User talk:Gerda Arendt/2018



Did you know ...

... that Rabbi Michael Robinson and 15 other Reform rabbis were arrested and jailed after answering Martin Luther King's call to stand with him for civil rights in St. Augustine, Florida? (20 December)

... that the 1964 church (pictured) for the new parish Zu den heiligen Engeln (To the Holy Angels) in Hanover was designed by Josef Bieling to symbolize the tent of God among men? (18 December)

 ... that Camille Saint-Saëns composed the Messe de Requiem in memory of his friend and patron, Albert Libon, and conducted the first performance in 1878 at Saint-Sulpice in Paris? (18 November, the day we learned that Shock Brigade Harvester Boris died



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Thank you
Thank you for the positive comments at the AI thread. Hard spot for anyone to speak up when a gang of editors are attacking someone....thanks. All my fault I took the bait. I really don't see a point in commenting anymore as they don't seem to care about accessibility dispite studies and reader after reader saying something. I will still have fun watching these guys scrabble all the time this comes up. It's to bad and funny because most of them are great editors. I spoke up about every 3 months or so...but think things are personal between me and Cass now..thus think it's best to let others deal with his odd inflamitory attitude. --Moxy (talk) 18:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Agree, - I just stopped commenting, it's a waste of time. I add infoboxes, and when, I add a new one, - for the readers. 2017 is the year of reformation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * 2018 is the year of serving with joy, - still applies. I'd advise everybody to stay as far away from the infoboxes topic as they can. There are so many other good things you can do here with the limited time we are given in life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Cantata query
Hi Gerda, are you up for a Cantata Query please? It has ****-all to do with Wikipedia really so I would email you if it's OK. Bribery terms highly negotiable! Cheers DBaK (talk) 15:53, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * go ahead --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Emailed you just now. Sorry in advance ... Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit, BWV 106? Can't be said too often. Happy 2018! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh good grief, how beautiful and how deliciously weird too! The boss is out walking doggies right now but I have downloaded the Suziki Vol. 2 (I love the Cantata article structures!) and I'm going to play it to her as soon as she is back. Just from her description, I think you have nailed it - you amazing knowledge repository you! Thank you so much and Happy New Year to you too. I'll get back to you when she's heard it (watch this space) but I think I know the outcome ... with all good wishes DBaK (talk) 13:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Absolutely nailed it, thanks: you star. We are now listening to Suziki and JEG. So great - many many thanks DBaK (talk) 14:27, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Magnificat and Nunc dimittis (Gloucester)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:04, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Music
Hello Gerda. I’ve just read today’s featured article, Der Psalm 100, and saw you had something to do with it. For that effort I thank you. I would also like to ask if you are a musician. My mother taught me to play piano when I was a child - she played piano for the small Southern Baptist chapel she grew up in in a small town in the Southern US. I hadn’t touched a (musical) keyboard for nearly 25 years (except upon visits to my mother) until this Christmas when my wife surprised me with an electronic piano as a gift. I have greatly enjoyed relearning the true wonder of music these past few days. I was so incredibly surprised that I still remembered the notes to Minuet WoO 10, No. 2 (Beethoven)! Today I am thankful to be able to appreciate music and have a desire to learn more about it. Mr Ernie (talk) 03:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much, Mr Ernie! I almost cried when you mentioned your mother because today is the birthday of my mother, and the day was chosen because this is so, DYK? In loving memory I recall that she had sung all the time I can remember, and I got a piano - something she would have loved to learn but her family couldn't afford it - when I was ten. Professionally, I did something else, but the love of music stayed (I have an infobox on my user page), and yes, this past Christmas was especially musical, - happy 2018! The psalm by Reger (celebrated in 2016) is a giant work, and carries what I stand for: rejoice, serve, serve with joy, reflect, come together to dance and give thanks. There's a YouTube link if you want to listen to us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for St. Nicolai, Lüneburg
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Heinz Wunderlich
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Singers
Well, to be fair, I've also known a few singers who weren't musicians, so... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cristina Pasaroiu
Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Diethard Zils
Servus Gerda, ich habe in der deutschen Wikipedia die Werkangaben bei Diethard Zils ergänzt, für den Fall, dass du sie hier auch ergänzen möchtest. LG und Gutes für 2018 --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 10:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Danke, später vielleicht, bin im Urlaub. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ...gute Recreation! LG--Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 16:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Propsteikirche, Dortmund
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Gerda
Just a message that on 30 December–11 January I was in Addenbrookes Hospital with a stroke. I was lucky that I mostly recovered my vocabulary; and I was also fortunate that on 12 January I was able to play BWV 653, "By the waters of Babylon I sat and wept", on manuals and pedal (our 1708 baroque organ). Perhaps I might play one of the Reger 52 "easy" chorale preludes on that organ as a tribute. Regards, Mathsci (talk) 09:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Shocked and relieved! Makes us remember what's important. I pay tribute to my parents, above, did you see? I wanted the image on 1 January, but today is even better. I grew up in Dortmund, Aplerbeck, to be precise. Article will grow, I'm on vacation. - All the best for your health. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mass, Op. 130
Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:03, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Diego Fasolis
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mark Milhofer
Gatoclass (talk) 03:47, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Christmas Lullaby
Mifter (talk) 15:32, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lorenzo Viotti
&mdash; Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans  // 03:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125 scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125 has been scheduled as today's featured article for 2 February 2018. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/February 2, 2018. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, will check! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "In the third movement, Bach set the librettist's text differently than the interspersed hymn quotations, but unites both all with a continuous "motif of joy" in the accompaniment." Could you rephrase? I don't know what that means. - Dank (push to talk) 21:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that's your job ;) - Long version: Bach sets the elements recitative and chorale differently, rendering the librettist's text in "rhythmically free diction of recitative",[24] and the chorale as arioso. He unifies the movement by a continuous motif in the strings, called "Freudenmotiv" by Dürr, which "always indicates an underlying mood of happiness". - Explanation: the text combines the librettist's words and quotations from Luther's hymn, not one after the other, but switching several times. See here, librettist's normal, hymn bold. Bach set the librettist's words as recitative, but Luther's as arioso, with the accompaniment the same throughout for both: a motif that stands for joy (Freude). Please try, - this is an outstanding movement (both text and music are unusual), so should be mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I like your version, but ... the motif is repeated over and over, and Freudenmotiv is a symbol of joy rather than plain and obvious "joyful". But I guess it works for a casual reader. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

"We are not amused"
Your comment turned out to be far more prescient than I think either of us could have imagined! I hope you're keeping up with events. I know you said you're on holiday but if you take a sideways look at all the drama it's hilarious in a Kafkaesque sort of way. (Sorry, I know that word is grossly overused but you get the idea.) nagualdesign 02:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * For me, amusement is a kind of joy, see just above, call it a deliberate joy perhaps. I translate the title as "in peace and joy I let go" and try to live by it, could also say "without [the time waste of] discussion, but amused I go away". Sing a new song! Rejoice, serve! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I've woken up rather less amused than when I went to bed. Even when the bad guy ends up in the clink I can't help wondering if he's going to be alright in there. I feel responsible. That's a positive thing though, right? Better than not giving a f**k, that's for sure. Ah well. nagual<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b></b> 13:18, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You came past my edit notice "Every editor is a human being." - no? I tell it myself, again, again, again, again ... - A friend died 2 years ago, - all the rest is of minor importance, kafkaesque at best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * As the day went on I began feeling better. I remembered The Place of No Pity. <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em"><b style="color:#000">nagual</b><b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b></b> 21:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Good, no self-pity ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Ilona Durigo
I have done a quick translation, but I was not sure of the meaning of Kopfregister and had to guess at repertoire, you may need to correct that. I have left the original in the footnote for reference. Moonraker (talk) 10:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Not repertoire, but a vocal technique thing, resonance in the head (Kopfstimme = head voice), rather than chest/breast (Bruststimme = chest voice). Thanks for undertaking that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I thought it was something I didn't understand. I'll leave it for you to correct. Moonraker (talk) 10:52, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, let's look at it:
 * Frau Durigo sang these and all other songs (with those added there were nineteen) ... with the deepest perception.(?1) Her own experience of the songs(?2) expressed itself (?3) not only in the musical differences of enunciation (the tones of her repertoire, so wonderfully fine, so poetry-transfigured, were never heard before from any singer),(?4) but also in the sparkle of her eyes, the true mirror of the soul,(?5) as it came and went. And that her interpretation throughout captured the perceptions of the composer, showed the perfect harmony between her splendid singing and the exceptionally(?6) beautiful piano playing of Schoeck.(?7)


 * Frau Durigo sang diese und alle anderen Lieder (mit der Zugabe waren es 19) ... mit tiefster Empfindung. Ihr eigenes Erleben dieser Lieder äusserte sich nicht allein in den musikalischen Vortragsdifferenzierungen (so wunderzart, poesieverklärte Töne, wie die ihres Kopfregisters, hörte man vorher von keiner Sängerin), sondern auch im zu- und abnehmenden Glanz ihrer Augen, dieses wahren Seelenspiegels. Und dass ihre Interpretation durchwegs das vom Komponisten Empfundene zutreffend erfasste, bewies die vollkommene Harmonie ihres herrlichen Gesanges mit Schoecks eigenartig schönem Klavierspiel."


 * Is "perception" (Wahrnehmung) really "Empfindung"? as in Empfindsamkeit? I'd roughly think "feeling", "sensitivity", "open for the sentiment". In other words: you can perceive without a soul, but not "empfinden" without one.
 * "Erleben" should be experience of what is going on in the song, rather then repertoire. She lives what she sings.
 * "äusserte sich" means simply "showed", - now put that in idiomatic, - I don't think you can personalize "experience" (or whatever better word you find) as some "it" that has an expression.
 * the whole phrase in brackets needs rewording, after adding "head voice", - "so wunderzart" is explained/illustrated by all the details that follow, therefore should be at the beginning.
 * "... of her soul", no?
 * "eigenartig" means "one of a kind" or "unique", - today almost always used in a negative way, but not then.
 * The whole sentence should be the other way round: the harmony between her and the pianist/composer showed that she had the right sensitivity for his songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Gerda, I'd say most of these German words for abstract ideas don't have an exact equivalent in English, you can't nail them down precisely. It was only a quick translation, and some of your choices are better.
 * Yes, sensitivity is better here than perception and feeling.
 * You seem to be agreeing with the word experience. I did say repertoire was a complete guess, as I had never come across that word Kopfregister.
 * äussern is cognate with utter, the root meaning of it is something like giving voice to. If here the writer means showed or displayed, then we could bring in one of those, or perhaps an English writer would say shone through in.
 * I turned it around because it sounded a little awkward, but we can of course keep the German word order if you think there's a particular reason for it.
 * The German doesn't specify anyone's soul, and that term mirror of the soul is a standard English idiom. So if we said mirror of her soul, we should be adding an emphasis that isn't there.
 * On eigenartig, I'd say individual is nearer the meaning than unique? I don't sense that the writer is saying Schoecks Klavierspiel was uniquely beautiful, and I think exceptionally gets to about the right level of praise. If we said "individually beautiful" that sounds weird, believe me.
 * I left it as it was because I could make it sound okay in English, but the perfect harmony is the active noun in the sentence, so it does come out better if turned around, as you suggest. I once heard Giscard d'Estaing give a speech in French that was being simultaneously translated for an international conference in Sweden, and after a few small jokes he commented rather drily that the Germans mostly laughed last, because the verb finds its way to the end of the sentence.
 * So perhaps we get to this -
 * "Frau Durigo sang these and all other songs (with those added there were nineteen) ... with the deepest sensitivity. Her own experience of the songs shone through, not only in the musical differences of enunciation (such wonderfully fine, such poetry-transfigured tones of the head−voice were never heard before from any singer), but also in the sparkle of her eyes, the true mirror of the soul, as it came and went. And the perfect harmony between her splendid singing and the exceptionally beautiful piano playing of Schoeck showed that her interpretation throughout captured the perceptions of the composer."


 * Moonraker (talk) 12:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Splendid. Please add that. Minor: how about "intentions" of the composer, rather than "perceptions", - concept? ideas? feelings? - every single one not good enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I have updated the page. Moonraker (talk) 04:43, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I enjoyed it. You can get ready for the translation of the title page of Schemellis Gesangbuch ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Moonraker, here it's transcribed: Musicalisches Gesang-Buch, Darinnen 954 geistreiche, sowohl alte als neue Lieder und Arien, mit wohlgesetzten Melodien, in Discant und Baß, befindlich sind; Vornehmlich denen Evangelischen Gemeinen im Stifte, Naumburg-Zeitz gewidmet --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Freundliche Vision
Moonraker, today it's Freundliche Vision from ''Der Neubestellte Irrgarten Der Liebe: Um Etliche Gaenge Und Lauben Vermehrt, Verliebte Launenhafte, Moralische Und Andere Lieder, Gedichte U. Sprueche. Bis 1905.''. I'd translate "friendly vision", but the publisher says "welcome vision", another translator "A pleasant vision", and you? And that "launiger Titel", alluding to the features of a romantic maze for lovers? - Soon, please, will be DYK in less than an hour. I found the trouvaille only now, expanding towards GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Flowery language
Thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Zu Bethlehem geboren
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:16, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear...
In response to your comment: -- Clearly, Gerda, you are suffering from a touch of selective reading. Gnome points out in his post that comments can be removed if they are "...harmful posts, including personal attacks, [and] trolling...". His comment on the Shelley talk page has nothing to do with the subject in hand and is a response to a now 8-day old comment. It is designed to belittle and patronise the people on the other side of the argument and that does not make for constructive editing. I would consider that to be "trolling" and "harmful" to the project as it is taking other editors away from improving the project to comment on this. No response required and your welcome to revert.  Cassianto Talk  10:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm simply warning the neophyte of the dangers inherent in the toxic environment created by the childish and amateurish anti-infobox fanaticism. (Sample case in point, here. Lots more around but I can't be bothered.) I happen to find your comments in almost every thread and your general behavior extremely antagonistic, the opposite of constructive, and uncivil. In all my years in Wikipedia (about ten, so far), yours amounts to the worst violation of the code of civility by established editors I've come across. If you perchance find this "insulting," I'm sorry but that is not the intention. And you know what's sad? I checked up on some of your contributions and, if I may say so, in all humility, you still can be an otherwise quite valuable contributor to the project. Alas, you seem to have a temper shorter than Lady Gaga's hotpants! Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * How about the childish and amateurish infobox fanaticism? We see this on a daily basis - and yet nothing is said? Why do you assume that those who dare to have a differing opinion to you are "childish and amateurish"? With regards to my "civility"? Well, I'm not here to make friends; I'm here to write, and if people piss me off along the way, without good cause, then I'll tell them, as I would in a real life situation. I'm afraid I don't pander to the Snowflake generation. I have always maintained that I would never say something to someone on here that I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life. And I think I've been pretty consistent with that. I abhor ageism, sexism, racism, homophobia, and the mocking of people with mental health issues. So to say that I'm by far the worst offender, is entirely inaccurate, I assure you, as I've seen it and have been the recipient of it on more than one occasion. For someone whose supposedly been here ten years, I'd suggest that you've led a pretty sheltered life around here if you consider my comments to be the worst.  Cassianto Talk  17:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I concede that I do not see nor watch everything. :-) But this is the honest truth as far as I'm concerned: I both find your contributions to articles valuable and your behavior towards editors with whom your disagree extremely uncivil. Of course, you'd see this very differently. You state that you are "not here to make friends" but being civil is not the same as seeking friendships; the insinuation about physical confrontation does not help either (i.e. "I would never say something to someone on here that I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life"). That's great, neither have I ever. But this is not because I'd be scared or be afraid of getting my ass kicked, or something. Anyway, what can I say - ever since I fell upon it (some weeks of months ago), I found the whole "infobox brouhaha" something strictly for the funny pages. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 17:27, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Cassianto (and this is in response to your first message, edit conflict, but it's probably good for the other as well): I have a clear and simple policy about infoboxes on top of this page, summary: stay away from the topic as far as you can. There are people writing about them who don't understand the basics of our article, and it's tiresome to repeat the same things, for example "not necessary" (yes, of course not, nothing we do here is necessary), "redundant" (yes, of course, designed to repeat), and so on. Happy editing! It will be happier for everybody if the phrases "toxic", "insane" and "obsessed" are avoided. Remember? (2014) - I'd know a few more terms I really hate (and then being amused is more positive than despair), but let's try just those for a start. Alex, that . I wish you well with your attempt to improve the atmosphere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The trouble is, Gerda, you don't stay away from infoboxes, do you? You add them more frequently than they are taken away. Like this, for instance. What possibly possessed you to add that?  It is as ridiculous as the day is long. And when they are taken away, you make a note of them on your user page. You "thank" people who add them and snipe at those who disagree with you. You are as bad as Gnome, Jcc, and the rest of them, only you are passive aggressive about it.   Cassianto Talk  19:04, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I said "as far as you can", no? When I add to an article, I also add an infobox. Your edits to the article have been reverts only, right? Usually described as drive-by. I withdrew the DYK nomination. What I don't do because it's a waste of time is "discussing". I did it here only because you mentioned the example. - I don't believe Gnome and Jcc are bad, nor you, so I enjoy the company. Every editor is a human being. If I may ask for two more terms to please be avoided then "fanatic" and "passive-aggressive". - I thank people who correct my mistakes, who revert vandalism, and yes, those who support my view that an infobox is helpful for some readers, which is enough for me. Back in 2013, I pleaded "but is it possible if it's good for only ten people", like Abraham when he argued with God ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me what's helpful about the one you added on the Palm 149 article? I would suggest "nothing" as it carried only one field, "Hebrew", which is mentioned in the caption directly above it. Take that away and all you're left with is a box outline. This then begs the question why did you add it? You seem reluctant, or perhaps unable, whichever suits, to say why this is; uniformity, consistency, or aesthetically? Because I can tell you, it seems it's been added using not a lot of common sense.   Cassianto Talk  21:10, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * What did you not understand in "the repetitive discussions are a waste of time"? I will try to first understand more about these psalms, find more background and information, but need time for research. Some help finding out when that was written by whom would be appreciated. They are not all by David, nor all from the same time. I am new to the topic, and curious, and Yoninah has helped a lot already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * So unable or reluctant to then; I thought as much. The more people like you keep sticking your heads in the sand and hiding behind "civility" tags "own" accusations, or such as in this case, focusing on the discussion process rather than the cause of it, the more these discussion will be repeated. Sadly, until the next time... good evening.  Cassianto Talk  21:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You must confuse me with somebody. Civility was never my topic, nor did I say "OWN", and I hate tags. I wrote Der 100. Psalm, and will improve Psalm 100, and some others. To my understanding we have an unwritten agreement that I don't try to change "your" articles (Michael Hordern), - how about the same the other way round? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * 1). More selective reading; I said people like you use OWN and CIVIL, not you specifically. 2). There's no such thing as an "unwritten agreement" on Wikipedia as the alternative is a verbal one, and I'm pretty sure we've never spoken. 3). I will change what I like, when I like, and you can do the same; whether each other's changes have any merit or not is a different story.  Cassianto Talk  22:15, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * My logic seems to be different than yours, which perhaps explains some misunderstandings. 1) I would not say "people like you" if I didn't mean you also. How else can the "like" make sense? How about less "people", but be specific? 2) Not everything that's not written has to be spoken.
 * The only thing I revert is vandalism, otherwise I let writers pretty much do what they like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Your logic is different to mine, which perhaps explains this misunderstanding. 2) Aside from the power of positive thought and the sending of a carrier pigeon that pecks out a coded message on a piece of wet bark, I cannot think how this could happen. But who cares. I suspect this is was only said in order bolster up a rather weak attempt to make me feel guilty about removing a box from "your" article when you don't add them to "mine".  It doesn't.   Cassianto Talk  23:05, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no idea why you bring "feel guilty" into play. You don't sound like you feel guilty much. - I remember Max Reger, and it was written ("I will never convince you by argument, and you will never convince me by argument, so why not stop arguing and let people add an infobox (as long as it's not incorrect) if they like it, and others leave an article without it, if they like it." written June 2016). - Now, I need sleep. Even a fanatic, obsessed and passive-aggressive monster needs sleep at times ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * People can add infoboxes, but they should expect to have them challenged at any time, if someone deems them to be not fit for purpose. That's the beauty of having different opinions, you see; it's just the pro-box side think that everyone should just conform to their way of thinking, and if they don't, then they're just troublemakers. Not on my watch. Good evening.  Cassianto Talk  23:31, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: kindly get rid of the meaningless image caption in Psalm 100, IF you think you have to revert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Sing a new song
New day, and with a new idea, and encouraged by, I try to explain once more: The first sentence of infobox reads "An infobox is a template used to collect and present a subset of information about its subject, such as a document. It is a structured document containing a set of attribute–value pairs." That tells me: it has to present no additional information (but a subset, so is always redundant), and it is not restrained to information from the lead (but the whole article). I am used to these attribute-value pairs, being an opera lover, because a traditional opera plot begins with giving place and time of what follows. For me, an infobox - minimum version - does that: give me place and time for an article in a structured form. See Götterdämmerung: premiered when and where. See Beethoven: baptized when and where, died when and where, List of his compositions. - Cary Grant: A man's face, first word "Publicity", which is sort of fine for people who recognize the face. I and most of my cabal didn't go to the RfC there (wrong question: no word about restoration of a long-time infobox, no definition of a future one), as you may have noticed, - trying to leave things peaceful. For the psalm, Sing a new song, I don't know time and location yet, but will research. We have stub articles, why not tolerate a stub infobox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Because a stub article is readable in terms of its length. Why bother to write the sub at all if we can get away with filling out an infobox template? I’m not really concerned with the Infobox article you link to; I’m more interested in the MoS that advises that an “infobox is neither prohibited or required" which, although it’s sitting on the fence a little bit, is fair in its description. But I'm the first to recognise that such impartial writing from our "guide" is perhaps why so many disputes take place.   Cassianto Talk  12:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I can probably recite the "neither prohibited nor required" from memory. How many times was that quoted in discussions? The arbs ruled in 2013: "All editors are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions about infoboxes, and to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general." Perhaps that should be repeated more. - I don't get from your answer if you understand that "infobox is redundant" is never a good argument because it's the concept of an infobox to be redundant, and that all arguments mentioning the lead are also no good, because neither does all infobox data have to be in the lead, nor is it restricted to information from the lead. - I come from articles like this: The lead describes the character, while the infobox has the numbers. I like Imogen Holst.---Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "Decorum and civility" unfortunately, gets stretched to the limit when the same old discussions by the same old people, keep getting rehashed every couple of months on the same old pages; moreover, as with Shelley's article, on a page where an obvious consensus exists, but like the Brexit situation, certain sections of the community want a best of three situation in order to overturn a decision that doesn't sit with them very well. Alex Shih, and people like him, can virtue signal all they want about civility being more of a concern than the subject at hand, but why fix the sink when it's the tap at fault? Civility is a byproduct of the flawed infobox ruling, and this is exasperated by people edit warring, taking the moral high ground that "consistency is key" and "you don't speak for the readers, I do" kind of talk. This is aggravated by patronising behaviour, and people refusing to accept others views or any offers of compromise. Oh, and is Alex going to devise an "edit notice" for those of us who specifically opt to create articles without an Infobox? I shouldn't think not.   Cassianto Talk  16:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You manage beautifully to respond to the part of my comment that was less important (civility, - I said above it's not my topic), while my focus was "to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general". Example Cary Grant discussion: if you ignore the comments that speak about infoboxes in general, not much would be left. I am sure that Alex thinks of a "no infobox edit notice", because no other is needed. We pro-boxers (= fans of structured information) don't need a notice. Did you know that I have not edit warred once in my Wikipedia career? The closest I came to it was on Sparrow Mass, when I restored the preferred version - weeks later - after the edit war of others. I recommend strict 1RR to anybody who wants to listen. This old woman has not started an infobox discussion since Pierre Boulez (when he died, 2 years ago). Long live his memory. Stay away from any infobox stuff, is what I learned and try to pass on. Look at the pristine talk page of Imogen Holst, - that's the goal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I know, fancy me selectively reading another persons post.  Cassianto Talk  17:09, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * , if flawed infobox ruling from 2013 is the key problem, what remedy would you suggest? I am not actually so concerned about incivility; I think it's necessary to get things in order first, which I assume is what you meant by fixing the tap. I'll revert myself if you think edit notice is a bad idea, I was experimenting with thoughts reflected from reading comments by, to devise some sort of mechanism to reduce drive-by additions of infobox. Alex Shih (talk) 17:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Just to add, having watchlisted pages like Stanley Kubrick and Cary Grant recently does already gives me an small insight on how ridiculously frustrating it can be seeing edits like this one come up persistently. I am leaning toward the opinion that once a status quo has been established from extensive discussions, the status quo should remain in place unless if specific arguments about the article are proposed. But I'd like to know better solutions so that I can propose them to other members of the committee. Alex Shih (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you two perhaps talk on one of your pages? - About that edit: I never heard that editor's name, and believe they meant well. A little bit more AGF might also help. Seriously. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry Gerda, perhaps I went too far off, I'll go away. To be fair, you asked me to read the cordial exchange here, so I read them and responded with my thoughts. Anyway, I don't think it's a bad thing to be frustrated at ill-advised but perhaps well-meaning edits; I thought 's edit summary in his revert was fair and quite AGF. Alex Shih (talk) 18:05, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't have to go away if you talk to me. Ian is also someone who seems to be respected by all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You can talk to me,, on my talk page. It appears that Gerda is losing interest, despite the fact she keeps starting new threads about the same discussion, on her talk page.  Gerda, if you don't want people talking about this (and you do) then please don't keep starting new threads and baiting people into discussion.   Cassianto Talk  19:24, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You can talk to me, Cassianto, but - forgive me - it looked to me like you two wanted to talk to each other, about things such as the 2013 ruling which was flawed but who cares, and the history of two articles that I know too well, and about me in the third person. Talk constructively about the future, and I am ready. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd like to, Gerda, but it appears to, that I've been "hounding" you. It's a shame, as there's nothing like a good discussion to sort out differing opinions, and I was rather enjoying having a debate with you. Never mind. While I'm here, can you point me in the direction to Infobox architect?  I want to see what one is like. Best regards    Cassianto Talk  09:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I saw the case request, sigh. I corrected a name and try to stay out. Feel free to link to this, proving that normal talk is possible, and offer something for the future. Opabinia regalis had good advice for Joefromrandb whom I defended, quote "this pointless drama-escalation is a common community antipattern that really needs a fresh approach" (which goes for all sides, that's why I try to stay out). Anything good for you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We had an edit conflict, I saw the question about architect only after saving. No, I use infobox person for all people. It's aesthetically more pleasing than musician (example Philip Glass) and others, and best-maintained. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * William Burges, and the styling is as "person". Don't use image-size, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Precious to the one deserves it most
For the most precious of all for your kindness and unfailing efforts to find peaceful ways of dealing with all of Wikipedia no matter the provocation to do otherwise, for the poetry of your approach, and for your extensive contributions, dear Gerda.(Littleolive oil (talk) 17:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC))


 * Thank you, fits nicely with the monster needing sleep ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for In Exile (Sumsion)
Alex Shih (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Freu dich, Erd und Sternenzelt
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Narodil se Kristus pán for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Narodil se Kristus pán is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Narodil se Kristus pán until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- Gokunks (Speak to me) 23:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Thomasschule
Sure - I'll take a look in a little while and cobble something together. --<font face="Old English Text MT">Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Freundliche Vision
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten, BWV 202
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Erde, singe
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Děkuju!
Thanks for the message :) – filelakeshoe (t / c) <big style="font-family: webdings;"> 14:42, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Colette Lorand
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

My five years
Why thank you (though it seems like fifty ;)) Coretheapple (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. I noticed you no sooner than we missed 28bytes. - Thank you for your thoughts about consensus, which is not as obvious a fact as sometimes claimed. - Some days are heavier than others, but look for a bright vision here or here, - which image do you prefer? This perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't recall talking about consensus. I imagine I must have been sleepwalking! Coretheapple (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * . - I just wrote an article about a daydream, DYK? Read above, if you are interested in the translation of poetry, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Stern über Bethlehem
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Congrats for this new DYK! I've already forgotten how I did contribute to this one. What a drag it is getting old... But I still remember I owe you a translation of a text related to Stern über Bethlehem. I start right now! LouisAlain (talk) 09:55, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! You translated all this Elsass villages stuff ;) - Did you see that I found a video on the author's page (and added it) wich probably shows him conducting? - Today's Main page is lovely, colourful and playful, I think. Never had a DYK that expressed my obsessive fanatism with singing as well as this one, with its song sung sing ;) - + Lego + 28 January was the day when Pride and Prejudice was published. - - That's the name I gave to the last infoboxes arb case, DYK? pride and prejudice II, in . - A friend celebrates her 85th birthday, and I can't decide which article to devote to her, just sang Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt, and a piece of music was dedicated by her son to the memory of her husband, played by a pianist, who also played music dedicated to her (imagine three more red links), - but as it's Sunday, I may settle for the psalm verse that was the theme at the son's wedding, Psalm 103:2, and I remember the minister (who had already baptized the bride) saying: It's easy to remember the bad that has been done to us, but we have to call ourselves again and again to remember the good we received. Today, you two can just look at each other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

hello
Hello Gerda, I hope things are going well. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 12:42, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming over, and yes, they are, - today it's 6 years that I began Precious which I consider my best contribution to the site, - not my invention but I gave it the new name and keep it going ;) - Thank you for the references tool, although I haven't found the time to check it out. - I had inspiring conversations (see above), about a cantata and the finesse of poetic translation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm still working on the reference tool; it's far from done. Glad you feel inspired. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 15:17, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Lingzhi. Many sad experiences (beginning in 2012 when a friend was blocked and seemed lost for the project, which made the first "Precious") inspired me to write and expand today's article, which I translate as "let go". Sadly matching this call to do things as long as we can. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Most people would not consider me especially old (I am more than a decade from retirement), but I have various very noticeable and regrettable symptoms of mortality creeping up on me. Time marches on relentlessly. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 15:41, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This young man was 36. Let's not talk about age ;) - He said something I'd include in my edit notice if I had more space: "This user is a person, and nothing else matters." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Ilona Durigo II
Hey Gerda. I noticed a note at the above article has some considerable amount of text in German. That's not very helpful to English-language readers, especially when it comes to verification of claims in the article, so could you translate it please? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The German quote was translated by Moonraker and placed in a blockquote (where the German had been in a former version. Would you prefer it next to the blockquote? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Naomi Parker Fraley
Hi Gerda,

I have been following the emerging story of late Naomi Parker Fraley since 2014, when I became aware of it on Facebook, before the news media brought it out. She did prefer to be referred as Naomi Parker Fraley, as evidenced by her official websites: http://www.naomiparkerfraley.com/ which was set up on her behalf by her stepson John Fraley, and also you can see this same name usage on her gofundme page which was set up by her son and daughter-in-law, Joe and Marnie Blankenship: https://www.gofundme.com/MakingRosieCozy There has never been a hyphen, that's a media error. You can confirm this 3-name name usage yourself, if you are on Facebook, by joining the Group named Rosebuds, Rivets and Tribute Rosie's, and communicating directly with John Fraley: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1669457373337963/

Best, Jeannette — Preceding unsigned comment added by A2Ypsi (talk • contribs) 20:42, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Naomi Parker Fraley is the name of the article, and used in the article after she married Fraley, - I don't know what you expect. Or just support? Then thank you ;) - I have nothing to do with Facebook, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Lovely to see your name again! Alleluia! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * For Season's greetings, click on the green heart-leaf further up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ilona Durigo
Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Image
Hello Gerda, with regard to the image File:Durigó Ilona 01.jpg, the licence states ''Important: "the author is unknown" is NOT the same as "I don't know who the author is". You have to provide a reason why you think no one else can know it; otherwise the image shall be deleted.'' No reason is given by the uploader why he "thinks no one else can know it." Also, I took a look at the webpage where the file was uploaded from, and could see no information about the image there. Gatoclass (talk) 14:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I read that, but who do you expect is going to find out (and why would they?) who the photographer of this quite normal singer's portrait was, who must also be dead for a while when s/he took it around 1900. Looks like formality to me. The image is used in 7 Wikipedias, and not only in her bio, but we: we looked at another plant (as just two days ago) instead of the face of a woman. Compare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not an expert on image policy Gerda, strictly speaking I don't think the licence complies because we don't know who took the photo, but we also don't know whether somebody else knows or not. Just because an image is on the internet with no information, and the person who uploaded it to Wikipedia doesn't know who took it, doesn't necessarily mean that the author of the image is unknown. This may seem like a nitpick and perhaps it is, maybe the community doesn't worry about such niceties, but I was concerned that if I left the article in the lead that somebody would yank it from the main page and we would have a short set. Normally, I could have moved the image back to the main page for further discussion, but we were running late on the update and I didn't have time to search for a replacement hook. Gatoclass (talk) 15:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't blame you, especially in the condition you described. The image is in Wikipedias from 2014, that's quite a public forum, and I bet that somebody who had interest in the rights for that image would have spoken. But enough, I look at that old image with so much life, matching the review that was translated with loving attention to detail: "eyes, mirrors of the soul" (above, by Moonraker). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich
Gatoclass (talk) 05:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Valentine
I took the liberty of adding to the Lead after you signed off on the DYK because I also felt the Lead was too short. Also replaced the second You Tube clip in the box, as the one I removed was a dead link. The replacement is a video of MC singing the chorus and using the substitute 'piton' and nose pointing. David notMD (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I like it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Great job on Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125
G'day Gerda, great job with this TFA. Over 20K views! Nice work. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:50, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Did you notice that peace is in its name, as in yours? And joy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Yampa (ship 1887)
Gerda,
 * I recently created this article. I'm not sure on the correct way to say "German Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm II." Also is it correct to say "Kaiser Wilhelm" in the body of the article like in, Kaiser Wilhelm immediately started the steps to acquire her for himself.[9] The German Emperor bought the yacht from Palmer in December 1897. Am I writing this correctly. Thanks for help on this German terminology.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:17, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I can tell you that "German Emperor Kaiser" is too much of a good thing. "German Emperor Wilhelm II", or "German emperor, Kaiser Wilhelm II.". The German numeral dot after II is a problem in English, perhaps give the German only once in brackets and say "the emperor" (lower case) for the rest of the article. - Not really my field of expertise, perhaps Parsecboy knows better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for help and advice.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:00, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd say either of Gerda's solutions are good ones, though I would lean toward the second one. Parsecboy (talk) 12:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Award
Thank you very much for the award. I feel honored. Have a nice week. :) --Góngora (Talk) 18:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, back from the opera --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

That should do it. Sorry - slipped through the cracks. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:33, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * If you think so ;) - Most of the people would not have known the school under that name. You could populate with people from the school's entry, and create a teachers's cat, Amantio? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well...maybe it's not the most popular name. But it's the name of the article, so that's what I wanted to go with. I can run AWB to populate later tonight, if I have time. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Name of position is Thomaskantor, name of choir is Thomanerchor (see talk), name of school should be Thomasschule, but I learned (at least up to a certain point) when a fight is useless. How about a sentence in the cat clarifying that it is not any St. Thomas School, but THE Thomasschule, where Bach taught, and the others? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you do it, please? I've run into a vandal on the category page - - and I don't want to hit WP:3RR cleaning up after him. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:01, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Went ahead and blocked him - I can continue now. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. (But you can revert vandalism without counting. I just reverted the same on the church article.) Any admin watching? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I've asked for a bit of help - should be taken care of now. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I was blind ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, well, it's quieted down, and I've made a start on things. Not sure when/if I'll be able to finish the lot. Not until tonight at the earliest. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:28, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

User:Eltomas2003
Hi Gerda, your ping at this user's talk page didn't work for some reason. I just now saw your message so I do apologize. I appreciate your offer to mentor him, but I suggest your efforts may be better spent elsewhere. He was not blocked because he couldn't follow the rules at WP:FAC, although that may be a byproduct of his youth/immaturity or a language barrier. He was blocked because he was unwilling to listen to any kind of advice or instructions, and his reaction to attempts at guiding him were to vandalize the articles he was working on (see here and here to start, but there are others including image vandalism). I don't think he possesses the maturity (and possibly the English fluency) to contribute constructively here. -- Laser brain  (talk)  19:10, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I see your point, Laser brain, which is shared by Iridescent who said ". Well, I came to see who the user was who translated a FA to Spanish, and - as I saw then - also the other one with the unspeakably long name. I saw that the user did strange, erratic, incomprehensible things, - I had reverted one of his page moves (I assume Tomas means male), but didn't remember the name when I returned, - can't remember all names of vandals I revert. I see that the person seems to speak Spanish better than English, signed on only recently, may have been born in 2003, and did some things with good intentions, - which is enough for me to not give him up yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)


 * As always, your positive attitude is a model for as all to aspire to. Have a great week! -- Laser brain  (talk)  12:36, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK review of Emil Fröschels
Thanks for your DYK review of Emil Fröschels. I've responded on the DYK page. I also just translated another article and nominated it for DYK: Sainte-Anne Hospital Center, a hospital in Paris with historical significance. Thank you very much for your kind attention and suggestions. Robert K S (talk) 07:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Anniversary
Dear Gerda, Thankyou for my Precious Anniversary greeting, and a Happy New Year to you. I am not sure that I always display the virtue for which the blue gem was awarded, but then six years is a long time in which to be consistently wise (especially given some of this year's vicissitudes). I seem to have got some writing done this year, anyhow, all rather historico-biographical. One of these days I must get back to a few more missing musicians. Very best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 22:51, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I echo this. Thanks for not giving up on some of us old grumpy Wikipedians. Sometimes a simple thank you can really motivate someone in burn out. Dave (talk) 06:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


 * You made my day! A good anyway, with another lovely Main page, - I reviewed and nominated the TFA, and I sang in the last concert of the conductor mentioned below, who chose the Brahms Requiem on a Good Friday, invited "my" then choir to sing along with the Opernchor, wanted to see us all in white but knew he would not get it. "Ihr habt nun Traurigkeit". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Karl Maria Zwißler
Alex Shih (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Smaug alert
Thanks so much for the kind words. The hot rods & customs are dear to my heart, & the coverage on WP is pretty awful... Any help you can offer on, frex, Hirohata Merc, hot rod, custom car, or any of the drag racing pages, would be more than welcome. (I ask everybody who shows the slightest interest. ;p )  Gollum  <sup style="font-family: cursive; color: #880085;">mine, all mine!  23:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not exactly my field of expertise, but on my watchlist now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Alessandro Solbiati
Gatoclass (talk) 00:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Box problem
Hi Gerda! As I'm not too familiar with boxes, I though you might be able to help with the one on Alincia Williams-Grant. It links to "United States Senator" but I can find nothing in the box providing that link. Perhaps you can fix the problem?--Ipigott (talk) 14:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ipigott I am not at all familiar with politicians, but looked around. Usually, senators have infobox officeholder, which has a parameter |state_senate1 = insert state". Now she is president, and has infobox president. I don't know if she could also have the other, - president is also an office ;) - Looking further: it's the line "|jr/sr1       = Director, Board of Directors of the Antigua Commercial Bank (ACB)" which causes the entry, which I commented out for now. - Help, anybody looking? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Gerda. It now looks fine. Amazing what can turn up unexpectedly. The box sequence obviously needs attention to avoid similar problems in future but I have no idea who is reponsible for such things.--Ipigott (talk) 16:11, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


 * First I'd look at the (not too good) documentation, for how that other function could show. Then you could look in the history of the template, and/or the talk, whom to ask. Simpler: ask on the template talk. - Now I laughed: officeholder and President are the same. - Another point: red links in a box should be avoided, - no problem in the article, but there I didn't see it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Castellania, Valletta
Gerda Arendt please note that the Castellania (Valletta) article is mainly my work, even though the article was not created by me. I received some assistance from Xwejnusgozo at some point, who is the administrator. Please feel free to improve the article and other articles about Malta. Thanks.Continentaleurope (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Siegfried Lorenz (baritone)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:38, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Peer review of Faith in Buddhism
I would appreciate your input here before I submit this for FA. Thanks!--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:22, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the invitation. I'll do that but you'll need patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Good Lord
Has it really been that long? How time flies. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes. Lo dicono a Signa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Aplerbeck
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

RealSound
Gerda, do you know of RealSound (RS) is a generally known classical record label in Europe? I have a feeling it may be notable, but I've never heard of it. Thanks! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:59, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Never heard of them, but that means nothing. Will look, but am on vacation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Enjoy your time off!   78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 19:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Phoenix Arising
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

The Cloisters
First of all, I appreciate your post on my talk and elsewhere this morning; I think you hit the nail on the head and I take your point. Anyhow, ts over now. Second of all (ahem), any interest in helping with the PR review for the Cloisters...after your vacation of course, but would be glad of your input and views. Ceoil (talk) 10:57, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Today's hike over, up to a mountain. - I will look at the Cloisters, my pleasure, it's a place I love. I remember a concert of early music there, when the same man sang both countertenor and bass. - There's a good thread on Eric's talk, where the frustrated meet for letting steam off ;) - Did you know that Eric coined the term "cabal of the outcasts", in 2013? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: In 2013, I got sanctioned because I defended a friend, Andy. Today, you got blocked because you defended a friend, Cassianto. ignore ignore ignore, - let's write articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well I certainly feel like an outcast, but "let's write articles" is the perfect solution, as always. Onwards Gerda. Ceoil (talk) 12:17, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

A hook with a sic tag
For this hook there is an editor suggesting a hook with a sic tag in it. The hook does appear interesting. What's your take on this?-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 16:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Gerda, ich danke dir herzlich für deine Kommentar
This is the first time in long years that I receive such a nice, sweet and warm comment, namely the one you placed on my Talk Page. After several years of frustration and disappointment with Wikipedia, where I've had many edits and some articles vandalized, erased, distorted, challenged, or otherwise threatened, it is comforting to encounter a caring soul like you. Just...what is a sweet nice girl like you doing in a hostile place like this?

I can see your zeal and dedication to classical music, especially that from your compatriots. I myself am a devoted fan of Johann Sebastian since I was 11 and learned my first exercises authored by him. I cannot stop enjoying his music, and among the many performing artists that have made it available to us, I have a special regard for Wendy Carlos and her extraordinary renderings, particularly her Switched-On Brandenburgs albums.

Note: I had long forgotten that reference I had added to the Joseph Jongen article, I just was (and still am) proud of having added the word "monumental" to the opening paragraph about his Symphonie Concertante, which it well deserves. Well, to make this short, it's been a pleasure to meet you, even if you are a nine-year-old girl (which I don't believe or understand, but accept nonetheless). :)

Thank you! --AVM (talk) 02:19, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much! What a nice message to wake up to! - I make music here, normally related to what I sing in choirs, Look at my infobox: who is 9 years old? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
You just made my day! --Maor X (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Love to hear that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

No thanks
Greetings. Any idea if giving thanks to a contributor for their edit is no longer a function? I can't seem to find a way to do that. Thanks. -The Gnome (talk) 18:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't work, and some are working on it. I get that message first thing when I open my watchlist. I stopped giving clicks, at least for a certain topic, because I didn't like the analysis ;) - Did you know that a "low" was reached when I clicked thanks to a person for ? - I enjoy good old written thanks as just above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Glad to know it isn't just me being thankless! Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 20:37, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Darkness Shines
Gerda, can you tell me what this is all about please before I revert it. The edit summary is insufficient, and as far as I know, Sitush is not an admin. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:24, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Kudpung, there's no reason - as far as I know - not to tell our readers about a user whose edits they may encounter. Would you understand ? I will not fight, it's just sad. Ah how futile ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: Tony, you asked if all is well with me. No, it isn't. Vacation is great. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks as if else has already reverted you - and they have my support. Tchja - Admins auf eigene Gefahr zurücksetzen! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:24, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ... which was reverted by another admin who has my support. I am in no danger, just sad. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * And, though Bish has re-reverted, I will note that, we generally leave user-page blanking to the discretion of enacting-sysop. ~ Winged Blades Godric 11:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you think I am interested? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * This is inspiring! &#8209; &#8209; Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones&#160;The Welsh Buzzard &#8209; &#8209; 11:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, I am glad the vacation is treating you well, at least. I need to go on one myself. I was thinking a nice desert somewhere: those are always nice this time of year. Always good to run into you, Gerda, whatever the circumstances . TonyBallioni (talk) 11:31, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I love the deserts of the southwest. Good for introspection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * If I may, I also support Bishonen's action. This is an area for nuance, not for some rigid "But The Rulez Sez So" knee-jerk response...there are community bans and then there are community bans; we do not—should not—treat editors with many positive contributions and 132 articles to their name like some salted LTA...it was a sad story, and now it's over.  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 11:56, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * In archiving, I read again "It's easy to remember the bad that has been done to us, but we have to call ourselves again and again to remember the good we received." (Psalm 103:2) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Cyberpower, better late than never, I invite you to read the above, and perhaps next time leave a user page in place which is informative for our readers who may want to know about the person whose edits they encounter. - DYK that back in 2012, we had a community ban which made me feel that I wasn't part of the community? - That's when I added the cat to my user page "... who took the liberty to stay" which is there to stay, and called the process "pride and prejudice". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

no title
please stop deleting my posts I am only doing it for a class if you want to delete it by all means go for it but leave it up for 1 week then delete away I don't care about the submission at all in any way I have never used wiki in my life and I wont after this stop being a jerk and let me get my grade in class — Preceding unsigned comment added by Athsquare (talk • contribs) 23:46, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * "replied" your talk before you came here. - Adding: if adding speculations to a biography under the header "After life" (after Ian Rose told you to at least use the standard "Legacy") gets you a grade something is wrong with your teachers, sorry. Also, for your next round of edit-warring: you don't have to tell me to stop because I believe that friends will help me, - that is called 1RR - only one revert, unless it's severe vandalism. Your speculations were only borderline. - Have a good day, and think about it. There's an image on top mentioning introspection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This discussion is hilarious.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 13:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Christopher White (pianist)
Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Images Faith in Buddhism checked
I have checked the images in the article Faith in Buddhism, and I have added tags where necessary. I think it is okay now, though I am not an expert on copyright.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 13:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Our expert is Nikkimaria. This is for peer review, going for FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Whenever you're showing something three-dimensional, you need to know whether the country of origin has freedom of panorama, and if no you must include a tag for the original work as well as the photo. Also, when you're showing something two-dimensional, under US copyright law the photographer gets no copyright – it is all the original author. So for example the photographer has no right to release File:Manjusri_Painted.jpg, it depends on the wishes of the artist. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I'll recheck and try to fix.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 15:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not directly related to Faith in Buddhism, but related to the freedom of panorama:, would you say a relief like File:Sariputra_and_Maudgalyayana_become_disciples_of_Buddha_Roundel_31_buddha_ivory_tusk.jpg falls under freedom of panorama in India? I am uncertain whether it is considered 2d or 3d.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 19:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Pending an answer to my question above, I'd also like to state that I checked the article Faith in Buddhism and found one image with no copyright of the original author, as you already mentioned, and three images from countries with limited freedom of panorama. One of these was uploaded by a user that has retired, and can therefore not be asked about it. I have therefore removed it. Two other images involve statues that might have been recently built, and I am checking with the uploaders when they were built now. This concerns the images File:Maitreya_Buddha.jpg and File:Seiryô-ji Buddhist Temple - Statue of Hônen.jpg. So... to be continued.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 21:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you think of copying this conversation to the article talk? - I'll archive soon, trying to keep no more than 50 messages. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Done, and continued there.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 22:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for St. Lubentius, Dietkirchen
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Francis does it again
Hi Gerda,

Francis Schonken has removed one of my edit because "it doesn't seem like a prominent example". See Talk:Responsories for Holy Week Removed because not a prominent example?. Please let me know what you think about it.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * If you want to pursue it, find a solid reference. What do you think of the neat tags on An Wasserflüssen Babylon? Someone seems to have too much time, while I have too little. - Funny, I wrote the Poulenc articles mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Pieter-Jan Belder
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Dmitry Belosselskiy
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda
Thanks for your supportive words and best wishes from snowy London. Mick gold (talk) 08:27, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming over. Sunny but icy where I am. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Happy St. David's Day
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:beige; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> The leek is one of the national emblems of Wales, worn along with the daffodil (in Welsh, the daffodil is known as "Peter's leek", Cenhinen Bedr) on St. David's Day. According to one legend, King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd ordered his soldiers to identify themselves by wearing the vegetable on their helmets in an ancient battle against the Saxons that took place in a leek field. Cheers!&#8209; &#8209; Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones&#160;The Welsh Buzzard &#8209; &#8209; 15:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! and I didn't even know all that when I began an article on a David today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

I enjoyed and was touched
getting up this morning and discovering your precious memory. Or more precisely, my precious memory. In keeping with a few other precious memories and traditions, here is My View at the Phoenix AZ, USA annual Icelinders Bash (my name, not theirs). It (your post) is a reminder that I have left a large sculpture project only half full and should return to it. Carptrash (talk) 16:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! - I have a psalm project only begun, and should continue. How lovely is your dwelling place, was on my mind in the desert (my view, pictured on top), but I lift up my eyes to the mountains might fit even better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

A premiere recording of Bruckner's Entsagen
A premiere recording of Bruckner's cantata Entsagen, WAB 14 (16 February 2018) by the Coro "De Musica Antiqua" de Salamanca with Maria Espada (soprano) can be heard on Youtube: Bruckner - Entsagen --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Anny Felbermayer
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Danka
I keep finding your signature in various places, following a sane comment in the midst of strife. Just wanted to reach out and say thanks, and also for Brahms' birthday, as well as all of the musical information and shared joy. Much needed. Under-appreciated. rags (talk) 00:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Music in my ears, very welcome, especially "shared joy". How lovely ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

How do you do it
I've never been foolish enough to take my scaly WikiDragon hide above the clouds into the WikiHeavens - I only ever see burning planes falling from those clouds to crash in the WikiFields. Sometimes I see hear the gunfire of the editors above, but then Dr. Blofeld's plane crashed in the sward before my mountain, and I didn't even see Jaguar's end. I'd seen on your talk page and a couple of others people thanking you for your levelheadedness, and I have to wonder - how to manage the insanity that apparently lives beneath the floorboards of Wikipedia? What happens if you can't any longer? – Vami _IV✠  08:50, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * What you call insanity is just our human condition, described well on this 1510 image. What I do? I was made immune when I survived the first pride and prejudice when a friend who gave up was banned by the community afterwards. I felt that I didn't belong to such a community, and felt the urge to leave, but then thought that some would just love that, and decided to stay. From then on (we talk October 2012), it was easier to ignore ignore ignore minor things. Dr. Blofeld has called me a princess and a monster, so I have mixed emotions. Also, he always returned after a while, so far. Same for Jaguar. I miss GFHandel who left us in 2013, and never returned. We just had the birthday of Handel, who wrote He was despised (see above, and follow the links) in 1741, on a text by Isaiah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, I won't ever leave if you don't. ;) – Vami _IV✠  09:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Johannes Hill for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Johannes Hill is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Johannes Hill until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. PabloMartinez (talk) 18:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Der Gemischte Chor Zürich
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you have a quick look at the two cite errors? Agathoclea (talk) 09:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Possible DYK for nice image


This very recently downloaded image and a carefully written of the caption might be something that you might quite like, possibly as a DYK. Peter Williams describes these as "one of the best bars in the whole of P 271".

Best wishes, Mathsci (talk) 12:17, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hopefully no rush, March is reserved to mostly women (look today at Miriam Makeba, pictured above) and Lent and Easter. - Any expansion (as long as sourced) to An Wasserflüssen Babylon welcome, nominated with another such image (not as clear though). That's an article that could eventually go to GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * During my recovery from stroke, the first thing I tried to read (with huge difficulty) was Psalm 137 on News Year's Day. I am not quite sure why you wrote Psalm 84. An Wasserflüssen Babylon was the first piece I played on the chapel organ on BWV 653 the day after being discharged. Mathsci (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing the wrong number out, - the other was on my mind in the desert (pictured above) - no rivers. - Touching, your personal memories, thank you for sharing. Would you know where to find a translation of 137? When I search for the translator, I get only other hymns, and the remark that his poetry was not so great. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The article Psalm 137 and the wikisource are fine. The King James Bible forms part of the Protestant heritage. Perhaps the lines could be broken up into shorter fragments to match Luther's version. Mathsci (talk) 14:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Dachstein's version? - Yes, could be broken up, - I added the psalm verses only yesterday, and think today more of women and singing in defiance - Ich steh hier und singe was and is my only defense. (See above a short summary of how I manage to still be here. It's one of these days that I wonder why.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There are actually six verses (the 6th is just the standard blessing, Ehr sie dem Vater und dem Sohn, und auch dem Heilgen Geiste, ...). For a literal version see Anne Leahey's translation (Chapter 2 in J. S. Bach's "Leipzig" Chorale Preludes: Music, Text, Theology) which is mostly based on Mark Bighley's 1986 book, The Lutheran Chorales in the Works of J.S. Bach. You could also make an English variant of the literal version which doesn't sound too slilted in addition to the King James version. There is also the Latin version, Super flumina Babylonis. There is furthermore an online OUP version of Stinson's "J.S. Bach's Great Eighteen Organ Chorales", which could be useful. (By this stage there might well be online options such as a singing "google button" or even perhaps a "surgically implanted microchip".)  Mathsci (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

 * Thank you, good timing! I try, and try (failed), and try (we'll see). - Now tell me how to get kind to myself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Kind to yourself? Have a chocolate milk, obviously. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * And not some store-bought Quick. Pure Dutch-processed coco and white sugar 50%-50% in a bottle, shaken, left in the fridge, and shaken again. Lovely! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * (ec) Would you tell the singer? - Kind in the sense of forgiving, I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: reading Nänie (the poem) helped somewhat, - promised myself to expand that article on my mom's anniversary of death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think I see what you mean now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Playing Bach's Sinfonia in F minor also helped somewhat, corresponding to what Mathsci wrote above about recovery, and writing the article when all say no. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Anna is right about the chocolate, though I prefer it warmed. I wish I had some good music to post. Still looking for something just for you that is okay to post. Kafka Liz (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * In archiving, I read again "It's easy to remember the bad that has been done to us, but we have to call ourselves again and again to remember the good we received." (Psalm 103:2) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Cyberpower, better late than never, I invite you to read the above, and perhaps next time leave a user page in place which is informative for our readers who may want to know about the person whose edits they encounter. - DYK that back in 2012, we had a community ban which made me feel that I wasn't part of the community? - That's when I added the cat to my user page "... who took the liberty to stay" which is there to stay, and called the process "pride and prejudice". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Johannes Hill for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Johannes Hill is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Johannes Hill until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. PabloMartinez (talk) 18:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Possible DYK for nice image


This very recently downloaded image and a carefully written of the caption might be something that you might quite like, possibly as a DYK. Peter Williams describes these as "one of the best bars in the whole of P 271".

Best wishes, Mathsci (talk) 12:17, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hopefully no rush, March is reserved to mostly women (look today at Miriam Makeba, pictured above) and Lent and Easter. - Any expansion (as long as sourced) to An Wasserflüssen Babylon welcome, nominated with another such image (not as clear though). That's an article that could eventually go to GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * During my recovery from stroke, the first thing I tried to read (with huge difficulty) was Psalm 137 on News Year's Day. I am not quite sure why you wrote Psalm 84. An Wasserflüssen Babylon was the first piece I played on the chapel organ on BWV 653 the day after being discharged. Mathsci (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing the wrong number out, - the other was on my mind in the desert (pictured above) - no rivers. - Touching, your personal memories, thank you for sharing. Would you know where to find a translation of 137? When I search for the translator, I get only other hymns, and the remark that his poetry was not so great. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The article Psalm 137 and the wikisource are fine. The King James Bible forms part of the Protestant heritage. Perhaps the lines could be broken up into shorter fragments to match Luther's version. Mathsci (talk) 14:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Dachstein's version? - Yes, could be broken up, - I added the psalm verses only yesterday, and think today more of women and singing in defiance - Ich steh hier und singe was and is my only defense. (See above a short summary of how I manage to still be here. It's one of these days that I wonder why.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There are actually six verses (the 6th is just the standard blessing, Ehr sie dem Vater und dem Sohn, und auch dem Heilgen Geiste, ...). For a literal version see Anne Leahey's translation (Chapter 2 in J. S. Bach's "Leipzig" Chorale Preludes: Music, Text, Theology) which is mostly based on Mark Bighley's 1986 book, The Lutheran Chorales in the Works of J.S. Bach. You could also make an English variant of the literal version which doesn't sound too slilted in addition to the King James version. There is also the Latin version, Super flumina Babylonis. There is furthermore an online OUP version of Stinson's "J.S. Bach's Great Eighteen Organ Chorales", which could be useful. (By this stage there might well be online options such as a singing "google button" or even perhaps a "surgically implanted microchip".)  Mathsci (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

 * Thank you, good timing! I try, and try (failed), and try (we'll see). - Now tell me how to get kind to myself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Kind to yourself? Have a chocolate milk, obviously. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * And not some store-bought Quick. Pure Dutch-processed coco and white sugar 50%-50% in a bottle, shaken, left in the fridge, and shaken again. Lovely! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * (ec) Would you tell the singer? - Kind in the sense of forgiving, I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: reading Nänie (the poem) helped somewhat, - promised myself to expand that article on my mom's anniversary of death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think I see what you mean now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Playing Bach's Sinfonia in F minor also helped somewhat, corresponding to what Mathsci wrote above about recovery, and writing the article when all say no. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Anna is right about the chocolate, though I prefer it warmed. I wish I had some good music to post. Still looking for something just for you that is okay to post. Kafka Liz (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank yo, very sweet of you. Answering a caring question: I thought I was clear enough above, saying where I failed, but I could say plainly that I mourn the death of Halibutt, and miss The Quixotic Potato, Laura, DS and Joe, - all this year. Aus der Tiefen ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I don’t know everyone anymore - but I see names there I recognise and will miss. Don’t know if I’ve given you this before; apologies if it is a repeat Kafka Liz (talk) 13:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Just what I needed, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Gerda! I just dropped by to say hi and see how you were getting along with your fishes when I saw this discussion...Wow!! I never got a chance to collaborate with any of those editors but I recognize the user names. I hope this isn't indicative of a pandemic. 😳
 * When you don't know a user, just look at Precious: 1322 106 856 284. Follow the second link and look for my name, - one of the highest honours ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar

 * Thank you, I try. We have a great program for Good Friday, but I'm too tired to write it down now. Tomorrow perhaps. Mostly Bach, including O große Lieb, o Lieb ohne alle Maßen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Marcel Cordes
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! The year just started, perhaps you want to turn to earlier user pages ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Oops, I have created a redundant category, how do I get rid of it?
Hi Gerda, I thought I was being very clever, created a category called "Musicians who died while performing", but there's already one called "Musicians who died on stage". How to I undo my error?

Thank you, HandsomeMrToad (talk) 06:02, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Any delete request: you put the letters db within paired curly brackets, and give a reason after | db. The cat is not redundant, because a conductor in the pit is not on stage, perhaps discuss a move of the other cat? Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the response. At this point I think I will leave the whole thing in the hands of more seasoned Wiki-masters than myself.  Like, perhaps, you!


 * When I thought of the category I was thinking of opera singers: Leonard Warren, Hermann Uhde, and Gösta Winbergh.


 * -- HandsomeMrToad (talk) 20:43, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * There's Lully also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Catherine Rückwardt
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the Precious Gerda! RachelWex 18:19, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Initiated vs. triggered
Hey there, maybe we find a third word as a solution? “Initiated” has too much intention in its definition (“Wortfeld”). Thanks :) OnSpeech (talk) 16:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey back, please keep that to the article talk. It was like that all 2017, unquestioned. Reformation is quite on top my user page, pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Katharina Sellheim
— Maile (talk) 00:12, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Scherzo (Stravinsky)
Gatoclass (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

you made my day
Thanks so much Gerda for your kindness and all your work to improve this Wikipedia. What a delightful message from you. The very best regards to you. Govindaharihari (talk) 05:43, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, and it's not just a phrase, - nice to meet you!--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Bach motets
Hey Gerda, you may well know this, but Cantus Cölln just did a concert of the Bach motets BWV 225–230 plus Ich lasse dich nicht, BWV Anh. 159. I just heard it on the online listening service of ABC Classic FM via this link on their site, and it was incredible! Amazing musicians, amazing music ... just wow all around. Hence why I've been making random tweaks to Bach motet articles. Graham 87 12:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for sharing! I performed Ich lasse dich nicht and Der Geist hilft, and love the others. I heard the cantata mentioned on top last Sunday, a revelation. I loved particularly that the soloist sang with the youth choir, inspiring them! He made a tour singing Bach cantatas with Andreas Scholl who was at a time also a member of Cantus Cölln, - small world ;) To make the world smaller even, our conductor taught a bit of piano to Scholl so that he could pass the Basel audition. As a token of thank, Scholl came to sing "He was despised" (also on top) with us, and you could have heard a needle fall - all these rests between the stammered words, "despised, rejected", - written by Isiah long ago and still true again and again, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow, that must've been a moving experience. The pauses in "He Was Despised" are very, very effective. It's a small world indeed! Graham 87 13:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It was. I took most of the pics in his article, - sad that you can't see them. I remember chatting with him and his lovely wife, - with her in line for the restrooms ;) - that was shortly before the Messiah concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Camilla Nylund
Gatoclass (talk) 00:19, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * WOW!!! Yoninah (talk) 13:28, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw that actually on television. The Drum had a segment about getting more female Wikipedia contributors, and illustrated it with a screenshot from the main page. Ms Nylund couldn't be overlooked. It's at about 38:30. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Catherine Lynch AfD
Gerda: I'm sorry that I tested your patience. I stand by my decision to relist the article, but perhaps the timing was wrong; I should have waited a week at least before relisting the article for AfD. At any rate, I can certainly understand why you didn't want it relisted again so soon; you were forced to defend your opinion just a day after the article was closed. This debate has gotten unnecessarily heated. Please accept my apologies. <span style="font-family: 'Lucida Console', Monaco, monospace">Centibyte <span style="color: dimgray; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace">(talk) 14:21, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Apology taken. - You can't know that I miss friends (well, just look on top of this page, for just 2018, and one retired while I went for a walk). One of them always said "teh rulez" when people knew exactly how things have to be. I reviewed around 1000 articles for DYK, and I have feelings for some of them beyond the rules. I should probably apologize for that. - How about writing three articles before going the AfD path? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Joke?
I'm a bit curious about your claim that you were born in 2009, as you started editing in 2009. Is it a joke? <b style="color:#060">L293D</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b> • <b style="color:#000">✎</b>) 22:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking at the infobox on my user page. Please look again who was born in 2009. Seriously, the templated dates in infoboxes are a great feature! Any date in any language! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Faith in Buddhism
Any more tips before i nominate for FA? I'd appreciate it.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 17:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)  Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 17:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Farang Rak Tham, it looks good to me, well-structured and illustrated. Two minor points: I'd not need the See also section. The red links of authors: I'd turn them blue, or leave them without link, or find an interlanguage link. Good luck! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Done, and thanks!- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 17:16, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, you deserve this

 * Thank you! "Awesome" isn't a word I'd use much but I only continue a tradition of some who used it. - What you call effort is actually good for me, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Zofia Posmysz
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Orpheus question
Hi Gerda. Do you have an opinion about this? Talk:Orfeo ed Euridice

Thanks, HandsomeMrToad (talk) 07:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for asking, replied there. No fan of anything labelled "famous" ;) - I played a marionette (Orpheus) in the last act once, it's music I know well and love. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The novel The Scarlet Pimpernel specifically identifies the opera as Gluck's.


 * I chorused several years ago in Gluck's O&E behind soloist (Orfeo) Nicholas Tamagna the contertenor, now a big international star based in Germany with opera companies flying him all over the world to perform. He just auditioned for the Met to play Akhnaten in Philip Glass' opera.  The Met called him and invited him to audition.  Here's a YouTube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWpLZ0sJ7u4 - Enjoy.  HandsomeMrToad (talk) 07:24, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. - I didn't mean for the Pimpernel, where it's clear, but that in general a reference to O & E doesn't always come with whose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Full boar
Why is it that my MilHist German was perfectly adequate to translate Clifford E. Charlesworth, but was hopeless when it came to Austrian delicacies? Hawkeye7  (discuss)  10:14, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Possibly because, like America and Britain, Austria and Germany are two countries divided by an (almost) common language. (without prejudice to Strine, of course). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:00, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Guess my nationality!
Hi Gerda, Take a look at Rosa Raisa. Read that lede real quick and see if you can guess! Tommy Doyle 05:33, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice article. Will need to find out which part in Turandot she created. - I hope that you are not disappointed when I tell you that I don't care about nationality ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Nationality is so mixed up now, it's hard to use it as a serious way of seperating people, but we have to have categories I guess. It's merely a strong divisionary tool in modern politics, which can be seen today in countries like Poland and Ukraine, or even the AFD in Germany. As far as that article goes, if they'd added one more nationality, I might've thought it was a hoax. But it was funny when I first came upon it. I see you mention images at my talk. I don't add a px parameter. Should I set the display at 200px/250px? I haven't done much with images, so I have no idea. I'm listening to an aria by Carl Freidrich Abel as I type this. It's called La Belle La Grime, and the soprano is Emma Kirkby. I hope you're listening to some beautiful music too. ;^) Tommy Doyle  21:45, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. About pics: for a moment I thought you wrote the article. Pics should normally be standard size. If larger is wanted, it should not be fixed pixels, but upright up to 1.3, from 0.7. (WP:IMAGESIZE} - The last great music I heard live was Aus der Tiefen, here, with Johannes Hill as soloist. For Good Friday, we prepare two chorales (4 and 5) from the St John Passion, and much more. For Easter: Alleluia, and much more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * All we have in Boston right now is a symphony of snow, ice, and wind...  Tommy Doyle  01:20, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * We hear it here also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * 33°C here in Udon Thani. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:33, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Prehistory of BWV 56
BWV 56 seemed to have specially chosen by me in April 2009 with about 50 consecutive edits. It must have been one of my favourites. Ah, the Good Old Days. Mathsci (talk) 17:44, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I like that. You probably know my story with it? ... and the program of the concert? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Category:Operatic tenors
It's tenor time! I wanted to thank you for the encouragement Gerda. I probably wouldn't have thought of sorting all the opera singers without you. Tommy Doyle 18:52, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * In archiving, I read again "It's easy to remember the bad that has been done to us, but we have to call ourselves again and again to remember the good we received." (Psalm 103:2) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Cyberpower, better late than never, I invite you to read the above, and perhaps next time leave a user page in place which is informative for our readers who may want to know about the person whose edits they encounter. - DYK that back in 2012, we had a community ban which made me feel that I wasn't part of the community? - That's when I added the cat to my user page "... who took the liberty to stay" which is there to stay, and called the process "pride and prejudice". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Happy St. David's Day
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:beige; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> The leek is one of the national emblems of Wales, worn along with the daffodil (in Welsh, the daffodil is known as "Peter's leek", Cenhinen Bedr) on St. David's Day. According to one legend, King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd ordered his soldiers to identify themselves by wearing the vegetable on their helmets in an ancient battle against the Saxons that took place in a leek field. Cheers!&#8209; &#8209; Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones&#160;The Welsh Buzzard &#8209; &#8209; 15:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! and I didn't even know all that when I began an article on a David today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Danka
I keep finding your signature in various places, following a sane comment in the midst of strife. Just wanted to reach out and say thanks, and also for Brahms' birthday, as well as all of the musical information and shared joy. Much needed. Under-appreciated. rags (talk) 00:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Music in my ears, very welcome, especially "shared joy". How lovely ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

How do you do it
I've never been foolish enough to take my scaly WikiDragon hide above the clouds into the WikiHeavens - I only ever see burning planes falling from those clouds to crash in the WikiFields. Sometimes I see hear the gunfire of the editors above, but then Dr. Blofeld's plane crashed in the sward before my mountain, and I didn't even see Jaguar's end. I'd seen on your talk page and a couple of others people thanking you for your levelheadedness, and I have to wonder - how to manage the insanity that apparently lives beneath the floorboards of Wikipedia? What happens if you can't any longer? – Vami _IV✠  08:50, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * What you call insanity is just our human condition, described well on this 1510 image. What I do? I was made immune when I survived the first pride and prejudice when a friend who gave up was banned by the community afterwards. I felt that I didn't belong to such a community, and felt the urge to leave, but then thought that some would just love that, and decided to stay. From then on (we talk October 2012), it was easier to ignore ignore ignore minor things. Dr. Blofeld has called me a princess and a monster, so I have mixed emotions. Also, he always returned after a while, so far. Same for Jaguar. I miss GFHandel who left us in 2013, and never returned. We just had the birthday of Handel, who wrote He was despised (see above, and follow the links) in 1741, on a text by Isaiah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, I won't ever leave if you don't. ;) – Vami _IV✠  09:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Possible DYK for nice image


This very recently downloaded image and a carefully written of the caption might be something that you might quite like, possibly as a DYK. Peter Williams describes these as "one of the best bars in the whole of P 271".

Best wishes, Mathsci (talk) 12:17, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Hopefully no rush, March is reserved to mostly women (look today at Miriam Makeba, pictured above) and Lent and Easter. - Any expansion (as long as sourced) to An Wasserflüssen Babylon welcome, nominated with another such image (not as clear though). That's an article that could eventually go to GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * During my recovery from stroke, the first thing I tried to read (with huge difficulty) was Psalm 137 on News Year's Day. I am not quite sure why you wrote Psalm 84. An Wasserflüssen Babylon was the first piece I played on the chapel organ on BWV 653 the day after being discharged. Mathsci (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing the wrong number out, - the other was on my mind in the desert (pictured above) - no rivers. - Touching, your personal memories, thank you for sharing. Would you know where to find a translation of 137? When I search for the translator, I get only other hymns, and the remark that his poetry was not so great. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The article Psalm 137 and the wikisource are fine. The King James Bible forms part of the Protestant heritage. Perhaps the lines could be broken up into shorter fragments to match Luther's version. Mathsci (talk) 14:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Dachstein's version? - Yes, could be broken up, - I added the psalm verses only yesterday, and think today more of women and singing in defiance - Ich steh hier und singe was and is my only defense. (See above a short summary of how I manage to still be here. It's one of these days that I wonder why.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There are actually six verses (the 6th is just the standard blessing, Ehr sie dem Vater und dem Sohn, und auch dem Heilgen Geiste, ...). For a literal version see Anne Leahey's translation (Chapter 2 in J. S. Bach's "Leipzig" Chorale Preludes: Music, Text, Theology) which is mostly based on Mark Bighley's 1986 book, The Lutheran Chorales in the Works of J.S. Bach. You could also make an English variant of the literal version which doesn't sound too slilted in addition to the King James version. There is also the Latin version, Super flumina Babylonis. There is furthermore an online OUP version of Stinson's "J.S. Bach's Great Eighteen Organ Chorales", which could be useful. (By this stage there might well be online options such as a singing "google button" or even perhaps a "surgically implanted microchip".)  Mathsci (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Gerda, I have created the Hymn tune (or melody) for An Wasserflüssen Babylon following the pattern for Vater unser. I hope that is OK with you. Mathsci (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * That's great, thank you, and for all the other finds for that article! - Today is a funeral, and the featured article is by a great user we miss, The Age of Reason, may it come. She was missed by another great user who wrote on African-American literature and Shakespeare and keeps the list of those of us who died. She wrote Uncle Toms Cabin, which was quoted in the first Good article I nominated, not by me, Great Dismal Swamp maroons. - To the memory of the missed, whether dead or in the desert or in the Great Dismal Swamp! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

If you're reflecting on Easter and the Passions, then BWV 621 might be a suitable Lutheran hymn for you. Mathsci (talk) 07:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. Will write next year if I'm still alive. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Mathsci, I'm expanding BWV 100, thinking of you a lot, - all the work you put in the related hymn. I use the hymn lead image for now, but it would make a better difference to have Bach's autograph, - any chance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There is an autograph manuscript of BWV 100 which can be digitised at very high resolution; the easiest for me is to use the Commons template for BWV 98. Mathsci (talk) 12:21, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't seem to have acknowledged my digitised image: did you forget? Now that I have repaired my old laptop (damaged while the stroke occurred—actually when I was editing wikipedia!), it was very easy to dezoomify and crop the image, exactly as I did on BWV 99.


 * I have also tried to continue editing in the the spirit of your DYK hook as much as I could. One of the sentence is essentially adapted from you, with some tweaks by several other users:
 * "The arrangements of "An Wasserflüssen Babylon" by Reincken and Pachelbel—along with the chorale prelude "Nun freut euch, lieben Christen g’mein," BuxWV 210 by Dietrich Buxtehude—comprise the earliest extant transcriptions of Bach, copied on a 1700 organ tablature in Lüneberg when he has still a youth; remarkably, they were only unearthed in Weimar in 2005."
 * I hope that is OK. Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 08:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

 * Thank you, good timing! I try, and try (failed), and try (we'll see). - Now tell me how to get kind to myself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Kind to yourself? Have a chocolate milk, obviously. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * And not some store-bought Quick. Pure Dutch-processed coco and white sugar 50%-50% in a bottle, shaken, left in the fridge, and shaken again. Lovely! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * (ec) Would you tell the singer? - Kind in the sense of forgiving, I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: reading Nänie (the poem) helped somewhat, - promised myself to expand that article on my mom's anniversary of death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think I see what you mean now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Playing Bach's Sinfonia in F minor also helped somewhat, corresponding to what Mathsci wrote above about recovery, and writing the article when all say no. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Anna is right about the chocolate, though I prefer it warmed. I wish I had some good music to post. Still looking for something just for you that is okay to post. Kafka Liz (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank yo, very sweet of you. Answering a caring question: I thought I was clear enough above, saying where I failed, but I could say plainly that I mourn the death of Halibutt, and miss The Quixotic Potato, Laura, DS and Joe, - all this year. Aus der Tiefen ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I don’t know everyone anymore - but I see names there I recognise and will miss. Don’t know if I’ve given you this before; apologies if it is a repeat Kafka Liz (talk) 13:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Just what I needed, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Gerda! I just dropped by to say hi and see how you were getting along with your fishes when I saw this discussion...Wow!! I never got a chance to collaborate with any of those editors but I recognize the user names. I hope this isn't indicative of a pandemic. 😳
 * When you don't know a user, just look at Precious: 1322 106 856 284. Follow the second link and look for my name, - one of the highest honours ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Catherine Rückwardt
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Katharina Sellheim
— Maile (talk) 00:12, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

you made my day
Thanks so much Gerda for your kindness and all your work to improve this Wikipedia. What a delightful message from you. The very best regards to you. Govindaharihari (talk) 05:43, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, and it's not just a phrase, - nice to meet you!--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Bach motets
Hey Gerda, you may well know this, but Cantus Cölln just did a concert of the Bach motets BWV 225–230 plus Ich lasse dich nicht, BWV Anh. 159. I just heard it on the online listening service of ABC Classic FM via this link on their site, and it was incredible! Amazing musicians, amazing music ... just wow all around. Hence why I've been making random tweaks to Bach motet articles. Graham 87 12:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for sharing! I performed Ich lasse dich nicht and Der Geist hilft, and love the others. I heard the cantata mentioned on top last Sunday, a revelation. I loved particularly that the soloist sang with the youth choir, inspiring them! He made a tour singing Bach cantatas with Andreas Scholl who was at a time also a member of Cantus Cölln, - small world ;) To make the world smaller even, our conductor taught a bit of piano to Scholl so that he could pass the Basel audition. As a token of thank, Scholl came to sing "He was despised" (also on top) with us, and you could have heard a needle fall - all these rests between the stammered words, "despised, rejected", - written by Isiah long ago and still true again and again, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow, that must've been a moving experience. The pauses in "He Was Despised" are very, very effective. It's a small world indeed! Graham 87 13:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It was. I took most of the pics in his article, - sad that you can't see them. I remember chatting with him and his lovely wife, - with her in line for the restrooms ;) - that was shortly before the Messiah concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Camilla Nylund
Gatoclass (talk) 00:19, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * WOW!!! Yoninah (talk) 13:28, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw that actually on television. The Drum had a segment about getting more female Wikipedia contributors, and illustrated it with a screenshot from the main page. Ms Nylund couldn't be overlooked. It's at about 38:30. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, you deserve this

 * Thank you! "Awesome" isn't a word I'd use much but I only continue a tradition of some who used it. - What you call effort is actually good for me, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Zofia Posmysz
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a record for me: 1,254 pageviews per day. Notably, while at WP:DYK Zofia Posmysz received 25,808 pageviews. I have always believed that a collaborative working environment makes the project more successful than it might otherwise be. So, here it is. Thank you again, Gerda Arendt.   Poeticbent  <span style="color:#FFFFFF;font-size:7.0pt;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk  20:24, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree, and it was a record for me as well, for DYK at least. Until 14 March, 10k+ was the highest I got, and most musicians and pieces stayed in the 3-digit-range. Then came Camilla Nylund (see above), the first 25k+, helped by a screenshot of the Main page on TV. Zofia Posmysz is just a great topic! I hope to see the opera in Frankfurt where I saw Nylund as well. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott
Gerda Arendt, I just found this unclosed nomination template from last November for an article that doesn't seem to exist in mainspace. Unless there's a reason not to, I'm going to be closing the template as no longer relevant. Thanks for letting me know. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:01, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * As soon as it was created, and I thought it was my gift for the Reformation Year, the content was moved to the archive of A Mighty Fortress. I am not in the mood to fight, nor to set up said archive properly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, and I'm sorry it didn't work out. I'll close it, then. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:01, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Categories
Hallo!

I'm in a quandary right now! There exists at least 2 categories of which one seems to be redundant with the other. Categories:French sopranos and French operatic sopranos.

I'm prone to think that a soprano has to be an operatic one unless she specialises in mélodies or operetta. If we discount Nina Hagen and Nena, all sopranos are operatic ones. I intend to delete the "French sopranos" category and replace it by "French operatic sopranos" unless otherwise stated. There's no need for an article to bear 2 categories of which one is redundant with another. And of course it works for any nationality. What do you think? LouisAlain (talk) 14:07, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I'd leave French sopranos for those (probably few) who never sing opera, and give (only) the other to the others, -- most sing concert at some time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Vatican II
I'll concede the point on Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI, but why remove the year the Vatican I conference was disrupted by the Italian Army taking control of Rome? I thought the date gave historical context for those, like me, who have no idea when the previous conference was. I'm reverting that part unless I hear otherwise. JDspeeder1 (talk) 01:06, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Sarah laughs
WOW that was quick:. Pity it´s not colour, Tissot is a very WP-friendly artist. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:40, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It's not only in the Bible that humor is underrated, or not immediately found. People keep telling me that I once used "amused" in an edit summary, and were not amused ;) - A friend was cited to ANI because he wrote "I just have fun seeing them deal with the problem again and again and again." - that was on New Year's Day 2017, but is still on top of this page, - as a warning: beware of humor! - 5 years ago today, I thought an infobox for Bach was a good idea. I still think so ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Bruckner's Landmessen in Linz
Dear Gerda,

Last year Michael Stenov performed with his Cantores Carmeli Bruckner's Kronstorfer Messe during the Holy Week (Palmsunday and Maundy Thursday) in the Karmelitenkirche, Linz. Recordings of these peerformances are available on YouTube.

He let me just know, that he will perform this year again on Palmsunday and Maundy Thursday the Messe für den Gründonnerstag – a revival of these two Landmessen. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:50, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


 * That looks promising. Some of what we plan to sing these days is here. No Bruckner, but Stainer, Wood and Thompson. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a bit Bruckner after all, Christus factus est, Maundy Thursday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Pavitra papi
I would like to understand why you have undone this change? The official title is Pavitra Papi not "Paapi". The page has an obvious typo error.


 * I saw image name, article name, and this. If they are all wrong - and the image looks like it - image name and article name need to be changed. I can't tell. - Please sign your posts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

A thank-you barnstar

 * blushing once more ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Flutes
Just saw this article pop up on New Page Patrol - I don't suppose you can think of a suitable DYK for it? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:24, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Travelling, - do we have a few more days? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It was created a few hours ago, so no problem. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  23:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Elsa Cavelti
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK
Did you know that „Jesus bleibet meine Freude“ was performed during Kardinal Lehmanns funeral? It was amoungst his favorite recordings.--Symposiarch (talk) 14:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * No, thanks for sharing. He spoke very well before the performance of Britten's War Requiem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Easter DYK review
Hi Gerda, The C of E here. I just wanted to ask you if you could please review alt7 for Template:Did you know nominations/Christ the Lord Is Risen Today because I really would like to run this on Easter as I worked so hard on this specially so it could. Thank you. The Royal C (talk) 09:58, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I tried. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Heiwadai
I'm responding here instead of the DYK nom page as I don't want to add material after your approval tick. I've added more geographic detail, was that along the lines you were thinking? Regarding the park description, I'm not sure what to add. I'm 11215.86 km away, and so need Google maps to see it. It seems to consist mostly of wooded hills, though there is a playground/football field on the northwest corner. These are not in the reliable sources, though. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:31, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I thought some source might say what kind of park it is, but don't add if not ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, and keep editing happily! (I click "thank you" a lot, and like a barnstar in return, even if it looks a bit oversize.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Too late
I could be wrong. But I don't think editors are allowed to comment at talkpages of a closed case. GoodDay (talk) 13:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I only replied to someone who missed a Point. To my understanding, talk stays open even when a case is closed, but I was lectured before about adding to workshop-talk after workshop closed, - no problem ;) - This talk is open! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I never miss a point :), to clarify, I think they do stay open but editors are advised they may not be watched after the case closes.  —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap shit room 13:50, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I undid my reply on the case page. SN, you may perhaps never miss a point, but here a WP:Point ;) - The arbs unfortunately didn't tell us simple and plain editors how to treat the earlier reverts of someone who could not perform such a revert now. . --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the WP:POINTy edit was Volvogia's, not yours, and I linked to him not you. So you shouldn't have thought I was in anyway commenting on your behaviour, which has, in many respects been rather restrained. The edit I linked to I saw as near-trolling; I did not see your edit all. Does that make sense? —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap shit room 14:10, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't see about whom and what you talked until I clicked on the link, - until then what I read matched what I had just done: revert one of these reverts by someone now on probation (about which Cassianto and I even had a long discussion afterwards, on this page, before the case opened, archived). Frank Matcham is, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * But that's three years ago! :o  —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap shit room 14:27, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * So? I keep being told my sins of five years ago ;) - The addition of an infobox could also be an answer to Cassianto's question from said discussion, this year: "It's a shame, as there's nothing like a good discussion to sort out differing opinions, and I was rather enjoying having a debate with you. Never mind. While I'm here, can you point me in the direction to Infobox architect? I want to see what one is like. Best regards" - Do you remember me saying in the case that the whole problem could be solved by assuming good faith? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I recall you doing so. I agree that there no statute of limitations, but a) good faith, I suppose, encourages us to assume that editors have grown and matured from whatever they were like five years ago, and it certainly should not be held against anyone (I'd express a pretty strong opinion if I saw it today!), but having said that, when behaviour (such I was originally referring to) is much more recent, then it should be called out, if only perhaps, pour encourager les autres generally, and specifically to encourage a change in attitude which might be seen five years later :) —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap shit room 14:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

DS alert
Case has closed. --RexxS (talk) 21:26, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I always wanted to find out what DS means, also who can honestly claim to be uninvolved. Is adding an infobox to an article you expanded 5 times disruptive? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

WP:FORK
Why have you assisted in creating a content fork using a lot of my material on images and content? Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 22:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Assisted? I asked a question on a talk. - I recommended to focus on the hymn in the hymn article, - it's only logical to cover the compositions separately, - proper attributions should happen, of course. - Tristis est anima mea, - getting ready for the Holy days. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Johannes Hill
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Herr Jesu Christ, du höchstes Gut
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Message
I've send you a message: de:Benutzer Diskussion:Gerda Arendt --Habitator terrae (talk) 08:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you, but please see (on top) that I'm busy these days - singing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Ein Brownie für dich!
Sweet, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Willem Ravelli
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ein Lämmlein geht und trägt die Schuld
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, one of these is #1000, perhaps the quirky ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK Medal

 * Thank you. DYK that 500 was also on a Good Friday, 2014? Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Congratulations Grimes2 (talk) 14:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Kirsten MacKinnon
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Psalm 84
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Psalm 84 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farang Rak Tham -- Farang Rak Tham (talk) 21:01, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

200 DYK nominations
Hi, I'd like to give you your award, but am not sure how to determine the total. Do you have a special page listing your nominations? Or is there a search engine I could use? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I keep counting. Talk page and it's archives. I don't know if DYK has any other stats. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yoninah, what I would do is search for the phrase "which you recently nominated" in the yearly archives. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll try. But one of these days, could you make a dedicated page for your noms? This is what I did: User:Yoninah/DYK nominations. Yoninah (talk) 23:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I got to 100 with no questions asked. - I am a bit reluctant to duplicate (any) information, - how would that be more trustworthy than my counting on the stats page? - I think it would be better if the DYK process kept track. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yoninah, a friend made me list of them, send me an email and I will mail it to you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Erschienen ist der herrlich Tag
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mindia
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Julian Podger
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Messe für den Gründonnerstag by Michael Stenov
Hi Gerda,

Following my suggestion, Michel Stenov performed during the Holy Week of last year the Kronstorfer Messe. He thereafter put the parts of the work together on a YouTube video.

This year, he performed during the Holy Week the Messe für den Gründonnerstag. The Kyrie and the Gloria are own compositions in Bruckner's style by Michael Stenov. The fragment of the Credo (41 bars) is completed in Bruckner's style by Stenov: As he did last year, he has put the parts of the work together on a YouTube video.
 * Bruckner's own setting (bars 1-32),
 * completion of the missing verses Deum de Deo … till … facta sunt,
 * Bruckner's own setting (bar 33 till the end of the score),
 * completion of the remaining of the Credo, from Et incarnatus est till the end.

Enjoy! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Interesting! Thanks for sharing. - Did you see "our" Easterly music? Look for "listen" on top, follow link, look for 1 April, and listen three times. The composer approved No. 3 ;) - I wonder what Mozart would have said to 1 and 2 (also: Kyrie + Gloria, Credo) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice! In the Knabenchor of our school we sang also some parts of the Krönungsmesse (with organ accompaniment)... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:47, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Music is my best defense ;) - We just learned Alleluia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Quality Article Improvement
Greetings Gerda. I am inclined to sign up for the Quality Article Improvement project, except I suspect that I am too inexperienced to be of much use. And I am unsure as to the responsibilities and obligations inherent in signing up. I wonder if you could briefly enlighten me? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:03, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your interest! There is zero responsibility and obligations, all voluntary. You are already a member by what you do, - if you sign up, you can get monthly thanks with flowers. Think twice though, we have a bad reputation as the cabal of the outcasts, were founded in defiance, then (2012) against a one-person-show running today's featured article, - an area that improved greatly. All you need is patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kusumamala
I am being presumptuous, but could I ask you to check something. I have just reviewed my first DYK nomination. By a new editor I have worked with a few times before. I have ruled it ineligible as it was not nominated in a timely fashion. Would it be possible for you to look at my review and check if there is either anything I have done wrong or any way of getting round this. Many thanks.

It was moved from draft on 9 March - the day before nomination. Would that make it eligible? Gog the Mild (talk) 11:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, it does. You can work on an article in a sandbox as long as you like, - what count counts for DYK is when it is new to main space. (+ even if late, I tend to apply grace when a nom is fine otherwise.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Good. Thank you. The "rules" talk about the date an article comes out of sandbox, not when it comes out of draft. It was promptly nominated against the latter, but not the former. I shall take your advice and use some discretion. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that the rules are confusing, + there is more detail in Supplementary rules but who ever looks there ;) - (I had to, yesterday.) - It's often (but not always) better to follow their spirit rather than their letter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I am usually inclined towards flexibility, but this didn't seem the situation for it. I have reviewed. Assuming that the editor is happy with my rephrasing I shall flag up that QPQ does not apply and approve it. Thanks again for your help. (The supplementary rules are as dry as I expected!) Gog the Mild (talk) 13:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

German translation
Gerda, any chance you could provide a quick translation for me? The dissertation of Hans-Jürgen Häßler is entitled "Zur inneren Gliederung und Verbreitung der vorrömischen Eisenzeit im Niederelbegebiet". Google Translate suggests "On the internal structure and distribution of the pre-Roman Iron Age in the Lower Elbe region"; is this correct, or would you suggest any emendations? Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 22:36, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That looks fine to me. Problem is that with these scientific titles, I don't even understand it in German. How can a time/period be structured (inner structure/internal structure)? distributed? - If it's only a ref title, you don't have to translate it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Psalm 84
The article Psalm 84 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Psalm 84 for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farang Rak Tham -- Farang Rak Tham (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for David Frühwirth
— Maile (talk) 00:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Ford Piquette Avenue Plant FAC
I created an FAC page for the Ford Piquette Avenue Plant article here: Featured article candidates/Ford Piquette Avenue Plant/archive1. This is my attempt at expanding the scope of the subjects of the articles I improve, so that I'm not just associated with Disney rail transport. The building is a very old car factory that's remarkably preserved, and it's where the Ford Model T was created. It's a pretty significant historical site, and the fact that it has survived for over a century in its original state in the middle of Detroit (a city notorious for arson) is nothing short of a miracle. If you have a moment, consider doing a review of this one, please. Jackdude 101 talk cont 15:11, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I hope to get to it eventually, but have several I want to review, + need to improve an article for GA standard, see above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

FA schedule
I see that FAs are moved to "scheduled", but where is that? Perhaps a link on the requests page to that page would be useful? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Go to the Main page, look up Archive below the TFA, - it has not only the ones that appeared, but also the future for the month, - and for the next month: click on that month on top. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Mine's next year though, where does that end up? Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You mean it's not yet scheduled? Sorry, I misunderstood. Pending (one year in advance): WP:TFARP, requests (one month in advance, beginning the last day already scheduled): WP:TFAR, or tell me, and WP:QAI will do it for you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Well it was on WP:TFARP, then I see a note it was moved to ... scheduled. But I can't find that schedule. Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Getting closer: "scheduled and past", it wasn't scheduled but past the date for which it was requested. Should it go to 2019 now? It looked more like a 2018 anniversary to me. I doubt that the delegates scheduling look at the pending list much, - it's more for us nominators to see date conflicts in advance, and avoid repetition of similar themes in too close succession. If you want the delegates' attention you better go to the requests as soon as possible. - Again, I could do both for your, re-add to pending now and take care of a request later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was on the list for next year. The list shows only future nominations. I was told specifically to put it there for "long requests". You may wish to check some of your other recent deletions as well, they may fall into the same category. Maury Markowitz (talk) 01:10, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I restored it. Sorry, the list goes by month, January follows December. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!
Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Konstantin Sellheim
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Did_you_know/Statistics/Archive_2018
Hi Gerda. I think The Emperor of Ocean Park should be on the Feb 2018 list - it got 5378 pageviews on the day it was featured, am I able to add it? Best, <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em"><u style="text-decoration:none;color:#38a">Fish +<u style="text-decoration:none;color:#B44">Karate 12:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Go put it there ;) - I am busy, and the sun is shining. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * So added. Thanks, just wanted to check I wouldn't be breaking anything automated ... enjoy the sunshine! :) <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em"><u style="text-decoration:none;color:#38a">Fish +<u style="text-decoration:none;color:#B44">Karate  12:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Große Kirche Aplerbeck
Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Thought you'd enjoy this
I'm at an editathon currently, and they were going through the 5 pillars, and there was a screenshot of you talking with someone as an example of civility. I thought you would appreciate this :) TonyBallioni (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I do ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you think you could incorporate some of your sources for Psalm 84 in the article? Take a look at the review and more sources offered, - wonder what you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look and see if there is anything I have access to that would make it better, though you've done a great job expanding it :) TonyBallioni (talk) 15:57, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig
Ritchie333 (talk) 00:01, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Walter Fink
Martinevans123 (talk) 17:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, also for your help with it. - Back from a long spring hike which gave me the idea to expand The Lord is my Shepherd today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Double Concerto (Henze)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Psalm 84
The article Psalm 84 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Psalm 84 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farang Rak Tham -- Farang Rak Tham (talk) 22:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that is generous, - I know that it could still be better, and will try to improve - all help welcome - but it's great not to do it with a clock ticking. With the sources you supplied, it could be a FA some day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 84
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Portals
The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,   &mdash; The Transhumanist   10:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Antonello Manacorda
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Does this merit a stand alone article?
As you seem to be experienced in the topic: Concerto for two harpsichords in C minor, BWV 1060 standalone or redirect? Eddie891  Talk Work 12:47, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the start. Please find a link to the keyboard concertos. Traveling, limited help, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response (It's OK that you're traveling). Just was curious. I saw some controversy. Just to be clear, I did not write the article. Eddie891  Talk Work 22:59, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - was too tired to find out after a long festive day ;) - I try to stay away from controversy, - they are not good for my health. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Margarete Luise Schick
Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Prep 2
Hi, I saw you took something out of the Milana Chernyavska hook. Could I tighten up the language here? I would like to write:
 * ... that a review of Ukrainian pianist Milana Chernyavska recordings of sonatas for violin and piano by Nikolai Rakov called her playing "delicate and brutal as required"? Yoninah (talk) 23:05, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * A change by an IP said the conservatory in Kiev has that same name, which is more likely but less sensational. How is this, to avoid run-om?
 * ... that when Ukrainian pianist Milana Chernyavska recorded Nikolai Rakov's violins sonatas, a reviewer called her playing "delicate and brutal as required"? - To be more precise, he called her that:
 * ... that when Ukrainian pianist Milana Chernyavska recorded Nikolai Rakov's violins sonatas, she was described as "a full partner in the proceedings, delicate and brutal as required"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 11:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * For the second hook, we would have to define "partner":
 * ... that when Ukrainian pianist Milana Chernyavska recorded Nikolai Rakov's sonatas with David Frühwirth, a review called her "a full partner in the proceedings, delicate and brutal as required"? Yoninah (talk) 11:28, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with another link to the violinist, but we need to say violin (or violin sonatas), or nobody would understand that normally the violin is the prima donna, with the piano (only) accompanying, not equal.
 * ... that when Ukrainian pianist Milana Chernyavska recorded Nikolai Rakov's violin sonatas with David Frühwirth, a review called her "a full partner in the proceedings, delicate and brutal as required"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes! Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Elisabeth Speiser
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Rachel Brown (flautist)
Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Tobias Kratzer
The Telemaco link in the German article was also wrong, until I turned it into a redlink - dewiki has no article about Gluck's Telemaco (and dewiki seems to have no equivalent of ill, or I would have used it). That opera isn't exactly well-known (I don't know it), but the link in German Wiki was to an opera I would call seriously obscure, namely Telemaco (Scarlatti).

For proof that Kratzer indeed produced the Gluck opera, see e.g. 1 and 2. Deiner, Narky Blert (talk) 22:14, 25 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I was short on time, translated but had no time time for checking. I saw the dab page for the title, and later that it was Gluck's in 2011. (They did Scarlatti in 2004.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Milana Chernyavska
Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Anna Bochkoltz
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, feels good! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cathinka Buchwieser
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

QPQ for Aartswoud
That's about all I'm good for Gerda, hosting funny threads on my talk page. But don't worry, you won't drive me away by saying so. :-) Eric   Corbett  12:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for coming over! Did you see my DYK of the day, the lady who was painted naked with Schubert? (painting - in a theatre - in the article) - I should probably have asked you wordsmith for a hook mentioning that, - I gave up. Last good one was Zofia Posmysz, related to your remark about how I feel writing about German atrocities. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: Eric, did you see another language question, about "perhaps best remembered"? Harmless or to be avoided? (I never thought about it, nor did I use the phrase, - I try to avoid even "best known".) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with "perhaps best remembered". Naked ladies eh? I need to take a look at that article. Eric   Corbett  13:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The lady in question is armed and ready to shoot: Die zürnende Diana. There's another naked lady, whose only weapon are her arms, related to a Goethe song (see also de:Der Fischer (Goethe), with this depiction). Schubert (dressed) is painted (by his friend) as the victim of both. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Another, Eric: I just reverted something on Gwyneth Jones (soprano), and saw that poor lead. You are the first one I could imagine to bring life to it, remembering Andreas Scholl ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi
Are you really eight? because your userpage saids that. Risaysky (talk) 18:28, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No. The User is eight years old, not the person behind it. Its a joke. <b style="color:#060">L293D</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b> • <b style="color:#000">✎</b>) 18:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The user is eight, - how is that a joke? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nom invalid because of current events portal listing?
Not sure if we are still on speaking terms after that fuzzy GA review of mine, but here goes: I have got a DYK nomination that has been featured before at a current events portal. It is the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Japan article. Two questions:
 * 1) Was it the main link that was featured on the front page?
 * 2) Does this make the DYK nomination invalid?

Let me know what you think. Thanks, -- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 23:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't know an answer to the first numbered question, but assume yes. The answer to the second is probably yes (check the rulez), but my medicine is: find some red link in your article (or make one), write a short DYK article, and mention the other in the hook. Almost the same attention guaranteed ;) - We just tried that for a trestle (look for Goat Canyon), - problem: they then found problems with the source for the original statement. I went to bed, no idea what happened next. Good luck with yours. - If you have a spare moment, look at Glauben können wie du, a pictured DYK article. - I don't know what to think of the very first question. I am on speaking terms with everybody who wants to speak to me. I found that GA review helpful, towards a later FA hopefully (but I don't get the daily things done these days). Sorry that therefore I missed your FAC (and all others in April). 1 May resolution: work there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip, but it is not my own article. I am nominating reviewing someone else's. With regard to the article Glauben können wie du, I am afraid I would have to agree what the person on the talk page says--you should add more scholarly or news sources. These days Wikipedia is all about independent coverage. I found one local news source that talks about the poem though: it is linked here. If secondary sources are insufficient, perhaps you could try to move the article to a Christian website.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 12:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The article is here, because it's linked to three others (writer, composer and piece in which it's included), because in every one of them, it would be of undue weight. It's published in THE Catholic hymnal, with a commission of people who selected to have it there, - you can't get more notable than that. Klangfarben is a song book in which it's also included. OR: It's a hymn that actually gets sung, while there are many which are printed but not sung. It's lovely ;) - Back to the other article: you could still do the same, even if it's not "yours". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I said the article lacks secondary sources, didn't say it wasn't notable. And I mistyped the part up there, it is someone else's article, he nominated, I am just reviewing. Anyway, I am still looking for that answer, so I'll continue to do that. See you around, auf wiedersehen.-- Farang Rak Tham   (Talk) 19:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Farang Rak Tham, I got the question wrong, sorry. Perhaps it's no problem after all, because all I know is that a repetition on the Main page is not wanted. In the portal, it's only a header for a given event. - In the hymn article, I don't understand "self-published" as a problem, - do you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Uncited content
Gerda, there's a partly uncited paragraph in your DYK nomination Das Grab ist leer, der Held erwacht. If you can fix it now, please do so, otherwise I will have to pull the hook. Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 13:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * thanks, added 2 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Das Grab ist leer, der Held erwacht
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for St. Catherine's Church, Frankfurt
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for St. Georg, Aplerbeck
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for appreciating my work that I've done here. I am honored to have a Precious.

1989 (talk) 18:29, 5 May 2018 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * What a lovely creature! Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * You are welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK
Hi. Are you the one who reviewed my DYK about the lynching please?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. So I expanded the Lynching of Samuel Smith, which I nominated for DYK as well, and I am expanding the Lynching of David Jones. I wonder if you think we should mention them in the original DYK?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I never do multiple hooks, because I believe each article gets more attention when alone, but it's your choice. I watch noms even after approval. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Template:Did you know nominations/Lynching of Samuel Smith. I guess they are wikilinked. But not Jones.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Bold the subject and drop the unused ALT, - may look later today. Thanks for the Kohlbrenner review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think I will nominate the Lynching of David Jones because I haven't been able to retrieve enough info about it yet. Can you believe they tried to blame blacks for the lynching? Incredible.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:59, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. Do we know anything about Mr. Murray? No plaque here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Henriette Feuerbach
Vanamonde (talk) 00:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Melinda Paulsen
Vanamonde (talk) 00:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Luisenkirche, Charlottenburg
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Tobias Kratzer
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK infobox
Hi. In the lynching articles, do you think the "civilian attack" infobox (like this one) would be better than the biography infobox please? Maybe someone could add a map for example.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You could have both even, but I am not familiar with map making. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:55, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have changed the infoboxes. I wonder who could help us with the maps. It would be good to have two spots for Nashville and Goodlettsville, and Nashville and Nolensville especially.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:14, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You could ask at a related project, or see in the history of a map you like who created it. - Actually, would a map help understanding what happened, and why? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, Wikipedia is always a work in progress. I will see if I can find someone. By the way, is there a way to remove the personal attack ("You are a terrible writer") from this edit summary please? I am not, by the way; the RS are vague. I have added more but obviously the weight should remain on the lynching, not the shooting.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin (and don't want to be one), but perhaps someone is watching? Also bedtime. Rather peaceful day in the sun for that article, good for you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. Could you please check if Lynching of Amos Miller is too short for DYK?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It's long enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I created another DYK...Zigzig20s (talk) 17:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Margarita Höhenrieder
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Isabelle Druet picture
So, I put this picture of Isabelle Druet on your new article, but I'd like to consult whether it's the best picture. In general, I try to find people in classic photo poses, namely reasonably calm and smiling without their mouths open. But, she's an opera singer, singing emotionally is what she does. I can: As the expert, what would you prefer? --GRuban (talk) 21:24, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * keep this;
 * try to find a shot where she is relatively calm; or
 * try to look for one where she is displaying even more emotion, at the expense of composure.


 * Thank you! I like it, for a singer. It's not at all "my" new article though, let's see what LouisAlain thinks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I just looked at the edit history, and the sheer number of edits were all Gerda; but I do see now the first few edits with the majority of the text are yours. Anyway, image opinions? --GRuban (talk) 22:23, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * No offense. I just translated the original French article and probably added 2 or 3 refs. But Gerda who's much more committed than me and has a distinct flair for finding refs and other information made the page grow from 7,660 bytes to 12,820! I usually post in one shot, or two if necessary. As for the pic, I once uploaded 1 of mine on the en Wiki but have lost the know how. Those of Isabelle Druet available on Google pictures are all copywrighted I suppose. LouisAlain (talk) 08:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a screenshot of a https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 video on Vimeo, https://vimeo.com/53103878. There are a couple of others. (The licensing is a bit tricky to find on Vimeo, so I wrote up a guide, this one is good, but we can't just grab videos blindly, we do need to check the license, and that it comes from a reasonable source.) Anyway, as you look through the video, you'll see frames where she is singing; not singing; and ... really, really singing, all the way down to closed eyes and grimace. I can probably grab a picture of each of those options. (Or you can, I'm not unique, I've just done it a few times before.) That was my question, do we want to portray her as mostly calm, very emotional, or, like this, in between? --GRuban (talk) 14:47, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This is fine with me. Very emotional is for a moment, not to look again and again, and open mouth shows singing ;) - thanks for the offer! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Märchenerzählungen (Schumann)
--kewlgrapes (talk/contribs) 02:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

More unprofessional and irrelevant chat (so sue me)
Hi Gerda ... I just wondered, (1) in your 2013 Bm Mass, were the trumpets as splendid as they look in your photo? and (2) do you by any chance know this place? I have pals there! DBaK (talk) 22:05, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * (1) The trumpets were great, actually the whole orchestra, L'arpa festante. The keyboard player played from Bach's manuscript in the performance (not in the pictured rehearsal). We were quite proud that people like that liked our singing. (2) I know it, but only drove through. Deserves a better article in English ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * (1) How fabulous! As usually happens when I've been talking to you, I am now listening to new recordings ... (2) It's a gorgeous place - it was the destination for a school choir trip in 1971. I am still friends with my host family! :) DBaK (talk) 23:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

"J. S."
I agree Gerda. I wondered if there wasn't a MoS style rule about the space somewhere. Lately, I have been assuming there are more style rules than there actually are, so I'm never sure when to look. Thanks for the DYK review. Outriggr (talk) 23:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Outriggr, I never know about teh rulez, only copy ;) - see, Francis knows, and the link is in the edit summary, Naming conventions (people). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Schlafes Bruder
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Darkness Shines 2
Hi Gerda, under the cicumstances (WP:SBAN), I do  not  consider this edit (and its response) was appropriate. As a result I'm protecting the page and withdrawing the user's  TPA. Thank you  for  your  comprehension. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:03, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Banned users are also human beings. See archive. Don't thank me for me for my comprehension, I don't deserve it, because I don't comprehend. Look for Darkness Shines on this page. His contributions over the years were, including the last ones on his talk: pointing out vandalism, thanking for help and appreciation. I will never understand how Wikipedia can try to do without such people, and would support not to ban content editors, any time. At a time, I considered to leave when such a thing happened (2012, look for may name). I made a deliberate decision to stay then, but hate every instance reminding me. Like this. Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * ps (from that article, bolding by me): "The Holy Spirit is addressed, which makes the song suitable for Pentecost. General themes of faith, love and hope make it appropriate for general occasions and funerals as well." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Verstehen oder nicht verstehen, bitte sei weltlich, sachlich, und beim Thema bleiben. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:14, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * (ec) Sorry, no, it's highly emotional for me. Every Precious remembers a banned user. Will expand the hymn article, promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't  quite  understand the link  you provided. It  wasted some of my  precious time following it  all, and no, I'm  not  in the slightest  bit  interested in anything concerning  Corbett. My emotions or my faith have nothing to do with my work here and I  don't  let  them influence it and I do not even talk about it. I  won't  be influenced by  any editors'  beliefs either.  In  my opinion they  don't  belong  in  a secular discussion. I  have fired people  from  my  company  for less than the behaviour of that  banned user, and if it  puts them on the street without  an income, it's  tough  but  it's realistic. I  can't  have them talking  to   customers or colleagues like that. If you  are interested in  helping  people like that, email them, but IMO Wikipedia is not  the place to  push  it.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:22, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Any way, we have five kittens in  the house, so  here's one for  you. Same colour.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:25, 16 May 2018 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>

Thank you, I love kittens. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Precious six years
Belatedly going through my messages due to real life eating me, so this is a reply from February, but, thank you! :) - The Bushranger One ping only 03:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!
Thank you for the kudos on my talk page. Cheers! :') sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  16:01, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, welcome! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Women in the Bible
Thank you for the thank you! :-) I would be grateful for any comments you have on this article.  I have basically rewritten the entire article except for, perhaps, half a dozen sentences, so I really need other input for proper collaboration.  I am still new enough here I make what seem to me like stupid mistakes--after someone else catches them!  :-) Add in, delete, comment, suggest--whatever you feel like, I will be grateful. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:17, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Not until next week, - Pentecost coming up, Bach's cantatas to be updated, music we'll sing improved ... - more than I have time for. But I provided the link for gentle page watchers to chime in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Franz Stillfried
Hello. In Titled Americans, 1890: The Real Heiresses' Guide to Marrying An Aristocrat, Chauncey Depew writes about Elizabeth Chizelle of Philadelphia, who married a certain Baron Franz de Paulo Stillfried, and they resided in Rattonitz, Germany. There isn't much about the name Stillfried on Wikipedia, only three matches: Stillfried Castle, Baron Raimund von Stillfried, and Stillfried & Andersen. Would you be interested in and/or able to find out more please?Zigzig20s (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Interested yes, but little time, see just above. This one: ? - Off to rehearsal of the Messe solennelle. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Getting closer: - look for that name, perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I've viewed too many Google Books--it's restricted.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:47, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It has Franz-Leopold Graf von Stillfried. Search also for Franz-Leopold von Stillfried and Franz-Leopold Stillfried. "de Paulo" looks pretty much like fantasy/fancy, and mentioned only that one instance. Franz-Leopold could be the same, - or not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I asked you to help with this because most sources must be in German.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * First please find if Leopold can be Paulo, by dates, places, whatever, - and I can only look from next week (already neglecting a FAC). You could ask at project Germany. We got results yesterday for a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The information I have: she married him in 1875. He was born in 1837. Does this help please?Zigzig20s (talk) 08:35, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I will not have time to look until during the week. We celebrate Pentecost for two days, singing both days, being with people two days. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. WP:NODEADLINE.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:53, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Busy right now to make the article of a great man who died on Sunday readable, and referenced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Christ fuhr gen Himmel
Gatoclass (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Song
Hope this is not a repeat. I do love my Liturgie Slavonne (and tend to share it). Kafka Liz (talk) 08:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, lovely, would even be good as a repeat. Have a DYK about something medieval, but then they changed the hook enough to make it just something common ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Messe solennelle (Vierne)
— Maile (talk) 01:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Katharina Magiera
— Maile (talk) 01:06, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Christophe Larrieu
Frauen sind besonders begabt, die Wutausbrüche der Männer zu lindern.

LouisAlain (talk) 12:25, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, how did you know. - Happily swapping the images on top, May up, despised and rejected down. (You and I, we belong in the group, but it's no reason to leave, which leaves the game to the others.) The mezzo's article has now 4 sources ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Theater Kiel
Theater Kiel has had several paid socks on it. I just rolled back the most recent one's edits, but noticed your name there. You may find the edits actually helpful, so thought I'd let you know so you could review them. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Theater Kiel is a public opera house, run by town and state. I don't see anything promotional there. It's on my watchlist, and I even welcomed a user who made a useful edit, - I welcome without looking at a broader picture when I see a good edit by someone with a red talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Feel free to restore then (it's why I let you know.) I'm confident they're part of the same family of socks based on a few other things, but if the content to that article was helpful, I don't have any objections to keeping it. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:31, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Kreuzkirche, Zittau
Grüß dich, Gerda. I ran across this article on German Wiki and thought it might be one that you with your topical expertise would like to translate. Sca (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As usual, the challenge is documentation. Sca (talk) 00:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks interesting, thank you. "Schulterbogenartig" - it's words like that which make me hesitate ;) - Any watcher: tell me "frohgemut" in English, and please with courage in it, not simply cheerful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Just a stab in the dark: Confident?
 * Now tell us, what does Schulterbogenartig mean? Something about drooping shoulders? Sca (talk) 15:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I like confident, but it misses the joy-part. If only I'd know the shoulder word. It's from the church article. Furius is good in such things. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it might be a jack arch? Furius (talk) 21:46, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, there's always courageous. Triumphant would be too strong.
 * But what about Schulterbogenartig? Round-shouldered? Sca (talk) 00:27, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Services in B-flat major (Stanford)
— Maile (talk) 00:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Birgit Remmert
Alex Shih (talk) 01:26, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Schneider (writer)
Vanamonde (talk) 01:11, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Julius Berger (cellist)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:57, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Women in Red June Editathons
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:15, 29 May 2018 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Appropriate category
Thanks for sending thanks on The Lord bless you and keep you just now. I'm not sure whether to apply the same cat to Vulcan salute -- not wanting to trivialize or appear to be mocking. What do you think? ☆ Bri (talk) 06:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't, because it could be any blessing to the gesture. I find it interesting that I meet Nimoy again, whom I just read about in Remembering Leonard Nimoy, minutes ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure you are aware of this, but our article Vulcan salute explicitly states that Nimoy based the gresture on the Jewish blessing (Nimoy was Jewish). There is also a mosaic from the 1920s era Synagoge (Enschede) illustrating Vulcan salute. Does that change anything? ☆ Bri (talk) 06:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Only if appearing in the lead, - I missed it, not reading every word. Then yes. - The article on Priestly blessing might profit from the beginning of the words in English at the top. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

YouTube links
Hi Gerda, just to let you know, sometimes I set YouTube links to opera singers so that they start some time into the clip, not at the beginning, usually in order to cut directly to a close-up of the singer or to a dramatic part of the clip, skipping less-interesting part leading up to it. This is done by adding to the end of the web-address an and-sign, a lower-case t, an equals sign, a number of seconds, and a lower-case s ("&t=1117s"). I saw that you changed the format of my link to Gabriele Schnaut to a format using Hitchcock-face braces rather than square brackets, and the starting-point I put in is no longer there. It doesn't really matter for the particular LOHENGRIN clip you corrected, but for some of the clips it does matter, when the clip is from a full-length act or something like that.

Is there a way to include a starting point in the format with the Hitchcock-face brackets?

Thank you, HandsomeMrToad (talk) 21:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Sorry, about the change and that I have no idea about the starting point. You can check out YouTube. For Lohengrin, I like the "regular" beginning more because the other is almost too close-up, and musically and dramatically not "a beginning". I also didn't like "intimidating Ch. St" ;) - Next time I'll know better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Deutsches Hochamt (Michael Haydn)
— Maile (talk) 00:26, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK
Hi. Could you please check for me if Elias Polk is long enough?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:47, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 2844, almost twice as required --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've nominated it.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:49, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jadwiga Szamotulska
Vanamonde (talk) 05:17, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Gerda, thank you for all the messages kind words (and prizes) posted on my discussion page! This is what I am up to now: --Nattes à chat (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming over! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Nun danket all und bringet Ehr
Gatoclass (talk) 04:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Isabelle Druet and Isabelle Guillaud
Sorry, but you seem to be using this source http://www.conservatoiredeparis.fr/disciplines/les-enseignants/les-enseignants-detail/enseignant/guillaud/ to back statements about Isabelle Druet, including that she "was appointe[d] professor at the Conservatoire de Paris in 1996". I know you don't speak French, and my French is only so-so, but the source doesn't seem to mention Druet. Guillaud was appointed professor, not Druet, right? I don't think they're the same person... --GRuban (talk) 15:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I looked superficially, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

La Monica
Dear colleague,

please consider writing an article dedicated to the song La Monica (alternative readings: La Monaca, Monacha). The melody (of Italian, or as to my mind, rather of French origin) has been used by famous composers, including several works of Johann Sebastian Bach. Weird but I could not find 'foreign' Wikipedia pages dedicated to this moving song and its professional implementations (Frescobaldi, Dowland, Buxtehude etc). Feel free to use my engravings (transcriptions of a melody) for the Russian 'La monaca" page. Olorulus (talk) 07:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Good idea, but not for soon. Mentioned here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Sarabandes
Hi Gerda! This article title is indeed an odd one. As far as I can see, Satie referred to it as "3 Sarabandes". Published versions use either "Sarabandes" or "Trois Sarabandes". Academic writers (e.g. Taruskin) tend to use "Trois Sarabandes". I agree the article title seems wrong, but I am not sure what the justification would be for changing it........--Smerus (talk) 09:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, David. I'd call it Sarabandes (Satie), but I and the MOS are two, and what I recently did with another rather generic name, Deutsches Hochamt (Michael Haydn), wasn't welcome. You probably saw the Waltz discussion, - same thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for the 4 yrs precious barnstar! Storye book (talk) 07:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Confused
Hi Gerda, why revert this edit? Thanks, <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em"><u style="text-decoration:none;color:#38a">Fish +<u style="text-decoration:none;color:#B44">Karate 13:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, never mind :) <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em"><u style="text-decoration:none;color:#38a">Fish +<u style="text-decoration:none;color:#B44">Karate 13:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * (ec) Misclick, which I noticed immediately, and then reverted immediately. (Sometimes I think that rollback shouldn't be on the watch list, only when you actually look at the edit.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Exchange DYK reviews?
Hi there. I hope you don't mind, but is it okay if you could please review Template:Did you know nominations/Haruka Tomatsu? The reasons are mentioned on the nomination page and at WT:DYK. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I will remember that when I need the next one, tomorrow, or is that too late? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ideally, I'd wish for an immediate review since I wanted it to go up on June 9 (as I mentioned over at WT:DYK). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, will drop RD person and do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. However, it seems that your review of Tomatsu's review is incomplete (lacks some parts of the DYK criteria review), and you also didn't review Koe Girl (which is also part of the nomination). As for her voice, if you're curious, here's one of her songs. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:39, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I reviewed both, my style, - guess you wrote this before I completed the second article. - What I mean about a review is that for an opera singer, I'd include at least one review of her performance, not only a list of tasks, - on GA level. But perhaps that's not usual in her scene. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)b

Personal request
Gerda I would like to make a personal request for you to take a look at Biblical criticism which I have done extensive work on recently. Your help was critical to the success of the Bible and humor, and I am hoping you will be willing to take the time to take a quick look and make comments on this one too. Of course--it's okay if your comment is well done! :-) But any comment would be a help, really, and since I have only been here a year, I need that help!  Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:52, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Will look but may take some time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You're very kind. If and when you can, I will be grateful.  Are you Deutsch Gerda?  I lived in Wiesbaden for three years as a wild and crazy teenager and I came to love Germany very much.  That experience has impacted my whole life.  I miss Rosen Montag! :-) Thank you for all the kindness and support that you extend to everyone here on Wikipedia. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you ;) - I have a rather talkative user page, including a cat saying so, and just had choir rehearsal in Wiesbaden, preparing Brahms Requiem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Brahms is a favorite of mine--along with cats. Two more things we have in common. If you prefer less 'chatting' I will honor that.  I am sometimes overly friendly I think--sort of the opposite of "all business"! Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I wrote Vier ernste Gesänge here, among others. I like chatting, but it's bedtime now. Tomorrow, on top of real life, I want to write a new article on a singer, expand a pianist for DYK, update the Bach cantatas for Sunday, add more awards to Hilmar Hoffmann, and if then the day is not over will look at the above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Uhmmm... maybe I should withdraw that request... :-) You sound way busy. Who is Hilmar Hoffman? Oh and Güte nacht. Sleep well. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:54, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I managed to do three of the four tasks (not the awards), and started to look at your article: impressive! Will continue, but need sleep again ;) - For Hoffmann, there's a link, but tomorrow is the other's day, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Three is good --and Wow! Those are impressive gentlemen. Sleep well--it's almost dinnertime here. I teach in the morning then go to a birthday party in the afternoon! Take care. Have a day off. :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:48, 9 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! We'll sing in the morning, Messe in G and Ein Haus voll Glorie, with three choirs, trumpets and all (more people than [[:File:St. Martin Idstein, Kirchweih 2014.JPGin 2014), and listen with friends to music open air, the annual event. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] (talk) 05:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of City of New York (1885 ship)
Hello! Your submission of City of New York (1885 ship) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:10, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hanns-Martin Schneidt
— Maile (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Apologies - small absence
Hi Gerda, just to let you know that I have to be away until tomorrow at the earliest. I wouldn't want you think I've walked away or anything like that. If things don't go well, will let you know in the next few days. Victoriaearle (tk) 23:25, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but I'd just think that you have other things in life, - so do I, rather busy today and tomorrow. All we do is voluntary, and you do a lot, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:38, 11 June 2018 (UTC)


 * It's nice to take part in the world, but not always possible. As it happens, the cantata speaks to me and I'm interested in it. If I'm not feeling better by Wednesday, I'll strike everything, if you don't mind waiting. Victoriaearle (tk) 14:09, 11 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I am rather a patient person ;) - Please don't strike anything, I profit from your interest in the topic, experience in FA matters, especially sourcing, and excellent English. I had my quarterly medical check today, and it was fine, but we never know how much time we'll be given. - The organ which helped us to really gorgeous sounds yesterday is pictured on the Main page today, and "If Ye Love Me" (which was sung for one of my birthdays and the recent Royal wedding) will come tomorrow. I think you'll like it, - should be good for health, very generally so (just the harmonies, without paying attention to the words) - best wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Encouragements
Vielen Dank für Ihre regelmäßige Unterstützung.

LouisAlain (talk) 04:44, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Orgelbau Mebold
Vanamonde (talk) 06:01, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious
Thank you for the lovely recognition! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! (Carmen y Laura)
Thank you for the review. I'm leaving the words "female duet" in there, because that terminology is used by several sources. However, I believe I've incorporated all of your other suggestions. Always open for more! All the best,  78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 17:16, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for thanking and teaching ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:19, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for If Ye Love Me
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
For all the amazing work you do, and for all the time you're spending on improving this encyclopedia.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:40, 12 June 2018 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>
 * Cute, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Writing "St" without full stop in Germany-related articles
Dear Gerda Arendt, I noticed that you undid the move of the article St. Mary's Church, Mühlhausen to St Mary's Church, Mühlhausen yesterday night. Firstly, I thank you for caring about this page; however, I disagree with you in the question concerning this article title. You wrote "St without full stop is correct for churches in England, but not where official names have the full stop". Applying this the other way around means that we would have to write St Marienkirche (Nottingham) (without a full point) in German, e.g., as the translation of the British name "St Mary's Church, Nottingham" – if we retained the punctuation style of the native term, as you demanded; i.e., whether inserting or omitting the period after contractions like "St" in the translated phrase depended on the habits in the name's country of origin.

Obviously this is not the case: translation involves adapting rules of punctuation, hyphenation and capitalization etc according to the target language's requirements – as well as we substitute "Mary" by "Marie" in this example. So I can't see how the fact that we do use full points after contractions in Germany could touch the predominant British practice of omitting them.

I am aware that this issue is of minor importance to articles' quality, but the mixing of "St" and "St." among Germany-related articles' titles is annoying me and I'd rather see a consistent usage of "St" (since we should use British English here, according to WP:GERCON). Please see the list of 30 Germany-related articles using "St" without full stop I put together on my own talk page (for I didn't dare spamming your page with such a collection of wikilinks) – there is evidence that this practice is followed by other editors too. May I ask you to consider changing your opinion towards "St"?

Kind regards —Anton Maienfeldt (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for thinking about it, and coming here. I am not sure that I can follow your logic, sorry. Translate? I believe that a name is name which shouldn't be translated. For example yours looks German, and shouldn't be translated to Anthony Mayenfield, even if this is the English Wikipedia. For churches with German names, there are mainly three cases:


 * 1) It's known in English by an English name, then use that, even if it's wrong and misleading, such as Frankfurt Cathedral (which is no cathedral).
 * 2) It's not known in English and has a short and specific name, then use the German name, such as Altenberger Dom (which is also no cathedral, but you would have no other way to translate Dom than Cathedral, misleading readers from the start.
 * 3) It's not known in English but has a generic name such as de:Evangelische Kirche Wilnsdorf, then translate that to Protestant Church Wilnsdorf (but please not "Evangelical" which might suggest Evangelicalism.

We don't need consistency between English "St" and German "St.", rather the opposite: if you see "St" you know immediately that is English, so you know more than before. In the US, "St" is short for "Street", and "St." for "Saint". Generally: I try to change names as little as possible (example Luisenkirche, which would get awkward when translated, and she was no saint), and leave the English their peculiarity ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. That's all perfectly correct; you are right in stating that proper names generally shouldn't be translated. However, in this particular example St. Mary's Church, part of the full native name – "St. Marienkirche" or "St.-Marien-Kirche" – had already been translated by the English article's creator to "Mary's Church", whereas "St." had not, retaining it that way instead of making it "St Mary's", which is the correct British equivalent.


 * What I'm aiming at is: the name should either be translated completely, according to WP:GERCON (→St Mary's Church), or not at all (→"St. Marien" or "Marienkirche"). The latter would be your 2nd case, whereas the former corresponds to the 3rd one, which should IMHO apply here, because it is generally done this way with churches that are named after a Saint. Hopefully I managed to make clear what I mean at last. :) —Anton Maienfeldt (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I think you made it clear, but see above, why translate it to English English (St) and not to American English (St.)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The WP Germany conventions say so: "In general, for reasons of stylistic and regional consistency, the variety of English used in Germany articles is that which is recommended by the European Commission in its English Style Guide […] i.e. the standard usage of Britain and Ireland, usually referred to as British English" (second half of the lead section). Also in my opinion, British style is to be preferred because the UK's geographic, cultural and historical connection to Germany is stronger than America's (the latter existing not before the 16th century at all). And German schools teach British English, too. —Anton Maienfeldt (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I take that for almost everything, but really don't see the need to change a name from the little German full stop to something different, for a rule's sake. No way "St" would be used in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Where did I claim that "St" would be used in German? Without a period, it is as much used as "Mary" or "Church" in German, of course, and I did use the full stop in the German example above (made it even bold). – OK, I agree that it seems a bit overly meticulous to rename an article only to remove this full point, so let's drop it for the time being. But I still would use "St" when creating a new article. —Anton Maienfeldt (talk) 22:50, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Anton, perhaps we should have talked in German (where did I say that you said ...) ;) - Do so for your new articles, and I will try not to translate St. Marien in my new articles, and I hope and even trust that our readers will understand both, and I know that there's plenty of work where we really confuse them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Your last sentence "No way 'St' would be used in German" implied that somehow. – Oh, I enjoy writing in English, that's one of the reasons I started editing the English wiki recently – along with feeling the need to improve some poor articles representing my home town, which is even carefully referred to as a "city" here (unless where I already changed it), having a population of 33,000 :D. It used to be one in the Middle Ages, but in context of modern times …


 * I'm not aiming to deprecate translating "St. Marien" to "St[.] Mary's" (since it's done everywhere to give clear and unambiguous information about the patronage, especially important in cases where the English equivalent differs more significantly from the German name) – it only should be done consistently, in a non-alternating way. But I think I've written enough about that, so I will give it a rest and concentrate on more serious problems. ;)


 * Yes, there's plenty of work indeed. One of the worst articles I came across, e.g., is Erfurter Dom, whose lead section claimed the Gothic cathedral to be 1200 years old, which is completely rubbish. Apart from that, given its poor (D-)English, it could have been written by a (German) 5th-grade student; some of the worst mistakes have been corrected already … —Anton Maienfeldt (talk) 16:50, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for more background, and yes, the Dom deserves better, and some mentioning of German alternative names, Marienkirche and Propsteikirche Beatae Mariae Virginis, with translation ;) - For city vs. town, we had an interesting discussion on Schloss Weimar years ago, and yes, about the sense or not of translating such a term to English. (I took one of the images, DYK?) Another field where striving for consistency will make you unhappy. I go for town, it's town privileges, but someone wanted to make Weimar a city. - My hometown - see infobox on my user page - is about the same size. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:15, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Christina Gerstberger
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hedwig Fassbender
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Nun, Brüder, sind wir frohgemut
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Mary who?
Hello, Gerda.

Thank you for all the good work you are doing on the English Wikipedia.

If I were a Hindu or atheist and I read today's DYK about "Nun, Brueder ...", I think I would ask "Mary who?".

Do you have the power to link "Mary" to the Blessed Virgin Mary or Mary, the mother of Jesus, or whatever en.wikipedia calls her?

Thank you! I know you will understand. 71.114.101.176 (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your interest and the question which generates a few others:
 * When I proposed the sentence, it was followed by (pictured) and showed a pic that I took (which is in the article and now also on top of this page), - I thought that would explain enough. I didn't think of it when it was not taken.
 * The purpose of DYK is to lure your readers into reading one certain article, here about a song. The German Wikipedia has the strict rue that no other part of the sentence is linked, in order to focus.
 * Once you are in the article you will find not only the image but a link to Mary, mother of Jesus. Would you ask for a link to Buddha, or expect that not only Buddhists are familiar with the word?
 * Finally, I don't have the power, only administrators can change the Main page. If you feel strongly that it should be linked, you may have the power: visit Main Page/Errors and post under current DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

RM
You might be interested in this RM. <b style="color:#060">L293D</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b> • <b style="color:#000">✎</b>) 20:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Look for my name there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Enoch zu Guttenberg
Hi Gerda, what I mean is to nominate the article for RD in addition to DYK, as it qualifies for both. And DYK rules explicitly say appearance in RD does not disqualify an article for DYK. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 06:05, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Always learning. So far I saw that DYK was rejected if it had appeared in ITN or OTD, which I found disappointing after having written a long review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The ITN rule only applies to blurbs, not RDs, see WP:DYK: "Articles linked at ITN or OTD not in bold, including the recent deaths section, are still eligible." -Zanhe (talk) 06:11, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - I am no rulez person ;) - This is the fourth RD in a few weeks, - sad. I almost bought tickets for his concert, but didn't - waiting for a piece I love more, - too late. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that. Hopefully having the article featured twice on the main page will be a small consolation. -Zanhe (talk) 06:36, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Seraph von Kohlbrenner
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikisource
I was wondering if given you knowledge of musical matters you could take a look at a hymnal on Wikisource?

s:Index:The_Army_and_Navy_Hymnal.djvu

There's been some updates recently concerning tempos/instrumentation you might be able to comment on. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:42, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I looked, and the latest changes to the hymnal date from 2015. Probably it's individual pages, - can you give me more details. American hymnals are nothing I know much about, though, but perhaps someone who watches. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 19 June 2018 (UTC)-
 * yes it would be indvidual pages, that have had updates more recently than 2015. Wikisoruce uses an Index: as an overall collation of many Page:'s which are later transcluded.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:48, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And what do I see where? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Well you go to the Index page and click on one of the page numbers, which brings up the scanned page(right) and the transcribed version (left).


 * Example s:Page:The_Army_and_Navy_Hymnal.djvu/32 which translcudes to The Army and Navy Hymnal/Hymns/Our God, Our Help in Ages Past.
 * There's a contents list here: The_Army_and_Navy_Hymnal/Hymns/Index_of_First_Lines ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:16, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Let me understand: it's source, - if the source doesn't have a tempo indication, there should be none, right? Not "more reasonable", just none. If the source has a tempo indication, that should be shown. - Generally: I think you can safely revert everything that isn't in the source. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:38, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for David Garvey
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Pierre Boulez
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this! It's come round more quickly than I expected... Dmass (talk) 05:11, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * He gave me an unfogettable Götterdämmerung, and more. What do you think about the discussion on his talk, mercifully archived end of 2017? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Gerda, personally I'm not in favour of an infobox. Did you see the Götterdämmerung in Bayreuth? If so, lucky you! Dmass (talk) 10:19, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Lucky me ;) - I had the good and undeserved luck that a friend who was a long-term member of the Richard-Wagner-Verband was not in favour of Chérau's staging (nor Kupfer's of Der fliegende Holländer) and gave me her two tickets. - Did you know ? No answer yet (in more than two years) to the question "Those opposing: please show a different way to show the data of birth and death together at a glance, which is standard for printed encyclopedias." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Copyedit help Antwon Rose Jr.
Hi Gerda, if you have the time, a little copyedit edit help at the Shooting of Antwon Rose Jr. would be appreciated! Sincerely, Darouet (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's readable - and terrible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks — and yes, it's terrible, sorry to begin your day with that :/ -Darouet (talk) 23:44, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's good not to stay silent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of An Wasserflüssen Babylon
Hello! Your submission of An Wasserflüssen Babylon at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:14, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It'll get there! Your perseverance is amazing!   78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 16:14, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * My first barnstar was for resilience, a few weeks into my career here which started with a deleted article ;) - Loosing friends, and dealing with arbitration made it grow. Mathsci hasn't edited in a while, I am worried about his health. If you find unsourced things, consider to comment them out, for now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ooh, I'd rather not. The paragraphs are well-written and provide important context.  Would you rather I try to find the sources and negate my review as "involved", or that I keep the review in place?   78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 16:28, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Replied at the nom, and I commented out for now, because I would not be able to match refs and facts. Someone who can may bring them back, it can still go to GA after DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in study
Hello,

I am E. Whittaker, an intern at Wikimedia with the Scoring Team to create a labeled dataset, and potentially a tool, to help editors deal with incivility when they encounter it on talk pages. A full write-up of the study can be found here: m:Research:Civil_Behavior_Interviews. We are currently recruiting editors to be interviewed about their experiences with incivility on talk pages. Would you be interested in being interviewed? I am contacting you because of your involvement in Wikipedia’s Women in Red project. The interviews should take ~1 hour, and will be conducted over BlueJeans (which does allow interviews to be recorded). If, so, please email me at ewhit@umich.edu in order to schedule an interview.

Thank you Ewitch51 (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I have not faced incivility (in words), just lack of good faith (which is worse). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ewitch51, an illustration of what I mean is pictured above, - if that sort of "incivility" could also be part of your study, I am ready to help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Gerda Arendt Thank you for letting me know! That is absolutely something I would consider incivility. If you would be willing to be interviewed about this sort of thing, you can make an appointment at https://calendar.google.com/calendar/selfsched?sstoken=UU1RWWM4Nmp2Ym5ffGRlZmF1bHR8ZGFjZjQyZTMyMjc2NTE1YjcxN2U5MmFlMDU3MDlkNzY.

Also, before your interview, it would be very helpful if you could please select one clearly uncivil talk page, and one clearly civil talk page (by your definition) to review with me, if at all possible Ewitch51 (talk) 14:58, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ewitch51, I think I rather focus on writing articles. Incivility isn't really something I face often. You can look at my talk page archives of several years. The talk page lacking civility most (for my taste) was of Laurence Olivier, but it was years ago, and I try to forget it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ein Haus voll Glorie schauet
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Alma mater discussion
Hey!

Thanks for your comment on my discussion. I've left a reply here, and just thought I'd let you know.

Dathus •   Talk     Contribs   22:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Volker David Kirchner
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Sarah Louvion
Just what I fear the most: Being proofread by you. LouisAlain (talk) 10:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I only do it for articles with DYK potential ;) - I have been asked not to mention the Frankfurt Opera too often, so thought mentioning their orchestra 4 times in one article was dangerously promotional ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

FAC mentoring
Hi Gerda, thanks for your great work over at DYK. In any case, this time it's me who's asking for a favor. I've been thinking of nominating Puella Magi Madoka Magica for featured article status for several years now, but I haven't done an FAN before (though I have experience with GANs). I'd like to nominate it for FAN, but I'm rather inexperienced with the whole process, so if it's okay, could you please mentor me through the process? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:50, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I am ready to help you through the process. First thing I'd do if I was you is nominate for peer review (WP:PR). Will look later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've actually requested a peer review of it a number of times already, as can be seen on the talk page. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:43, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I had no time to look, just returned from a great evening with Marlis Petersen as the Merry Widow, Joana Mallwitz conducting, - it may be tomorrow, close to midnight where I live. You could go through the criteria already, if you haven't (you probably have), such as images have to be licensed, better come with alt texts, and sources have to be reliable, and detailed. I'm not familiar with your topic so will not be able to tell RS from others. My last FAC failed, you can look what's not good enough and why ;) -Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)-
 * What a coincidence. I've been last Saturday to the Merry Widow in Brisbane, also conducted by a woman, Vanessa Scammell. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:58, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That reminds by Gerda. Actually, I'm related to a composer: the Filipino composer Nicanor Abelardo, who was a noted composer in the early 20th century. He composed a number of love songs as well as the school hymn of the University of the Philippines (the school's College of Music's main building, as well as the main theater of the Cultural Center of the Philippines, are named after him). Abelardo was the first cousin of my late great-grandmother, as his father and my great-great-grandfather (incidentally his first financier) were brothers. My great-grandmother (his cousin) and my grandmother are also musicians, so I guess music runs in my family. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:59, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both! - Will do my homework (Precious, watchlist, translate another singer and nominate last week's for DYK), and the return to the proposed FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Tricky homework that was, sorry. I don't find a single formal peer review, please help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps we start with comments from this peer right here?
 * I suggest more time information. Tell us when it was written in one of the first sentences, best the very first, and give a year at times later, instead of only saying "While collaborating ..." - imagine that we readers have no idea when certain things happened in that culture.
 * For the same reason, please supply more links for things you may think everybody knows, for example "magical girl" subgenre. The following sentence from the plot remains a mystery to me: "Madoka also learns that Homura is a magical girl from a different timeline who has repeated the same month countless times in order to try to save Madoka from a grisly fate."
 * Are there images of people involved? It would add some real life ;)
 * For the plot: add the List of episodes to the See also.
 * Want to explain somewhere that "Puella magi" is Latin for "girl (or daughter) of magic (or the magician)"? Compare Biblical magi.
 * I think the dark undertones should be mentioned in the lead. - For a start. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll keep those suggestions in mind and I'll integrate them into the article over the coming weeks. As for the images, some of the voice actors involved in the series do have free images, as well as the series' music composer. Should I add their images to the article? As for the list of episodes, it's already linked in the "Anime" section. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:30, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - I needed the episodes for the plot, confessing that the first round, I understood practically nothing, the second more, and after reading a bit in the episodes, A LOT more. Perhaps make the plot section even a bit longer, for us newbies to the topic. I'd add one image for the composer, - voice actors perhaps in a gallery to be fair and not single one out, or not at all, - you decide. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I've started a peer review for the article, feedback from you and other editors is appreciated. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Seven seals
Hi Gerda! Wow, that was a long time ago. Funny thing with Wikipedia is that it is always still there however much one's life has changed, rather like the Recording angel. I don't know that I have anything very sensible to add. I do know that I tried to suggest in the Doktor Faustus (Thomas Mann) article that he somehow had this in mind when writing about Adrian Leverkuhn's Apocalypsis cum Figuris and was firmly, and I am sure rightly, advised that no such connection ever existed. As I was also interested in Pfitzner's Palestrina and Karl Erb I was obviously letting my imagination run away with me (in the way that Wikipedia editors aren't supposed to do!). I remember I translated a certain amount from the German Wikipedia as it then was for this article, and added the synopsis using the composer's commentary ("Einige Bemerkungen zum Text...") and a few concentrated hearings of the Julius Patzak version. I have just re-read it (10 years later) and I must say I seem to have got into the apocalyptic mood! I am feeling rather more Franciscan, even slightly Savignac, these days.

The problem is, if one were to add to the lead, the obvious thing to put there would be something about the cultural/historical horizon of the time and place of its composition. There are all the hall-marks, the violent intensity, the End-times, music as social proclamation, preoccupation with occult imagery, revelling in prophecy, Christianity as catastrophism, Schiksal - makes me think of Weinheber in his darker moods, and Steiner in his more euphoric ones. I'm not very keen to articulate all that stuff, and maybe it tends to attract the wrong sort of interest. Nor could I reference it properly, and I'm sure there has been a lot written on the subject. Maybe the content speaks for itself, without trying to sum up the unspeakable in a few inadequate words. So perhaps you will let me off this particular assignment? With very kind regards, Eebahgum (talk) 19:24, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Understand. I didn't think of anything new which would need referencing, but of a summary of the existing which might help a random reader, who may not even know that the phrase about seven seals has biblical roots, decide whether to read further or not. For the Franciscan, I wrote about the oratorio Laudato si' ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That looks more sublime. And, a most professionally written and presented article. I am too verbose. If I can I'll add something to that lead. Your influence on Wikipedia is a most benign one! Pax vobiscum. Eebahgum (talk) 20:02, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for City of New York (1885 ship)
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Maria Bengtsson (soprano)
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

gracias
It is not always that another long term internee of this circus de la informacion turns up and offers the wikipedian version of condolences (you've been on how long?....) it sort of tickles the deep recess of the memories to think I had started with articles about things like that.... lets hope we can last longer, with hope and faith and endurance... JarrahTree 10:10, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming over. I have an infobox on my user page which tells you how long ... ;) - Condolences is the least we can do, for those missed here for ever. Another sad group I mourn is those who felt "despised" and gave up (see desert image above, - I took it), often because we were not kind enough. Hope, faith and endurance are things to live for, thank you for the reminder. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: JarrahTree, DYK that I have trees in my "blushing" corner? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * if you are anywhere in what used to be called europe - gird the loins, gather the warriors, and go forward into the crazy eu plan to wreck things, (see your local countries position in regard to pending EU Copyright legislation Articles 11 and 13)- we live in very very very strange times... JarrahTree 10:36, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * my train travel between vienna, budapest, bucharest and istanbul in 2009 was something to be enjoyed... my feeling now it would be a terrible exercise... JarrahTree 10:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * good memories - sofia and plovdiv for me, by plane + bus this year, and completely enjoyable however short --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

your encouragement
I have tired of barnstars and generic things - here is a personalised unworded message

Is always appreciated - and the visual thanks would take so much space to explain, it sits there as a thanks alone.

I have a horrible feeling in the edit conflict I accidentally removed your reply - sorry... JarrahTree 11:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * (ec, twice) Beautiful and so alive, and personal! Be encouraged to show more image, less frame in galleries ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your edit
you are right - but why did you mark it as a revert when it wasn't one? Crotopaxi (talk) 20:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * just for laziness, excuse me, - I had to modify less in the previous version ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * - if you click "(undo)" the editing page comes up, and you can make further changes to the article, and therefore it isn't technically an "undo".  However, the Wikipedia notification system will still go off, because "undo" was the original click.  Does that help in any way?   78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 21:19, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for more words - I thought I said that ;) - To be even more precise: if you click "undo" the code of the previous version comes up, which you can modify further, and leave an edit summary. I prefer both to a plain "revert", with no chance to change, and no edit summary, - however the notifying system treats both the same, it seems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56 copyedit

 * You did an excellent job. I was tempted to click thank you for every single edit, but normally restrict myself to one per day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and there was certainly no need to thank me for every edit :-). It was a pleasure. Good luck and all the best,  Mini  apolis  15:25, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Claus Wisser
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Piano Quartets (Beethoven)
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Seals
Is that any good? (Very neutral!) Eebahgum (talk) 06:33, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * P.S. Delete or amend as you think fit. Eebahgum (talk) 07:01, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Love it! Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Druet
As I said, I am no music expert. I have no idea how I distinguish whether a piece is a Baroque lyric or an opera. Though I find many lists of performances, I have no idea how to put them in the sections of opera or concert. But, I do know that I have covered all the stuff that was mentioned as being a BLP. Were it me, I would propose ...that French mezzo-soprano Isabelle Druet, a fan of reggae, performed with Les Arts Florissants at Carnegie Hall and has played as Carmen in Nancy and Düsseldorf? Seems to me, reggae, Carnegie Hall, and Carmen would each be draws if one is looking for a wide audience. I know that what you wanted was a review, but I felt that had I done that, it would have just not been promoted based on the comments. If you are okay with me proposing that hook, I will do it and ping those previously involved to see if they will now move it along. SusunW (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Go ahead ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * And it moved to prep! SusunW (talk) 06:12, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's good news, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome. Glad to have been able to help! SusunW (talk) 12:58, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Now only 5 singers from the June drive open, working for no. 6, and hope for no. 7. 1 appeared (stats!), 2 are in prep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Ludwigsburg Palace to FAC
Gerda, I need your help with FAC. For a total of maybe like half a year, I've been hard at work at Ludwigsburg Palace (in fact I asked for your help for it once before!), and now I think I've completed it. Ish. Since you're an FAC Mentor, and we've worked together previously and have similar interests, I figured there would be no one better to help me with this. I'm looking forward to my first FA :D. – Vami _IV✠  01:24, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your splendid work on it, which I watched. Take it to GA first, a good reviewer is Farang Rak Tham (thorough, - may be stressful, but is worth it). Information is on WP:GA, when you think it's ready you just place a template on the top of the article talk. I guess the subtopic would be Architecture. Then run a peer review. Than come back for FAC, and before, or even before PR, look at some things to look for a bit higher up ;) --

Psalm 98
Hi, I just fixed up my part of Psalm 98. The Christianity and Musical settings sections need more referencing, if you have time. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:41, 2 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Yoninah! Psalm 137 today first (see below), and another great female singer, Carla Henius, another one you can't believe had no article until a week ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for An Wasserflüssen Babylon
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Val Gagné, Ontario
Thank you for reviewing Template:Did you know nominations/Val Gagné, Ontario. Could you give me some tips on how to do a review (I'm at 5 DYKs). Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 00:39, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I have little time today. Look at the nominations page and see which style suits you, and choose a topic (for the start) that you know something about, and an article that is not too complex ;) - When you have done (or begun) the review (looked at the criteria), add the link to it in the above, and I can help you more particularly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Bridges Preparatory School.  Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that. I reserve the red icon for hopeless cases, which this is not. It was created as a Draft on 21 June, and moved to Main space the same day. The nomination on 1 July is a few days late, but I - if I was the reviewer - would be lenient ;) - I see two things wrong in the hook. - Being a student of a school doesn't automatically create a conflict of interest, and POV was discussed during the AfC process. - I recommend you talk to the nominator more. - For a start, I need sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Is Template:Did you know nominations/Val Gagné, Ontario good to go now? Thanks!  13:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You need to note there (not only here) what you reviewed, for the record. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 13:33, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
This is kind of random, but I want to express my appreciation for your making Wikipedia a better and healthier editing environment as such a force for positivity and kindness. It means a lot to me, and the 'pedia is better for it.

Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 21:46, 5 July 2018 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * Thank you for random kindness ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Britta Stallmeister
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Erlöserkirche, Munich
– Ianblair23 (talk) 00:55, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cornelia Wulkopf
Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks to editors like you who are willing to review articles such as North Cascades National Park and offer excellent suggestions, it is now a Featured Article! (but I think you knew the article had been promoted before I did even!)--MONGO (talk) 16:02, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I knew it early ;) - Would 2 October be a good day for TFA? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Hans Günter Winkler
Thanks for your thanks. And BTW, I once attended a three-day event – at which I took Prince Philip's picture. Erstaunlich? Sca (talk) 20:58, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes ;) - One source has it that Elizebeth II wanted him to sit next to her at a dinner table ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Isabelle Druet
Alex Shih (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK
Hey Gerda! Hope you are well and enjoying the summer. I have lost--as in misplaced, as in can't find--the DYN nomination for Biblical criticism--do you have any idea what happened to it? Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Jenhawk777, you can look for it in "What links here?" (in the article) or on my user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Got it! Thank you!  Do you get any time off in the summer?  Is the weather nice there?  We are beginning the summer swelter here. Hope you are well--I can see you are keeping busy. :-)  Thanx Gerda! Have a great day! Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:51, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Weather is often nice in summer, but today was cold and rainy. Nice music at a regional festival, pianist Benjamin Grosvenor last! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Großmann
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Protestant Church Wilnsdorf
Gatoclass (talk) 01:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Bruckner's piano works
Hi Gerda,

I just have acquired the new CD "Ana-Marija Markovina, Anton Bruckner (1824 - 1896), Piano Works" (Hänssler Classic, HC17054), which contains premiere recordings of 13 piano works from the Kitzler Study Book.

I had previously identified 13 piano works in "Uwe Harten's Handbuch". However four of the works recorded on the CD are different. I have identified two of them via the on-line viewing of it. Consequently I have added these two works to the section "Piano works composed during Kitzler's tuition" of the List of piano compositions by Anton Bruckner‎. I could not yet identify the other two different works ("Duo" and "Thema in F"). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:23, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * That's great news! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Da der Herr Christ zu Tische saß
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

HELP!
I wasn't concerned enough about using the "white male Protestant" phrase to be difficult and say anything, until someone else objected to it, but apparently that isn't what's bothering the reviewer. They don't dislike your hook, they just want "more." I told them that was exactly what you said at first! But what they've asked for is too much! It's impossible. I don't think what they want can be done. I thought you did a good job of attempting to incorporate "more" and sticking to one sentence. I offered three alternates but none of them seem to appeal. I'm afraid the dyk nomination is going nowhere. Can you help? Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:30, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Fear not, Jenhawk777. One nomination made it 5 months later, and in the end, the hook doesn't matter too much. I have an unwritten rule of 2 comments max in a discussion ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi. Would you mind creating this please? It may get some views because of this.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:51, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I am busy for days to come. How about this: you try in a sandbox, and I look over it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Dear Gerda, thank you very much for welcoming me to Wikipedia! Johannes Schade (talk) 07:11, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Ezra Pound

 * well done] for dragging the barely interested but biased. Ceoil (talk) 13:14, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ??? You seem to want to raise more attention by coming to a well-watched talk. Ezra Pound is no article I ever was involved in, but I watch, and today people new to a strange topic were treated as if they were tag-teaming sockpuppets. Perhaps apologize there? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way the very definition is a sleeper account is one registered in 2011, resesutects across 2017 with lightweight copy edits beforeing springing into action on a contentious issue, claiming I have suffrage, been here since 2011. "a well-watched talk"? Is that a warning or just hubris? Ceoil (talk) 13:21, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * number of page watchers 319 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, so hubris and we are getting nowhere. Just to say, that multi pinging canvassing was poor form. We have rules against it for reasons. Ceoil (talk) 13:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It was poor form. So is adding multiple ad hominems to a closed discussion that already had its fill.  Why not quit spazzing disengage? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 13:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Should I have mentioned their name without a link? Inconvenient for those who don't know SlimVirgin and Victoria. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Here is where the involvement with Ezra Pound started. I always wondered why, but that list didn't just get put together after church today. I've closed the discussion and hope we can reconvene later when everyone is calmer. Adding: Gerda, because you have no involvement as you say above, the list wasn't necessary and if you felt you absolutely had to provide a list, (I could have, might have), yes, the noping template is the one to use in these cases. The results aren't pretty. Victoriaearle (tk) 13:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It is where the watching started. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

After edit conflict: please unwatch the article. Victoriaearle (tk) 13:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Curly, for a man who swears like a blind sailor, its a bit rich that you are viewing this through the prism of civillity rather than the broader context of co-ordinated attack. Sock puppeting over years is serious business, so will gather my thoughts before requesting an investigation (presumably you have read the full EP thread, and are not just winging it. I know Gerda expected more thoughtful responses when she made the mass ping, haha). I think I have a few weeks before the CryMeAnOcean account runs stale. Lets wait and see. Ceoil (talk) 14:16, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not looking at it through the prism of civility. I'm telling you to stop spazzing the fuck out. And when the fuck did you of all people turn into such a priss? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 14:24, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * "Spazzing" is really the height uncool. Says one. Victoriaearle (tk) 14:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Haha Vic, next I will be accused of being "dorky". Heavens forbid :) Curly, you have a colourful way of expressing yourself, bless, but there is more going on here than meets the eye. Back off unless you know what you are talking about. Ceoil (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Hans Günter Winkler
Good point - any better now? GiantSnowman 14:32, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure. I think they differentiated the specific show jumper and the general equestrian (any discipline). How about the general record first, the the specific? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Der goldene Drache
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sarah Louvion
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin Steinberg (conductor)
Hello, just following up to see if your going to pass this for DYK? I believe today is the deadline. By the way, I did a qpq review yesterday.  JGHowes   talk  14:10, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll look. Fear not, once you nominated in time, there's no other deadline. Last week, we saw an article I had nominated in February ;) - Look above: "principal flute", not "first flute". Did you consider that point?. Let's talk in the nomination. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Hannah Arendt
Dear Gerda

A librarian friend recently lent me a copy of Margarethe von Trotta's film, about your namesake, Hannah Arendt. Having looked at the WP page, I saw it needed some major clean up and started to clean it up a bit. I was not at all surprised to see that you had contributed to it!

best, Michael
 * I you saw you working (on my watchlist). I did only minor cleanup ;) - No relation, unfortunately, - would be an honour! - Yesterday, I watched a lot going on on Kurt Masur who had the google doodle, - oh dear, not all positive. Had I known, I would have gotten a bit of discography over from de, and written some lead. When I noticed, I was too tired. 200k+ hits! - I formatted the line breaks, - without slash, they brake the editor colours, DYK. Also, it was the signature of a missed friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Supportive hugs. M
 * Feels good, thank you! - Try to click on the fly on top ;) - Off to listening to The King's Singers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Hofstetter
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Patricia Payne (mezzo-soprano)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you so much for being a great editor (well, at least as I see it)! You are so kind and encouraging, and you can own up to your mistakes. RileyBugz 私に叫ぼう私の編集 18:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Encouragement is one of my favourite things to give and receive, - like yours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hilmar Hoffmann
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Gerda!
Dude at DYK said he's okay with alternate 6! He's just waiting fior you to come back and say you are. :-) Yay! Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:25, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring on Bach's secular cantatas
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 * Care to sign that, Francis? Do you know what WP:BRD means? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

FYI
Just for your information, "premiere" is a verb and does not need "was" in front of it. Examples from the Free Dictionary: Therefore I tweaked your hook in prep. Best, Yoninah (talk) 10:40, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * to present publicly for the first time: to premiere a new film.
 * to have the first public showing: The act premiered in Boston.
 * to perform publicly for the first time, as in a particular role or medium: to premiere as Ophelia.


 * Yoninah, to my understanding, that is something done, by a person as in the example, or an organization (The Funny Opera premiered a new film), but the piece can't do it, - as much as I like active voice. I wouldn't write the second example even if it's correct (as I don't write Strauss's although it's correct). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I understand. But to my American ear, the piece premiered. Hope you don't mind my changing it in prep. Yoninah (talk) 13:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing in comparison to the above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Petra Schmidt
Casliber 00:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Stedil -- Stedil (talk) 23:20, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Stedil! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Minna Lammert
Casliber 00:02, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made&#32;to Master System: you may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Kpgj hpjm  14:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yes, I know they exist. When I think a new user can be educated I do that. This one vandalized, and all I do in such a case is clean the article. I couldn't read what was added, so can't even judge if there was hidden attack behind it. - I hate to receive warning templates (two above), so will probably not use them. I rather alert an admin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Liebe und Eifersucht
Vanamonde (talk) 00:01, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Bienertmühle
Gerda, can you help me understand why the Bienertmühle got a 5,700-word article on German Wiki? I stumbled across it because it's the Artikel des Tages. Sca (talk) 15:01, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like an act of love to me, Sca, also a nice historic review. Just translated some Gärtnerplatztheater, - similar thing, perhaps a more worthy subject ;) - Prompted by today's DYK, the opera they proclaim they premiered, but didn't. Will need to add sources, then the next DYK is ready, - much material to choose from. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:54, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Today's featured article/July 30, 2018
Thanks for the thanks :) Took me a while to get that one right. I do appreciate your frequent use of the thanks button. I think it's a brilliant addition to the interface. - Dank (push to talk) 15:21, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for saying that, feels good! I like the feature, but have been asked to not ever use it by one, and fear it would be understood as irony by some others. But, prompted by a comment from Bishonen, when I click I mean it thanks (unless I misclick, of course). I don't do more than one per day, and you deserve thanks for dealing with the whole bunch of a month's FAs speedily and diligently. Danke, as we say in German ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sankt-Bach-Passion
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Rheingold source
I've added a German language source in the "Revivals" subsection (no. 69 at present). Would you mind checking on the capitalisations? Brianboulton (talk) 10:11, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Brian, sorry, see only up to 68, or do you mean in the sandbox? Author, date, fact - any of these would also do.
 * I meant 61 not 68 - sorry. The ref is ""Spielplan der Wiener Oper 1869 bis 1955"...
 * Capitalisation fine, I'd use the English name, University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna, for the majority of our readers. de:Musikhochschule Wien, in German, only the word "Kunst" is missing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Btw, according to Lilli Lehmann -, and look for Lammert - a performance with the Bayreuth premiere personnal was planned or even done 8 years later, - worth mentioning? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 28 July 2018 (UTC)etc Brianboulton (talk) 11:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't read the source, but wherever this performance was, it wasn't at Bayreuth. What details does the source give concerning date, venue, stage direction etc? I can't any find any mention of such a performance in any of my sources. Brianboulton (talk) 12:00, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, should have added "in Munich". Excerpts of Lilli Lehmann's book are also (quoted) in English books, will check, but not right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Enoch zu Guttenberg
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 22: Lord
I don't like to revert the regulars, even on something trivial, so I'd thought I'd check with you. Would you have any objection if we had "Lord" spelled at least with small caps,, where the KJV does it? It is an actual feature of the KJV text and does do the useful (to nerds like me) service of showing where the word Lord is a translation of Yahweh, as opposed to other terms.Alephb (talk) 01:51, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No, learning, thank you for asking. The topic is new to me. What does the small lord translate then? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Small Lord would translate either adon (lord, master), or adonai (literally "my lords" but a reference to the singular deity, so traditionally translated "Lord"). Due to a practice of reading out loud "Adonai" every time "Yhwh" was found in the text, Greek and other languages in translation started using the word "Lord" instead of "Yahweh". So when reading aloud, both the Hebrew word "Adonai" and the Hebrew word "Yhwh" gets read as "Adonai" even though one is a title and one is a proper name. The small caps in the KJV then tip off the reader when it's the replacement practice being used.
 * Additional twist: the phrase Adonai YHWH shows up from time to time in the Hebrew Bible. When that happens, the practice in Hebrew is not to read (repetitively) "Adonai Adonai" ("Lord Lord") as the rules would suggest, but instead Adonai Elohim ("Lord God"), presumably because this sounds a bit better. So when you see "Lord G" in the KJV or similar translations, the word "God" stands in for Yahweh.
 * So basically, small caps on either word tip you off that the word doesn't actually reflect the written Hebrew "Lord" or "God", but are simply being used as substitutes for the proper name. Alephb (talk) 08:41, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for explaining that well! - Feel free to look at other psalm which I touched, some more, some less, without system, just when I link to one from another article and find it not satisfactory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:28, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * All right, I've got the small caps in Psalm 22 now. For what it's worth, in the KJV " God" means the Hebrew is Yhwh elohim, while "Lord " means the Hebrew is Adonai Yhwh. The whole system is very odd. Alephb (talk) 00:26, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you think of writing this expanation as a footnote? - The articles with text can be seen on my user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure. I think instead of the whole explanation I gave here, I'd just give a much shorter version appropriate to each instance, but if you think that's appropriate, I'll go for it. Alephb (talk) 16:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Just try in Psalm 22, and we take it from there, yes shorter, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * All right. I've got a quick explainer on Psalm 22. Alephb (talk) 16:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Donald Trump baby balloon
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Kateryna Kasper
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Julien Hamelle
Sory for the delay, I underwent surgery which led me to slep 20 hours per day with somes naps filling the gaps... Commissions still welcome though LouisAlain (talk) 07:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for letting me know, and all the best for your health. Perhaps take a deep look at the gladiolas above, - they (not van Gogh's though) were the flowers on my parents' wedding day, 30 July. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 30 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Can you add the name/names under which his firm is known to the lead? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Hermann Mohr
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry
You probably care little but i just want to make clear that while i am complaining about the hooks, it is in no way to be understood as a criticism of the content work you do, or anyone elses for that matter. I actually quite admire the work you do and the passion you have for expanding the encyclopedia as well as the topics you work on. I also can understand wanting to share that passion with other people, which i also find rather admirable. So, i just wanted to sincerely apologize if it comes across as if i am attacking or even denigrating your hard work. That is not my intention at all. Sorry to even bother you with this but i thought it needed saying, because i really do admire the content work and passion. 91.96.116.138 (talk) 10:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, for coming over and mentioning passion! I'd just have more time for creating articles if the first approach was taken even if not the greatest possible, instead of arguing back and forth, trying possibilities, all deemed not good enough, trying to mention a certain role for contrast only to find out she was sick the day of the premiere and thus not reviewed, and then ERRORS, and not enough, then another general discussion of hook interest. I could have translated five short articles in the time spent on that topic, and spent for what? Raise stats from 1,1k to 1,5? End of rant, - that's what you get for being nice and coming over ;) - Will welcome you know, because I admit to not care much about the comments of red-talk IPs, and like your substantial contributions. How about signing up? I have a bad memory for numbers and would like to recognize you the next time we meet. - They just added new BWV numbers, making 1 and 2 what used to be a and b, and I notice how bad I am in remembering, and don't think that 1 always stand for a former "a", no, that would be not confusing enough. Another rant, fit's nicely under "Sorry" ;) - Happy editing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah i understand how frustrataing and pointless that must be. But that actually is part of the reason why i am bringing it up, to improve the process/criteria to actually have less time wasted in the future. Now, if i am going about that the right way, or if there even is a chance of anything like that happening... depends on who you ask i guess. Sadly that does mean wasting time in discussion, which really will be wasted if there is no result. Hence why i am a little pushy i guess, i just don't want the time to go to waste but there to be some result that improves the clarity etc. That is my motivation when bringing this up more or less, not to just be annoying or whatever :P In regards to me being an IP, i made some pretty bad experiences with people on different articles and their talk pages. So i swore to myself never to make an account... and i am way too stubborn for my own good so... yeah here i am, a long time later and still no account haha. Funny thing there actually was that the people perceived as uncivil like Cassianto among others were actually the most helpful while the 'good guys/gals' completely put me off, but i digress. Schönen Tag noch und hoffe es ist nicht zu heiß bei ihnen :) 91.96.116.138 (talk) 11:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Understand. Heiß, aber nicht zu heiß. I had a good talk with Cassianto (see 2018 archive) and hope not to put you off. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:56, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nah, not at all. We just disagree on something, or perhaps even want the same thing but go about it in polar opposites, haha. There is nothing more to it, at least for me. But i really don't want to take even more of your time ;) 91.96.116.138 (talk) 12:01, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I just wondered for a second if I was among the good gals ;) - Take the time to read the archive, the longish talk with Casianto and 100+ DYK hooks, - then I will have finished my planned translation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:07, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Catherine Gayer
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Image cropping
Done. File:Sara Hershkowitz 2018-07-07 Holzhausen.jpg. Stephen 23:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, perfect timing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:30, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sara Hershkowitz
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day

 * Thank you! Lovely music and scenery pictured above, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:30, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy First Edit Day Gerda. &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   14:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, came as a surprise, in nice coincidence with the soprano whose pic I took. Don't miss the video of her unique performance ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * So awesome, Gerda!! Happy First Edit Day!!!! <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 22:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Invitation
Dear Gerda,

You are cordially invited to join the Portals WikiProject.

This is a very active project. We are in the process of completely revamping the entire portal system, and cleaning up the portal namespace. After these are done, we'll be greatly expanding the collections of portals. We have many design discussions going on, and many task types to choose from.

We also have a newsletter, that covers the progress of portal development, and the latest toys.

If you are interested, please feel welcome to sign-up at WikiProject_Portals.

By the way, I'm very interested in what you think of portals. What do you like most about them? What do they lack that they should have? What can't they do, that you would like them to be able to do?

I look forward to your replies. &mdash; The Transhumanist  09:05, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: Please me in your reply. Thank you. -TT


 * Thank you for the invitation, and I will watch the project talk, and keep doing what I do for Project Germany (I spoke up in the deletion discussion), but don't want to become a formal member, - have too much going on already. Good luck! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Gerd Hatje
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello
My name is John. I spent several years in Germany and enjoy reading discussions in which you participate. I followed the thread on the Franz Schubert hook today and proposed ALT3. Alles Gute!72.94.18.189 (talk) 19:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, John! I played with you proposal, and it got taken - at least when I looked last. Was outside, enjoyable, much more than discussions ;) - Nice to meet you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It is interesting (or annoying) to read these DYK discussions concerning what a hook should or should not say.72.94.18.189 (talk) 20:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * For this one, I felt particularly not understand. As if we could summarize what Schubert did in 200 characters, including that he gave only one concert of his works. We can't, nor should we, I thought all we needed was a reminder of some great things he created. The Beatles analogy showed me how different some think. I used the Beatles also once, Thomanerchor, which had been moved to something English, and I said that we don't say "Die Käfer aus Liverpool" ;) - 2010, those were the days when I felt understood, and it was moved back. Still on the talk, if you like a good discussion. Or try Götterdämmerung, 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * To me the main point was to contrast the volume of his work with the single performance. You can get more info from the article itself. (Kaefer: das ist aber gut! Nie gehoert.)72.94.18.189 (talk) 20:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I liked the simple "prolific", and said so. - beatles / beetles ;) - Just added to Donald Trump in music, didn't even know such an article exists. Man lernt nie aus! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I often think that on Wikipedia "Es gibt nichts, was es nicht gibt".72.94.18.189 (talk) 21:09, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Stimmt! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

You might want to put a title on the box with the pic of Sara H. I thought it was you. 72.94.18.189 (talk) 21:58, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

images
Hi Gerda hope you are well--I can see you are always busy. I have a question I hope won't take too much of your time. I would like to reduce the size of the images of two-source theory and four source theory because they run into what's below them and I think it's annoying! But I went and looked for a smaller version and there doesn't seem to be one available. Is there anything I can do? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:27, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You just specify the size, - I'll do it for you, then you can see how, and can adjust to what you like. The secret word is upright, which you normally specify for upright images, without value, to make them the same size as the landscape ones. You can add a multiplicator value. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, I thought there must be something! Since it has that window so it can be seen full screen, I thought it would improve it not to have it hanging down into the next section. It still sits on Gunkel's head but not quite as badly!  Maybe I'll remove some text--maybe that will help.  Thanx again, Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:44, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * How about dropping the first altogether, - looks like it can be described in words within the text, and give more room to the other? Play with the upright factors. 0.7 to 1.3 are considered comfortable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm...I will definitely think on that. I have reduced the captions and that did make a difference.  The only way to read the 4-source now is to enlarge it, so I may do as you suggest and just remove the other one.  Better one you can see than two crammed in that you can't?? Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Right. Need sleep ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Your idea worked! Schlafen Sie gut!  Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Schubert
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 97
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 5 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I'm in a series of psalms, DYK? Help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sechs Lieder, Op. 68 (Strauss)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Carla Henius
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Alfons Tracki
Gerda, I know you do mainly music, but Alfons Tracki was born a German and was still part of the Martyrs of Albania. He is now a catholic saint. In that case, I was wonderign if you and I could be interested in a DYK co-nomination! I created it 5 days ago, but would need some help with translation from dewiki, as I don't speak German, and the article needs expansion. That would make the article prettier. I intend to add some more in the next couple of days so that the nomination can be done within 7 days. Just in case you are interested. Best! --1l2l3k (talk) 14:55, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I can add from de (tomorrow) but see the problem that sources there are offline, which will be tricky for DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't worry too much, I'll add tomorrow as well. It's just that I don't want to miss anything from the dewiki article, which seems the most expanded. The stories of these martyrs are extremely difficult to find online, and the material is sometimes gruesome, to say the least, for how they were treated, but, if we don't write about it, who will? --1l2l3k (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree, just wanted to caution for the DYK part. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I started the DYK, see Template:Did you know nominations/Alfons Tracki, under both of our names. If you can just do the review of another article, and double check on the German wiki, perhaps expanding a little the article, that would be great! --1l2l3k (talk) 19:34, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your great additions, and for the help! I did the review of the Template:Did you know nominations/Serruria elongata, so nothing else to be done for this DYK. Best! --1l2l3k (talk) 14:54, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all you did for him. I will still translate more from de, when I get to it. Concert first. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for German Equestrian Federation
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

FA nomination
Now underway for Biblical criticism. I hope anything they find I can fix! Wish me luck! Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:50, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Criticism in the title ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:53, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Capital C? Really? I thought the only capitals in Wiki titles were the first words! I will go fix that right away!  But I came to ask for your participation at the FAC--and then found this--so, please comment if you are still interested in the article--and I will go fix the capitalization.  Why are they both capitalized by the way? Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:50, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I was too brief ;) - I didn't mean to cap Criticism, just thought it's funny that you invite to criticise something with criticism in the title. I have three DYK noms with no qpq, think about the fourth, started to expand someone for his birthday tomorrow, and will now go out! - It will take time until I'll get to it. - Thank you for the comment below! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * As to below, You are most welcome, but no one I know here deserves it more than you. As to BC, I know everyone wants you!  If you can't get to it, you can't, don't let it stress you for a second.  A couple people have now shown up.  I was afraid it was going to die from non-participation.  It will pass or it won't, but I did want it to at least have the chance. Now it does.  I still want your input of course if you can, but if not, know that it is getting reviewed and it doesn't all hang on your shoulders. Thank you Gerda!  Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:29, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * BC means Bach cantatas for me ;) - I just explained that I want to comment, but it will take time. As they now leave FAC's open for a long time, especially for a newcomer, that will be no problem, just wait. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Alicia Nafé
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, blushing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Boy do I agree with this barnstar! Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Ich auch. Narky Blert (talk) 23:43, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

John Rhys Evans
Hi, thank you for your recent edits to Arthur Davies (tenor). I have been working on the article on another Welsh opera singer, John Rhys Evans, but I have doubts about his notability. Please take a look and add any thoughts to Talk:John Rhys Evans. Thanks, Verbcatcher (talk) 01:21, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I took a quick look but want to do some other things first. The more notable a person, the shorter the article. Trim it, please. No roles in the lead that every baritone sings (which may mean no roles). Give him an infobox, with a upright image where we can see at a glance where he worked. When I wrote my first article, they asked: for independent reviews and competition. Did he teach? I recently wrote an article about a borderline notable singer, compare Kateryna Kasper. She worked with Harry Kupfer, look at how skimpy that article was - help welcome, it's his birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comments. I did not write the article, I suspect that it was written by a family member which may have led to the somewhat overblown style. I have started to clean it up, but don't want to spend a lot of time on it is he is not 'notable'. Verbcatcher (talk) 17:10, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * You are right, it's like a relative told family stories. If he sang Pizarro and Don Giovanni in Glyndebourne, he's notable, but there's no source, and the (sourced) recorded officer is less notable, even with Victoria de los Angeles. How about asking project opera? Martin Evans, are you a relative? What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Haha, of course we're all related..... but I'll try and take a look. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC) ... a great shame there are no sources for the images. That second one makes him look like someone out of Thunderbirds... but anyone who sang for the Duke of Cornwall must be a bit notable....??

DYK for Marie Lehmann (soprano)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 47
Hi, the KJV numbering is different from the Hebrew version. Do you want to mention that? Or do you want to add the first verse as in Psalm 138? Yoninah (talk) 09:33, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Will think about it. Thanks for what you did already! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I chose a Luther Bible image, for diversity, which also has the different numbering, because the Hebrew verse 1 sits on top, between header and the verses. In German, that would not be recited or sung. Perhaps we should make a footnote, as the one for the capital Lord vs. lord? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 138
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

A recent YouTube find
I was looking (unsuccessfully) for a perfect performance by both singer and pianist of "Der Zwerg", when YouTube offered me this instead.

I liked those occasions when DF-D stopped a performance because he felt he needed to teach the accompanist something. Narky Blert (talk) 20:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Sehr präsent! Danke! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Piano Sonata No. 2 (Chopin)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 47
Hi, I started the expansion on August 12. Are you able to expand it any more and nominate it for DYK within the week? (I still need to rework the last few lines about the Christianity aspect under Background and themes.) Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 09:13, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'll try, today and tomorrow, I'll be mostly away, pleasantly so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I finished the reworking that I wanted to do. Over to you. Yoninah (talk) 13:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Today! Hope to find enough for DYK, help welcome, anybody reading this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. We're still about 250 char short of a 5x expansion. Do you have anything add to the liturgical use in Catholic, Anglican, or Protestant liturgies? Yoninah (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I do what I can. Completely forgot that we started expanding 12 August, sorry about that. Otherwise, we were there. I will nominate today, anyway. Tony, any help with Catholic use? It's none of the regular psalms for Vespers ;) - I looked around for Psalm 47, but will do the the same for Psalm 46, to catch the Latin versions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. We could certainly ask for an IAR on 8 days. Yoninah (talk) 12:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * We are long enough now, without IAR. Just a few more refs ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! You did a great job. The page looks great, and it was also speedily approved. I looked up Anglican liturgy, but am not familiar enough with Anglican chants to include that. Yoninah (talk) 20:33, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Under "Uses", we usually have the sections Judaism, Catholic, Anglican, Protestant. Maybe "Christianity" is out of place here? Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * In this case, they seem to not differ much. To my understanding, Anglican is part of Protestant anyway. In all three (Catholic, Anglican, other Protestant), psalms are part of the liturgy. There will be a psalm (or a paraphrasing hymn) in every Catholic and (United) Protestant ordinary Sunday service. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Alfons Tracki
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks much Gerda! Precious is like a WikiLove on drugs, as it remains forever! Don't know if I deserve it, :-D. --1l2l3k (talk) 15:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Enough that I know that you deserve it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for The Little Nigar
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, M. Debussy! Thanks to the many who helped! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 36
Hi, all ready for you. There are a number of images in Commons (listed under External links) that we could use. Yoninah (talk) 01:05, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Will take a few days. The Little Nigar for Debussy went well, two more pieces for Vaughan Willams, and two for Bernstein, - composition week! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Hanged etc.
It was not addressed to me, I am not the "you" referred to. Urselius (talk) 08:32, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * (ec) Even so. A bold edit was made, and should be discussed, not reverted, no matter by whom? (We talk about featured article Hanged, drawn and quartered, for context.) No more here, but on the article talk page, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK Biblical criticism
It looks to me as though the nomination for DYK? is probably going to die. Thank you for trying. Jenhawk777 21:11, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No DYK died so far, some were unsuccsessful because the article had problems, some were withdrawn. Some are debated for months. Perhaps return to something simple? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Symphony for Organ No. 6
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Die Walküre
Can you suggest a sensible translation of Siegfried und Sieglind: der Walküre Bestrafung? Is it "Siegfried and Seiglinde: the Valkyrie's Punishment"? That doesn't really make sense. Brianboulton (talk) 14:29, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sense or not, that's what it means. Perhaps it's two ideas, not one following the other. Or, second thought: to have seen their relationship was a new experience for Brünnhilde, and see it end was perhaps the harder fate than being punished by Wotan. Depends on context. Was out, and will be, to listen to some Bernstein, in anticipation of tomorrow's centenary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Serge Blanc (violinist)
Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Subst welcome templates
Hi, please remember to substitute your welcome templates. Thanks! <b style="color:#FA0">Darylgolden</b>(<b style="color:#F00">talk</b>) Ping when replying 06:51, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please explain. So far that was done automatically. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 25 August 2018 (UTC)


 * In this diff you forgot to substitute the template. <b style="color:#FA0">Darylgolden</b>(<b style="color:#F00">talk</b>) Ping when replying 10:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Darylgolden|, please tell me what's wrong in ? I did that hundreds of times, and - as said - it's usually substituted by a bot. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in, but I think the idea is that you should be using "". See Template:Welcome. He may have seen this before the bot ran. I have been confused by subst until now and decided to do some testing to educate myself. Just wanted to mention this outside the other thread. Take care. Jmar67 (talk) 13:51, 25 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for testing. So, I'll just keep doing it as before ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Psalms
Hi, I added the Hebrew Bible text to Psalms 2, 108, 131, and 133 as you asked. I'm leaving it to you to expand the lead and add the KJV text and the musical settings. Please note that we can certainly try for a 5x expansion of 133.

Please finish expanding Psalm 36 by August 29 so we can nominate it for a 5x expansion. (I started the expansion on August 22.) Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:59, 25 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Will see what I can do about 36 tomorrow, hopefully. - Could you take a look at Bernstein's Kaddish, and see if the Hebrew and translation can be arranged as in the psalms? A bit awkward to have a load of Hebrew, then another load of transliteration, and finally English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 47
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ina Hartwig
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Christoph Bernhard Verspoell
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Jon D. Levinson
I am so overwhelmed with gratitude I don't have enough words to express it. I wish there was something I could do for you to demonstrate it, but in this printed medium I am left with nothing but thank you. It's entirely inadequate, but thank you. I have had trouble with this same person since I got on Wikipedia a year ago. He shows up on every page I contribute to at some point and generally denigrates what I do. And usually, when he shows up, everyone else scatters. But you--you are all things brave and good and wonderful and I am forever in your debt. I know next time, you may not agree with me, and that is perfectly cool--I know it's not me, it's the content--but for me, it's the simple fact you spoke up. I can't say thank you enough Gerda. I would give you a big hug if I could. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I feel it, thank you, and it's more than adequate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

image for BC
I am searching for the image you mentioned of a non-white female, and while I have learned many wonderful things in pursuit of a name with a photo on Wikipedia, I have not yet found one. I agree it would be good to have, and I am still looking, but I am to the point now that I am wondering about uploading a photo. It would be of someone living, and common domain would probably be an issue. The Candler school of theology--one of the best seminaries in the country--has its first female head and she is black and apparently brilliant. There are pictures of her out there, but none on Wikipedia yet, and I can't find anything that indicates there is a pic of her anywhere in the common domain. I have to find the women, then check if there's a photo, then see if it's available, one at a time, so that's why it's taking so long. I just wanted you to know I am working on it--trying to anyway. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Re: Info Box Request for Samuel Adler (composer) - invitation for additional input"
Hello gerda Arendt - Many thanks for your help in creating an InfoBox for the noted German/American conductor and composer Samuel Adler (composer). It was kind of you to render your assistance in such a timely manner. Alas the Info Box has been removed once again -- perhaps because Adler is still alive? In any event, there seems to be a continuous discussion in progress here Talk:Samuel Adler (composer). Perhaps you could share your thoughts about including an InfoBox for this conductor/composer in recognition of his many accomplishments including: founding the Seventh Army Symphony Orchestra, engaging in cultural diplomacy throughout Germany and Europe after World War II, earning the U.S. Army's highest award (Medal of Honor) for services to Music, achieving recognition from Dwight D. Eisenhower, serving as a faculty member for over 60 years at such leading conservatories as the Eastman School of Music and the Juilliard School, as well as receiving recognition from his academic peers by receiving several Honorary Doctorate of Music degrees and membership in Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia and Sigma Alpha Iota. Many thanks once again for your kind and thoughtful assistance and I look forward to reading your input on Talk:Samuel Adler (composer). With best wishes for the future: 104.207.219.150 (talk) 21:45, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I am sorry I can't help you. Discussing infoboxes with some editors is a waste of your time. I like the one for Leonard Bernstein. Nice to meet you! How about signing on? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No problems- the topic of Info boxes seems to be more controversial than one might initially expect. Many thanks for your kind thoughts and best wished for your continued success on Wikipedia in the future. With Best regards 104.207.219.150 (talk) 22:57, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems to be more conroversial than Israel-Palastine, and whether an article has an infobox has largely to do with who wrote it. We just remembered three composers, compare Claude Debussy - Leonard Bernstein - Vaughan Williams. - There's also a discussion here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 36
Great job on the expansion! I removed one hymn because neither the source nor the Wikipedia article on it mention this psalm. What do you think about this as a hook:
 * ... that a verse in Psalm 36 is seen as endorsing animal welfare and animal rights?
 * ... that Saint Augustine suggested that a verse in Psalm 36 proves that animals also receive salvation?
 * Yoninah (talk) 10:53, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't quite get why you think the source hymnary, titled for Psalm 36, doesn't have it, mentioning it as no. 1. Nevermind, - we need more than 1k extra text to be 5* before thinking about animal welfare. The only good image has water of life, also a nice topic ;) - need a break. You may consider to write Jewish usage in prose instead of a bullet list that doesn't "count". Tony, anything on Catholic use? Beatific vision? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw that listed, but then I looked at Praise to the Lord, the Almighty and it doesn't mention Psalm 36 at all. Perhaps you could add it there.
 * The Jewish bulleted text certainly does count. Every line is sourced. This is the format in every other Psalm, too.
 * I like the water of life image; I replaced it. But where is this located? I can't find the Wikipedia page for "Bündheim, St. Gregor VII". Yoninah (talk) 18:51, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hymn: I don't care enough, just would prefer a hymn with an article. - - I guess you are long enough on DYK to know that bulleted don't count when it comes to character count for the 5* expansion. Make it prose and we are there, seriously, you can make it bulleted again when DYK is over. - Will look for the location, and I know the photographer, so can inquire. - Patience: another legend died, Inge Borkh, so I will probably be back only tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It’s only used one day every three years in the lectionary (nothing special, just a standard daily reading.) It is used frequently in penance services, however (quick Google of “Psalm 36 penance service should show you.) I can primary source that to diocesan websites, but I’m not sure whether it’s drawn from a list provided by the Holy See/local episcopal conferences or is just traditionally used. I’ll look more later to see if I can find secondary sourcing. TonyBallioni (talk) 11:13, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


 * What do you think of this dramatic adaption? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Before expansion began, character count was 1,116. Now it is 5,190, including the note, which is sourced. Yoninah (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Only prose counts, sorry to disappoint you, 4,397, was a little below 1,000 before. Will need a few more, which I can provided - could add about the Genevan Psalter and the English versifications, + water as God's gift. But only tomorrow, I guess. I failed bringing Dieter Thomas Heck to Recent desaths, and don't want to fail again for the soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for nominating it today! In future, I have a lot of unused QPQs that we could use. Which Psalm is next? Yoninah (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 119 for me, no DYK, too much there. Look at Brahms Requiem, we did 84, others used for it are 126 and 39. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK
Hi Gerda! Do you know how long DYK takes? (humor--I had to find a way to include 'do you know' in the question just for fun!) But actually I am wondering! Now that it's been approved is there a time frame when I should look for it? Does the nominator get notified? What happens now--I am wondering. Did you see the ending of conflict with my friend at biblical criticism? He gave me two separate apologies which I thought was really big of him and awesome and admirable in every way, and he is talking to me! It's amazing! The BC FAC has been up 22 days and it only has one upvote, so I am concerned it is going to get archived. I am in hopes the DYK might stimulate some attention--and hopefully, positive votes! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:38, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I knew ;) - For the DYK, watch WP:DYKQ, sometimes hooks get changed there without telling the writers. Right now it's in prep 2 which will become queue 2 for 1 September, and I have a Magnificat in the same set! - Its not wanted that you change the prep for your hook, but if it's a minor spelling mistake it will be forgiven. Once in a queue, only admins can make changes. If you need one, talk to an admin or request it at WP:DYKTALK (in both cases, it may happen or not). - At midnight UTC on 1 September - unless it gets moved to a different number which can happen to make room for some time-related urgency - it will go to the Main page, and you'll get a credit. - No FAC gets archived easily, - I still had no time for it, people keep dying, now Inge Borkh. It's not everybody's topic. You can invite people you think care about it. Do that on 1 September, - adding a few clicks ;) - What I also do that day is try to find more links. - DYK that most problems here are caused by misunderstandings? - Looking at the queue, I see that I should add a pic or two to tomorrow's estate, there was a request on the German Wikipedia. Off ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * That should be a DYK every month... and we should all recognize it's about us and not just the other guy! I will do nothing more to the hook--or say thank you--or anything else!  More links?  To put in the article?  Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:38, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * More links to your article. I will look where the Gut is mentioned, or should be mentioned, and link, - using the search function and following the links from it. - I looked at the pics I took, sadly: not good enough. The best one is on the singer's page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Gut Holzhausen
Ritchie333 00:02, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

FAC for Bratislava Working Group
Hello Gerda, thanks for all you do at Wikipedia. I noticed that you were on the FAC mentorship list and I was wondering if you might consider giving me some advice on Bratislava Working Group, which has passed GA. (This may be outside your area of expertise). I would like to take it to an FA if possible but I have no experience at FAC, so I was wondering if you had any advice on how to proceed. Many thanks. Catrìona (talk) 08:13, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * First step, unless you are in any hurry: a peer review, getting input from many others. Worst case: nobody shows up, but worth trying. I have little time today, but can give you this much of advice without looking at the article ;) - Look at Claude Debussy, for example, for a valuble peer review. More WP:PR. Let me know when you nominate! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Bruckner music by Chamber Music on the Fox
Dear Gerda,

I have seen thet you have thanked me for putting the YouTube link for the video of Bruckner's Psalm 114 by Chamber Music on the Fox. I have also added a link for their performance of the "forgotten" Christus factus est, WAB 10. They have also posted other parts of their concert (the two Aequali, Libera me (WAB 22), Ecce sacerdos magnus, and Afferentur regi). If you consider it opportune, I can also add links to these YouTube uploads.

John Berky provided me some time ago with a video of their concert, which performed all Bruckner religious works with trombones. It contains also the seldom performed Inveni David, WAB 19 and Vor Arneths Grab, WAB 53. Perhaps they will also put them later on YouTube. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:29, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for sharing! Music today for me, too, see the top about Strauss song sopranos ;) - I put a video of a Schönberg piece for Inge Borkh. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi Gerda, would you be able to translate the German article about the Modern Jazz Quartet's composition "Django", at de:Django (Jazz-Titel), into English? I've just started getting in to that group an I think an article on their most famous composition is sorely needed ... it's mentioned in all sorts of places here. I think a good title on here would be "Django (composition), like most other articles of this type. I could use it as a base to add a bit more info. Thanks! Graham 87 09:35, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Absolutely needed, I agree. Django (jazz)? Not today, and I will need help - your? - with the specific jazzy terms, - also it will be less "emphatisch" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can try to help out. I agree about the "less emphatisch" bit. :-) The title should either be "Django (composition)" or maybe "Django (jazz composition)" (though that seems a bit long-winded to me). Not "Django (jazz)", because it's not a type of jazz, just a jazz composition. Graham 87 10:12, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Completely by accident, I just found a source by Ted Gioia, The Jazz Standards: A Guide to the Repertoire, which has a short snippet about "Django". It appears to talk about the structure of the piece a bit differently to the German article, so I can add info from that reftoo. Graham 87 14:46, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you made any progress on this? If not, would you mind if I created a short article myself with the English refs I've found, and you could add text from de.wiki if and when you feel inclined to do so? I'm quite happy to do everything except the translation myself (e.g. finding links from other articles). Graham 87 09:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, was busy with other things, and won't get to it until next week. (Singing Brahms Requiem for the next 3 days, rehearsals for concert, + seeing Tri sestri). If it's urgent, go ahead, I'll check and add later then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, understandable. Have fun ... you know how much I love the Brahms Requiem! I had a listen to a bit of Tri sestri on YouTube ... certainly an interesting sound world! I'll probably get to the article later today. Graham 87 00:58, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * All done, for now ... I didn't expect it to be longer than the German entry! Now to add links ... Graham 87 07:58, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Other psalms
In future, could I use this text in Wikisource to input the King James Version of the Psalms text? Yoninah (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * That's what I do. It's also linked in external links (or should be), but many readers will probably not see it down there. My next will be 126, - changed my mind. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 22:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Psalm 126 all done on my part. Yoninah (talk) 23:57, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * My topic today, but it's another day with little time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. I started expansion on August 30, but I don't think we can get this up to 5x expansion. I understand that you're busy, but I do feel bad that we lost out on the 5x expansions of Psalm 131 and Psalm 133. There are other psalms that are extremely short and that could easily be 5x expanded. Let's find a week when both of us aren't busy so we can do a 5x expansion that qualifies for DYK. (BTW, I'm going to be busy with Jewish holidays for the next month.) Yoninah (talk) 11:28, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree. If you look at my user page, a DYK was not planned, just to improve. Next 39, and that my lead to DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Two more to cover next, 134 (extremely short, DYK if we find enough) and 81, well developed but mostly bulleted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Munzinger-Archiv
Hi again. I wonder if you have access to the full article here. I'm researching an Israeli stage actor who became very popular in Germany. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no, Wehwalt, do you have access? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Biblical criticism
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Magnificat and Nunc dimittis in D
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

favor
Gerda, I am cross-eyed from looking at the same thing over and over, and am not sure I can even think straight about this anymore. I really need a nice quiet personal opinion on the 'responses' section of biblical criticism. I am not asking you to post anything, I just need to know what your reaction to the section is when you read it. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:37, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * understand, only today I don't know where to begin, Satureday update Bach cantatas, 1st of the month thank the cabal, translate the DYK, on top of the normal, - and many DYK nominations waiting because last week I served 3 composers and 2 who recently died, - and limited time. I would need some quiet time to look. - Are there other editors around the Bible? A project or more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, I understand. I just needed a quick glance, first impression kind of thing, but I suppose it doesn't really matter since I have no intention of doing anything about it anyway!  :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


 * You're back! YAY!  You're back.  (Is it Monday there already?)  I hope you had a truly wonderful weekend. And I wanted to tell you this request is now moot, it all worked out without your intervention too.  I decided after looking it all over that Jytdog was right on the Historical Jesus, (after he moved the discussion of the criteria there), and I went and moved all the rest--and am still eating crow. Yum! I missed you! See you later!  Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Monday already, but I'm tired after a load of Brahms singing, day of open monuments and a great opera premiere. I will be on and off for the week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)


 * That's perfectly understandable. Sounds like a good kind of tired. I was worried you might be mad that the new stuff you reviewed got moved out of the article.  I hope you understand about that.  I felt like an ongoing fight would sink the FAC and the only way I could see to resolve it was by doing what he said.   Please forgive me for any aggravation that might have caused. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:47, 11 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I try to not get mad ;) - There will be limited service all week, for pleasant reasons. - GA review for BWV 134a, anybody? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:33, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lobet den Herren alle, die ihn ehren
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

sorry
my bab....button slip--Moxy (talk) 11:56, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I knew that, no problem, - nice to come over. How are you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sybille Specht
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Waterhouse
Gerda, if you can find a decent source for this, you're welcome to reinclude it, but I couldn't. Heine is in the article already. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:25, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

And for a moment I thought Die Fliege was an actual fliege. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:27, 10 September 2018 (UTC)


 * How I miss nagualdesign ... - What kind of source do you need for what? That a composer finds a poem in an old edition and calls his work that way, rather than more modern spelling? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Assuming that belonged there in the first place (I'm making this article by combining stuff I found in two other articles, see talk if interested), I would prefer an RS that stated "Graham here puts music (or whatever) to Heines' poem Belsazar, which was based on the biblical story." That last bit is not really necessary, but would be a bonus. Since you seemed interested in Graham I wanted to give you a chance to "defend" him, but the article will be ok either way. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:46, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Graham was my first article (and I thought would be my last, but then there was this red link in it ...). How is this? You probably need something for Heine's poem rather than the composition based on it. I'll look. - The composition was performed at Gasteig Munich in 2008, - today they'd have an entry for each event, but back then, they didn't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2018 (UTC)


 * The poem: both an aricle in German as German Wikisource, - I'll translate it, eventually. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * That doesn't say it's Heine's Belsazar, does it? I'm being exclusionist here. But don't worry about citing Heine's poem, that's done. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Take that then. The composition was written in 2007 as a tribute to Heine, and more or less forgotten afterwards. Believe it or not ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Need your participation for article to be deleted - Cantus Musicus
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2018 September 11 - Cantus Musicus

Hi Gerda, I have been doing some improvements for articles related to classical halls, orchestra and choruses in Malaysia. All of them can, and have been improved such as Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra, Petronas Philharmonic Hall, Penang Philharmonic Orchestra, KLPac Orchestra and many more except for Cantus Musicus. I spent days trying to find sources for Cantus Musicus but couldn't find. Some of the links pointing to "blank pages" or pages without the contents mentioned. I was trying to improve the article until I realized that most of the contents have no sources, in which we can’t tell whether they are true. Furthermore, as a Malaysian who love Classical Music, opera and chorus; I know this chorus group is not noted but the contents are overrated. If you looked at the history (before I cleaned it up), the original contents are too promotional. Even after removing some of the overrated contents, the rest of the contents are without any evidences or sources that we can refer to. The choir group has no website but a Facebook only. In their Facebook, they pointed Wikipedia as their website. It looks like it is used for marketing purposes. Need your help with your judgement and recommendation for the article to be deleted. In my opinion, the article should be deleted. --Jay (talk) 09:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for thinking of me. I am travelling, so just doing what I have to - a late DYK for example. I think Voce has good points also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Biblical criticism
Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!! :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:36, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Milestone
Alles Gute zum 180.000.! Jmar67 (talk) 21:34, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - I wouldn't have noticed without you. Thank for copy-editing, - I need it a lot. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Das goldene Kreuz
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Überwasserkirche
Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Belated thanks
Gerda, thanks so much for the "Awesome Wikipedian" award last month. I thought I had already expressed my appreciation, but apparently not. Anyway, I'm very grateful for your kind words!  JGHowes   talk  02:40, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for coming over! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:15, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Wenn ich, o Schöpfer, deine Macht
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 91
That surprized me, 8 1/2 years later! Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 00:05, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * See above, we turn to it now, and it was pleasant to find a great specific image! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Wenn ich, o Schöpfer, deine Macht
Hi, I made a change to the article you created by changing a citation from a google book to a direct web page to what I believe you meant to cite? I can't be 100% certain because all your sources are in German and all I could do was look at what you cited and compare it to the words in the text and I couldn't locate any. If you continue to use foreign language sources on English wikipedia, please triple check that your link in the source actually links to what it is meant to. Sorry if I'm wrong about this at all, but alarms me quite a bit if this could be an occurence with other pages. Jeanjung212 (talk) 14:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a
The article Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 21:02, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

BWV 79
Nice article! Thank you. <b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b> (talk)  02:09, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Tony! What do think of BWV 60? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Neuenburg am Rhein
Hello Gerda--please tell me, because you know: how do you make one of those "article on German wiki" links, in this case for de:Andreas Bornemann? Thanks, also on behalf of, who apparently is a Breisgauer. Dr Aaij (talk) 02:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


 * done, Andreas Bornemann, - I bet you can do it yourself, at least in easy cases, when the name in German is the same as in English. In trickier case (name in German unlike name in English unlike name to be displayed), please consult ill. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Opening Prayer
Vanamonde (talk) 00:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 36
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Elise Barensfeld
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60
The article O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Stedil -- Stedil (talk) 00:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for a good review, Stedil! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for O clap your hands (Vaughan Williams)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Harry Kupfer's wife
How about this source: Tagesspiegel? Yoninah (talk) 19:37, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Anybody interested can add that. I am busy with a planned FAC for which I may be too late, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

The Flying Dutchman
I think it would be better to write the name of the opera in English, because everyone (even me!) recognizes it. But since Kupfer produced it in German, I left the German title with a translation. Changing it to all-German makes it very obscure IMO, and it no longer belongs in the quirky slot. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I will never understand why obviously people understand Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg and Götterdämmerung, but not Der fliegende Holländer. What do we have a link for? . It doesn't belong in the quirky slot, was a real scandal for some Wagner-believers, as the ref tells. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 26 September 2018 (UTC)


 * "Daß die um Sentas, um des Holländers und um ihre eigene Erlösung gebrachten Alt-Wagnerianer wieder kräftig buhten, versteht sich als inzwischen beinahe selbstverständlich. Aber wer wird heute schon noch erlöst? Von wem und wovon?" - Freely translated: the Old-Wagnerians, who had to miss Senta's, the Dutchman's and their own redemption, booed forcefully, naturally. But who gets redeemed today? By whom and of what? - The last lines of the review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Kloster Gnadenthal, Hesse
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Re:Precious anniversary
Thank you, it is always wonderful to receive a message from you. It is people like you who inspire people like me to continue in Wikipedia. The world needs more people like you. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:50, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, blushing ;) - and yes, please continue! I mean all who read this. I suffer from too many announcements of retirement. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Renneisen
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 133
Hi, I wish you would add some musical details to this psalm page. So far all we have are the popular Jewish songs. Yoninah (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I will look, tomorrow. It's already on my user page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Also Psalm 131, please. I'm not sure that I gave the correct Latin titles to either 131 or 133. Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I did what I could do easily to 133, but we would need about 1k more content to make it a 5* expansion for 27 September. Will look at 131, perhaps that's easier, and we could make a hook about the two concluding Bernstein's Chichester Psalms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ... only to find that it would be even harder ;) - Can we decently expand 133? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * yes we could --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Wiesbadener Knabenchor
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Harry Kupfer
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Daniel Behle
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Refs go in the article
Not the edit summary. Toddst1 (talk) 22:39, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, you are welcome to add refs to birth dates if you think they are needed. Looking at FA Claude Debussy, there's no ref. I' suggest, if you feel a ref is needed, put it in the article, not in the infobox, because some readers would never look there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:49, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Peer review/Thiruvilaiyadal/archive1
Hello Gerda, been a while. How are things going on with your good self? BTW, Kailash29792 has listed this article about a 1965 cult classic film in Tamil cinema for peer reviewing with the intention of preparing it for FAC and subsequently taking it to FA. As always, your constructive comments would be deeply appreciated. Also do have a look at his other FAC. Thank you. — Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:31, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice to hear from you! I watchedlisted it already. I also have one open, btw. Just learned that another of the great people I had the pleasure to see performing died, Montserrat Caballé. Saw her as Salome, and later read in a (leading) paper how sad it is that she never performed it on stage, only for recordings ;) - Otherwise fine, we just sang a great concert, reviewed nicely (look for Brahms above). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Great (The concert thing) and sorry, my condolences (for Caballé). —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 15:54, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 42
Hi, thanks for expanding the lead. Could you add some more subheads to the Musical settings section? Right now there's just Classical and Jewish. Maybe there should be Christian contemporary, or what? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:33, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, that part was there before us, and I haven't looked too closely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Yoninah, Psalm 110 is next for me, no DYK, just expand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 23:14, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You did great things rewriting, thank you! What do you think of Royal Psalms? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Re Royal Psalms, it needs work. I'm a little researched-out from Psalm 110, though. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I can imagine ;) - I just wondered if that little article would be a better link than the other section, which also seems unreferenced, and if "Royal Psalms" would be better than "royal psalms". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I haven't yet come across this term as all capitalized; it's lowercase along with all the other types. I would have suggested spinning out the whole Hermann Gunkel section in the Psalms article to its own article, but that section seems pretty important right where it is. Yoninah (talk) 09:30, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Based on that, I moved it to Royal psalms. What do you think of taking the list of them to the Psalms article, - and perhaps some examples for the other types to the other types? Perhaps we should link to the header "Types" there, instead of Royal psalms, for more context? All not right now ;) - How is Psalm 45 next, another of that bunch? + I plan to write another 42-related composition article, by Palestrina. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you asking me to expand the Hermann Gunkel section in the Psalms article, or to expand royal psalms and possible other spinoff articles about the various types? I was approved for Jstor access but have not yet received my access code; that will help with this research, I'm sure. On to Psalm 45... Yoninah (talk) 12:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I thought much simpler: just include the 10 or so psalms with links from Royal psalms to the section in Psalms, and find some good examples for each other type, just to make the whole Gunkel section a bit less abstract. I actually think we could make Royal psalms a redirect to psalms then; there are only few links, and the article doesn't offer much more. I am busy, or could do it myself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll try to expand the Gunkel section in Psalms. Yoninah (talk) 13:17, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, Yoninah! Next wish Psalm 46. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm so overtired from staying up late watching the World Series (7-hour time delay) that I haven't had the head for anything more serious than DYK promotions. Next week, hopefully. Yoninah (talk) 21:23, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry about perhaps asking too much ;) - Could you just do the Hebrew text? - 31 October is the day to shoot for. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mein Gott, wie schön ist deine Welt
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for La Belle et la Bête (opera)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Pour le piano
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Maroon (people)
Just to let you know that I share your concern with edits without sources, but I returned this article to the previous version because the by Anthrodn were actually correct. I later added a source to back up the claims, but also edited the lede to reflect the article's content better. Thanks for your work and dedication. Den... (talk) 03:20, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That's great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:15, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Emil Mattiesen
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN
Per WP:BURDEN, you may not restore unsourced content that has been challenged. If you want to keep content on Wikipedia, you must provide citations for it. These are suspected hoaxes, and I really don't appreciate having them restored in violation of policy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:20, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * NinjaRobotPirate, dear, when I see things removed, I don't necessarily go over the editing history, just think it would be polite to first require a citation. I have nothing to do with the insertation of these facts, just saw you removing. While I can't find anything about the French performance of Messa per Rossini (so you are probably right about a hoax), Chailly certainly conducted the work at La Scala, I can't prove however that it was the first time there, nor am I interested. Why remove that? You could reword it. Happy editing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Do whatever you want as long as you don't restore unsourced content. I'm only interested in removing suspected hoaxes, not in arguing about content. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * How about saying in your edit summary that you suspect a hoax? (Then I'd look closer, instead of just being annoyed.) I'll restore Chailly then, and you didn't explain why you removed that. - I often translate, first step, and content is unsourced until I find sources, second step, - I'd appreciate if you didn't remove such content. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Wolfgang Rennert
I fear when you check my translations. LouisAlain (talk) 19:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * You fear what? It's not your fault that the model had no inline citations ;) - and we need them for DYK. I found that he premiered 4 operas (at least), and conducted 21 productions in Franfurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * LouisAlain, please don't fear for Sophie Koch, but she needs more chronology and references, and composers' names. Will do if you don't, but not right now ;) - Heard her as Octavian on radio: very impressive! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Berceuse (Chopin)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Some animal companions for you!
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DYK that the Amadeus Quartet was wittily nicknamed the Wolf Gang? Narky Blert (talk) 05:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for the companions! They seem to silently listen to the Berceuse ;) - and thank you for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Mystery
You may want to look at this, and whether the Gospel Music Hall of Fame and the Southern Gospel Museum and Hall of Fame should be merged. Please reply here and ping me. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Zigzig20s, they look diferent enough to me, different years, different organizations, one with a house. Perhaps a hat note: not to be consused ...? + an infobox showing the different facts and urls more clearly? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * But they are both located in Dollywood, aren't they?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * For the latter, yes. The former shows no location at all, - making me think it's a virtual "hall", not a place. The only thing where Dollywood is mentioned is a category which can be wrong. There should be no category unsupported by the article. Now, IF the latter succeeded the former as an organization, they could be merged, but I don't see that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Our coverage of the business of entertainment is rather poor. We often have good articles about performers but not about who their bosses are...Zigzig20s (talk) 09:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I expanded the article. Enough for now I think.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That's good, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.
Thank you for your kind comments on my talk page. Nicholas Notabene 20:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. I looked who helped improving Berceuse, and smiled when I saw your signature also for Udo Zimmermann, a work in progress ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mein ganzes Herz erhebet dich
Alex Shih (talk) 03:32, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

British English
Hi. I'm wondering what makes you think that you know more about British English than I do? Deb (talk) 10:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That might be because User:SchroCat immediately deleted my comment with a rude edit summary. Deb (talk) 10:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There was nothing rude in my edit summary, particularly as you are not as right as you think you are. Your opening comment here is as arrogant as your comment on my talk page. (These: BBC, The Independent posted to the talk page show not everything is as definite as you may think you it is. Perhaps a pause before writing absolute statements may be called for next time?) - SchroCat (talk) 12:23, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Deb, you are mistaken, I didn't (think I know more than you). I saw you re-revert, and reverted that to follow WP:BRD: discuss, don't revert back even when you are sure to be right. It's a good approach, I think. After my impulsive revert without even thinking about wether you were right or not, because for BRD it really doesn't matter, I saw that you tried a sort of discussion (not on the article talk where it belongs but on the user's talk), and I reverted myself which you probably didn't see, because you were busy writing here. I don't care much about your evaluation of SchroCat's edit summary, and even a rude one wouldn't grant you a second revert. - Finally: I don't know anything about the spelling of the word, but our article tells me that it's humourist in British English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you point me to that, please, ? I see nothing about it in that article. Deb (talk) 11:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't blame Gerda—it's not there now :)  I applied policy. Take care all!  ——  SerialNumber  54129  11:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw this version, which was changed then, see just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I would point out to Gerda, though, that I only reverted once.Deb (talk) 11:51, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I wonder if you will forgive my poor English. "Re-revert" is short for "revert back when your addition is reverted", and I apologize if in a rush I said "revert twice" instead. Btw, I hate to be talked about in the third person on my talk, and hope for forgiveness of that, too. - sure to be right is rechthaberisch in German, which is no compliment. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * At least no accuations of nationalism today Gerda! ;)   ——  SerialNumber  54129  12:22, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Serial Number 54129, regarding your revert the reason you're not finding it on the Cambridge Dictionaries website is because the Cambridge Dictionary isn't a reference work, but a resource primarily aimed at ESL learners and primary schools which only lists a very limited subset of basic words and spellings. If you look at the relevant page of the OED—in general, the only RS when it comes to English language usage and etymology, despite its occasional errors and idiosyncrasies—you'll find attestations for "humourist" used in this context (definition 4) as a valid BrEng form going as far back to the 17th century, although "humorist" is also fine. (You can't claim you're not aware of the risks of assuming that being published by the CUP makes a source reliable...) &#8209; Iridescent 12:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think I mentioned the Cambridge Dictionary?! But on the article TP I do mention the same OED article as you, in which I note that without a "u" is given far more precedence that with. —— <span  Yes I remember that! :D [[User:Serial Number 54129| ——  SerialNumber  54129  12:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Re I don't think I mentioned the Cambridge Dictionary?, check your edit summary. &#8209; Iridescent 12:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah :) indeed. I meant to link to the same OED page! Buggery.  ——  SerialNumber  54129  13:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for historic perspective! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank goodness. That was much worse than the (also undeserved) infobox warrior. I haven't edit-warred ever, and urge everybody else to do the same ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. However, I think that "humourist", though it may occasionally be used by some people, is an archaism. It's an area where people often hypercorrect, for example, writing "humourous" instead of the correct "humorous". Deb (talk) 12:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * No idea why you are sorry, or do you mean the 3rd person? "Nationalist" wasn't you, and "infobox warrior" wasn't you. As soon as I wrote that some IP asked for an infobox, and next thing will be people thinking I am behind that ;) - No, I am not. I don't care if that guy has an infobox. I do care about that accessibility feature in articles I care about, though, to help readers who don't read English that well, are vision-impaired, or just look for a quick fact. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * @Deb, the distinction is less relevant now that humorism has gone out of fashion; historically in English (not British, as Scots always used the no-u form) English, "humorist" referred to a practitioner of the former and "humourist" referred to comic writers. I agree that Wikipedia ought to be using "humorist" as a form that's acceptable in all varieties of English, but "humourist" isn't a spelling like "honourary" that's actually incorrect, and we shouldn't be claiming so in Wikipedia's voice. &#8209; Iridescent 12:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I get what you're saying,, and I agree. Deb (talk) 14:05, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry for taking over your page, sorry for edit warring, and of course sorry about any problems you've had with other people in the past! :-) I've always had a high regard for you and did not mean to start an argument with you. Deb (talk) 14:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't accept you being sorry for any problems I had with other people ;) - nor for "taking over" my page, you didn't, I like discussions! I accept the other, with thanks. I am quite used to being blamed for whatever goes wrong with infoxes, and don't care. Waste of time. I noticed a comment in that respect, thanks . --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Deb, welcome to the cabal of the outcasts by what you do ;) - Teach me more English when needed, please. - #2 was banned six years ago, a sad loss for the project. He made the design for "Precious", and is quoted in my edit summary. Good that we have you! Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Schloss Weilburg
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the trouble to translate and source this article, Gerda Arendt! It's a lovely addition to the encyclopedia. 9 188 views, BTW :). I'm glad you like my tendency to overload visual articles with images, but do feel free to take them out where you don't. And thank you for your patience. HLHJ (talk) 04:15, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Sophie Getzowa
I am looking for a source and hope that you may have access to it (or perhaps one of your page stalkers does). this book may have an actual biography of Getzova. She was an important early physician and pathologist with ties to both Chaim Weizmann and Albert Einstein. Neither the Hebrew, Polish, nor Russian articles give a complete biography, and none use this source. But, even if I had access to it, which I don't, I would not be able to read das Deutsch. If you click through on the worldcat entry, there are numerous locations with the book in Germany and Switzerland, but I cannot find a web version. Any chance you could find it? I have had success over the last two months with people locating a book and photographing the chapters on women whose biographies have been obscured for lack of easy access. SusunW (talk) 16:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no library is close to where I live. I found the TOC, and wonder if the University of Basel could help you to a copy of the chapter (198-211)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That's more information than I had. Let me play with that. Thanks! SusunW (talk) 16:36, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The book is used as a ref in German for de:Clara Winnicki, written by de:Benutzerin:Angelika Koch who mentions history of women, especially education on her user page. Ask her, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * kindle --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You rock! SusunW (talk) 16:54, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * one more ;) - a footnote here (#19 on p. 118) says that she was employed in May 1905 as First Assistant (and first woman in such a position) of Prof. Hans Strasser at the Anatomic Institute in Bern. - Off to expanding a woman, recipient of a notable prize and full of bare urls, no infobox until yesterday ;) Her husband's article (they got the prize together) is much better, a shame really. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Fingers crossed, but I think I am making progress. I cannot access the e-book from Mexico, so I wrote to Winnicki, but got no response . I sent a request to the EO of the Swiss Wikiproject. She has requested copies of the pages for me, so hopefully we will get a positive response. Thanks for pointing me down the road ;) SusunW (talk) 14:30, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OMG! The author of the book sent me the material! Yippee! SusunW (talk) 17:26, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Alle Achtung
You are an amazingly productive Wikipedian! Jmar67 (talk) 18:24, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I try to do the little short articles, one per day, and then people die, a massively tagged article needs clean-up, a tricentenary needs a FA, - no end ;) - thank you for constructively following and ceaning up after me, seeing the little typos that other reviewers overlooked! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:42, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Jmar67, you could look at Schloss Ludwigsburg, below, if you haven't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Jmar's been my chief of staff on that article. He's done a stupendous job killing little errors I totally missed during the GAN process with Farang. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  10:24, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Alle Achtung! - I could have guessed without looking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I had been intending to do that but was waiting for recent editing to subside. Jmar67 (talk) 12:28, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Ludwigsburg Palace...again
I hate to bother you about this palace again, but you had previously expressed an interest in commenting on the article for FAC. Unfortunately, the FAC closed before then so I thought I might try being a bit more insistent this time. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  01:07, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I am interesting, failing on first try is no problem (had the same), time is my problem, and it's long. But I will look, promised, just don't know when. Will probably ask about the title (because I just learned that palace isn't truely equivalent to schloss, meaning a building rather than the complex around it), and the collapsing of the ibox ;) - I have a FAC open which is much shorter, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Schloss causes me some headache because its meaning isn't exact in English (the closest equivalent I can determine thus far is "mansion," but that is by no means a one-size-fits-all, given some certain schlösser. I checked BWV 134a for DYK and found it already had one in 2010; I already commented and came to support it in its FAC. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  09:12, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * My memory is not as I would want it to be, how could I forget your support? - We have schloss, for those who don't know, and I think we can go by original name. Schloss Weilburg was quite a DYK success, and nobody complained about its name. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:23, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with this issue, but "palace" is fine with me. I would have translated it that way. Jmar67 (talk) 12:39, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Translate is fine, I just wonder about article title Schloss Ludwigsburg, - it has some German flavour from the start ;) - I can't tell if Ludwigsburg Palace is really commonly used, like Frankfurt Cathedral which is plain wrong (it's no cathedral) but common. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Searching on Google and Google Books reveals "Ludwigsburg Palace" as the English common name and either "Residenzschloss Ludwigsburg" or simply "Schloss Ludwigsburg" as the German common name. My principle sources, the State Agency for Palaces and Gardens website (in Engish; note that I used the German version of their site because their English one is very naked) and book on the palace's interiors (Wenger 2004, Ludwigsburg Palace: The Interior), use "Ludwigsburg Residential Palace" and "Ludwigsburg Palace" respectively. Google as well as my physical Books also use "Ludwigsburg Palace". – ♠Vami _IV†♠  13:02, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

The Baroque
Part one of three of a TV series: link, well worth watching. It's almost entirely about the visual arts, but it made me wonder whether music like this was outrageous and shocking in a culture accustomed only to sacred polyphony and to peasant songs. I suspect that it was. Young people of today, eh? Narky Blert (talk) 02:07, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Amazing music, would love to sing it. I think it wasn't shocking in Italy, open for the thoughts of the Renaissance. It so happens that the image of a Renaissance palace is still on top ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Perhaps also Venice in particular. That city had been founded by people who had escaped barbarian invaders by hiding among the swamps and lagoons. Although soundly Catholic in belief, they were for a long time very dismissive of the Bishop of Rome's meddling in temporal affairs, and that may have extended to diktats about permissible musical styles also.
 * (Some years ago, I got Monteverdi's "Toccata" played as a request on BBC 6 Music :).)
 * WP:OR of the Day. Why did Da Ponte set Così fan tutte in Naples specifically? I think it was because the Neapolitan army was notoriously the most useless in Europe, and that audiences of the time would have got the joke about the two boys being soldiers. I suspect that there's another joke in the fact that the two girls were from Ferrara, but if so I've never deciphered it; although it could be the reputation of that city for the intrigues of the d'Este and Borgia families.
 * Going back to the Renaissance, but still in Ferrara, have you ever come across Leonora d'Este? The Guardian reference is scholarly, and the music ravishing. Narky Blert (talk) 09:11, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Valentin Peter Feuerstein
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * mmh is there a OCTS release for photographic pictures of the windows?? Sorry to remark this...--Symposiarch (talk) 18:05, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't understand the question. Public domain is what I see. Rabanus Flavus? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I understand the question... --Rabanus Flavus (talk) 19:10, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Theater Bremen
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 134
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Bockenheimer Depot
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Benedicite (Carter)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Bedford Village HD
Yeah, NYSOPRHP migrated its main NRHP application data base to a different platform (can't remember what it's called now) which no longer uses static links. In the meantime the old data base that did, what was linked to, is still in use but it seems like they're letting it deprecate.

You may want to see if the NPS Focus data base has it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:54, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, that helps! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Tri sestry (opera)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Responsories (Reger)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Konin Lakes
Hi, Gerda. Do you speak Polish? I have just created and am going to expand the article Konin Lakes because of the interesting flora and fauna in the lakes. All the individual lakes have red links at the moment, because the English language Wikipedia does not have articles on them, but I think it is possible to link them to the Polish language articles. Can you help? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:04, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * No, sorry, but perhaps Poeticbent can help. I just came across a Polish singer, btw, Stefan Belina-Skupiewski. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Well in the end I had some fun with Google Translate, and some English language sources I found, and made myself some stub articles for the individual lakes, so I didn't need a Polish speaker to help. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Isn't it amazing, the things we learn when looking for sources? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Zur Geschichte der Religion und Philosophie in Deutschland
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for O clap your hands (Rutter)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Jenhawk777
Gerda, I so appreciate you reaching out to me; your kindness touches me. You know, I think, that I have had kind of a rocky time on Wikipedia. I am a Christian, and while I try hard to be balanced and fair by including all views equally, I sometimes fail, and often times get virulent opposition--whether I fail or not. I have taken that as part of the program here, and I have tried to learn to incorporate what others have said in every way possible. I focused on getting better--being better--working it through as much as I could--and then I tried some more. But recently I ran into virulence involving misogyny that was so apparent and so blatant it just blew me away. The argument was over how women were treated in the past and my--validly sourced--work on two different articles. His response was to jump on me for being Christian even though Christianity was nowhere in the subject matter. Then in the same week, another guy who I thought was my friend, told me he was cutting me off for a week as discipline for not obeying him by mentioning a subject he didn't want to talk about. By what right do these guys think they should get to say what I do? What makes them think they get to say what's on Wikipedia, and I should toe their line? That they have the right to get ugly-mad if I disagree and don't just obey? I got so frustrated I just decided I'd had enough. I could take one kind of discrimination, but two kinds at once was more than I could deal with.

I really loved the researching and writing on Wikipedia, and there are some wonderful people--like you--here, but overall and on balance, it's my view this is not a good environment to try and work in. I am gone for good as things stand right now. I only saw your comment because I was looking up something and haven't taken down my profile page yet, and because it was you, I wanted to explain. You make Wikipedia better, but there just aren't enough of you Gerda. Thank you for your kindness and support. I will miss you and Grabergs. I won't miss all the grief. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Jenhawk777 This sounds disturbing. Has this happened on WP? a/ please do not be hounded off the project. b/ I would strongly suggest you take this up at ANI or a similar board for wider community scrutiny. We cannot be losing female members, of any faith, or none, for apparent harassment, as from a quick scan of your comments to Gerda, this seems to fall under. Simon Adler (talk) 03:12, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for caring yes of course it was on Wp, within the last few weeks, as I have only been gone a week or so, and while I agree with you in principle, I am just not up to the fight required for ANI. When it comes down to it, it is not my way to intentionally cause trouble for others. It's better if I just quietly go away. I'm sorry. It really breaks my heart. I guess I'm not as tough as I thought I was. There's just too much meanness here on Wp for me to stay. Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:34, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Jen, nice to hear from you, whatever you have to say!! Much better than the friend who left with a smile six years and a day ago, and I never heard another word, and miss him daily. (I adopted the design of the last message for Precious, DYK?) Look, we get treated unfairly, and then what do we do? Leave? I stubbornly stay ;) - Do me a favour: leave your profile, for those who read your articles and wonder who wrote them. On top, it would be nice to watch them. - Please don't disappear forever, because I am lazy. I would have to translate one of your articles to German in my missing routine. Spare me that please ;) - I am on vacation, and would not have been in today, but the planned hiking trail was hit by a landslide, thank goodness at night, last night, nobody injured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank goodness for that! A landslide--how frightening! It is truly amazing no one was hurt!
 * I am leaving my profile up for now because I am accessing Wp for info just like everyone else in the world and it makes it easier for me. I think the articles I worked on tended to be more controversial than most, and that contributed to the issues for me here. I will do my best to keep in touch with you--without getting sucked back in to Wp. Please take good care of yourself.  You matter here. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:27, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Qerim Sadiku
Gerda, hope all is well and you are happy and healthy! Havn't been around in wiki for the last two month but just came back with a potential DYK, Qerim Sadiku, another Albanian saint. In dewiki they did a better job than me and have plenty of material. That material, I feel, might get us to a common DYK. Would you be able to translate the remainder from German and send it to DYK? I'll help with anything necessary meanwhile. Best! --1l2l3k (talk) 13:28, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * On vacation, so fine and healthy, but behind with projects. I hope it has a few days time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Praeludium (Waterhouse)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

A PR of mine
Gerda, do you work on films in Wikipedia by any chance? If so, Kailash29792 and I have listed this article about a 1959 cult classic film in Tamil cinema for peer reviewing with the intention of preparing it for FAC and subsequently taking it to FA. Your constructive comments would be deeply appreciated. Thank you. — Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 05:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * on vacation, so doing only urgent things, like writing on a film tomorrow ;) - later perhaps --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Do let me know when you post your comments.  —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 07:59, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Staatstheater am Gärtnerplatz
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jobst Oetzmann
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 133
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You didn't have to give me credit for it, but I appreciate it, Gerda! Drmies (talk) 01:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Only I didn't, Yoninah did, but I support that ;) - the psalm is all about brotherly love, br'erly love, sisterly love. Lisen to that movement, y'll. Chichester Psalms: I am improving the article in memory of an anniversary, and to remember Bernstein in his centenary year, DYK? ... and also Opening Prayer, a blessing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Marienstatt Abbey
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Roman Twardy
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Der Schuhu und die fliegende Prinzessin
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

HELP!
Dear Gerda Arendt, I need your help because I can not understand what I have to do to prevent the deletion of a photo I've uploaded File:Amar-Hindemith Quartet (1925).jpg

They write: "This media file is missing essential source information. The author and source of the file must be given, so that others can verify the copyright status. Edit the file description page to add source information. Unless this issue is resolved, the file will be deleted seven days after this tag was added (3 November 2018). Usage of this tag: For categorisation purposes, always use Di-no source. If you didn't use an automated tool, notify the uploader manually."

I've just started to edit the Wikipedia pages and I can not understand what I should do. Could you help me please? (HindemithPerformsHindemith (talk) 18:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC))


 * HindemithPerformsHindemith, you've claimed that the photograph is your own work; however, it is clearly not your own work as it comes from this Getty Images set. Wikipedia can't accept copyrighted materials without the permission of the copyright holder. Consequently, you're being asked to demonstrate that you own the copyright or are in a position to release it for commercial re-use; if not, we'll need to delete the photograph as we can't host material that isn't either cleared for unrestricted commercial re-use, or essential to Wikipedia under fair use principles. If you know who the photographer was, and can show that they died more than 70 years ago, then we can host the image (although we still need to know who the photographer was so we can credit them). If the photographer was genuinely never recorded—e.g. it was taken by a staff photographer for a newspaper and when it was published it was uncredited or credited only to the newspaper—then it is out of copyright in Germany as pre-1947 anonymous works in Germany are automatically in the public domain, but in that case you need to demonstrate that it's genuinely impossible to know who the photographer was. &#8209; Iridescent 18:14, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I apologize, I was not aware of the presence of this photo on this website. I had bought it a few years ago from a collector on ebay. What should I do now in your opinion? (HindemithPerformsHindemith (talk) 18:40, 9 November 2018 (UTC))


 * I am happy that Iridescent could help because images keep being a secret for me unless I took them myself which I often do (2 examples pictured above). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


 * HindemithPerformsHindemith, it really depends on whether you can identify the photographer, as the copyright to photographs always belongs either to the person who took the photograph or to their employer. (There are some limited exceptions to this in Germany regarding copyrights that were owned by prominent Nazis and which passed directly to Allied governments rather than to the FRG or DDR and were later released into the public domain by the US or UK government, but for a 1925 photo those are unlikely to apply.) If it's possible to identify who the photographer was, then copyright will expire 70 years after their death. If it's genuinely impossible to know who took the photograph, then the copyright will have expired.
 * For English (but not German) Wikipedia, even if a photograph is still in copyright you can upload it here as non-free content provided it significantly adds to the understanding of an article, and there's no free alternative available. The rules about this are strict, and a photograph uploaded under this exemption needs to satisfy all of the criteria here. &#8209; Iridescent 10:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * For English (but not German) Wikipedia, even if a photograph is still in copyright you can upload it here as non-free content provided it significantly adds to the understanding of an article, and there's no free alternative available. The rules about this are strict, and a photograph uploaded under this exemption needs to satisfy all of the criteria here. &#8209; Iridescent 10:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Luther Monument (Worms)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Suzanne Balguerie
DYK about her? LouisAlain (talk) 23:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, but, - long, and you know they want citations at the end of each paragraph, minimum. We have a few days, or I'd say no ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:29, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


 * LouisAlain, sorry, we missed it. Any chance to something related to her and mention her in the hook? - I don't know why I thought created 9 Nov, probably confused her with the Messiaen song cycle. Hope I won't miss that also ;) - Take the rose from above, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:52, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Aus dem Leben eines Taugenichts
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Judge (writer)
There has been a new hook proposal, and a number of edits to the article, which may or may not have addressed the concerns in your review. When you get a chance, please return and let the remaining creator know where things stand. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll look later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 45
Hi, I finally finished this one. It doesn't have anything about musical settings yet ... Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Vacation backlog ;) - I just finished the longest FAC review I remember, and I did Wagner, in 2013 ;) - Psalm 102 please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Bedford Village Historic District
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Million Awards
Guten Tag Gerda.

I see that you won a Million Award for bringing Franz Kafka to FA. How is it judged? Let's say that I made article ABC featured. If it receives one million pageviews three months after I make it FA, do I still receive the Million Award, or something else?

Thank you, Rebestalic <sup style="color:#228b22;font-family:Calibri">[dubious—discuss]  03:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Rebestalic, sorry, I don't know, I am only a recipient, better ask on the talk page. Back then, it was given by sadly missed Khazar. I has nothing to with being, ad I think was given before it became featured, simply by readership and interest in a topic. - Did you know that I woke up today thinking of Kafka, more precisely that I find our arbitration kafkaesque? But, all who read this, ask them questions and go vote when its up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Next question
Hello again Gerda.

What does "singen singen singen singen singen singen" mean?

Yes, I know it translates to "singing singing singing signing singing singing", but what was your motive?

Danke, Rebestalic <sup style="color:#228b22;font-family:Calibri">[dubious—discuss]  03:15, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Follow the links. - "singen, singen" is a quotation from the last movement of the Historia der Geburt Christi, and you quoted slightly wrong ;) - Please, combine your questions, - I try to archive at 50, and am lazy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Metropolitan Opera
Hi,

Just querying your revert. matinée is a link to a disambiguation page, which looks to be deliberate as it explains what a matinée is. Now a deliberate link to a disambiguation page must be made using the Matinée (disambiguation) as it shows a deliberate link. This then removes it from the list of pages requiring disambiguation. It is not really an option to avoid a redirect perse and is covered at Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Blethering  Scot  20:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining, but the socalled disambiguation page is no more than a redirect to the former. Long live formality, - too much for my little brain ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I've withdrawn
There are enough good candidates and I'd like to see Joe Roe (who is away on working on an archaeology site right now, hence his late entry) get in. We need new blood and active editors on the Committee. Doug Weller talk 09:12, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * That is very generous of you, thank you for letting me know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Zu den heiligen Engeln


The article Zu den heiligen Engeln has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "I can find no evidence that this is a notable church. All info I can find online seem to point to a run-of-the-mill church, which gets routine coverage, but nothing else. Not noted for its architecture as far as I can tell, not a notable history, just a church."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Fram (talk) 13:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fram, I translated, then left for real life. In list of composers by name, a composer is notable when he or she has an article in a different Wikipedia. I have no time to search for additional sources today. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You have seven days in which to find sources and apply them :)  incidentally, I didn't know about the "other wiki" thing for lists.  ——  SerialNumber  54129  14:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Seven days for an article about the God's tent look ugly and suspicious? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * God's tent? ——  SerialNumber  54129  14:46, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Tabernacle, or the tent of God with men, such as St. Matthew Cathedral, São Mateus --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, of course. Servus servorum dei. ——  SerialNumber  54129  17:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * "In list of composers by name, an composer is notable when he or she has an article in a different Wikipedia." That may be sufficient to be included in a list, but doesn't mean that they are notable enough for a standalone article. Notability is not determined by the inclusion rules of other Wikipedia language versions, who each independently decide what they deem acceptable and what not. Fram (talk) 14:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your kindness
Hi Gerda, many thanks for your kind remembering my last ten years in Wikipedia (or even more) as a contributor. Highly appreicated, and I'm much obliged for the barnstar.  Wim van Dorst  (talk)  18:53, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Wim, thank you for coming over. Sorry that I didn't meet you sooner. For years I wanted to see the scout camp as TFA, but people said it might not meet today's more rigid requirements. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Requiem (Saint-Saëns)
Alex Shih (talk) 05:58, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Udo Zimmermann
Vanamonde (talk) 04:38, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Zu den heiligen Engeln for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Zu den heiligen Engeln is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Zu den heiligen Engeln until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Fram (talk) 07:36, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Dixit Dominus (Vivaldi)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message
Thank you for telling me who is eligible, then what it is and what's going on (as if I didn't know) ;) - I reviewed the candidates, and several of them supplied the answer I wanted to hear: yes, I can be convinced by arguments to decline a case that the majority already accepted. Don't miss reading the legacy of my friend on top of the answers list. Still in shock. Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Looking forward

 * Let me take your mind off this Gerda, I was just reviewing my own talk page archives when I discovered that not two weeks ago, our much missed Comrade Boris congratulated me on getting Carol Kaye to GA and suggested I have another go at writing about a female bass player. Yolanda Charles doesn't appear to even have her own article right now. Hmm, time to do the whistle.... *phweeeeep* <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:15, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Good take, thank you for trying, Ritchie! I'm kind of "booked" for the year, but will think about it. I find it a bit chilling that our much missed comrade's were a reply to me, and I contemplate to include some of it in my edit notice. "We are all grown ups here. Well, some are grown ups who act like children, but that's another matter."- what do you think? DYK that he was the first to receive Precious in br'erly style? - I haven't changed my edit notice in years.  - Completely different request: could you - or someone watching - do the GA review of BWV 214, soon? (Hoping for DYK on 8 December, day of the first performance and day we'll sing the music with the better-known words.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Weilburg
Hi Gerda, as ordered, the Staatliche Verwaltung der Gaerten und SChloesser Hessen now has an English version with direct translation. Thanks for the eduction on interlanguage links. Viele Gruesse aus Texas! Ernst Schnell (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:18, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Next education: best use "new section" on top, which automatically puts a message at the bottom, where it belongs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tönet, ihr Pauken! Erschallet, Trompeten! BWV 214
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tönet, ihr Pauken! Erschallet, Trompeten! BWV 214 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cecilia, vergine romana
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Kudos for your 1117th DYK nomination! and 5th rank in this field. Without dedicated users like you Wiki wouldn't be the same. I don't do much but bring in raw material. What is your secret to find refs I'm not even able to notice? LouisAlain (talk) 09:47, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Google with specific search, and good luck. Often, when I look for something specific, I find something else specific, like this Osservatore Romano thing. - Once we are together, two more wishes just came up: Le Chant des chemins de fer, fr:Tristia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:20, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: even before: Eugène de Mirecourt --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 58
Our new Septuagint friend has made a bit of a mess on a page that needed help anyway. Should we work on this now? Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Fine, but I have also two articles in prep for GA, + the normal DYK problems. Will I ever get to the peer reviewers some asked me about? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ... and Psalm 51 then, eventually --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * So far Psalm 58 has been expanded from 1211 char to 2493, still 3562 char short of a 5x expansion. Oh well. When you can add Musical settings to it, please do. Yoninah (talk) 23:47, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't think of DYK for that one, just consistency. There's little in the public choral scores and nothing (a first) in IMSLP. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm done with Psalm 51. Yoninah (talk) 21:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - I postponed my part of 58 to 3 December, and 51 will be later, another one not for DYK. - Will travel for 2 days. - We rehearse ban complaining ("verbannet die Klage"), which is not always easy to do. - Can you please watch Lula, - I just removed vandalism. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Günther Morbach
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Michael Robinson (rabbi)
Would you like me to nominate this for DYK now? Yoninah (talk) 13:17, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Go ahead ;) - Thank you for all your additions! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ... and for the great nomination! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ignaz Kirchner
— Maile (talk) 00:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hello Gerda. Thank you very much for your encouraging message re. Electorate of Saxony. I really appreciate it. Now if you have time, would you mind looking on my talk page where I have put out a question for Administrators about the confusion between "Margravate" and to me, the odd use of "Margraviate", when referring to states of the Holy Roman Empire in English? If this is not important for you, then I understand. Best wishes, --Po Mieczu (talk) 01:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Good question, and good to see that you were helped. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lula Mysz-Gmeiner
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Renate Behle
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive editor - Pianoplayer98 & See Siang Wong page
Hi Gerda: it's been a while, hope things are well. I unfortunately need your help again on a disruptive editor, Pianoplayer98, who keeps reverting the page of See Siang Wong to an inappropriate PR-like tone. It is quite clear that Pianoplayer98 = See Siang Wong. If you can keep a watch on disruptive reversions of the page (give it a few days or so), that would be nice (if an inconvenience to you, I realise). I'm happy to return the favour for you at some point if so needed. Thanks, DJRafe (talk) 14:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Guten Abend Gerda: Wir kennen uns leider (noch) nicht, aber ich möchte betonen, dass ich es äusserst fragwürdig finde, was der "DJRafe" alles macht. Sein Ton und Verhalten ist respektlos. Er behauptet viele Sachen und nimmt an, dass ich der Künstler bin. Nein, ich bin es nicht, sondern nur jemand, der sich Zeit nimmt, über eine spezifische Person zu schreiben und zu berichten. Ich kenne SSW von einigen Konzerten und Aufnahmen. Mein Eintrag war bereits viele Jahre alt und war immer in Ordnung und wurde von verschiedenen Personen leicht überarbeitet. Der englische Artikel sollte ausgeglichen sein, wie beim deutschen auf Wikipedia. Das ist alles. Es ist befremdend, dass so ein Eintrag, der viele Jahren ohne Probleme existiert hat, plötzlich nach Lust und Laune von DJRafe einfach mit 2/3 des Artikels gestrichen wurde, obwohl es Referenzen hatte und auch keine PR-Sprache war. Darf ich Dich freundlichst bitten, dies zu prüfen und rückgängig zu machen oder zumindest zu ergänzen mit den relevanten Sachen? Diese könnte ich Dir auch schicken. Dass ein Album Nr. 1 in den UK Charts war oder dass Wong mit verschiendenen Dirigenten aufgetreten ist, was soll daran PR-Sprache sein? Oder dass er Juror war an verschiedenen Wettbewerben? Dann kann auch DJrafe seine Beiträge streichen. Ich weiss nicht wer DJRafe ist, aber jedenfalls wirkt sein Handeln subjektiv, oder er hat etwas gegen den Künstler persönlich? Pianoplayer98 (talk) 22:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Please, could you write a short version in English, to be transparent. English and German are completely different, both style and rules/guidelines. - I have little time for this, - could you two please discuss it step by step? (Or wait until next week.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks Gerda for your quick reply. You mean next week you will have time for this? That would be appreciated. Thanks for your help. Danke! --Pianoplayer98 (talk) 23:08, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


 * (We had an edit conflict, I wrote at the same time.) Now that I looked: "famous" is a no-no word, lists of halls where someone performed are pretty boring if not connected to people and music (we call them "laundry lists"), and lists of conductors are not better, and "Masterchef" is hilarious. Sorry, I prefer DJRafe's version. - Compare other pianists' pages, - I wrote Katharina Sellheim. I recommend that you suggest on the article talk what you think should be added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: Pianoplayer98, the titles in the recordings section should not be bold, instead, more links to the pieces please. (use the search function.) Consider dropping recordings such as "Piano Movie Lounge 2" altogether. The whole section needs references which should be easy for recordings. I changed the title in the table, because I don't see any "Description". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tönet, ihr Pauken! Erschallet, Trompeten! BWV 214
The article Tönet, ihr Pauken! Erschallet, Trompeten! BWV 214 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tönet, ihr Pauken! Erschallet, Trompeten! BWV 214 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 22:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hans-Joachim Schulze
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Bauer (bass)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Complete explanation
I was referred to this page to reach a so-called "consensus" with the two users in question, so please accept my apologies if I did something wrong since my message wasn't of harmful intentions.

The issue is about two users wanting to delete edited facts which is: - 1. Its original name NOT consisting of the suffix Bosanska, which means that it never was renamed - 2. The Austro-Hungarian rule adding Bosnian suffixes to the towns in the region where Kozarska Dubica lies - 3. it being a mainly Serb-inhabited territory (I understand if this is of no irrelevance so don't mind that one but deleting that sentence can give one a natural assumption of the motive) - 4. It not being considered a part of a region under the name of "Bosnia" prior to the 455-year-long foreign/occupational formations during last millennium (original, medieval Bosnia and historical documents like De Administrando Imperio, which describes the area of Bosnia in the 10th century (or with other words before the first Bosnian rule) confirms this) - 5. It not being a part of a state under the name of Bosnia before the Dayton Accords (de facto), while its jure status can be argued from 1992 with multiple recognitions of RBiH which is why I added that Bulgaria was the first to recognize it as such in 1992 (natural conclusion of this is possible because of it not being under anything named "Bosnia" before Ottoman conquest and from that event to 1995, an independent rule consisting the name of Bosnia did not exist).

May I add that number 4 and 5 is of very big relevance since it's about the region which Kozarska Dubica is considered a part of by many today, while the suffix in question originates from that particular region. The previous, or the now current, edit which was last modified by AirWolf on 27 of October 2018 gave the text a tone which would make one think that some kind of crime was committed by removing these suffixes, with use of words like purging out. Nobody reacted to this for God Knows How Long before I did, which clearly explains the bias that some people have here. The edits made by me were added to give the reader a perspective of why these suffixes were removed. Some of the perspectives given were that the suffixes came along with Austro-Hungarian occupational forces that ruled in the area. And since many of the towns in question (by the Una river first and foremost) aren't considered as a historical (nor current) part of Bosnia by many of those who live there, it gave the ruling institutions further reasons to remove them. And, the obvious reasons for the supporters of the suffix wanting to keep it is not because it says that it's a part of Bosnia and Herzegovina as a state, but Bosnia as a region since the name of the town isn't "Bosnian-Herzegovinian Dubica". With that said, the reason for the suffix removal being institutions not recognizing it being a part of Bosnia and Herzegovina would be nonsense.

I'll add different different sources since this is a talk message and not a Wikipedia article, from Wikipedia and from other pages and documents. And yes, I'm new at Wikipedia so please don't take my lack of technical knowledge (with quotations and such) so serious like any other everything irrelevant thing that Wikipedia users are widely famous for taking to heart/overreacting to. And no, this is not an "ad hominem attack" according to anyone's defintion since this statement is not directed towards a specific individual.

So to add to all of this, the question is now: If all of this is true, what's wrong with it? Let's reach that consensus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filipjako (talk • contribs) 23:47, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Filipjako, complete explanation of what? - I'm just waking up and see a load of sources. You don't tell me what this is about. Only from the signature (which you didn't add) I can deduct that we speak about you trying to change something and get reverted. - You seem to be new, and I am sorry that the beginning is difficult, for all, but especially in politically difficult areas. I don't want to get into the conflict, and I have no time for the sources, having not enough time for my own topics. So, general advice if you want to be respected: change one small thing at a time, and when it get's reverted, don't revert back but discuss the small thing on the talk page, in civil conversation, and factually. (WP:BRD, if you are better helped by a guideline, short for bold - reverted - discuss.) At that article: start over from the beginning, and have patience. Wikipedia has a strong tendency for the status quo, and sometimes it takes years to convince others that a change is the right thing to do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht article has been scheduled as today's featured article for January 1, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/January 1, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  15:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sophie Koch
Alex Shih (talk) 00:04, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Bedford Presbyterian Church (New York)
Vanamonde (talk) 12:01, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Toshio Hosokawa
Mifter (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Tönet, ihr Pauken! Erschallet, Trompeten! BWV 214
Mifter (talk) 12:01, 8 December 2018 (UTC) Thank you, that's the sound of today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, have been listening to versions it for last hour on u tube. Painting is lovely also...such big eyes, looks like a rabbit in the headlights, as if the portraitist had caught her unawares until the end. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 18:52, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ceoil, you have a great way to say such things! Back from I-III, and on some 3/8 cloud. First violin was a revelation, she could play the softest, and the audience was mesmerized. Evangelist also excellent, new to me. The drummer (Pauker) who has to enter alone said it was his 130th Christmas Oratorio, and every time his hearbeat is high. The place is also great, more than 30 paintings for you to comment ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Ohhhh thanks, yes there is a lot there :) We have a lot in common taste-wise Gerda, which is prob why we have stayed friends through thick and thin. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Blushing . I'll have to take new pics, - it's mich brighter after restoration. Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ps: I like your new userpage, - a bit like my playlist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ... and do you think you could copyedit the church, with GA in mind, Ceoil? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan to me. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 12:20, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for editing the church in Bedford, but I meant Idstein ;) - Bedford: the dates are in the following para. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Aw jeez, and I as wondering; Bedford seemed awfully light for GA. Doh! <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 13:31, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree ;) - singing in Idstein today, soon, last time Bedford was in 2003, but unforgettable how we sang Dona nobis pacem, the day before the Iraq war was decided. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Phantasy Quartet
Alex Shih (talk) 12:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Kind thoughts
Thank you, Gerda. You are very kind. Johnlp (talk) 09:18, 11 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for coming over. I try, - we have some legacy to live up to. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Psalm 24
Hi, I finished my expansion of this page. When you nominate it for DYK (no later than December 14), you can use my QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Edgecliff (Winnetka, Illinois). Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:03, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, will do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Rennert
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Vision of Lear
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Qerim Sadiku
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Results
Hi Gerda, do you know where we can see the results of the last Arb election? <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme ✍🏻📧 15:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, at the bottom of my no-guide, it's a link, search for - surprise - "results". More important is the first link, to the ultimate guide to arbitration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme ✍🏻📧 19:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Unclear, possibly de:en translation
Hello, Gerda A.! I'm a bit astonished by the absence of Babel boxes on your User page; a deliberate omission? My question's detailed at Talk:Die Einsamkeit der Krokodile. Since I've noticed you about, I didn't search through Page history to locate the editor who wrote the sentence in question - who, under the circumstances, is unlikely to provide the required clarifications. Hoping this will be the proverbial stroll in the park for you. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 20:41, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have only one userbox but an infobox, no? - Thanks for noticing, - the elegant German wording is "Der streng erzogene Schlachtersohn Günther" which would literally be "The strictly-raised butcher-son Günther ...", - I tried to improve, please check. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Wasn't suggesting an infobox but rather am curious to know which languages you use and at which levels - working between languages being a frequent WP activity for me. Having here before me the source German with your literal rendering, I can see it'd be worth my taking the time and making the effort to look at the DE WP page in a similar future situation. Even though now I rarely encounter German text unless I deliberately seek it out, what I've gathered over the years (especially working at the Ghetto Fighters' House archives and museum) plus similarities with English and my meager knowledge of Yiddish, serves me rather well. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 16:36, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Deborahjay, thank you for more flow in the plot! - I do have an infobox for my user, and think that it has enough information about where I come from ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

10 day countdown

 * Thank you! Jauchzet, frohlocket! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 24
Hi, thanks for nominating. There's no citation in the article for the hook fact about Handel, The Messiah, or Ascension. Yoninah (talk) 16:40, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Need to go, thanks for the heads-up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Wilma Lipp
Hi Gerda, I must disagree with you about the opening of Wilma Lipp's article. She only recorded Konstanze once (and the recording is hard to find, not often seen in stores, I never knew it existed until the internet), but she was THE Queen of the Night for decades, was as securely and automatically associated with it as Hans Hotter was associated with Wotan or as Gustav Neidlinger was associated with Klingsor and Alberich or as Eliz Schwarzkopf was associated with the Marschallin. To associate Wilma Lipp with Konstanze AND Queen in the initial sentence is a little like saying "Hans Hotter was particularly famous for performances as Wotan and as Kurwenal." Well, yes, he did perform both those roles, and audiences loved them both, but......... HandsomeMrToad (talk) 22:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * She was my first Königin der Nacht, but I think it's a bit sad to reduce an artist (any artist) to just one role. I recently wrote about a bass who sang Sarastro many places, but the more interesting roles are the others. - He changed his name, and I don't know how to handle that. Help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 15 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Gosh, I don't know what help I can offer with that. But I am scheduled to sing the part of Sarastro my own self in a concert of excerpts from Die Zauberflöte, this tuesday night.  It's very limited, the only bit which will include me is the trio "Soll ich dich, Teurer, nicht mehr sehn?", none of the big blow-hard's arias, but eine Leistung ist eine Leistung, no matter how small, as Dr. Seuss might have said. In fact I have to get ready to go rehearse it now. HandsomeMrToad (talk) 22:18, 15 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Best wishes! - For the bass: I could do nothing, make a redirect from the new name, or move the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Seasons
Thank you so much! I was pleasantly busy singing Jauchzet, frohlocket, - returning from the last one. There was a week with 6 days of 8 rehearsals, for three concerts, and never boring. Best wishes for you and yours, and come over for my Christmas greetings, - as in last years, I won't post individual "cards". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Kewl. I hope you see me as "friend". <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 20:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That means something as wiki is a cold place at times and we go back, and as I said above like similar things. Listening to the very delicate now. <font color="#006633">Ceoil (talk) 21:29, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Listening to Brahms' setting of "O Heiland, reiß die Himmel auf", will check the delicate later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2018 (UTC)


 * OFF TOPIC Gerda, speaking of Bach, if you are not aware of this singer, watch and listen. This is a developing superstar.


 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33M6ghBQtI


 * HandsomeMrToad (talk) 07:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, both, inspiring. I loved the way our local alto began "Schlafe, mein Liebster" - entering almost unnoticable, gently developing her long first note, like out of sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for coming over, - love your user name! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Zu den heiligen Engeln
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Saturnalia
(copied, my eyes, you know:) Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season. Enjoy the sounds of the season. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for brightening my days! Please return to pick up my wishes in a few days! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

 * Thank you, that sounds lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Peace Dove Christmas
Happy Holidays. &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   20:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the inspiration. Did you see the tent of God with men on top? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Robinson (rabbi)
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Poèmes pour Mi
Alex Shih (talk) 12:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank You-RFD (talk) 15:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * You are fast ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jean-Claude Zehnder
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho
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 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding ~ to your friends' talk pages.

 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  14:08, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, and also to you! (will post more for Christmas and New Year, please watch) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Claus Leininger
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Holidays!

 * Thank you, and also to you! (No snow in the forecast, but I don't need an hour's walk to Christmette - and back - because the roads were not safe every year.) - I love our collaboration on schloss anc church! Come again tomorow for the leaping heart, on Christmas Day for shouting for joy, and on News Year's Day for Time.

DYK for St. Bonifatius, Kassel
Alex Shih (talk) 12:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 24
Alex Shih (talk) 12:02, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Hey there pal! Wishing you a merry christmas! I know it's early but tis the season. Do make a good Santa wishlist and have a really nice holiday! Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:55, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Spread the holiday cheer by adding ~ to your friends' talk pages.


 * Thank you! My wish was already fulfulled: singing Jauchzet, frohlocket. (Shout for joy, exult) - May you feel like that often! More precise wishes will come on top here, day by day ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:58, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I actually don't celebrate but thanks =D I celebrate Winter Solstice together with my birthday. It's an important chinese tradition. Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 13:31, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I hope it was joyful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yup, when you celebrate it overseas so it's triple the joy! Usually it's double joy haha Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 13:44, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you, and also to you! Please pick up more specific wishes on the days to come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#000; background-color:#FFB980; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Martinevans123 (Santa's Hard Brexit Grotto) ... sends you ... ... warmest seasonal wishes for ...... Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Merry Christmas Baby... and hoping that you have a good New Year !!


 * That's lovely, Martin. Also to you, and yes, I do. Two more days of singing ahead. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 * Thank you, and the same to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Рождественская песнь

 * Thank you for the exclamations! Mine is Jauchzet, frohlocket! which is quite general, - and I have loved "ban complaining" in its text especially. Hoping for more contemplation of music, with the best wishes for music-making and listening, - thinking of the friend whose legacy is "Music is relaxing, unless one listens". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sakura-Variationen
Hello! Your submission of Sakura-Variationen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

 * Thank you, also to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Weihnachtsgrüße


Merry Christmas & alles gute in den neuen Jahr, wunsche ich dir.

- Sca (talk) 21:45, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Danke, dir auch! Morgen singen wir weiter, - we keep singing, "singen, singen" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for St. Nikolai, Kiel
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho
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 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding ~ to your friends' talk pages.

 Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  14:08, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, and also to you! (will post more for Christmas and New Year, please watch) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Holidays!

 * Thank you, and also to you! (No snow in the forecast, but I don't need an hour's walk to Christmette - and back - because the roads were not safe every year.) - I love our collaboration on schloss anc church! Come again tomorow for the leaping heart, on Christmas Day for shouting for joy, and on News Year's Day for Time.

DYK for Psalm 24
Alex Shih (talk) 12:02, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Hey there pal! Wishing you a merry christmas! I know it's early but tis the season. Do make a good Santa wishlist and have a really nice holiday! Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:55, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Spread the holiday cheer by adding ~ to your friends' talk pages.


 * Thank you! My wish was already fulfulled: singing Jauchzet, frohlocket. (Shout for joy, exult) - May you feel like that often! More precise wishes will come on top here, day by day ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:58, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I actually don't celebrate but thanks =D I celebrate Winter Solstice together with my birthday. It's an important chinese tradition. Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 13:31, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I hope it was joyful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yup, when you celebrate it overseas so it's triple the joy! Usually it's double joy haha Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 13:44, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you, and also to you! Please pick up more specific wishes on the days to come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#000; background-color:#FFB980; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Martinevans123 (Santa's Hard Brexit Grotto) ... sends you ... ... warmest seasonal wishes for ...... Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Merry Christmas Baby... and hoping that you have a good New Year !!


 * That's lovely, Martin. Also to you, and yes, I do. Two more days of singing ahead. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 * Thank you, and the same to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome and thanks Gerda. – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:16, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Рождественская песнь

 * Thank you for the exclamations! Mine is Jauchzet, frohlocket! which is quite general, - and I have loved "ban complaining" in its text especially. Hoping for more contemplation of music, with the best wishes for music-making and listening, - thinking of the friend whose legacy is "Music is relaxing, unless one listens". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

 * Thank you, also to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Chris Troutman ( talk ) 17:59, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Chris, - my wishes on top --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Weihnachtsgrüße


Merry Christmas & alles gute in den neuen Jahr, wunsche ich dir.


 * GClef.svg Singen – Sca (talk)

- Sca (talk) 21:45, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Danke, dir auch! Morgen singen wir weiter, - we keep singing, "singen, singen" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Believe it or not, it was only yesterday that my sister told me about the long tradition of the Bielefelder Kinderchor, filling a big hall several times per season. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Gerda, I've had their Weinachtslieder album for ages – originally on vinyl (dating from 1957), now on CD. Every year I play it once on Christmas Eve and once on Christmas Day. How did they ever get those kids to sing with such perfect pitch, phrasing and clarity? Frohe Weinachten! – Sca (talk) 16:46, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * PS: Leider bei uns ist's heute, Leise rieselt der Regen. Oh well. Sca (talk)
 * The kids: you make them love the music and therefore do what's best for it. - The rain we can't help, but had some sunshine for excessively funny photo shooting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:55, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for St. Nikolai, Kiel
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Buon Natale
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May you have a very Happy Christmas, Gerda ...

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!

Best wishes and many thanks for all your work at Project Opera, Voceditenore (talk) 08:23, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, and for you, too. Especially excellent music this year, some quite dramatic, and hopefully to be pictured on the Main page! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:55, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Fröhlich soll mein Herze springen
Mifter (talk) 12:02, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
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Hello there! Shearonink (talk) wishes you & yours the very best of the season!

Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia, here's to hoping your holiday time is wonderful and that the New Year will be an improvement upon the old. CHEERS!

Shearonink (talk) 19:37, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Click on "merry" on top if you go for Christmas, or be back when the new year comes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jauchzet, frohlocket! BWV 248 I
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Some banket letter for you!
I hope you like almond paste (if you don't, all the more for me). Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Narky Blert (talk) 00:14, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas!
Happy editing into 2019 and beyond! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, all, - and look and listen to the top, for shared joy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sozusagen grundlos vergnügt
Mifter (talk) 00:01, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Kündlich groß ist das gottselige Geheimnis (Stölzel)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Echoes of spring
Don't know if you're a fan of jazz and particularly piano jazz but I can't resist the urge to offer this lovely piece to you. As you can hear it's in the minor mode but can't tell the key. Never mind, I discovered this gem in my youth and was always moved by it. I feel Smith didn't spend hours to compose that piece but that it was a God given gift. LouisAlain (talk) 21:22, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That's lovely, thank you, and I don't think in keys much ;) - Will do what I can for Schach now, and remind e if I forget to ake her to DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sakura-Variationen
Casliber 00:01, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Unger
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2018 (UTC)