User talk:P199/Archive 4

Naga City
Good Day to you, dear P199. First of all, I would want to go directly to the point. Naga City's article in Wikipedia does have some mistakes, but they are not false, and are verifiable with references, links, and pictures. If you may wish so, remove the bold prints, but please, I humbly beg for your mercy, not to take away the pictures, for they represent the truth from the city. They are referenced to wikimedia anyway, but please, do not remove the pictures, and the other sourced, and verifiable truths about Naga City

May you read this solemnly, and consult your humble conscience if there is a need. Just post back in the section, and I will find time, to have a reply to you. ---110.93.93.250
 * Thank you for adding many nice pictures to the article. The pictures are not a problem but the strong propaganda tone of the info is. See my further reply at Talk:Naga, Camarines Sur. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Canada Census
Hello right back my friend. Regarding your observations, wouldn't having the additional census infobox be information overkill? The same basic population info appears in the Census table.

As far as the big thing, do you think it's too much? I find the smaller print (even bold) doesn't stand out enough. Plus, I didn't want to make a header for it that would appear in the contents section. BTW: what is inconsistent formatting?

Let me know. Thanks. Gordalmighty (talk) 23:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for catching the vandalism before the one I reverted to on President of the Philippines. I usually do check previous versions, but there was a ridiculous amount of vandalism going on last night and only a handful of vandalism fighters, so I wasn't as careful in checking if previous versions were free of vandalism as I usually would have been. My apologies. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. I was a little harsh in my comment. I too have made this same mistake before. Regards, -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. It sometimes annoys me as well if I see someone revert to an also obviously vandalized version, but indeed, it's a mistake all of us make once in a while, especially when high-speed reverting vandalism for a while, I'd guess. Last night was crazy. Between reverts, warns and posts to the AIV and UAA, I racked up 120+ edits in maybe 1h30m. Have a nice day, AddWittyNameHere (talk) 14:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow. Fighting vandalism is a full-time task! What tool do you use to monitor it? -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 15:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Depends on the situation. I usually use Huggle to do the obvious work (like people randomly removing a couple thousand bytes of information from an article, replacing words with obscenities, making personal attacks against others and introducing deliberate factual errors (like changing someone's weight to "100000lbs" or someone's height to "19ft") and similar stuff), open the page in-browser if I see a good-faith change that has to be reverted or have reason to suspect subtle vandalism, vandalism in previous edits or am plain unsure if something is vandalism (like additional information in a referenced paragraph, where I have to check the source to see if the added information is covered, or quotes with expletives that may or may not belong in said quote, removal of seemingly sourced information with the claim that it's not covered by the source) and, if something has to be reverted, usually use Twinkle to revert it and leave a warning if necessary. I usually do the same if I have to comb through several revisions to find the last non-vandalized revision. Occasionally, I use my WP:Rollback-privilege in its pure form, but that's almost only when I'm in-browser and dealing with a vandalism-only account or IP that keeps doing the same edit to the same page and where I have no reason to check the actual edit in-depth.
 * I also tend to use the Recent Changes page and the filter logs. Once in a while, I keep an eye on the User Creation log to scan for problematic usernames, or more commonly, the New Editors Contributions log (which I scan for problematic usernames, usernames that show blatant COI when combined with their edit(s) and for vandalism). If I find an IP or user engaging in more varied vandalism, or subtle vandalism, I usually check their contributions as well to see if there's anything else that needs reverting, though I usually only have time to do that if the Huggle revert-per-minute rate is 8 or below. (I suppose it's no huge surprise when I say that by my estimate, about 70% of my edits are in some way related to dealing with problematic edits or editors? XD) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Nice work on merges
It's nice to run into someone else with the same project. You, User:GenQuest, myself and a handful of others seem to be digging hard into that backlog. My goal is to get it down to less than 10,000. Nice to see that you've joined the project. -- Nick Penguin ( contribs ) 03:35, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. There are a few other projects I work on, but I have worked on the merge backlog from time to time before. I just thought it would be time to add my name to the WikiProject. Kudos to you too, because merging is a tedious task. BTW, after a merge, you need to add the merged-to and merged-from templates on the talk pages. Regards, -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:15, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hull
Thanks for the thanks. What I added is mostly about Hull's fame as a wild place to drink. But there was a small section already in the article about it being a POW location during the war. Does the POW paragraph look awkward, mixed in with all the bar and drinking stuff? I'm wondering if it needs it's own section. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:16, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Recent Changes to Waterbodies
No disrespect intended but......really? I think you're being a bit too picky over things I am doing to improve these pages. I have already conceded in the issue of large font 8-way headers. Making the waterway fonts blue and surrounding the name with watermarks  is only there to improve the page. Please stop reverting edits only because they are visually unappealing to you (and you do appear to be the only one). I enjoy editing Wikipedia, but will not waste any more time if this is to be a regular occurrence. Sorry dude, really not pleased. Gordalmighty (talk) 23:55, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry you feel that way and I don't mean to aggravate you. I do appreciate your efforts on Quebec municipality articles. But my point is that changes like this affect not just the Quebec municipalities. The geographic location is used in 10s of 1000s of articles. So by changing the look it is no longer consistent with other places. Why should only Quebec have unique formatting? These geo templates were in place already a long time (even before my involvement), why reinvent the wheel now? Normally changes that affect so many pages should be discussed first to get consensus (WP:BRD). Moreover visual changes are highly personal (thus to consider them improvements is also personal), so if we don't keep them consistent, the next editor will change it all according to his/her preferences! Anyway, besides tweaking templates, there is still so much to do on these articles, like adding real content. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply P199. I will suspend this part of my edits for the moment. I may consider one day getting a concensus on it (however it's done), but I'm dropping it for now. Sorry for the shit. Peace. Gordalmighty (talk) 23:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive editing
I sincerely apologize my cousin has been doing to you, and wikipedia. I traveled to Manila, while my cousin used my account to attack, and bash, and worse, vandalize the legitimacy of the articles he has disturbed. I have already changed my password, in order for my cousin not to enter it anymore. Please just forgive him for the trouble my cousin has committed

Thanks for messaging me...Dominic McArthur — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dominic McArthur (talk • contribs) 13:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Official names of Bacolod in other languages
Can you please explain the rationale of why you keep on reverting edits with regards to the other official names of Bacolod City in Hiligaynon, Tagalog, and Spanish, the other official languages in the city? If there is no need to translate the name "city" in EN wiki, then you also have to delete these official names from ALL Philippine cities, not just Bacolod. By this regard, I will revert your reverts on Bacolod's page until you can give either a suitable explanation and apply the same to other Philippine city pages. Thanks. RepublicaNegrense (talk) 23:04, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Think about what you just wrote: Does this city really have 4 official names in 4 languages? No. It is merely the translation of the same term "city". As English WP, we don't need to know what city is any other language. If someone needs to know, they can click on the links for the foreign-language Wikipedias. And yes, me and other editors are trying very hard to clean this up from other PH cities (and municipalities!!!) as well (for example see contributions by WikiEditor50). But I can't have every LGU on my watchlist, and we can't keep up with editors who revert! -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:12, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you applying this merely for Philippine wiki entries for Philippine LGUs or is this a universal decision? Let me cite you non-Philippine cities: Ceuta and Melilla. The different words for cities is not just merely there to translate but are official names of the city. Thus far, by city ordinance, the Hiligaynon, Tagalog, and English names of the city have co-equal status, while there is no repealing ordinance that made the Spanish name not official anymore. As far as I know, you only led me to another user talk, not a current discussion. If there was any discussion page about this being participated by other wiki editors, please link me to that one first. Just like how "city" was removed from the header title of each city that does not have the same name as the mother province and each edit cited a discussion page. Thanks. RepublicaNegrense (talk) 11:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's continue this discussion at Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines‎. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:01, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Protection for the Legazpi Page
Dear P199,

The Legazpi Page has suffered a series of serious cases of vandalism, most of which were done by the user Dominic MacArthur. I humbly request from you sir/ma'm to please block his account and his IP address. Thank you.Unique Albay (talk) 09:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit war
P199, edits in Naga, Camarines Sur, Legazpi, Albay, Bicol Region, and other pages, vandalized by User:Unique Albay, has resulted to a total outrage. Some important data, valuable knowledge and sources, regarding the topic, have been tampered with false, and bogus edits done by the said user. May I wish it would not result to edit war, but the user has been stubborn about it's stand. I wish your helpful cooperation to this outrage and help to seek the truth.

Many people have lost credibility to Wikipedia, especially to these pages, because of this insolence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan Corrset (talk • contribs) 12:43, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Why cower behind a single-purpose account? Both User:Unique Albay and User:Dominic McArthur have made very questionable edits and both really should first learn the policies and guidelines of WP!!! -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


 * In my defense, I have not included facts and assertions that are baseless or false. I have indicated citations and references for verifiability. Should my edits result into an edit war, I will always be ready and armed with sources that will back up my statements. Although as of the time being, I still don't have all available sources and references, I promise to provide them as soon as I have them. For the violations I have done, please describe what they are so I would know what I should do. Thank you. Unique Albay (talk) 15:16, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Ethan Corrset, may I ask why the statement that Legazpi is the largest in Bicol was deleted? Please explain. In common parlance, largest city of any place in the world refers to the most populous city of that area. Also, there was no mention of "capitol" in my edits. I mentioned "capital." Please explain how a region cannot have a capital when a capital means the seat of government and the administrative center of a certain place. Also, the strategic location part was deleted for no reason! It was not false, just not backed up by sources, which can be provided, although not so easy because government facts in the Philippines are so hard to retrieve! Another deletion was about the Integrated Reorganization Plan of 1972. Why was it deleted? It shows the history behind how Legazpi was chosen as the administrative center of Bicol Region. Do you seriously think we can retrieve a 1972 plan? You must be kidding!Unique Albay (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


 * This is not the place to discuss article issues, use the article talk pages! I will provide my thoughts there. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 15:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Administrator's Noticeboard discussion
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Talkback
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Talkback
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DYK for Carling Campus
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What's with the revert?
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Please cite what rule I violated and why is it against Wiki-policy to know what happened to your fellow editors. That's uncivil of you not to even talk about it in my talk page.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:58, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


 * If falls outside the intended scope of Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines, which states: to "discuss general matters regarding the development of Philippine-related articles as well as broad topics on the Philippines with respect to Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects." And there is also WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK. Anyway, looks like other editors interpret this differently, so nevermind... -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:07, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Stroboscopic effect
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Weather Averages
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 * Yes, sure, that is a good idea. But I won't have as much time to work on WP over the next couple of weeks, so it'll go slow... I checked the website above, and I am not so sure how accurate this info is. Does Itbayat really have a weather station? I don't think so, therefore this weather info is either general or interpolated. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 23:40, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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Pacijan Island
I think it important to separate as far as possible physical geography, i.e. islands, from administrative divisions, i.e. municipalities. My idea was to merge all the Camotes islands under the Camotes Islands umbrella, and reserve the municipalities' pages for topics which are at that level. So I put Lake Danao into Pacijan island, together with brief notes of beaches, but I would place items such as transport (ports), industry, churches, schools etc., into the municipality pages. I would then cascade upwards (merge) the four islands into the Camotes page. Apart from Pacijan, which I worked on yesterday, the other three pages are complete stubs with zero info outside of their infobox-style data. (I created the infoboxes earlier this week). For instance the mangrove swamp between Pacijan and Poro was designated a protected mangrove reserve some years ago. That is nothing to do with any municipality.

I don't think because a geographical entity happens to lie within a municipality that that is a reason for its inclusion on the municipality page. I'm thinking here of Tulang, a small dot of an islet administered within brgy Esperanza of San Francisco and whose entire population was evacuated off before Yolanda. All the houses were destroyed; I can't ascertain whether they've been re-established but I doubt it. Tulang obviously is not part of Pacijan, so can't be included in it. It is already distinguished within the lede of Camotes Islands, and I think should be merged into it.

Then there is Poro Island. That entirely contains two municipalities. It would not be logical to include it in one municipality and not the other, nor to include it in both. I think it necessary and right to maintain the geographical entity – island – separate from its content, municipalities. In which case it follows that Poro and Tudela stand clear of their physical geography.

So if Poro and Tudela don't include island geography, then it follows that neither should Pilar / Ponson Island nor San Francisco / Pacijan

As an aside, I think the main problem with Cebu is that it is very hard to extract physical geography information, such as land area and population of Cebu island only, from the predominantly administrative oriented other. I had a similar difficulty a couple of years ago with Bantayan Island and Bantayan municipality. It took quite a while to sort out the jumble, not helped by the official municipality web site which had (still has) everything jumbled together.

Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Fri 08:32, wikitime=  00:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

I moved this to Tambayan talk to get a wider range of opinions. Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Fri 19:46, wikitime=  11:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Health in Norway
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DYK for Lake Tremblant
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It's a long time ago now, but I think it's near Lunenburg <b style="font-family:chiller;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  19:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Getting census year from wikidata (Pamilacan Island, Tagbilaran etc.)
Yeah when I was adding something to Pamilacan I noticed your code for extracting census year. I must say that this whole wikidata thing seems to have been designed by people who don't have much of a clue about the real world (cf. extraction of coordinates). What I'd really like is (working) ability to extract from other pages' data. For instance for Bantayan Island to get population stuff automatically rather than having to faff about with #expr:s. Minor problem is that population data isn't present within wikidata for any of the three municipalities. I haven't checked, but I imagine it's the same story for Camotes.

Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Tue 22:24, wikitime=  14:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * There are bots adding info to Wikidata, but it can be edited manually like WP. So you can add population data: go to "Statements" section, click "add"; type "population" in the property box, then type in the number with "+-0" at the end (i.e. "74785+-0" for Bantayan, Cebu); click "save"; then click "edit" to add qualifier data. As for extracting from other pages' data, that would indeed be great and there was some talk on implementing this. But this seems to be stalled... -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 14:56, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * OK. I know when I tried before it kept adding ±1 which drove me up the wall.  How about getting the census year in?  Actually, the data is quite iffy - one time I looked at the geodata it was for another place entirely, can't remember what I was looking at.  And it tells me that Bantayan is the birth place of a major Philippine porn star (male)!  -- Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Tue 23:05, wikitime=  15:05, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * As for the census year, click "edit" next to the population number, then "add qualifier"; type "point in time" in property box and then the date in the data box (i.e. 2010-5-1 for the last PH census). You can add another qualifier: type "determination method" in property box and then "census" in the data box. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 15:16, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * This is going to take a looooong time. Wikidata is so unwieldy.  I was able to retrieve value of "point in time" (census year), but it initally threw an error when I tried for value of "determination method" (census).  Wait, that method is to retrieve a date.  What is needed is Wikidata|getRawQualifierValue (without Raw it returns wikilinked value).  And it is camelcase, so for my purpose it needs to be
 * Module:Wikidata/doc is a useful page.
 * Doesn't appear to be any way of getting areas into wikidata.
 * I may be gone some time! -- Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Wed 10:37, wikitime=  02:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Using wikidata

 * I changed various municipalities to use wikidata for popn and its qualifiers.  then developed a template (Population census prose) which writes the same text, and she has installed it in those municipalities.


 * I have spent some time writing code to extract wikidata location data (i.e. #property:P625) in a usable form. I've now got that working too, in my sandbox.  I'd like said Frietjes to give it the once-over before publishing a template.  I propose initially just installing it on Cogon, Tagbilaran which is a small and rarely-visited page.

-- Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Sat 18:21, wikitime=  10:21, 20 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Apparently moves are in hand to incorporate coordinate extraction from wikidata directly into infoboxes. So I will put this into abeyance. -- Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sun 07:39, wikitime=  23:39, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, I will start using Population census prose when updating articles. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 19:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Prager University
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Legazpi Page
Please explain the reversions on the page of Legazpi, Albay. From what I understood of the term ünconstructive edit, it means an unhelpful edit or one that is not beneficial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.215.120.253 (talk) 08:33, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Right. Rewriting the references and changing the intro to a non-standard format is indeed unhelpful. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 14:03, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Then, you could have just mentioned that it is not in a standard format. Saying that it is an unconstructive edit, and completely undoing an edit, including a portion that is not really unconstructive, is rather impolite/rude for not stating the particular rule it deviates from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.215.120.195 (talk) 07:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Daanbantayan etc.
That's a fairly loose interpretation of the word 'adjacent'. Really, it ought to be Madridejos to the west and Santa Fe to the southwest. Incidentally, I prefer using | (upright) to / (slant) as a separator.-- Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 22:14, wikitime=  14:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I have often wondered how to treat larger bodies of water in the Geographic location box, but ultimately we have to consider the objective/purpose of the box: to navigate around. By linking Daanbantayan to Santa Fe (and vice-versa), we accomplish that purpose that allows someone to navigate across the Philippines. Obviously it is not an exact science, so I had to make some judgment calls that I think made the most sense. I have no opinion on pipe versus slant, but there is no benefit in redoing all the templates for this minute difference in preference. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 14:30, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I do like to get things right, or at least to break the rules in a standardised way, and to provide information concisely. What do you think of what I did to Daanbantayan??  OK or overkill?  BTW where do you draw the line on adjacency?  Any direction from any coastal municipality, you're bound to hit land somewhere.  But I don't think there would be any benefit in for instance saying what is north / northeast / east of Daanbantayan. --  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Wed 00:19, wikitime=  16:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the distance is overkill (especially so big???), probably better adding that to a Geography section. Where to draw the line on adjacency? Well, I agree with you: you'll hit land eventually, so there is no benefit in adding places that are far away (only adds confusion). I only added municipalities where it was very clear or obvious (like small bodies of water), and where necessary for continuity of navigational links (like across straits, see for example Tingloy or Pilar, Cebu). Yes, where it would be confusing (like Laguna de Bay) I omit LGU's across the water. I have been very consistent in this approach, so in a way, the geo boxes are already standardized (well, there were consistent before someone removed the links ;-) ). -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 17:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Getting coords from wikidata
I think the "official version" will be a long time coming. I was told that removing coords from the infobox entirely will cause automatic default to wikidata values, but this didn't seem to work when I tried it. I have developed a template parseWDCoords and test-implemented it on Madridejos, Cebu. What do you think?

I also think the facility to fetch data for another page will be an even longer time coming, so that for instance deriving the accumulated population of a group of islands, such as Camotes, will not be an automated feature "in our lifetimes". It could be done at page level, or it could be built into wikidata itself. As it is, I think it will be neither. -- Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Fri 19:27, wikitime=  11:27, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Kudos for trying to resolve this! You must have noticed that I have brought these issues to the attention of various talk pages before... As for parseWDCoords, if it is always meant to be used with , why not hard-code it into the template so there is no need to add it as a parameter? For example, its use would be  , instead of  .  And since this template has the potential to used in 100,000's of articles, I suggest to discuss this template at Template talk:Coord or Talk:Wikidata for more ideas and feedback. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 14:53, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Well I prefer some flexibility, because (a) there could well be more than one coordinate type statement on wikidata; (b) I hold out the hope that some time in the future it will be possible to get data for a different entity. What I could do is make it optional with the default of P625.  This would mean reversing the parameter order so type comes first.  Tomorrow – now coming up to midnight here. --  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Fri 23:17, wikitime=  15:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I made changes along these lines. For auto-insertion, I think the infobox should invoke all 8 elements, even though some (e.g. arcseconds) may be absent. See Madridejos, Cebu, which has no arcseconds, and Bantayan Airport, which does.  I think I'll run it past Frietjes and  ‎Redrose64 first for comments before throwing it urbi et orbi. --  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sat 08:03, wikitime=  00:03, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks again to tackling this. Looks like there is finally some action on it at Infobox settlement thanks to you. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 02:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well Frietjes is doing something, not entirely sure what. Her plan is to bring in all wikidata in one fell swoop, but I think there may be difficulties, for instance with municipality seal / flag, which keeps getting removed maybe because it's not in commons.  Hard to say, because Ukrainian editor doesn't answer calls. Meanwhile I think I'll press on with mine, but 'as and when' rather than a mass update. --  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sun 11:03, wikitime=  03:03, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Lapu-Lapu, Philippines
Hello,

Hopefully we could update details for the Lapu-Lapu City Wikipedia Page. Some contents are outdated, and lacking. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.255.12 (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Barangays
As a result of adding barangay maps to various (Bohol) municipalities, I have started looking at the barangays. So far, I have only looked at Ubay and its barangays (44 of them). My first puzzle is the coordinates on the article pages. It is not at all clear where these came from, but basically they have been there ab initio. The problem is that they do not at all concord with the maps published by NAMRIA. For instance Bongbong has 9°58′32″N 124°27′59″E, but my calculation from the map is 9°56'28"N, 124°27'15"E. It is pointless to try to verify with Google maps, wikimapia, etc., because they basically form a circular reference. My inclination is that in the absence of any other document, to use the values calculated from the NAMRIA maps. Incidentally these are readily available via Topographic Index Map 1:50,000. Unfortunately Ubay is spread over four sheets: 3820-I Alicia, 3821-II Talibon, 3921-III Lapinig Island and 3920-IV Mabini.

My second problem is with the maps themselves produced by BhlJRama. I think their colouring is not at all helpful, and to a large extent, with the lettering on top, contravene WP:CONTRAST. I am also uncertain of any reference points for these maps. I think they would be better as grey-shades or unshaded, with no lettering. Additions can generally be made at rendering stage. It would be relatively easy to develop a set of "location within" maps that way. I have tried contacting the user (3 times) with no response.

I know in the scale of things this is all basically trivial. However my feelings are that if anything is done, it should be done well, with reasonably true output.

-- Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Wed 16:31, wikitime=  08:31, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Incidentally, map maker (whose name escapes me) also went and blanked all the barangay talk pages, but I have recovered them. And it was he who resequenced some of the sections. -- Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sun 21:51, wikitime=  13:51, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You are raising some valid concerns, and I agree that the accuracy may be questionable. And interestingly, the maps at NAMRIA are also hopelessly outdated! They are based on "aerial photographs taken in 1947-1953 and 1979". Quite frankly, I don't see any purpose for the maps because they add no value or significant info to the article. But I respect the editor's contributions. On the other hand, it may be better to bring this conversation to Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines, because we can try to reach a consensus there whether or not the maps should remain, or what format it should have. BTW, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure before moving sections around. Regards,  <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 13:28, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the amount of response we've got so far, we could have kept the conversation here! I've just added to the piece on Tambayan.  There are all sorts of gross errors uncovered.  It doesn't seem correct to maintain what basically is a set of lies.  I think the barangay pages should all be scrapped, unless there is any notable.
 * Yes, it is amazing that an inconsequential topic liks Barangay article titles naming convention creates so much discussion, yet content issues that affect its quality and credibility not so... Further reply at Tambayan. Regards, <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 14:49, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Belize Barrier Reef edit
Re: your recent revert at Belize Barrier Reef, the editor who added that content also added similar content to a couple dozen other articles - all sourced to the same commercial blog (dive-the-world.com). As that blog is selling a service it fails WP:RS and the repeated addition of associated urls to a variety of articles was spam. I will agree that my edit summary should have been more clear - rather than just spam, sorry 'bout that. Please review the reference used on that edit: and explain how it can pass our referencing policy. Vsmith (talk) 13:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I hadn't noticed that the external site was added to dozens of pages, which, I agree, makes the motive of these edits appear to be purely commercial. But referencing a commercial website is not wrong in itself. In fact, many commercial websites have very reliable info, especially of specialized info in their respective field. In this case, the added information was on topic, didn't promote the business, and wasn't written as an advert (although not entirely WP:NPOV). WP:RS states that "e-commerce links should be replaced with non-commercial reliable sources if available". -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 19:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ouch, just found out this is likely to be a major WP:COI. The editor in question may well be the same as this one ! -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 19:15, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

PH electorate
You probably noticed I was adding electorate numbers to pages. However I have come to a stop on that, as some of the data is deficient: Bogo City has numbers for 14 of 29 barangays missing, and even Cebu City has 10 barangays missing. I've not looked further. This is from the official Comelec web site. Until the numbers are present, there is no point in using them, as they paint a completely incorrect picture. -- Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Thu 17:34, wikitime=  09:34, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What about NSCB? It also lists the registered voters, see Bohol example. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 12:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OK I'll work on it . But that's only at mun level, whereas Comelec promised to barangay. Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Thu 21:02, wikitime=  13:02, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Also, I found a better Comelec page which gives voter numbers, and in some cases a m/f breakdown. That could be interesting on the demographics page – seems like women (voters) outnumber men in most places, around 1.05&#x2640;:1&#x2642; Income classification may not matter much in itself, but for me anything that can be moved off the bespoke page and become a candidate for automation is good. – Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sun 10:27, wikitime=  02:27, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've asked wikidata to add a new property PSGC code. I can't see any problems but it does take a week or so for it to happen.  Meanwhile I'll wait.  BTW a new property 'area' is coming soon, not before time.  I think I'll also ask for income classification – settlement type is already held. --  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Fri 11:48, wikitime=  03:48, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! I've wanted an area property for a long time. As for income classification, I don't care for it much, it isn't very useful... -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 12:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Seem that PSGC has been there all along – P988. Not much encoding though, so that may take some time.  It also implies a different use of P150, which I thought just contained a type but in fact needs a list of members (pages).  See Ubay, Bohol.  After which I can change a couple of templates to use it  (cf conditionalURL), but not until.
 * Thanks. When I get the chance, I will start adding PSGC detail to the infoboxes. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 13:51, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I tweaked that so that first of all it tries for {$($#property:P988}$)$ then if that fails uses . But using the template is only half the story – the property has hardly been populated at all on wikidata.  Not at all on Bohol nor Cebu, which is what I've been covering so far, so I guess most places not.  After these I'll move on to more of the Visayas. BTW 'area' property was approved in June 2013, but has been waiting since then for a number.  I think I'll try to shake something.  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Mon 17:16, wikitime=  09:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Lemery, Batangas
In this edit you changed the page to get data from Wikidata and it's now giving errors. I cannot see what is wrong myself – the wikidata page is there and seems to have the data – but I am unfamiliar with the methods used to access it so may have more luck identifying the problem.-- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 22:58, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The other new script error page, Orangeville, Ontario has a near identical problem, but it has had it for a lot longer. It must be something other that changes to that page that's causing it, the same is probably true of Lemery, Batangas.-- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 23:06, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Found a third; reported it here: WP:VPT-- JohnBlackburne words<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">deeds 23:17, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I had noticed it but I thought it was just a matter of refreshing the cache, so I was waiting to see if it would resolve itself. Thanks for bringing this issue to the Village Pump. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 00:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Possession of stolen goods
I am curious to ask why the commons picture that you chose in this article depicts a sidewalk in Vancouver. The caption reads "Officers of the Vancouver Police Department checking for stolen goods at a flea market", however the picture in question seems not to be of a flea market, but of a sidewalk. I am also curious as to whether this is the best depiction of stolen goods, as it is unclear that any of the items are identifiable stolen. I am further concerned with image given that faces are visible and aspersions are being cast against the person without evidence. If the person could be found, they would certainly not be happy about this Wiki page acting as judge and jury. Please comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.150.191 (talk) 21:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I choose this photo because it well illustrates that possession of stolen goods could get you in trouble with the law. I didn't take this photo, so I have to trust that the uploader knows best and provided the right description. It could easily be that the actual flea market is right behind the camera. No judgment or allegations are made, it merely shows a routine police check. So no, I don't think aspersions are cast (i.e. it doesn't say "officers charging someone for stolen goods"). That said, if you think there is a better image fitting this article, by all means, add it to the article. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 13:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rick570/St Peter's College list (2nd nomination)
FYI: I have relisted this MfD because of sockpuppetry in the first discussion. JohnCD (talk) 14:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Bog
Thank you for your help (pass it on) Victuallers (talk) 12:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Kalibo
Why you deleted my edits on Kalibo? That is the correct native name of Municipality of Kalibo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:1010:DFF7:FACE:B00C:0:8000 (talk) 05:06, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * "Kalibo" is the same in every language, including native languages, and there is no need to translate "municipality" as per WP:UE (see also Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Archive35). -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 12:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Denke
Are you aware of what a kook this guy is? And a self-publicist under various aliases. He claims he owns Stonehenge. Doug Weller (talk) 09:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Ranking by area: Negros or Samar
Sources differ as to which island is larger:

I decided not to weigh in on the article until I've had time to do a bit more research. Whatever the result, Samar will need to cite a source. Worldbruce (talk) 21:19, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info; it almost seems that the numbers between EB and UNEP are switched. I have mostly used UNEP in island articles for consistency, but I will also do more research. In this case an authoritative primary source may be needed. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 01:04, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I finally took the time to dig into this, see my discussion at Talk:Negros (island). Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:46, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Nice presentation! I'd found that the Columbia Gazetteer of the World and The World Book Encyclopedia concurred with your overall finding, but was unsatisfied because the first only said it used "official sources" and the latter didn't say anything about its sources. I'm glad you found the numbers from the National Statistics Office. I'll bet whoever compiled UNEP's table simply transposed the sizes of the two. Worldbruce (talk) 23:35, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Hopewell, Pennsylvania link to Hopewell Parish, Nova Scotia
FYI. In disambiguating at Hopewell Parish, New Brunswick recently, you gave up and chose to delink Hopewell, Pennsylvania. I thought of checking when the alternatives were settled, and that narrowed it down to the Chester County one. More at Talk:Hopewell Parish, New Brunswick. Your judgement was reasonable, but I just wanted to let you know that in this case it seems there was a way to reason it out. Knock on wood, hope i am right. :)

By the way, I just delinked another one where it was going to be impossible to find out which of 2 Nova Scotia places was the birthplace of an Alberta representative to House of Commons, and it really wasn't important. I did post at the Talk pages of the two alternatives though. -- do ncr  am  01:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your checking. But as food for thought: if you have to "knock on wood, and hope to be right", it is better to leave it out... It is better to leave it out than to have it wrong. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 01:28, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
(Comment for you from another user). North America1000 14:05, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I stand by my decision, I got nothing more to add. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 00:40, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Romblon
Here, you reverted an edit I had made to the Romblon article. Thank you for that reversion -- it fixed a screwup on my part. An edit summary on the reversion would have been useful, though. I should have put that info into the Romblon, Romblon article, and I have now done that here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:09, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I wanted to add an edit summary, but inadvertently clicked on "rollback" on my watchpage which bypasses the option to do so. I noticed you already figured out that the info was misplaced on the province article instead of the LGU. Thanks again for adding it at the right article. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 01:12, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Temagami
Hi P199. Would you be interested in starting a WikiProject for Temagami? I'm kind of busy right now but I might be able to work on it sometime later on. There is currently over 100 Temagami-related articles and there is a lot more to create.  Volcano guy  22:11, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks for your efforts trying to improve WP. I think WikiProject Ontario is sufficient. There are hundreds of Ontario-related articles that are in need of improvement, and the Temagami area is not more important than other areas in Ontario that need attention. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 01:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * True, but there are only a few communities in Ontario that have several WP articles. When a locality has at least a few hundred articles a WikiProject can be created.  Volcano guy  04:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I suggest to bring this idea to WikiProject Ontario talk page (or maybe WikiProject Canada talk page) for a centralized discussion. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 15:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Philippine: article structure
Trouble is, I had a stroke about 6 months ago. I've more or less got over, except is although I can read and listen fine, I am very hard to write, and speak also, although getting better with that. Not that I ever spoke at Wikipedia! Two problems are (a) I've least a lot of words: even though I think of things I can't put into words; (b) even know I can sentences / paragraphs, actually writing is like a foreign language, such as Martian, and takes me a long time to form writing, and often miss a word or two.

I do have things to talk of article structure. The basic form is OK, so History and Geography can be second-level sections, or can be Geography and History. But Geography has third-level sections, such as 'Physical geography', 'Land form' (and geology), 'Demography', 'Barangays', 'Culture'.

And what not to have includes WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:RS and general WP:NOTEVERYTHING.

Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 15:23, wikitime=  07:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:42, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

New editors V Bohol
First of all, those sketch maps of various municipalities in Bohol to me are just that, sketch maps and should be in an encyclopedia. I've not seen all of them, but those I've seen are not good. In Ubay for instance are terrible. I did see all of them when they were made in March/April because then is when I was ill. None of them add anything to the articles, and I thing they all be got rid of.

Another problem I have got now, is because of a few new editors want unencyclopedic tosh in such as Bien Unido, Bohol. Two of the editors are less than two months old / fewer than 200 edits. I've just had to cite to both. A third editor, more than three years but only 1000 edits, thinks that write the same paragraph but changing the sentence sequence will get rid of the copyvio problem. He usual makes just un-English changes.

I hope you could help by showing them what is good and what is bad. – Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sat 04:40, wikitime=  20:40, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Today there is a fourth new editor same as the other three. All started about end of October, made less than 200 edits, tinker with municipality articles in Cebu and Bohol.   One also changed wikidata.   Editors' names are SanJoSugbu, PureTrade, Chinchinhan, VanHalers09.  An there's another Iamtheyeishow has been around about 3 years, but has not done much until the last few months.  I think there all coming from NCR.  Need looking. –  Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Sun 20:24, wikitime=  12:24, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I will keep an eye on these editors and the Bohol articles. This is a normal problem for wikis. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:50, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello! I noticed my name was mentioned here. With regard to the edit I made in Bien Unido, Bohol, I believe that a copyvio problem is not applicable to that article. Inline citations are added with different sources and not just merely 'changing the sentence sequence' via single source. But if you find my edits not helpful then I will stop making any edits here in Wikipedia once and for all. I had the impression that Wikipedia is not a monopoly for senior editors. Also, I would like to respectfully apologize if my edits are "un-English". Wish you two the best of luck. I appreciate both of your efforts to keep the articles encyclopedic as possible. Keep safe and God bless. peace y'all – User:Iamtheyeishow (talk) 10 December 2015


 * In order for text not to be copyvio, it needs to be significantly different than the source, just adding a citation is not enough. As long as your edits are inline with all WP policies and guidelines, you are most welcome to edit. Yes the number of WP policies and guidelines can be overwhelming (even to experienced editors), but as a new editor, just be open to guidance from others. Don't let yourself be chased away by some blunt comments or actions of others (that is unfortunately a bit too common here on WP). And don't hesitate to leave me a message if you need help. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:57, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Let me say (again), I had a stroke in April. I'm mostly OK now but although I can read and listen OK, it's very hard to write and speak. I talk in shorthand and WP: . We need good articles, not tosh, WP:NOT. Editors to improve articles, not change what is already there. Unbuttered parsnip  (talk) mytime= Thu 10:46, wikitime=  02:46, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lighthouse Reef
Hello! Your submission of Lighthouse Reef at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SusunW (talk) 21:20, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lighthouse Reef
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Advice on table layout
Hello. I hope not to bother you, but I really need some feedback or advice. As you might have already noticed, I have finished expanding all tables of the administrative divisions of Philippine provinces. However, a guest user (was it Unbuttered Parsnip?) expanded the table further for the Siquijor article, which led me to think if I should use the format he used (rather than the one I did) for standardization purposes.

The format he used was very impressive, but the main problem I thought of was:


 * Provinces with many cities and towns (such as Cebu) would have their list even be longer (because of the two lines taken by both the converted area and population density figures).

One solution I had thought of: The converted figures (km2 and sq mi abbreviations) can be displayed in one line (just like what I did in Agusan del Sur), but the abbreviations' presence in each of the cells might appear 'redundant'. (The abbreviations can be hidden so that they only display the numbers, although I believe they might be needed in this format since the table will be wider).

I would not want to continue with the other provinces without being sure which format is truly better. Also, could you please check on my sandbox to see which table has the best layout to use for the rest of the provinces? Thank you very much. Sanglahi86 (talk) 23:53, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your hard work on the province articles. If you are concerned that the tables get too long or wide due to all the added info, you have to consider what the purpose is of the tables. A table lets you quickly compare and rank the LGU's. So it is helpful to have both the km2 and mi2, but it is not helpful to have the coordinates. This doesn't provide any comparative data, and sorting by coordinates is fairly meaningless. In my opinion, the coordinates column can be removed and then there will be enough space for both km2 and mi2 on 1 line (ZIP code is also a bit overkill because it also doesn't provide comparative data). As for your sandbox, I prefer table 5. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:32, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the response. I have to agree that the ZIP code is not really helpful/useful in the LGU table (at the time I added them, it was just an to add "extra data" to the tables. And some towns have multiple ZIPs; for 'special economic zones'). As for the coordinates though, I believe removing them would be worse than better since the LGUs are also geographic features; it allows users to know which towns/areas are adjacent to each other, and which town is at the edge of the provincial border. Besides, almost all coordinates (except for the italicized ones) I have added in the province tables point to the town center (I had gathered the info using multiple sources; OpenStreetMap, GeoNames, MapCentral, & Wikimapia). There are quite many instances where the "old/classic" coordinates of towns/cities (the ones in infoboxes, which have even been saved in Wikidata) are inaccurate (that is, they point to the 'generic location' and not the town center). Also, coordinates in the table allow the display of all cities/towns in a single map (using WikiMiniAtlas or OpenStreetMap); very useful if users want to see all component towns/cities of a province in the map. I will try using the dms format instead of decimal degrees to truncate the length of the coordinates. I will also remove the ZIP codes. Again, thank you very much. Your advice is highly appreciated. I will use Table 5 then for all province tables to make consistent.

P.S. Instead of removing coordinates, would it not be better to remove "income class"? If you check on the Philippine Statistics Authority source, these classifications are outdated (dating back to 2007 or 2008). Even if we have the DILG LGMPS (Local Governance Performance Management System) website, which has updated income class data (2012 I think is the latest), the income class is prone to vandalism/untruthful edits by some users (especially local residents who want their town to appear "richer"/more developed than the others. Sanglahi86 (talk) 20:07, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree. I never considered the income class as meaningful, and it is a constant target for vandalism. I would love to see it removed even from the LGU articles, but that should be discussed at Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 20:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

"Centre of town" is completely no use – what is it for. Nearest to one minute of arc would be close enough. Have comparative of eastings or northings would be useless, even they could be either (or both). 194.75.238.182 (talk) 14:23, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the prompt response. Okay, I will then also remove the (outdated) income class data from the provinces' LGU tables only (not from the infoboxes or article namespace).
 * Income class is not outdated. It is shown by PSGC/PSA at e.g. http://nap.psa.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/municipality.asp?muncode=071247000&regcode=07&provcode=12 It shows how much does each location know its income from central government.

Cities
This edit was done based on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_cities. Hyderabad article has a title named Cityscape which is a good article. So, I've added it that way. If have more info can share. Also, WikiProject_Indian_cities page has different order.-- Vin09 &thinsp; (talk)   05:43, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your efforts in editing WP. I noted that WikiProject Indian cities (WPIndia) is very similar to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure (WPCity), but they don't have to be exact same because WPIndia is tailored to Indian cities, whereas WPCity is a much more general guideline. As for "Cityscape", it is not mentioned in WPIndia and its content at Hyderabad does not match the sections that you renamed at WPCity. More comments at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:35, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Photo requests
Hi! Do you do photo requests in the Montreal area? WhisperToMe (talk) 01:44, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, sure. One caveat: it may not be until the summer before I will get a chance to fulfill the request. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 12:24, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That's fine! My requests are listed at Commons:Commons:Picture_requests/Requests/North_America WhisperToMe (talk) 17:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, great. I can work on several of these locations over the next couple of months. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 18:07, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Jerry121
FYI, that vandalism you just warned him for (well caught btw- I must have missed it) was from two days ago. So he might have learned by now. Or he might not, and just be preparing a slow-burning edit war. Merci bien! <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  12:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support, Fortuna. Please keep an eye on it as well because I don't think he might have learned by now. No one else warned him (or even noticed) and he is not giving up. Salut. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 12:59, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Banaue Rice Terraces
Fully agree with reducing the number of photos on the page. But why retain that stupid picture of a tourist taking photos? Roundtheworld (talk) 18:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * no particular reason. Feel free to remove or replace it. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 03:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hello. Regarding the use of Wikidata, I had noticed on several province articles that both  and  shows the old 2010 population figures, so I merely replaced the template with the actual 2015 population.

Also, it appears the population figures in some provinces infoboxes are hidden when using the above-mentioned templates (I preview-tested it in Capiz and the population info was not displayed).

I also tested in the Capiz infobox using  under the   parameter but the source template was not displayed at all. When replacing it with  though, the source was correctly displayed, so this is what I used.

Yes, I had left the ranks untouched since the province/primary LGU table/s were not yet updated at that time. Thanks for updating the primary LGU table, I will use it in updating the population ranks.

Also, I will try checking if both  and  templates work correctly in some provinces. Otherwise, I would (temporarily) use the data figure itself instead of the templates, until you might find a better solution since I am not very familiar with the intricacies of Wikidata. Sanglahi86 (talk) 17:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, could you please advise on how to correctly add numerical data in Wikidata? I was hoping to update some area and population of some provinces. However, the saved entry is displayed as 4,165.25±0.01 square kilometre (as in the case of Abra). How do I remove the ±0.01 and prevent it from being saved? Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 10:00, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Type in , and it will display  .  Regards,  -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 12:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It worked! Thank you for the information. Sanglahi86 (talk) 12:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello. The  (and  ) source templates are too broad. Would it not be better if the template could support specific regions, like for example   or   to display the exact PDF (2010 census) or XLXS (2015 census) document links? Sanglahi86 (talk) 18:45, 25 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi seems like a good idea to me. I will try to modify it tomorrow. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 15:10, 26 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Done, see Template:Philippine census reference/doc. See also example at Koronadal. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 16:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Marvelous work! Thank you for the info and update. Sanglahi86 (talk) 18:41, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Problem with default 2010 census source
Hello. The codes,  , and   in several province articles under Demographics section shows the source specific for regions instead of the generic/default source:

PSA; Census of Population and Housing (2010), Population and Annual Growth Rates for The Philippines and Its Regions, Provinces, and Highly Urbanized Cities (PDF), retrieved 29 June 2016

and

PSA; Census of Population (2015), Highlights of the Philippine Population 2015 Census of Population, retrieved 20 May 2016

I tested the templates in my sandbox and they worked perfectly fine, but not in province articles. Purging the template and the article has no effect, so I do not know what causes the problem. Although my suspicion is that the syntax might be directly invoking the region code from Wikidata overriding the template default. I posted a similar message yesterday at User:Alice Zhang Mengping's talk page who made the latest revisions, since the wiki syntax is complex for me to understand. He has not yet responded or fixed the issue. If you could, kindly fix the template to display the default source. Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 20:08, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Yes, User:Alice Zhang Mengping altered the template to take the region code directly from Wikidata. As it is right now, the Philippine census reference template no longer takes a 2nd parameter for the region. So, the only thing it would need to fix your problem is an override to get the default. I will contact Alice as well to ask for this. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 12:44, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi I have updated the template to allow for a 2nd input so that you can override the Wikidata value. For example:   or   will give the generic reference. See Template:Philippine census reference/doc. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 23:18, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for fixing this issue. Sanglahi86 (talk) 22:47, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, could you please check the  errors on some PH city/town infoboxes such as Tuba, Benguet? The code  causes the year to display as   instead of just. I have verified that using the code  correctly displays , but I do not know which articles have these error. I find AWB very complex to use, but if it is possible to search and replace these  codes, could you please check and fix the remaining errors on those city/town pages? Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 07:14, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi The problem with the #invoke code is that it grabs all qualifier years from Wikidata if there are multiple entries. Yes, I'm in the process of updating all LGU's with the new census info (working on Benguet right now), including replacing the #invoke code with the  template. It will be a while before I get through all provinces, so in the meantime, just replace it when you come across it. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 12:36, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will replace them when I encounter some. It seems QuickStatements in Wikidata doesn't have the ability to set the rank as either preferred or deprecated, so when I added in batch the 2010 population of PH cities/towns, it set them as normal by default. As of now, I am just waiting for PreferentialBot to set the latest population as preferred.


 * Also, I could not find the correct format to use in adding decimal numbers and the unit of measure using QuickStatements; I would have used it to add in batch the land area figures and its references of each town, so that their corresponding Wikipedia articles could already use the PH wikidata area template and also the population density. The problem is that QuickStatements appears to support only whole numbers and disregards the decimals and unit. Looks like we will have to do it manually.. Sanglahi86 (talk) 15:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I noted the rank issue and was going to inform you of that. But you already noticed too. Anyway, I don't have experience with QuickStatements, looks like a useful tool though... Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 16:00, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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Following your reversion, to Natashquan, Quebec (township) the article now contains WP:REFBLOAT, contains the dead link , and the References section now contains four large red "cite error" messages. What is your plan for fixing all of that? --Cornellier (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. Because of the recent update of List of cities and municipalities in the Philippines containing land area, population and density figures, the lists List of Philippine cities and municipalities by area and List of Philippine cities and municipalities by population seemed to be rendered redundant. Besides, the list by area shows only the 100 largest cities/towns, while the list by population is outdated. In my viewpoint, I think these two old lists should be deleted, and we can just copy the Gallery from the list by population into the List of cities and municipalities in the Philippines. What do you think? Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:18, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Yes, I agree. Having sortable tables with area and populations will render the "by area" and "by population" articles redundant. Deleting them will reduce the workload to update multiple articles after every census (or we can keep them as redirects). -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 13:22, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt response. Yes, I think it is better to keep them as redirects. I am not familiar with the deletion/redirect/merging process, so could you please resolve it? Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:28, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Both are now nominated for deletion. Please add your delete reasons to Articles for deletion/List of Philippine cities and municipalities by area and Articles for deletion/List of Philippine cities and municipalities by population. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 13:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have added my comments. I had disabled preview on first edit to save mobile data (my wi-fi promo expired), which led to a mistake edit in Provinces of the Philippines (I had manually reverted the revision). Although that aside, under the article's See also section, I had noticed List of Philippine provinces by area, which is clearly duplicate information with the Provinces of the Philippines list. Maybe another delete and redirect? Sanglahi86 (talk) 14:53, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I just redirected it. Simpler than a deletion nomination process... -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 15:05, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. Could you please check List of smallest municipalities in the Philippines. The article says:

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 * but is clearly duplicate information (if updated). Its only difference with List of cities and municipalities in the Philippines is that it focuses on municipalities alone. Is this article needed or should it just be redirected? Sanglahi86 (talk) 16:50, 4 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Thanks for finding these overkill lists. Seeing that it has no activity for many years, I just redirected it. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 17:26, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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Was wondering if I could ask you about File:Kingsway Sudbury.JPG, which you uploaded several years back to illustrate Sudbury Municipal Road 55 and Frood Mine. I've certainly glanced the photo a few times and had a bit of an "okay, wait a minute here, something's not right about this" reaction, but for some reason I can't remember I always let it slide instead of actually approaching you about it — but I grew up in Sudbury, and there's definitely no part of the Kingsway where the Frood Mine (or any other mine headframe, for that matter) is that closely visible in the foreground (or even really at all.) I'll admit the photo does sort of vaguely resemble the hill climbing up toward Falconbridge Road when you're heading back downtown from Coniston, but I even took the step of double-checking my memory against Google Maps and there's no headframe visible from there either. I'm really struggling to identify where else that photo could be (somewhere in the Valley, maybe? I don't know that part of the city nearly as well, except MR15/MR80 in and out of Flake), but there's just no way it's the Kingsway. Any chance you could double check where else it might be? Bearcat (talk) 03:57, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks for taking an interest in my photo. The photo and description are correct. The Frood Mine is exactly in-line with the Kingsway when you are at 3rd Avenue, where the photo is taken (see Google Streetview and zoom in, you can clearly see the Frood Mine). The mine looks closer as a result of a high zoom, which makes far away items seem larger, see Perspective distortion (photography). Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 16:42, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata advice
Hello, I need your advice regarding what qualifier (for the date July 29, 2008) is more suitable to use under. Should it be, or. The PSGC Interactive website shows the following note:

I was thinking it should be  in general, but have thoughts if   is more appropriate especially since income class doesn't always change abruptly and can continue for many years, unlike censuses. Sanglahi86 (talk) 18:53, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Either way, this is not significant. Yes, I would lean towards . Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 20:32, 11 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The statement from the PSA is quite confusing to me. The PSA does not explicitly state the time frame when the classifications were made. It appears to simply state the classifications made were based on the Department Order released on July 29, 2008. On second thought,  points to "published/released work". I think   with   would be more straightforward. Sanglahi86 (talk) 12:23, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * (I added details under income classification (Philippines) (P1879) to simplify things). Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:13, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

PSGC detail reference
Hello. The nscb template used in PH cities and towns do not show the land areas, which is why we keep that very long citation of nscb just to cite the land areas instead of the efficient nscb. I sent Alice Zhang Mengping a request to also allow citing the province PSGC URL in cities and towns, since these are where the land areas are shown, but he hasn't responded yet. It took me much time and effort to try "decoding" the complex code Unbuttered Parsnip had made on the template, but I admit I cannot comprehend how it works. It may be easier to simply cite the PSGC List of municipalities or List of cities page (but that doesn't seem like a wise idea since the municipality list itself has 75 subpages that will not qualify as a full citation). If you have time, could you please be able to add a #switch expression to the template so that it cites the province page? I have tried testing to add that function but I really don't know. Thank you.

(Just in case it might be needed, I pasted the draft text of the PSGC of each provinces below this paragraph (I hid it so that it won't take much space). I trimmed the number to 4 digits (rrpp) based on the switch syntax format PH census has: [although Cotabato City and Isabela City might be able to use the  parameter in #switch which would be the List of cities page. Maybe we can use it for the ref URL of the city/town which invokes Wikidata   (PSGC code):

| 1401 = Abra | 1481 = Apayao | 1411 = Benguet | 1427 = Ifugao | 1432 = Kalinga | 1444 = Mountain Province | 0128 = Ilocos Norte | 0129 = Ilocos Sur | 0133 = La Union | 0155 = Pangasinan | 0209 = Batanes | 0215 = Cagayan | 0231 = Isabela | 0250 = Nueva Vizcaya | 0257 = Quirino | 0377 = Aurora | 0308 = Bataan | 0314 = Bulacan | 0349 = Nueva Ecija | 0354 = Pampanga | 0369 = Tarlac | 0371 = Zambales | 0410 = Batangas | 0421 = Cavite | 0434 = Laguna | 0456 = Quezon | 0458 = Rizal | 1740 = Marinduque | 1751 = Occidental Mindoro | 1752 = Oriental Mindoro | 1753 = Palawan | 1759 = Romblon | 0505 = Albay | 0516 = Camarines Norte | 0517 = Camarines Sur | 0520 = Catanduanes | 0541 = Masbate | 0562 = Sorsogon | 0604 = Aklan | 0606 = Antique | 0619 = Capiz | 0679 = Guimaras | 0630 = Iloilo | 0712 = Bohol | 0722 = Cebu | 0761 = Siquijor | 0878 = Biliran | 0826 = Eastern Samar | 0837 = Leyte | 0848 = Northern Samar | 0864 = Southern Leyte | 0860 = Samar (Western Samar) | 0972 = Zamboanga del Norte | 0973 = Zamboanga del Sur | 0983 = Zamboanga Sibugay | 0997 = City of Isabela | 1013 = Bukidnon | 1018 = Camiguin | 1035 = Lanao del Norte | 1042 = Misamis Occidental | 1043 = Misamis Oriental | 1123 = Davao del Norte | 1124 = Davao del Sur | 1125 = Davao Oriental | 1182 = Compostela Valley | 1186 = Davao Occidental | 1247 = North Cotabato | 1280 = Sarangani | 1263 = South Cotabato | 1265 = Sultan Kudarat | 1298 = Cotabato City | 1602 = Agusan del Norte | 1603 = Agusan del Sur | 1667 = Surigao del Norte | 1668 = Surigao del Sur | 1685 = Dinagat Islands | 1507 = Basilan | 1536 = Lanao del Sur | 1538 = Maguindanao | 1566 = Sulu | 1570 = Tawi-tawi | 1845 = Negros Occidental | 1846 = Negros Oriental

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Good day,

Out of the 144 cities and 1,490 municipalities in the Philippines, Santa Maria ranked 67th LGU with the lowest poverty incidence and you don't consider that "one of the lowest"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Secaundis (talk • contribs) 15 November 2016 (UTC)


 * 67th? Not in the top 10, not even in the top 50! But more importantly, the statement "one of the lowest" is not in the reference, so it is a POV conclusion, against policy, see WP:SYNTHESIS. The same applies to the statement "dwarfing other cities and municipalities in the country". And another thing. Why is it necessary to add these statements? To promote Santa Maria? That is also against policy, see WP:PROMOTION. I trust you will remove these statements in accord with WP policy. Thank you. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b> ✉ 03:47, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

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Deletion of historical photo on article Canoe
Dear P199,

You just made this removal. While I sympathise with your criticism of clutter - there really are too many images on the Canoe article, I think the illustrations are biased greatly to leisure applications of canoes, while hardly explaining the still serious use for instance in the Third world. So I propose to remove some "clutter" in favour of non-sporting or phantasy images of canoes. What do you think of File:ASC Leiden - Coutinho Collection - 1 09 - Life in Canjambari, Guinea-Bissau - Canoeing across the river - 1973.tiff? Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 13:57, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That would be the only actual photo of people transport on the article. Hansmuller (talk) 14:47, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

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Mulmur, Ontario
Hello again. Would you have a moment to fix this edit to Mulmur, Ontario. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:28, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * This error has been added to a number of articles. I have written you twice about it.  Could you please take a moment to fix it, or inquire at the help desk about a fix for it.  It was added to a large number of articles.  Thanks again for your understanding.  Magnolia677 (talk) 15:38, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi It is a very easy fix by renaming to something else, for instance . I have not made it a priority to fix it because I will be updating ON articles to the 2016 census, which will take care of this issue, as you can see from my edit today of Mulmur, Ontario. Regards, -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 15:47, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hello from an air-supported dome worker
Hello P199, I wanted to say hello because I see you act as the caretaker for the Air-supported structure page. I am an employee of The Dome in Anchorage, Alaska and have already made some edits to that page. I plan to make a page for The Dome, and hope I can enlist your expert assistance in abiding by Wikipedia's guidelines for people with a close connection to their subject. I only want to contribute usefully to Wikipedia. Thanks for your time and attention! Russellfromthedome (talk) 23:59, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi It is usually not a good idea to edit articles to which you have a close connection; that is called conflict of interest. But it can be done if you adhere to the guidelines, see WP:COI. -- <b style="color:#199199;">P 1 9 9</b>  ✉ 20:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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Zamboanga del Sur
Give me a good reason why you reverted this edit "The Philippine Statistics Authority mistakenly included Zamboanga City as part of Zamboanga del Sur. (This error has not been corrected yet.)" Zamboanga City is a chartered city and is not part of Zamboanga del Sur. There is a province (Zamboanga Sibugay) between Zamboanga City and Zamboanga del Sur. Wikipedia is about what is correct and true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuhitkuhit (talk • contribs) 22:12, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The phrase "mistakenly included Zamboanga City as part of Zamboanga del Sur. (This error has not been corrected yet.)" is either your opinion or original research. No official sources support the stand that it is mistaken or an error. In any case, I adjusted the information at Zamboanga City slightly to make it clearer. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 01:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * Yes, I was aware of this a while ago and my signature was already updated. Obviously I am not retroactively changing it in every past occurrence. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 19:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)


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 * Thanks a lot Gerda Arendt for the recognition. It is nice to know that my efforts are appreciated. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

/* Cities */
Lingayen is a city — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lingayen II (talk • contribs) 03:23, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Provide proof. See WP:RS. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 01:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Mount Panther
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Future Canadian Election stuff
I have filed Sockpuppet investigations/Ocean912345. However, it may not be sockpuppetry. It may really be three users sharing three sandboxes, playing some sort of game. It doesn't make much difference. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It's more complicated than that. There is definitely some sort of game.  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

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Picture of Tublay municipal hall
Hello ! I have one concern. I wish to transfer this picture: File:Tublay town hall (Tublay, Benguet)(2018-11-26).jpg, to WikiCommons, although I don't know if the building has notable characteristics that could consider it as "NO-FOP." There's no information available on the Internet regarding its construction history nor the ppl behind its construction. Although Manila City Hall's distinct architecture makes it a no exception to the NO-FOP situation in the PHL, the municipal hall of Tublay seems to have ordinary architectural characteristics (similar to the town halls of rural municipalities in the Philippines that are available at wikiCommons). I just want to have your insight about this. Thanks! :-) JWilz12345 (talk) 06:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi The FOP in PH has been an ongoing issue on Commons. Problem is that the law is not specific and there are no legal cases that we can use as precedent. But that said, it is true that most buildings in PH are very utilitarian, without any character defining elements that could be considered copyright-able. And there have been deletion nominations on Commons for buildings that were kept because of this reason, but sometimes they were not kept. All depending on the interpretation of the closing admin. In other words, upload to Commons and take your chances. Maybe it will help if you clarify in the licensing section that this building no character defining elements that could be considered copyright-able. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 13:36, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have already uploaded the said file to WikiCommons, with added notes. Considering these files (I presume that they're yours based on their infos): File:Sagbayan Bohol 2.jpg and File:Catigbian Bohol 1.jpg - haven't got any issues related to no-FOP matter since 2009, I decided to follow my "intuition." I'm also thinking of transferring some other pics of municipal halls (but with extreme caution, since some, like this of Bauan, Batangas seems to have some copyright-able elements (File:Bauan Municipal Hall (F. Mangobos, Bauan, Batangas)(2018-07-30).jpg).JWilz12345 (talk) 05:11, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, those 2 are my photos. As for the Bauan municipal hall, it seems really unique, so I don't think that image would survive a DR on Commons. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 12:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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New provincial park redirects
Hi P199!

Thanks for creating these redirects - it would also be helpful to update the wikidata items linked to those provincial parks by adding the Wikipedia article there. For example, Albany River Provincial Park should be linked in d:Q22378435, since all provincial parks already have a wikidata item. Best, Braveheart (talk) 10:37, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can do that. But I thought Wikidata was not linking to redirects, only to articles... --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 12:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm right. I just tried to add the redirects to the wikidata item and it won't let me save it. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hm, sorry, I didn't know that wasn't possible. That's odd, because if someone decided to write an article, Wikidata would create a duplicate if they don't link the new article. :-/ Maybe linking the target article would make sense? Braveheart (talk) 16:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Linking the target article is not possible either because each WP article can only be uniquely linked to a Wikidata item (and not a good idea IMO). And yes, Wikidata is already full of duplicates. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:16, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, this sucks a lot. Thanks for discussing this, gave me something to think about :-) Braveheart (talk) 18:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Carp Hills
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Contact thru FB
Hi this isn't much related to Wikipedia, though it might be since I expect my upcoming contribs on Wikimedia projects to be intermittent due to real-life things and I might contact you somewhere. Do you have FB? I might contact you there if you wish so or if you have FB. My FB username is the same as my username ("JWilz12345"), except that there's no "User:". Thanks! :-) JWilz12345 (talk) 04:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi I will not be communicating through FB. Sorry. --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 13:42, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Compostela categories
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Peribonka River: importance scale
You gave the Péribonka river a significant low quote in the discussion page attached to the article on Wikipedia. For your information, this river is 547 km long; it is more than half of France in its greatest length. The Low quote in terms of importance is totally unrealistic for this river. Having evaluated more than 3000 rivers on the territory of Quebec on Wikipedia, I consider that the quote should be "high" in terms of importance. Please reconsider your evaluation. Veillg1 (talk) 15:39, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Many thanks for your work on rivers in Quebec. I appreciate your contributions. And thank you for discussing this with me here. You know, the importance of the river is not its length or size of its basin. For WikiProject Canada, a "High" importance article is a "topic that is vital to understanding specific topics about Canada or general topics about parts of Canada" (see WikiProject_Canada/Assessment). And as for WikiProject Rivers, a "High" importance article is a "Rivers of continental or major national signifcance..." (see WikiProject Rivers/Assessment).
 * By giving Peribonka River a "high" rating, you make it as important as the top level article Talk:Geography of Quebec or Talk:Saint Lawrence River. The Peribonka River is only significant on a regional level, not even on a provincial level. By comparison, I would consider the La Grande and Saguenay important on a provincial level, and therefore merit a "medium" rating. Clearly, the Peribonka River has nowhere near the same importance as these and other articles in Category:High-importance Canada-related articles and Category:High-importance River articles. Please reconsider. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 14:25, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
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Commons file
Hi P199.

Was wondering if you could suggest a way to try and resolve this? If the overwrite is not an issue, then that's fine; however, there's still a likely copyvio available on Commons being used in a lot articles on English Wikipedia when it shouldn't. I don't mind replacing the links on English Wikipedia with the free version that has been uploaded, but I'm not sure what to do about the file's use on the other Wikimedia Projects. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:22, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Wallpaper format to be based from your userpage
Good day from Pulilan, Philippines, P199! I want to add a "wallpaper décor" on top my userpage - User:JWilz12345 - similar to and to be based from your userpage. I will change the color and its contents, but the formatting is the same. I'm requesting your permission to use the HTML source in your userpage. If potential problems can arise, I might credit you for the HTML source basis of the wallpaper décor. Thanks! JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:59, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking, but no permission or credit is needed. I myself took several ideas from other userpages, and they took it no doubt from elsewhere again. BTW, all content on WP is CC-BY-SA anyway. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:56, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you User:P199! If you wish you may check at my userpage (and also my userpages in Tagalog Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons). Stay healthy safe and strong to you :-D JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:36, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Good morning from the Philippines! :-) I decided to save space here by reusing this thread hehe. One concern, pls. help . He's considering retirement because he felt he failed 😞 Thanks JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:05, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Department of Main Roads (New South Wales) - Propsed Demerge
On 30 December 2015 you merged the article on the Department of Main Roads (New South Wales) with that of its successor organisation the Roads & Traffic Authority. I would like to see that merge undone, as I have the text ready to provide a substantial article on the establishment and history of the DMR from 1932 to 1989. --Fivestar3145 (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on this. If you think you have enough material for a separate article, so be it, WP:Be bold. Otherwise I would suggest to add it to the history section of R&TA. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Request in fixing Wikidata item of Talaingod, Davao del Norte
Hello, may I request you to kindly fix the Wikidata item link of Talaingod, Davao del Norte? I could not find any "edit links" option in the Wikipedia sidebar. Is this something set in Wikipedia preferences? Currently, it is linked to this duplicate Wikidata item and is causing severe errors for PSGC-related templates in the page. It should instead be linked to this item. Thank you.–Sanglahi86 (talk) 05:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * just dropped by here since P199's user talk is included in my watchlist po hehe. I've fixed this error and this should be ok by now. Apparently, the enwiki link used at the original Wikidata item for Talaingod, Davao del Norte was the redirect link (Talaingod), which I suspect is related to a move attempt that eventually ended at Talk:Talaingod, Davao del Norte, and resulted in no consensus (reasonable since this centralized discussion for all uniquely-named municipalities at Mosphil talk hasn't closed yet de jure). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the fix.–Sanglahi86 (talk) 09:54, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Eligibility for Commons
hello P199! Is this file - File:NLEX Balintawak Toll Plaza - with billboards (Caloocan; 12-07-2019).jpg, OK for Commons? Or should it be kept locally due to presence of billboards (which I find worrying once it is now at Commons). I don't know if De minimis could be applied here. Thanks for your insight. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 23:32, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry
P199, i edited Cebu City on July 2, 2020, but the expection to one million people residing here is unnecessary, according to yourself. I am very sorry for doing a mistake, but i thought it will be expected reach millions. Thank you for your understanding. Rdp060707 (talk) 07:21, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No need to be sorry, I assumed good faith. Just so you know, usually we only accept the official census number as authoritative. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 16:25, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix
I don't absolutely need to have a Block. I meant get consensus into talk page before adding stuff as you provided for the page. I reverted more than once for a reason, not just because I don't like what you included for the page, as you think. Have a look at Eifel Styrian Tuscan Grands Prix for example in which we didnt report so much information about their origin name only because that things come from people interview.--Island92 (talk) 18:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Houkje Gerrits Bouma
Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 20:55, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Chamberlain, Ontario
Hi there. I have a question about this edit. You removed the coordinates, yet somehow the article knows what coordinates to use? Where does it get the coordinates? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:24, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . Template:Coord takes the coordinates by default from Wikidata. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for La Cloche Provincial Park
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These templates are for my alternate timeline scenario
Since you don't let me made these infoboxes on my talk page, then I have to switch to some other sites such as Alternate History Fandom.SgtRL-3 (talk) 06:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * (comment of a page watcher) see HOAX. There's no such country as Arendale, so please don't create hoax articles and hoax templates. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:02, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, User:JWilz12345 is right. WP is not your personal webpage or blog, which even applies to your own userpages. Thanks. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 23:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Toronto
Hello, P199. I have seen you deleted my edit on Toronto for the metro population. I appreciate you trying to make Wikipedia accurate, but I have to ask you if I can re-add the actual population which is 2.93 Million in 2017. Sorry for my bad edit, as I am only 8 years old. Thank you, DinosaurTrexXX33 (talk) 15:08, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks for your edits. The amount is accurate: it is the exact amount from the last census in 2016, and the statement in the article says so. We don't put estimates or guesses. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 15:17, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, P199, THe population was not a estimate. There was somebody else on my talk page also saying the same thing. It gets me ticked off all my edits are disrespected. DinosaurTrexXX33 (talk) 16:31, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Feb. 10, 2021 IPOPHL-Wikimedia dialogue on FOP
Hello P199! May I ask a question: are you going to attend at the upcoming IPOPHL-Wikimedia regarding FOP in the Philippines, on Feb. 10, 2021, 10 AM (UTC +8, Manila time)? See Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines for details, which also includes a link to the FB group equivalent of Wikipedia Tambayan. Though I may not personally attend due to school and personal reasons, several Filipino Wikipedians are going to attend. Non-Filipino Wikimedians are also welcome. I hope for your response as soon as possible. Thank you :-) JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 06:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi JWilz12345. Thanks for letting me know but I won't attend. This is not something I am involved in. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Stack effect
Thanks for the revert. I inadvertently edited an old version. --SimoneD89 (talk) 16:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi I figured that. I updated the template as you intended. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 16:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Is this RS?
Hi P199. Is https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/Copyright-Law-of-the-PRC-(2021-Version)/ a good source for Freedom of panorama? At Commons it has been discussed that Chinese FOP has now expanded further to include public indoor works (the "outdoor" wording was removed). This new amendment took effect on June 1, 2021. So far the 2020 version of the Chinese copyright law is not yet available on WIPO. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi JWilz12345. Never heard of this website, don't know anything about it. But a quick read shows that is sort of a wiki (which fails as a RS): "China Law Translate is an Interactive, Cooperative Project. Users can alter any text on the site except for the original language/original text. You don’t even need to register." But this doesn't involve user-generated content, merely user translations. So it depends on how accurate the translations are. And I really don't know its reputation in this regard. The right place to ask is Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

File:UPboble.jpg
Is File:UPboble.jpg an originally freely-licensed file that was morphed into fair use sometime later? The upload log seems to indicate also that a user made an unauthorized overwriting of the file by overwriting it with a probable copyvio image. See also.

I'm only referring to the first version of the file by. I'm planning to add this to my userspace User:JWilz12345/PHL photos FOP where I collect those that can be transferred to Commons (or for deleted ones, those that I may request for undeletion and afterwards transfer to Commons) once FOP officially exists here. Thanks for the response in advance. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I am not an admin here at en.wp, so I can't see it. Sorry. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 12:27, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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Surigao City Mayors
Good Day

I would just like to ask if was it necessary to remove the Table of Surigao City Mayors that I made. I am fairly new to editing Wikipedia so any advice will help.

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizard012020 (talk • contribs) 22:50, September 6, 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks for your efforts to improve the article with info about the mayors. But I did not remove the table, but moved it to its proper section and subsection: Local government / List of former city mayors. Note that there already was a list of mayors, so I combined the table with the list. Please get familiar with the editing standards at WP. If you ever need any editing tips, let me know. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 12:39, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

My regrets regarding Orani article title
Hello P199. Perhaps almost a year has passed since my request to move Orani, Bataan to its plain name. But now, I am finding the current title unsuitable and too ambiguous as Orani is also the name of an Italian city/town (comuni) and also a village in Ukraine that doesn't have enwiki article yet (but has articles in Ukrainian wiki and rus-wiki, as per the disambiguation page). To sum up, I feel that I shouldn't have requested move of Orani as it is not a truly uniquely-named town. I don't know if I will request its return to its old name as I was the requestor of that RM last year (and I don't know if policy allows the very same nominator to conduct RM's in cases like this). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 18:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is a policy against that. Just swallow your pride. ;-) But before you do that, I checked the page view statistics. Orani, Bataan is the overwhelming primary topic (2341 views compared to 379 for the Italian town). We can leave it as is for now. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:18, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Where should I write my first article
Hello,

I'm new here in Wikipedia. Hope I can ask questions to my co-users. I'd like to ask if you can suggest where should I publish my first article. Would it can more chance of getting approved if I write it on my sandbox.

Thank you so much Charismamata (talk) 21:48, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Yes, don't hesitate to ask me questions. And yes, using your sandbox is a great place to draft your new article before moving it over to mainspace. For editing guidelines, see the links in my welcome message on your talk page, or go to WP:Teahouse, a resource for new comers. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 02:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate your response. This would help me a lot. Charismamata (talk) 06:16, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Michipicoten Provincial Park
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DYK nomination of Temagami River
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DYK nomination of Steel River (Ontario)
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DYK for Abitibi-De-Troyes Provincial Park
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DYK for Steel River (Ontario)
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DYK for Temagami River
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DYK for White River (Ontario)
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A barnstar for you!
thank you for appreciating my efforts. I'll work on some more in 2022. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for White Lake Provincial Park (Ontario)
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Formula One Grand Prix
Please, do not remove the section at all. Rather, call it "Title sponsors" if the race had a title sponsor. Now, you have to do this job for each Formula One Grand Prix articles. Template:Formula One Grands Prix helps.--Island92 (talk) 17:02, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi It is good that you care a lot about WP. But this was already discussed as per my link, a discussion that had a clear consensus. You're welcome to open another central discussion again if you think there is more to add. Also, consistency is not an excuse for adding pointless and misleading info. Regards, --  P 1 9 9   ✉ 17:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And yes, if there is a title sponsor or notable change in branding, I have kept the section. But I can't do every GP article at the same time. I'll need 2 or 3 days to go through it. Until then, it might be inconsistent. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 17:11, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, basing on the template, for the time being I put each article (current and returning line) on the same level (only when the Grand Prix did have a title sponsor).--Island92 (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, please do not remove entire image galleries from articles about places as that is where they are normally included even in featured articles. If the image gallery is too large it is preferable to trim it to a smaller size and/ or move images to other parts of the article but just deleting it is disruptive, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 05:02, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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Rivière du Loup (Bas-Saint-Laurent)
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DYK for Obabika River Provincial Park
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WP:RFPP
Please consider using WP:AIV for issues with single IPs. Protection isn't a good option for issues with single users or IPs. OhNo itsJamie Talk 15:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. After more than 16 years on WP, still learning... --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 15:54, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ha, same here! Thanks, OhNo itsJamie  Talk 15:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * actually, multiple IP addresses are used or involved. See page history. Regards, --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 15:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
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Arbitration
 * Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
 * An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

"Stack effect" or "the stack effect"?
Hi P199, I noticed you recently undid an edit of mine in Stack effect. I've started a discussion: Talk:Stack effect —Bkell (talk) 14:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 June 2022
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Re: Canada census template
Well, that's annoying! The spreadsheet I have with the data makes it easy to change which number I use; future edits will use the correct number. I will go back and update everything through to Saugeen Shores, but probably not until the median household income data is available. Thanks for catching this! Tom pw (talk) 20:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022
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Arbitration
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 * is your name dharan - you put a smiley face :) on province 1 nepal on the climate section.
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Technical news
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Arbitration
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Precious anniversary
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 * An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

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 * The WMF is looking into making a Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the questions provided. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.

Arbitration
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 * The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

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 * Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.

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Disambiguation link notification for September 17
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited English River (Ontario), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Hudson's Bay.

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Copyright problem on West English River Provincial Park
Content you added to the above article appears to have been copied from https://www.ontario.ca/page/west-english-river-provincial-park-management-statement, which is not released under a compatible license. Copying text directly from a source is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, some content had to be removed and I paraphrased some. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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September music
Thank you for nice DYK reviewing! - music to explore - the new Casals Forum for chamber music is just wonderful. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
 * Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

Technical news
 * The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
 * A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
 * The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

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 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
 * You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
 * An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
 * Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:43, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for East English River Provincial Park
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Solace Provincial Park
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The Signpost: 31 October 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

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Guideline and policy news
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 * An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections.  and  are reserve commissioners.

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 * The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
 * You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
 * Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like or.

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
 * The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
 * An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

Technical news
 * A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget.

Arbitration
 * Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
 * The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
 * A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add  to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Kopka River
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