User talk:Cirt/Archive 22

Gothel
Hi! I would just like to thank you so much for taking the time to review my Mother Gothel article.--Changedforbetter (talk) 06:02, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, it may take me a little while to get to it but I'll keep you posted on my progress. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 07:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be taking any action here, and will instead respectfully defer to the established processes by the Wikipedia community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over six (6) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Voyage au pays des nouveaux gourous listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Voyage au pays des nouveaux gourous. Since you had some involvement with the Voyage au pays des nouveaux gourous redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Tgeairn (talk) 21:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * (The usual notification) Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 21:38, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:RFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over four (4) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:40, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Nice comment about my quality improvement project efforts on Wikipedia
"I completely agree that both your article quality and work in general here lately at EN are superb." by Tgeairn. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Cult Awareness and Information Centre for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cult Awareness and Information Centre is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Cult Awareness and Information Centre until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tgeairn (talk) 10:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:AFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over four (4) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, and understood. I am aware that it may be annoying receiving these notifications, but obviously I must continue to notify page creators when nominating an article. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 12:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I still thank you for the notification,, it is most interesting reading, but please understand my level of article quality these days in pages I use for Quality improvement projects is a bit higher than it was those years ago. For example, the WP:FA quality page, Freedom for the Thought That We Hate. Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:45, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Once I wandered into this whole NRM world I went and "checked you out" so-to-speak. I completely agree that both your article quality and work in general here lately at EN are superb. Tgeairn (talk) 12:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words,, I really appreciate that! I encourage you to read through some of my successful Quality improvement projects related to the general topic of freedom of speech. Freedom for the Thought That We Hate is a good example, and I highly recommend you read the book as well. Let me know what you think of the book. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * "I completely agree that both your article quality and work in general here lately at EN are superb." = nicest thing somebody's said about me on Wikipedia in a while, thanks again, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:40, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Some days we all need a good word! FYI, I picked up the Kindle edition of Freedom for the Thought That We Hate. I didn't get a chance to read it on the flight (work, work, work), but it's now in the queue. Tgeairn (talk) 21:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on this RfC
Hello Cirt, because you participated in the AfD here, you are being asked to comment on the RfC regarding that article and others.

The RfC the link is here.

The question is:

Should we keep these newly created separate country articles about the Ebola epidemic?


 * 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Guinea
 * 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia
 * 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Sierra Leone
 * 2014 Ebola virus case in the United States

Your participation is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

SW3 5DL (talk) 22:14, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Commented there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:36, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

GA candidates to review
I will review these articles for WP:GA candidacy that were nominated through the WP:GAN process. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 11:56, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Paxata
 * 2) Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology
 * 3) Impedance analogy
 * 4) Indoor-outdoor thermometer
 * 5) Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle
 * Reviewed Paxata -- Unfortunately not GA at this time. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Intelligent Systems for Molecular Biology as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:32, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Added two more to list for review, Indoor-outdoor thermometer and Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Impedance analogy as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Doing next two in increments. Did an image review and also a stability review for both articles Indoor-outdoor thermometer and Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle, next on to rest of review for those two. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:00, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Indoor-outdoor thermometer. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Placed Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle as GA on Hold. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:56, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Ship's chronometer from HMS Beagle as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:07, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Mark Sirkin for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mark Sirkin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Mark Sirkin until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tgeairn (talk) 19:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:AFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over seven (7) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Understood... Thanks (as always) for the response. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 19:31, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome,, I feel the replies noting my intention of non-participation in such discussions are appropriate both for cordial discord and documentation purposes. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:39, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Next round GA candidates to review
I will review these articles for WP:GA candidacy that were nominated through the WP:GAN process. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:23, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Fun Home (musical) GA onhold.svg
 * 2) Circus Juventas
 * 3) Mother Gothel
 * 4) The Philaletheis Society
 * 5) Salman Khan
 * 6) Suriya
 * 7) Gary Cooper
 * 8) Katrina Kaif
 * 9) Emily Ratajkowski
 * 10) Nipo T. Strongheart
 * Fun Home (musical) placed as GA on Hold. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:47, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * For Circus Juventas, asked nominator at Talk:Circus Juventas/GA1 to expand lede intro sect. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Mother Gothel as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Nipo T. Strongheart to above list. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also added The Philaletheis Society. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Posted query about stability of Gary Cooper article to nominator and at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Circus Juventas as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:24, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed The Philaletheis Society as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added to review Salman Khan and Suriya to above list. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Left query for nominator on review subpage for Nipo T. Strongheart. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've closed the nomination for Gary Cooper as not GA at this time, unfortunately, due to stability issues and ongoing conflicts between multiple editors. I left comments and diffs at Talk:Gary Cooper/GA1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've closed the nomination for Salman Khan as not GA at this time, unfortunately, due to sourcing issues related to unreferenced chunks of material in a WP:BLP page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've closed the nomination for Suriya as not GA at this time, unfortunately, due to sourcing issues related to unreferenced chunks of material in a WP:BLP page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:45, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Marked to review next Katrina Kaif and Emily Ratajkowski. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My apologies,, but I didn't realize I can't do the review for Nipo T. Strongheart as it's under a WikiProject related to a new religious movement. I didn't see that earlier and just thought it was predominantly related to the subsection under which I found the nomination, which was Media and drama. Please ask for a different GA Reviewer to take over. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Updated GA Review notes

 * 1) Fun Home (musical)
 * 2) Katrina Kaif
 * 3) Emily Ratajkowski
 * 4) Arnaud Tsamere
 * Fun Home (musical) currently as GA on Hold. Pending reviews for Katrina Kaif and Emily Ratajkowski. Not doing any other GA Reviews at this time, but might pick up other different ones later. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've worked on Fun Home and posted a preliminary response on the GAR page. Please let me know whether more work is required for the article to pass. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:07, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Fun Home (musical) passed as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 08:46, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Closed Katrina Kaif as not GA at this time. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 14:14, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added to pending reviews: Arnaud Tsamere. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Image review for Emily Ratajkowski, next on to Stability review. Posted questions about stability of Emily Ratajkowski to the GA nominator. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Stability review for Arnaud Tsamere, next on to image review. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Image review for Arnaud Tsamere, next on to rest of review. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Stability review for Emily Ratajkowski, next on to rest of review. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:59, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * To do first: Rest of GA Review for Emily Ratajkowski, then rest of review for Arnaud Tsamere. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed article Emily Ratajkowski as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Arnaud Tsamere as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Parliamentary Monitoring Services

 * Thanks very much, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Bill Goldberg (social worker) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bill Goldberg (social worker) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bill Goldberg (social worker) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Drmies (talk) 03:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:AFD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over six (6) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:30, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Relaxing with two baby chickens

 * I understand, Cirt--you know the notification is automatic. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 03:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I know you understand, . I am taking it easy, thank you. I hope you are taking it easy as well. I had a great time today hanging out with friends and doing some exercise and enjoyed the sunset. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:43, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Alabama, Cirt: we hit close to 90 degrees today. I was working on a chicken coop and had to change into shorts. We have two baby chickens and it's very relaxing to play with them. Best, Drmies (talk) 03:47, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Most interesting,, I recently had the opportunity to work on an organic farm and experienced fertilization using chicken feces, cow manure, and fish guts. Most interesting times. I'm glad you had a relaxing time today as well. I hope you're drinking enough water? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well,, I hope you continue to enjoy and gain relaxation from the two baby chickens. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:10, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Deanna Merryman
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Deanna Merryman you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jonas Vinther -- Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, I've put a lot of effort into research on this one and I appreciate it. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Hitachi Magic Wand

 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Cirt, I've had to put this on hold because my usual ISP is range-blocked and I cannot edit normally. Feel free to strike my acceptance if this exceeds 7 days. See my talk page for more. cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've been granted block-exemption and can continue the copy-edit later tonight. Thanks for your support Cirt, it's appreciated. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 18:03, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're most welcome,, I meant it and I wish you the best of luck, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Deanna Merryman
The article Deanna Merryman you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Deanna Merryman for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jonas Vinther -- Jonas Vinther (talk) 16:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, I appreciated your review! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No problemo. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 16:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Template:LandmarkForum listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:LandmarkForum. Since you had some involvement with the Template:LandmarkForum redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Tgeairn (talk) 01:26, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * More of the usual standard notification. I note that you have not edited the redirect under discussion in over six years. Thanks! Tgeairn (talk) 01:27, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion discussion, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:RFD process as determined by the community. Thank you for noting that the last time I edited that page was over six (6) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:29, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration case request
Hi Cirt, just letting you know you've been mentioned in this arbitration case request. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:10, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you're telling me this,, as I'm not allowed to comment there? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 11:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ArbCom has held for a while that it is an allowable exception per WP:BANEX to defend yourself. If you feel that you need to defend yourself but you'd rather not do so publicly you can always send the Committee an email. It was a more a message just to let you know that you'd be mentioned and/or discussed. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:34, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I've been informed by ArbCom that I'm not a party to the case so I won't defend myself at this point in time and will continue instead to focus on other, unrelated, Quality improvement projects. Hopefully that will be okay. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:41, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * (watching) Quality improvement projects rings my bell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


 * (Stalking.) Can I pitch a quality improvement idea to you? (Hi Gerda.) --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 12:58, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You who? Me? my talk. Project: related talk (general + TFA - missed - infobox). Or Cirt? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Cirt mentioned quality improvement so I asked him, but I'd appreciate your thoughts too, Gerda. I don't understand "Project: related talk (general + TFA - missed - infobox)." That's an invitation to all at WikiProject Quality Article Improvement, too. I'd be very grateful for all of your input. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 13:11, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The project has subpages, everybody is free to comment on their talk, general + TFA - missed - infobox. Only project members of the cabal of outcasts should change the project pages ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah. Thanks. OK. I've started one at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 13:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Not My Life
Hi Cirt,

I hope life has been going well with you since I last heard from you. I have finally found time to start another FAC, and it is for Not My Life. I have greatly appreciated your reviews in my past FACs, and I would be grateful for any comments you might be willing to provide in this one.

Neelix (talk) 16:01, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, but I simply don't have the time right now with other IRL stuff going on, but I wish you the best of luck, it sure looks like a most interesting article. If I have some time I may try to check back later. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries; I understand that life can get busy. Thanks for the encouragement. I hope that life is going well with you throughout all the busy-ness. Neelix (talk) 02:42, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm pretty good, just need a tad bit more sleep lately. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:56, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Note to self: Interesting articles to read about Freedom of speech


Note to self: Interesting articles to read.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:39, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Than you to Cambalachero
Thank you,, for your most kind comments about my recent Quality improvement projects listed at User:Cirt/Contributions. Your words are truly most appreciated and inspirational. Thanks again, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:06, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

User:Cirt/Gutting
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your user subpage at User:Cirt/Gutting may not meet Wikipedia's user page guideline&#32;because it is a clear and unambiguous violation of WP:AGF and a personal attack on contributors. If you believe that your user page does not violate our guideline, please leave a note on this page. Alternatively you may add  to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it, or you can simply edit the page so that it meets Wikipedia's user page guideline. Thank you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * , I made very careful care not to refer to any individual users. If you have suggestions on how to improve my personal user space essay, please let me know, I'd be happy to hear any suggestions short of deletion of this user essay about deletion. Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I can see no possible improvement short of deletion - it is based entirely around premises which run contrary to WP:AGF. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:55, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * , you can't suggest even one suggestion to improve it? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:56, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Not an attack. We WP:AGF as a default but if subsequent behavior indicates an intention to disrupt then we're not required to stick our heads in the sand. --Neil N  talk to me 19:00, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, I agree with your comment. Also, it's kinda odd that the user above started out this templated-message with a link to the  Welcoming committee and the message, "Welcome to Wikipedia", when at least I thought it was clear from my userpage that I've helped contribute to sixteen (16) Featured Articles. Just struck me as sort of strange, is all. Oh well. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:10, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I found the page on it, at WP:Don't template the regulars. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:39, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

talkback
at my place NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:47, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

deletion discussion, in light of your essay
so this is a strange discussion we are having. I and Lesser have looked and there are no independent sources with which to build a Wikipedia article. Why are you not responding to that? (maybe you don't believe us, maybe you have a different idea of the kind of sources one needs.... I don't know)  Your essay that is critical of "gutting" is starting to make sense now, but in a way that is troubling to me....  can you help me understand where you are coming from, and why you are not answering direct questions? Those are two "levels" of questions. I really do want to understand where you are coming from (really I do) but I am troubled that you are not answering direct questions. I am wondering if these two levels are not somehow connected. But one can never reach consensus without honest dialog, right? If you are not interested in the conversation, I would understand, but I wanted to try. Jytdog (talk) 01:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi,, I thank you for reaching out to me, but I must admit it feels like I'm being tag-teamed and badgered at that particular AFD. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i have never interacted with lesser before. we just seem to have the same perspective on this particular issue. but as you will! good luck. Jytdog (talk) 01:12, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I responded with another comment at the AFD, diff. That may explain how I feel a little bit better., I also wish to impress upon you something you may not know about my past Quality improvement history, which is that I indeed have been successful on multiple occasions in bringing articles that others attempted to get deleted at AFD, to higher levels of quality including WP:GA, and in multiple cases, to WP:FA quality. Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:14, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * this is very upsetting. done here. Jytdog (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Why is it upsetting? Please, I don't mean to upset anyone. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My attempt at explaining from perspective of WP:WIAGA good article criteria, diff. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:22, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

ANI notice about Ebola articles from SW3 5DL
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic HERE. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SW3 5DL (talk • contribs)
 * Thank you, commented there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * diff. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Three to review for GA from Culture, sociology and psychology

 * 1) Team effectiveness
 * 2) Florian Znaniecki
 * 3) Boobrie

I will review these three articles for GA candidacy from sub-topic Culture, sociology and psychology. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: Posted Stability review for Team effectiveness, Florian Znaniecki, and Boobrie. Next, on to Image review for each. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Left Image review for Team effectiveness, awaiting response from nominator. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Posted Image review for Florian Znaniecki, awaiting response from nominator. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Image review for Boobrie, no pending issues with image use on that one. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:07, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Left notes on user talk pages for nominators of Team effectiveness and Florian Znaniecki, that I'm awaiting their responses at the GA Review subpages for regarding the Image review. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * GA nominators responded well at Team effectiveness and Florian Znaniecki, will take another look at both soon. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:46, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: Team effectiveness ready for full review, Florian Znaniecki has unaddressed issues with its WP:LEAD sect, waiting for nominator to respond to those. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: Team effectiveness passed as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:07, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: Florian Znaniecki looks much better in the WP:LEAD sect, will do rest of review next. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Florian Znaniecki as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Boobrie as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:06, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hitachi Magic Wand
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hitachi Magic Wand you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kaciemonster -- Kaciemonster (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Time for a break
Time for a break and some exercise and some time to breathe in the fresh air among good company with friends outdoors. :)

Be back later in a few hours to contemplate other Quality improvement projects and perhaps some future WP:FA projects.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hitachi Magic Wand
The article Hitachi Magic Wand you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hitachi Magic Wand for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kaciemonster -- Kaciemonster (talk) 03:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, I thoroughly enjoyed your GA Review. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I had a great time reviewing it, nice job on the article :) Kaciemonster (talk) 03:27, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:28, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

National Operation Anti-Vivisection
new article, written by a WP:SPA. Thoughts on delete v keep? thanks~ Jytdog (talk) 17:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look into it. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * , I've looked at the lack of source coverage and nominated it for consideration at WP:AFD. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:23, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * interesting. thanks for replying! Jytdog (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * My pleasure,, and thanks for alerting me to this. I'm glad you find it interesting. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i really had no idea what you would think of it, much less do. it is interesting to me. i don't know much about WP culture around article deletion/retention, and observing is a great way to learn.  so thanks.Jytdog (talk) 19:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm glad my actions surprised you, it's nice to know I've broken the mold regarding some of your assumptions and/or preconceived notions about me, . :) I've posted a couple new AFDs to WT:MED. Feel free to participate at those, if you wish. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i had no fucking preconceptions about you. what opinion i have of you has been informed entirely by our interactions.  some of which has been delightful, some of which still confuses me.  this is what it means to be human.Jytdog (talk) 19:34, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well,, I'm glad my later actions have broken the mold of your opinion about me from my prior actions. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:35, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, that sounds like a good approach,, I wish you well. I think we mostly agree on the importance of science, the scientific method, and scientific skepticism. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I went through all the organizations listed at Template:Animal testing end and didn't see any others worth sending to WP:AFD. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I did too and thought the same. Jytdog (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh, maybe there's hope for us,, after all! :P &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:13, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * indeed! Jytdog (talk) 20:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Cirt: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  NorthAmerica1000 05:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * Thanks very much,, and to you as well! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 08:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! NorthAmerica1000 08:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Quarter Million Award

 * Thank you,, I really appreciate this. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!


Happy Halloween!

Hello Cirt: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!   –  – Davey 2010  •  (talk)  17:54, 27 October 2014 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
 * Thanks very much,, much appreciated. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:09, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're more than welcome Cirt :), Have a nice day, Regards, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  19:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Five Star Urgent Care - Considered for Deletion?
Hi Cirt, I'm new to Wikipedia and authored the article for "Five Star Urgent Care" which you have marked as "considered for deletion." Can you please advise me on how I can improve this article to prevent it from being deleted? Thank you. 19!dea$ (talk) 13:48, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

"Gutting" an article during deletion discussion

 * User:Cirt/Gutting

I've created an essay on Gutting an article during deletion discussion.

You may find it interesting reading at: User:Cirt/Gutting.

Cheers,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

R U Professional peer review
I've started a peer review for the WP:GA quality article, R U Professional.

Comments to help further improve quality would be appreciated, at Peer review/R U Professional/archive1.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * May try to find some time to leave a few helpful notes at some other peer review to pitch in. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:43, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


 * 1) Update: Left peer review comments for Peer review/Emily Ratajkowski/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 14:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Commented at Peer review/2008 Summer Olympics/archive2. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Added comments to Peer review/Beau Ideal/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Commented at Peer review/Jefferson–Hemings controversy/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:11, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Left comments at Peer review/John Johnson (footballer)/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:23, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Commented at Peer review/Peter Aduja/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) Left query at Peer review/Meineke Car Care Center/archive1, this one appears to be resolved per comments at the article's talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:15, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) Update: Left peer review comments for Peer review/Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:29, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 9) Left several comments at Peer review/Meg White/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 10) Gave review at Peer review/Maribojoc Church/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:27, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Nominated for GA Fuck It, We'll Do It Live
I've nominated the article Fuck It, We'll Do It Live for Good Article quality candidacy, listed under Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I would like to be able to review some other music albums GA candidates, just not sure I'll have time, at least in the immediate future. Although, maybe one or two here and there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:32, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Healthscope
Hello, I have attempted to make edits to amend the issues with this page. Can you please review for me? This is my first post edit, don't want this page to be deleted. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margiejape (talk • contribs) 01:50, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

My next new article topic
Mulling over my next new article creation project.

Debating whether to create a new article related to freedom of speech or science.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Might actually end up doing something to improve an existing article related to both WP:Freedom of speech and WP:GGTF. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:07, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

.oga vs. .ogg?
I notice when you corrected the filename for the spoken word version of Fuck, you changed the extension from .ogg to .oga. The same thing happened to File:En-us-Oligomer.oga when I requested that that be moved. Should I be saving these as .oga files? Can you point me in the direction of something as to why this is done? 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 19:17, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about editing your comment
Cirt, sorry about editing your comment. I honestly wasn't thinking that it was a comment, but that it was a sort of sub heading to the discussion. I have never edited anyone's comment before, ever. As you noticed, I only updated that one word. Nice article by the way, and as you can see, I am all for it being on the main page. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 02:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I see we were writing on each other's page at the same time! Ha. No, I'm NOT going to ask him if I can edit his comment; I'm dropping now. BTW, that is so great that you got permission from the publisher to use their book cover; I have never seen that before. This will really add impact when this appears on the main page. See you around. Prhartcom (talk) 02:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!
I was just thinking about one article if it had never been discusses and you cleared it for me in a few minutes! What a coincidence... Regards. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Re:Can we get a secondary source
Oh I'm not active again, I just pop up here and there. I had a huge 5 year run of editing and I pretty much burned myself out... That, and I had achieved most of what I'd wanted to. So I've been semi-retired and every now and then I check one the articles I helped perfect, only to be shocked and how much it's fallen.

Yes, I do have the DVD for that episode and I'm almost positive it's mentioned. I'm quite surprised that the line isn't mentioned in the article for the episode (though it could be that the line is talked about in the commentary for a different episode). I'll try to give it a listen on Tuesday. -- Scorpion 0422  02:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

re Think of the children
No, sorry, but it doesn't work like that. It's {{WP:BRD]] not WP:BDR. The onus is on the editor proposing the changes to make her case. It's important! I think if instead of WP:BRD we had the policy "changes are assumed to be acceptable, the onus is on the person wanting to reject the change to make his case" we would have a very different, and not necessarily better, encyclopedia.

So let's not edit war over this. That is frowned upon here. I know you will do the right thing and restore the article to its previous state and make the case for any changes on the article talk page. I've opened a thread just for this purpose. This would, I think, be the collegial thing to do, and we can discuss this like reasonable people, I hope. Herostratus (talk) 04:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * {{User|Herostratus}}, please don't violate site policy of WP:No original research (as you did twice now at DIFF 1 and DIFF 2), and please engage in discussion at the article's talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:45, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Time for a break
Time for a break to de-stress. :) Be back later to hopefully come back to some Quality improvement projects. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:00, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Children, thinking of
Would love to help my friend, but I am spending all my time literally 'thinking of the children' as a trainee primary (elementary) school teacher. Rest assured I agree that the changes you have made represent a substantial improvement and should be preserved. Good luck. Gran2 20:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Comments
If you want to complain, then go to ANI. I don't have the time to do anything right now and I have been criticized in the past for taking administrative measures against TFAR contributors, so find someone else if really necessary, thanks. And perhaps not recycling old grudges would help. BencherliteTalk 17:15, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied at Bencherlite talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Women free speech activists, possible quality improvement projects
I just want to note something here: I'll try to compile here, potential quality improvement projects, that are similar to above: related to both women and freedom of speech. I'll start with other women from Category:Free speech activists. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:38, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Thanks to, I was able to look through Category:Free speech activists.
 * 2) Back when the late Adrianne Wadewitz was discussing the Gender bias on Wikipedia in the media, I was inspired and decided to try to improve in quality an article that was both related to women and one of my topics of interest, freedom of speech.
 * 3) So thanks to, I looked through the articles at Category:Free speech activists for one on a woman that was deceased (and would therefore be less likely to have new information develop during the course of her life, and I could find a relatively full corpus of existing sources to improve the quality of the article).
 * 4) I chose the article Judith Krug.
 * 5) This was the state of that article before my quality improvement project began.
 * 6) I successfully improved the article to Good Article quality, see this version as promoted to GA.
 * I agree with the initiative of the Gender gap task force and the fact that there is indeed a Gender bias on Wikipedia.
 * But, like Judith Krug, I also believe that women can be strong supporters of freedom of speech, as she was during her lifetime.

Possible quality improvement projects -- related to both women and freedom of speech:
 * Looking for deceased women from Category:Free speech activists:

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Zoia Horn - note: recently deceased, dovetails with history relating to successful WP:GA quality improvement on Judith Krug, might be able to find similar research sources.
 * 2) Ida Craddock
 * 3) Lena Morrow Lewis
 * 4) Kitty Marion
 * 5) Harriet Pilpel
 * 6) Margaret Sanger - note: already WP:GA, maybe could take to WP:FA with others helping in collaborative project.
 * 7) Ayşe Nur Zarakolu
 * 8) Barbara Gittings
 * 9) Clara Breed
 * Perhaps or  would like to help collaborate on one of these Quality improvement projects to improve an article from Category:Free speech activists on a deceased woman who was a supporter of freedom of speech. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:48, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Of the above the one most directly related to freedom of speech is Zoia Horn. I think I'll begin some preliminary research and minor improvements to that article. If or  or anyone else from WP:GGTF wishes to help out in a collaborative initiative, that'd be most appreciated. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added two to above list that could be future potential Quality improvement projects: Barbara Gittings and Clara Breed. More generally related to human rights than to freedom of speech specifically, but articles on fascinating deceased female librarians. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Request image
Threw File:Speech bubble - "Won't somebody please think of the children?!".svg together, if you'd still like to use it - feel free to suggest or make any changes to it :) ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 02:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Think of the Children
Do you still want me to listen to the commentary? The first thing I can say is that Helen Lovejoy's use of the phrase is actually overstated. Her first use of it came in season 7 in Much Apu About Nothing (and she said it a few times there), and she said it a few times after that. I can't recall precisely which other episodes it was used in, but I know Moe used it once. -- Scorpion 0422  15:11, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Her first use of the phrase is "Think of the children!" and it starts at roughly 4:23 into the episode. The next use is the same thing and it's at about 5:51. At 6:21 she says "Oh won't somebody please think of the children.

Here's the transcript of the commentary for the relevant parts.


 * Matt Groening: "You guys [Josh Weinstein and Bill Oakley] loved the think of the children. That's your little catchphrase."
 * Bill Oakley: "I'd like to point out that that was only ever used in this episode. [Not true] But the - and the thing is - watching this episode, I don't think it's clear what the intent of that was. The intent is that in every political debate there's some imbecile who's going 'think of the children' even when the children have nothing to do with the debate. And it often derails the debate because you have to think of the children and really, quite frankly, a lot of things aren't intended for children or children have no bearing on."
 * That's the most relevant bit, they talk a bit more about children, this is what David Cohen says after that.
 * David X. Cohen: "Yes, I remember Bill used to give this diatribe regularly at The Simpsons about how everything in life had to be watered down for children and adults couldn't have any entertainment but of course now you have two kids that you didn't have then."
 * And there's a few more things, but nothing really useable.

She says it again in Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment. It's "Oh, won't somebody please think of the children." There are others as well, like I said, I think Moe says it at some point, possibly in Natural Born Kissers. -- Scorpion 0422  15:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

In-text attribution
Hi Cirt,

From your user page, it appears that you have quite a bit of experience in dealing with FAs, so I am assuming you are also fairly well-versed in Wikipedia policy/guidelines. I am currently involved in a discussion on another article's talk page about the use of in-text attribution in articles, especially when the relevant author or article being attributed is cited as a source. This is quite similar to what I discussed at Talk:Cartman Gets an Anal Probe. I and another editor feel that both an in-text attribution and cited source are needed in certain cases because paraphrasing is being used to express the ideas/opinions of a particular author/article regarding the subject matter; Other editors feel that a only citation is needed and that an in-text attribution is basically nothing more than "a primary source talking about itself", and thus is a violation of Wikipedia policy. Please understand that I'm not trying to canvas or forum shop. I just figured that someone with your experience in dealing with high-quality articles might be able to provide some perspective that will help us reach a consensus that is acceptable to all involved. It may actually be in this particular case that my argument is faulty, but the opposing arguments, as presented so far, do not lead me to think that is the case. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:48, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Notification of a TFA nomination
In the past, there have been requests that discussions about potentially controversial TFAs are brought to the attention of more than just those who have WP:TFAR on their watchlist. With that in mind: Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties has been nominated for an appearance as Today's Featured Article. If you have any views, please comment at Today's featured article/requests. Thank you. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. I hope you don't mind that I've edited your notification at Talk:Main Page to point the link directly to the discussion section (feel free to revert if you're not okay with it). Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 00:45, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's fine, I just used the same formatting as a prior notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Music candidate GA reviews
I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:55, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Permanent Record: Al in the Box
 * 2) Destiny's Child Video Anthology
 * Update: Posted Stability review for Permanent Record: Al in the Box and Destiny's Child Video Anthology. Next, on to image review for each, then rest of review for each. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Image review for Permanent Record: Al in the Box. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Image review at Talk:Destiny's Child Video Anthology/GA1, and awaiting response from at that page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and fixed the image page myself. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Next up: Rest of reviews for Permanent Record: Al in the Box and Destiny's Child Video Anthology. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:23, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Permanent Record: Al in the Box as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Next up: Rest of review for Destiny's Child Video Anthology. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 06:05, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Destiny's Child Video Anthology as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Advice
As a fellow editor accused of "bludgeoning", I empathize with your frustration. But at this point, even I think that you're going too far (and that's a bad sign). Please try to take it down a notch (or, better yet, two or three notches). Don't use replies as launchpads for tangentially relevant side discussions. When Bencherlite shuts down a line of questioning, don't respond by pestering him about it, brainstorming alternatives, and dragging out the exchanges with further pestering. Just let it go. You're becoming your own worst enemy. —David Levy 01:20, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Understood, good points all. I'll take your advice. Thank you. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:21, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome message
Hello there. For the moment, in my nature of an "opportunistic" editor (that is, I generally just make edits when I see something that I believe are flagrantly "wrong" in areas where I've gathered some knowledge"), I am not particularly prone to making a formal user page. There's also the fact that there are a few areas where I disagree on the general concensus of what establishes an ideal source (to put it in casual terms: every now and then you run into extremely well-documented blogs that provide excellent insight into an underground cultural phenomenon, but a poorly researched article will be preferred just because the author got paid to write it by an "established" magazine). I understand the underlying concerns of such policies, but as an active member of certain underground communities, I do strongly feel that overly-eager "outsiders" (not to sound elitist) can easily miss certain de facto standards. Alas, I did have an epiphany that Wikipedia isn't the only place out there that provides us with space for such documentation. Perhaps as time passes there will be a reconsideration of how certain things have shifted with time and the existence of new media (such as the obsolescence of placing weight on "professional" in fields that have always been subjective by nature).

But really, hope that didn't sound too edgy. For the few complaints I have, this place is ultimately a nice community dedicated to constantly improving. Cheers. 201.190.31.192 (talk) 01:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Think of the children
No, no ideas for better images, I'm afraid. It does seem like a tricky one. --McGeddon (talk) 20:35, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, another one!
what do you think about this new article? Traditional Chinese medicine Network Pharmacology nom for delete? Jytdog (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:11, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Nominating Bucko for DYK
I couldn't pick an interesting fact. I see you have known how to nominate the article. Why not nominating it yourself? --George Ho (talk) 06:37, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Album articles to review for GA
I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:54, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child
 * 2) Mandatory Fun
 * Update: Posted image reviews for both Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child and Mandatory Fun. Awaiting response from regarding a couple images at Mandatory Fun. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Mandatory Fun awaiting response from about Stability review question, and otherwise waiting flickr review at Commons for one image. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: For Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child and Mandatory Fun, both Stability review and Image review now done. Next, on to rest of reviews for each. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Mandatory Fun as GA, with a couple suggestions left for nominator in final review. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: I've asked to expand the lede intro sect for Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child a bit, awaiting response. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Passed Playlist: The Very Best of Destiny's Child as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:31, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Moen image
Don't you think it would go better by the text that praises her artwork? Where it is now it has no relation to the text and is sandwiching text between it and the quote box. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:31, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I liked it better on the left personally, but I've switched it back to the right. No worries, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:14, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean left vs right, I meant about having the image close to text talking about Moen. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 21:05, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, hopefully better now. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I guess I didn't read the quote box before, but now that I have... it reads more like advertising copy than something appropriate to an encyclopedia article. If you drop it, you'll be much more free with the image placement. Either way, I'd drop the quote box. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 22:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, removed quote box and moved image back to right align, better? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:47, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks good—I'm not much concerned about right vs left. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, either way would be fine with me. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Although you might want to use the quote in the body. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:08, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah it's already there in the Reception section. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Regarding my FA and GA nominations
I saw your comments about my lack of contributions on Saturday Night Live and G.I. Jeff, which is true. I simply thought they met the criteria for the statuses and I apologise for sort of glossing over that part. I'm new here, what would be an easy way to notify the top contributors to the articles? StewdioMACK (talk) 03:55, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied at User talk:StewdioMACK. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

New article on graphic novel Bucko
I've created a new article on graphic novel Bucko.
 * Bucko

Help or suggestions with additional secondary sources would be appreciated on the article's talk page, at Talk:Bucko.

Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

New article on viral video - From The Doctor to my son Thomas
I've created a new article on viral video From The Doctor to my son Thomas.
 * From The Doctor to my son Thomas

Help or suggestions with additional secondary sources would be appreciated on the article's talk page, at Talk:From The Doctor to my son Thomas.

Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:17, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Thanks very much,, most appreciated! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

SNL peer review
Hi there! I nominated Saturday Night Live for peer review at this link if you wanna leave any comments. Thanks, StewdioMACK (talk) 09:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll see about taking time to leave comments in a while. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:46, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I left a few comments at Peer review/Saturday Night Live/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: User talk:74.103.3.154
I was afraid something like that might have happened. Had a crash while editing just a section, just as I was about to save it. On recovery afterward, I saw that the session came back up and, seemingly too good to be true, it was exactly as I'd "left" it. And I clicked the save button. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.103.3.154 (talk • contribs)
 * Don't know what that's all about but okay. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:30, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Regarding NSONGS and AFD of Rihanna articles, please see here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(music)#WP:NSONG_needs_re-evaluating_and_re-wording — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin999 (talk • contribs)
 * Okay, will try to take a look a bit later. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:04, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: Commented. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lorna Goldberg


The article Lorna Goldberg has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No assertion of notability. Sourced only to personal and related websites.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Kitfoxxe (talk) 00:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. I won't be participating in this deletion procedure, and will instead respectfully defer to the consensus outcome from the WP:PROD process as determined by the community. Please also note that the last time I edited that page was over seven (7) years ago. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Problem user
He's ignored your warnings and I agree that the behaviour is disruptive, two weeks this time. Thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright thanks for the notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:36, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Three album articles to review
I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Number 1's (Destiny's Child album)
 * 2) Hydra (Within Temptation album)
 * 3) Janet Jackson (album)
 * Update: Added Image review and Stability review for Number 1's (Destiny's Child album). &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:07, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hydra (Within Temptation album) found unfortunately to be Not GA at this time. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Added Stability review and Image review for Janet Jackson (album). &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Passed Number 1's (Destiny's Child album) as GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:10, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Closed review of Janet Jackson (album) with promotion. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:43, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Today's Featured Article nomination
Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties has been nominated for an appearance as Today's Featured Article.

If you have any views, please comment at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties.

Thank you. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:55, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of From The Doctor to my son Thomas
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article From The Doctor to my son Thomas you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 11:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, most appreciated. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:36, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Taking a break for some exercise and fresh air
I'm taking a break for some exercise and fresh air. :)

Might be back later to see about some GA Reviewing.

We shall see,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well that was fun and refreshing. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Welcome message
Thank you for the welcome. However, I am actually an active Wikipedia contributor; I simply did not want to involve my account with this sensitive subject. It can often bring too much noise to me for it. - 64.235.72.185 (talk) 02:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Time for a fun break
Time for a fun break. :)

I'm off to meet up with some friends over some tasty spirits.

Cheers,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Back briefly, now out again for some contemplation and relaxation. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 09:34, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Article request
Hey, I saw that From The Doctor to my son Thomas got promoted: nice work. Since you're good at compiling sources, I was wondering if you could help me draft an article of an episode from the show Clarence. The episode is called "Neighborhood Grill", and it gained a lot of notoriety earlier this month (both in the United States and internationally) for its portrayal of a gay couple. Currently there's only one paragraph dedicated to it in the Clarence article, but seeing what you did with Thomas I think you could expand upon it easily. I can provide a plot summary if you wish. Thanks for considerin'. 23W 03:48, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, but I'm quite busy with other Quality improvement projects and other stuff in life at the moment. But I'd strongly suggest you consider resources for additional references such as WP:The Wikipedia Library and the WP:Reference desk. Hope that's helpful, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:49, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of From The Doctor to my son Thomas
The article From The Doctor to my son Thomas you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:From The Doctor to my son Thomas for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 16:23, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Date rape
I see that you are archiving discussions at the Date rape article. Don't archive the latest two discussions there; they are not resolved. Well, that merge discussion is not. Flyer22 (talk) 00:42, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied at user's talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks very much,, much appreciated! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, keep up the good work!!! gidonb (talk) 17:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
This wiki-kitten is here to say "the names of many articles you chose to improve are simply cool" :D Seriously, keep up the good work!

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC) 
 * Thanks very much,, most appreciated! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:25, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

fyi discussion on public HIV testing article
At Talk:Public HIV testing in the United States, there is ongoing discussion of re-focusing that article. You commented at Articles for deletion/Public HIV testing in the United States (which closed "no consensus"), and might be interested in commenting at the new discussion. All AFD commenters are being contacted now. -- do ncr  am  22:22, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I'll respectfully defer to community consensus. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:03, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Saptaswa Basu
Hello, I am a publicist from Bengal. I noticed that you have discussed and deleted Saptaswa Basu (page). I was not the creator of that page but I can confirm that he is a notable personality in Bengal and in the city of Kolkata. I have given here numerous more links to published articles about his works including Zeenews, Festival focus and other links. There are many other articles existing in wikipedia with just 3 or 4 links, with incorrect info too, but they are not facing this tag of deletion. You can see pages Mir Afsar Ali, Subhasree Ganguly etc where the references are not much strong too. On the contrary, now I have added many references to SAPTASWA BASU to make it a source for reliable info. To the truest of my knowledge, the page is not any kind of advertisement or promotion. Please look into the matter. I have requested some film personalities too to join wikipedia and support the article. I am a basic writer and would really appreciate your help in improving the article. I will be adding more reference links of current works too. Please check the page and approve it. I will be waiting for your response. Here are the additional links that I have given, which may compensate for the lesser number of link present earlier.

http://www.washingtonbanglaradio.com/content/62758511-interview-director-saptaswa-basu-shares-thoughts-pyschological-drama-thriller-forlo

http://119.82.71.49/thestatesman/story.aspx?id=5284&boxid=18587953&ed_date=2014-9-27&ed_code=820009&ed_page=19#.VCY6NEctXx8

http://www.ebela.in/paper/16-9-28@11@2014.html (Regional paper)

https://in.news.yahoo.com/lights-camera-action-183000316.html

https://www.academia.edu/2156551/Closing_Day_of_Imphal_International_Short_Film_Festival_2012

http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/bollywood/-the-forlorn-opens-manipur-s-first-international-film-fest_109542.html

http://www.festivalfocus.org/news.php?uid=1201

http://www.thestatesman.co.in/news/78972--I-ve-decided-to-have-little-dreams-and-move-on-.html

Some more links are present too, I will search and add once the page is functionalRoon100 (talk) 04:30, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Re:
Yes, I have already read the discussion. I have seen that there was an issue with the number of reference links or invalid links. That is why I have supplied with updated set of links which will prove that it is a reliable source of info and not any form of advert or promo. Like thousands other film personalities who work in the regional films, he may noto be notable worldwide but he is a famous personality in the state of Bengal. Kindly suggest me what should be done to restore the page. You can check all the links that I sent in the previous message. Please let me know and help me in this. Roon100 (talk) 04:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Reply
I have send this message to you and only to others who have participated in the discussion and deletion of the page. Firstly, I am a basic writer and I do not know the process of creating a sandbox article, that is the reason I asked for your help. And before that, I have been trying to restore the deleted page, and hence the communication with you. This is not Mr. Nolan's film that it will take repeated reading to understand. Please help me un-delete that page. Roon100 (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Message
yes I will surely do that. However, you are the one who discussed about "invalid links" and "non-notable" personality, that is the reason I needed to give you the links so that you can inform the admin who deleted the page to revert that action of deletion. That would have been the easiest way. But even when I requested repeatedly, you are in no mood to help me out, and that is the problem. So many incorrect articles exist on wiki with just 2 or 3 (invalid) references, but that page was the one which you choose to talk about. You can verify with ANYONE in Bengal or the Bengali film industry and know about his works. I won;t further message in your page but I would expect you to send a message to the admin to restore that page immediately Roon100 (talk) 05:03, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

I am not getting
I am not getting entertained messaging you. Please stop saying "read the above". Please stop it. Tell me what is the step to restore the article. Tell me that! Which will be really helpful. People are so much enthusiastic in destroying (deleting) things, and no one gives a hand of help in creating something. That should be the next Nolan film for sure. This time I AM REQUESTING YOU to stop saying the same thing and tell me how to restore the deleted page. Roon100 (talk) 05:09, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Sixth (6th) post from Roon100
Cool! Now my discussions are "violations of promise" and "lies". Where are you from, man?? You think I am a stupid liar kind of a person? I wouldn't have messaged if you had given me a good advice on "how to restore a deleted page". I am the one who has been messaging in a polite manner with requests from the very beginning and you are the one who is saying things like "IDIDNTHEARTHAT" and"FORUMSHOPPING". It's amazing that a page was deleted based on the advice of yours. I will stop messaging once you help me or advice me in "How to restore a deleted page" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roon100 (talk • contribs) 05:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Oops
It appears that the now blocked Roon100 posted the replies I made to him on both my page and for some reason your page. I have no idea why. I apologize for inadvertently dragging you into our conversation, as that was not my intention, and I hope that the dual postings didn't inconvenience you too much. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll Look into it. I'm new to this though, so it may take a little a while (like 15-20 mins) to get caught up enough to move on the issue though. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I've blocked him for 6-months on copyright violation grounds - in just the brief time I've looked I've confirmed two copy/paste executions and there are several other suspicious edits to his version of the page. I'm gonna report this and see what the copyright cleanup brigade has to say, and we can move from there. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:29, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Speech
Where do I find a transcript of the speech with the misleading label "civility" now (that the place I knew is a red link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Never mind, found it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Reason Magazine contest winner 2010 May 20.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Reason Magazine contest winner 2010 May 20.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 01:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see the JPG was replaced by SVG at File:Reason Magazine contest winner 2010 May 20.svg. No worries, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:04, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Echo and archiving
FYI, your archiving results in Echo notifications. See User talk:Equazcion/OneClickArchiver. I just received a notification that I was mentioned in Special:PermanentLink/636403008. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:53, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay I've commented there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:15, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Today's Featured Article: Notification
This is to inform you that  Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties, which you nominated at WP:FAC,  will appear on the Wikipedia Main Page  as  Today's Featured Article on 15 December 2014. The proposed main page blurb is here; you may amend if necessary. Please check for dead links and other possible faults before the appearance date. Brianboulton (talk) 21:46, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, your services related to WP:TFA and WP:FA are most appreciated! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Three Hotties
Funny—the nomination got no supports, but it's still being scheduled for 29 December. Guess there was nothing to worry about. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:17, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Please review Hitachi Magic Wand
As part of a Quality improvement project, I've recently put the article Hitachi Magic Wand up for Peer Review.

Participation would be appreciated, at Peer review/Hitachi Magic Wand/archive1. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 06:20, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Irreplaceable
Hi Cirt, I'm surprised, really. Thanks for nominating the article. It's on the Main Page! =) --Efe (talk) 13:10, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!
The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * I see some strong candidates there, I'll defer to others for the nominations process and hopefully remember to check back in for the voting period. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Re: Thanks much
Glad you appreciated it. I made a list of people that would take part of the Comic Con Experience event and whose Wikipedia articles lacked images and then took the opportunity to photograph them. I missed some unfortunately, but still managed to add pictures to a handful of pages. Cheers, Victão Lopes Fala! 00:41, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Please support my proposal in Wikipedia talk:Community portal
Currently the portal's section "help out" lacks "Create these articles", "Represent a worldwide view" and "Add historical information", which is odd since there are still plenty of notable uncreated articles, e.g. smokers' rights and Joseph Charles Aub, plenty of articles with geographic imbalances and plenty of articles lacking sufficient historical information, and the issues are no less serious than the fact that there are still many articles requiring update. So please go to that page and support my proposal to add "Create these articles", "Represent a worldwide view" and "Add historical information" to the section "help out".--RekishiEJ (talk) 04:03, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Commented there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia genealogy project
Just wondering if you have any thoughts re: the idea of WMF hosting a genealogy project. If so, feel free to contribute to this discussion. And apologies if I have made this request before. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:56, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting,, but unfortunately too swamped and don't have time right now. Good luck! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bucko
Mike V •  Talk  19:30, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, most appreciated. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

A few to review
I will review these candidates for GA, from topic Good_article_nominations/Topic_lists/Music. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:56, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Wings (Bonnie Tyler album)
 * 2) Orelsan et Gringe sont les Casseurs Flowters
 * 3) Ones (Selena album)
 * Quite busy with things IRL, will get to these soon one-by-one in a few days. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Most apologies, major things have come up in my life, haven't had the time to get to these, sorry! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Mary Wollstonecraft Award

 * Wow,, thank you so much! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:52, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Voting for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year now open!
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay,, I'll check it out. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Protecting liberties
Thank you for protecting our first amendment liberties, today and every day,  precious  again! - I have a FAC open, DYK. And problems with guidelines which seem to be applied too strictly: naming a composition not as the composer named it because of house rules, and degrading a composer to a secondary topic because of a singer who took (isn't that a polite word, compared to others that come to my mind) his name. (Who is served by this? ). As if the liberty of IAR didn't exist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your kind words about my Quality improvement efforts to improve in quality articles on Wikipedia related to freedom of speech and censorship. Thank you,, I really appreciate it. A lot. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Witam wszystkich
Witam :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.191.14.14 (talk) 23:25, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Cirt,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:The Impact of Wikipedia Adrianne Wadewitz.webm is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on January 6, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-01-06. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:44, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Arnold Markowitz


The article Arnold Markowitz has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No secondary sources provided to establish this person's notability. He seems to be still living and the material provided is somewhat controversial, so could be issue with WP:BLP

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Borock (talk) 20:25, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Merry Merry
To you and yours FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 15:40, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
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 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Yuletide greetings

 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Old article for deletion
Dear Cirt,

I am fairly inexperienced in making contributions to Wikipedia. I was looking at the edit history of this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Ashe) and noticed that when the page was created it was for a different person but now it refers to a professor at University of Minnesota. I am wondering if that is an accepted policy on Wikipedia?

Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heimdallrorschach (talk • contribs) 21:44, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Will take a look soon. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've asked users at WP:BLPN to look into this, I'll respectfully defer to the outcome, there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for From The Doctor to my son Thomas
 Harrias  <sup style="color:#009900;">talk 00:01, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

She Has a Name
Hi Cirt,

Congratulations on successfully getting Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties up on the main page. I know it must have taken a lot to deal with all the opposition. I have renominated She Has a Name for its third featured article candidacy. Might you have time to contribute? I have greatly appreciated your comments in the previous FACs.

Neelix (talk) 18:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Quite busy in life, will try to take a look. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

George Jackson (conductor)
I was wandering why this article hasn't been deleted yet. It smells like a piece of self promotion and self-exaggeration of minor musical achievements. Happy New Year!--Karljoos (talk) 00:42, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've posted to WP:BLPN to ask for help with this one. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year

 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Cirt!
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Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.
 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Have a bacon-filled new year!
As a member of WikiProject Bacon, I'm wishing you a very happy New Year's Eve and a great 2015! May your new year be filled with positive experiences, great wiki contributions, and of course, well-smoked thin-cut bacon. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 01:26, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Cirt!
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 * Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
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 * Thank you! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

FAC in need of comments
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Your GA nomination of Fuck It, We'll Do It Live
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Fuck It, We'll Do It Live you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 15:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello!
G'day, sir. :-) How are you doing these days? Any interesting going-ons? Nice to see old friends still active. I dug myself out of a WikiGrave and am possibly looking to get myself (lightly) involved again. For starters, seems like noone made a replacement for my Wikinews bot ever since Toolserver went down. &mdash;Миша 13 18:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fuck It, We'll Do It Live
The article Fuck It, We'll Do It Live you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Fuck It, We'll Do It Live for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 16:01, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Crocodile Rock in Allentown
Hey Cirt, it's Hunter Kahn. I'm not sure if you remember me because I've been inactive for a while, but we've worked together on a few articles in the past, including some on South Park episodes. I happened to see that you've nominated Fuck It, We'll Do It Live for GA, and that that album is based on a performance at Crocodile Rock in Allentown. I actually live fairly close to there and could probably take a picture of the outside Crocodile Rock for you sometime, if that would help your article. Let me know if that interests you! —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  16:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not essential to have a picture of the Crocodile Rock, but it would be very helpful and welcome anyway. I'm hoping Cirt will come back from his break as there's not much required to do to pass the review. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes,, that would be helpful and most appreciated. , I've been quite busy and also traveling but will try to address the GA Review soon within the next couple days. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 14:02, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I will probably have the opportunity to take the picture Monday. :) —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  16:10, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've gone through and done my best to address the GA Review and noted as such in the edit summaries., any luck with that photo? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:55, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't able to make it to Allentown today due to bad weather, but I'll definitely be there tomorrow and can take the picture then. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  03:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the image and added it to the article. Feel free to change the caption or the location of the pic or whatever you like. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  15:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi
Hey, chill please? Edit warring with Bencher is not really accomplishing anything. All the same people have FA, FAC, FAR, TFA, etc. watched anyway so one of those places was probably sufficient. As an aside, we're dealing with a huge sock farm that was created to harass Neelix. He posted part of an SPI but it got closed. If you look at the guy who filed that AfD and follow it out from there, there are at least 15–20 accounts. I don't have time to deal with it right now. -- Laser brain  (talk)  00:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, I agree that it is time for all parties involved to chill, please, as you say. Therefore, as noted, above, I'm taking some time off to exercise and get some fresh air. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Time for an exercise break
Time for a break for some exercise and perhaps stretching.

Oh and maybe some fresh air to take in the sweet sounds of nature. :)

Cheers,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:16, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Fuck It, We'll Do It Live
The article Fuck It, We'll Do It Live you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Fuck It, We'll Do It Live for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 12:01, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for doing the GA Review! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

dat bot
Sorry about that! I'm still testing it. Do you think it would be a useful feature to have the bot check the history of the user talk page in case the notice gets archived between runs, as just happened? APerson (talk!) 06:49, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes please,, to avoid duplicate notifications, thank you! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:15, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Greetings
Hi, Cirt - I hope you will consider stopping accusing me of bad faith editing. If you have any qualms with particular edits, I'd love to hear what is wrong with them and how my approach can be improved.

I'd like to direct your attention to two quotes on user pages. The first is from Jimmy Wales:


 * == You can edit this page! ==


 * Really, you can! If you would like to, please feel free to do so. Make an edit – or even several! After all, that is what Wikipedia is all about.''

And the second is from Neelix's user page:


 * Wikipedia is thoroughly, inherently collaborative. In the humanities division of academia, we still hold to the ideal of the lone genius, expecting that each humanities scholar be the sole author of his or her journal articles. In the sciences and social sciences, we expect that there be two or three authors for each journal article. On Wikipedia, every well-developed article has many more than three authors. The result is an ever-increasingly accurate approximation of objectivity. This objectivity is not the pseudo-objectivity that results from ignoring our biases as authors, but is rather the result of diverse perspectives all being covered proportionally through discussion between people who have those diverse perspectives. We write better when we write together.

I think those principles are pretty neat. And I am certain my editing adheres to them. If you'd like to contact me off the site, let me know - I'd be happy to share ways to get in touch.

John Bailey Owen (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * , unfortunately there are serious concerns about WP:Meatpuppetry and what seems to have been a campaign which resulted in driving Featured Article writer, editor, off this website Wikipedia. That is most unfortunate. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Dispute notice
Hi, Cirt. I've started a discussion on the dispute resolution noticeboard about this morning's activity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard John Bailey Owen (talk) 18:47, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That is redundant as a duplicate entry to the WP:Meatpuppetry case already being discussed at ANI, that unfortunately resulted in wikihounding off this website. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

To do
Look over some WP:GA stuff. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 06:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Taking a break
Taking a break from Wikipedia for some time with good friends and company, and perhaps a bit of exercise and fresh air. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:18, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Watch out for Joe jobs
Let's say I hate editor Y. I wait for somebody (X) to get into a dispute with Y, and then I start tag teaming with X with a bunch of IPs and socks. Does that make X guilty? Not at all. I think a dynamic like this was going on with Neelix and some unidentified troll(s). One or two good faith editors (X) may have gotten mixed up unintentionally. Jehochman Talk 03:32, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, along with the advice you gave to the user, I'm good with that. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take it to AfD ...
... but that just highlights what's broken about the PROD process -- that anyone can remove a prod for as specious a reason (or none whatsoever) as they wish. I'm surprised an editor with your experience would remove a prod with a "seems legitimate" rationale: since when does "It exists" constitutes a ground to keep an article?   Ravenswing   13:17, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

update on Sockpuppet investigations/Johnnydowns
Hi there. Would you be willing to update your latest note make on 18 January 2015 about this case? Right after your update, Johnnydowns was unblocked. See User_talk:Johnnydowns. Thanks, EChastain (talk) 15:09, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:05, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

FAR notification for 2012 tour of She Has a Name
I have nominated 2012 tour of She Has a Name for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 22:04, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification, commented there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Dancedom
I've no doubt someone will get to this before I do, but this user appears to be adding sourced information, and nobody has talked to them on the talk pages, theirs or otherwise, to explain if rotten tomatoes isn't a valid reference. Would it be better to engage them in dialogue as nobody appears to have done it, or have I missed something? (I can see people ignoring random warnings with zero explanation if they're feeling especially righteous) PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Time for some reading
and then to review a few, perhaps. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Murder of Kylie Maybury
Hi could please give Murder of Kylie Maybury some work or a once-over in editing? Paul Austin (talk) 01:17, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Possible AE matter
Given Cwobeel's attitude and disregard for WP:BLP, I wonder if these three edits to restore the Adam Sandler, Susan Sarandon and Nicolas Cage lists would be enough to show the user is not fit to edit BLPs. It is completely unacceptable to reference IMDb and the user was alerted to the sanctions already, but still saw fit to challenge it even after the BLPN discussion. The three diffs,, follow a discretionary sanction and warning for battleground behavior on BLPs. Your call, I already have him at ArbCom for something more complex and minor. This should be pretty clear cut in comparison. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Break time to enjoy good company
Time for a break to enjoy good company and good food with friends. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:55, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Advice from Kww
WP:BURDEN may be a policy, but WP:POINT is as well. Don't do a lot of these, and when you do do them, do it one section at a time so that individual sections can be easily restored when citations are found.&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay,, sounds good. Agreed. ✅. Consider it stopped for a while. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * My thanks to for this comment and to  for this comment. Much appreciated. Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Additional comment: I was most certainly NOT trying to make any "point" and I was NOT trying to violate WP:POINT. I sincerely believe that these claimed "awards" are indeed contentious and controversial info, and should be cited, ideally to secondary sources. I don't think Wikipedia should allow any blatantly unsourced info, positive or negative, about BLPs. It wasn't my intent to violate WP:POINT, rather just remove unsourced info about BLPs. If Wikipedia allows unsourced info to remain for years in BLP pages, positive or negative in nature, it has the tendency to lead to problems such as the Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident. ALL information in BLP pages should be cited, and if removed, NOT added back without cites. I actually do believe that the act of blindly adding back such unsourced material is WP:POINTy, but removal of unsourced BLPs should not be seen as such. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:03, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Enforcement Notice
I have mentioned you by name in an Arbitration request: Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification,, but I'd rather not be involved, and instead I'll just respectfully defer to community processes there and to the reviewing people. Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Time for rest and relaxation
Time for rest and relaxation, probably involving some fun mindless television shows. :P &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Jean-Pierre Jougla for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jean-Pierre Jougla is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Jean-Pierre Jougla until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tgeairn (talk) 04:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello again! The usual notice. Apologies for the noise.  By the way, I finished the book - definitely worthy of recommendation.  Thanks for it. Cheers! Tgeairn (talk) 04:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification. The last time I've edited the above-linked article was over seven (7) years ago. I'll take no action here, and respectfully defer to standard community processes, instead. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:10, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Kudos

 * Thanks very much,, this is most appreciated! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:51, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Taking a break
Taking a break for some good company with good people, possibly also a good book or two. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Michael Snow (attorney)
Hi I was wondering if I could get you opinion for the AfD in question I remain neutral for now. <font color="DarkSlateGray">Valoem  talk  <font color="Green">contrib  09:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, but I'll instead choose to respectfully defer to the consensus from the community. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:05, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Fuck It, We'll Do It Live
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, much appreciated, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:25, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

SNL
Hi there, Cirt! During your peer review of Saturday Night Live, you mentioned that it would be best to do away with Controversies entirely and merge it into the History section. Well I took another route and split the entire section into its own article, Saturday Night Live incidents, while expanding on content and sources. Was wondering if this all seems to be fine. Thanks again! StewdioMACK (talk) 15:29, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, but it should still be summarized in a more brief fashion than that entire article, in the parent article in chronological order, in my opinion. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:24, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Think of the children edits
Corrections incorporated. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 18:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Think of the children as meme
BTW, there's no question "Think of the children" is a meme (which include catch-phrases according to its Wikipedia page). I was surprised not to find a ready example of it regarded as such in citable form after you flagged it. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 21:19, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied at user's talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:21, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Mr. Terse
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you the Mr. (or Mrs.) Terse at the Think about the children page? While we were hammering out a compromise on the Simpsons thing I surveyed the page to see how tightly whomever was holding it to short sentences was doing. It had more short and fewer long than any page I can recall reading at Wikipedia (where all too often, even in feature articles, one can find them approaching the Magna Carta in length). Oh, please leave the discussion here: I'll know where to find it. Thanks. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 21:40, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied at user's talk page, would prefer to keep further discussions about the article, at the article's talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:21, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Richard L. Dowhower for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Richard L. Dowhower is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Richard L. Dowhower until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tgeairn (talk) 00:58, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The usual notification. I understand that you have not edited the article in question since 2007.  Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 00:59, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification,, and that's correct, I've made zero edits to that page for over eight (8) years. I'll respectfully defer to community consensus from the standard processes here. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I was just about to give you the same barnstar. lol —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  13:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, and, much appreciated! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 18:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome
Thank you for the welcome but I am not a happy contributor. My edit was summarily reverted by MaterialScientist without comment. I have further explained the reason for my edit (a basic, fundamental point of electromagnetic theory) on his talk page but have had no response. I do not want to get into a editing war with a Lord of Wikipedia who somehow makes hundreds of edits a day. I have always been a user, proponent, and financial supporter of Wikipedia but this situation has totally reversed my position. I have found that the veracity of the content is seriously compromised by the activities of dictatorial personalities (with questionable credentials) who use their knowledge of the intricacies and tricks of Wikipedia to satisfy some sick personal agenda.TheOldME (talk) 18:11, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, sorry you feel that way. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Sheep On Drugs
If you liked Fuck It, We'll Do It Live and Fuck (film), you may appreciate Sheep On Drugs and their 2005 album, Fuck. Just sayin'. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:30, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you, I'll take a look. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, but it looks like they spell their album name F**k, and not Fuck. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Even so, might be cause to make Fuck (album) a disambiguation page. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:21, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe if there were already other exiting wiki articles with that title, shrug. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposed quote:

 * Never underestimate the power of inertia on Wikipedia

Attribute as needed <g> Collect (talk) 21:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

A Not too long; read Barnstar for you
I'm mighty green at this, but I know you'll get the intention:
 * Thanks very much,, much appreciated! &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:53, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I'm always thinking of the children. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 21:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because if you don't, then the terrorists have won. :P &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:04, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Good one! Never saw it coming. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 12:47, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote
Hi Cirt. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but (as you also know :) ) I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (76th now!), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:00, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay,, thanks for thinking of my opinion, I'll take a look. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:00, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:04, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Edward Lottick


The article Edward Lottick has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Per WP:BLP1E. Lottick's son's death is the event that notability is hinged upon.  No prior or post coverage to establish depth or notability.

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 * Courtesy notification. I acknowledge that it has been nearly 8 years since you have edited the article.  Cheers!  --Tgeairn (talk) 03:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for this notification of a proposed deletion. You are correct, , the last time I edited that article was back in 2007. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:37, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Arthur A. Dole


The article Arthur A. Dole has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable academic, does not meet WP:ACADEMIC. He wrote a number of articles, mainly for ICSA/AFF, which he is a member of.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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 * And another. One of those busy weeks.  You have not edited the article since 2007.  Cheers! Tgeairn (talk) 23:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Funny though, he may be notable as a war resister and peace activist - removed the PROD after finding he has a whole nother life. Collect (talk) 23:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied at 's talk page. Thanks for the find! --Tgeairn (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and, haven't edited that page in seven (7) years. Will respectfully defer to others in the community regarding attempted deletion processes. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

"Erin Ade" page
Hi, you deleted a page regarding "Erin Ade" in July 2011 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erin_Ade&action=edit&redlink=1). I saw on the Deletion discussion page that 1) the article was poorly referenced and 2) she was not considered to have significant claim to notability. I think, now, she is quite a respectable journalist with her own financial program "Boom Bust" at RT. I want to create her Bio page. How should i proceed? Thanx.Sohebbasharat (talk) 23:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied at user's talk page. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review for Erin Ade
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Erin Ade. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Sohebbasharat (talk) 02:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification,, I'll respectfully defer to the community consensus from that process. Good luck, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:05, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Mauna Loa

 * You open to collaboration? Maybe we could take Mauna Loa to FAR. It's something I've been sitting on for a long time now and also something on Ceranthor's bucket list. Geology and eruptive history are redone, human history, ecology, observatories, and tourism need to be written. See this.
 * I honestly doubt it will ever go through another Featured article campaign again alone, I think it's just way too much tedious bullshit to deal with to make it worth the effort anymore. I came here to write articles, not format citations...though I don't seem to be doing much of either, lately. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 20:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the idea,, but these days I don't have as much time and I'm usually focusing on topics generally related to freedom of speech and censorship, and/or past quality improvement projects I've taken to WP:GA. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:45, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Very well, very well, far be it that I determine where your interests are. I do wonder though if something can't be done to bring more editors together on co-operative "article improvement drives" as you say. Hmm. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 20:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your interest,, I encourage you to join both WP:WikiProject Freedom of speech and WP:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement. Also, if you like I could update you on some of my ongoing quality improvement projects. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * In the latter case I don't think such projects are useful unless they achieve a critical cohesive social mass in the community that makes them sustainable&mdash;otherwise blink and they're gone. I think the organization of collaboratives would require something more along the lines of forum shopping. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 20:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, I respect your opinion, but encourage you to think about the above. If we could find a project of mutual interest it'd be fun to collaborate on quality improvement together. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll definitely think about it. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b style="color:#333333; font-size:small;">Res</b> Mar 21:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Cults in our midst 2003.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Cults in our midst 2003.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 22:42, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I haven't edited that image page for seven (7) years, and will defer here to standard community processes. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Leonard Nimoy talk
Hi Cirt.

I slightly edited your post of that video, mainly so it was "above". See. Just checking, in case you hadn't noticed. 220  of  Borg 06:38, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sandy Andron


The article Sandy Andron has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * I couldn't establish that Andron meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG

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 * Thank you for the notification. I haven't edited that page in over seven (7) years, and I'll take no action here, instead deferring to standard community processes. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Reference to "no worries"
Here tis

Northrup49 (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Category:Streisand effect
Category:Streisand effect, which you created, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:13, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:53, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Shitburger
Greetings! I'm looking toward whether this article would pass a theoretical GAN, and has suggested that this sort of thing may be right up your alley. No puns are intended. &mdash; ATinySliver &#47; ATalkPage 19:12, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Maclean25 -- Maclean25 (talk) 19:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, most appreciated. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel
The article No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Maclean25 -- Maclean25 (talk) 20:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Clickbait or valid article?
What do you think? Is this clickbait or a valid topic for an article? "The 'sex selfie stick' lets you FaceTime the inside of a vagina" from The Independent. It's a vibrator with an attached camera called the Svakom Gaga. There seems to be a growing amount of coverage for it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:52, 17 March 2015 (UTC) edit: Kind of weird question, I know, but I figure you're probably the best authority on controversial sex-related articles – or, at least, the first name that pops into my head! NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Certainly seems like it's got plenty of coverage at . I'd suggest you peruse some of those sources, but unfortunately I myself don't have the time right now for this one among other Quality improvement projects. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:56, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Peer review/Enthiran/archive2
I have opened the 2nd PR as the article's first FAC was withdrawn recently due to prose issues. Feel free to leave comments. — Ssven2  Speak 2 me '' 14:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks interesting but sorry too busy at the moment. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Employment Law Alliance - Ellen Pao
Hi Cirt,

I checked in the history of your talk-page and found out you were involved in some way with Employment Law Alliance an article I am trying to improve since it is part of a suite  of articles that is important to understanding the issues raised in Ellen Pao gender discrimination lawsuit. I wonder if you can help? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, but too busy at the moment, good luck to you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:19, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

File:1999 August Ironman magazine cover.jpg listed for deletion
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 * Commented there. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:18, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

new essay
The ArbCom case against me is vexatious indeed - I shall not contend against those who taste blood. The main complaint even includes my essays - so I wrote one which I hope you will appreciate WP:Wikipedia and shipwrights. It would be fun to see how others react, indeed. Warm regards, Collect (talk) 04:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Most fascinating,, thanks for letting me know. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:18, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Tiens Biotech Group


A tag has been placed on Tiens Biotech Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Slashme (talk) 19:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Instead of speedying it, I'll try and despam the article instead. There's some good copy at dewiki. --Slashme (talk) 19:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, I'll defer to your judgment on this, . Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

GAR for Bali Nine
Bali Nine, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. sentausa (talk) 07:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't have time right now, but thanks for the notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:20, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Mind Meld
Hi Cirt,

Thank you for all the hard work you did in cleaning up vandalism while I was away from Wikipedia. I have returned to editing and have started a new FAC, this time for the Mind Meld article. If you would be willing to participate in the discussion here, your comments would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 23:48, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Quite busy lately, but I'll try to take a look. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

loved your gutting article
WP:GUTTING Love it. Wafflesmatter (talk) 20:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Haven't had time to devote to work on improving it more. Probably will try to do that in a few weeks. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

You're invited to join WikiProject United States Constitution!
We have lots of work to do! <font face="Arial"> CookieMonster755  (talk)   00:52, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

GAR
Ocean's Three and a Half, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

George Jackson (Conductor)
I very much doubt of the notability of this young conductor. There was a discussion and the result was DELETE, however the article has not been deleted. I was wandering who should I contact so the deletion is "enforced". Thank you.--Karljoos (talk) 18:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

File:2003 October Playboy cover Czech Republic edition.jpg listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:2003 October Playboy cover Czech Republic edition.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

OTRS?
Hi Cirt! I see you may have already started your summer hitaus! but I would like to post here anyway before I forget. I wonder if you would consider re-applying for OTRS work, as I know they are really short-handed and are looking for good people. You don't have to be an admin to serve on the OTRS team. Something to thing about. Best, -- Diannaa (talk) 02:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Recent Article
Hello, I'm here to respond to your previous message.

I decided to change it since it says that Ernest Ka'ai lived from 1881-1961, yet it says that he died in Miami in 1962. So either one of those things needs to be edited in order to agree with the other one. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.87.169 (talk) 23:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured articles that haven't been on the Main Page?
Hi there, I'm obviously a bit new to Wikipedia, having created an account two months ago. Anyway, I wanna ask two questions. So, as you can see in the headline, it relates to Featured articles that haven't been on the Main Page. So, I found out that The Tower House, Secret of Mana and Gary Cooper are on the page even though they were featured. I edited the page to take them out, but the bot reverted my edit. So, question number one, will the articles that were featured this month be edited out when June starts? And question number two, is the bot the only "user" that should edit the page? I hope you will reply soon. TVShowFan122 (talk) 11:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

new page
Hi, I'm contributing to a new page. I'm not sure what the content of the previous page was. I'm planning to add some verifiable references. Let me know if you see problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.221.225 (talk) 19:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

"Wikipedia - ain't nobody got time to read a whole book!"
For some laughs. :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 10:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Upcoming Featured quality improvement projects
Note to self:

Research upcoming Featured quality improvement projects.

Perhaps some additional consultation with about copy editing and/or to see if a few articles are ready or what other quality improvement steps could be taken further.

( previously was quite helpful with copy editing on WP:FAs: Fuck (film), Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties, and WP:GA: "R U Professional".)

Not sure if I've got enough personal time in my life right now to bring something all the way up to Featured quality, but worth looking into possible projects.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:54, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: has kindly agreed to take another look at "R U Professional", and advise me as to what's the next appropriate step for it to further along the Quality improvement process. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:33, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello from the team at Featured article review!


We are preparing to take a closer look at Featured articles promoted in 2004–2010 that may need a review. We started with a script-compiled list of older FAs that have not had a recent formal review. The next step is to prune the list by removing articles that are still actively maintained, up-to-date, and believed to meet current standards. We know that many of you personally maintain articles that you nominated, so we'd appreciate your help in winnowing the list where appropriate.

Please take a look at the sandbox list, check over the FAs listed by your name, and indicate on the sandbox talk page your assessment of their current status. Likewise, if you have taken on the maintenance of any listed FAs that were originally nominated by a departed editor, please indicate their status. BLPs should be given especially careful consideration.

Thanks for your help! Sandy Georgia (Talk) 18:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Please respond at Wikipedia talk:Unreviewed featured articles/sandbox; thanks! Sandy Georgia (Talk) 18:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)