User talk:Rich Farmbrough/Archive/2013 October

David Iberri's template filler to Wikimedia Tool Labs
David Iberri's perl template filler tool is down, he asks "If some kind soul would like to install WWW::Wikipedia::TemplateFiller from CPAN on a more stable site, or if they have the time and experience to maintain something on the toolserver, I'd be forever grateful. In the meantime, I'll keep trying. --David Iberri (talk) 20:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)" I've wondered about Wikimedia Tool Labs but am not proficient with LAMP stacks, if they're available there. Are you permitted to help? Able to do so? Thanks for all your work. RDBrown (talk) 02:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * http://search.cpan.org/~diberri/
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Diberri/Template_filler#Current_source.2C_Aim_for_Wikimedia_Labs_rather_than_toolserver.3F
 * Boghog is going to try. Unsure if multiple people can collaborate easily on labs, but if so help may still be useful. Thanks. RDBrown (talk) 07:22, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #80
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 19:54, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * Discussion over the implementation of 'showcase items'
 * Requests for comment over restructuring user rights
 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * Lydia gives a talk at Latinoware about Wikidata
 * Talk at UCBerkeley about Wikidata
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * This week the 80 millionth edit was made to Wikidata
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: street address, e-mail, guest of honor, MusicBrainz label ID, burial plot reference, Austrian municipality key, streaming media URL, MycoBank taxon name identifier, IPNI taxon name identifier, Tropicos taxon name identifier, MSW species identifier, section, verse, or paragraph, ISBN-10, IBNR identifier, full text available at, ISCO code, NSZL identifier, BNE identifier, NLI (Israel) identifier
 * Newest task forces: International relations task force
 * Development
 * Further development on WikibaseDatabase
 * IE8 is working again
 * JSON socumentation created and merged
 * Lots of work carried out on the quantity datavalues
 * Papercut: mouseover input suggestions messes up input. Fixes bug 44896
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Update, expand and translate Wikidata:Introduction to make it easier for newcomers to understand what Wikidata is all about.
 * Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
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 * Hack on one of these.

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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter
Books and Bytes Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013 by , Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved... New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted. New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis?? New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration Read the full newsletter ''Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 21:45, 27 October 2013 (UTC)''

Rail
Hi Rich. I am intending on a more descriptive, less misleading classification for Britain's railways. Please give your thoughts as to how we can improve the current classification at the railways template where you have been a contributor. Adam37 (talk) 15:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry I missed this request at the time, but was unable to comment there anyway. Rich Farmbrough, 09:47, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Please check your SWWP talk page
Salaam. I have left a message on your SW-WIKI-TALK-PAGE! Please advise accordingly..--'''Mwanaharakati(Longa) 12:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, replied there at the time. Rich Farmbrough, 09:47, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Error
SS Empire Celia departed on the 30th December in convoy JW63. This is supported by the cite, though this several others need to be converted to archived versions. Anyone fixing this might also like to separate "SS" and "Empire" with a space in the first line of the article.

(In other news it's good to see that eventually Mr Cartman was ousted from Mr Pitt's dressing room! Well done Corvoe! I'd give you a barnstar were I allowed!)

Rich Farmbrough, 09:32, 30 October 2013 (UTC).


 * I've done the latter point (now struck), but don't understand the first point to action. --  Ohc  ¡digame!¿que pasa? 09:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The article says

"Between 23 and 26 December Empire Celia embarked a cargo including thirteen Spitfire LF Mk IX's.[14][15] She then sailed as a member of Convoy JW 63, which departed Loch Ewe on 20 December and arrived at the Kola Inlet on 8 January 1945.[16]"


 * Clearly the Spitfires could not be loaded after the departure of the ship! Since the two ports are about a week's sailing at 20 knots I suspected a typo for "30 December" - the source backs this up. Rich Farmbrough, 09:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC).


 * ✅ --  Ohc  ¡digame!¿que pasa? 10:06, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Request to take part in a survey
Hi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:49, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅Rich Farmbrough, 12:02, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Request for Review
Hello there

I am the contributor for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aditi_Technologies page.

I have cleaned up all the issues and have aligned the content to Wikipedia guidelines. Can you please review the page and help me to get away from the status message - "This article has multiple issues.

I am open for feedback.

Many Thanks Ashwin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashwinckm1983 (talk • contribs) 11:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I can't help at the moment. Rich Farmbrough, 12:02, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Proposed deletion of Shabeg Singh


The article Shabeg Singh has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Most of the article is a verbatim copy from http://www.sikh-history.com/sikhhist/personalities/military/shabeg.html. This is a biography of a notable person. However copyrighted material needs to come out.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Sumanch (talk) 23:26, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This article needs to be re-written. Rich Farmbrough, 12:02, 30 October 2013 (UTC).


 * OK this has been done (by reverting to a pre-vio versions), but work is still required. Rich Farmbrough, 12:05, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Marjan Jugovic

 * Marjan Jugovic should redirect to Marjan Jugović
 * Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Marjan Jugovic should be declined (permanently - nor sure of the protocol), since an article already exists, and the main contributor informed, and provided with link to the current article.

Many thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 20:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC).


 * If you want to appeal your block, I expect you know how to do so. This is an inappropriate use of your talk page while blocked. Huon (talk) 20:43, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Sadly I am not entitled to appeal this block.

It is however totally appropriate use of my talk page (unlike the block which is contrary to blocking policy, being clearly punitive).

"Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a blocked editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) unless they can show that the changes are either verifiable or productive..."

Thank you for making productive edits to improve the encyclopaedia. Rich Farmbrough, 03:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC).


 * I added a comment to the AfC draft to let the author know about the main-space article. — rybec   03:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Belated thanks Rybec. Rich Farmbrough, 12:08, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Oxford Meetup 9
Hi, I've created Meetup/Oxford/9 with no date, would October 13 or October 20 be most convenient for you? There's a discussion page at m:Talk:Meetup/Oxford/9 so that a date may be agreed. Please comment there. -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Rich Farmbrough, 12:09, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Nomination for deletion of Template:EngvarB
Template:EngvarB has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — Llywelyn II   06:50, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This was presumably closed, "Keep". Rich Farmbrough, 12:02, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 113.22.129.101
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Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 119.95.55.46
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Talk Archive
Hi Rich! I hope you are keeping well. With any luck, by the time your block expires ArbCom won't exist anymore. Anyway...

I saw this edit of yours. I thought of two things. One, you might consider doing a setup similar to the way I handle my talk page 'archives'. See the "old content" bar on the top of my talk page. I've personally never liked the idea of having a talk page archive of any kind, and have eschewed creating them. Some people criticized me for that in the past. So sad for them. This system has worked well for me. Two, if you'd like I'd be happy to create the necessary talk page archives for you and move appropriate content to them at your direction. I realize that makes me a proxy editor for you, but I can't see there being any objection to me doing so within your own talk space.

The software should allow a blocked editor to create and maintain subpages within their own userspace. We already have the ability to block someone such that they can not edit their own talk page. Perhaps that needs to be modified to not permit own userspace editing. This would mean that without that block we would allow editors to edit as much as they like in their own userspace.

Let me know if you'd like me to assist you with the latter suggestion. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

That's a kind offer. If Mr. Farmbrough would instead like a bot to do the archiving, I'd be happy to set that up—or if he'd like to be unsubscribed from any newsletter. &mdash; rybec   18:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks to you both, I may take you up on these offers. The first problem with my existing talk page/archive is that I moved the talk page to the early archives (which is not a bad idea for some reasons, but no longer suits the case).  A hist-merge back would be a great start to sorting the archiving issues, if any admin feels up to the task. Rich Farmbrough, 13:23, 30 October 2013 (UTC).

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for the barnstar! Yes, this happened some time last year I think.  If you like statistics, counting about 3 million bot edits, I was responsible for about 1% of the edits on the English Wikipedia.  It's nice to still be acknowledged from time to time, though I rarely sign in, due to the offensive messages the system spews at me when I do.  Rich Farmbrough, 09:32, 30 October 2013 (UTC).


 * I wasn't sure if you'd got there recently or not, but none the less this is admirable! How long did it take to work out what percent of edits you were responsible for? Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  16:11, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I would suspect that Rich took his own personal edit count, added in those of his bots, multiplied the total by 100 and divided that figure by the number of edits that have been made to Wikipedia; which at the time of the most recent edit to this page, stood at . -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Simples!. Mat  ty  .  007  19:08, 30 October 2013 (UTC)