be excluded when the article isn't freely available. A replacement for URLs on these articles would be DOIs, which will always redirect to the for-pay URL. Have you considered automatically adding DOIs? II | (t - c) 22:02, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've replied over at User talk:Diberri/Template filler. --David Iberri (talk) 22:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

File:APV.png
Just to let you know that I recently copied the above image that you uploaded to Wikipedia over to WikiMedia Commons, the Wikimedia central media repository for all free media. The image had been tagged with the Copy to Wikimedia Commons template. Your image is now available to all Wikimedia projects at the following location: Commons:File:APV (NMDAR antagonist).png. During the move I changed the name of the image to better reflect Naming Conventions policy, duplicate file name and/or Commons naming restrictions. The article that contained the image has been updated to reflect the new name as it exists now on Commons. The original version of the image uploaded to Wikipedia has been tagged with WP:CSD. Cheers! -- 18:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! --David Iberri (talk) 18:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:APV.png
File:APV.png is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:APV (NMDAR antagonist).png. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case:. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * File:Northern leopard frog.jpg is now available as Commons:File:Northern leopard frog 1.jpg. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 18:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

User Altie account
Hi Diberri! I wont ask you about user Altie account, he (I think) is not active a much time. Since 11 December 2005 he recieve no one notification. But I wont to register in the english wiki with the same name Altie. Can you help me? Or I had to ask bureaucrats to rename an account? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.231.41.9 (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.231.15.239 (talk) 07:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Amyloid purpura
Would you be open to merging the Amyloid purpura article into the Amyloidosis article? ---kilbad (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I can understand the argument for merging with amyloidosis, but my gut feeling is that it should stay put. Its pathophysiology section alone is enough for AP to warrant its own page. And if there is more to add, in the form of risk factors, complications, treatments, etc., then I think it should certainly have its own page. If you don't mind, let's keep it where it is for now, and I'll see if I can't dig up a bit more to add. Give me a week or two. (I'm currently studying for the boards, so I may not be as responsive as usual.) --David Iberri (talk) 01:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * What boards are you studying for? ---kilbad (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Nothing fancy, just USMLE Step 2. T-minus one week and counting. --David Iberri (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you match this year? ---kilbad (talk) 02:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm only just starting 4th year. UVM's curriculum is shifted a few months compared to most other curricula; we start 4th year in March as opposed to summer/fall. But I'm crossing my fingers that I match into an internal medicine program in either New England or Northern California. --David Iberri (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't talk you into dermatology ;) ? ---kilbad (talk) 03:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Fabulous Citation Tool BROKEN!
I'm distraught. I'd come to really love your citation tool, and it's been broken for two days. Please fix it, and email me at dan@mdpatrick.com to let me know when you fix it. See... http://toolserver.org/~diberri/cgi-bin/templatefiller/ Mdpatrick (talk) 03:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep.. an indispensable tool. Wish it to be "merged" someday with wikipedia so that it will fail less often.. )0: -- C opper K ettle  03:53, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Apparently the toolserver webserver was converted to Solaris this week. Might have broken your tool? Tim Vickers (talk) 04:15, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * As a note for people http://www.zotero.org/ does an extremely good job of replacing this tool with a Firefox plugin that's the equivalent of Endnote/Reference Manager. Tim Vickers (talk) 05:02, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for making me aware of this. I'm trying to fix the tool rapidly. One snag is that my toolserver account has expired without warning. (I suppose this in itself could've cause the tool to go down.) In any case, I'm working on getting my account extended so I can fix things. I agree with Tim about Zotero -- it's amazing. --David Iberri (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a "Wikipedia" style for Zotero? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Current role of your tool
I did some investigating of alternatives while your wonderful tool is down. I found Citation_tools and Template:Cite_pmid. These tools make me wonder if your tool is still needed? Whereas in the past, I found your tool essential, maybe these new methods are better. - Badgettrg (talk) 14:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a replacement. While cite pmid and cite doi can be handy for quickly citing a source, they have the intrinsic characteristic of rendering the same way on all pages that use it. As articles can have local preferences (e.g. for short vs long journal titles, Br vs US style dates, etc) the need for cite journal persists. Also, cite pmid is very fragile in the face of subtle vandalism: a single character change in the pmid number completely breaks the linkage to the reference. I'd argue that it should routinely be replaced by inlining the cite journal version shortly after creation. This should be easy botwork.LeadSongDog come howl  16:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Cite pmid and cite doi also create separate pages for each citation. Potentially useful for creating an EndNote-style "library", but right now I just think it's unnecessary. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to point out that the Template Filler produces other types of templates in addition to the journal template. I frequently make use of these other templates and therefore I am very grateful to to Diberri for his work in writing the Template Filler. I have mixed feelings about the Cite pmid and cite doi templates. They reduce the amount of in-line code which certainly makes the raw wiki text easier to read and edit. However as LeadSongDog points out, there are some drawbacks. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 19:38, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As an alternative to the Cite pmid template, a new feature has recently been added to Reflist to allow moving of the content of citations to within the Reflist template at the end of the article and just including the ref name within the body of the article (see Template:Reflist).  This extension to the Reflist template functionality would seem to capture the major advantage of the  Cite pmid and cite doi templates (less clutter) without the disadvantages that LeadSongDog mentioned.  Cheers. Boghog (talk) 05:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Citation tool
None of the other tools work for ISBN or web pages. Anything I can do to help you get it up and running again? Would it be possible to run it from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Doc James. The citation tool was running from the Wikimedia toolserver, but crapped out once they upgraded their OS. I'm not sure if there's a way you can help. Do you have a toolserver login? --David Iberri (talk) 01:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * All the toolserver users are supposed to be listed here. But looking at this it appears that the toolserver is completely borked. Note the right hand column! LeadSongDog come howl  03:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Just a thank you

 * This is not to tell you yet again that your citation tool is not workng, you know that. But that I am transpiring, hyperventilating, trembling, that must be new. Please, my withdrawal symptoms are so bad... Can't they just undo that blasted toolserver upgrade that messes everything up??? Thanks for a great tool and I can't wait for it being functional again! --Crusio (talk) 22:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

It workssssss
It seems to be working again, and that is VERY GOOD NEWSSS, thanks for your marvelous tool.--Garrondo (talk) 07:38, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * IT DOES!!! And my withdrawal symptoms are gone! Thanks!! --Crusio (talk) 09:11, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Genomic Imprinting
Hi there. I have reverted your recent addition to the genomic imprinting article, as it was largely inaccurate. Methylation and imprinting are not synonymous terms – the methylated allele is not referred to as the imprinted allele. Instead the terms parternally/maternally expressed are used. In addition, imprinting is also equally associated with histone modifications, not methylation alone. As for the genetic causes of BWS and SRS, these are not as simple as you suggested, involving mis-expression of large imprinted domains, and not only one gene in isolation. Regards, Nouse4aname (talk) 20:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My aim was to simplify and expand the lead, but your points are much appreciated; you are correct that my additions were inaccurate. That'll teach me to write on a topic outside of my expertise without a large textbook at my side! Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 12:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

CaMKII
Hello. You uploaded an image of the structure of. This is an image of only the assembly domain of the enzyme. The catalytic and regulatory domains are missing. Furthermore, it is now recognised that the crystallisation of the assembly domain on its own resulted in a wrongly tetradecameric structure. The enzyme is in fact dodecameric (as we know from electron microscopy images). For more information, see for example Rosenberg et al. 2006.

I will upload a new file called CaMKII-dodecameric.png, generated from the structure provided in: Rosenberg et al 2005

You may envision to change yours as well.

Cheers

Would-you like to replace yours as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenov (talk • contribs) 11:03, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Howdy, Lenov. I don't keep up with any of the literature around molecular structure, so your update is much appreciated. You're welcome to replace File:CaMKII.png with the dodecameric structure you've uploaded. Thanks, David Iberri (talk) 18:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Ectopic pregnancy
I saw that you just made a major edit to Ectopic_pregnancy. Perhaps you could also answer my questions at Talk:Ectopic_pregnancy, please? Debresser (talk) 19:44, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll reply over there. --David Iberri (talk) 20:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Otago_skink.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Otago_skink.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.

If you created this media entirely yourself but have previously published it elsewhere (especially online), please either
 * make a note permitting reuse under the CC-BY-SA or another acceptable free license (see this list) at the site of the original publication; or
 * Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to , stating your ownership of the material and your intention to publish it under a free license. You can find a sample permission letter here.

If you did not create it entirely yourself, please ask the person who created the file to take one of the two steps listed above, or if the owner of the file has already given their permission to you via email, please forward that email to .

If you believe the media meets the criteria at Non-free content, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I obtained permission via email and copied it to the image page. The photo is in the public domain. Unfortunately I don't have access to my old email account, and am unable to resurrect the relevant conversation. I won't be able to track down the author in a timely fashion, but will attempt to do so as soon as possible. --David Iberri (talk) 12:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

FAR
nominated Action potential for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.  Pyrrhus  16  18:49, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Orange County Choppers


The article Orange County Choppers has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No secondary sources at all to establish notability of company

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

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Epinephrine Renaming
I would like to put the renaming of the epinephrine article into action, but I have never moved a page before, and think that just adding a request is a waste of time at this point. I was wondering if you could help me move the page to adrenaline if you are still interested. --WikiDonn (talk) 19:35, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, and despite my preference to have the page at Adrenaline, there's no consensus to move. --David Iberri (talk) 05:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no consensus to keep either. Where does it say that status quo prevails when there is no consensus? WP:AT clearly supports adrenaline, and nobody has been able to dispute this, so by policy, adrenaline is the default. (By the way, when I posted this, I thought the argument was over. I didn't know this was still so controvercial, but I just didn't want to convert the page by myself.) --WikiDonn (talk) 04:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations
I suppose this means you'll be rather busy for a while. ;-) LeadSongDog come howl!  04:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

HTMLTOWIKI CSPAN problem Urgent
Hi, is there any chance of renewing your account http://toolserver.org/~diberri/cgi-bin/html2wiki/index.cgi as i use this in an application, and can't access the application as the account has expired, anlusan   at     cityultima.com 89.168.33.251 (talk) 21:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have sent an email to the toolserver administrators and eagerly await their reply. Apologies for the inconvenience this account expiry issue repeatedly causes. --David Iberri (talk) 05:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank You David. I have loaded the perl components now but am still trying to work out how to get this to work from within a php function 81.178.244.61 (talk) 11:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * My toolserver account has been reinstated and I'm having no problem using either html2wiki or the template filler. Sorry I can't help you with calling the tool via PHP, as alas, I'm a Perl guy. --David Iberri (talk) 05:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Sources_again
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine. LeadSongDog come howl!  05:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC) (Using )

Happy Birthday
'''Wishing User: a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Armbrust Talk  Contribs  02:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)'''

Broken Tools
What's going on with your tools? They're so useful for me and my WP:MED work :(, any idea when they will be back up? Thanks! Peter.C  •  talk  00:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Tool
Yes we all miss it greatly. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Nice work
Finally got around to using your cite tool for the first time. Nice work! Matto paedia  Say G'Day!  13:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

The new Adrenaline article
Hi, it's me again. The new Adrenaline article we agreed to in the mediation is here. Since you seem to be an expert in this field, I thought you would be able to/might want to help. Please help out if you can (it's been 3 months and we haven't even started yet!) --WikiDonn (talk) 21:11, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I still think this is a great idea, and I'd love to start working on the separate articles. When I have a spare moment, I'll be sure to help with the edits. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 07:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you could start by whitelisting this article I found. I don't have any medical textbooks, and sources about this (that discuss it with any complexity) are hard to find on the internet. --WikiDonn (talk) 23:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

HTML to wiki converter
I'm interested in the HTML to wiki converter, but the link to CPAN is broken. Do you know where I can find it? Han-Kwang (t) 16:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You might try this link on CPAN. There's also another html2wiki on Magnus' toolserver page LeadSongDog come howl!  16:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Allopathy and its Difference with Modern Scientific Medicine : Request to join the discussion
I came across your userpage and thought that I could try to involve you into the discussion regarding my attempts to radically modify the article on Allopathic medicine where my edit as available at this link, had been reverted. The discussion is available at the respective talk page. I had referenced my edits so that the information that might not be known to many, can be verified. I seek the improvisation of this article (along with the related ones) and would like a healthy discussion to be re-initiated in order to improve the article. I would be glad if you show your experienced intervention/involvement.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 14:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

PubMed format tool offline
Dr. Iberri, Have you moved or replaced your PubMed formatting tool? The site appears to be down. Thanks! --Gene Hobbs (talk) 15:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Request for comment
This message is being sent to you because you have previously edited the Naming conventions (use English) page. There is currently a discussion that may result in a significant change to Wikipedia policy. Specifically, a consensus is being sought on if the policies of WP:UCN and WP:EN continues to be working policies for naming biographical articles, or if such policies have been replaced by a new status quo. This discussion is on-going at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English), and your comments would be appreciated. Dolovis (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Image Deletion
A deletion discussion has just been created at Category talk:Unclassified Chemical Structures, which may involve one or more orphaned chemical structures, that has you user name in the upload history. Please feel free to add your comments.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

A new medical resource
Please note that there is a new freely accessible medical resource, MedMerits (to which I'm a medical advisor) on neurologic disorders. A discussion on ELs to MedMerits and medical ELs in general is currently in progress ("Wikipedia and its relationship to the outside world"). Presto54 (talk) 06:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Your Toolserver account
Hi David, I'm a user of your tool HTML2wiki and so far it's the best tool of its kind. Today I noticed that your account has expired. Could you reactivated it again? It would help a lot of people. Many thanks. Bennylin (talk)
 * Hi Bennylin, I don't know if this helps you or not but I did find the reference tool in a new location. --Gene Hobbs (talk) 17:20, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

All files in category Unclassified Chemical Structures listed for deletion
One or more of the files that you uploaded or altered has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it/them not being deleted. Thank you.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of MGA73 (talk) at 17:49, 28 November 2011 (UTC).

File:Kidney nephron.png needs authorship information
Dear uploader:

The media file you uploaded as File:Kidney nephron.png appears to be missing information as to its authorship (and or source), or if you did provide such information, it is confusing for others trying to make use of the image.

It would be appreciated if you would consider updating the file description page, to make the authorship of the media clearer.

Although some images may not need author information in obvious cases, (such where an applicable source is provided), authorship information aids users of the image, and helps ensure that appropriate credit is given (a requirement of some licenses).


 * If you created this media yourself, please consider explicitly including your user name, for which: will produce an appropriate expansion, or use the own template.


 * If this is an old image, for which the authorship is unknown or impossible to determine, please indicate this on the file description page.

If you have any questions please see Help:File page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Addressed there. David seems to be understandably busy IRL. LeadSongDog come howl!  06:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted
I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon, 1-3 June. Registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, then please register by May 1st and mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, teaching, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

We want to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or at mediawiki.org. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 02:43, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

You're invited! New England Wikimedia General Meeting
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ISBN Retrieval
Hi there, I know you're not very active any more but do you have any thoughts on Wikipedia_talk:RefToolbar_1.0? -- Neil N   talk to me  02:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

New medical organization
http://www.extremelogics.com Hi I'm contacting you because, as a participant at Wikiproject Medicine, you may be interested in a new multinational non-profit organization we're forming at m:Wikimedia Medicine. Even if you don't want to be actively involved, any ideas you may have about our structure and aims would be very welcome on the project's talk page. Our purpose is to help improve the range and quality of free online medical content, and we'll be working with like-minded organizations, such as the World Health Organization, professional and scholarly societies, medical schools, governments and NGOs - including Translators Without Borders. Hope to see you there! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 07:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

File:Sympathetic NS.PNG missing description details
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 * File:Sympathetic NS.PNG

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Category:Subjects taught in medical school
Category:Subjects taught in medical school, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 05:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Template filler is down
Your template filler tool is down. If you have time to fix it, that would be very nice of you. --Apoc2400 (talk) 20:04, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library now offering accounts from Cochrane Collaboration (sign up!)
The Wikipedia Library gets Wikipedia editors free access to reliable sources that are behind paywalls. Because you are signed on as a medical editor, I thought you'd want to know about our most recent donation from Cochrane Collaboration. Cheers, Ocaasit &#124; c 20:35, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Cochrane Collaboration is an independent medical nonprofit organization that conducts systematic reviews of randomized controlled trials of health-care interventions, which it then publishes in the Cochrane Library.
 * Cochrane has generously agreed to give free, full-access accounts to 100 medical editors. Individual access would otherwise cost between $300 and $800 per account.
 * If you are still active as a medical editor, come and sign up :)

2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting
You are invited to the 2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting, on 20 July 2013 in Boston! We will be talking about the future of the chapter, including GLAM, Wiki Loves Monuments, and where we want to take our chapter in the future! EdwardsBot (talk) 10:08, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Sympathetic NS.PNG missing description details
Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as: is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors make better use of the image, and it will be more informative to readers.
 * File:Sympathetic NS.PNG

If you have any questions, please see Help:Image page. Thank you. Message delivered by Theo's Little Bot (opt-out) 16:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks and help Request
Martiniturbide (talk) First, I want to thank you for creating the "HTML to wiki converter" converter. It is great. You don't know how much it had helped me to deliver more content to my community Wiki and helped to release OS/2 contents under Creative Commons. Thanks.

I wanted to ask you for help. I had been converting some pages from HTML to MediaWiki using "Fetch from URL" (ex: ) and your tool is converting the text with a lot of this characters "������". Is there way this characters can be replaced? or maybe giving a little update to your tool.

Thanks.
 * Thanks for the message. There's no easy way to have the tool delete all these characters. You could write a wrapper perl script that does that though... --David Iberri (talk) 06:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm getting a error accesing your tool today. (Internal Server Error (500)) Martiniturbide (talk) 17:59, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

File:Sympathetic NS.PNG missing description details
Dear uploader: The media file you uploaded as: is missing a description and/or other details on its image description page. If possible, please add this information. This will help other editors make better use of the image, and it will be more informative to readers.
 * File:Sympathetic NS.PNG

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Template filler tool?
Hi! Did you see these messages? I'm helping to run a Wikipedia education project, and we recommend using this tool, so I'd like to get it up and running somewhere. Where is the source code? I didn't see any reference to a code repository on the User:Diberri/Template_filler page. If you let me have some access, I can help get it up and running again. Thanks! Klortho (talk) 16:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The source code may be found at CPAN. I have a local copy that still runs fine. The problem is presumably with the server, not the source code. I have pinged David and he said he would try getting it running again. Boghog (talk) 16:15, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it, but at the moment I'm having a hard time just logging into the toolserver. Stepping back, I'm not sure I have the time or technical chops to get this online and stable, and I won't ever have the resources necessary to fix this in a timely fashion. Unfortunately, these crashes are completely random, and not due to any bug in my code, but rather they arise out of incompatibilities with server updates, etc. (I'm sure my code has dozens of bugs, but they haven't been responsible for any of the crashes I've seen so far.) If some kind soul would like to install  from CPAN on a more stable site, or if they have the time and experience to maintain something on the toolserver, I'd be forever grateful. In the meantime, I'll keep trying. --David Iberri (talk) 20:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dave for your efforts. I have very little experience with installing scripts on web servers so there are no guarantees that I can get this to work, but I will give it a try.  I just set up an account with Wikimedia Tool Labs and I will see if I can getting it running there.  Cheers. Boghog (talk) 05:35, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I asked Rich Farmbrough, but given his block, am unsure whether he would be able to help. Happy to help myself. Novice at LAMP stacks, but can drive Ubuntu a bit, still need to work out how to properly handle CPAN packages in a dpkg (Debian => Ubuntu etc) environment RDBrown (talk) 07:06, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I now have a version running on Wikimedia Tool Labs server! At least "PubMed ID" and "PubMed Central ID" searches now work, there are problems with url and isbn and the rest). The link is here: citation-template-filling.  I will try to get the rest of the template filling tool to work properly over the next few days.  Cheers. Boghog (talk) 15:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice, thank you! Klortho (talk) 22:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * → See also technical discussion of issues to get this tool to work, here. Klortho (talk) 22:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Deprecated parameters
Editors using this tool are creating references containing the deprecated month parameter.

Are there any plans to amend the output to instead use the date parameter? This parameter can take a variety of complete and partial dates. -- 79.67.241.76 (talk) 18:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sadly I haven't had the time to maintain this tool the way I'd like, so the unfortunate answer is no: I don't have any such plans. The best option would be for another Perl coder to take over the module. If you know anyone with such an interest, please post it here. --David Iberri (talk) 18:05, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The Pulse (WP:MED newsletter) June 2014
The first edition of The Pulse has been released. The Pulse will be a regular newsletter documenting the goings-on at WPMED, including ongoing collaborations, discussions, articles, and each edition will have a special focus. That newsletter is here.

The newsletter has been sent to the talk pages of WP:MED members bearing the User WPMed template. To opt-out, please leave a message here or simply remove your name from the mailing list. Because this is the first issue, we are still finding out feet. Things like the layout and content may change in subsequent editions. Please let us know what you think, and if you have any ideas for the future, by leaving a message here.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC) on behalf of WikiProject Medicine.

BMJ offering 25 free accounts to Wikipedia medical editors
Neat news: BMJ is offering 25 free, full-access accounts to their prestigious medical journal through The Wikipedia Library and Wiki Project Med Foundation (like we did with Cochrane). Please sign up this week: BMJ --Cheers, Ocaasi via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

HTML2WIki Link Not Working
Hi. The link it is not working: http://toolserver.org/~diberri/cgi-bin/html2wiki/ It is very sad that is not working anymore because it was a very important tool — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martiniturbide (talk • contribs) 20:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Medical Translation Newsletter
 Wikiproject Medicine; Translation Taskforce

Medical Translation Newsletter

Issue 1, June/July 2014 by CFCF, Doc James

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This is the first of a series of newsletters for Wikiproject Medicine's Translation Task Force. Our goal is to make all the medical knowledge on Wikipedia available to the world, in the language of your choice. note: you will not receive future editions of this newsletter unless you *sign up*; you received this version because you identify as a member of WikiProject Medicine

Spotlight - Simplified article translation

Wikiproject Medicine started translating simplified articles in February 2014. We now have 45 simplified articles ready for translation, of which the first on African trypanosomiasis or sleeping sickness has been translated into 46 out of ~100 languages. This list does not include the 33 additional articles that are available in both full and simple versions.

Our goal is to eventually translate 1,000 simplified articles. This includes:
 * WHO's list of Essential Medicines
 * Neglected tropical diseases
 * Key diseases for medical subspecialties like: oncology, emergency medicine (list), anatomy, internal medicine, surgery, etc.

We are looking for subject area leads to both create articles and recruit further editors. We need people with basic medical knowledge who are willing to help out. This includes to write, translate and especially integrate medical articles.

What's happening?

I've () taken on the role of community organizer for this project, and will be working with this until December. The goals and timeline can be found here, and are focused on getting the project on a firm footing and to enable me to work near full-time over the summer, and part-time during the rest of the year. This means I will be available for questions and ideas, and you can best reach me by mail or on my talk page.
 * IEG grant

For those going to London in a month's time (or those already nearby) there will be at least one event for all medical editors, on Thursday August 7th. See the event page, which also summarizes medicine-related presentations in the main conference. Please pass the word on to your local medical editors.
 * Wikimania 2014

There has previously been some resistance against translation into certain languages with strong Wikipedia presence, such as Dutch, Polish, and Swedish. What was found is that thre is hardly any negative opinion about the the project itself; and any such critique has focused on the ways that articles have being integrated. For an article to be usefully translated into a target-Wiki it needs to be properly Wiki-linked, carry proper citations and use the formatting of the chosen target language as well as being properly proof-read. Certain large Wikis such as the Polish and Dutch Wikis have strong traditions of medical content, with their own editorial system, own templates and different ideas about what constitutes a good medical article. For example, there are not MEDRS (Polish,German,Romanian,Persian) guidelines present on other Wikis, and some Wikis have a stronger background of country-specific content.
 * Integration progress


 * Swedish Translation into Swedish has been difficult in part because of the amount of free, high quality sources out there already: patient info, for professionals. The same can be said for English, but has really given us all the more reason to try and create an unbiased and free encyclopedia of medical content. We want Wikipedia to act as an alternative to commercial sources, and preferably a really good one at that. Through extensive collaborative work and by respecting links and Sweden specific content the last unintegrated Swedish translation went live in May.
 * Dutch Dutch translation carries with it special difficulties, in part due to the premises in which the Dutch Wikipedia is built upon. There is great respect for what previous editors have created, and deleting or replacing old content can be frowned upon. In spite of this there are success stories: Anafylaxie.
 * Polish Translation and integration into Polish also comes with its own unique set of challenges. The Polish Wikipedia has long been independent and works very hard to create high quality contentfor Polish audience. Previous translation trouble has lead to use of unique templates with unique formatting, not least among citations. Add to this that the Polish Wikipedia does not allow template redirects and a large body of work is required for each article. (This is somewhat alleviated by a commissioned Template bot - to be released). - List of articles for integration
 * Arabic The Arabic Wikipedia community has been informed of the efforts to integrate content through both the general talk-page as well as through one of the major Arabic Wikipedia facebook-groups: مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربي, something that has been heralded with great enthusiasm.

Integration is the next step after any translation. Despite this it is by no means trivial, and it comes with its own hardships and challenges. Previously each new integrator has needed to dive into the fray with little help from previous integrations. Therefore we are creating guides for specific Wikis that make integration simple and straightforward, with guides for specific languages, and for integrating on small Wikis.
 * Integration guides

Instructions on how to integrate an article may be found here

News in short


 * To come
 * Medical editor census - Medical editors on different Wikis have been without proper means of communication. A preliminary list of projects is available here.
 * Proofreading drives


 * Further reading
 * Translators Without Borders
 * Healthcare information for all by 2015, a global campaign

Notification of pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
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Notification of imminent suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
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Inactivity
Hi Diberri, I've just removed your administrator rights due to inactivity. Thank you for your hard work. Worm TT( talk ) 07:47, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Peer review invitation
Hello David,

First, I hereby want to thank you with the Sandwich of Exceptional Excellence for your very useful template filler - I use it a lot.

Also, I'd like to take a look at a project in development in Wikiversity called Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, where I am editor-in-chief (more information at Wikiversity Journal of Medicine/About).

I'd very much appreciate if you did a peer review of an article that was recently submitted to this journal:
 * Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder

This is essentially a shortened version of the Wikipedia article on that subject, in own words.

The peer review is preferably written in the corresponding talk page, and should include a declaration of any conflicts of interests. Comments should be constructive, include both strengths and areas for improvement, and be referenced whenever possible. Otherwise, the journal has no strict rules regarding the structure and length of a peer review. Still, more guidelines for peer reviewers can be found at: Wikiversity Journal of Medicine/Peer reviewers.

We prefer peer reviews to be returned within 3 weeks, and appreciate in any case a reply regarding whether you are interested or not in this contribution.

Best regards,

Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Copyright concerns over File:Aplysia californica.jpg
Hi, I recently reviewed the file information on this image, and it is missing some important details I hope you can assist with (you are identified as the original uploader). First, the image's "source" information is no longer (and perhaps never was) valid. Can you check on its source for me? Second, there is no OTRS ticket for this image, and it looks like there should have been one. Do you know why none was produced? Things like "Permission was granted" without any evidence of such make me concerned. I am trying to complete the information normally found on a file and associated with the template Information, which is strangely missing in this instance and is of especial concern for images of such obviously high quality (and when versions with much higher resolution appear to be available throughout the Internet). Please let me know if you can assist me. I see that you only edit Wikipedia two or three times a year, and sadly do not seem to be receiving notifications about messages on your talk page, so I will try to email you directly. Thanks! KDS 4444 Talk  09:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message, KDS. Actually, there's nothing strange about an uploaded image from 2004 missing OTRS ticket information, since OTRS didn't exist back then. In any case, try as I might, I'm currently unable to find the original documentation granting Wikipedia's use of that image. And of course, the original source URL is a dead link. Fortunately, a reverse image search yielded this URL, which looks familiar to me, and may in fact be the new home of that original image. You might be able to reach them to obtain permission to use this image. Cheers, David Iberri (talk) 18:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi David. I noticed this nomination and have taken the liberty of emailing the apparent copyright holder. She has now emailed OTRS giving Wikimedia permission to publish under CC-BY-SA. Pinging KDS4444. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 01:30, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


 * KDS4444 has withdrawn the deletion nomination. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 09:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

This Friday: Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Cambridge, MA
You are invited to join the Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Cambridge, MA on October 16! (drop-in any time, 6-9pm)--Pharos (talk) 18:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
Hi, You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of List of MCAT topics for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of MCAT topics is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of MCAT topics until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  15:08, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Please claim your upload(s): File:MVP subtypes.png
Hi, This image was seemingly uploaded prior to current image polices, Thank you.

However, as part of ongoing efforts to ensure all media on English Wikipedia is correctly licensed and attributed it would be appreciated if you were able to confirm, that it was your own work, by marking it as own, amending the information added by a third party, and by changing the license to an appropriate "self" variant. You can also add  to the Media by uploader or Presumed self tag(s) if  present to indicate that you've acknowledged the image, and license shown (and updated the information where appropriate).

This will assist those reviewing the many many "free" images on commons that have not yet been transferred to Commons. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:32, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, an open access peer reviewed journal with no charges, invites you to participate
Hi

Did you know about Wikiversity Journal of Medicine? It is an open access, peer reviewed medical journal, with no publication charges. You can find more about it by reading the article on The Signpost featuring this journal.

We welcome you to have a look the journal. Feel free to participate.

You can participate in any one or more of the following ways:
 * Publish an article to the journal.
 * Sign up as a peer reviewer of potential upcoming articles. If you do not have expertise in these subjects, you can help in finding peer reviewers for current submissions.
 * Sign up as an editor, and help out in open tasks.
 * Outreach to potential contributors, with can include (but is not limited to) scholars and health professionals. In any mention of Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, there may be a reference to this Contribute-page. Example presentation about the journal.
 * Add a post-publication review of an existing publication. If errors are found, there are guidelines for editing published works.
 * Apply to become the treasurer of the journal
 * Join the editorial board.
 * Share your ideas of what the journal would be like in the future as separate Wikimedia project.
 * Donate to Wikimedia Foundation.
 * Translate journal pages into other languages. Wikiversity currently exists in the following other languages
 * Ceština, Deutsch, Español, Français, Italiano, 한국어, Português, Slovenšcina, Suomi, Svenska, Ελληνικά, Русский, العربية, 日本語
 * Technical work like template designing for the journal.
 * Sign up to get emails related to the journal, which are sent to . If you want to receive these emails too, state your interest at the talk page, or contact the Editor-in-chief at.
 * Spread the word to anyone who could be interested or could benefit from it.

The future of this journal as a separate Wikimedia project is under discussion and the name can be changed suitably. Currently a voting for the same is underway. Please cast your vote in the name you find most suitable. We would be glad to receive further suggestions from you. It is also acceptable to mention your votes in the email list. Please note that the voting closes on 16th August, 2016, unless protracted by consensus, due to any reason.

 D ip ta ns hu Talk 13:34, 11 August 2016 (UTC) -on behalf of the Editorial Board, Wikiversity Journal of Medicine.

Publishing Hippocampus in WikiJournal
Hi David,

Would you like to join as an author in the project of having the article Hippocampus published in WikiJournal of Medicine? WikiJournal of Medicine is an open-access journal with no publication charges of any kind. Published articles will be given standard citation formats and DOI codes so that they can be cited by external works. Before publication, all articles undergo peer review, so after this is done I would like you to join the task of amending any issues that arise from it. I found you among the most active contributors to the article. To be displayed among the main authors of the publication in WikiJournal of Medicine, you need to agree and sign the "Submission letter", and you should also write your real name. In any case, we'll attribute contributors by a link to the article history of Hippocampus.

Cheers,

Mikael Häggström (talk) 08:29, 12 October 2016 (UTC) Editor-in-chief, WikiJournal of Medicine

Issues in Hippocampus
Hippocampus has now been peer reviewed by a neuroscientist, discovering several issues: Wikiversity:The Hippocampus#Peer review comments. Could you help out in amending these issues? Mikael Häggström (talk) 14:35, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

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Special:WantedTemplates
Hi! Would it be possible for you to add  to the top and   to the bottom of User:Diberri/Template filler/googlebooks.wtf.autolink.user.js? By putting these tags inside of javascript comments, it won't impact the functionality of your script, but it will keep the backend software from transcluding Template:"+template name+". You will know if the tags worked if Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:"+template name+" no longer shows your javascript page. By fixing these, we can keep the number of entries in Special:WantedTemplates to a minimum. Thank you in advance for your help! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. Done. David Iberri (talk) 05:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chocolate with Jacques Torres


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Nomination of Chocolate with Jacques Torres for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Chocolate with Jacques Torres is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)