User talk:Rich Farmbrough/Archive/2015 July

Samantha Smith
(also asking others who could help)

Can you take a look at Samantha Smith? It's a featured article but a fresh pair of eyes is always good. I'm concerned that with the 30th anniversary of her death in August, there'll be increased articles in the press and we'll have "Saint Samantha" vs "Soviet stooge" edit wars. Paul Austin (talk) 12:00, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * FWIW I have added the article to my watch-list. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:37, 1 July 2015 (UTC).

Your quotes of the day
Hi, Rich. One of your quotes of the day is "Editors are allowed to make many mistakes, administrators relatively few, checkusers and arbitrators almost none, and that is as it should be." (Rich Farmbrough) Since it's by you, and thereby you don't have to hold the wording sacrosanct, have you thought of souping it up with the addition "checkusers and arbitrators almost none, the Founder again many"? I realize you'd run into trouble with the "that is as it should be" bit… yeah. Never mind, then. Bishonen &#124; talk 19:14, 30 June 2015 (UTC).
 * We all have our takes on Mr. Jimbo, and I have remonstrated with him more than once. But, though I won't change the quote, I do think he has a license to screw up on-wiki a little.  He is not heavily involved with the project in a hands-on way, and yet people expect him to make pronouncements and "take action" on whatever their particular issue is.  Inevitably if these were simple issues the community would have fixed them already.  The best we can do is hope that all our future mistakes are small ones, with no lasting ill effect.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC).


 * That is a perceptive comment, Rich, and I thank you for it. All the best to you. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * You can these if you wish. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC).

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Very Strong Support
Hello Rich,

I voted for you - Very Strong Support! You will be an outstanding Administrator. Very respectfully,  Tiyang (talk) 17:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Every vote is much appreciated.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I too !voted support. Whatever the outcome of the RfA I hope that it will not diminish your enthusiasm for the project. Many can't see past your past difficulties, but I can't see them affecting your trustworthiness with admin tools, hence my !vote.  --Jules (Mrjulesd) 13:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I can assure you I am encouraged by not just the support !votes, but by the supportive things both neutral and oppose voters have said. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I am personally glad to see the trend is going from oppose / neutral to support. Hopefully, the balance will tip enough into the "bureaucrat's discretion" range and you'll get your tools back. Good luck! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you.


 * According to the tool I would need another 20/21 [30!] supports without any opposes to get into the usual "discretion" area. I am not holding my breath.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I share the same sentiments as Ritchie333. I truly hope that this Rfa will be treated differently in that a separate committee can deliberate fairly based on the facts and merits of the nomination for a fully informed decision, i.e. "a net positive". Very best wishes and good luck! Audit Guy (talk) 13:06, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * What I think is wrong with RfA is that you can get twice as many support votes as oppose and yet still garner only 67% of the vote, below the 70% suggested. But hopefully bureaucrat discretion will come into play which something approaching that sort of result.  --Jules (Mrjulesd) 15:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * What's significant is that people who were opposing (eg: Laser Brain) have changed their mind and switched to support. There have been quite a few of those, and I think a few more of that will tip the balance. At least now I would expect a close as "no consensus", definitely not a fail. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:42, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There are also some "not yet"s, at a guess about 10 "not yet"s would put it in the usual discretion zone, whether would then count as as a "not yet" close I cannot say. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:54, 4 July 2015 (UTC).

Incomplete DYK nomination
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 * Thank you bot. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:55, 4 July 2015 (UTC).


 * The bot gave it to many in error today ;) - I wondered if I should campaign for your RfA but it's to hot, - the next one will succeed, if not this one. I asked several people how to phrase "victim of an institution" more politely, - there is even . I remember your support on top of my talk, - thank you, lone supporter ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think if you campaign you automatically loose.... Helpful Pixie Bot was awarded a Purple Star, by User:Emmette Hernandez Coleman.  Note that it's role in world peace means that it has both an Islamic and a Jewish barnstar.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I think you are right that if the candidate campaigns it's an automatic loss. As I am not the most respected woman, my support may also foster protest votes. The last one for whom I spoke collected not enough trust but took it with grace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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Talk Back
Sir, Talk Back @ Talk:Battle of Longewala MCIWS (talk) 15:28, 5 July 2015 (UTC) MCIWS (talk) 15:28, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, the level of support (including moral support among opposes and neutrals) was very heartening. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:46, 5 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Hi Rich, I would like to add that you fought the RfA battle well and I hope that it works out. Even if it doesn't, may I offer you my best wishes going forward! Audit Guy (talk) 01:53, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
No idea which way the RfA is going to go, but judging by the process so far, I'm guessing you need some kitten.

Stuartyeates (talk) 22:42, 5 July 2015 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>
 * Thank you! The process has been much better than I was lead to believe it might be.  Very few crossed the floor from "nice " to "nasty" and even they had their reasons, insufficient though they may have been. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:44, 5 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I will remember that phrasing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Samuel Judah
FYI I'm pretty sure he was born in 1798. That is what is listed for him at Ancestry, and it cites: American National Biography. 24 volumes. Edited by John A. Garraty and Mark C. Carnes. New York: Oxford University Press, 1999. (AmNatBi); Dictionary of American Biography. Volumes 1-20. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1928-1936. (DcAmB) The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography. Volume 24. New York: James T. White & Co., 1935. Use the Index to locate biographies. (NatCAB 24) Who Was Who in America. A component volume of Who's Who in American History. Historical Volume, 1607-1896. Revised Edition. Chicago: Marquis Who's Who, 1967. —Мандичка YO 😜 03:23, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Wikimandia I suspect there is confusion with Samuel Judah (b. 1799). However the source that gave two alternative dates is, on it's face, reliable, and the provision of day and month indicates that they were looking at conflicting sources.  IIRC Judah graduated in 1816 which would make 1798 more likely.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:41, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

See comment on Mr. Posen page.Mr. Posen (talk) 16:33, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

RfA close
Please bear with us. Some might say we effectively get elected for being cooperatively-minded, and hating drama and controversy, so forgive us if we live up to it. --Dweller (talk) 13:40, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and closed the RfA in light of your comments. Good luck if you decide to have any go in the future. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">WJBscribe (talk) 16:29, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * My thanks to all of you. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC).

fwiw
Stats show the latter half of the RfA had 81% support for you. Collect (talk) 18:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That is interesting. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:23, 6 July 2015 (UTC).

Hello Sir
Just to remind you, if you forget about the Talk:Battle of Longewala MCIWS (talk) 17:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC) MCIWS (talk) 17:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User above is the sock of Knightwarrior25. Zadon19 (talk) 17:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It is generally a better idea to find constructive ways of dealing with editing disputes.
 * I am currently interested in getting a good outcome for the article. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:46, 6 July 2015 (UTC).

Rich Sir, Facts are in front of you, Although I have explained you yesterday at @Talk Page. It is indeed necessary to edit the article as per as talk page. Regards MCIWS (talk) 18:11, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

I deleted his comments as is he is just attacking me personally from the start and other editors too, I have to revert his unconstructive edits on various articles and hence just because of him a case is been going on see [Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Zadon19_and_User:MCIWS_reported_by_User:Thomas.W_.28Result:_.29 this] Moreover he is a sock of any pro-pakistani account that was recently banned, he himself is a sock and attacking me personally while I've challenged him to prove on SPA that I have any sock MCIWS (talk) 18:17, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I choose to keep his comments on my talk page, because they make the conversation clear. If you disrupt my talk page, I will not be able to carry out a constructive conversation with you.
 * It is generally a better idea to find constructive ways of dealing with editing disputes.
 * I am currently interested in getting a good outcome for the article. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:24, 6 July 2015 (UTC).

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Speedy deletion nomination of Elias Neau
Hello Rich Farmbrough,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Elias Neau for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Fitnr 18:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Rescued - notable Huguenot, notable in US slave history, notable as person sentenced to life as a galley slave - all of which took two minutes to determine. Next time please do at least a  cursory search before labelling anything as "unencyclopedic."   Collect (talk) 19:08, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's really my fault, I posted the talk-page banner there in error, (and of course don't have delete powers!) before I could fix it Fitnr had tagged it. I guess if our paths had crossed he might have not done that, but just left me a note.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:11, 7 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I was just amused that anyone would think you needed to be directed to "info for noobs" <g>. Cheers. Collect (talk) 19:16, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of David Mintz for deletion
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User:COIBot/EditSummary
hi.

please look at special:Diff/670748306. the diff may look subtle, but if you look at the "before", you'll notice that the spam report somehow belongs to "Category:Computer architecture", which is of course bogus (i found this perversion when i looked for stuff in the category, and was surprised to find this spam report there).

the reason is that the report contains unchecked, and if the pagename happens to be "Category:XXX", the report belongs to this category.

the remedy is to test if parameter pagename begins with "Category:", and if it does, prepend it with colon.

since you are the last editor that touched this page, i'm asking that you will fix it - i'd rather not muck with something that complex, that is precluded in so many pages.

thanks, peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:00, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * . All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:41, 10 July 2015 (UTC).

A kitten for you!
Hi Rich - Sorry to see how the RFA went. I was impressed by your tact and clear-mindedness throughout the whole thing, which was, in part, the reason why I switched from oppose to support. Thank you for your continued contributions to this crazy place, and hopefully we will see you with the mop sometime in the future!

 Pax  Verbum  20:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * Thanks I might need one to control all these kittens! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Kittens don't take control anyway, don't worry ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the NC finding - did you really want to herd cats? GregJackP   Boomer!   01:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry it didn't work out for you. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:21, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

365 drama-free days today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:49, 10 July 2015 (UTC).

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Blocked account (not yours...)
Just letting you know that I've indeffed User:Richfarm with a spamublock. It's an Indian business, whose aim is "To deliver exceptional quality True Wellness organic foods and products", and very obviously nothing to do with you. I thought you might be interested, though... Peridon (talk) 08:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:56, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I wonder if that company uses automation in the production of its products. Sorry, couldn't resist :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:27, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well we've been using it since time immemorial, so I'm sure they do! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC).

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Frequently used words
Hi! I would be interested in getting such list for Latvian Wikipedia. We have much, much more smaller Wikipedia than this one (have 61tk articles, from which nearly half are marked as stubs), so it would be much more faster. Could you make it (when you have free time, of course)? -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 12:21, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * List here. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Thanks, that was fast :) Those results are quite interesting. If you missed it, there are problems with encoding -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 13:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, but not with decoding - in other words it's reading the dump correctly. I'm not sure if I introduced the encoding errors by using notepad to open the file, but I think they are there natively.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:29, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Lets take 18th result lietot. Next symbols should be ājs (or āja or something like that, I think). So symbols after the error are ignored (or interpreted as another word, for example - ctecis). I understand that you don't want to make extra efforts for this, because it's not your Wikipedia etc., but maybe this can be fixed? -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 13:38, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm yes I noticed that they are end-of-word (correctly or incorrectly). 80% of any programming these days seems to be dealing with Unicode!  I am using the posix regular expression to match letters, and I had to upgrade perl to get this to work (first time I've actually encountered a perl bug).  I've tried this with three encoding schemes "<:" "<:utf8" and "<:encoding(UTF8)", they all produce the same results. Opening the output with Open Office gives a slightly different result but not really an improvement.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:52, 10 July 2015 (UTC).

OK this is an obscure bug, probably related to the CPAN bz2 library, because if I run the program on the unzipped XML it gives good results like: So I can re-run for Latvian, and investigate updating the perl IO::Uncompress::Bunzip2 library. But it's annoying that the English one (3 days run time estimate) will have bugs, even if they don't show, and I can't tie that machine up for another three days. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC).
 * 1) piemēram 		 108
 * 2) futbola 		 90
 * 3) latviešu 		 84
 * 4) spēles 		 81

✅ All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * ✅. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * List tweaked slightly so that the order of words with the same count will remain constant between runs. This is important for regression testing as much as anything. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC).

A. Primcock
You appear to have redirected this page to itself, which looks like a mistake, so I thought I should let you know. Rubbish computer 14:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ✅ All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:33, 11 July 2015 (UTC).

No problem. Congratulations on getting 1,000,000 edits, I hope one day to do the same. Rubbish computer 14:34, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

HELP ME!!!!!
Please help me create my user page because I do not currently have one. Thank you!! TheTwilightSagaFanatic! TheTwilightSagaFanatic (talk) 04:23, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:45, 11 July 2015 (UTC).

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THANK YOU!!!
You are so much help!! Thank you for creating my page!! My favorite book in the Twilight series is the first book and the last book. Not really a Hunger Games fan,so I prefer the Divergent trilogy. I love those books! Anyway, thanks again!! Bye. TheTwilightSagaFanatic (talk) 04:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You can change the favourite book. And improve the page too. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC).

Could you help me?
I saw you help TheTwilightSagaFanatic create a user page and I was wondering if you could help me,too? Thanks!! Flashyypantts (talk) 04:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Since these are your only edits, perhaps it would be good practice to start editing by copying TheTwilightSagaFanatic's page and changing it to suit yourself. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:34, 12 July 2015 (UTC).

HELP!!!!?!
How do I copy TheTwilightSagaFanatics' page?Flashy pants (talk) 16:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just edit it copy the text then edit your own page and paste it there. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC).

Help!?!
How do I copy TheTwilightSagaFanatics' page? I am stuck on that. Flashyypantts (talk) 17:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just edit it copy the text then edit your own page and paste it there. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC).

Thank you.
Thank you for helping me create my page. Can you help me add some templates so my interests have pictures? Thanks Flashyypantts (talk) 17:28, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi!
Can you add some templates to my user page? I would like to have pictures in the interests spot,like the apple for the Twilight books, that would be good. If you could put a picture of the Chicago Navy Piers' Ferris wheel (like in the movie Divergent)where the Divergent stuff is it will be perfect!! TheTwilightSagaFanatic (talk) 17:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hunt around the categories. Or look at the examples I put on Flashypants' page, and make your own. If you use images check that they are not "Fair use" images WP:FUR or someone will come along and remove them.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC).

Your e-mail concerning your block of 25 March 2013
Hi, you wrote to me asking me to review your one-year block of 25 March 2013. I can't remember what that was all about, but the block has expired for more than a year now. The matter is therefore, I think, very much moot. If you think that the block needed review, the year during which it was active would have been ample time for that.  Sandstein  21:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your (non-)consideration. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC).


 * ... one-year block ... I can't remember what that was all about. Naturally; it is but an everyday occurrence. ;-) Alakzi (talk) 22:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks!!
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Hey Rich. Just going through some edit filters to trim back ones we might not need since we're hitting the cap. Are you tracking this filter or planning to use it for something? It seems pretty unwieldy for just log tracking. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 00:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have informed the BLP people of the log. It should be a very cheap filter too.  Maybe we should add tagging.  It seems to be a very accurate filter, and every time I look at the log there are things that need citation or reversion.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Tagging might be a good idea, but I wouldn't want to tag all the various small changes being made. I've upped the edit_delta requirement to 200 to see if that better filters for users adding substantial writing to the article. Sam Walton (talk) 00:30, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't add tags since I don't have access to create tag messages. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I'll keep an eye on the log and add one if it seems appropriate. Drop me a message if it seems like I've forgotten! Sam Walton (talk) 00:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, there's a few old abuse filters we could maybe disable, I mentioned one at the talk page. Also I will drop another note about filters that could be public.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC).

Speedy deletion nomination of Traffic police (disambiguation)


A tag has been placed on Traffic police (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either
 * disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
 * disambiguates no (zero) extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Widefox ; talk 02:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Widefox: I always appreciate a note before a speedy template is left, especially if a page has been around a long time.  It's much easier to see what's going on before the page is speedied.   In this case history has been lost, needlessly.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC).

I love you
I love you. You have saved me a lot of work. Thanks a lot! The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:01, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Welcome Quixotic Potato.  I will try to run an up-to-date list late today.  What is the smallest count to go to?  What is the maximum number of words on the list?  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:05, 7 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Thank you. Is 10,000 reasonable as a maximum number of words on the list? The list from 2010 contains 10k words and I deleted all words that were less than 6 characters long; there were about 6500 words left. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:21, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes that's fine. V1 of the software counted everything, but only puts out the first 10k.  A possible difficulty is if the vocabulary of Wikipedia has increased too much, I might get an out-of-memory error.  There are simple fixes for this of course, but let us see. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC).


 * I just noticed that you wrote an article about the Shetland Black! If I could kiss you I would. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 20:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

There was a bug in perl. So I upgraded. 7 years of upgrades in one go. At the third attempt to clear the old version out properly it all seems to work. Now All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Still Probably because I am using " "<:encoding(UTF8)" instead of "<:utf8", the former is safer the latter much faster, apparently.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:24, 8 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Thanks again. I hope this isn't inconvenient for you. You are saving me months of work. It will be interesting to see how the list has changed compared to the list that was made in 2010. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 13:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's no problem. There are 844,482,155 lines in dump, apparently, so it will take some time to run.  Surprisingly it is compute-bound.  If I was re-running it I would perhaps limit the time it runs for, since the statistics shouldn't change too much from 20% of the data to 100%.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Out of memory :( Will re-run with a 12 hour time limit. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Is it a good idea to do just the article namespace? I'm not sure if that is possible. I was in a similar situation, I downloaded the most recent dump (pages-articles.xml.bz2) and I used the AWB database scanner to search for Regexp Typos. According to the AWB database scanner that would take about 30.000 minutes (~21 days)! I am not sure what the bottleneck was; none of the cores were at 100% and there was plenty of RAM free, maybe I need to upgrade to an SSD. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I was running on pages-articles. And yes, namespace limitation is a good idea.  I attached the process to core 3, and, as I said, it was CPU bound, so for speed I could probably multi-task it somehow.  Seems faster working on the xml than the bz2, presumably bz2 uses an adaptive dictionary for compression/decompression, but I doubt it grows to 100s of Mb.  The data structure was a simple hash, if I used some smarter structure I could cut the data size a lot.  I could also cull if I assume that anything not in, say, the top 100k items after the first 10% will never make the top 10k.  The last possibility is to process the file in chunks and store results for each chunk, then add them together.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:31, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * We should probably form a team and conquer the planet; my evil and your genius are a perfect combo. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 20:37, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

For your amusement, here is an image of some heavy-weight data processing using 8 cores (on another machine, far far away and a long time ago): All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:43, 10 July 2015 (UTC).


 * That reminded me of a song by one of my favorite rappers . Have you ever heard nerdcore before? What kind of music do you like? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 20:37, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I like a lot of different types of data... I mean music. One of the London editors gave me a link to this.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Ah, cool, I love UK hiphop (although the mainstream braggadocio stuff is quite boring to me) but I also love jazz & classical music. The database scanner is finally finished (and it didn't take 21 days, I limited it to 30k results) so now I am preparsing the results with AWB. Your userpage gave me the inspiration to look for old excrement. I was able to find some that dated back to December 2011! update: March 2007 Why are vandals so obsessed with poop? I don't think Sigmund Freud was able to fully explain this. I am currently writing a script that can help me with the new most frequently used words list. When do you think the new list will be ready? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 04:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is a current list based on the first 21 million lines of the most recent dump. It should be good for your purposes, but not for statistical purposes as it's skewed  by the User:Ram-bot articles.  Note that it includes wiki-markup and urls, in short everything that occurs on a source page except named HTML entities (which are mostly, if not all, shorter than 6 letters).  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Awesome! Thanks a lot! It will take a very very long time to fix all the typos that I can find based on those 10.000 words. I will manually delete all the markup and urls. Is there something I can do to help you? The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. The markup and urls show in things like "Category" and "accessdate" being in the top few words.  If they are mis-spelled they too need to be fixed.  I noticed an unusual word "cathen" - we have an article on a place with this name, but the bulk of the uses are in a widely referenced biblical website's uuls.
 * And thanks for the offer I will bear it in mind. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:05, 14 July 2015 (UTC).

Nomination of Traffic police (disambiguation) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Traffic police (disambiguation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Traffic police (disambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Hi
Hi Rich, I'm getting the feeling you really want a dab page, and I agree there may be merit in something as the two dabs are intertwined and could be combined even. I just don't see it this minute, so I'd appreciate your input at the AfD, and the primary topic discussion. You may have inadvertently removed the AfD banner by accident. Widefox ; talk 11:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It is a complex situaiton. Am commenting there.  Whoops.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC).

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Speedy deletion nomination of Traffic police (disambiguation)


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that Traffic police (disambiguation), a page that you created, has been tagged for deletion. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It covers a topic on which we already have an article - Traffic police. (See section A10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Traffic police, or to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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 * Speedying a page when I have explicitly just asked for a prior note before speedy seems a little rude, to day the least. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:34, 15 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Hi Rich, only just saw your reply here. What was it you asked for? I even withdrew my speedy myself as soon as I saw your objection on the dab's talk. Widefox ; talk 08:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * In the majority of cases when someone wants to delete a page I created either I will G7 it myself or I can explain why it shouldn't be deleted.
 * For this reason XfD is often a waste of everyone's time.
 * With speedies however, there is always a good chance that the page will be deleted before the person notified sees the message. Even if they see it they may not have time to consider all the factors and compose a substantive comment before it goes.
 * For these reasons it's worth extending WP:Don't template the regulars to deletion.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Thanks for explaining. I've honestly not heard that before though, care to put it into an essay (if not already). Quick sniff around gives Don't template me, and WP:DTTR. If I've understood the timeline, the content is a duplicate from the history of the dabconcept? Widefox ; talk 12:27, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

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Bummer about your RfA and thank you for the cookies. I have actually been thinking about running that gauntlet myself, and have asked some people what they think, but I'm rather concerned that after nine years on-wiki, I've sometimes ben too candid and made a few too many enemies. I've also been told that my AfD stats aren't good enough, that I'm too snarky, and other things that seem to me to be kind of irrelevant, but apparently matter a lot to those who !vote at RfA. Yet I have also had numerous people say that I'm just the sort of person who should run. What are your thoughts? Should I consider throwing my hat in the ring? Montanabw <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 20:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Excellent advice; I'm happy to give you some more detailed feedback on my thoughts on your chances if you like, but just as a quick thought as I read Cyber's response; do whatever you want that keeps you sane through the process. I had the RSS feed for the page set up on my phone so I got buzzed every time someone posted but that's reflective of my behaviour on Wikipedia generally! Sam Walton (talk) 21:41, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the cookies. You were close. You should make it next time. I think the opposers were in good faith, but too stuck in the past and not looking at the big picture and what really relates to being a good administrator (such as a good record as an administrator which most candidates can't even have). Some of them even seem willing to support after a little more time. Donner60 (talk) 21:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, a lot of the oppose votes were morally supportive. That certainly made it a far more pleasant process than it would have been otherwise.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC).


 * It is certainly not the three ring circus that it used to be. Apart from the surprise at the initial 4 opposes with 0 supports, I was generally gratified with the response.  It had been suggested to me at the London Wikimania that it would be a very bad experience.
 * You should certainly consider standing.  Choose a time when you have some free time for answering questions, and maybe prepare answers to the standard questions.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC).

Disappearance of Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon
Hi I've created Disappearance of Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon and I'd like help in fleshing it out/keeping it as for South Australians, the Ratcliffe-Gordon disappearance is second only to the Beaumont children disappearance in such things. Paul Austin (talk) 15:54, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I added a further reading link which should be enough for notability, together with news coverage. If not there's more out there. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:15, 17 July 2015 (UTC).

Speedy deletion nomination of Gordon Stuart


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RfA
Probably only academic at this point but I wonder what the outcome might have been if all the trolls and socks had been officially discounted from the tally before the crats started their chat. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:17, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes I wondered. I think there were at least 2 socks opposing, but I won't say how many trolls.  I could have !voted for myself too I suppose.
 * Only one person rejected my note of thanks, that I am aware of. People by and large seemed as reasonable as could be expected without extensive research.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:22, 20 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Incidentally I am not that bothered about not "being an admin", it is merely a little irritating not to have the tools when I need them. For example I am working on a long term abuse issue, and can't block the socks myself.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC).


 * D'oh. Wished I'd seen it in time, would have voted for you. Free free to ping me in e-mail if you do another one. (For the record: Not a suggestion to canvass, I'm asking for a single personal notice because I don't watch RfA closely, and keep missing good candidates).  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  11:35, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC).


 * That is an interesting point, the canvassing rules: You can only allow the RfA regulars to !vote and can't let others know? I mean, seriously, call friends and enemies equally, whats the problem??   Montanabw <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  23:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Addition of Badminton as a Separate Wikipedia Article
Hello to you, Rich.

Thank you for making a Wikipedia article about competitive badminton for 2015. I have written to "myself" about the controversy the 2015 in sports article is making from some editors. Which competitive sports should get their own Wikipedia topics? For example, how about a "2015 in combat sports" article? Rockies77 (talk) 00:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I simply chose a sport that had a large section. It is 35k, which is quite a reasonable chunk. (We used to reckon 64k was about as big as articles should go!)  I would be inclined to pick out some of the other sports that have large sections.  Bear in mind that we are still in July! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC).

The News (Adelaide)
The name of the article in the namespace should be in dark italics for the part with the name of the newspaper, but it isn't. I'm not an admin so i can't fix it. Paul Austin (talk) 19:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes you can - do what I just did. But just italics (and even that we should check the WP:MoS) not bold please! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC).

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1st Indian Cavalry Brigade
Rich, you have just reverted me on 1st Indian Cavalry Brigade. Can you tell me why? Hamish59 (talk) 07:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes! My browser crashed giving me a largely black screen!  I was after the "Thanks" button.   All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:34, 23 July 2015 (UTC).


 * (Maybe we should have an "Apologies" button too... ) All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Thanks for that, Rich. Hamish59 (talk) 14:13, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Rich, given that there has been no objections on the talk page Talk:1st Indian Cavalry Brigade, are you able to move 1st Indian Cavalry Brigade to 1st (Risalpur) Cavalry Brigade? Hamish59 (talk) 07:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I can't, you will need to list it at WP:RM for an admin to move. Normally it would be an uncontested technical move, but this "relist" business might complicate matters. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Thanks for that, Rich. I did list it at WP:RM.  I have now figured out that the "relist" basically pushes it back a week.  No idea why, I will ask User:George Ho who did the relisting.  Hamish59 (talk) 14:49, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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